J.J. Spaun’s U.S. Open Triumph, Devers Trade Shock, College World Series Drama & NBA Finals Preview

Craig Way and Cameron Parker discuss J.J. Spaun's dramatic victory at the U.S. Open and Sam Burns' fallout. They look ahead to tonight's Game 5 matchup in the NBA Finals between the Indiana Pacers and the Oklahoma City Thunder. Plus, updates of all the College World Series drama, including a no-hitter! 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Into a brand new week. We traversed. Good afternoon, everybody,
and welcome to the program here on sports Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone. My name is Craig, why I do.
Thank you very much for joining us, and us of
course includes the producer of the program, Cameron D. Parker.
The d on the birth certificate says Dallas. Although we

(00:23):
said we might have to start calling you, what was
it the difference what you revealed us last week? We
never got to it. We never did get to it.
Would you like to share that with us right now? Yeah? Well,
good afternoon. Yeah, I know people were just waiting all week.
And then let's hear this brought it up to my
my mom visiting.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I visited family last week and not Manana undergoing chemo
treatment and stuff. Was able to see her and see
some of the family, and you know that always brings back,
you know, you reminisce and tell stories. And she was
sharing stories about how when I was a kid and
visit her and this and that, and somehow we got
onto my name in Dallas, and my mom said, actually

(01:09):
we wanted the mill name. You wanted to give it,
give you the name Austin. But I didn't want to
go with Austin, and I was like, well, then, where
did Dallas come from? She was like, well, I think
it was your dad, but originally it was going to
be Austin, so my middle name maybe it maybe was
supposed to be Austin. I don't know where Dallas came from,
so it's it's inconclusive. And if I asked my dad,

(01:29):
he would not remember. So I really don't know what
the the where the goat from here? Maybe it's Austin.
You know, I could have been named.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The what's on your birth certific what's on your birth certific?
It is Dallas. Yeah, but that's gotta be. That's it's
official until proven other I think we need to get
your dad in on this deal to see what his men.
He won't remember. He has no memory.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, he has the world's worst memory.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
He doesn't remember what you had for breakfast. But you
told me once he wanted to name you Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
That was the story I had heard from I thought
my mom, but then she said this time it was Austin,
and I was like, well, where did Dallas come from?
So everyone's confused about it, But like you said, no
name on the pertificate of it. Birth certificate is Dallas.
First name is Cameron's. Yeah, okay, I'm not going to
change it. I'm not going to become World b Free
or met A World Peace or my grandfather orbar Yeah,

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there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
My grandfather was given the name at birth Samuel worth Way,
and he did not like Samuel. He thought he didn't
want people calling him sam. He legally changed his name,
flipping the two. He went by Worth his entire life,
Worth once he became an adult, Worth Samuel Way. And

(02:43):
part of it was because his father was Samuel, and
so his mother. When he was a little kid, they
called him Worth. So he decided to stick with Worth,
which is British and it's lineage. It's Worthington. It's sure
for Worthington. So but he went by Worth. Everybody. My
grandfather was Worway for years and years and years that
kind of thing. So he legally changed it. But you're

(03:06):
saying you're gonna stick with what.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
You got, Yeah, I mean at this point, Dallas is
more fun than Austin, although I do like the name Austin.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
It's a good name in city. Yeah it is. I
wanted to I actually wanted to name my youngest when
he was born, and he's about to turn twenty six
next week, and I wanted to name him Travis, and
my wife rest hers Hole at the time, she did
not want to name him Travis because she said she

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had a cousin who had a dog named Travis, and
she it would make her take a dog and it
would remind me of that scene at the end of
Indiana Jones. We named the dog Indiana. You know when
Sean Connery said that has there been names for you
that have been ruined? Like like you like this name
for a little bit, and then he met someone or
there was a character in a TV show that was

(03:58):
also named the same being that kind of like killed
your perspective. I tried to stay away from that one.
Naming much of my oldest son, Andrew Andrew Charles Way.
Charles was my dad's first name, so it was Andrew
Charles Way. And this Chuck Cooperstein said right after he

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was born, he was regally named Andrew and Charles what
we call him Andy, And a lot of people thought
I named him after Andy Griffith. I did not name
him after Andy Griffith, but we liked the name. Uh Andy.
So that's that's how it came to be where it
was Andy, the the daughter, the oldest one, Hailey. Uh.

(04:39):
We liked the sound of it from the British actress
Haley Mills, but she had no. It wasn't Haley van Lyft.
It wasn't and and and uh and neither one in
hers is not spelled like either of those. It's just
h A L E y Bath her middle name. Her

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mom's middle name is best. So it was Haley Beth
Juli Anne. I like the name ever I had heard from.
When I heard it from Julianne McNamara, the Olympic gymnast,
spelled all one name, not to Julie and Ann, just
j U L I A N N E and so
she I got the idea from that. But we name
her for that. And then I mentioned about Jason, so

(05:22):
we ended up going with Jason Travis Away. So where's
John and Danny? Our friend from ESPN Radio said, oh,
j t just like me, because John is John. I said, no,
his middle name is not Tallal, which is John. Danny's
middle named t A L A L John Tallal Danny
speaking of him. John, of course, produces the ESPN Radio

(05:44):
Network broadcast in the NBA Finals. So he is in
Oklahoma City. He'll be at pey Com Center tonight where
it'll be Game five NBA Finals. We know all the
the percentages the when teams are tied to the winner
of Game five wins the finals eighty percent of the

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time or eighty three percent of the time, I think
it is, which is where it flies against the other
thing about the winner of game one and the best
of seven series wins at sixty seven percent of the time.
Well that was Indiana. But now the Thunder really stepped
up and on Friday night and got a big win

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on the road, just as Indiana had done in Oklahoma City.
Now it's even two games a piece to and even
more crucial Game five tonight at Paycom Center.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It was another gut check win for an OKC team
that's had a series of gut check wins the entire playoffs.
I mean, I think back to the Denver series in
the second round, also down two to one, Game four
at Denver, entering the fourth quarter down by eight points,
they came from behind to win that game to two.
Would go on the win games five in seven to

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advance to the Western Conference Finals Game four against Minnesota
I thought was a gut check win after losing by
forty points in coming out, and.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
So similar deal, right down to one having to win that.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So if it feels like every chance, every time, Okayse's
had a must win game in the playoffs, they have
won those games. And you know, obviously I don't have
to it's not I'm not telling anyone anything new here.
Being down three to one and being two to two
two completely different series, right And for Indiana, what you know,
you kind of figured, okay, what they've been doing all

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playoffs long. You know, they steal Game one, a game
they probably should have lost, but Halliburton again with another
buzzer beater, able to win Game three.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
They're so good down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
It felt like Game four, injuring that fourth quarter is
gonna be another typical Indiana win where you just don't
understand how they do it, but they get it done.
And now it's gonna be three to one going to OKAC.
One went away from NBA Championship at OKAC and SGA's
say not so fast.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So I think it's been a great series.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know, I know there's gonna be a separate conversation
from people who I guess just have nothing better to
do than look at TV ratings because for some reason
it's important to them. But this has been I think,
a much more entertaining series than anything else that we've
had before in previous years. So Game five the night
I think, you know, obviously no no surprise here. Whoever

(08:25):
wins this I think will win the finals. Whether it's okay.
See now you have two chances to win out of
three games, and in two of those will be at
home for Indiana.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
You still wan on the road again like Game one.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Then you go back to Indiana Game six with a
chance to win an NBA championship. So it's gonna be
a fun game. It's going to be a grind. I mean,
looking at points to where its like in the eighties.
You know, entering the fourth quarter, these two teams play
such good defense, and you know SGA was incredible down
the stretch, had a you know, had that those five
straight points after they were down seven to two, RN

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to put him up on top and knock down some
clutch free throws at the end. But the defense from
Jet Holbron I thought was incredible in the fourth quarter,
and then Indiana. You know, it's always go back to
what sack Lowe says, which is it's a make or
miss league. And for Indiana, you know, if Halliburton misses
that game winning shot in Game one, this could be
a three to one series. But it's two two, and

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Indiana had made clutch shots, but you know, Halliburton had
a real nasty almost air ball. Miles Turner, who was
so good in the first couple of games, had had
a bad miss. Benedict Mathern, who had twenty seven points
in Game three, was just missing free throws down the
stretch in Game four. So make or miss league, This
will be a fun one tonight. And got a feeling

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once again it's going to be a single digit game
going in the fourth quarter. And I mean, shoot, it's
whoever's leading in the fourth quarter in this series seems
to be the team that loses it at the very end.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's weird about that third quarter lead doesn't seem to
matter much. Yeah, once you give the five, of course.
So that's the night. NHL Stanley Cup Finals resumed tomorrow
night back in South Florida, with the Panthers on the
verge of making it back to back Stanley Cups. What
a big win they got on Saturday in Edmonton. Got
out to the commanding lead and Edmonton tried to draw

(10:18):
close and couldn't do it. There pulled the goalie for
like five minutes to go in the game. They were
down four to one. Cut at a four too, but
then gave up an empty night or they lose five too.
And now the Panthers looked like they're on the precipice
again of making it back to back Stanley Cups after
never having won one before. Now they're on the verge
of winning too straight. So that resumes tomorrow night. We'll

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talk more about that tomorrow. The College World Series continues today.
Uh Carolina the Chanticleers, and boy was it. Coach Alas said, mate,
make sure you pronounce it right. It's Chanticleers, not Shanta Clears.
It's Shanta made a point of talking that he's got

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a little chip on the shoulder because he said, we're
not a Cinderella. We're one of the best programs in
the country every year. Do not call us at Cinderella.
And they're certainly performing like a non Cinderella. They beat
Oregon State last night, so they get a couple of
days off. Oregon State will have an elimination game tomorrow
against Louisville. It'll be a rematch of their College World

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Series opening day matchup when they beat Louisville. Louisville stayed
alive with a huge late rally in the eighth inning
to eliminate Arizona. So the Big Twelve is done for
the season. And then, of course the headliner Saturday night.
LSU look tremendous and jumped on Arkansas and Zach Rude

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early and ended up winning that first game. They will
play tonight in the winners bracket against UCLA. I was
mentioning to some people on Saturday night at dinner. They're like, no,
who's this playing here? And I said, well it's I said,
it's LSU in Arkansas, and who they play, Well, they'll play.
They're going to play Ucla. You say like, yeah, they

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beat Murray State, and I said, you know, that would
have been the game that Texas would have played in
had they won their regional and then beating UCLA and
the Super they would have been playing Murray State. But
UCLA beat them, and so UCLA plays LSU in the
winners bracket tonight. There's an elimination game going on right now.

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Arkansas the number three national seed. If they were to
lose today, the highest remaining national seed would be LSU
at number six. And if Oregons they were to lose
that rematch with Louisville tomorrow, they as the number eight
overall seed, would be knocked out. In the top eight

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national seeds would only have one left and that would
be LSU. However, Arkansas is up on Murray State. It's
one nothing and it's in the top of the fifth.
Arkansas is batting as the designated visiting team in this game,
so they're up one nothing on Murray State that is
in the top of the fifth, and he will keep
you posted on that. However, we're gonna go to break

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when we come back. I'm going to do what Sports
Center did last night, which just confounded me and I
was not planning to do it, but here it is.
It's happened to bury the US Open on down the
end of the story file because we were talking about NBA Finals,
because it is tonight. They were doing it last night,

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mainly because of two major announcements in Major League Baseball
yesterday that blockbuster trade the Red Sox and the Giants
with Rafael Devers, a three time All Star, going to
San Francisco for a package of players and the Giants
pick up the rest of his salary. And there's a
lot of interesting take on that about is this a
Luka Donchitz style trade or does it make a lot

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of sense. We'll talk more about that and the news
that show Aotani will go to the Mount and pitch
for the Los Angeles Dodgers tonight is his first time
to pitch as a Dodger. It's only going to work
about an inning. It's gonna be like a bullpen game
for LA, but he is going to pitch tonight. Those
two big announcements kind of buried, you know. The US Open.

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We're gonna talk about that coming up next. We do
have Inconceivable a little bit later on this hour, so
a lot to get to and obviously we'll get to
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(14:38):
This is Am thirteen under the Zone. It's the Craig
Way Show with the voice of.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
The Texas Longhorns and Hall of Fame broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm glad to have you with us on a Monday
afternoon here on thirteen hundred the Zone and a lot
to get to and like I said, here we are
twenty two minutes in the program and not mentioned yet
of JJ spawn and also the United States Open Championship,

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and what an incredible story it was for him. It
had never happened before. I don't think that a man
who had never made the cut in multiple opens winds
up winning the Open and CAM we were keeping track

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of him on Friday once you got back in the office,
and here he was still leading and led it, led
after the first round, led at the midway point, did
not lead it the fifty four hole thing, but was
right there and then actually had a really rocky start
to his final round. Have you ever seen a shot
hit like that? That the second shot he hit. I

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guess it was on number two that hit the stick
And it didn't just ricocheted back and off the collar
or even the short ruck by the green. It it
followed the contour of the green around and then went
way down and he wound up making you know, back
to back Bogie's there earlier to be down and for
him to rally back and to finish it the way

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he did. Back to back birdies, including that sixty four
footer on number eight team was incredible.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Bogie's five of his first six holes, including that boget
number two and which could have been probably a tap
in Birdie putt for him if it did not hit
the pin, and that's something that could easily rally around,
and it looked like it was. I mean, going into
yesterday's final round, it kind of seemed like it's going
to be between Sam Burns and Adam Scott. Well Burns

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shot seventy eight, Adam Scott shot at seventy nine. But
the biggest difference, make think is the rain delay, because
it seemed like that rain delay allowed JJ Spahn to
kind of reset because he comes out of the rain
delay makes that like forty foot double breaker for Birdie
on the par five. Birdie's fourteen ends up boguing fifteen,

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I think, the hardest hole on the course yesterday, and
then finishes with two of the best shots that I
think I've ever seen the t shot in seventeen, the
par four, the driveable par four in which we'd seen
a lot of guys, including Trell Hatton who missed it
right and was on the downhill slope into the bunker,
ends up making bogie, ends up almost snapping his club.

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We saw Burns miss it far or no, I think
maybe Adam Scott Burns and ended up making birdie on
that hole. But we saw a couple guys really struggle
with that hole down the stretch. But Spawn drives the
green shot of the tournament, able to two putt for birdie.
And then eighteen, one of the toughest holes, also the

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third toughest on Sunday, a hole that we saw a
lot of guys if you if you miss it right,
you are dead, including Troll Hatton, Jordan Spieth who he
had missed it right, had to take a seven wood
and just had to like chunk it out of the
rough because it was so deep. But Spawn just smacks
it right down the middle of the fairway, able to
get it on the green, and you're thinking, man, okay,

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can he two putt from from sixty four feet and
of course Victor Hoblin ends up hitting it behind this
ball so he gets to read. But JJ spawn with
I think one of the most memorable putts to win
a golf championship be could have two putted. But hey,
why do you need the two putt when you can
just make the first putt? As Dan Hicks on the
NBC broadcast said, why not one? So what a finish.

(18:44):
I thought it was a fantastic round. I think a
lot would be pointed to Sam Burns in that interesting
decision from the rules officials to not give him temporary
relief from the water on fifteen.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
That's it. That's where I was going next. I mean,
he it looked like the water was just just soaking
the area. And his quote was, when I walked into it,
clearly you could see water coming up. Took practice swings
and it's just water splashing. Every single time called the
rules official, ever, they disagreed. I looked at it again.
I thought maybe I should get a second opinion. That

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rules official also disagreed. At the end of the day,
it's not up to me, it's up to the rules official.
That's kind of that, he said to the best I could.
He was forced to play it where it was He
tried to avoid the water as best he could. The
ball goes across the fairway, goes into the thick fescue
on the left rough, and then that's when he swung

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his club in frustration. He was pretty mad about it
by the end of the hole. He had a second
double bogie in the afternoon and that pretty much did him.
And he said, I did the best I could. I
was one hundred percent locked in and was trying to
do and ultimately it felt like the water just kind
of got in the way, so I didn't I never
saw any kind of statement from the USGA, from the

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officials on what they saw and why it was. They
asked Adam Scott about it because he was playing. There
was its borderline unplayable. The water was like so close
to the surface, like the shot I hit on the eleven.
It's bizarre. I just don't know. It was like an
aqua plane on the ground, is what he said. So anyway,

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he said, did the best it could do anything with it.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Good response from Burnsy there, and you know, to be
pointing out he finished five shots behind JJ spawn so
he made double on the fifteenth. Even if he makes par,
he's still three shots behind, and who knows he he was.
You know, he was coming off a stretch where he
went double bogie par parr after the rain delay, so

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he was limping already coming in, as was Adam Scott.
The unplayable parts, interestingly as in the course because we
saw the conditions. But I mean JJ Spahn ended up
finishing three hunderd par after the rain delay. Robert mac
and big shot Bob he played two unders. So I
don't think it was unplayable because those guys went out

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and played well. Hovelin played even par. But you know,
for burns In, for Scott, they just did not have
it going into the final round. And that's part of golf.
That's why the US Open is supposed to be the
hardest test in golf, and I think it delivered that.
I had people texting me asking, is is it normal
for the US Open to be over par at Oakmond?

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It is at Oakmond. It is because when Ongo Cabrera
won on two thousand and seven, it was over par DJ.
When he won in twenty sixteen, he was one of
a couple of golfers under par.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
But and all of us older guys, remember hail erwin
in nineteen seventy four at wingfoot seven over. He won
it at seven over par at Wingfoot, which I think
in two years is going to host the Open. I
think it's at Shinnecock next year Shinnakok and then unfortunately
goes back to Wingfoot. Yeah, two years. Yeah, so I
thought it should have he should have gotten casual water relief.

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I thought he should. But your point is well made.
Even if he gets down, he makes par, he's not
going to stop spawn. Who did what he had to do,
and that was that was incredible what he did, the way.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
He finished, and he had you know, he had one
rules of Icier come over and look at it, denied
him the temporary relief or they call it casual relief.
He called the second one and the second official also
denied it. So it could be a thing in the roles.
You know, you think back to the Women's College World Series.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Right and the umpire interference umpire interference, and then what
was the well there was the obstruction called obstruction Collachi
we saw happened what three or four times? Yeah, where
Texas Tech benefited from And at that point it's okay,
it's got to be something. How the role is written
because it's happened three times and each time it's been
called obstruction. So you had two rules official come over

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and look at it and both denied it. So but
Kyle Porter on Twitter posted a video he went to
the spot right after Burns hit that shot and he's like,
this is what his stance was, and you can see
the water he took a step in the water's coming up.
So I mean, the way the rule is interpreted will
be up for discussion, I think for a while. But

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once again, I mean twenty sixteen member Dustin Johnson had
that one shot penalty. He went on the win, so
it didn't affect him, but for Sam Burns did affect
him and he did not win. So and congratulations to
Spawn because that was an amazing for him. And I
thought he addressed the whole you might say, larger picture

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of it afterwards saying he was pretty much saying it
doesn't change me as a person or even really change
my game, but it changes some of the stuff that
the way he goes forward because it is going to
change his life and somebody's being Anyture champion, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
And I think last year at this time he was
ranked one hundred and fifty fourth yea in the world.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Here's only one once and that was San Antonio, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
He's won You only won one sat Falerro in twenty
twenty two. And remember he lost to Roy mccroy and
the Players Championship in a playoff earlier this season. But
I mean, looking at his results in major championships, you
know on Wikipedia his best finish was a T twenty
three in the Masters in twenty twenty two. I mean
he finished ty for thirty seven the Coohaal, the fiftieth

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of the Masters, did not play in a major championship
last year, only played in one and twenty three, missed
the cut battles of the PGA. And I mentioned the
Masters appearance in twenty twenty two. He has never played
all four majors in one season coming up to this year.
Now he will for probably the rest of the next
five years at least. So awesome for him. And you
know he talked about he said he began the day

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going to CVS because his daughter was throwing.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Up at three in the morning. Yeah, so it's.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
A fun story if you like stories like that. I mean,
by all accounts, it seems to be a pretty stand
up guy. You know, he's dealt with injuries and dealt
with just losing his game and has been able to
you know, kind of dig deep. And I think he
credited Andre Agassi. I guess obviously Augusty Andre Agassy Andrea

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Agassy for kind of some inspiration, because Agassy talked about
I don't remember which tournament was, but he he I
think he was playing in a French Open and a
similar thing happened where he was playing Medvedev and there
was a rain delay and he was he had lost
I think two sets in in like forty six minutes.

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He was getting his butt wept and he went into
the locker during the delay and his coach just laid
into him, and Andre says that gave him some inspiration,
went out and won the match. And for JJ Spahn,
he says that he kind of saw that and it
was an hour and thirty six minutes the weather delay,
he kind of he said he saw that this may

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have been you know, a year ago or two years ago,
whenever he saw his got blessed out by I was
talking about that on a broadcast.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
And he said that that kind of gives him inspiration,
so you know, coold to see all right? Speaking of okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
that's like you just shrunk. For those who were watching
their the stream and on the stream, you just saw
Cameron drop about what a foot and a half at least? Yeah,
he went even down there. A little bit update on
the College World Series elimination game. Marketsall still leading Maurice

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State one to nothing. Razorbacks are batting in the top
half of the sixth inning there in Omaha. Will keep
you posted on that up next inconceivable Here on this
Monday afternoon, I'm thirteen under the zone, second hour of
the program here on thirteen hundred of the zone. Craig Way,
glad to be with you here on a Monday afternoon.
I hope you weekend went all right. Cameron Parker is

(26:41):
wearing a Tobacco Road golf shirt. Now did you get
that when you were in North Carolina last week? Did
you play Tobacco Road? I didn't. Yeah. Where is that
course located? I know it's near the Research Triangle. It's
in Sandford, North Carolina. Oh yeah, that's right, Sandfordya. It's
a little bit sound there, right, Okay, expensive, it was

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worth it.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Though yes, it probably one of the most fun experiences
I've had on a golf course life.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay, last of of course, Okay, all right, well that's good.
We talked about the US Open in the first hour
of the program. JJ spond winning his first major championship.
The fact that he navigated the wind and the rain
and all that, does that make him a guy to
take seriously for when they get to Royal Port Rush

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in Northern Ireland for the Open Championship next month.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You would think so, I mean, the way he's been
playing this entire season. I mean, I would say Sawgrass
is a little bit different than than Oakmont in terms
of course fits, so he's been able to do it
in different courses so far this season. I would have
to brush back up on.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I think it was the.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Twenty twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen Open Championship. That was when
Shane Lowry won by my six strokes, six strokes over
over Tommy Fleetwood, and of course Rory missed a cup
by one. That was a whole ordeal. But you feel
good about him. I feel really good about Victor Hoblin
going into the Open Championship too. He's played really well

(28:18):
there during his career. I know he missed the cut
last season, but you know he was someone that yesterday,
you know he was. I think he only finished three
or two shots behind. Yeah, only two shots behind, sorry,
three shots behind JJ Spahn. He's a couple puts away
from from maybe forcing a playoff or even winning the

(28:39):
tournament last week.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
So you know, you just love Hoblin, all right, So
you know you just described there. Hoblind of course played
at Oklahoma State. Ricky Fowler played at Oklahoma State. How
many times has he gotten close and couldn't win a
major championship? I'm not saying Victor Hoblin. Well, I'm just saying,
you know, some might say, hey, another former Big twelve

(29:02):
golfer might be in a better position, lud Vig Oberg
who played at Texas Tech. Maybe he might be the
one to break through to win a major other than
somebody from the University of Texas. Yeah, I don't know. Oberg.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Disappointing miscut this past week in at Oakland. I thought
he would play really well there. He's had a weird season.
There might be some injury stuff there, some murmurs of
a migraine on Friday. Would like to see more out
of him come the Open champions because he's someone I
think this season you would think he would at least
have won a major by now. For Victor Hoflin, that's

(29:37):
a good fair comparison. It's his fifth top ten in
a major championship. He's been playing in majors. Now, let's
see about this is about his sixth season on the tours,
his fifth year, fourth year as a as a professional.
He's gotten close, hasn't gotten over that hump yet.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I could see him doing it in the Open Championship.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
But but yeah, he could be one of those guys that
you love in that conversation. I would say, out of
the current golfers right now that have not won a
major championship, I would say it's probably Victor Hobland at
the top of that list. In terms of golfers who
are are currently in their prime. Not overall that's a
pretty big list, but golfers right now in terms of

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their ability in what they're playing.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I mean, looking at the current world golf rankings, out
of the guys who have not won a major championship,
Victor Hovlin he's ninth overall in the world, and of course,
you know with Live Golf towards the rankings are a
little bit weird. You have Russell Henley at six and
stepstrac at seven, but Hoblin ninth overall, with your guy
Lovevig at number ten, I would say Hoblind is that

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best to have not won won a major championship yet
in terms of how he's played. But that's why to
be a great opportunity for him.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, and of course I think a lot of so
much attention will be focused on Rory going back to
his home country there in Northern Ireland when they play
that next week. Update on the College World Series. They're
now in the bottom of the seventh inning. Arkansas added
two runs on the top of the seventh. They now
lead Murray State by score three to nothing. It's an
elimination game for the loser of the season is over

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and they go home. The winner will advance to another
elimination game on Wednesday to face the loser of tonight's
winners bracket game between LSU and UCLA. But there's another
story going on in this game right now. Gage Wood
outstanding pitcher for Arkansas pitcher Really WILLI gets Texas when

(31:40):
we saw him last month and having a great season,
and he's having a spectacular College World Series game. Gage
Wood has retired twenty consecutive batters to ope the ball game.
He's now through six and a two thirds innings two Thursday,

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and he has a perfect game, and fourteen of the
twenty batters have been retired on strikeouts. Ten of those
fourteen have come on the fastball. So this guy has
everything working this afternoon. And like I said, there was
only one nothing ballgame. Razorbacks came up with a couple
of runs on the top of the seventh and he's

(32:22):
just gotten out of the seventh. So it's twenty one up,
twenty one down for gage Wood. He's nearing ninety pitches,
so I'm sure they're going to obviously stick with him.
And it's twenty one up, twenty one down, and he
is and fourteen of those twenty one outs have been

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recorded by strikeouts, so we might be looking at a
perfect game going on. There's there's been no hitters thrown
in the College World Series, including by a Loggorn pitcher.
Jim Arler did it, and I believe in nineteen fifty
two and Texas still wound up being like the runner
up that year to Michigan. But there have been no

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hitters thrown before. But this is an effort for a
perfect game. And it's through seven innings now at Charles
Schwab Field, and it is a it's a three to
nothing lead for Arkansas, so they're in good shape to
win the game and stay alive. But the bigger story
now is starting to become engage would pitch a perfect
game in this elimination game against Murray State. We'll find

(33:31):
out about that, Okay. Then there's this other story to
get to, and it was yesterday it became official, actually,
I guess what late Saturday night when the NCAA Men's
and Women's Track and Field Championships concluded. USC won the
women's titled, Texas finished tenth, Texas A and M won

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the men's outdoor National Championship. When all of the scores
were tabulated, all of the points were added up, what
came out was that Texas, for the fourth time in
five years, has won the Director's Cup. But it's never

(34:19):
been as close as it was this time. And it
really got into a lot of the minutia the way
if you don't know how the Director's Cup works on that.
There are points tabulated based on some sports that are

(34:39):
mandatory that you have to have. I think I'm looking
for the ones that you absolutely have to have on this.
I know that baseball is one of those. Men's and
women's basketball are also utilized track and feel uh. And

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then and then after you get past the ones that
are the compulsory ones for all of those, there are
other ones that you can uh score points off off
of your highest finish. So they did that and it
basically came down to a couple of finishes at the

(35:22):
NCAA track meet to determine the national champion, but also
to determine the Director's Cup champion because Uh, some of
the things that happened was that if USC, which got
close but did not win the track championship, if USC
had won it outright, then they would have won. Then uh,

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they would have won the Director's Cup. If a Stanford
five K runner had finished in second place instead of third,
Stanford would have won the Directors Uh. And then not
only that, some stuff that was crazy, And this was
what Danny Davis tweeted about this, uh, saying reminding everybody

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that the Director's Cup uses the final Coaches Poll to
determine football points, which is why Texas got eighty five points.
If the Director's Cup had used the final AP Poll,
Texas would have received eighty points and he would have
finished in third. But for whatever reason, they've always used
the Coaches Poll not the AP pole. So Texas got

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eighty five points for that, and so anyway, so that's
that's where it is. The difference between first place and
third place is four point two five points, zero point
thirty three percent, so and that covers thirty six points

(36:54):
and thirty one that the team's Texas, USC and Stanford
compete Inford, by the way, competes in thirty one sports.
Texas competes in twenty one sports on that but UH
and USC finished in second, Stanford finished third. But it
would have if if saltball had not won the national championship,

(37:16):
there would have been five points less and they would
have fallen off because of that. So anyway, that's that's
where that is. And UH and as close as it
was on everything on those final scorecards, Texas with a
grand total of twelve hundred and fifty five point two

(37:39):
five points wins it UH USC was twelve fifty three
point seven five Stanford twelve to fifty one. So four
point twenty five points separating first to third, first to
second was two and a half points. That's it. And

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if it's you know, winning the national championships in men's
swimming and diving and softball were big, finishing third, a
tie for third in women's basketball with the final four
third and rowing third, and football, and so I said,
wait a minute, wait they lost the playoff, and again
it goes back to they don't you get points if
you are in a bowl game and win. But but

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and here's something a lot of long worn fans and
other people did not understand. Conference championships do not apply.
It's not about where you finish in your conference. It's
how you ultimately do if you make the NCAA postseason
and whatever sport is on the table at the moment.

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And so that's that's where it comes down to performance
overall in NCAA. Being in the conference conference stuff does
not apply in this case. So anyway, that's but it's
it's a nice achievement. And and here's what I've discovered
over the years, And like I said, this is four
times in five years the Texas has won it. And

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to put it into some perspective, the first year in
the nineties that they did the Director's Cup, North Carolina
won it. Stanford won the next twenty five twenty five
in a row. And of course Stanford has a lot
of you know sports, Like I said, there's thirty one

(39:23):
sports that they compete in, so you're the ones that'
are really really good in you can extrapolate from those.
And so for Texas, then to break that street for
Stanford of having on twenty five and to win two
in a row, then Stanford won one, then win two
more in a row. Now four and five years, that's

(39:44):
an accomplishment. Now, what I have learned and discovered over
the years, what I started to say is the importance
of the Director's Cup is directly proportional to a person's fandom.
Because those who are University of Texas fans, they're pretty
excited about it. A lot of them are. I think

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it's really cool. If you are not a fan of this, specifically,
if you are a fan of a rival school of Texas,
dad's not so much. And then of course the Texas
fans retort is, yeah, if you had won the Director's Cup,
especially if you won it four times in the last
five years, you would be crowing about it, which might
be the case, so who knows. But anyway, that's where

(40:31):
it is right now in Texas. Congratulation the University of
Texas winning the Director's Cup for the fourth time in
five years. All right, up next, I want to get
to some other college football notes and we'll update on
that perfect game attempt that is going on at the
College World Series in Omaha. Right now, they're going out

(40:54):
for the bottom of the eighth inning, Arkansas leading Murray
State three and a n fing gauge. Wood has retired
all twenty one batters. He's faced fourteen by strikeout. Ten
of those strikeouts on fastballs, so he's on a roll.
We'll see if he can maintain it or if Murray
State can break it up. It's three nothing Razorbacks as

(41:15):
they go to the bottom of the eighth And this
is the Craig wat Show on thirteen Under the Zone,

(41:35):
Monday afternoon here on thirteen under the Zone. Hey, let
me address something really quickly here. I know that some
of you are listening on the terrestrial signal, in other words,
thirteen hundred on your dial. Maybe hearing some interference on
occasion from commercials. In fact, somebody, a couple of folks
at texted in on our text on somebody said, hey,
hearing Craig in the commercials at the same time, and

(41:56):
somebody else, hey, Craig, can you turn off the commercials? Eerie?
Because of that, I wish I appreciate your confidence in me,
and I wish I had the button to sake commercials
off as simple as that. It's a technical issue and
we have, as Cameron would say, top men on it

(42:16):
right now.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
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Speaker 1 (42:35):
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Speaker 2 (42:37):
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Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, all right, and again apologize for that and we'll
try to get that get that taken care of as
soon as as is possible. Updates in the College World series.
The Perfect Game for gage Wood is gone, but the
no hitter is still intact. He hit the leadoff batter

(43:05):
in the bottom of the eighth inning, so no more
perfect game. But the leadoff man is a board for
the Murray State Racers in that elimination game as they
tried to stay alive in that one. So and there
is one out in the bottom half of the eighth inning.

(43:25):
So one out, one on the bottom half of the
eighth inning. And again Arkansas leads that game by a
score of three to nothing. And now they've gotten out
of it, and so the inning is over. It is
still three nothing. Razorbacks are going to the ninth. He
still has no hitter going Gagewood does he just he
hit the leadoff man in the eighth So the no

(43:46):
hitter is still intact and Arkansas has the lead, and
we'll see how kind of how it goes for the
ninth inning as he works out on that. All right,
another thing I wanted to get to There was a
piece penned in Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine by our
good friend Mike Craven where and I think it was

(44:09):
the combination of the staff at Dave Campbells Texas football
magazine that put together what they believe are the toughest
football schedules, college football schedules, the toughest college football schedules
in the state of Texas, and I want to remind

(44:32):
folks of this. I mentioned this the other day that
next month we will be giving away copies of Dave
Campbell Texas Football Magazine, as we do every year. I've
done it every year since nineteen ninety eight, so this
will be the I guess it'll be the twenty eighth
consecutive year that we've done it, going into this twenty

(44:55):
eighth consecutive season, and we will be giving some way
when we get to next month, we get the magazines
which are not on the news stands yet, and we'll
visit with Greg Tepper next week to talk about the
cover reveal, which has Sark on the cover and also
on the gatefold cover the inside flap cover where they

(45:15):
put high school players and coaches. They got both of
that represented from the defending state champions in Class four
A Division one Salina with head coach Bill Elliott and
a couple of his players. So we'll do that. We'll
get to it now. As I mentioned, there is the

(45:36):
there's nine weekends remaining before the start of the college
football season, and so nine weekends, and it'll actually start
with a week zero matchup between sam Houston and Western
Kentucky that'll be in a Conference USA, so that that

(45:59):
will start it. But the other twelve schools in the
state of Texas will begin their twenty twenty five campaign
one week later. That's in the final weekend in August,
with Texas at Ohio State and Baylor at Auburn. By
the way, let me throw it in one more editorial
note only because I've been through it myself here recently.
If you are planning to go to the Texas Ohio

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State game, and for that matter, any of the other
road destinations for Texas this year in the SEC, including
Dallas for the Ou game, But mainly I'm thinking of
flight travel as much as anything. Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi State.

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If you're planning to fly to those destinations, I would
encourage you to get those reservations done because, just in
some recent perusal that just for our broadcast team to
go there, for Roger Wallace and Will Matthews and myself
to travel to the destination, it was a challenge to
try to get our flight travel booked for those destinations.

(47:12):
So I would I would just caution you on that
if you're unless you're planning to drive and Startfield's not
that bad a drive. It would probably be in the neighborhood.
I would say, of nine ten hours something like that.
But Florida, that's a long drive. You've made the drive

(47:33):
from Florida to Texas before, right, because your mom lives
in Florida. Have you driven? No, You've never driven from
Florida to God? Now, all right, what about when you
what about when you settled in into college, You didn't
move a whole bunch of junk to I.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Drove from North Carolina to Texas. Well, that's even farther, yeah,
he said, But my mom has been in Florida since
my junior year of college.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Oh okay, all right, all right, my dad on that. Okay,
you've driven from Carolina. Yeah, that's even farther. But that
was a long time ago. Okay, okay. Uh, it's a
long drive and I'm getting ready to do it. I'm
I'm getting ready to do it. Here at the end
of next week, it'll be And.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I don't know how you do it because last time
I'd made that drive when I moved here, I said,
I'm never doing that.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Terrible. I do it every year on vacation and part
of it. There's several reasons for it. One, uh, Linda
doesn't mind the drive. She kind of likes it in fact.
Two we kind of break it up. We you know,
stop off along the way. Like I said, we're gonna

(48:38):
go to mine L's where you ate the four dinner
plates and eight he says, a fried chicken. We're gonna
we're gonna do that in Nashville, and I think we're
gonna spend a night in Ashville in the mountains, and Caroline,
we're gonna go to Greensboro and see the Greensborough Grasshoppers
playing the minor league team. So we're gonna do that,
but in the run up to getting to the coast.
But uh, there's another very important reason why we drive.

(48:59):
We and take Lindu's espresso maker. Oh okay, that's that's
a very important, very important part of the whole thing
is to is to take that espresso machine for her.
So it's not the only thing, but we are able
to do that. So anyway, yeah, uh, but my point

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was just going to be. If you're if you're planning
to fly to these destinations to see the Longhorns play,
I would suggest that you get that get that plane
ticket booked as quickly as you can, okay. Uh. Dave
Campbell's Texas Football Magazine UH and Mike Craven's piece itys
who has the toughest schedule in Texas? Texas and Texas

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A and M lead the way because of the weekly
grind and one Marque non conference game each, SMU and
the Big twelve programs slot right behind, with the G
six at the rear despite some brutal non conference scheduling
at UTEP and Sam Houston traveling to Austin to play
the Longhorns for a large sum of money. So here's
how they Here's how Mike Craven and Texas Football has

(50:05):
it ranked from. And these are the thirteen Division one
FBS programs, not the FCS programs like Abilene Christian or
Tarleton or Lamar or incarnate word, No, just the FBS
Bull Subdivision programs. Number thirteen is UTEP. Well, they have

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their toughest games at Texas Liberty at the home in
Jacksonville State and Mike Craven writes the road game against
Texas is more about survival than success. But outside of
a home game against Liberty, the rest of the schedule
sets up nicely for Scotty Walden in year number two
for the Miners, No, Western Kentucky is an ice draw.
Number twelve Sam Houston toughest games at Texas, at Western

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Kentucky and against UNLV. They said a trip to Austin
is tied with UTEP for the toughest non conference game
for any of the G six programs in the lone
Star State. The first four games in the Phil Longo
era at SAM Houston are brutal. A week zero trip
to Western Kentucky, the Conference USA favorite after Liberty, and

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a long journey to Hawaii bookend a home game against
UNLV and a home game is relative because remember Sam
Houston is playing outside of Huntsville all season because of
construction at Bauer Stadium. Were they playing their home games
out this year? Is it in Houston? While you look
that up? Number eleven by Alma mater, North Texas, the

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Mean Green toughest games they have Washington State at home,
They're at Army and then of course they play UTSA
says the schedule sets up for a breakout season for
the Mean Green in year three under Eric Morris. They
avoid conference favorites like Memphis and Tulane, and they get
rival uts say at home. An early season trip to
Army is possibly the toughest game on the schedule. The

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non conference slate is manageable and headlined by a home
game against Washington State. Number twelve. Number ten is Rice.
Their toughest games are Houston, Memphis and a Louisiana. Start
of the scott abell Era begins with a trip to
face Louisiana, routinely one of the top G six programs
in the country and one of the odds on favorites
to win the Sun Belt. The week after that is

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a home game against an improved Houston squad. The Alice
travel at UTSA, USF and Navy, and conference play home
games against Memphis, North Texas number nine Texas State. Toughest
games are at Arizona State. That's the payback game for
the game when they had the Sun Devils in San
Marcos last year and went down to the wire on
that Thursday Night's and that's the deal too. And at

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Louise at UTSA and at Louisiana says non conference road
games against UTSA and Arizona State and consecutive weeks are
massive challenges. The Sun Belt schedules headlined by a trip
to Louisiana and a midweek home game against James Madison.
A trip to Southern miss could be tough, considering that
as basically the Marshall squad that won the conference last year,

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you had, the coach went down there and a lot
of the players transferred there. Number eight is UTSA, with
their toughest games being at Texas A and M and
then Tulane an Army. A non conference schedule of A
and M, Texas State, and Colorado State means a one
in three start isn't out of the question. The AAC
schedule includes home games against conference favorites Tulane and Army,
trips to North Texas and USF For tricky as is

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the home game against East Carolina. Number seven Houston toughest
games at Arizona State, at home against Texas Tech, and
at Baylor. The Coops most likely start in the year
two and oh due to non conference games against SFA
and at Rice. The Big Twelfth schedule is tougher. However,
trips to Arizona State and Baylor looked to be the
hardest on paper. Houston will host Texas Tech and TCU.

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Number six Texas Tech toughest games at Arizona State, at
Kansas State, and at home against BYU, says the Red
Raiders should avoid any September stepbacks due to a weak
non conference schedule of Arkansas Pine Bluff, Kent State, and
Oregon State all at home. The Big Twelve slake does
include road trips to Utah, Houston, Arizona State, and Kansas State.

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Texas Tech is six and ten on the road under
Joey McGuire, but the program did exercise some of those
demons with a three and two mark away from love
of last year. The home game late in the year
against BYU could be a huge contest. Number five is
baylor toughest road games at home against Auburn at SMU

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and then against Arizona State, says the Bears face the
toughest non conference schedule of the four Big Twelve programs
in Texas thanks to Auburn at home in week one
and SMU on the road in week two. They start
the Big Twelve March with Arizona State. Week six is
a home game against Cana. That's four losable games before
the open date on October eleventh. Taylor started slowly last season.

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You can't do that and contend for a conference championship.
The back half of the Big Twelve schedule includes Utah
and a trip to TCU. Number four is TCU toughest
games at Arizona State, at home against SMU, and at BYU.
The horn Frogs welcome Bill Belichick to college football at a
September first showdown at North Carolina. They host an SMU

(55:30):
team that embarrassed them last season in the final scheduled
battle for the Iron skillet three weeks later. Yeah, they're
not going to play anymore after this year. Trips to
Arizona State, Kansas State, and BYU, arguably the three best
teams in the Big Twelve, was a tough draw. The
home schedule includes Iowa State and Baylor. Number three SMU
toughest games at Clemson, at home against Miami, and at

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home against Louisville. SMU plays non conference games against Big
Twelve contenders Baylor and TCU before the ACC schedule even begins,
and that conference late is much harder than the Pony's
first forura. In the Power for Football, SMU figures to
be underdogs against Clemson and Miami, and Louisville should enter
the year a top twenty five team. The Mustangs begin

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acc play by hosting a Syracuse squad that won ten
games last season. Number two is Texas, with the toughest
games being at Ohio State at Georgia and ou Any
schedule with trips to Ohio State in Georgia is in
the running for the toughest schedule in the nation, much
less the state. A slightly easier SEC road keeps the

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Yaggies in the top spot. However, the long Wrorns do
play the yearly crapshoot against Oklahoma at the State Fair,
and rivalry games against Arkansas and A and M shouldn't
be dismissed. A sneaky tough game for this national championship
contender is the visit to the Swamp to play DJ
Lagway in Florida a week before the Red River rivalry.

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And the number one toughest schedule according to Dave Campbell's
Texas Football is Texas A and M. Toughest games at
Notre Dame at LSU and at Texas. The Aggies went
two and two on the road last year under Mike Elko,
an improvement after losing the previous ten games away from
Kyle Field. Those voyages are much tougher in twenty twenty five, however,
starting with a Week three clash against Notre Dame, last

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season's national runner up, Texas, A and M must also
visit LSU Missouri in Texas. The home games aren't a
walk in the park either, with improved squads such as
Auburn and Florida on the docket. It is possible that
the Aggies are improved in year two under Elco, but
the record doesn't show it at the end of the season.
That's why there's a lot to talk about that about

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A and M being perennially eight and four or whatever,
because even though they could be very much, you know,
very much improved, they could still, however, wind up having
a schedule a record somewhere in that neighborhood. All right,
we have more coming up. Well, that College World Series
game for you coming up when we continue on thirteen.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Under the Zone.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
All right, now we can update and tell you that
it is official. It is in the books. Gauge Wood
of Arkansas has thrown only the third no hitter in
College World Series history. And like I said, it's only happened.
It's first time it's happened in sixty five years. And
I think the first guy to do it was Jim
Earlier who pitched for Texas in maybe it was fifty

(58:35):
three against Michigan. But anyway, Gage Wood was amazing today.
He threw one hundred and nineteen pitches. He struck out
nineteen Murray State racers and it's the most strikeouts in
a nine inning game in College World Series history. Arkansas
scored one run in the third and then scored two

(58:55):
more in the sixth, and they went at three to nothing.
So the Razorbacks stay alive. That's in the bottom line.
With this ultimately meant they had to win to keep
their season alive. Murray State's storybook season comes to an end.
Arkansas will now face the loser of tonight's winners bracket
game between LSU and UCLA. LSU, of course, defeated the

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Razorbacks the other night on Saturday night in their respective
series openers, and then in UCLA of course one over
Murraystown on Saturday afternoon, so that's a winner's bracket game
tonight between UCLA and LSU, and the winner of that

(59:38):
will be one went away from playing for the National championship,
just like Coastal Carolina is in the other bracket. With
Coastal winning its games its first two games, including last night,
so Coastal as a result of that, is one win away,
and now the winner of tonight's game between LSU and

(59:58):
UCLA will be one win away from playing for the
national title. But they have faced Arkansas, and I don't know.
Arkansas is going to have to win another elimination game
and that's going to be on Wednesday. But their pitching
staff has certainly been revived and refreshed because they were

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able to do it with one guy who threw one
hundred nineteen pitches. So Arkansas wins at three to nothing,
and they are still alive, and they will play the
loser of tonight's game between LSU and UCLA on Wednesday.
Two big stories in Major League Baseball and we'll get
him to them in the four o'clock hour is the

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trade that the Red Sox made with the Giants and
sending Raphael Devers to San Francisco and the announcement that
for the Dodgers tonight, Shoe Aotani will actually start the
game on the mount. It will be the first time
he's ever pitched for LA. He's probably only going to
pitch one inning is going to start tonight, but anyway,
and we'll get into those stories a little more coming

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up next hour. However, the first update in All Star
Game voting was released today. That's less than a month
before the game is scheduled to take place at Truist
Park that's home of the Atlanta Braves. The top vote
recipients in each league, I know you're gonna absolutely just

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shock you, Cameron, and the American League gets Aaron Judge
and the Nashley gets show a time. These surprised that,
by the way, the top vote recipient in each league
gets to bypass the next round of voting and earns
an outright starting assignment. So both those guys will be starting.

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Everyone else has to go through a second dase of voting.
The fans will be voting among the various finalists at
each position. The first phase phase of voting will continue
until noon June twenty six. So here's the leading vote
getters right now. Is of June sixteenth, So the first
phase goes for another ten days. But right now, here's

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your leaders at each position. Catcher Cal Rawley of the
Mariners first base, How about Paul Goldschmidt of the Yankees.
The former Texas State bobcat played for Ty Arrington. There
second base, Labor Torres of the Tigers. Shortstop Jose Ramiers
of the Guardians. No excuse me, third base, Jose Ramiers

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of the Guardian. Shortstop Jacob Wilson of the Athletics outfield,
Like we said, Aaron Judge, who has the most votes
in the American League, Riley Green of the Tigers, and
Mike Trout of the Angels the d h right now
in the first round of voting still underway is Rhan
O'Hearn of the Orioles now the National League. Catcher Will

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Smith of the Dodgers. First baseman Freddy Freeman of the
Dodgers second base, could tell Martea the Diamondbanks third base
Manny Machado of the Padres, shortstop Francisco Lindora the Mets outfield,
Pete crow Armstrong of the Cubs, Kyle Tucker of the Cubs,
and Teoscar Hernandez of the Dodgers and Choeyotani of the

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Dodgers the DH So that's the first phase. It'll go
until the twenty sixth of June, and again the top
vote getters get an automatic buy into the lineup and
would be starters. And right now that's Aaron Judge and Choeyotani.
The next phase of voting will stretch from Monday, June
thirtieth until Wednesday, July second, and then the starters will

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be announced that night in a broadcast and the rest
of the team will be named on Sunday, July sixth.
The All Star Game is scheduled for I think it's
four weeks from tomorrow season. This would be the seventeenth,
twenty fourth the first A yeah, four weeks, four weeks

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from tomorrow is where that is, all right, So that's
the early All Star voting with them. We'll be back
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under the zone. All right, recapping from the top of
the hour. If you didn't hear about it, and we
were keeping folks updated as it was going along. Arkansas
stays alive in the College World Series by shutting out
Murray State three to nothing. But that's not the big

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story out of that. The big story is Gage Wood
for Arkansas, pitching the third no hitter in men's College
World Series history, the first in sixty five years, and
the two guys who did it before him. The first
do it Jim Earler of Texas did it in nineteen

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fifty against Tufts. It's from Massachusetts, so it used to
be like a women's only school. No, I think you're
thinking of something else. Tufts has been around for a while.
I think Tom Penders coach there at Tufts for a
while before he went from there on to Rhode Island.
It's in Boston or up in New England. I ever

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think Tufts is and it would have been hard for
it an all girls school to be in the Men's
College World Series. You know, so, oh, I was thinking
just at one point, oh, at one point. Maybe it
was back years and years prior to that. Maybe it
was Jim Earler of the Long Worns did it against TUFs.
Jim Wickson of Oklahoma State did it in nineteen sixty

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against North Carolina. Interestingly enough, in nineteen sixty, Oklahoma State
was the defending national champions. They won their one College
World Series in nineteen fifty nine. In sixty they were
defending national champions and then I'm not winning it, but
j Wickson threw oh hitter. They were the only pitchers
to throw a no hitter in the Men's College World

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Series until today. Gage Wood becoming the third and junior
right hander and expected to be a high draft choice.
He set the record for strikeouts in a nine inning
game as well, with nineteen. He only allowed one base
runner when he hit Dom Decker in the back foot

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on a two to two breaking ball in the eighth inning,
and that's the only base runner. Wood then got a
foul out, consecutive strikeouts in the inning and went on
and won. So congratulations to him. Arkansas, remember lost to
LSU on Saturday night, so they're still in the loser's

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bracket in the elimination round, and they're gonna have to
win another elimination game. They're gonna have win two. They
would have to win three more elimination games to reach
the national championship because now they will take on the
loser of tonight's game between LSU and UCLA. They would

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have to win that game, and then whichever team wins
that game tonight between LSU and UCLA, Arkansas would have
to beat twice then, because the winner of tonight's game
is still unbeaten. Just like on the other side of
the bracket or the other bracket, they have two different brackets.
Coastal Carolina is two and oh. They defeated Arizona on Friday,

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and then yesterday last night got to win over Oregon State,
so Coastal two and oh and then one went away
from playing for the national championship. Louisville and Oregon State
will play an elimination game tomorrow and then the loser
will have to beat the excuse me, the winner of

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that game will have to beat Coast of Carolina twice
to reach the championship. So anyway, and as a result
of that, Arkansas is still alive and uh they will
have to play the loser of that game between uh
U c L A n L s U. So there

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is the story there. All right. Do you know what
a Toughs University mascot is? No? I do not Jumbo
the elephant. Okay, all right, all right, jumbo? What what's
the mascot name? Are they? The Jumbos are the elephants?

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Are the elephant? Yeah? They are a d D three
program now now they are uh huh yeah, you know
there the Jumbos the jump. That's cool. And their mascot
logo is an elephant, is an elephant? Very cool, that's
pretty cool. They were Division one in baseball. There were
several teams JOm Bowes. There were several teams that at

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one time were Division one and played in the College
World Series that no longer are Division I programs. Like
you mentioned Tufts's Division three. There's others that are Division
two programs. Now there's another team that played for a
national championship at the College World Series. If my memory

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serves me correctly from reading about the history in pretty
sure this is nineteen fifty four Missouri won the National Championship,
the only time the Tigers had won the College World Series.
I think Hygh Simmons was the coach, But anyway, they
won a nineteen fifty four and it beat a college
called Rollins to win it. Rollins, I think is an

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Tampa or down in South Florida and their team name
is the tars Ta r S. Rollins is now Division three,
but they were Division one and got to the National
Championship in nineteen fifty four before they lost. So anyway,

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there's some baseball trivia for you. Okay, speaking of baseball,
what a huge deal yesterday made between the Red Sox
and the Giants. Raphael Devers, three time All Star, traded
from the Red Sox to the Giants. And this was
the guy that was kind of looked at as being
a franchise cornerstone. San Francisco of course, needs some offensive help.

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They've had a lot of injuries. But here's what Boston
gets in return. Left handed starter Kyle Harrison, right hander
Jordan Hicks, outfield prospects James Tibbs the third and rookie
league right hander Jose Bellow. Also, the Giants are going
to cover the rest of devers contract that runs through
twenty thirty three and will pay him more than two

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hundred and fifty million dollars. Harrison, one of the guys
in the tray, Kyle Harrison, was on his way to
the bullpen to start warming up for the game against
the Dodgers last night, and then a can you come
to the clubhouse? Went to the clubhouse, I was told
you've been traded to Boston. Sam Sean Jelly was the

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pitcher and he was a reliever, and he was told
about thirty minutes before the first pitch that he would start.
Bob Melvin's quote was, yeah, it was a lot and
it was late, but you know what, this is something
we really needed to get a guy like Devers. There's
a lot you have to give up for him, but
this fits us perfectly. It's a power, left handed bat,

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a guy that can go the other way and hit
for power in our ballpark. I mean it's tailor made
for us. So kudos to the front office to swing
this then also ends the relationship between Devers and the
Red Sox front office, which had grown really strained and
just in some sid broken over time because Devers did

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not want to move off a third base. Remember, the
Red Sox signed Alex Bregman, and Devers did not want
to leave third. He's more of a defensive liability, however,
at third, certainly than Bregman, and the Red Sox didn't
tell him in advance to any of that. He agreed, Okay, fine,

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I'll be the DH. Wasn't happy with that. Then Tristan
Cassis in May had a season ending injury, so the
Red Sox asked him to move to first base. He
refused to do it, suggesting that the front office should
do their jobs and find another player. After the organization

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told him during spring training he would be the DH
for the rest of the year. So the day after
he made those comments, the owner John Henry, along with
the president Sam Kennedy, and the chief baseball officer Craig
breslow All flew to Kansas City, Boston was playing to
talk with Devers and he was like, no, I don't
want to play first. In the week since then, his

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refusal to play first led to internal tension. It helped
facilitate the deal. Willia Domas, the Giant shortstop, said, everybody
around the league I think was paying attention to that.
When any team is having some kind of drama like
that with a player like Devers. He basically was a
face of the franchise, so San Francisco made the deal.
Devers currently is batting two seventy two fifteen homers fifty

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eight runs batted d that's tied for the most in
his most in the Major leagues, and over his nine
year career, he's batting two seventy nine lifetime. It's Keith
Morland's lifetime batting average in the Major leagues two seventy
nine over thirteen years, two hundred and fifteen hom or
six hundred ninety six RBIs. So you know, the Red

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Sox believed him enough to give him a ten year,
three hundred and thirteen million dollar contract extension in January
of twenty twenty three, almost three years ago. And he
won the Silver Slugger that year in twenty three, made
his third All Star team last year in twenty twenty four.
Now it's going to be interesting to see what's going

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on where he plays for the Giants, because you know
they have a Gold Glover in that Chapman. But Chapman
has been out injured. He just got a six year,
one hundred fifty one million dollar deal last year. But
Buster Posey, of course is the president of Baseball Operations,
and he said, well, we'll have to have a conversation. See,

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but so he's going to Devers. Devers is going to
San Francisco, and then the Red Sox are getting a
lot of young guys and but it is you know,
it's one of those deals where did you give up
too much to do it? And some folks liking it
to the Luca Dodgets trade, although if we're being completely

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honest here, I would say the Red Sox got more
in exchange for Devers than the Mavericks got in exchange
for Luca. Yep, and we tried. Now. I mean, now,
if Anthony Davis can get through a whole season healthy
and return to the All Star form and all that stuff,
maybe a change it. Plus they've got that first round

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draft pick coming on down the line. But those are
ifs right now to see you know where where Ad
is going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I think the biggest difference here is that the mAbs
trade with Luca. I would say lucas I was top
five player. I don't know if Devers is top five
or not, but that was a trade that kind of
stemmed from the front office, the GMS not liking Luca
and not thinking they could win a champion hip, thinking that, Okay,

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we can win a championship by by playing defense, Anthony
Davis whatever. The Red Sox. This is an organization that
has been run so poorly since the new owners took
over that really only seemed to care about spending less money.
And interesting to note, I don't know if you believe
in leaving coincidences, Craig, but the ownership group that owns

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the Red Sox also I believe, owns Liverpool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
They just signed a new club record deal for Florin
Wortz from buyer Leverkusen this past I think it was
three days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I was excited about it. I'm a Liverpool fan, Okay,
I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Congratulations. So they make that signing and then this trade happens. Now,
of course you can point to, you know, the blow
up over Devor's not wanting to play first base, and
I know if you saw his comments, I don't hope
they could be fair.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Said the front office needs to do their job and
and get somebody in the here who can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
And then he's apparently he said today with the Giants
that he'll play any position, including first day, which is
which is an excellent, excellent comment to to say the
clap back at the Red Sox after the trade. But
this kind of seems like an organization here that just
wants to I know, they signed Bregman.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
And they gave to Evers three hundred thirteen million a
year and a half ago or two years ago. But
also the same organization that treated Mookie Betts, and it's
the same organization for no reason at all, fired their
play by play guy Dona Orcillo, who's one of the
best in the business. I say no reason at all.

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Here's the reason. John Henry was friends with Dave O'Brien
and he wanted to he wanted to bring him in.
So Donna Orsillo gets moved out, and immediately the Padres
signed him. So he's been the TV voice of the
Padres specially and he is outstanding. He's one of the best.
He's really really good, and everybody was just shocked that

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they dumped don Orsilo. Obviously in the announcer game. I
hear of some aze things and read about these things,
but it's I couldn't believe that they thought that that
was And again, David Brin's an ESPN personality and he's
an accomplished veteran pro. Nothing wrong with his game at all.

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It's just there was nothing wrong with donal Rosilo's game
other than the fact that the owner one wanted O'Brien
to do it. So Don is happy and he's out
in San Diego and he's doing the Padres and Davi
o brian's doing the Red Sox. I'm talking about their
local TV or regional Sports Network TV package on that.
All right, We've got some more Major League Baseball info

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to get to. We'll do that when we continue here
on thirteen Out of the Zone here on this Monday afternoon,

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I'm thirteen under the zone. Big story of the day
the no hitter thrown at the College World Series by
Gage Wood and a lot only one base runner, a
hit batter leading off the bottom of the eighth for
Murray State, otherwise struck out nineteen of the twenty eight
batters he faced, and ten of those came recorded by strikeouts,

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So it was it was excuse me, nineteen of the
strikeouts out of the nineteen eleven were by fastballs, so
a heck of a job there. Arkansas stays alive. Murray
State season ends at forty four to seventeen, and now
Arkansas moves on, still alive, they play the loser of

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the winners bracket game tonight between LSU and UCLA. LSU
beat Arkansas Lastaturday night. Ucla is undefeated so far in
the College World Series. They have yet to drop a game,
so they'll play LSU tonight and a loser of that
game will play an elimination game against Arkansas. And that

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one okay. Major League Baseball I mentioned the huge deal
the Giants trading Roeck Faeld Devers are trading for roe
Faeld Devers with the Red Sox. It really stunned a
lot of people. Four players in exchange. The Red Sox
get Kyle Harrison, they get right hander Jordan Hicks, They
get outfilled prospect James Tibbs. The third, they get rookie

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league right hand Rose Bello and the Giants. This had
to be a major consideration with the Red Sox. The
Giants are going to pick up the rest of his contract,
which runs through twenty thirty three, and it's going to
pay him more than two hundred and fifty million dollars.
So to your point, Cam the Red Sox who are
throwing nickels around like manhole covers these days as well

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as they say, squeeze and nickel until the buffalo defecates,
you know that kind of thing watching their Nichols who
pretty much did the deal with the Dodgers to unload
Lookie Brett Bat's money, and that turned out to not
be good. I mean, they don't even have uh, the

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best player out of that deal that came to them anymore.
Forgetting his name, I remember the outfielder, Uh, he has
moved on. But in any event, they they unloaded a
lot of salary. Jason Verdugo, Yeah, that's who I was
thinking of.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
And they have spent. It's not like they're the Rockies
who aren't paying anything. They spent, but they were the Marlins.
It's been weird contracts like Bragman, like Trevor's story.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
I don't know. I'm not to diss on him, but
maybe people the Dodger killer when he was in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Be wary of the guy who puts up great numbers
in a ballpark like corse Field, and then you get
him away from Corsfield and all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
He's not hitting like he was in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Well, what's the you know, what's the elevation at Fenway
compared the course field. You know, they're paying Walker Bueller
as you know, a very well paying Chapman, like ten
million dollars. We mentioned the Dever's contract, which now they
off floaded Mookie Betts, which you know they offloaded. It's
it's weird spending where you're spending on guys and then
the mentally, actually, you know, what we don't want to

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do is anymore. But then next year they may sign
someone to a weird con The funny thing is, Craig
they it's only five games, but that is the longest
win streak in Major League Baseball. They are one game
over five hundred six and a half back from New York.
But yeah, so they celebrated sweeping one of the best teams.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Never sit a home run.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Yesterday they celebrated that by hey, you know, we beat
the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
We're playing too good. Let's go ahead and trade away Raphael.
You know, one of the rumors and uh and a
lot of extensive reporting was done by Jeff Passon of
ESPN who I think is really good outstanding baseball writer.
He got a chance to meet him at the Sportscaster
and Sportswriter banquet last year when I went up there,

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uh last year to get my award. He was honored
as the top sports Writer sports Writer of the Year,
and UH visited with him and uh he by the way,
he loves our man, Jean Watson. He and Geno go
back aways. They know each other really well. But Jeff Passon,
who covered this trade intricately, said some wrote some similar

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things to what you just said. The Red Sox have
made some deals that look pretty good, and then some
are like what are they doing? And for now, for
now the Devers deal is going into the what are
they doing? Category, So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
I don't know, it's it's it's hard to figure out
what's some of these. It's like the Orlando Magic trade,
you know, trading for Desbond Bane and giving up you know,
four draft picks and Colbell, Pope and Cole Anthony and
even kind of that. It's like, okay, you know, you're
they're trying to offload some money for Desmond Bane, who's

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maybe a top fifty player, but at the same time,
and they give up four draft picks. You know, it's
a lot for Boston. You know, you lose Devers, and yeah,
you get back a couple of guys, you know, some
rotation guys. But uh, you know, huh like is it?
It's it's not going to move the needle.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Right and and uh, going back to Jeff Passing and
in the Red Sox, Jeff reported a week ago and uh,
we talked about this, well was early last week. And
I think I can't remember if you had already left town.
You may have already left town. Uh. Where he was
listing the likeliest possible trade situations for those teams that

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are buyers versus the sellers. And then there's those who
are waiting. The Dodgers are almost always going to be
looked into the buying category. They're always trying to look
especially a team that has fourteen that's right, fourteen pitchers
on the injured list right now. It's crazy more than
anybody else. Fourteen. Now, there is hope that they might

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get em at Chean back pretty soon, that Blake Snell
might be returning before the All Star break. Tyler Glass
now maybe after the All Star break. They've been encouraged
by what they've seen from Clayton Kershaw's last who starts
two wins, especially Saturday night, he had seven shutout innings

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against the Giants. He looked as good as he'd looked
in years, did Kershaw, and got the win on that
He's so that helps, But they're still running out bullpen
games and that's what they're going to do tonight. What
I started to say is that passing mentioned in the
trade rumor market, one of the possible trade partners believe

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it or not, that the Dodgers may wind up with
is Boston again and they may be looking at a
deal to bring Walker Buller back to La That it
could happen depending on how Boston is if they're in
the buyer or seller market, this is a huge deal.
We'll see how it affects the Red Sox going forward.
In the meantime, the Dodgers are looking at another bullpen

(01:29:33):
game tonight, but it'll be a little bit different as
to who's starting. Shoe Aotani will go to the Mound
to night for Los Angeles, his long awaited return to pitching. Remember,
he hasn't pitched in almost two years, twenty one months
removed from that second repair of the owner collateral ligament,

(01:29:53):
Tommy John surgery. He's had rehab starts, he's had sim games,
as they call them, simulated games. This will be kind
of right in that wheelhouse, although it will be in
an actual game and against a team that's hot on
their heels in the division, the San Diego Padres. The
Dodgers took two or three from the Padres in San

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Diego last week. Now they played them four times this
week after having the big series with the Giants just completed.
The Giants actually caught them by beating La on Friday
night for first and then the Dodgers won Saturday and
then won last night. So the backup by two games
almost San Francisco and San Diego. So now they play
the Padres and Otani's going to go to the mound

(01:30:36):
and start tonight, probably only going to pitch one inning,
maybe two if he gets a really quick inning. But
it's just kind of a continuation of the rehab. And
how excited are you? Is this the most excited you've
been for regular season game? No, but curious, very curious.
I will be more excited if I see Snell or

(01:30:59):
Glass now come back healthy, and look effective. Because this
is a long ramp up process for Otani. I don't
see him being in a competitive pitching, multi inning thing
until probably the All Star Breaker, maybe even after. I
was more excited to see Kershall look more like his

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old self the other night and throw seven shutout innings
against the Giants. Dude's thirty seven years old, and he
looked like he was twenty seven. He looked really really good.
Curveball was devastating, slider was good. Fastball pretty decent for
a guy on the back side of his thirties to
still be hitting ninety one regular not bad. The way
he can mix the curve and the slider do well.

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I get excited when he's healthy enough to pitch more
than one, maybe two innings. Absolutely, I've seen him pitch
in the past. Lindon and I watched him pitch for
the Angels against the Braves a few years ago. We
stopped off in Atlanta on our way back from North Carolina.
So yeah, I'll be excited when the time comes. I'm

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curious about tonight. He threw forty four pitches over the
course of three simulated innings at Petco Park last Tuesday.
Our good friend Geen Watson. His son Tyler works for
the Potterys organization, so they all got to see what
was going on on both sides. Everybody was watching him

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work out on Tuesday, and he had a lot of
command in that, so it's it's kind of a weird deal.
The logistics are a factor because he has a two
way designation. He qualifies as an extra pitcher on the roster,
which gives the Dodgers the flexibility to use a piggyback
starter behind him, which is probably gonna be Ben Casparius.

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They're ramping him up to being a starter, so those
sim games and and by the way, uh, they're gonna
they're gonna say, I've already been asked by several people, Well,
what's gonna happen? Is he gonna dha It's gonna be
like what we've seen in college baseball, a lot pitcher
slash DH. He can be fill both both roles, and
after one or two innings, however many innings he throws,

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he'll come off the mound. Probably Casparis would be the
next in line to pitch for La and then Otani's
just the DH, which you can do as long as
it's listed that way and he's listed in the lineup.
That way is pitcher slash DH, because otherwise, uh, if
you don't do it that way, and you and you
play a regular DH and then he bats as pitcher,

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you're gonna do like what I saw when I was
calling uh the UIL State Baseball Championships a couple of
weeks ago for television. In one game, the first baseman
didn't bat because you had a pitcher and a DH.
In the second game, the third baseman didn't bat because
you had a pitcher in the DH. That's not how
they're gonna do this. So they're going to do this

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like what we've seen, Uh, like what we saw on
Paul Skins pitched here for Airs in the regional against Texas,
he was pitcher slash d H. And that's what they'll
do with Otani. They'll work it that way. We'll see
how it is ultimately on down the road. But Dave
Roberts said, his quote was he's ready to pitch in
a major league game. He said, he let us know that. So,

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like I said, fourteen pitchers are on the injured list,
including four starters. They were really looking forward to having
Blake Snell Tyler Glass. Now a lot of money tied
up on those guys. Roki Sasaki, the guy that got
from Jupan, and Tony Gonslin just came back from injury,
but he's got more more injury woes. So anyway, we'll

(01:34:41):
see Alan goes tonight. All right, We've got more coming up,
some football notes when we continue on thirteen under the
Zone before move on to an NFL note that I

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know will interest Cameron Parker. There was one other show,
Aotani note, and it has nothing to do with the
fact that he will be making his first start on
the mound as a Dodger tonight. No. No, remember his
former interpreter, Gifty miss O'Hara. He is now in federal

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prison as of today in Pennsylvania. A spokesperson, a spokesperson
for the Federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed this. Missahara ordered
to surrender to federal authorities today. He's in custody at
Federal Correctional Institution Alan Woodlow, that's a low security facility.

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Sentenced to fifty seven months, so it's just slightly under
five years. He got for stealing nearly seventeen million dollars
from Otani Missahara was initially ordered to report to prison
in March, federal judge granted the delay. The reasons for
the delay are still unsealed. His attorney declined a request

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for comment, but he did previously state that he expects Missahara,
who's a Japanese citizen, to eventually be deported. And of course,
he got fired in March of last year after that
ESPN investigation revealed he sent millions in wire transfers from
Otani's account to an illegal bookmaker. He pleaded guilty to

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bank fraud and filing a false tax return in twenty
twenty four, admitting that he placed about nineteen thousand debts
with that bookie of her two year period and accumulated
over forty million dollars in debt. The bookmaker, Matthew Boyer,
pleaded guilty in August to running an illegal gambling business,

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money laundering, and subscribing a false tax return. He's a
waiting sensing. Both of those guys said, O'tani knew nothing
about it, and I know there's a lot of especially
fans of other teams Baseball's covering for Otani. Yeah, yeah,
there's that federal investigator said everything they turned up showed
that o'tani knew nothing about this, and the language barrier

(01:37:26):
had a lot to do with it, with what was
going on with the booking, not with his ee, his
his interpreter, that he kept things from him. So anyway,
Ippi is a horror is now in prison in Pennsylvania.
On that, Okay, Now the other story wanted to get

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to do you watch much of those shows in the morning, like,
get up now? I can't handle it? All right? What
about first take? No?

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
And let me ask are you talking about because I
saw something on Twitter that was freaking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
This is where I'm going with This is where I'm going.
I think it was on first take. Yes, they're all
the same first taking. It's the same thing. Stephen A.
Smith yelling is mad dog yelling, everyone yelling yah, lots
of yelling, lots of yelling. Yes it is. So, here's
Dak Prescott. I find the picture. I'll put it up

(01:38:30):
on our stream for those. Yeah it was somebody. Uh oh,
I think it was our old Powell. Clarence Hill covers
the cowboys who tweeted out of gas. Why for God's
sake is this even a story? And and so the
guys from First Take are all around the table and
they're talking about Dak Prescott. Now, let me say this.

(01:38:53):
If here we are in June and so many camps
are underway and all this stuff mandatory mini camps, We're
a month away from training camps opening. So I don't
see any problem with programs like that or any other
NFL analysis saying, Hey, the Cowboys getting ready to what

(01:39:13):
do you think about Dak Prescott blah blah Blah's entering
his ten season, so on and so forth. Nothing wrong
with that, Absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's a topic
to talk about. What is not a topic I don't think.
Apparently some others are as well, is the fact that
because Dak has had the second longest tenure as a

(01:39:39):
quarterback in franchise history, behind only Troy Aikman, longer tenure
than Roger Stallbach, Don Meredith, Tony Romo, Danny White, anybody
else you want to add in there. Because of that,
the topic came up, I guess on that show and

(01:40:00):
it was what is Dak Prescott's legacy? We're like, excuse me,
what what legacy? What do you mean legacy? He turns
thirty two next month, so uh, And of course I
mentioned only eight men's had a longer run of that position.

(01:40:23):
Only eight men and Staubach have won super Bowls. They're
the only two quarterbacks who have won super Bowls at
quarterback for the Cowboys. They're the only two. Oh, Craig Morton,
we had a chance with Super Bowl five. You know,
Romo never got there, never even played in an NFC
Chance Conference championship game. So so Prescott was asked about

(01:40:46):
this thing, and somebody asked them if that would be
part of his legacy, if he could get them to
a super Bowl, and he said he wants to go
to a super Bowl, but not because of anything that
has anything to do with legacy. Vote. Yeah, I want
to win a championship. This is what he said after
the off season program finished on Thursday. The legacy, the things,

(01:41:08):
whatever comes after I finished playing, will take care of itself.
I want to win a championship, but damned if it's
just for my legacy, or if it's for this team,
for my personal being, for my sanity, yeah, the legacy
will take care of itself. I have to stay where
my feet are good for him, that's just it's just silly, stupid,
things that they that that would have to be a

(01:41:32):
topic of conversation. And so what it does is invariably
begs the question who comes up with that topic? Not
Stephen A. I don't think that's that's a producer thing.
Have a list of topics, and then probably their meetings. Well,
you know Dak Prescott, here's a SoundBite he had and
they probably had the SoundBite from at the end of

(01:41:52):
the mandatory mini camp thing. Yeah, I have a legacy
because some dumb ass reporter asked him and they think, oh,
you know, you're the only one. Uh you know, Eigman's
the only one. Do you want to what do you
what do you think your legacy should be. It's like,
come on, come on, quit asking dumb questions. So anyway,

(01:42:13):
they pick it up probably and ran with it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
The two biggest things that fuel get up in first
take with the Dallas Cowboys, Yeah, and Lebron and the
Lakers always the two times, even today. First take was
on while I was at the gym and they were
going through their segments, you know, talking about the NBA Finals,
and I was surprised, and I watched number three the Eagles. Eagles, Yes, surprised,

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not to see any Lebron talk while they were talking
about the finals. But the conversation is is Sga a
Hall of Famer? And it was like, we have Game
five tonight, game five of a critical series, and we're like,
who cares whether or not Shay is a Hall of Famer?
I know he's an MVP player in this whole Hall
of Fame stuff I think is overblown, especially with basketball,

(01:42:59):
but like, what is the conversation here? And then the
next the next discussion was, okay, what does two and
two say this? Two and two say more about the
Pacers or the Thunder, like like, so you're gonna downplay? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
See I started to say both that they both have
played well enough to win a game on the road.
That old phrase about a series doesn't start at best
of seven until a road team wins a game. Well,
it started with game one and then it continued with
what the Thunder did the other night. It's a series
and it may go seven. I hope it does, no
matter who wins. I'd love to see a game seven.

(01:43:34):
I'd love to see game seven the Stanley Cup playoffs.
I don't think that's happening. I think Florida finishes it tomorrow,
but I'd love to see it. I just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
I guess maybe just to the average viewer just cares
more about those conversations first six. For me, I care
more about, you know, getting Tim Legler on and say, Okay,
what adjustments yeah, does Indiana need to make to win
this game? Or what adjustments did you see from okay
seeing the fourth quarter last night that changed the series?

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
You know, what is Shaye doing?

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Nope, it's about Hey, if Shae wins, is he top
five all time? Is he top ten all time? Like
we can Why can't we do all of those lists
later on in the offseason and there's nothing else going on?

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Right? Totally good. Yeah, We'll be back to wrap up
today's program on thirteen under the Tone