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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glad to have you with us here on sports Radio
AM thirteen hundred the Zone, and pleasee as always to
be joined by my broadcast partner on long worn football
and also long corn baseball, and certainly helps us out
also on long worn men's and women's basketball. That's Roger Wallace, who,
for his day job, is the sports director at kate
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x A. I'm trying to remember. It would be silly
to ask you if you'd ever been to the state
of Kentucky. You grew up in the adjoining state across
the Ohio River.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So did you spend a.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Lot of time in Kentucky when you were growing up
and younger and all that?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You know, Craig, I was a couple of years away
from being a UK kid.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Really.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
My dad was a professor at University of Kentucky, and
then he got the job at Miami University shortly before
I was born.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I have a brother and a sister, both born in Lexington.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's a long way of saying no, I haven't spent
much time there. Went there with women's basketball, and I
drove through Lexington many years ago on the way to
Knoxville for an NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
But spent very little time in Lexington.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So you haven't been inside of Kroger Field or what
used to be called Commonwealth Stadium back in the day.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I tried to get inside Rupp Arena when we were there,
but I could get as close as the concourse.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And they wouldn't let me in because the women don't
play at REP.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, yeah, you went up there to call that one
and I was up for baseball would keep Morland back
in May, so neither of us submitting that stadium. But
I would have to imagine your take on all of
this is that this football team must feel pretty good,
not only about what they accomplished, but I guess kind
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of getting back on track. And I know you had
a conversation visit with Sark today about being able to
you know, get in the right moving in the right
direction just in time for two true road games.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah yeah, And I think what he's hoping is that
they're buying what he's selling, and that's you know, wipe
away Oklahoma and build on Oklahoma, because he made no
bones about it. Last week was a different week, especially
with the rivalry combined with what happened at Florida. Then
the celebration that's not a normal celebration, that's not a
normal postgame celebration like any other game.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And then you know, you got to get right back
at it.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
For a Kentucky team that you probably look at them
and go, okay, twelve and a half point favorites, they
are zero to three in the SEC, and then you
dive a little deeper and you realize, Okay, they played
Ole Miss really close at home, and they're only SEC
home game, and they certainly have some weapons.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
And then you just throw in the night game.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
SEC Texas's first ever visit, and like, I'm sure you're
thinking it's going to be quite a battle Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The other thing that comes to mind in looking at
the matchups of these two teams, one is that the
Texas offensive line really stepped up, did the job that
they had to do last week. And they're still not
completely healthy, not completely I would say, a you know
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whatever lean mean, fighting machine in other words, all connected,
but they were last Saturday. Now they don't have Cole
Hudson on the field. We know that from the injury reports,
So Connor Robertson's gonna step in there. And then there's
been this just a variety of other guys who've been
asked to step in, be backups, to go into the rotation.
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Nick Brooks certainly comes to mind. We may even see
one or two guys. Sark kind of hinted this to
me last night. We may see one or two guys
who get in the rotation on Saturday night on the
offensive front, that we haven't even called their names this season. So,
I mean, I guess that speaks to the confidence he
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has from what he sees on the practice field that
whoever he's going to put out there can be productive.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I think what we saw with Nick Brooks from
Florida to Oklahoma speaks to the fact that these guys
need a chance to grow, whether it's in practice or
live reps. But yeah, I think at this time of
the year we kind of dismiss practice as anything other
than getting ready for the next game, getting looks from
the scout team, as Sark says, getting the plays they
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like in the plays they don't like out But to
your point, I think it's also still about growth and
development and not number knowing when your numbers called. I mean,
suddenly James Simon went from all, we'd like to get
him some touches to oh, he's probably going to get
some touches because Jarrett Gibson decided to step away. So
they only have three running backs full time running backs
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on scholarship right now that they'll roll out there on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
So yeah, he says.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It every year, Craig and I don't know if we
buy it, but he tells his guys they better be ready.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And I think we're seeing another example.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, and the other thing.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It'll be a spoiler alert for Long Worn fans who
tuned in to Long Run Weekly tonight. Chad Scott, the
running backs coach, was on with us, and they both
acknowledged that they might need more out of Ryan Niblett
in the running back position. He said, he's in the
running back room now, and of course he's in every room,
isn't he with to pump returns and receivers.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
He was a dB in the spring.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I mean, Ryan Niblett's kind of the kind of what
the X factor guy.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, no doubt. Now he's in the backfield.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think you expect him to, you know, maybe be
a motion guy, maybe a screen guy, an occasional handoff
and then today is started zoom. He talked about Michael Terry,
the freshman from San Antonio who has been working scout
running backs, so he's not sure if he's gonna be
ready for, you know, any kind of reps in a
ball game. But that's another name, big name recruit, waiting
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his turn, and all of a sudden, he's a guy
being mentioned. Is maybe they could get him ready towards
the end of the season if I haven't forbidded, if
they have any more attrition.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The other guy.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
The other thing I was going to bring up about
this matchup that's kind of flying a little bit under
the radar is Kentucky's quarterback, Cutter Bowley. He's a red
shirt freshman, and it's almost like he's being described as
a kid in his first year in the program, and
it's not. But it is his first year as the
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bona fide starter. He had a couple of starts, just
like arch Manning did last year, and he got into
the game against Texas and was ten of eighteen for
one hundred and sixty yards.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That got in the start against Louisville after that.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So Mark Dubs likes this guy.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And when we were visiting with Tom Leetzer, played by
Playboys history. He kind of almost compares him to if
there's a I guess, you know a better way to
describe it. I guess he just says he's he's kind
of laid back surfer dude, kind of you know, a
lanky guy and not much seems to bother him a
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little bit. He'll be an interesting watch on Saturday Night.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well because of what he did here, I'm sure they
like the fact that he's had a little success. And
it's funny because last year when Kentucky came in, I mean,
Texas blitzed them. And I've got some friends that I
used to work with here that are now in Lexington
and they said one thing that came out of that
ballgame is they think they found their quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It wasn't quite as smooth and that assent as they
had hoped from the Texas game on out. But yeah,
to your point, Zat Calzada, who's been around the block
and including his stuff in college station, started the first
two ballgames and now Bully is their guy. So yeah,
he's a big guy. He's had a little success against Texas.
I think Texas wants to build on what they did
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to a much more nimble jometerier And that's really good
after Saturday.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, And what I was looking for was the way
it was described to me by Tom Leach.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And then I countered with this, He's kind of.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
A poor man's Hunter Lawrence, a guy who's lanky, tall, uh,
kind of has longer hair. Not much seems to bother him,
and and goes out of it. And and and some
of those guys, what does they used to say about
the triumph of the uncluttered mind? Uh, those things like that.
Guys go out there and just play and let it rip.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think every quarterback to a certain extent, or every
coach to a certain extent, wants their quarterback to play uncluttered.
And you know, I think maybe we're seeing a little
bit more of Arch Manning doing that as well as
he he progresses.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Visiting with Roger Wallace from k x A N and
our long Horn Radio Network broadcast partner, are okay, I
want to I want to talk a little bit of
high school football with you, because you have a game
tonight that that if if folks looked at it and
just said Okay, it's a couple of two and four
teams that are winless in district play. They kind of
walk away from him and not really think that much
about it. But this is the time of year that
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I start paying a great deal of attention to because
of the possibility of what can happen for teams trying
to jockey for playoff position. Anybody that looks at eight
five a Division one is going to see that the
two teams that are unbeaten in that district are Georgetown
and Eastview and they play tomorrow night, and that's a
that's a big game in the computer says it's a
pick them.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It likes them much.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Then you've got Cedar Park and Belton are both two
and one in the district, as is Leander. Okay, Cedar
Park is playing Glen who is winless in the district.
Lake Belton is playing Leander. And then you've got the
game that you have Rows and Chaparral. Both teams are
two and four, both teams are zero and three. It's
kind of an elimination game, a playoff to stay in
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the playoff race, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And I think they're pretty drastically differenth to three rows
has been right there. We had them last Friday night
on Our Takes Same Plus game and it was a
two point game.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Maybe it wasn't that close with Georgetown they cut it
to two.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
But they're two and four and they've been outscored by
a total of eight points this season. So they've played
some tough ballgames. They've lost tough ones. They beat Liberty
Hill uh in Week two. They've had a top heavy
schedule in the district.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But I think, you know, it might come down.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
To I think they have East View still as the
one big hurdle. If they can, you know, get by
that one, I think I think they'll take care of business.
And I wouldn't rule them out at Oen three still
making I think it would be their seventh straight trip
to the postseason.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well, you're right, because after tonight's game, they certainly have
a winnable game at Leander and and by the way,
the computer does like uh rolese significantly tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But uh playing it at home now, they're they're they're
playing their home games at Gupton, aren't they this year? Yep,
they moved there this year away from Bible, So they're
playing at Gupton. So after that, uh, they played Leander
and that will be at Bible, then they're at Eastview
and then they finish at home against Glenn and though
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those are all winnable games, so you're right, they just
can't afford to slip up. And he and Josh Ban's
teams are usually very well prepared anyway. And the Chaparral team,
which is kind of a new kid on the block,
haven't been around very long. I won a couple of
games early, but like you said, it's a little bit
different Owen three. Look when you look at chaparale as
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opposed to Rows, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, they are, and like you said, they're in the
fourth years of varsity. They're Coach Tyrone mccraig came in.
He's in his second year. But he's like in his
as he says, one point five because he came in.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
July before the twenty four season.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That's almost unheard of to be a head named a
head coach in July before a season. So yeah, he's
just trying to get his footing with that program. We've
seen in Central Texas so many schools, and they can
do it and hurry, they can become competitive in a
short amount of time. And I'm sure he thinks they
have the resources and things like that, but I think
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they're just a little bit under man. I mean, Logan
Morgan's a London Morgan rather is a really exciting quarterback
from Rowse Kids headed to Navy.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
He's fearless and he can do a lot of different things.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
They've got some players, and they've got some weapons on
offense and Sheeperral's gonna have a tough time slowing them
down tonight.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I'm sure you know they're.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Chomping at the bed after that to three starting district
play to get after it.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Roger, I know you kept track of this as well.
We keep track of what's going on in the other
playoff races. In twenty five six A is going to
be kind of crazy in a mess and what a
great job Scott Hermis has done and McNeil to have
them in position. That's going to be one of one
of the ones to watch. And then, and you've heard
me talk about it. Thirteen to four A Division one
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where LBJ is obviously the team to beat, but Taylor's
kind of turned its season around. They're three and four overall,
but they're three and zero in the district. They're off
this week and they have this huge game next week
against east Side Memorial, who's two and one in the
district and probably has a good chance to beat Northeast.
And if they beat Northeast, then their one went away
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from for sure getting into the playoffs, if not getting
into it anyway, that would be one of the stories
of the year. What if east Side which has been
had so many difficulties and even as recent as two
or three years ago, we were talking about whether they
would even score a point in the season. Now they're
on the verge of maybe making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, and we see that with with Aid teams that
you know traditionally are down and part of is just
the numbers game.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
They have a hard time getting enough numbers.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And you even see at the six A level with
a program like Aikins that you know they started out
four and oh that match their their highest win total
in school history. Now they have made the playoffs with
four wins before. But yeah, certainly that's the case there.
And uh with east Side, pretty cool, pretty cool story there.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Big game also with Liberty Hill and Flugerville, that's that's
that's the one I would be calling if Texas had
a home game, but since we're on the road, our
friend Ted Emerck will call it on victory. Plus, that's
a big game here because bow teams, as you've seen,
can get the ball up and down the field, and
bow teams can give up some yards and points.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And you know, we had the Conley Liberty Hill game,
and Liberty Hill it was kind of the ultimate slot
tea game. They s or ten touchdowns on twelve possessions.
The other two possessions they fumbled and they didn't throw
a pass. So that's, you know, kind of a blueprint
maybe to the extreme. And Cole Taylor obviously likes to
throw it up just about every down for Flugerville, and they'll,
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like you said, they'll move the ball as well. Probably
with Liberty Hills when they get rolling, it's kind of
like arena football.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You just got to get a couple of stops.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You got to brick Serve a couple of times because
they are so relentless with that offense.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But yeah, I think I think they might ring up
a few points in that ball game.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And one other team I want to ask you about
because you got him next week, and you've got a
pretty interesting matchup next week, Anderson against Hayes. And for
folks who don't know what Anderson's undefeated, they're six and oh,
they're four and oh in the district. They're probably gonna
go to seven h and five and oh because they're
playing Cedar Creek this week and they're probably gonna be
tim And then you got Hayes, who's two and two
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two in the district, and they're kind of in that
muddy part. They are three and one, three and two,
two and two, two and three. Uh, those teams that
are in there trying to sort their way through it.
And Hayes has a big road trip to play at
College Station, which is trying to turn its season around
as well. They're only three and four, but they're three
and two in the district. And that's going to be
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a huge game for you next week when Anderson takes
on Hayes.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, no doubt, And you know, full transparency, we have
exercised some flex moves with our schedule because we make
our schedule basically in July, and clearly, the way teams
and the way districts might look in July, it's gonna
be a lot different in September and October. So appreciate
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schools working with us and being able to change. And
that's one of the games we flexed into. You know,
Hayes is kicking themselves with that loss to Hendrickson on kvd.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
O several weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They were in control and that one pretty good, and
then Hendrickson got him. I lose forty one to forty
and you just rattled off the record. That's obviously a
huge swing game right there. So that's a big one.
We have Visa riche huddle down the stretch, which you
look at twenty five six day as you said and hudder.
We thought, okay, they were three and oh, but you
know who they played. Then they went and beat Round
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Rock at home. So now I was sitting at four
and oh. And then we closed with what we think
is going to be a really good one Anderson and
Weiss at the field. So we have a heavy dose
of Caleb Crenshaw and that Anderson offense that is sitting
pretty but they've got some tough ones ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You get to see the alpha and the omega of
Anderson this season, right starting with what used to be
the Taco Shack Bowl to Shoal Creek showdown against McCallum,
all the way back in week one there at the
end of August, and then see him in week eleven,
their tenth game of the regular season, and how that
team And you know this as well as I do.
These schools like Anderson, and to a greater extent, schools
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like the ones we talked about about the East Side or
some of the other ones are clearly affected by the
health of the team and the total numbers in the program.
And at least so far, it looks like the Trojans
have been able to stay relatively healthy.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, that's always one of the first questions. You know,
I'm sure you do the same thing, especially early in
the season. What are your numbers like? And Donald Hatcher's
done a great job of really building those numbers at Anderson.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
That's a program that said.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Struggled over the years, competing at whatever level, whether it
was five A or six A because of the numbers game.
Now they got some big fortunate over the off season
with the additions of Caleb Crenshaw and Jaheim Riley, outstanding
players at LBJ and those are two huge players for Anderson.
But yeah, you're right, staying healthy and having enough depth.
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And that's why we ask them about the middle school
and coaches are so quick to talk about the numbers
in the middle school program because that you know, they're
always looking. That's their idea for right, is what do
they have coming up through the pipeline in middle school?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
And Anders has done a really good job of building
up those numbers.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'd be remiss if I didn't ask for your thoughts
on Lake Travis at Dripping Springs tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I'm fascinated with that one. And you know Drip's answered
every call, right every time. Okay, is this a week
they're going to get beat? But what's a computer say
I would I would say it's a coin flip and
maybe close to.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
A coin flip if the computer likes Lake Travis by three?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Okay, yeah that makes sense. Yeah, he likes names. Are
they strictly on the data?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's strictly data from what I've been told about it.
It's whatever's fed into it. This is what it's spitting out.
So I guess we'll find out. Hey, I appreciate the
time seven o'clock tonight for the telecast, right right?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Thanks Greg?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Thanks, you bet all right.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, it is tonight on KBVO and it's a battle
really for playoff positioning. As Ralphs, we'll be in action
against Colleen Chaparral that game at Gumpton.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah,