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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Monday to you. If you're a Cowboys fan, say happy?
Am I half happy? Is it a half ass happy Monday?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the program here on
Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred zone here on this Monday afternoon.
My name is Craig Wait. Thanks so much for joining us.
We appreciate having you every day here. It is a
long worns Monday. We can tell you that we brought
you Steve Sarkisian's weekly news conference this morning at eleven o'clock.

(00:36):
And well, if you missed that, that's okay. A it
can be heard in its entirety from stem to stern
on a podcast page at AM thirteen hundred zone dot com.
But also we're going to bring it to you at
least in terms of its presentation, the answers that sarcad
to the questions in the Q and a formula. So

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we'll bring that to you coming up here in a
few minutes. There's a lot to get to clearly on
the program here, and among the topics to get to
college football of the past weekend, some really compelling finishes
and storylines developing out of that. We'll review some of
that the new AP Top twenty five and Coaches Bowl

(01:22):
Top twenty five rankings.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
We'll have that for you.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Will have Inconceivable this hour, which does have some sports
and then has some weird stuff, some rude behavior and
not even talking about the US fans at the Writer Cup.
That's kind of in its own category. But that's all
a part of Inconceivable. In the three o'clock hour, Cameron

(01:47):
Parker will join us Cam to we'll get his review
of the Writer.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Cup, speaking of not being happy about things.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
And the resident self loathing cow Boys fan that he
had that he is and has become.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
We'll get his review, his.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Take on it, as well as the Cowboys and Packers
wound up with a forty to forty tie.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
A tie.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
There's some interesting numbers to mention about that tie that
we'll get to a little later on. We of course
include the program the producer of the program, Jake Carman,
who joins us.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Now, you had a pretty busy weekend. I had your weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Go oh, it was a lot of fun. It's a
lot of fun, from the hardcore college football atmosphere to
the carnival like atmosphere of a Savannah Bananas game. Plus
of high school play by play kept this program on
the tracks on Friday afternoon, at least try my best to.
So it was pretty busy.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Good.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Good, Did you enjoy the hosting thing? I caught some
at the start and summ of the and in between
the things that I had to do on Friday, But
things sounded normal enough.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Busy day on
the text line. Had one texter try and extort fantasy
football from my home league. Really yeah, I ended up.
I ended up giving him the wrong advice and he
still beat me, and he still beat you. Oh he
it was bad.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Really.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
He had a lot of guys in that Dublin game.
I never had a chance.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I only had won in the Dublin game. Jordan Mason
didn't hurt me too much because I had mister George
Pickens last night.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
And you are a lucky man, and I got and I.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Had Omary in Hampton and I had Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Sounds like, No, Daniel's no problem for team Way.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
None at all.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, I think I think the guy I'm playing has
bo Nicks tonight, but I am like leading by more
than fifty points, so I'm probably gonna win.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Hey, at least I picked Alabama on the show.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
There you go, Look at you going with a crimson
tide on that. By the way, for folks who want
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We're glad to have your input is the we always are. Okay,
So where to begin. Well, the long runs do not
play Saturday, as we know, But there was college football.
You said you went with Alabama. You felt that they
wouldn't be able to go between the hedges and beat Georgia,
and that's exactly what they did.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah. I thought the running game would be the key.
Turns out it was Caitlin de Bor's version of the
running game, the short passes, just negating George's strength. I
thought it was actually a little similar to Ohio States
game plan against Texas, just getting the ball out extremely
quickly using Ty Simpson's legs. Well, Alabama's got a really
good receiver room too, and those guys were really able

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to just win one on one matchups.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I thought it's funny. Arch Banning came in today for
his Q and a session with the Medium. We'll hear
these comments from Arch tomorrow. But somebody asked him if
he I think did you watch any particular football over
the weekend or no. They asked him if he keeps
in touch with other SEC quarterbacks, and he mentioned specifically

(06:00):
at Nasmyer of l s U.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
He probably didn't text too much with him.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I also, I also picked them.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
You picked them to beat Ole Miss.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I took two road teams, got bit by one.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Okay, all right? And uh and he mentioned tie he
meant a mention. He meant, of course Ty Simpson of Alabama,
who led the Crimson. He said he was really excited
for him and the win that he got. So so
there was that.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, I thought Simpson was wonderful in that game. He
really was.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, he did. He played really well. Anybody knows Vanderbilts unbeaten.
There five of the first signing since two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I have, I certainly have that is that is a
legitimate SEC contender.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think, well, we're going to find out for sure
this week they go to Tuscaloosa. In fact, ESPN's College
Game Day will be there for some folks, uh Florida
State fans in specific kind of grumbling on on on X.
There's one guy that has a a Tommy Castellano's burner

(07:02):
account that has his name spelled slightly different. And he
was like, I can't believe the ESPN is going to
Vanderbilt for this game outnywhere. Like, first of all, it's Alabama.
They're going to Tuscaloosa. They're not going to Nashville. The
game's there, and the guy, the guy was just like
all over the road. He was like, and they said,
by the way, you lost Virginia last thurs He's look.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So it's still a top five matchup with Miami. No,
it's not. Florida State's eighteenth. They're not fifth.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, and and you know Miami is number three, but
Florida State is eighteenth. So Alabama and Vanderbilt is a,
you know, a more highly ranked matchup. So anyway, that's
where game day is going to be this week. They're
going to be there. And I would say that if
BO Texas and Oklahoma win this week, there's a good

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chance they'll be at the Cotton Bowl next week for Texas.
Oh you so, anyway, that's that's the deal of college football.
Then in pro football? Uh, now did you drop back
this morning this morning? Okay, so you stayed up last
night to watch the Cowboys game.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I saw the end of it. I was I was.
I decided to take that game. That last night was
date night, so I took the Packers and Cowboys game
off from watching live. I you know, my girlfriend was
very patient during the Ryder Cup and Commanders and NFL
s late yesterday leading up to it. So it was
it was time to get out and okay eating downtown Houston.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, all right? The uh it was? It was quite
the game.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I saw the end well, and the Cowboys looked to
be dead in water in the first quarter and the
second quarter. I pretty much owned the second quarter and
took a sixteen thirteen lead in the locker room at halftime,
and then things got really crazy and second especially in
the fourth quarter, and then on into overtime.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now, sip of water here.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Because the game ended in a tie. It always engenders
this kind of conversation because as an American sporting sport
watching and participatory fan group, we don't like ties. You know,
a lot of people this isn't soccer, international soccer, you know, YadA, YadA,

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so on and so forth, and it is the only
major team pro American sport where ties are you know,
are still a loud, though not greatly stomached I think

(09:44):
on both sides. I don't think either side was happy
that they came away with a tie. But each team
got one possession of overtime.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Cowboys drove down, got inside the five, could not score
from there. I thought it was kind of bogus that
they did Micah Parsons a sack when he tackled from behind,
but he tackled Dak Parsons. I mean, da Micah Parsons
tackled Dak Prescott basically the light of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, sack or no sack, it might have saved the game.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
So the Cowboys kicking field goal and the Packers come
down and just have all sorts of issues in terms
of clock management the last twenty seconds of the overtime.
They're they're fortunate that the one tick was left on
the clock. There were a lot of people who, because
it happened in that same end zone, that compared it
to the long Orange Big Twelve Championship game with Nebraska

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in two thousand and nine, when Colet McCoy's pass kipped
out of bounds and the clock had run the zero,
but they reviewed it and said no, no, there was
one second left. And then the Hunter Lawrence kicks the
forty six yard field goal in Texas wins the bigdof
Title thirteen to twelve. Left a lot of Nebraska people
angry and all that kind of stuff. I think I
told this story on the air before. Don't know if
I did, but I knew who the timer was for

(11:02):
that game, how he'd worked for the Big twelve. And
I just happened to run into him after the game,
after we were off the air, and I said to him, so,
I'm like some finished. He said, do you want to
know exactly how much time was left on the clock
when that pass skipped out of bounds from McCoy?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I said yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
He said, well, in the timer booth, we don't just
have it in seconds. We have it intensive seconds and
hundreds of seconds, and so what was up there? What
was left was zero point three nine seconds was left
when it skipped out of bounds.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Is it's time? That's why there was time?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Hey, college basketball, is time enough for a catch and
shoot off an inbounds three point nine?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know, zero point three to nine.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So I thought about that as well, but it was
and it left him enough time to get the field
goal from it managed to tie it, so they walk
away at forty forty. So that's how that ended up.
In the four o'clock hour today, Gene Watson, our man
with whom we talk Major League Baseball, will review the

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one hundred and sixty two game season that just ended yesterday,
and we'll ask him about two specific collapses that happened
down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
The most prolific of it was the New York Mets.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, it was, clearly it was.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
But the Houston Astros also collapsed at the end and
completely it went from leading the division two weeks ago
to completely missing the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, Tiger's able to stick around in the wild card Astros.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's what have been the most epic of all time
had they not made the postseason, leading Cleveland about fifteen
and a half games on July sixth and then and
then having it scram just to get the final wild
card spot. But they are in the postseason, and in
fact they'll play the Guardians in one of the wildcard series.

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The other one Yankees Red Sox. The Blue Jays captured
the American League East because they won the season series
from the Yankees, so they get the number one seed.
The Yankees going to a four to five matchup with
the Red Sox. As the other wildcard series, Seattle draws
the number two seed despite being swept at home by
the Dodgers of the weekend to close out the regular season.

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And if you say, well there was nothing to play for,
there actually was. For the Mariners. They had a chance
to get the one seat, they didn't do it. The
Dodgers had absolutely nothing to play for. They were going
they were locked into the third seed regardless. But they
went in and swept Clayton Kershaw on his final ever start,
pitched really really well and I think five and two
thirds or five and the third shutout innings and Freddie

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Freeman walks out to take the ball from him, not
Dave Roberts. He came out of the dugout because he
wasn't playing that day.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
And sounds like a picture that'll be in your house.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Well, yeah, it was pretty cool. And so they went into.
The Dodgers are the three seed. They will host the
Cincinnati Reds in the Wildcard round starting tomorrow night in La.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
The Reds managed to.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Do just enough in Milwaukee and while the Mets were
collapsing in Florida to the Marlins it drew them into
a tie and the Reds had won the season series,
So the Reds will play the Dodgers. The other wildcard
matchup is the Cubs and Padres.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah you'll see Hunter Green on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Night, Oh yeah, absolutely, and they will see Blake Snell
tomorrow night, who's been bitching pretty well. Then we'll see
about Wednesday. Could be Yamamoto for the Dodgers, I would imagine,
and probably Lodola will.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Go for the Reds.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Andrew Rabbit could be that guy.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, yeah, because Lodola had been at a little bit
hurt so he's a little sore.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
So we'll see about that. So anyway, that's Gene will
be on with us to.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Talk about all of that in a preview those wildcard
series as well. But up next we year from long
onrn's head coach Steve Sarkisian. When we continue here on
Sports MEDIAO AM thirteen hundred Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
I think most of you are listening the last three days.
You heard Cameron Parker and Jake Wednesday Thursday. You heard
Jake on Friday. I was out Wednesday, Thursday and Friday
had taken those three days off. I was doing some

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lecturing up in the Dallas for Worth area and a
couple of media obligations, and then Lynn and I flew
to Las Vegas. This was something I've been planned for
a while as part of whatever milestone birthday celebration you
want to call it for me. We went to Las
Vegas to see Ringo Star and his All Star Band
close out his residency at the Venetian. A great performance.

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So you know, Ringo has been doing this for a
long time. I think nineteen eighty nine's first year he
started doing his All Star Man and he's had different
great musicians join him. And while it is a play
on words all Star sta r R to go like
with his name Ringo Star, they are outstanding musicians. He's
had a lot of different ones over the years. The

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one that he that performed on Saturday Night and had
been with him for a while and was at the
Venetian with him included Hamish Stewart from Average White Band,
also Steve Luke Cather and Warren Ham from Toto, Colin

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Hay who might have been the best of the whole
group from Men at Work, and then of course Ringo,
Buck Johnson and Greg Bissonette rounded out the band. It
was a great and obviously it Don't Come Easy was
one of the songs played, so yeah, there'll be some
reminder tunes of that. It was a great show there.
We really enjoyed that one in Vegas on Saturday. And
you know, we were watching when we were leaving uh Well,

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first when we were flying in uh Jake, we were watching
a lot of college football as was on the plane,
and then and then saw some of the hotels, and
then at dinner it's the first half of the Alabama
Georgia game or saulting end of that there, and then
and then the Oregon Penn State game with Oregon staking

(17:27):
its claim uh and then and then UH Ohio State
and then the other SEC in Big twelve games as well,
So a lot of that stuff. And then yesterday coming back,
there's a lot of NFL. I got a chance to
see the Rams close out for Colts on the plane
flying home when we were just getting ready to take
off from Phoenix. Mitchell, Yeah, I felt bad for a

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d because he's a wonderful guy. I would much rather
the Rams had won a different way than him losing
the ball trying to extend it across the goal line
coming in and then getting called for a Christian critical
penalty that nullif had a touchdown run for the Colts.
But he'll bounce back, he'll he'll be good on that.
So I did see the end of that, got home
in time to watch second half of the Cowboys game,
so it was and watched the first half on the

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plane when I was getting close in, So it was
all of that.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's always fun watching sports on a plane, and you
occasionally notice the person next to you kind of peering over.
I'm not much of a plane talker, but if that happens,
if I noticed they're watching maybe the same game as me, yeah,
I'll make a new friend.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah yeah, there you go, Especially if you're watching off
of their screen or whatever.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
It's like, hey, you're ahead, why don't you turn on
cartoons or something?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
But obviously all of this happening with the Long Runs
on an open date. They did not play for the weekend,
and so at his news conference heard earlier today here
on thirteen Under the Zone, Long Horns head coach de
Sarkisian started off in his opening statement by recapping the
open weekend and everything that went through the work week

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into the open day and now getting ready to start
conference play on Saturday afternoon in Gainesville, Florida against the
Florida Gators.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
I could hear us practicing today, and that's a great
sign that we utilize the buy the right way, that
that we were able to get off our feet for
a little bit. You could tell the guys watch football
this weekend. They were they were like all of us,
watching some great games. You know, you just look around
the the SEC this weekend with Bama, Georgia, Old Miss LSU, Tennessee,

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Mississippi State, Auburn, AL, Auburn A and m all those
games coming down to the very end in the fourth quarter.
And so that's what we've been talking about in this conference,
like you have to come every week and you have
to come with the right intent, the right energy, the
right sense of urgency. And that's a weekend, week out thing.
And so today was a really good start for us

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for that.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
UH.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
And so now we've got to we've got to carry
that through throughout the week to get ourselves ready to
go UH to Florida on Saturday. Obviously a very difficult
place to play, a place that has been known around
the country has one more difficult places to play.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
They've been playing great defensive football all year. Uh, and
they've got explosive playmakers on the offensive side of the ball.
And you know, they've just been off the mark a
little bit offensively. But it's not for lack of players,
and it's not for lack of scheme. You know, Billy's
a great coach. He's gonna scheme us up. So we've
got to be prepared to go. And we've got to
be great on special teams. They've got an elite kicker, uh,

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they've got an elite punt returner in Brown.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
And so this is gonna take all three phases, you know,
playing at a high level, and that starts at the
line of scrimmage with the offensive defensive lines. And then
our speed guys need to play fast. And so we've
got our got our work cutout for us that way.
But but definitely looking forward to the opportunity and looking
forward to kicking off SCC play.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
You know, I was kind of shocked.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
I was sitting there at the end of the l
s U Old miss game and Old misses three and
oh and conference play already and we haven't played a game.
Uh so we've got a little catch up to do here,
so we got to get going.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
So the first question out of that for Sart was
for an update because Quinn Travian Wisner Trey as we
know and Trey wisnern had been dealing with that's sore
hamstring and hadn't played since the Ohio State games. So
Sark was asked, is there a way to update his
situation and what he's expecting Wisner to provide once he

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returns to the lineup.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
I think now that we're inn SEC play now we're
into the availability reports that we give out on Wednesdays,
which is a great thing. You know, you guys don't
have to waste a question on injuries and I can
put out a report on Wednesday and later in the week.
But he's progressing really well and we've been pleased about
his progress of where he's at. You know, Trey provides

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a lot for us, obviously, a great deal of experience.
You know, he's he's played in this league, you know
last year, our first year in and he was a
thousand yard rusher for us. You know, he provides a
great deal of confidence he provides a great deal of toughness.
You know, as much as Trey is not the biggest guy,
he plays with a real sense of physicality in his

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in his approach to it. And so anytime you get
that experience, especially going on the road, and you get
it during practice, I think it's helpful for all the
other guys as well. So very similar to DeAndre getting
back into the lineup, I think we get some of
that in the backfield with Trey and the sense of
confidence and belief in not only himself but the guys
around him that are going to play at high level.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
All right.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Next, he was asked about his.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Watching his viewing of the SEC games over the weekend
and did he have a specific take on who might
be the team to beat through this first quarter of
the season.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
A couple of things stood out to me.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
I thought there was a lot of penalties this weekend,
if you want to know the truth, you know, I
felt like the man, there was a lot of penalties.
And so I don't know if we're calling things a
little tighter. I don't know if teams are a little sloppy.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I know what our.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Penalty situation has been this year, So I'm you know,
I'm we're looking inward right for the first four weeks,
and this weekend gave me a chance to look outward
and see what else was going on around the country.
And and I think, you know, I haven't looked at
the totality of penalty numbers around the country, if they're
up or down, but the sure felt like a lot
of penalties this weekend, So you know, us us continuing

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to try to drive that number down and play cleaner football,
I think is important. I think clock management was something
that that stood out to me this weekend as well,
of the value of of of retaining your timeouts, of
how important they can be at the end of halves
and at the end of games.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Even though the.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Two minute warding is a is a great asset, really
giving you that fourth time out, surely you love to
have them. And so that that goes back to your preparation,
your in game, you know, substitution patterns, whether it's on offense,
defense or special teams.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
And I and I think aggressiveness.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
You know, you could you could feel the teams that
were playing aggressive in their play calls at critical moments.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
So all those were great.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
You know, I think I've just I've been saying this.
You know, I don't think there's not a game on
anybody's schedule in our conference where you're just like, hey,
you know what, nobody really needs to tune into this
one because we know what's gonna happen. I think everybody
better buckle up every Saturday in our conference. And we've
got we've got eight straight conference games, and it's going

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to take a high level of play week in and
week out to perform at a high level because there
just are no gimmes.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
There just aren't.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
And there's too many good players, there's too many tough
environments you have to play in, and there's too good
at coaching, and so.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
You know, I don't know about favorites or not right now.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
I just know I just watched enough this weekend to where, well,
you better be ready to play or you're gonna be
behind fourteen and then you're scrambling trying to play catch
up and it doesn't matter who you're playing against.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, that's a good point there.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
We'll hear more from Sark coming up later in the
program and throughout the course of the program this afternoon.
The second hour of the program here on sports radio
in thirteen hundred The Zone, Craig joined by the producer
Jay Carmon. Cameron Parker joined this momentarily, Let's get a
quick piece of sounditude from sark here before we get
on to some of the other topics we have in

(25:09):
line here for our number two, starting off with the
fact that now after four games, and was asked as
the bird's eye view of his program, what is his
big takeaway out all this?

Speaker 5 (25:20):
I think that, you know, one what I enjoyed was
last week's game that we got to play more players,
and I got a little more information on some guys,
and then we got to tap into those guys throughout
the week of really trying to push them in a
direction that I think it can be helpful for them.
You know, we're we're really good when we play complimentary

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football when and that's probably the same for everybody, but
I just know looking at us and that when we
get stops, when we create turnovers, when we take those
turnovers and create explosive plays and score points, that momentum
builds for our team. You know, we're we've been at
our best historically around here when we start fast, when
we score first I think we're like twenty and one

(26:03):
in our last twenty one games when we've scored first.
And so you know part of that is, you know,
there is momentum in football, and there's nothing like momentum.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
But you could see the difference.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
In our ability to start fast a week ago and
the energy starts to spread throughout the team on offense, defense,
and special teams. And so how do we create that
right and how do we how do we get to
a point to where that is just the normal for
this team, right? And we can't rely on those past
teams but this team, And so I do think we've

(26:34):
got a pretty good understanding of specific players and things
that they do well. I think we've got a better
understanding of an area of areas on the team where
we can excel in all three phases. But there's been
areas where I think we need to improve upon if
we want to become the team that we think we
can become.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
And I give our guys a lot of credit.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
They went for it last week and they took the
challenge on some areas where we wanted to improve, and
they came back today with a real sense of confidence
of things that we worked on last week. We came
out today and executed at maybe a little higher level
than I was anticipating, which is a good sign that
that we stayed engaged, we stayed intentional in our approach,
and so you know, we'll see, like like I said,

(27:13):
this is now, we got to do it for the
next four days after this to put ourselves in a
really good position to play all right.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
And then as there are concern about how his team
will handle the change and routine and going back on the.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Road, I hope there's not concern, you know that, you
know for me, because I think that we've got a
really good formula for success when we go on the road.
You know, we've played very well on the road. You know,
we we've played well away from dk r AS and
I think that part of that is part of the process.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
That we do.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
We we we tend not to hey, this week, we'll
do this next week. Let's change it and do that
next week, Let's do this. We we try to find
a routine and a rhythm to what we do. I
think that that you know, we've created a culture around
here where connectivity is so important. Then you've got to
have connectivity on the road. You just don't have. You've
got one hundred thousand people, you know, cheering against you,

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and you know, ultimately we've played pretty good. You know,
we haven't played perfect, and I don't know if anybody
plays perfect on the road. But when you're connected and
you play well, you can give yourselves opportunities to find
success along the way, and you can overcome some of
the adversity that you're going to get faced with. So
I'm I'm probably more confident than I'm concerned, but I
hope nobody in our building is concerned. They should feel

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very confident in our in our formula to get ourselves
ready to play on the road.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
We'll hear more from Sark later on to the NFL,
the Houston Texans get their first win, a twenty six
to nothing shut out of the Tennessee Titans. Tamiko Ryan's
head coach, was asked from this morning's availability, is their
winning formula that he can see after they started on
three and that got the win that they can pull
from this game and take on to upcoming games.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
I'm proud of our guys were executing doing the things
that we asked to do games. Is playing complimentary football
that's that's what it takes to win in this league.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
All three fai just playing together.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
Mainly, the main thing for us what we did well
just offensively is protecting the football, right, He protected football.
Your percent your chances of winning the game. That percent
goes up a ton when you just possessed the football.
So we did that. We had opportunity defensively, we had
opportunity to take it away and we did.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
So those things work.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Did he like what he saw from Woody Mark's production
once he got a chance to look at the film.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
It was exciting to see Woody show up the way
he showed up, Like some of the runs he made,
like making guys missing the whole playing physical, some of
our short yardis runs, him being able to get downhill
in the passing game, not just the catching the ball
and running, but the protection. He had some really good
protection clips as well. I thought, just overall like he

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had a really outstanding game for rookie to step in
and play the way that he played.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Really really proud of what he did.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
He smarked a lot of excitement for us offensively for
our team. Just him seeing him being able to get
in the ends all make a big huge play on
the third and I think fifteen plus like him to
take the screen pass and to convert it, get get
a first down there in the next play, lineup and
take a rush into the ends. All so, it's a

(30:17):
lot of exciting plays, a lot of big plays for
us that we're excited to see.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
You know, how much more he can handle.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
First hour of the program to talked a little bit
about the Cowboys forty forty time of the Green Bay Packers.
After the game, Brian Shotten higherrass, is this the craziest
game You've ever been involved in a.

Speaker 9 (30:33):
Lot of games for me in the NFL, It's definitely
one that I will remember. And I think I'll remember
it because I'm just I'm.

Speaker 10 (30:42):
So proud of our guys fight.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
But Kley, I wanted them to get that win, and
so I think that's the that's what I'll take away
from it. I mean to come in and you know,
play that team. That's a damn good football team we
just played, and you know, our guys just battle for
seventy minutes and the ebbs and flows, and.

Speaker 10 (31:01):
So I told him how proud I was of him.

Speaker 9 (31:04):
You know, it's a tie, and uh, I really don't
know what to say about that, but yeah, I'll remember
it for a while.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
That was a very Forest Gump time. I really don't
know what to say about that tie. Well, when take
a break, when we come back, we'll see what Cameron
Parker has to say about that, as well as the
Ryder Cup. Here on a long range Monday. Okay, Cameron
Parker's in here. I mentioned Cam that you know the

(31:33):
uh that, yeah, this had all gone on. You know
what else? You know what today is?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Don't you?

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Are you familiar with what today is? I'm not today.
You were already partaking and didn't even know what today is?
National Coffee Day.

Speaker 11 (31:47):
Free coffee. I don't want free coffee. It's not hard
to get coffee. I can get my own damn coffee. Well,
it was free to get it today. I actually got
some of the water Burger today went by, but a
lot of the places are on town they have the
free coffee.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
But you probably paid for yours because I.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Didn't even know. Yeah, we were paying moon.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We were going with Summer Moon and paying full price
for that full throttle.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
But anyway, so they were they were doing that. Did
you uh?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Did you imbibe in some coffee and then and then
uh watch Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Packers last night.

Speaker 12 (32:22):
Didn't have any coffee before watching that game. I think
that game had enough offense you didn't even need coffee,
especially the way that second half ended. I think every
every both teams scored on every single drive except for
the Cowboys opening drive out of halftime. Mm hm uh
real real fun Sunday night a football game. I'm not
sure which team feels better which team feels worst coming

(32:45):
off the game. I think maybe Jerry Jones feels a
little bit better, even though he probably shouldn't. Maybe Packers
fans feel a little bit worse about their defense that
I think for two weeks people thought was possibly the
best defense in the league. Now I'm not sure about that.
You could argue the cow was the best offensive the league,
but you definitely can ague they have the worst defense
in the league. So not sure where they go from that.

(33:07):
And here we are, still in twenty twenty five, and
as the NFL really figured out over time, like, are
we sure games should end in tie? Still?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, here's two different here's two different takes on first
from Ryan Schottenheimer shot he was asked, is taking a
tie unfulfilling.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
Look, you know, we got to learn how to win.
You know, this is year one of our program.

Speaker 9 (33:30):
But when you have the fight these guys do, when
they're willing to battle and just fight for seventy minutes
plus two weeks really in a row at home. You know,
we're building something special here. And no one in that
locker room is happy. No one in that locker room
is fulfilled. We didn't win, and there's definitely things to

(33:52):
clean up. But I would be remiss if I said
I wasn't. I'd be remiss if I didn't say how
proud I was of them in their fight, and I
wanted that for them.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
But man, NFL football is hard, all right.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
So that's one take on it.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
You mentioned Jerry Jones, I wouldn't say Jerry was necessarily
happy with the timee that he sure didn't sound upset
with it.

Speaker 13 (34:17):
That game was probably a great game for the NFL
as far as the showcase for the game and competition,
because you had outstanding quarterback play, you had some very
talented people out there playing. You certainly had one of
the most expensive players in the history of the NFL
out there playing, And so I guess everybody was going

(34:38):
to take a look tonight and decide to.

Speaker 14 (34:40):
See worth all there.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
That was a Michael Parsons reference, obviously one of the
most expensive players in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Out there, Yes, Jerry, it was a referendum on Micah
last night.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
First of all, I thought it was unfair to the
Cowboys in the Dack to actually award that sack to Parsons.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
There was no gain on the play. Sacked to me
is a.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Negative play, but they went ahead and did it. But
didn't sound like Jerry was that upset about it.

Speaker 12 (35:07):
No, And like I said, he probably thinks the Cowboy
that he won the trader last night, which I don't
think is the case at all. I mean, it is
kind of fitting that Micah did prevent possibly a touchdown
a game may have been the game winning touchdown. Maybe
Dak doesn't get to the end zone. Not sure.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I mean Green Bay I think should have won that game.

Speaker 12 (35:26):
I mean the ball with the twenty twenty five yard
line with two minutes left and then bad clock manager
terrible like some of these coaches, like can they just
go play Madden like before the season starts to the
understanding clock management or can they hire someone because that
was an abomination. Green Bay should have sorted a touchdown
there and then some of the play calling, the clock management,
and they were very lucky to have a second left
on the clock. I mean, I don't know if y'all

(35:48):
saw Michael Irvin this morning. Was it first take or
something like that? Or get up? Just like where where's
the home cooking? From the clock operator? Maybe too fair there,
but Jerry really talking about is a great game for
the NFL. Why do you care about that? You should
care about winning and losing, and this is a losing
football team right now. Or well, they didn't lose last night.

(36:09):
I guess technically they tied, so not sure what you
make of that. But Jerry of course believes the Cowboys
won the trade for last night.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Sure, yeah, and I think you're I've seen people have
a hard time working out a tie in their mind
because a tie takes all more of a negative connotation
in the possible one unless you were a major underdog.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I mean. The most classic example.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
That is, we have to be old school to know
about this when I was just a little kid, so
I didn't I read about it later. It's apparently a
really good book in the documentary about it. Harvard was
pretty bad in nineteen sixty eight. Yale was pretty good.
In fact, we're going to win the Ivy and they
were up twenty nine to thirteen in the final two

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three minutes of the game. Harvard comes back, get a touchdown,
two point conversion, recovers an on site kit comes down,
gets a touchdown, two point conversion, games and ends in
a twenty nine to twenty nine tie. In the newspaper
headline the next day ran Harvard beach Yale twenty nine
twenty nine off of that, because I'm sure it felt
like a defeat to Yale and it felt like a
victory to Harvard. I don't know if it goes as

(37:21):
far as to say it felt like a victory to
the Cowboys. But one two and one is better than
one in three.

Speaker 13 (37:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You know a lot of people love to do the
analytics on teams that start ze two or one in
three and say the percent chances aren't very good one
two and one. There's probably not nearly enough of a
sample size to do that kind of research.

Speaker 12 (37:42):
Yeah, without a doubt. And like I said, I think
for Green Bay, if you're waking up this one, you
probably feel a little bit worse about it last time.
I mean, when when Green Bay got the ball and
scored and then thirteen to nothing, you're thinking this will
be a blowout, and then that that blocked extra point
gave Donas a little bit of momentum. But then I
think Dak and Schottenheim are kind of figured out green

(38:03):
Bay's defense, and I thought they did a good job
of really taking away green Bay's pass rush. I mean
that was that was by far the biggest strength I
think out of either unit on both sides of the ball,
and it felt like they did a good job of
keeping Dak clean for the most part. It's also it's
week four. It's a super long season now, and looking

(38:23):
at the NFC, I mean, is there any team that
really impresses you? I mean, of course, but they continue
to win these games where it's like, you know, the
other team always had a chance to win, you know,
the same way last year and Phil he did win
the Super Bowl. I mean, the Rams had an impressive
win yesterday Tampa Bay. Now, I think, like three to one,
Detroit has bounced back after a tough opening week.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Locks.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
I think Seattle looks good.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
They look pretty good I'll tell you who had the
worst loss, yes, or it's the forty nine Ers losing
it home to the Jaguars. So the forty nine Ers
played the Rams on Thursday night in Santa Clara, and
the forty nine Ers, Rams, and Seahawks are all three
and one. So I think you know there's there's that.
Uh you know the last time the Cowboy? Did you
see my text thread this morning?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Not text?

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
What on X? What I was tweeting this morning?

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I did not? I did not?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Okay, good So Mark follower are a good friend? Played
by play voice of the Dallas Mavericks and Television does
soccer and football and Fox and the like tweeted out
last night that the last time the Cowboys. Do you
know when the last time the Cowboys had a tie game? H?
I don't know if you saw it from another agency

(39:36):
or right, I did not.

Speaker 12 (39:38):
I don't think if they tied, it had to be
before I really became a big football fan, So I
would say probably early two thousands, late nineties.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
The last time the Cowboys played a tie game. I
I was nine years old. Oh, okay, nineteen sixty nine,
Thanksgiving Day in playing inside the cop they played their
home games of the cop Bole Stadium back then against
some forty nine ers. I remember watching that at my
aunt's house with Thanksgiving dinner, a twenty four to twenty
four time with the forty nine ers, and the forty.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Errands were bad that year.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
They went forty two the Cowboys, and then I commented
on I replied to Marx tweet that year the Cowboys
went eleven two and one.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
They won. They had the best record in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
In those days, it was the last day of the
NFL in the AFL, and the NFL was broken down
into two conferences, Eastern Conference and Western Conference, and they
had four divisions like they have the day, but the
divisions were called the Capital Division, of which the Cowboys
were remember, along with Washington, I think New York and Philadelphia.

(40:46):
Then you have what was called the Century Division, which
was Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, and Saint Louis Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
The leaders and the legends.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
It was a lot like that.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Then in the Western Conference you had what was called
the Central Division, which was your black and Blue, your Giants, Bears, Packers,
and Vikings. And then he had what was called the
Coastal Division Rams forty nine Ers, Baltimore Colts, and Atlanta Falcons.
What a weird coastline that is. And so the Cowboys
that you win eleven to two and one and won

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the Capitol Division and then were promptly dismissed from the
playoffs by the Century Division winning Cleveland Browns, who had
a worst record. The game was in Dallas and the
Cowboy in the mud and rain. My broadcast mentor Bill
Mercer called played by playing that game, and the Cowboys
got me badly thirty eight to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
That was the last time that the Cowboys played a
tie game.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
So ties are pretty rare, and then they can kind
of mess up things, but then kind of clean things
too between teams that either or up ahead of them
or below them. Because of that half a win and
half a loss, it happens. Okay, speaking of halfs the
Ryder Cup yesterday, going into the day, the Europeans, who

(42:05):
had been just slapping the US around the first two days,
needed what a.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Point and a half was all they needed?

Speaker 12 (42:13):
Two and a half.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Two and a half.

Speaker 12 (42:14):
After news came out that Victor Hovlin had withdrew due
to a neck injury, occurred in the morning match of Saturday.
The way it works they call it the envelope rule,
where each captain has to put a player's name in
an envelope the night before Sunday, and if the envelope
rule is invoked, if a player of either side can't go,

(42:35):
do the injury or something else, then the player and
the envelope can't play and each side is awarded half
a point as in a tie a half. So it
went from Europe needing just two and a half points
to retain the cup to just two.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
So if they all didn't play, Europe still would have
retained the cup from all those half points.

Speaker 12 (42:52):
Yes, so really what the Americans should have done is
and Friday's four balls and Saturday's four balls is just
used on local or four matches because none of the
players could have won any points, they would have had
a chance going in the Sunday's matches. They did that way.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
But by the way, Keegan Bradley, the American captain, says
he thinks that the Envirelope rules should change. Luke Donald,
becoming only the second European captain, went back to backup
said rules there to protect the players. Keep it there,

(43:26):
so Donald said, the rule is the rule. It's been
in place for a long time. We have contracts for
a reason, a captain's agreement for a reason, for situations
that occur.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
So there was that Europeans more prepared shocker.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Bradley said the rule has to change, but he wouldn't
specify how he would alter it. The most obvious way
to do it would have the injured golfers team forfeit
a full point instead of a half point, and he said,
have a few ideas, but I'm going to tell you
right now. I mean, the rule has to change. I
think it's obvious to everybody in the sports world in
this room. Nothing against Victor, but that rule needs to
change by the next time Ryder Cup.

Speaker 12 (44:00):
You know, so in the Solheim Cup, which is the
woman's first and the Ryder Cup team USA versus the Europeans,
if a player withdrawals, the other team gets a full point.
So now, the last time this role was used, I
believe it was a nineteen ninety three Ryder Cup, and
that point going into Sunday, both teams at eight points,
so you're just gaining half a point each, so it
wasn't a big difference. In this case, the Europeans leads

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was so large that actually helped it favored Team Europe
even though they were losing a player to withdraw. Now,
Hari's English had not played well this week. He was
the player in the envelope, so he did not play
against Victor Holin Hoblin, who had a massive put on
seventeen and Saturdays. Foursome's the clincher point for Europe, was
playing pretty well. Now if he plays as he get,

(44:44):
you know, does he hurt himself even worse? Does it
turn into a blood or maybe Hoblin goes out and
beats Harris English doesn't matter, But I am curious on
ways to fix this, like do you just either give
no points? Do you wore the other team a full point?
Or I said to my dad, have Keith and Bradley
and Luke Donald play a thirteenth match that's inside the

(45:05):
point right there. If your player can't go, congratulations, Luke Donald,
you're now playing Keith and Bradley playing captain.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah, I joke, I joked there, but I could see.

Speaker 12 (45:14):
I mean, you know, if you have a thirteenth player
kind of an alternate, But then it's kind of weird.
If he's just there the whole weekend, not ready to go.
So fortunately it's only the third time I believe this
has happened in Ryder Cup history. So it's just one
of those weird things where I don't know there's a
clear fix for it. But I'm glad it did not
come down to that because it would have been such

(45:36):
a weird I think there truly would have been an asterisk.
I think there would have been an asterisk if it
came down to the envelope in Europe able to retain
or win based on the envelope, because that's a terrible
way to decide the rider.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Come Ultimately, like you said, it didn't become It didn't
come to that. Came close though, to coming to that.
So everybody the takeaway, everybody's winner is how could it
get to where it got to going into Sunday before
the Americans made the huge charge to pull within a couple.

Speaker 12 (46:07):
I think Team Europe put so much effort in thinking
and practice into this event and the Americans kind of
just show up And it's really has been seeing the
last two years. I'll give you one point. So the
home team has a say in the course set up right,

(46:28):
they don't have the final say, but the home captain,
Kig and Raley can talk with the PGA of America
and the Bethpage Black superintendents and decide, hey, we want
to set up this way. And it was Kicking Raley's idea, Hey,
you know, let's let's shorten the rough down, keep it
really thin and just kind of make it more of

(46:48):
a putting match. Right now, Putting is tough, Craig, because
we've seen great fartings. Yeah, well, I mean all it's
you know, it's not hard for a player to have
a bad day. Putting does not mean he's a bad putter.
It's just you know, you get one shot up putting
on the putting green for the most part.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
So it's tough.

Speaker 12 (47:08):
So there's a higher level of varians in terms of,
you know, the control if your team puts well or not.
In the Americans putt it very badly. Sam Burns, their
best putter on the team based off data golf, was terrible.
He was terrible all week. So Americans there bought the
home course set up, and that can be whether it's
Kick and Bradley, who's also focusing on his playing career.

(47:31):
Remember he's the thirteenth ranked player in the world. Luke Donald,
he still plays, but he's not folks, He's not in
the prime of his career like Keigan Bradley is right now.
The Europeans have spent the last two years focusing on
this event, and before that, the way they set up Rome,
they made that course such a huge advantage for their players,
and the Americans did not do that for Bedpage.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (47:53):
So, Scottie Scheffler and Russell Henley were paired together in
the Forsom's match and by the way, is alternate shot, right,
So one player will tee off on the even holes
and one player with t off from the odd holes.
And so Scotty teed off on the odd holes and
Russell Henley teed off in the even holes. And halfway
through the match when they were getting killed, it was like, Hey,

(48:14):
the whole the even holes actually favored Scotty in the
odd holes favre Russell Henley. This is kind of weird,
and this is being thought out by idiots on Twitter,
and they know this. The next day they play in
Scotty Scheffland Russell Henley also felt the same way that
they made two calls to vice captains to say, hey,
can we switch because there was no thought into putting

(48:35):
odds and evens and who was teeing off food? Which
just go out there and play in. Talent will take over.
So it's just little things like that. It's all in
the march. It's little details. I mean, it came out
today that that Luke Donald and Europeans had changed out
the shampoos at the team hotel because they didn't think
it was it meant the level of expectation for Team Europe.
He had the doors fixed, she had all this stuff done,

(48:56):
and you know, does that does that play in the
factor in the Tommy Fleet? Would draining a thirty foot
putt to win a hole?

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Maybe?

Speaker 12 (49:02):
Maybe not, but you can tell the Europeans put so
much thought into every single detail and the Americans I
don't think they do. And I don't think it's Kicking
Braley's fault because again, the Page of America decided two
years ago after the beatdown in the room, okay, we
got to change everything. Who to be a good captain? Well,
you know, Kicking Bradley was in this full swing Netflix
dock and it was a really moving episode. So and

(49:23):
he cares about America, so maybe he would be a
good captain. And you look at the European side, even
guys like Jose Marie Althabo who played on Ryder Cup
winning teams, who has won a Ryder Cup as a captain,
Edward Mullinari, who's been the man behind the computer, there's
some such a good job. All these guys or vice
captains have been. All the European vice captains have either
have won the Ryder Cup as a playing member or

(49:45):
as a captain. On the American side, where's Tiger Woods at?
Why is he not there? Why isn't Jordan's beat there?
Why isn't Rickey Fowler there? Where's Paul Asinger, Where's Steve Strickrat,
Where is Davis with the third? All those guys have
won as Ryder Cup captains, They're not there. It's Brendan Steele,
who I didn't even know still playing golf. It's Brent Sedeker.
And no offense to those guys. They're probably really good
human beings, but there's no level of winning on the

(50:08):
American side. Behind the scenes. The Europeans have all those
guys who are there every year. I mean, the Americans
have now lost what or the Europeans that want eleven
the last fifteen.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Ryder Cups, Yeah, the last time.

Speaker 12 (50:20):
And how often is not the best player in the
world an American. Scotty Scheffler is the best player in
the world, and the Americans had no idea how to
pair him up this week. Now, you know, it was
the same way with Tiger and Phil. It felt like
the Americans never could really figure out a good playing partner.
Forget those guys. And maybe that's just how it's going
to be for Scotti Scheffler. But you can just tell
by watching this event. The Europeans care more and they

(50:42):
put more effort into this event, and the Americans just
kind of we're going to show up and we're going
to hope our talent wins. And guess what, it has
been failing for a couple of decades. Now, last thing
I want you to hear. You've heard this sound bite,
but let just let everybody else. So this is Rory
McElroy talking about is exchange with the boorish fans and
the way things win.

Speaker 15 (51:03):
No, I like, I don't think we should ever accept
that in golf. I think golf should be held a
higher standard than than what was, you know, than what
was seeing right there this week. Golf has the ability
to unite people. Golf teaches you very good life lessons.

(51:26):
It teaches you etiquette, It teaches you how to play
by the rules, It teaches you how to respect people,
and you know, sometimes this week we didn't see that.
So no, this should not be what is acceptable in
the Ryder Cup. But you know, we will be making
sure to say to our funds in Ireland in twenty

(51:47):
twenty seven that you know, what happened here this week
is not acceptable. And it's you know, for me, it's
you know, come and support your home team. Come and
support your team. You know, I think if I was
an American, I would be annoyed that people I didn't
hear a lot of shots for Scotty today, but I

(52:08):
heard a lot of shots against me, And it's like
support your players, you know, that's the that's the thing.
So look, it was a rough week for all of us.
But at the same time, you know, we we shut
them up by our performance and how we played, and
we tried to you know, I chirped back a few

(52:29):
times because it caught to me a few times, but
we tried to handle everything that came our way with
class empoise on For the most part, I felt like
we did that.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I think he made a good point.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Listen, a lot of people think it's funny that you
can get a whole bunch of a holes up there
in New York act in that way. It goes to
your point, this isn't what golf is used to. So
now you've changed up and up away by throwing a
bunch of heckling, borish, drunk people out there.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
And it was not like the Wisconsin crowd four years ago.

Speaker 12 (53:08):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Jake.

Speaker 12 (53:09):
And I think I saw this on Twitter. I must
I'm asa steal it. I think it's the bar stolification
of sports. And what I mean by that not saying
everyone at barstools like this, but when you watch a
lot of like media types like that in their videos,
like one is surfacing of I think his name is
Hank going on a rant about the Mets missing the
playoffs and it's just mother effing all the players and

(53:31):
all that, and you know, we'll talk about Frank the Tank,
Frank the Tank and being very demeaning to Mets players
and the team and stuff, and you know, I think
a lot of people, common people see that and see
people other human beings trashing other human beings and think
it's acceptable. And what I heard was being shot at
Rory about his wife, about his kids, about his family.

(53:53):
It's disrespectful and as a society, as a people, you
gotta do better. I understand if you want to make hey,
you know, make jokes about some sort of sporting event
that Rory may have. But Pinehurst people were chanting Pinehurst
twenty twenty four. Okay, yeah, I think that's a fair game.
Or hey, Rory, you don't need your top button to choke.

(54:14):
That's a that's a good chirp, right, But going after
someone's family, and I think a lot that just goes
to you go on social media and it's a cess
pool where people go in and like this player needs
to he should kill himself because he feeled that he
missed the field goal. He did this. He costs me
money in that And I think now it's reaching a
boiling point to where we're hearing this and it all

(54:36):
came out. I know, I heard on Sunday the fans
are much better. Josh White, who is the baseball sports
information director, was actually at page gest and came back
this morning. He said the heckling was a lot better
than it was on Saturday. But still I think out
of the entire event, I have so much more respect
for Rory in how we handled that weekend to be
able to play through that and deliver what four points

(54:56):
for the Europeans, because I don't think a lot of
people could handle could handle that type of heckling towards
him and his wife, and so kudos to him and
the Europeans. It's it's shameful, and I just think that
there's some very unclassy people.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Out there, no doubt about it. You're a class hack though.
We appreciate you coming.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Bye on that.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
All right, that's Cameron Parker. We have more coming up
when we continue on thirteen under the Zone. Here's a
all right, let me go to the text line here
the guy who's the angry North Texas fans. I know,
way there were sixteen thousand at DOCU, you got it,
that's counting. I guess there's season tickets sold. And then

(55:38):
they announced sixteen thousand and yeah, North Texas is five
and zero for the first time since nineteen fifty nine.
By now a team that went to the Sun Bowl
that year. That was the first year broadcasting for my
first mentor, Bill Mercer, who did it for thirty five years.

(56:00):
It was his first year in nineteen fifty nine, and
they went. They went to them, So yeah, they didn't
have a big crowd on that. I think the eleven
am kick had something to do with it. But they
did have a sellout against Washington State. They never had
sellouts when I was there, and I was there back
some time ago. So it has moved forward, and I
would say the program hasn't had this kind of success.

(56:22):
They've had some bowl games, and they had a bowl
game last year, but their records have always been right
around five hundred. So now they're five and Zho I
would say this to fellow Mean Green alum. To me,
the bigger test is going to come a week from Friday.
A week from this Friday, North Texas will be at

(56:44):
home against South Florida, the same South Florida team to
beat Florida, you know, and they are definitely a contender
in the American A long with the Mean Green. I
personally think that maybe the best team in the ark
And right now is Memphis, but the Being Green could
be right up there with them.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Hey, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
You know how that nineteen fifty nine team got to
five and zero. Tell me o win over the Pensacola
Naval Air Station fighting pilots. I don't know. That's their mascot,
forty three to nothing in front of seven thousand and Foutsfield.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
There you go, an old fare and p fouts Field
and that team. A lot of those military teams were
really good teams were made up. You know, Randolph Field,
which was from Randolph Airbase there north of San Antonio,
played in the Cotton Bowl one year played in the
Cotton Bowl Game.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
So I do not have their record from that year.
The Pensacola Naval Air Station.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, okay, So this first time since nineteen fifty nine,
I lectured up there last Wednesday. They put a lot
of the people up there are really fired up about it,
and I could see it around town. It's a little
bit different, certainly a lot different than when I was
up there. But I would say this, let's see what
happens with that game South Florida. It's a Friday night,

(58:02):
it's a nashally televised game. Hopefully the crowd and the
students turn up big because it's a night game and
it's a Friday night that it'll be a sellout done.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Dent and Ryan have a huge game Friday night too.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
That week.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Oh not that week, you're right, I'm thinking of this week.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah, probably Alito.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Maybe.

Speaker 15 (58:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I heard Temperate Pickle talking about that. It's a big
bye week coming up. But Denton Ryan's got a huge one.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
So I would say, wait and see how that one is.
If that's a sellout crowd and they win that game,
then I'll like their chances to perhaps run the table.
The rest of the regis and they do not play
Memphis in the regular season, but if they win that
game over South Florida, I like their chances maybe to
run the table. Then you're playing Memphis not only in

(58:49):
the conference championship, but perhaps for a shot to get
in the College football playoff. At that point, perish the thought,
so he said, butting is hard. Tom Herman. It's because
he used to say winnings are on. It bothered a
lot about all coaches say it. Just Tom used to
say it a lot, and it bothered a lot of people.
All Right, we'll be back to wrap up our number
two on thirteen Under the Zone third and final hour

(59:12):
of the program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen Under
the Zone. Way back at the start of the program,
our friend Chuck and Houston said, Cowboys just needs an
average defense. Jerry, wake up, you old Yeah, Okay, we
get it there. They settled for a forty forty tie
and a one two and one record off of that.

(59:32):
Let's hear a little from Brian Schottenheimer about that when
last we were and they was asked about it, whether
a tie was unfulfilling, but.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
The uh.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
He was asked about the teaching point for Sanborn on
that last throw there from Jordan Love.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Yeah, he's the.

Speaker 9 (59:50):
Carry player trying to run down the middle field.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
It's tough.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
They're trying to get speed on there, and man, I
wish you would have bounced around for another half a
second or so. But uh yeah, Yeah, it's hard because
you have to match speed with a guy that's faster
than you, and it's hard to play defense with your
back turn. But again, I think you know this is

(01:00:12):
this is this is gonna be a lot of really
good things for us to take and there's gonna be
a ton of corrections on both sides and special teams.
I think the discipline and the penalties bounce back. We
have to be better with that. That starts with me
as the head coach, goes on next to the coaches
and the players, and I just can't shoot yourself in

(01:00:35):
the foot. But I say it every week. Man, the
process stays the same. And uh, it's almost midnight right now, right,
so I've only got a few more minutes before i
have to move on to the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's started to get ready for the time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Who played the night against the Miami Dolphins, one of
the two games in the Monday night football doubleheaders, so
we can watch it zero win on that? What about
the depth of his team and the young guys he
has to step up at many did?

Speaker 9 (01:01:02):
The depth of this football team is something we're really
proud of, Mick. You know, I think it's next man
up mentality is real. Everybody uses that as a saying,
but I mean, shoots. You go into this game and
you're down, you know, Bbe and Booker and guys like TJ.
Baskell in there in battle and then CD's down and
next thing, you know, Ryan Florinoy and Jalen Tolbert and
guys like that. Are making plays and Shamar James is

(01:01:24):
finally playing some football man, and yeah, I mean that
gets you, That gets you excited, you know, and these
guys need to play, Nate Thomas, I mean, then we lose,
Then we lose guiding late, you know, going in overtime,
it's like, okay, next man up, and you go in
there and against a really really good defense and an
excellent defensive line. I mean, these guys I thought just

(01:01:45):
competed their asses off and that's that's the sour thing
for it for me because I wanted to win for them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
So how about his status, however, how he feels the
overall play of the secondary.

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
Was I need to look at it, you know, I
mean I really do. I think, you know, plagued by
some of the same things. You know, we got to
you know, limit people the field goals in the red zone,
got to get off the field on third down. You know,
we we we did some good things. Finally won the
turnover battle, you know, James Houston incredible rush, right that

(01:02:18):
was huge, and the sudden change things, so you know,
we tak complimentary football.

Speaker 10 (01:02:21):
I think that was a big part of it. And
I mean the.

Speaker 9 (01:02:24):
Block field goal or the extra point was huge. I mean,
that's where the momentum swung. I mean, you guys felt it,
you know, because we were kind of struggling a little
bit on offense, trying to find our way, and then
that was a huge play.

Speaker 10 (01:02:34):
And was it Wanye?

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
They got it?

Speaker 10 (01:02:36):
Did Wanye get it? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
And that kind of jump started us, man, And next thing,
you know, you go from a defensive battle to a shootout.
And we can win any game anyway, any style that
we have to. But we just got to find a
way to win. And that's what we're going to be
teaching these guys.

Speaker 10 (01:02:54):
Show them where we can be better.

Speaker 9 (01:02:56):
Show them, Hey, man, if we do this, this and this,
you know, we do win that game. If we cut
back on a couple of the penalties, or if we
if we tackle a little bit better, or you know,
if we if we don't, you know, give up the
third down conversions and things like that, then we will
find a way to win.

Speaker 10 (01:03:12):
And I do believe this.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
I think once it all comes together, I think we're
gonna win in bunches. And they're gonna they're gonna come
in multiple weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
All right, So the New York Jets will provide the
opposition again. The Jets play the Dolphins tonight in Monday
Night Football.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
So there's that, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
How about some more sound from a long Wrns head
coach Deve Sarkisian. This is, after all long Warts Monday,
the recap of an open day to buy week and
his study of his team and of the opponent. And
he was asked, are there any freshmen or younger guys
who win? You step back and you did evaluate who

(01:03:51):
perhaps impressed you more than others?

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
It's more about I don't think any of them really,
you know, disappointed me. I think they all sees the opportunity.
They all they all want to contribute in some way,
shape or form to our success. I think they also know, hey,
I only get to bring seventy four guys, you know
on this trip.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
You know that's a that's an sec rule.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
And so you know we've been traveling upwards to eighty
eight to ninety players even on home games, to the
to the team hotel, and so the idea that I've
got to trim that number by fourteen to sixteen guys,
you know, well somebody, somebody doesn't get to go. And
so it's guys trying to find, you know, their opportunities
to make sure that they're on that plane. And if
they're on the plane, if you're on the plane, you

(01:04:35):
better be prepared to play and contribute. And so I
give give the coaches and the players a lot of
credit for.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Pushing these young guys.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
We've got some tough decisions to make of who's going
to go and who's not. But I'd much rather that
than when I first got here. I couldn't even get
seventy four guys I wanted to bring, you know, so
it was kind of like, well, let's throw them a bone,
and you know, give this guy because we got to
bring about sixty five. So now, well it's more difficult,
and that's okay. And again, just because a guy may

(01:05:05):
go this week or not go this week, doesn't mean
that he won't the following week. And that's the part
that we've got to keep pushing these guys to become
the best that they can become.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Okay, all right, And then he was asked some interesting
questions with regard to arch Manning and young quarterbacks overall
in college football. So, first of all, he was asked
about his approach to the bye week and how he
approached that with Arch and what he wants him to
see and what he has seen and what he has

(01:05:33):
gone through of the past several days.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
You know, naturally, we wanted to build on coming out
of the Sam Houston game because I thought that he
did some really good things for us in that game,
you know, and you know, his ability to push the
ball down the field, his ability to play within rhythm
and timing and get to secondary reads, his ability to

(01:05:55):
use his legs to his advantage, and our ability to
utilize his legs.

Speaker 7 (01:05:59):
I think are important.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
I think we've got to continue to push the second,
third and fourth reads.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
I mean, again, we try our best as a coaching
staff to get the first read open, and then you
know we're getting when we can't. We've got to have
the ability to get through our progression. And I think
the progress that he made in that last game is
going to be beneficial for him to where not that
he doesn't know where to go with the ball on
a second, third, and fourth reads. I think he's well

(01:06:29):
more than equipped and nobody, nobody prepares better than Arch.

Speaker 14 (01:06:32):
He doesn't have to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
Feel rushed, he's not late, and the timing and the
rhythm of his drop and the timing and the rhythm
of where people are and spots on the field, and
trusting that to stay in to stay in rhythm for himself,
I think is something that he can take from that
game and continue to build upon.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
All Right, So there's that and one more from Sark
with not just about Arch but about young quarterbacks in
general and it and it really kind of spoke to
him again watching a lot of young quarterbacks go through
what they went through as he watched a lot of
games over the bye weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
I'm gonna go on a little soapbox here, then I'm
gonna get back to that answer. You know, I think
one thing that came out of this weekend as well,
and I'm looking around the country at the high profile players.
I don't know if any of them are living up
to what everybody said they were supposed to be. But
we're in this era right now of everybody's got a phone,

(01:07:30):
so everybody's got Twitter, there's nine thousand podcasts going on.
The coverage over at college football is more and more
intense than it's ever been, and so players are getting
put up on these pedestals really quickly in their careers,
and I felt like this weekend I could feel some

(01:07:50):
guys pressing, you know, not so different maybe than Arch
was pressing early on to where they feel like they
have to live up to whether it's whatever they're allegedly
making through nil or because this is what the media
is saying I'm supposed to be or I'm not being.
College football players are getting critiqued and criticized more now
than they ever have in the past, too, and so
this is a different era that we're in, and I

(01:08:12):
think that we've got to do a great job as
coaches of I don't want to say shelter, but we
got to protect our guys. And because they're not pros yet,
all right, and the majority of them probably will be,
of the guys that I'm talking about, but we've got
to do a really good job of putting them in
the right mental space to where they're still enjoying playing
the game of football with their college football teammates. And

(01:08:34):
so to me, that that's what that's the point to
these guys, you know, And and I think that they
got to play for the love of the game. Because
they do love the game, they need to play football
and not work football, and and I think that that's
something we've been working on with Arch And I'm sure
there's a lot of other coaches around the country that
are going through similar things in that in that realm.

(01:08:56):
You know, you could talk Ryan Wingo very similar, Like
these guys are. Our guys are finally started to relax, right.
It took four games in to relax and play a
little bit, but I could. I could feel guys pressed
this weekend as well watching them play, and you know,
I hope for them that they can get through it.
Our game's better when the good players are playing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Really good, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
So that we'll hear some more from Sarks a little
later on, but we're going to shift to baseball. It's
playoff baseball time. Gene Watson, our MLB insider, joins us next.
I'm thirteen hunderd the Zone. A man who knows Vegas
very well, but who knows the baseball scene even better,
joins us for a weekly conversation. It's Gene Watson from

(01:09:35):
the Chicago White Talk front office. There, gino. The first
thing that I'm going to get And you know you've
known me a long time. You know me over forty years.
So we've known each other a long time, and you
know me to be a very very positive person. I
believe in the upbeat. I believe in the positive, not
the negative. Now, having said that, I am curious to

(01:09:58):
get your thoughts now because of the way things ended
with this crazy ending of the regular season of baseball.
Your thoughts on the Mets what's been called a historic
colossal collapse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
The Tigers almost.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Wound up in that same thing after leading by fifteen
and a half on July eighth over the Guardians, but
still manage to get in the playoffs because of the
Astros collapse down the stretch and all of that in
the nationally helped the Reds get in, and you got
the Guardians and Tigers both getting into the American League,
no Texas teams getting in from the American League, and

(01:10:32):
then the other resulting fall out, the managerial changes, Rockleball
Delli dismissed from the Minnesota Twins, Bob Melvin from the Giants.
That kind of stuff always seems to follow at the
end of the year. But your thoughts on how this
all came to the screeching hal at the end of
the regular season, Well, it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
Was kind of a crazy final week. I don't think
anybody expected, in including myself, the Mets to collapse as
badly as they did.

Speaker 14 (01:10:59):
And you know, the fact of.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
The matter is the Marlins over the second half of
the season were about fourteen games better than the Mets,
which is incredible when you're talking about sixty seven million
dollar payroll as opposed to a three hundred and forty
million dollar payroll. But I think it's a good time to,
you know, evaluate and assess everything that you're doing, from
you know, your advanced scouting to your game prep, to

(01:11:22):
your pro scouting, the things you're doing at the upper levels.
But I don't know that there's ever been a collapse
like this before. You know, I felt like Houston was
running out of gas a little bit the final month
and that came to fruition. But nobody could have expected
what the Cleveland Indians did the last twenty seven games,
going twenty and seven, coupled with the Tigers, you know,

(01:11:48):
doing what they did the last two weeks of the season.
That was like a thirteen and a half game lead
in July and like an eleven game lead in September.

Speaker 14 (01:11:56):
And so I don't think anybody expected this.

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
I think it It speaks to the parody in baseball
right now, and it's going to be an exciting October
for the teams that didn't make it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
All right, before we get to previewing the Division Series,
I asked you this a couple of weeks ago, just
checking back in with you. With regard to MVP voting,
Cal Rawley, the big dumper, winds up with sixty home runs.
Obviously every other offensive category was pretty much dominated by

(01:12:27):
Aaron Judge, but then folks are countering for Cal Raly,
seeing the dude is an everyday player, is a catcher
and a switch hitter. But the numbers are pretty pretty distinct.
They're in terms of favoring Aaron Judge and all the
other big offensive categories.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
How do you see the MVP situation right now?

Speaker 6 (01:12:47):
You know, Craig, I still think it comes down to
an entire body of work. I know we talk about
the twenty twenty five season, but you know, when you
look back in the past years at gold Gloves, it's
kind of a body of work.

Speaker 14 (01:12:59):
Award into de throwing.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
Somebody from that takes a lot, and I think we're
still there when it comes to the MVP. I think
what Calra now, I will tell you I think cal
Rawly has been more important too the Seattle Mariners. But
when it comes to the most valuable player, I think
there's just so much you know, precedence with it, so

(01:13:21):
much lack of mobility. I think that at the end
the judge will still be the most valuable.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Player in the National League. Show Tommy hit his fifty
fifth yesterday. It's he passed last year's landmark total of
fifty four to go with the fifty stolen bases. Is
there any thought in your mind that anybody else could
unseat him as nationally MVP?

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
No, And I was.

Speaker 14 (01:13:39):
Wrong on that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
I thought that once show a not like he logged
a ton of innings this year, but I felt like,
you know, having spent twenty twenty one with him and
seeing what he put into his time on the mound,
that that just prep work would would hamper his numbers
a little bit. And he just shows, you know how
incredible he is. Even though he didn't log like two
hundred innings. He's still pitched and he still put up

(01:14:03):
you know, monumental offensive numbers and I can't see it
change there at all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
All right Tago Baseball with Gene watching. Let's let's uh,
let's jump to these wildcard series. They're pretty interesting when
I look and I'm starting the American League.

Speaker 10 (01:14:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Toronto makes that that that final push. They win their
last four games, even though the Yankees won their last
eight games and Toronto held on by virtue of the
tiebreaker to win the American Leagues. Not only win the
American League East, they get the number one seed.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
UH.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Seattle, had they not gotten swept by the Dodgers over
the weekend at home, might have had a shot to
try to catch Toronto. They ended up not. They'll be
the two, so they get the buye. Then you got
this unique thing where you have Cleveland is the three.
The Yankees and Red Sox are the four and the five.
And so you've got two wildcard games at least maybe

(01:14:52):
three set up at Yankee Stadium since the wildcard I
or seed plays all the home games. And then you've
got Detroit playing in Cleveland. They just got through playing
two series against one another. The Tigers ended up winning
only two of their last ten games. The Guardians, like
you said, went twenty and seven of the last twenty seven.

(01:15:12):
Let's talk about these two wild card series. Let me
start with that one, the three ceed versus the six
seed Cleveland and Detroit, and gets your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
I think the advantage that you have in most best
of three is you don't get the breath of the
twenty six man roster. You don't get the full impact
and depth of the twenty six man roster, and so
that can play to a team's advantage. You know, when
you look at Cleveland going twenty and seven in the
last month, and you look at the struggles that the
Tigers have had just to get in and then you

(01:15:44):
look at the last series where you know the the
Guardians may have you know, exposed Detroit a little bit
putting the ball in play, you know, small ball, putting
the game in motion, creating havoc on the base pass,
moving scooble off the mound. I'm not so sure you
won't see that again and this series. But I'm not

(01:16:04):
sure that they maybe wanted to tip their hand had
they known they were going to be playing them again
a week later.

Speaker 14 (01:16:09):
In a three game series.

Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
And so you know, momentum in the playoffs is the
next day starting pitcher and Tariq Scuebel is arguably the
best in the game. And so for what it's been,
I still think that Tigers have a decent chance.

Speaker 14 (01:16:24):
Of winning that series.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
But you know, the Cleveland it's it's all about Jose
Ramirez and Stephen Kwan.

Speaker 14 (01:16:29):
Kwan has to set the table. Jose Ramirez has to
be the guy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
That drives in the runs, and coleamn Zardo has been,
you know, somewhat of a power back in the middle
of the order. I just think that Tigers, for as
bad as they've played coming into it, their pitching is
really good and they can beat you and you know,
carry Carper, they can beat you a few more ways
offensively than the Indians can. So you know, I would
probably take Detroit in three games in that series.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Wow, okay, Tigers over Guardians and three okay? Now the
other And by the way, Gino, how good might Cleveland be?
Or maybe the chemistry in the clubhouse you know about
such things better than a lot of folks, might have
been different had they held on to Josh Naylor and

(01:17:13):
and and what would it have done to the Mariners
who clearly leaned on him. Not as much as Rawley obviously,
but he and Julio Rodriguez had big closing stretches for
the EMS.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
Yeah, I think I think there's a couple of things
you can say about Cleveland. I mean, when you talk
about the gambling investigations and the deals that they did make,
you know, Shane.

Speaker 14 (01:17:33):
Bieber are going away.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
I think that that you know, they they could look back,
but but they're very, very, you know, meticulous in what
they do. They know who they are as an organization.
They do a tremendous job and this year has been
no different. This may be the best season they've had
ever for all the things that have happened and for
them to just keep coming together.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
Steven Vote is arguably one of the best managers in baseball.

Speaker 14 (01:17:58):
He's going to be there very long time.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
And it just speaks to what they have going on
their culture wise and process wise.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Okay, let's jump to that other Wildcard series and discuss
Yankees Red Sox. I guess it probably didn't get much
better than that. I remember in twenty twenty one. I
guess it was the one year in the last thirteen
the Dodgers did not win the Nation League West. The
Giants won it by one game, like one hundred and
seven wins two hundred and six, and yet they wound
up playing in the Division Series and it was an

(01:18:26):
incredible Division Series. What about this Wildcard series between the
Yankees and Red Sox at Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
I think the fact that it's in Yankee Stadium helps
New york Er a little bit. You know, Boston won
nine of the thirteen meetings this year, they won seven
of the first eight.

Speaker 14 (01:18:42):
They can beat you different ways.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
When you talk about Jorann Durant and Raphael Sedana and
the things that they do. Trevor Story with the long ball,
Wiler a Bray you with the long ball. But the
key is going to be for me Boston's young arms
and how they're used in this series. Peyton Toley, of
kid out of Texas Christian University, has been fast tracked

(01:19:05):
to the big leagues. Michael Early, another young left hander,
has been called up in the last three weeks and
they've both come up and been very, very good. They
have a really good veteran bullpen and Justin Wilson and
Steven Matts and arguably the best closer in the history
of the game in ro Otis Chapman, and so I
feel like, if Boston can play their style of play,

(01:19:27):
they have a chance. But in a three game series
in Yankee Stadium, one swing of the bat changes everything,
and Aaron Judge has to have a great series. They're
gonna get great pitching from Max Freed and Luis Hill
and Carlos rode On, but they've got to get big
swings of the bat, two three run criok. They've got

(01:19:48):
to put up some crooked number innings for them to
be successful. And and uh, I think it's going to
be a tremendous series. If you, if you, you know,
made me really really pick one, I would say the
Yankee probably take care of business in their ballpark.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Okay, talking baseball with Geen Watson here on thirteen hundreds
un lets jump to the National League. Well, you said
back several weeks ago you thought the most dangerous team
in baseball was the Philadelphia Phillies, and they almost caught Milwaukee.
They finished one game back of them for the one seed.
So they'll be the two seed. The Brewers with the

(01:20:24):
historic season in terms of wins, ninety seven wins, so
they capture the one seed in Philadelphia. The two we've
already talked about the collapse of the Mets, who had
a chance to get in there couldn't do it. The
three seed goes to the defending champion Dodgers, who did
finish the regular season on a high note. They won
eight of their last ten and finally managed to keep

(01:20:44):
the Podreys at armslengk But the Podreis won ninety ball games.
They're the five seed. The Cubs will be at home
against the Podreys. So how about these two a wild
card series? The Cubs was the Podres and then the
Reds who just hung around and hung around, and somebody said,
you can't kill us, and they found a way to
slide in there at eighty three and seventy nine, holding

(01:21:08):
the tiebreaker over the Mets. So it'll be the Reds
at Dodgers Stadium to play Los Angeles starting tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Cubs will play the Potters. How do you see these
two wildcard series?

Speaker 14 (01:21:18):
Well, I think you got to really tip your cap
to the Reds.

Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
I mean, including myself, I didn't give them a chance
for weeks and weeks I didn't think there would be
much movement in the bottom of the nationally wild card race,
and they just kept fighting and.

Speaker 14 (01:21:32):
This is going to be a fun club.

Speaker 6 (01:21:33):
They may not last long, and they're certainly going up
against a giant in the Dodgers. But you know, Nicolodolo
is one of the best young pitchers in the game
from Texas Christian University. Andrew Abbott a really good young pitcher,
Hunter Green, who will go in Game one, a very
good young pitcher. They've got some young pitching, and they
got some young position for Elie Della Cruz will finally

(01:21:55):
get to be on a national stage, in the national audience.
We'll get a chance to watch him. Matt McClain is
a tremendous young baseball player. So the Reds are kind
of the feel good story for twenty twenty five out
of the National League. And they've got very young, talented
players with a tremendous manager. So to me, this could
be just the very beginning of them, you know, going

(01:22:16):
on a couple of year run, two, three, four, five
year run in the National League. But certainly going up
against the Dodgers is going to be very, very tough.
I just don't see where, you know, they could pull
that off. And the Cubs, you know, I really like
their position players and the way they go about at
Dansby Swanson, Michael Bush, Saya Suzuki, Pete Crow Armstrong, and

(01:22:38):
they've got a very very talented group and they're very
very tough at home in that ballpark. So the Padres
are going to have to get great production out of
Manning Manchado. Xander Bogarts, who's back from the foot injury,
is going to have to be very productive.

Speaker 14 (01:22:52):
Jake Croninworth is going to have to step up.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
But they've got to get really good starting pitching, because
the Cubs at home can put on you in a
hurry and one sing the Matt can swing that series.
Again a seven game series, I don't feel like this
as much of a series because it's three games and
all three games are Wrigley Field. I think the Cubs
have a real good chance of winning the series, but
I'll still take the Padres in three games.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Wow, Okay, all right now, I want to jump back
to the Dodgers for a moment because I saw a
couple of things today online where some people were shocked,
shocked as they called her a stunning move. Some called
that Clayton Kershaw was not added to the wild card roster,
and I didn't think it was stunning at all. He

(01:23:35):
looked great in his final level regular season start yesterday,
but it's been clear he's not going to be in
the rotation no matter how the long how long the
Dodgers are going in this thing, They're going to go
with Blake's now tomorrow. There's probably gonna be Yama motive
for Game two, and then they could pitch show Aotani
or they they could come back with Glass now if
he's resting enough, if it gets to an if necessary

(01:23:56):
Game three. And my thought on all this is that,
assuming they handle their business and beat the Reds, Kershaw
will be on the Division Series roster for the Phillies
because they're probably gonna need him out of the pen,
and he's done well out of the pen in his
two outings. And then they've got Roki Sasaki back off injury,
and they've got and they've got him and she In

(01:24:17):
back in the pen. Has been the underbelly clearly for
the Dodgers of the month of September. At times the
e er he was over five for for the bullpit.
But I wasn't shocked at Kershaw or even surprised that
he wasn't named the wild card roster, were you not
at all?

Speaker 6 (01:24:34):
And when you're when you're talking about October baseball, especially
in short series, you know, one pitch condat to decide everything,
and October baseball is about power pitching and power hitting.

Speaker 14 (01:24:46):
And he certainly knows.

Speaker 6 (01:24:48):
You know, Clayton is a ultimate professional, and he certainly
knows that when measured up against the other power arms
and the rotation, it's not going to be a fit.
And when you start looking at matchups in the lineup
you're facing, and you start looking at pockets for him
to even have an opportunity to pitch, they may not
be there. And so they certainly, you know, and they'll
have him ready to go. He'll either you know, he'll

(01:25:10):
probably you know, go to Arizona and throw the ball
around a little bit and throw some bullpens to live
hitters in Arizona, or they'll keep him in La and
do it there. But he's certainly in a seven game
series brings a little more linked ad to your roster
than he does in a series where it's shortened and
every pitch matters and power pitching is key.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Well, clearly that would be the case if they do
manage advance, because then they're playing the Phillies. Do you
still feel the Phillies are the team to beat, not
only in the National League but in all of baseball?
And we can revise this as we go forward, but
at least at the start of this postseason, do you
still feel that the Phillies are the team to be?

Speaker 14 (01:25:47):
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:25:48):
I think the Dodgers have great momentum right now. I
think they're playing good baseball. They've got so much versatility
and depth to their roster. But the Phillies are just
kind of below the radar. They've got an out of
all offense. They're very, very tough to be in their
ballpark in Philadelphia. Have they not had the injuries that
they've had to that rotation this year, they would clearly

(01:26:09):
be the best team in baseball. But I certainly feel
like they have a chance to be the best team
in the National League moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Okay, and then finally, your thoughts on the two one
seats that being Toronto in the American League and Milwaukee
in the National League.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
Well, great stories in two different styles of play. Toronto
has done an amazing job when they really struggled in
the first half, They've addressed their pitching and they've done
a great job, and they've come together as a unit offensively.
And you talk about a really difficult place to play,
Rogers Center is no joke. It's more of a European
soccer crowd than it is a baseball crowd. And so

(01:26:43):
they're going to be very, very, very very tough to
play in Milwaukee. What can you say about Pat Murphy?
They they played just an incredible style of baseball. They
do all the little things right on the baseball field,
and you've got to come with your a game to
beat them, because they're going to do all the little
things every night what it takes to win a baseball game.
But those are two really, really good teams. And when

(01:27:05):
you look at Seattle, you know they're gonna pitch. Naylor's
been huge for them. They're feeling it a little bit
out there in Seattle. And as I said in August,
I felt like Seattle and Philly might be the two
best teams in baseball.

Speaker 14 (01:27:18):
And I'm gonna stick with that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
All right, Okay, by the way, and we close with this,
our resident Guardians fan just checked it in and said,
we don't hit, we just win.

Speaker 14 (01:27:28):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
I just find ways to win, and that starts with
Jose Ramirez and and Max Kwan. They do a great
job Stephen Kuwan, and they have the one to arguably
the best manager in baseball, and they find a way
to get it done every night. And that that's going
to be an electric place and that's gonna be a
lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
He's Gene Watson, and we'll we'll preview the division series
when those come about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Will do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
You know, I appreciate the time. Thanks so much for
joining us as always.

Speaker 14 (01:27:55):
Okay, guys, take care, Thanks so much.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
All.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
That's Dean Watson from the Chicago White Sox are MLB
in so he likes to review the in review. He
likes the Tigers, the six seed, to beat the three seed,
the Guardians in three games, yep. And he likes the
Yankees to beat the Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah, he didn't say how many. I just feel like
if Roman Anthony was playing, maybe a different story. But yeah,
I I'll go Yankees there too.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
And then in the Nation League, he likes the Cubs
to beat the Padres and he likes the Dodgers to
beat the Reds.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
He went, he went San Diego. That's right, he did
he did.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
He picked the padres in three, So he picked the
podres In three, and he picked the Dodgers to beat
the Reds to win that series.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
And I think his point's exactly right. I was going
to ask him if he didn't bring it up. Does
the fact that this is such a short series. I
feel like in that series more than any other, it
plays into the cub's favor It does, and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
And I don't know that it necessarily plays some Dodgers favorite.
Remember two years ago they got swept by the Diamondbacks
who went onto the World Series and and they ended
up they ended up losing that series. So but we'll
see it, will see if it works out for them
now that they seem to have the training back on
the tracks there in La.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
We'll find out, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
We'll hear more from Coach Sart coming up on thirteen
Under the Zone. My all time favorite minute works so
well done by Colin Hey the end of Night in
Ringo stars all star man overkill because we do live
in a society of overkill from time to time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
You don't you agree, Jake?

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Yeah, I saw that this weekend, did you. I won't
get too specific, but yeah, I mean I went to
the well, I'll tell the story now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
I went.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
I went to the Savannah Bananas and the Texas Tailgaters
at Daiken Park in Yeah, I'm crowd, sold out crowd,
Yeah I had. I went with my girlfriend. She's from Houston.
She's been a diehard Astros fan her whole life. She's
never seen it that full. However, there's just so much

(01:30:01):
going on. The song is changed every fifteen seconds. There's tricks,
that high jinks going on everywhere you look. It was
a little bit of overkilled, but I had an amazing time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
It's a sensory overload, it really is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
It was, and that's what I told my friend Brett,
who I was there to support. He was on the
show Friday talking a little bit about his journey. I
almost prefer the broadcast experience of it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Sarcus was talking about earlier in this hour about the
overkill of the attentional quarterbacks when so many other parts
are a big part of the success at college football team.
So he was then asked, in turning attention to going
back on the road, about the road environment and Mike

(01:30:47):
the season opening trip to Columbus pay some dividends for
dealing with a road environment like they may see on
Saturday afternoon in Gainesville.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
I think it can definitely help us. Again, I didn't
think as a team we were overwhelmed in the environment.
You know, we had a I think we had a
couple of fall starts, and I think there were Brandon
Baker might have had two of them. And it was
his first career start, you know, playing tackle. So I
do think our poison composure is going to be a
critical ingredient to the way we play Saturday. It's gonna

(01:31:16):
be loud, We're gonna be putting some adverse situations that
might be raining, you know, So there'll be some things
that that will come up in the game. But I
think staying connected and leaning into one another and not
feel like as an individual player, I'm isolated that I'm
there by myself.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
We we've got our we've got our group going with us,
and everybody's got to have each other back and supporting
each other and picking each other up, you know, through
the adversity as it presents itself.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
So then he was asked about we got a chance
to see Arch really flash some emotion and all that
other stuff with the Sam Houston game, and uh is
is that a good thing?

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
And is he able to put the university behind him?

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
I think part of it is, you know, Arch has
got more emotion in him then quit and they're different
humans and that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that. And
so sometimes you know, when you when you throw an
interception or you make a play that that isn't you know,
one that you wish you made, It's okay to show
a little emotion then too, like that, that's not the

(01:32:15):
end of the world. He's some way, shape or form.
You got to get it out of you, you know.
And Quinn's was his ability was just to kind of
let it flow through. Arch may need to scream and
yell for a second, that's okay too. Like we've seen,
We've seen great competitors for decades that in their own
way celebrate get bit bad plays out, pick up teammates

(01:32:35):
in their own way. And that's why I think it's
important for Arch to be Arch and not try to
be something that he's not.

Speaker 10 (01:32:41):
And so.

Speaker 5 (01:32:43):
I hope we're not answering this question how did Arch
respond to the pick Saturday? But if it does, I
just want him to respond naturally whatever naturally comes to him,
let it happen, and then move forward.

Speaker 7 (01:32:54):
And I think that that'll serve him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Best, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
And then finally one more from sark about he was asked,
who other than Arch should all of us be focused
in on as to it might deliver on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:33:07):
The other ten guys out there with him, you know,
I mean, and I'm saying that not to I'm saying
that really because this is the ultimate team sport, and
it takes all eleven every play to execute and to
do the things that we want to do, especially on
the offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 7 (01:33:27):
You know, on defense, a guy can make a.

Speaker 5 (01:33:30):
Mistake, a corner could get beat on a double move,
but you get a great pass rush by your three technique.

Speaker 7 (01:33:36):
You're a defensive end. You sacked the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
Nobody really sees if the corner got beat, and vice versa.

Speaker 7 (01:33:42):
On offense, man, when.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
A guy runs the wrong route, the quarterback holds the ball,
then he gets sacked. We think about what's wrong with
the quarterback and what's wrong with the offensive line, or
the receivers run a great route and the quarterback wants
to throw.

Speaker 7 (01:33:55):
It really good.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
The right guard gets beat, the quarterback gets sacked, and
everyone's like, oh, he was wide open. Well, everything has
to tie it together. And I think that's what we
all need to understand that it takes all eleven every
play it takes. It takes execution, and it takes you know,
execution in the details. You know, we tell the players
all the time excellence lies in the details. And so

(01:34:18):
now that we've laid the foundation, now we've got to
be really detailed and why we're calling what we're calling,
what we're trying to attack. Right, if it's not that
look that we're trying to attack, what are auxiliary?

Speaker 7 (01:34:30):
Wise? Where can the ball go? How are we going
to block this front?

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
So on and so forth, And so it takes all
eleven to play that way, to play with the level
of consistency that we want to play with. You know,
we don't want to play one plays great, the next
play is bad, one plays great, the next play bad.
I'd like to play with a real level of consistency,
and then over time you'll find those explosive plays. And
Arch is no different. He falls in that same category.

(01:34:54):
His level of consistency has got to be at an
all time high. Over the next eight weeks or so,
but that's for the other ten guys around him as well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
All Right, we'll be back to wrap up today. He's
programming on thirteen under the Zone

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