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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the program here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hunder the Zone.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
My name he is Craig Way. Glad to have you
with us.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Here on a Friday as we get you ready for
the weekend, the first full weekend of the NFL preseason,
which got underway last night. The Dallas Cowboys will play
tomorrow night at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles against the Rams,
and the Texas played this weekend as well. But Jamie,
(00:31):
when you're talking last night, do you ever feel like
I'm talking? Yes, sometimes I feel like I'm talking. That
happens on occasion. We have a two headed monster producing
the program this afternoon. Of course, our regular producer sitting
alongside is Cameron D.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The D on the birth certificate is as in Dallas,
as in that NFL team that was his dad's favorite,
And is it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Still your dad's favorit team, by the way, can.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I think so? You know, if they were playing the
Super Bowl, he would probably root for them, But at
this point, I don't know. He's he's pretty far out.
He's a little jaded on America's team. Yeah, a little
soured on him.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, well, you kind of are too, but you're at
least going into this with a little more of an
open mind with Yeah, with Brian Schotthimer, right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I think I can probably I can actually name players
on the team. I'm not sure he knows who the
left tackle is or if he actually cares, the left
tackle is the Dallas.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Cowboys, right, Okay, all right, but he's he normally roots
for the uniform, yeah he, I mean he grew up.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Roger Staubach is his favorite football player of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Good call, good call, Roger the Dodger Captain America.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But all of Jarry Jones has really done a great
job of just taking his diehard fans and just removing
them from their lives. You know, it's incredible. He's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You know, he's been doing that a long time. I
mean it even started his first year year, you know,
when he was owner and he took away the blue
parking coupons and redistributed and resold and all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, what's that I need to bactice of blue parking coupons?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, when the Cowboys for years, when they moved into
Texas Stadium in nineteen seventy one, they when they moved
over midway through the seventy one season. By the way,
they played the first two or three home games at
the Cotton Bowl where they'd been playing since nineteen sixty
when the franchise started and they moved over to Texas
Stadium like in October of seventy one. And at that time,
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the way that it was set up for parking, there
was a tiered system for parking based on three colors, blue, red,
and yellow. Now, the yellow was the furthest out. If
you remember how Texas Stadium was set up, it was
at the confluence of State Highways one eighty three, Spur
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forty two, and Loop twelve. Is the way was in
that triangular area so that people could come from different directions.
It was actually kind of laid out pretty well, and
the yellow parking was across the freeways on the other
side there was a pedestrian bridge and all that stuff
that was pretty far out. Then there was the red
parking also across the freeway but closer to the state
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and the blue was the blue parking was the primal
parking that was on the stadium side of the freeway
and it ringed around the stadium.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That was always the coveted thing is the blue parking.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The Cowboys under their ownership of Clint Murkison and the
you know, the management of general manager Tech Shram, when
Tom Landy was the coach, they had a system that
they seasoned ticket holders got the blue parking and they
took care of the media, and the media got blue
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parking and other people got blue parking. And when Jerry
he came in, he took command of the blue parking
and pretty much just wiped out. You know, if you
were a season ticket oil, it's great, he'd love to
have you back to the season ticket oll, but that
didn't necessarily mean you were going to get blue parking.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And so.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Right before our first show, when I was doing the
Jerry Jones Show two years in a row, I was warned,
people may call angry as a call in show. You know,
people may call in angry about the blue parking. Let's
make sure we get the call screened. And I said, okay.
So I told the producer that hey want to make sure. Okay, fine,
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So Jerry's on the phone. And I mentioned this before
that when the two years I did Jerry Jones show,
I never did it face to face with him. He
was always on the phone or out of Alley Ranch,
or one time he was in a plane going I said,
where are you, Jerry? I'm flying down to the Lareda.
And there was one time when I said where are
you to night, Jerry, and I asked him, I'm in Stuttgard,
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Arkansas for a ducks on limit to benefit, you know.
So there'd be different things that he was out for,
but I never I never did the show face to
face with him ever. He was always on the phone
somewhere or whatever, and I was either at the radio
station or at the Valley Ranch studios. And so we
get to when we'd have our opening segment. We're talking
about the team, well hypothetically fundamentally relative to wins, you know,
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he felt he felt good about things. And so we
go to the phones and the first four callers are
all I want.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
To ask you about the blue parking.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Why was it taken away?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And he was and he was very diplomatic about it.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well and uh, you know the people a season ticket
holders relative too, and he was going on through the stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
We get to the break.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I pitched the brake and I'm looking at the producer
through the glass like you were supposed to screen the car,
and the guy's like holding his arms out like I
did or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So we get to the break and I.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Pulled the the the pop meter down and you hear Jerry,
and you go, Greg, you.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Think wing screening these calls? I'm about to hang up
the damn phone.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And then he started laughing, and I said, Jerry, the
producer says, they're asking legitimate but they said they want
to talk about this or that or what. And then
when they get on the air, they switch gears and
he laughing is, yeah, I figured that'd probably be the case.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So Blue Parking.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, So Jerry's been at this for a while in
terms of disenfranchising fans, it has, but everybody kind of
forgot about it when they had their great run in
the nineties, the back to back Super Bowls, three super
Bowls in four years, and that last one in ninety
five was the last time they were in a conference
championship game, let alone a super Bowl. So that's why
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it's going to play a little hotter to people these days.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
You know, honestly, give Jerry credit because when he's asked
these questions, he actually doesn't answer them. Now his answers
may be six minutes long, and that actually answer the question,
right what a lot of coaches, players, people would just say,
I'm entering that next question. Yeah, he'll take it, he'll
answer it, and he'll talk. And whether you like to
answer or not give him credit for at least that
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portion of it, even if he does labron about the
relative dude, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Or if it gets confrontational, which sometimes it does a
little sharper on some of that. So anyway, we do
have a Jerry Jones story. And initially I was going
to put it inconceivable, but it's but for Jerry, it's
certainly not inconceivable. In fact, it's quite conceivable because we've
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heard of similar things in mass But the headline in
the Dallas Morning News online thing says, and this came
down just past noon today. Trial and sexual assault lawsuit
against Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones delayed again. The trial
is set to begin Monday in Dallas County's one hundred
and sixtieth District Court, but it's been delayed again. This
rescheduling marks the third time that the case has been
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delayed since an initial trial date was set for March
eighteenth of twenty twenty four. Then it was pushed to
March third of twenty twenty five, before being delayed the Monday,
and the trial day was pushed again by mutual agreement
at both parties. According to an administrator in the one
hundred sixtieth District Court in Dallas County where the case
is being tried, a pre trial hearing set for Thursday
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this past week had also been canceled. A new date
for the trial had not been set as a midday today.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Now, this is not the case.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
About his daughter, where neither party had to say that
was settled. This was about the deal back in twenty
eighteen when a woman alleged that Jones kissed and groped
her without consent at at and T Stadium following the
Cowboys game.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So I wonder if that was the game that I
was at in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's when they dedicated the Bradsham Broadcast booth, and I
got invited up there to be there for that. When
you've seen the booth and you at eighteen and T Stadium,
the atch Hamberg radio boot, it's amazing. It's amazing with
the big wall mural and stuff with photos of him
and well disarmed. So they invited several of us back
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to be there for it, and I came up for that.
It was a Sunday night game against the Giants in
twenty eighteen, and I went back up to that. But
in addition, the suit was filed in September twenty twenty.
It was dismissed in February twenty twenty two, but it
was reopened by a State of Pellet court in February
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twenty twenty three. In addition to Jones, the suit names
the Dallas Cowboys football Club as a defendant. In previous filings,
Jones and the team had denied the woman's allegations, calling
them malicious and hurtful. So yeah, somebody comment and said
delay negotiating a settlement, Jerry slithers around another issue. Whether
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that's the case or not, that was I think that
came down on Jerry. Okay, here's what we've got coming
down on today's show. Coming up, we're gonna hear some
more Longhorn football player sound.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
We have that coming up.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
We have inconceivable and Cam, we do know what inconceivable?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
On Friday evening Friday, do we know if our producer
antone is familiar with Fridays and inconceivable.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, well we're about to find out. See I said
we had a two headed monster. This Antone like him
is our other producer today because he's like, what learning
the ropes from you? Is that how this works? Yeah?
You call it that, Okay, But we have a bonus
today because in the three o'clock hour, Antone, whom we've
introduced to everybody over the past few weeks as a
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guy who works here with promotions but also is an
accomplished drummer. He plays in the band Whisk. You guys
have a gig this weekend?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We do.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
We're actually we're playing a secret show, private party in
Sam Marcus on Saturday night for a handsome amount of money.
I'm not allowed to disclose the fashion around that. But
next week we are going to be in Dallas at
Club Data on the fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Now you've arrived playing a Data Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It is hopefully make it back after the show.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But what we are, But what we're going to have
Anton do is take the music survey. We do the
music survey every Friday in the three o'clock hour during
the summer, and Anton's going to take it, but we're
also going to have you want to talk about into
the Yang about this? Uh so you have Anton, what
would you describe your position at the radio station and
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the iHeart family. I'm a promo kid, all right, promo kid.
So you have a promo kid in it? How old
are you? I'm twenty three, twenty three all right, So
you have a promo kid in twenty three year old
antone like them taking the music survey, and we have
somebody else taking the music survey simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Like when my wife Linda and I took it the
next week.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Chip Jellison, who is our executive vice president and chief
technology officer, fancy he does.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
We'll have to ask him more about it.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
What its title is.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, I didn't know he was that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
He's kind of a big deals Chip jealous.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So Chip is also going to take the music survey.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So that's why I say to the Yang, we're going
to failure to come at it from two different angles
and see where this leads us. So that'll be in
the three o'clock hour, four o'clock hour. Geene Watson, the
personal director of Chicago White Sox. Out of the White
Sox front office joins us for a weekly conversation to
talk some Major League Baseball, several of the races getting tighter,
and now that the dust is set on the smoke
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has cleared from the trade deadline stuff, teams settling in
for the stretch drive, so we'll have Gino on as
well to talk about what's going on in the leaks.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
We have that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
We also, as always, are more than happy to take
your questions, your comments, your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
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and the one other thing that we're going to do
that we've been doing, this is the last day that
we're doing it, but we're going to give away a
copy two copies of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine. We've
been giving them away for three weeks now and this
is the final day of the giveaway, and I may
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go completely different and how we give this way We've
been asking questions and things like that, and it's and
it's revealed some winners. But we're going but I may
do something completely different. I'm thinking about this. We're going
to do that in the four o'clock hour as well.
All right, So we got a lot on our plates
today with us. It is Friday afternoon. We're glad to
have you with us right here on Sports Radio AM
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thirteen under the zone fire Me Up Friday. So you know,
the musical selections of the Fire Me Up Friday fall
squarely on the shoulders of Cameron Parker.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So were you always a Van Halen fan?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
This is not me, this is our our producer.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Oh and yeah, okay, okay, you like you like Van Aleen?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I dig me some Van Halen, the early Van Haleen
with David Lee Roths or the semi Hagar.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Van No, no, no, I'm an leave Roth and Diamond day.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You know when I worked, when I worked Van Halen
concerts when I was in college and I was putting
myself through school, and I worked for either the band
or the or the arena, and we sold merch t shirts,
the long sleeved t shirts which we called jerseys back
then you know, whatever other stuff that was. David Lee
Roth was always quite the performer, and so we worked.
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I worked three or four different segments of Van Halen
tours where they would play a reunion ring in Dallas,
the Summit in Houston which is now Joelo's Teens Church,
while there's that, the the Lloyd Noble Center in Norman,
Oklahoma and uh and then also occasionally in Oklahoma and
Oklahoma City and what was called the Myriad and then
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later the Cox Conventions and across the street from where
the thunderplay.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But he had a knack, you know, supposedly.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
The the the word is in the documentaries they all
say that the bands are told the lead singers that
in addition to the set list, the other thing that
is taped up is what city you're in so that
you don't forget it, because there's there's been instances of artists.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Forgetting, Hey, Chicago great to be with in Detroit not good.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
So there's all that h and but David Lee Roth
was always really good at knowing where he was because
he had a patented phrase he would say every time.
For example, he would start out in Dallas at Region
Arena and he come in and who knows where he'd
been the night before, whatever, and they'd get to a
musical interlude stuff and he would walk out gallous, you kick, Yes,
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I go crazy, man. You people are effing crazy. And
then they go crazy again next night in Houston, Houston
you kick.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, people are eving crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Then two nights later Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You can't. So he knew where he was. He was.
He was good at that and playing to the audience
on that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I have a similar chick for remembering people's first names.
Oh yeah, Yeah, it's usually just like that, just a city.
You're no, just like Adrian, You're a crazy man, You're
wild man, You're real cool and I mean it.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But you know, it's a way to help you do it. Yeah,
repetition comes uh. Speaking of reps. Uh, long worn football
team going towards workout. They have a scrimmage tomorrow. Leonga
Lafoul junior linebacker now who has kind of made a
name for himself on special teams and then also just
with the ferocity of his play when he has been
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on the field the past a couple of seasons. Was
one of the long Orange visiting with the media yesterday
and hears some conversation with the long orange junior linebacker
Leonga la foul.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Trey has good snaptop as here.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know he could talk.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
But we enjoy it because you know, it brings the energy,
brings the juice to practice, fires us up on the defense,
and it pushes us to you know, come out there
and compete every day.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So it's exciting.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
We really enjoy when not only him, when the whole
offense is talking, we get talk too, and it just
brings a you know, another level to the competition that
you know we go to go out every day.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Is the art to tackle all of our running backs.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
They run pretty well, you know, so I'll say, you know,
it's not easy to tackle them. But if we, you know,
stick to our techniques and they see to their techniques
as well, you know, sometimes you it'll be harder for
you know, each our side needs back. What as you say,
he just you know, lets us know when he makes
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it a good play or when the offense makes a
good play.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
He lets the defense know. So when we make a
good play, we gotta let them know as well.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
The year three, the same partner that feels like you're
time tring to get you your own best player.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Yeah, I'd say the biggest difference is just the transition
from being the young guy to now being the older guy.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
From like year two to year three.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Last year, we still had older guys on our team,
who you know, they did a great job bringing us
up and taking us in. And now that me and
Ant are kind of the older guys along with Trey,
we're kind of, you know, trying to do the same
with the young guys because we know how how big
of an impact it is for us as the older
guys to bring the young guys along. And it's been
well because young guys been doing a great job. They've
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been pushing us just as much as we push them.
So it's exciting.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Trey Moore his transition from edge to linebacker, what you know,
talk to us about that.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
How smooths the transition?
Speaker 9 (19:15):
Then?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
How difficult is that transition?
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean that's not a hard transition at all,
especially in the level that we play at.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I mean, he's been doing a great job. He's he's
a very smart player.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
He's he learned the playbook pretty fast, and now he's
just a little little movements and transitions here and there,
like dropping into coverage and all of those things he's
doing a good job of, like getting extra work in
to learn how to do that at a high level.
So I think he's doing a great job.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
You lose a duo like Barons of the draft, because
that's a little one. When I saw you and the
rest of at your grips to kind of get the playmakers.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
On the.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
And it's also exciting to see, you know, the younger
guys who are just as talented as you know, the
people we we lost. It's exciting to see them, you know,
step up and make plays and build up their confidence
to go and get ready for week one.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Who out to you among those young guys secondary.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
In the secondary, I feel like we're all we're all
doing great job, you know, trying to build off each other,
learn from each other. And uh, I'm not sure, but
young guys in the linemarker room, like you know, Tie
and Bold, they're doing a great job. Especially I'm thankful
for a Tie because he's pushing us every single day,
bringing the right energy, bringing the right juice every time
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he makes a play. You know, he plays very very physical,
very violent, so it's we enjoy you know, the young guys.
Speaker 10 (20:42):
If you came in with and he'll pay y'all were tired.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
This could be his last year here.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
See last year y'all played together, y'all talked about that,
talk about what y'all want from the season.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
We try not to, you know, we try to just
focus on what we can control, which is, you know,
our effort and our and our intent and everything we
do daily. But you know, we understand, like we understand
what what may happen after this year whatever, but we
we enjoy every moment. You know, it's been a it's
been a long ride in last two two to three years,
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so we enjoyed.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
What do y'all want from this year?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Sorry, what are y'all's expectations as a defense this season?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
I mean, we we hope to you know, pick it
up where we left last year and hopefully step it
up a notch. And you know, obviously our big goals
as a team is to win the national championship. So
whatever we can we can do on defense to you know,
help to push our team to win the national championship,
that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
And though how has us communication and chemistry kind of
wrong with the end of summer and all of course were.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Campship for Yeah, So our big thing about us is
we came in together. So like, you know, we ran
with the Threes together when we first came in our
first spring, so we understand how like even as as
we're the older guys now, we understand like, okay, we're
gonna need the threes at one point because they're the
young guys who we were in their shoes at once.
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So we're trying our best to bring them along. And
as we try to bring them along, you know, it
just builds a good chemistry among all of the linebackers.
So like whoever's in there, whatever combination of linebackers are
in there, we can you know, we have the right
communication and we could trust each other and without even
saying anything, we can communicate and do the do the
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right thing.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Fence. Sure, what can people expect from Brad Spence?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Very a physical and violent player. He's exciting to watch, sir.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
From your effective on defense?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
What what of your impressions ben if Jack Andrey so
far and what he's going to.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Do Jackson, I mean, as a linebacker, we we play
a lot of coverage on him, and he blocks down
on us.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And the thing that stands out the most is his
effort every play.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
I mean, he gives good effort a run game, in
the pass game, you know, like he wants to he
wants to do that stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
There's not a lot of tight.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Ends who want to block and run routes, so I
mean just that and then he's good at doing both
as well. So he's it's a good challenge for us
and we're happy we got him because he pushes us
every single days.
Speaker 10 (23:16):
One situations, are you seeing a lot of CJ backs
here so far?
Speaker 11 (23:19):
And how's he kind of looking in terms of his
movement and what he might be as an.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Actors yere, Yeah, he's picking he's picking up where he
left I mean, they're they're pushing him in slowly. They
don't want to, you know, rush him in and uh
and push him to you know, pass the pass away,
you know, but he's doing a great job picking up
where he left off.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So yeah, got a lot of actual pass rushers in
the back group and he'll get their spense as well.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
As that's say you're trying to work kind of looking
at Druger.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Gal the mean whatever, you know, whatever we can do
to help the team, that's what we want to do.
So if they need me to pass rush, I'll pass rush.
We have a lot of great pass rushers, so I'm
probably gonna play off the ball a lot more, but
I'll work on it if we need it.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
The campus sech a grind and you guys are wanting
far away from you know, where you want to hopefully
be playing your or I'm curious, how often are you
guys talking about that goal of the national championship and
how does that help when you're trying to get too
all days this summer?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Right, Yeah, so it's kind of something we're in the
beginning of fall camp. You know, we're gonna hit on
the point of this is where we want to be.
It's the national championship. But we can't put too much
focus on the national championship. We have to come out
every single day and the coaches do a great job
reminding us that this is our main goal. But we
have to do the work every single day to reach
the goal. We can't skip any steps. We can't, you know,
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skip any days. We got to stack days. They our
coach actually hit it and he called it the summit.
So we were like climbing up a summit. Right now
we're at the bottom, trying to you know, work our
way up to the national championship. So that's kind of
what we're doing with just taking it day by day
and trying to win every day.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Go want to know every day how good is pass
Hopefully they pick up as where they left so hopefully great.
It's there.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So there it is leannge Lafoul from the media availability yesterday,
one of the leaders on defense and the guy will
certainly rotate in and be a big factor also on
special teams. Okay, coming up next, we bring you in
Conceivable for a Friday right here on thirteen under the Zone,
third and final hour of the program. Here on thirteen
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hundred of the Zone, Craig Way joined by Cameron Parker
antone like I'm alongside as well. Glad to have you
with us on a Friday afternoon, and we're with you
for another hour of the program. Coming up here in
a little bit, we're going to visit with Geene Watson
from the Chicago White Sox front office get our weekly
Major League Baseball fix and update.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Also later this hour, we hear from Malik Muhammad Manny Mohammed.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
As we know, I'm long Horn's a junior corner who
is come a long way and is the guy who's
now starting at that boundary corner spot for Texas.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
On the subject of football, there was an article.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
On ESPN's website where and it's a little bit of
a misnomer if you just take the headline verbatim. The
headline is ranking all one hundred and thirty six FBS
teams in tiers and.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's t I e r s, not t E A
rs like you're crying or something like that. And what
it basically was.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I found it interesting in that it was an amalgam
of different categories that they used to rank. Not let's
say this is the best team in the country and
this is number two, and this is number ten, number three,
or and so on and so forth. They took categories
and therefore it helped create a ranking system. And David Hale,
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who put it together, said that, you know, we've been
doing it this way for years, where we had polls
decide everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Said people don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
We had coaches deciding that they don't know what they're
talking about and then it was computers of the BCS,
so that a computer is biased.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That didn't do that. Then it's a college football Playoff committee.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And they don't get it right either. So it was
kind of like this combo meal of everything on the platter,
and like I said, they broke it down into tears.
And here's here's an example of them. What they call
Tier one A is a great matchup for Week one
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and or the championship game. Well, there's only two teams
on that Ohio State in Texas. And they said last
season Ohio State won a national championship, and according to
virtually every coach we'd asked, the Buckeyes were the most
talented team in the country all along. Only if the
playoff had waited one more year to expand, Ohio State
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would have missed out, and Brian, they might have been
looking for a job.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's a valid point.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So then it goes on about the twelve team playoff
here and say saying that this had been really interesting.
Would the twenty twenty four campaign had been more fun
if Ohio State had been left out because the loss
of Michigan now the probably a lot of long worn
fins would have been okay with that anyway. In the
twelve team playoff eras they match, as they mentioned, the
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first showdown between Ohio State and Texas will be but
an appetizer in the schools will remain the two most
likely to hoist the trophy in late January. So it's
a great lead off game. That's why it's a great
matchup for Week one. Tier one B is the best.
The rest of the best three teams Georgia, Oregon, Penn State.
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Then Tier two playoff expectations six schools Alabama, Clemson, Miami, Michigan,
Notre Dame, LSU, followed by Tier three. Someone in the
SEC has to lose games too. Who got six schools
listed Florida, Oklahoma, Ole, Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, A
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and M Tier four last year's playoff surprises four teams
Arizona State, Boise State, Indiana SMU. Tier five so hot
right now, four teams Illinois, Louisville, Texas Tech, Utah.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Tier six.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
The Big twelve is the new ACC Coastal four teams Baylor,
Iowas State, Kansas State, TCU.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
What they mean by that is they say.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
You ever played credit card roulette? When the bill comes
at a restaurant, Everyone at the table puts their credit
card into a hat, then the server picks one out
at random to pay the entire bill. That's effectively how
the Big twelve is looking right now in this analogy, though,
Texas Tech should probably be picking up any checks looking
at the betting markets, and every team in the conference
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is projected to win between five and a half eight
and a half games this season. So for the names
into a hat and pulling out likely to get it,
you're as likely to get right as we are. That's
why he listed those four Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State,
TCU Tier seven flying beneath the radar like Tom Cruise
and Maverick. Five teams Georgia Tech, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, and Washington.
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Tier eight regression to the mean, the bad kind. Five
schools BYU, Duke, Missouri, Syracuse, Vanderbilt. Tier nine regression to
the mean the good kind for four teams Auburn, Florida State,
NC State, Virginia Tech. Tier ten A the Big tens
ticking clocks. Three teams Nebraska, USC and Wisconsin where people
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are getting ants in those places.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Fan groups.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Tier ten B is the group of six's other top
playoff contenders. They're six schools Liberty, Memphis, James Madison, Toledo, Tulane,
UNLV Tierra eleven potential sleepers. Seven teams Cincinnati, Colorado, Houston,
North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Rutgers in Virginia. Tier twelve, Even Stevens,
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seven teams Arkansas, Boston College, cow Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan State,
UCLA saying they're all pretty clear, pretty close. Tier thirteen
the Stars and Stripes, Force, Air Force, Army, Navy. Tier
fourteen room for improvement. Six teams Arizona, Northwestern Oklahoma State, UCF,
wake Forest, West Virginia. Tier fifteen a group of six
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with upside. Fifteen teams Appalachian State, Buffalo, East Carolina, Florida, Atlantic,
Fresno State, Louisiana, Ohio, North Texas, South Alabama, Texas State, Troy, Yukon,
South Florida, UTSA in Western Kentucky. Tier sixteen A at
least you tried. Three teams Mississippi State, Purdue in Stanford.
That's mainly because of their schedules. Tier sixteen be the
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Lost Boys. Two teams Oregon State, Washington State left from
the PAC twelve. That they're reconstituting Tier seventeen. They're fine, solid, decent, okay.
Ten teams Arkansas State, Bowling Green, Colorado State, Georgia, Southern
of Ohio, Northern Illinois, Old Dominion, San.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Diego State, and San Jose State. Utah State. Tier eighteen.
We could be talked into them. Eight teams Coastal.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Carolina, Hawaii, Uel, Monroe, Louisiana, Texam, Houston, Southern miss Uab Wyoming.
Tier nineteen is the best entertainment you're likely to find
on a Tuesday night in mid November. Twelve teams Central Michigan, Delaware,
Eastern Michigan, Florida International, Jacksonville State, Marshall, Missouri State, Nevada, Temple, Tulsa, UTEP,
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Western Michigan. And then finally Tier twenty Participation trophy trophies
eleven teams Akron Ball State, Charlotte, Georgia State, Kennesa State,
Kent State, Massachusetts, Middle Tennessee, New Mexico, New Mexico State,
and Rice. They say, you know what they call the
guy who finishes last in his class at medical school,
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They call him doctor.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And so it is with the teams in Tier twenty
that are technically.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
FBS football programs, though they're as likely to finish with
a conference championship as they are to finish medical school themselves.
All right, up next, we talked some baseball. Gene Watson
joins us, and we continue on thirteen Under the Zone.
We'll continue on a Friday afternoon here on sports menwo
am thirteen under the Zone, and it's time for our
weekly conversation, our weekly baseball conversation with a good friend,
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director player personnel for the Chicago White Sox, Gene Watson.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Who joins us. Now, GENO, how's life, How's things going?
Speaker 10 (33:27):
Hi, guys, Good to actually see you guys.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
How about that? It's good, good to have you with us.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Okay, I have to start with something, and this is
eventually leading to something substantial, but I have to start
with this. There was a story today, and you know
several of the parties involved with this type of thing,
but there's a story today on ESPN about the manager
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of the Milwaukee Brewers, Pat Murphy, and now he has
these strange eating habits. Now, now you have people very
very close to you, very well regarded national name, national
names who affectually refer to you s snacs. But I
don't think you can hold a candle to what this
guy is doing. So Murphy goes viral in a recent
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interview for pulling a pancake out of his uniform pocket
and taking a bite, and he shared it with the reporters.
He detailed different ways that he shoves food into his
pockets to snack on in the dugout. They asked him,
you know what all do you put in there? He said, waffles, pancakes, pizza.
Somebody said, how do you do pizza without staining your uniform?
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He said, well, if it's cold pizza, you folded up
like a sandwich. He said, you know what I mean,
you can eat it during the game and then when
to wear a hoodie. I have the pocket right here
and it's full of crumbs. So he has all this stuff.
So now the Brewers are going to sell Murph's pocket
Pancakes an American family field during Sunday games for the
rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Start with this weekend series against the Mets, where.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
You can get a ball four pocket pack that features
four pocket pancakes and a choice of maple syrup or
strawberry compo for four ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
They also have a double chicken in Pancakes.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Pocket Pack seven ninety nine includes two pancakes stuffed with
a chicken tender each and top with chopped bacon and
a maple syrup drizzle.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
My question to you about this, Gino, is it.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
If anybody was playing better than the Milwaukee Brewers right
now in the field, it might make sense for them
to do someone with the Brewers as hot as they
are right now. This is kind of adds to the
intrigue and the attraction of the Milwaukee Brewers these days,
doesn't it.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
They really play clean baseball, and that's kind of their identity.
They do a great job of player development wise. I
would slow down on the heake it out do me
on the snacks because I got my I got my
nickname Snacks because I had a Snickers bar melt in
my back pocket during a game while I was on
the mound.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
So I but Murph and I have a lot of
fun with each other, you know.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
He was the head coach at Notre Dame in nineteen
eighty eight when I was a freshman at Saint Edwards,
and they actually did that Southern tour every year where
they would come in and play Saint Mary's Texas Lutheran Saint.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Edwards Southwestern, and we actually upset them.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
And so while we don't know each other well, I
make sure that he hears about that loss at least
once a month, and he proclaims that the worst loss
of his career.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
But you know, the Brewers are just They have a
great identity.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
They probably play the cleanest baseball in all of Major
League Baseball, which is a testimony to their player development system.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
They teach the game right.
Speaker 9 (36:44):
They don't have guys come to the major league level
and are surprised by anything that happens, any situations. They
work on bunning, they're sticklers on defense, cutting hitting, cut
off men, base running. They do all the little things right.
And that's a toeestimony their player development, the way they
go about things, and it's playing out on the field
with a great identity to boom.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I met Pat Murphy when he was coaching Arizona State
when they when they played Texas. And then it's funny
how baseball works, you know, because all of the conversation
seemed to be at the time when Craig Counsel left
the Brewers to go to the Cubs, was all about
Craig counsel and the type of manager he was and
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the type of player he'd been and all this sort
of stuff, and Murphy was kind of the forgotten man
about that deal. But he's made his own mark with
this team, hasn't he.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
He really has.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
And there are people that tell you that it was
long overdue for him to get an opportunity to be
a major league manager. But it also speaks to you, know,
this is and forever be a player's game, And if
you have talented players, you've got a chance to be
very successful if you can, if you can win them
over and show them, you know, hold them accountable, you
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have a chance to be successful. And I think you
can look back over history guys like Joe Tory, guys
like Tony LaRussa, guys like Bobby Cox who were in
places that didn't have a lot of success and they
went to other places and had great players and they
ended up being Hall of Fame managers. So it will
forever be a player's game. But winning the room and
holding the players accountable is a big part of it,
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and Murphy is certainly very.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Good at that.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
The Brewers have seventy wins, are the first team to
get to seventy this season, and then after that, you
just have a whole group of teams that kind of
are beaten up on one another and hanging around. And
that includes the Cubs who won sixty six, the Dodgers
who won sixty six, Phillies have won sixty five, Podres
have won sixty four.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
They're only two back of La.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It's the closest they've been since June Mets at sixty
three wins. Even the Reds have been vastly improved. They
even though they dropped their last two games of the
Pittsburgh series, and who wouldn't lose to Paul Skins these days?
But they're sixty and fifty six. But how do you
see the National League rolling along right now? What's really
striking you other than what Milwaukee is doing?
Speaker 10 (39:03):
I really don't see much movement in the National League.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
I think it kind of is going to be what
it's going to be, short of a team just really
running out of gas with their pitching or taking on
a lot of injuries. You know, it's really really hard
to make up a lot of games when when somebody's
gonna win every night, you got three teams in front
of you in the case of the Reds, they're three
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games out, like somebody's going to win every night, So
they've really got to play like seven to fifty baseball
the rest of the way to even have a chance
to get and which is a really really hard thing
to do. But because there's no second waiver wire trade
deadline now and no waiver wire trades, you know your
your team is who it is short of what you
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have in your system, and the teams that are all
in the playoffs right now from a national league standpoint,
have really strong systems short of San Diego, who Aj
Peler went out and built a super team. He did
an unbelievable job of really pushing all in with his
minor league system at the deadline, understanding how close they
were last year, what their window is going to be
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in twenty five and twenty six, and really pushing all
in to do that. But the way it kind of
sits today in the National League, I would be surprised
if there were many changes to that.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Let me get you to expand on San Diego a
little bit, because of the deals they made to really
strengthen the back of the bullpen was major. I thought
of what they did and it's helped him push to
get close to LA And they do have two series
left with the Dodgers, which could be really telling as well.
But how about what Peller has done with this Padres
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team truly amazing.
Speaker 9 (40:41):
I mean, Leo Devreize was the one guy that AJ
was not going to come off of, and he eventually
came off of him and made that trade for Mason Miller.
And I think it's not that you were so close
last year. It's that you don't really have a lot
of depth at the Triple A level and so you're
ensuring yourself with your volume at the major league level now.
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You know, getting guys to buy into what their roles
are is a very important thing because you've got guys
that have been set in certain roles late in the
game and those bullpens, and so getting that buy in
from those guys is going to be important. You know,
the bringing in Ryano Hearn from Baltimore when you have
Gavin Sheets, getting that buy in on Okay, now you're
playing playing time.
Speaker 10 (41:26):
Might not be what it was, but you're here to win.
Speaker 9 (41:29):
We're here to win. That buy in is going to
be very very important. But nobody insured themselves from from
running out of gas or injury or you know, than
the Padres did at the deadline.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
On the other end of that could be the Dodgers,
who still have the lead, but it's down to two
games and most people in the LA area seem to
be pointing the finger. And I don't think this is
completely fair because the bullpen let it get away the
other day, but they haven't been scoring runs of late,
and most folks seem to be pointing the finger at
one person, Mookie Betts. He's batting two thirty six right now.
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He's had some real struggles and even folks may not
realize this. Shoe Aotani has been struggling quite a bit
in striking out more.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
He's down to two seventy six these days.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, Freddie Freeman is starting to swing the bat better,
and they did get Max Munsey back, which is helping
a lot. And Will Smith is actually leading the National
League and hitting. But they've been so inconsistent at the
plate of late, and then they've had the hot and
cold as well, trying to get somebody to finish things
out in the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
How bout your take on the Dodgers.
Speaker 9 (42:35):
Well, you know, arguably the most talented team in the
National League. Health has been a concern from them for them,
you know, most of the season, they've had a lot
of injuries. They still have a number of guys on
the il. They're just not going to push the panic button.
And you know, I think you saw the level of
intensity that existed in the last series between them and
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the Padres. You got two more to go. And I
say this all the time, but it really is true.
When you're that good, you almost wish the season away.
You just want to get to October. You want to
stay healthy, you want to get to October. And even
when the rhythm is not going well within the lineup offensively,
you know you're going to find your way eventually. And
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so there's no panic in LA. And they're certainly one
of the best teams in the National League and they'll
be a strong contender in October.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
In the East, the Phillies and Mets continue to do
the dose dough of who gets hot and who doesn't
get hot. And the Mets have been roaring and then
they dropped eight of ten, and the Phillies have been
going and now they're five and five and Philly with
a two and a half game league.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
What do you see from these two right now?
Speaker 9 (43:39):
Well, it's shocking with the Mets the way they've played,
but they are still a very good team. They've got
a three game lead on the Reds and the wild card.
I just I think the Phillies are so talented. You know,
we talked about Milwaukee, We've talked about San Diego and
the Dodgers, but I just I think the Phillies really
are the team to be when it.
Speaker 10 (44:00):
Comes into October.
Speaker 9 (44:02):
And you know, that division has been kind of surprised
when you look what the Braves have done this year.
Speaker 10 (44:08):
But to me, the Phillies are still the team to be.
Speaker 9 (44:11):
And the Mets have got to get their offense going
and get Soto going, and get some of those younger
hitters going, and if they do, they'll they'll hang on
to that last wildcard spot.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Talking baseball with Team Watson here on thirteen under the Zone.
Let's jump to the Americae legue and start in the West.
Astro's still leading the division, but it's a game and
a half on the Mariners, who've been hotter of late.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
The Rangers had it going for a while and.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
They cooled off a little bit, but they still took
two or three from the Yankees. They're four and a
half back and would be a wild card team right now.
About your thoughts in the West.
Speaker 9 (44:40):
Arguably one of the toughest divisions in baseball, and people
don't give that division enough credit. And the job that
the Astros have done is truly incredible. I just think
that down the stretch, Seattle's pitching is going to win out.
They've got an incredibly talented rotation. They've got some very
good arms that they can bring up from the minor leagues.
Adding Naylor and Eugenios Warrez to the roster was huge
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for them.
Speaker 10 (45:04):
I know Naylor had the injury.
Speaker 9 (45:06):
They don't think it's going to be too serious, but
it just feels like the time is right for Seattle.
I kind of used Seattle and the Phillies, as I've
said before, to kind of sleepers to reach the World Series.
Speaker 10 (45:19):
But a very very competitive division.
Speaker 9 (45:21):
Houston's gonna have to really go down the stretch with
their pitching and get health out of their pitching, get
innings out of their pitching, and score a lot of runs.
I think Alvarez is going to be back sooner than later.
That's going to be a huge boast to that lineup.
And so but this is this division, I mean, and
for you know, the Angels, for the struggles they've had,
you know, they just kind of keep their head above water.
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And Oakland's probably been the bigger surprise in that division
with the talent that they have. I think everybody felt
like this might be a little bit of a push
for them this year after the second day half that
they had last year. I think the ballpark might be
a distraction for them out in Sacramento. But but truly
one of the more divisions in baseball top to bottom.
I just feel like Seattle's twenty six man roster and
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the depth they have on their forty man is going
to pull them through.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
With the end, the Guardians have have managed to pull
to within a game and a half of the third
wildcard spot, within six of the Tigers who have who
have skipped a little bit but are still you know,
cruising a little bit in the American League Center.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
How about those two.
Speaker 10 (46:26):
It's amazing.
Speaker 9 (46:27):
I mean, I talked to aj Hinch last week and
the thing that I told him was, look, just think
about where you were this time last year and they
had you know, they came into Chicago in September, and
you know it's like, hey, for for all the season
has been this year, will take two steps forward next year.
And they went on a complete run the rest of
the way, made the playoffs and went run on the playoffs.
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And so that's the thing that I conveyed to him
last week, was like, just remember where you were last
year and your team is better now. So you know,
it's just sometimes you know, you just get things just
aren't clicking on all cylinders and they've been through a
rough patch. The thing you don't want to happen is
to go through that rough patch in mid September, late
September and then have to turn it back on in October.
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I know in two thousand and three, we lost like
eight out of ten in early September and every night
we lost the Phillies loss and we ended up winning
the World Series in Miami. And so you never know
when these rough patches are going to come. They just
happen to be going through it right now. But they
have a very, very talented team that will definitely be
in the playoffs in October.
Speaker 10 (47:33):
The Cleveland Indians. It's just incredible what they do.
Speaker 9 (47:35):
Nobody ever gives them enough credit, Nobody ever talks about them.
They know who they are, they have an identity, they
have a process in the way they draft players and
signed players internationally. They have a tremendous minor league system,
and they just keep winning. And it's truly incredible the
way they go about it. And kudos to their front
office for their processes. And they're still in this thing.
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They're not going away. They have a chance for the trades,
they may they have a chance to stay in this
thing to the end. But I still believe that the
Tigers are the class of the division. Here's an interesting
question for you.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Are the Yankees going to be able to hold on
to the third wild card right now that they've dropped
six of their last ten. Uh, they're in third place
in the division standings behind the Blue Jays and the
Red Sox are six and a half back.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
What what shot do they have right now?
Speaker 10 (48:28):
Well, they've they've got to get the offense going.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
One.
Speaker 10 (48:31):
The identity is is more of you know, the home
run in that ballpark. Uh. They did a tremendous job
of improving that bullpen.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
They have.
Speaker 9 (48:40):
They have arguably one of the most talented late inning
bullpens in the game. Again, what's your role? Who who's
going to be the defined role when you have four closers.
That's something still to be decided. Devin Williams has had
very good stretches, but has struggled at times.
Speaker 10 (48:55):
As well as well.
Speaker 9 (48:56):
But you know, they the identity of the offense and
playing better defenses is certainly important. And you know the
Jash Chisholm mistakes in Miami. I kind of understand where
he was coming from on the base running where he
had played there before, understood the instincts of the player.
Speaker 10 (49:14):
It just didn't work out for him in that instance.
Speaker 9 (49:16):
But little things like that keep happening for them, and
if they can clean those things up, they're going to
be fine. They have a super talented team. But the
identity of the offense has won something that's got to
come to the forefront and they got to continue to
pitch well.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Does the road find you again here in the coming
days and weeks.
Speaker 9 (49:34):
I'm going to pick up the Red Sox in Houston
on Tuesday, and then I'm gonna take Boston back to
Boston and I'll go Boston, Portland, Raleigh, Durham, Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
How about that one?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I like it, O case Geen Watson from the Chicago
White Sox, the player personnel director, Gene, I appreciate the
time as always, have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Thanks for doing have a great weekend. Yeah that's Gene Watson.
All right.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
We have more coming up when we continue on thirteen
under the Zone. All right, let's continue with hearing from
longward football players. This from the guy who's star has
been on the rise, the starting boundary corner for Texas
to junior cornerback league Manny Muhammad.
Speaker 10 (50:12):
So you assume as a.
Speaker 13 (50:13):
Player, Uh, you know, I can't really answer that question
right now. Just as acts around as coach is what
I need to get better at because you know, nobody
is perfect. So uh, I just say keep taking it
day by day and then after this year after me, just.
Speaker 11 (50:32):
Keep doing it day by day. I'll see, like going
I would refrach.
Speaker 10 (50:36):
That, how much more confident do you feel as a
player now versus you know, tun.
Speaker 13 (50:39):
Or s way more confident, way more confident going into
my third year. I feel like had my freshman year
where I played a lot, then my sophomore year is
going to start in every game and then now my
junior year kind of really settling in and got the
feeling the gist of college football.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
Sark said, He's he wants y'all to play the ball
in the air more. And it sounded like you've had
some good days here recently in the camp. Can you
just talk about that and what that does to your
excitement and if you're seeing the results in camp.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (51:14):
Yeah, So every day I just try to get on
the go, get on the drug machines, catch as many
uh balls as I can day by day, Uh in
different phases like the fade ball, UH catching catching it
coming on a dig or coming downhill like I'm a
comeback or a curl. So uh, I would definitely say
my confidence has has uh rods believe have you started.
Speaker 8 (51:35):
To see kind of like the fruit of having the
jarve's and macolas and the rooms last year.
Speaker 14 (51:40):
And Uh also just your leadership started. Coach Oh shouted
that out, uh when we talk to him about how
you've been more of a vocal leader this year. So
uh does that kind of translated Coret Lake? But you
cause you got to watch.
Speaker 13 (51:50):
Your baron in the lacula Uh, for sure, for sure,
cause uh I was normal. I'm normally like the chill guy.
Uh like lead by example with action, but uh just
knowing that I've stepped into that role uh with joad
A and McCoo believing, I know that I have to
be more vocal.
Speaker 11 (52:07):
Uh and and and show by action and with my voice.
Speaker 6 (52:10):
What was your first impression of going to Communa and
how much juice is he brought? Your first impression to
coach Aquita and how much juice does.
Speaker 11 (52:18):
He brought first day? First day? I mean to be
I don't want to call him mode cause that sounds
kind of bad, but too Yeah, but to to be
to to be that age and still.
Speaker 13 (52:29):
Have that juice and still run around that practice and
f like do the flying the eagle around the field
and uh just have that energy like he Yeah, the
first impression was was was great?
Speaker 6 (52:41):
Did you have produce some more and work on him
to see to see what all the hepe.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
Was cause with the ddu all of that.
Speaker 11 (52:46):
Uh now I kind of see him on the wall.
Speaker 13 (52:48):
When I first got here as a freshman, I'm like,
who who coached these guys? And then uh I seen
Dwayne and Keno when I looked him up, but he
came and recruited me back in high school and I
wasn't really familiar with him at the time. But now
since I came to textas and I've seen all the
guys on the wall, the money wall, the gold real.
Speaker 11 (53:06):
I'm like, who coached these.
Speaker 13 (53:07):
Guys and then coaching que ended up getting a job?
Speaker 4 (53:10):
So it's it's just a contract here for you.
Speaker 13 (53:16):
Yeah, I don't wanna speak too much about it. I
just wanna focus on the process right now. But uh,
I got that in mind.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
Give me a position coach this year. How how's that
transition gone? And what what do you learn?
Speaker 10 (53:28):
Learn to learn?
Speaker 9 (53:30):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (53:30):
It has been going well.
Speaker 9 (53:31):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (53:31):
He has been helping me, uh in my press technique, Uh,
playing the ball, different techniques to use when it comes
to the point of attack, and uh, just settling me
in mentally and and physically.
Speaker 10 (53:42):
Still it's always a way.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
But you're twenty three.
Speaker 6 (53:45):
Days out from are National Institute.
Speaker 10 (53:46):
You lash up two of the biggest seeds of wide
receiver calls for balls.
Speaker 6 (53:49):
I'll say your thing you about to kind of catch
you ready for the spatch up?
Speaker 10 (53:52):
Just how good these receipt what.
Speaker 11 (53:53):
You're gonna be of course.
Speaker 13 (53:55):
I I don't take no opponent likely, whether it's the
number one team in the country, number three team in
the country, or it's a un ranked opponent.
Speaker 11 (54:02):
I don't take no nobody likely.
Speaker 7 (54:04):
You know last year you had a fourth award in
opposite How do you think your rolemand changed this year?
Speaker 4 (54:09):
You might not see as much action.
Speaker 6 (54:10):
This year with you guys on their shock.
Speaker 11 (54:12):
Uh we'll see, man.
Speaker 13 (54:15):
I play DV every player. I think the ball is
coming my way, so we shall see.
Speaker 11 (54:21):
How many times were you on juremih Yeah?
Speaker 6 (54:23):
In the coffee game?
Speaker 13 (54:25):
Uh I, I I can't really, I can't really remember,
but it it was quite a time. And then you know,
third down, we we went and matched up and I
went to uh e metag buka if they were the
top target.
Speaker 10 (54:38):
Do you remember how it gett against Ruble Uh?
Speaker 11 (54:42):
I don't remember it.
Speaker 10 (54:43):
One catch they pay three yards.
Speaker 11 (54:47):
Yeah, it was that year. Oh, it was a team effort.
It was definitely a team effort.
Speaker 5 (54:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (54:53):
Ye, you're so far away from January where you wanna
be playing a national championship game.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
How were you guys gonna handle you know, looking at that?
Speaker 11 (55:00):
How about the day of the day.
Speaker 13 (55:03):
Uh, just focusing on the process, like just taking the
day by day. Uh, we gotta go, want to know,
every week to get to the national championship. So that's
just what we focusing on.
Speaker 6 (55:13):
What's some pressure the most about Grayson?
Speaker 13 (55:16):
Oh my god, Grayson man physical play with hot, fanatical effort.
Uh it's smart, is about his business and he's just
consistent on and off the field.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
Do you see anything with him and yourself? Like does
he remind you of yourself at all?
Speaker 11 (55:32):
Your personal definitely coming in coming in uh.
Speaker 13 (55:36):
Ready to play, like ready to take on whatever he
gotta take on. Where there's special teams, whether it's on defense.
Uh man, that guy, but he he do it all.
He came in with the right mindset for sure.
Speaker 7 (55:50):
Is there a lot of exens you right now which
he like came in the locker room or you know
to or pressure it all right now for y'all to
get back.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
To what you were last year?
Speaker 13 (55:57):
Uh, for sure it is, cause now no championship is
on everybody nine but everybody everybody's mind. But like coach
Starks say, uh, just to worry about the process right now,
take it day by day. But that's definitely I in
our in our minds and shoe we what No, I was.
Speaker 6 (56:13):
Gonna say, who's a young guy you get surprised?
Speaker 13 (56:16):
Yeah, a young guy who can surprise man. I'll say
Grayson Littleton. I definitely say Grayson Littleton.
Speaker 10 (56:28):
What would you say is the best part of your game?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (56:33):
My mental aspect, my mental and my instincts for sure.
Speaker 7 (56:38):
What's it been like?
Speaker 10 (56:38):
I have to pass back on as a defensive guy.
Speaker 6 (56:40):
I know y'all prefer to hit him back.
Speaker 11 (56:43):
Yeah. In a huddle, everybody be turnt.
Speaker 14 (56:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (56:46):
When when we know that team Ryan period is coming in,
we about to go live. Everybody be turnt, ready to tackle. Uh,
just ready to play football and and happy to get
to the season.
Speaker 7 (56:54):
You know, if a guy like Jaylen Gilbo and he's
been in for slot for a while, what's it what
do you have to do differently when you go outside?
Speaker 6 (57:03):
And what have you seen from him of last couple
of years?
Speaker 7 (57:06):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (57:06):
Well, first off, he he has adjusted to corner well
because you know, and Nickel is more into the box
more uh short yardage. But out out at corner you
have more space.
Speaker 11 (57:17):
You have to think.
Speaker 13 (57:18):
You have to know whether you're in the boundary at
a field, so you gotta know how to play like
in a boundary, you have to play more tighter cause
it's more quick throws into the field. You got more space,
more time to break in the more field.
Speaker 8 (57:31):
So twenty twenty three flash yardage you Derek is founding
how peop you want really breaking and have WARN's gonna
get your pros?
Speaker 10 (57:38):
How tight are y'all? This is kind of your year
in the defensive background. H.
Speaker 13 (57:42):
That's what we take pride on is is loving each other,
being vulnerable towards you just other, being able to tell
each other what what's going on outside the field, what's
going on?
Speaker 3 (57:51):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (57:51):
On the field, we stay tight. We have a really
we we got a really close connection in our DV
room and we take pride on take prodlem that.
Speaker 12 (58:02):
Sorry, going back to Greece and he would kind of
describe yourself as a more shy guy.
Speaker 6 (58:05):
Have you seen him come out of the shelf this
fault family.
Speaker 11 (58:08):
Uh, he definitely has.
Speaker 13 (58:09):
But going back to uh, the question that I was
just asks, Uh, that's what we take pride of. Will
I don't I wouldn't say I don't allow, but we
don't allow like the shyness in our room, Like open up,
be yourself, be who you are around your family.
Speaker 11 (58:25):
Be you could be like that around us too. We
don't judge, we don't. We just be family.
Speaker 7 (58:29):
How much everybody is and his kind of fingerprints on
round kind of bringing the juice.
Speaker 13 (58:35):
Nah, definitely, he definitely bring the juice to and he
he he brings that to like wanna do the shyness
like coach or fe be out out of his shell too,
like being cool. Uh, just knowing each and every guy,
like knowing how you should come at him, how you
should talk to him when they make a bad play,
or like just just being normal and being yourself.
Speaker 11 (58:55):
What you with that? Born robertson special teams. He is
a monster.
Speaker 13 (59:04):
At corner, great technique, uh, explosive uh physical at the
point of attack, and and he just played hard with
fanatical effort.
Speaker 10 (59:12):
Is there a wide receiver as guie, do you a
challenge at practice?
Speaker 11 (59:15):
DeAndre Moore? For sure? DeAndre Moore uh and Ryan Wingo
for sure. We'll make them too set up, So I
I I play.
Speaker 13 (59:24):
A mental game with them, and like as practice going
on and we going versus each other one on one,
I tell him, like why I did this? And what
I was thinking in this rep so like what he
could do better or how he could play the mental
game within the game with me too.
Speaker 11 (59:36):
So I would definitely say those two guys, how how.
Speaker 7 (59:39):
Important is that kind of collaboration between the that's a
back of receiver that you guys can kind of trade
those and get.
Speaker 6 (59:45):
Better that way.
Speaker 13 (59:46):
Uh, that is super important, especially when it come uh
game time, cause they'll be able to use stuff that
I gave them, little nuggets and gym that I gave them.
They'll be able to use that come game time to
use uh within the game, and then the the nuggets
that they've gave me, I'll be able to use that
against other White House when I played 'em.
Speaker 10 (01:00:04):
How had that same you? I get the same feedback
with with Arts.
Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
From what you get better and you know what how
you playing him and how you pick 'em off fits.
Speaker 9 (01:00:13):
I have I have.
Speaker 13 (01:00:15):
But Arch actually comes up to me uh after practice
sometimes too and be like what coverage were you in?
Speaker 11 (01:00:21):
Why did you play it like this? Why did you
do that? And I aksed him the same thing, like
why did you pump it like that?
Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Why did you do this?
Speaker 11 (01:00:27):
Or why did you do that?
Speaker 10 (01:00:28):
Unless you can make your fitnessh you get anybody fitting all?
Speaker 11 (01:00:33):
Uh, I don't know. I have to get back with
Brad on that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Oh was it like one percent?
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Now?
Speaker 11 (01:00:39):
I probably got about like five percent about that? And
what do you win about one eighty seven til one ninety?
Speaker 9 (01:00:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
How how often does a kid of talk about just
bringing back that people?
Speaker 9 (01:00:47):
You hear?
Speaker 11 (01:00:48):
Is it that he talks about it a lot?
Speaker 13 (01:00:50):
And he he actually tells us to watch the gold
reels or like stride for those players who have been
first round, top five picks, second round picks, or Hall
of famers or Pro bowlers like strive to go, get that,
go chase that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Who shoot out to you?
Speaker 11 (01:01:08):
Let's see this stood out to you.
Speaker 13 (01:01:10):
At the Star squad at the So we kind of
rotated a little bit, so you would have Grayson go
to Star, Wardell go to Star, Michael taff will go
to Star, ORLINI would go to Star. All of them
are doing great, tremendous, but the standout would definitely be
Grayson and in Wardale met They definitely are doing a
(01:01:30):
great job.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
One of the leaders in that secondary Manny Muhammad. For
the coming season, We'll be back to wrap up the week,
right here on thirteen under the zone