Micah Parsons on the Move, Sark Shares Final Ohio State Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tonight is opening nights in full force for college football
and high school football across the state of Texas and
for college football across the nation. Yeah, there's actually a
game that starts about two and a half hours from now,
featuring a ranked college football team. It is finally in
a hand. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the program here

(00:23):
on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone. My name
is Craig Way. Glad to have you with us. Jake
Herman is a producer alongside Well. I got to thinking
about this Jake. For folks who don't know, Jake has
just joined our family recently, and Jake hails from the Washington,
DC area. Now he is a University of Texas grad
What class, what year, twenty twenty two, and so Jake

(00:49):
was there to see a lot of long worn football
games in person over the years. You mentioned yesterday in
great detail the near riot by the students there with
the LSU game back in nineteen was a lot of fun,
and you've seen some other things like that. But I
got thinking about this. When you graduated from Texas, did

(01:11):
you go straight to North Dakota to do summer wood
that league baseball, or did you go back to d C.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
How did that break down?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
The night that I graduated, went in the fountain, all
the festivities there.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, good, good.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
The next morning began what turned into a two and
a half day road trip to Walsall, Wisconsin for the
summer with bat Lean.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So you drove up to Wisconsin after that, in the
middle of the night after graduating. Wow. Okay. See now
that's a good story for your life and your future
and down the road. Okay. So how long were you
up there that summer? How long? How long till win?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Till about the third week of August? Third week?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Then what did you do? Then?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I was figuring out what was next. I went back
to d C. Okay, I'm going some with this. That's
why I'm asking this, all right. So he went back
home to DC, sent a lot of resumes, okay, did
a few interviews, all right, and then by November I
knew I was headed to North Dakota. Okay. So you
spent autumn of twenty twenty two in DC? Yes, okay,

(02:17):
that's where that This is where I'm going with this.
Did you have some football withdrawal going on while you're
up in DC?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh? Yeah, big time.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Because we know, I mean, there are important college football
programs on the Eastern Seaboard. I don't know anybody to
get to get the wrong impression this. I grew up
in North Carolina and it was and and football in
the ACC was big. Wasn't on the level of basketball,
but it was big. And then going up, you know,
the Eastern Seaboard, Pitt has become a player of late.
We know about Virginia Tech and Syracuse has become a

(02:46):
player of late. But I think you'll agree that it
hits a little bit different in the SEC and the
Big Ten, obviously, So I wondered if if you were
missing football in the fall of twenty two, it.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Didn't quite hit the same being that far away, especially
seeing an environment like the home Alabama game.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah from the couch.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right, that was rough not being in the in the
stadium for that one. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
So then then you went out to North Dakota summer
of twenty three, right.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Winter of twenty two.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Had it been the summer of twenty three, I'd have
seen about one hundred fewer inches of snow, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
When you so you drove from DC out to North
Dakota to bismar North Dakota. Okay, same car you drove
up to Wisconsin after you graduated.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
No, that a different car at that point. Okay, all right, carswap.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I went up there with one that was a little
bit better equipped to handle North Dakota snow.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, okay, good, all right. So then you drove out there.
What did you do during the dead of winter in Bismarck, Well,
I mean, did you take a position with a group
to broadcast because for folks who don't know, Jake is
chasing his play by play dream, which is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's a great thing.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
And I was with a TV station, also a co
op that does a lot of fiber and telecom services,
BECK Sports Network in Bismarck, and they would cover all
sorts of high school events. They had the state championships,
not including football, basketball, and hockey. So a lot of

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high school state tournaments, a lot of small collegiate events.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I started, say D two, D three, NAI A stuff,
all of the above. Okay, some junior college events as well.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
And then in the summertime, so Beck owned and I
say owned because I haven't played football in a while
and the Indoor Football League team. So we were involved
with the league doing a red Zone channel type stream
and broadcasting select games. And we were the production house
for the Pro Volleyball Federation, the upstart women's Volleyball League.

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Longhorns like Ajo O'Neil were in it. She belayed for
the Columbus franchise. Okay, And that was how we spent
that summer of twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Four, Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Summer of twenty three was just a lot of baseball.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay, all right, all right, So and I guess what
I was saying is is that you missed out on
football on twenty two and then twenty twenty three. You
were still up there into twenty twenty four. Yes, into
the summer of twenty twenty four. Okay, So you were
out while Sark was getting it turned yes at Texas
and winning the final Big Twelve championship for them as

(05:36):
a member of the Big twelve Conference. Okay, So you
were still missing it then, right, you know, you were
staying busy.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
And one thing that I learned when I went up
to a game in Fargo for the Bison of NDSU.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, did you go up to watch media member. Were
you broadcasting? What was the de is?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Just watching a free weekend early in the season.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
What's it called?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Fargo Dome?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
The Fargo Dome? A broadcast there? Volleyball wrestling? Same hand sign. Yeah,
I've noticed that.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I've known now they the Bison that that How big
is that building?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Seventeen thousand or so something around there? Yeah? All right,
good environment, great environment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Did it make you miss textas even more logwards football?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Okay, No matter how many of their traditions I tried
to lean into, well it didn't hit the same.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Okay, all right. So the reason I ask all of
this what it's leading up to is, and this happens
every week during the course of the football season. Doing
what I do, so I get opportunities and invitations and
request to be on other radio shows or podcast or
this or that, And the universal question that was asked

(06:44):
me by and I think I've done this week eleven interviews.
I think something like that. But the universal questions always,
you know, the old thing, Are you ready for some football?
Are you ready for the football season? And have you
ever seen the anticipation and excitement for a football season

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in Austin like this year? And my answer is no,
I've not. I've seen a lot of excitement building, even
over the past two decades plus. I'll start my twenty
fifth year in the play by play chair on Saturday,
thirty eighth year on the network. But I've never witnessed
it at this high level. And it got me thinking
about that. And I have people who were here but

(07:27):
were not and are back what they saw of it,
and you came to mind off of that. That's why
I said that, I just wondered what it was like,
how much you missed of it, and are you swept
up in the excitement of all of this? Again?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Absolutely absolutely, And I'm trying to check myself and remind
myself that they played football until late January.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Now, I can't get too worked up. I've got a
January fefteenth would be. It was January twentieth last year.
January nineteenth is the national championship game that'll be played.
So yeah, you can pay yourself on that. Although I
think it's important to point out obviously because this first
game has the attention the gravitas that it has to

(08:09):
be a non conference game. I could see everybody building
up very very excited, and then take a breath, win
or lose for the Logorns on Saturday, take a breath
and just kind of, you know, come back down off
the mountain a little bit. There are three non conference
home games to come, all obviously very winnable games, and

(08:31):
then you can kind of crescendo back up to that
SEC opener in Gainesville on October fourth at Florida, which
would be really really big. But like I said, I
understand that. That's why I ask it of you, because
I know other people are in the same thing that
have missed it or whatever, and they're all excited about
it as well as the people who live in these parts.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's nice to feel like there is no clear ceiling
for this group, you know. It's nice to feel like
the ceiling is as high as it has been in
recent memory.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. So here's what we have coming up.
And the other reason why I asked all this. Here's
what we have coming up. We're gonna hear from LONGRNS
head coach Steve Sarkisian. He did his first of the
in season Thursday media availabilities. He does that one by
zoom every Thursday. It's kind of like the last message

(09:23):
to the media before the Saturday game about where things
stand and that sort of thing, and we'll hear sound
from him throughout the course of the day about that
leading up to the game. So we will do that.
I want to remind you this afternoon at five o'clock.

(09:44):
It's the reason it's on at five is because of
round Rock Express Baseball tonight at six fifty on the
zone as the Express or in action against the Salt
Lake Bees, round Rock making a late push to try
to win enough games again into that PCL Championship Series.
But that'll be at six fifty. So five o'clock will

(10:07):
be our season premiere edition of Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark.
So the first of the coaches shows for the season
comes up this afternoon. It'll be five o'clock this week,
and it'll be five o'clock next week again because of
round Rock Express Baseball. Now, for those of you who say, well,

(10:28):
I'm not going to be out and that I was
looking forward to hearing it at seven o'clock, I got
good news for you.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Obviously.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
You can you can hear you know, on the Texas
Longhorns app. You can actually watch it on l HM
when it when it airs, and we are rebroadcasting the
show every Friday at five, So be Thursday at five,
Friday at five, So every Friday the show will be

(10:55):
broad rebroadcast at five o'clock. Now, I've gotten a lot
of questions, email questions and Facebook messenger questions and other
things like that from folks asking about the show because
the show since twenty well, I'll tell you since twenty fourteen.
So for the past eleven seasons, the past decade, from

(11:18):
twenty fourteen to twenty twenty four, the Coaches Show was
broadcast from Pluckers over at the West Campus location. We
love our friends at Pluckers absolutely, but due to a
variety of factors, not no one overwhelming factor, but a
variety of factors, the show is not going to be
at Pluckers this year. It is on campus and we're

(11:43):
doing it. To call it a studio would be would
be a stretch. It's in an area where interviews and
things like that have been done. So it's just me,
it's Sark, but also the guests that we bring, and
since it's on campus, Sark is able to bring some

(12:06):
special guests along and that's what we have for the
show this week.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
What a way to lead it off. Jamal Charles will
be with us.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Jamal, of course, freshman running back on that two thousand
and five national championship team twenty years ago. Had folks
remember the eight r touchdown run that year against Oklahoma,
But Jamal also had some big plays in that win
over Ohio State. It was only his second collegiate game.

(12:37):
Texas had opened the season against Louisiana, and by the way,
that game evoked a lot of memories, not because of
the way it went down. Texas won sixty to three.
It wasn't. It wasn't because of that. That was coming
right on the heels of Hurricane Katrina, and you had
and Louisiana, the Raging Caguns were out of town already

(13:01):
and off campus, so they were able to be there
and play the football game. But there were a lot
of people that went through obviously incredible difficulties and loss
of life and loss of property and things like that
that happened as a result of Katrina. But they had
played Louisiana and then they went to Ohio State. It

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was only the second game for Jamal Charles. He had
a couple of big game, big moments, in the game
where he caught a couple of screen passes on third downs.
There was a third and six, there was a third
and nine down the stretch of the game that were important,
but maybe his most important play. And I got to
be honest with you, I'd pretty much forgotten. I remembered

(13:45):
that he made the tackle on this play, but that's
about all I remembered. There's there is a play and
and it happens late in the first half and Vinjeng
was under pressure and tried to dump a pass off

(14:05):
to Jamal Charles Jamal, and he'll say it in the show.
You'll hear it. As we recorded the program yesterday, you'll
hear him say, I did the wrong thing. I went
to the wrong area. He wasn't in the right spot
for where the ball was released. Vince was under pressure
and he stepped up in the pocket, but as he
released it, Jamal wasn't there. Instead, it went right into
the waiting arms of aj Hawk, the Ohio State linebacker.

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And immediately, if you go back and you look at
the tape of this, and I went back, and it's amazing.
And for those who watch the LAHN presentation of it
online at LHN dot com, Texas Long Orange dot com.
If you go back, you'll see Jamal dive at the
legs of Ajhawk. He misses him. Hawk is still running

(14:48):
escaping tacklers. Jamal gets up. Remember Jamal was a state
champion hurdler in high school at Port Arthur Memorial. He races,
he hurdles over two tacklers, cuts off the a and
runs down Ajhawk and decletes him with a tackle that
today definitely would be reviewed for targeting. He lowered the

(15:10):
boom on him. I mean he flattened AJ Hawk. Otherwise
Hawk was going to take it in for a touchdown.
It ended up holding Ohio State for a field goal.
Long Wrns come back and they get the key fourth
quarter drive that had the two catches by Charles on
the drive and ultimately sets the stage for Vince Young's

(15:31):
touchdown pass to Limas Swede. Texas goes up twenty three
to twenty two, and then they wind up tackling I
think Justin Zwick in the end zone for a safety
to pretty much end it. They win twenty five to
twenty two. So there's some really good recollections from Jamal
Charles on the program. Also on the program, really good
recollections from Dwayne A. Kena, who of course is the

(15:53):
defensive passing game coordinator back on the Texas Long Orange staff.
He had served on Mac Brown staff in two thousand
and one through twenty thirteen, including that national championship team,
and now he is back. He had gone to Stanford
in Arizona where he had begun his career at Arizona,
part of that Desert Swarn defense that they had in

(16:15):
the late nineties, and he has returned and he's got
great memories not only of that game, but of the
many outstanding defensive backs that he tutored in his time
at Texas. And then we'll get him and we get
his thoughts on this current crop of dbs at UT.
So that's coming up, and again it's five o'clock this afternoon.

(16:38):
You can hear it right after this program ends. After
our show was done at five, you'll hear Long Worn
Weekly with coach Stark. We obviously talk about the run
up to the season and getting ready for Ohio State,
and he's got some really good things, some interesting things
to say about Arch Manning and about his team. We
talk about the Buckeyes and the challenges they will present

(17:01):
so that is coming up at five o'clock this afternoon,
and again the program will re air Friday afternoon at five,
so if you miss it today, you can catch it
tomorrow as well. So I just wanted to set the
stage for that. All right. Up next, we're going to
hear from Steve Sarkisian's media availabilit. We got some other
college football notes to get to on this opening day

(17:23):
of college and high school football. We do have Inconceivable,
which includes unique restaurant and fast food junk food updates
in addition to a couple other items, so we have that.
As always, we're happy to take your questions, your thoughts,
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
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Speaker 1 (17:42):
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Speaker 1 (18:03):
We'll get to all of that and more coming up
here on a Thursday afternoon, heading in to the first
weekend of the college football the first full weekend of
college football here in the US, right here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone. All right here it

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is on this Thursday. And like I said, today is
the opening day for college football, first full weekend, and
it is definitely the opening day for high school football
as well. And we'll run down the high school lineup

(18:46):
in a little bit as well as far as college
football goes. There's big games that will start this afternoon
and tonight only fifth rank Boise State is in Tampa
to play South Florida. That game will actually kick off
at four thirty our time this afternoon at at ESPN

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telecast at six o'clock is East Carolina at North Carolina State.
A little bit of rivalry has built up there, kind
of what's been described as an under the radar rival.
INCA State's main rival, they claim, certainly is North Carolina.
North Carolina does have a rivalry with them, but not

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as much as they have with Duke but Inca State
and East Carolina, who are separated by abouts eighty ninety
miles I think to Greenville from Raleigh. They've had a
couple of ugly things that happened. They've had bench clearing incidents.
They played for the first time ever in a Peach
Bowl game in the early nineties and that kind of

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started it. It was East Carolina's first bowl game. So
they're playing tonight. That's an ACC network telecast. Towson in
Norfolk State kick off at six that's on ESPNU. The
intrigue of that contest. Maybe you don't know too much
about some of the HBCU schools, the historically black colleges

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and universities, and that's what's on deck here for Towson
in Norfolk State. Norfolk State coach by Michael Vick, you'll
make his coaching debut tonight. That's at six o'clock, six
point thirty on SEC Network. Missouri, the first SEC team
to swing into action, will host Central Arkansas. That's a

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FCS program. Then at seven point thirty is UAB and
Alabama State, and then at eight o'clock an attractive matchup,
Nebraska's at Cincinnati. So there's some interesting matchups even on
this first night. There are games tomorrow as well, including

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Baylor in what's called a blackout night for them. There
were all black uniforms. I think they've got the chrome
gold helmets, but they're calling a blackout, and students and
fans who are who have tickets in the game, the
games sellout. They're a McLain Stadium are encouraged to wear
black to do it so they can have a blackout

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tomorrow night as they play Auburn. So there's another SEC school.
Also tomorrow night is Georgia Tech at Colorado, So Deon
Sanders back at work second year. This game is a
good intersectional matchup to start off with.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's that's one thing. But here's the other thing.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, one of the great things about college football,
I think so are the mascots, especially the live animal mascots.
Love the live animal mascots, and not just you know,
I know a lot of long worm fans like the
fact when Pivo got after or was it ug A
ten was it? I believe it was. It was the

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Georgia bulldog there at the.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
At the Sugar Bowl ten pounds lighter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, I don't want to see animal on the animal crime,
nothing like that, but I do like seeing the live
animal mascots. Certainly, one of the most unique I ever
saw an action was Ralphie a buffalo for Colorado when
Texas was in the Big Twelve when Colorado was in
the Big Twelve the first time going out for games
and Boulders interesting when they would run across the field

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leading Ralphie, who is a female, because they said the
male buffalo is way too rambunctious, so they would lead
Ralphie running across the field. They're up to Ralphie six
and they're not gonna have Ralphie on the field tomorrow night,
not because she's not allowed. It's a home game after

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all for Colorado. No, they are retiring Ralphie after four
years because Colorado we're not happy with what has been
described of Ralphie as and the quote is indifference to running.
You know, I always thought I thought defensive indifference was

(23:13):
an interesting term in baseball. In the ninth inning and
teams up by six runs and guys at first base
and he runs a second and the team that's in
the field is the one with the sixcronly don't even
pay attention to it, so they instead of awarding somebody
a cheap stolen base, they just call it defensive indifference.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I didn't make the football team because I was indifferent
to tackling.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well, that's probably a good idea.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Well, Ralphie apparently has an in an indifference to running,
so sometimes you know, in the past they'd have five
handlers run with Ralphie, who is actually a bison, although
buffaloes and bison are sometimes used interchangeably, and those animals
can reach speeds of up to twenty five miles per hour.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I've seen him up close back in North Dakota time.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yes, absolutely, this Ralphie Ralfie sig nickname Ember was just
not into it. And the quote from Colorado, this is
what the announcement said, due to an indifference to running
typical of many mammals, both four legged and two legged.
I'm glad they said two legged, because a lot of
times I have an indifference to running. It was determined

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that it was in Ember's best interest based on her
disposition to focus on relaxing strolls on the pastor, which
is her favorite hobby. So Ember is going to transition
into a new role as a companion for Ralphie five
on their ranch. They said. Ember has been excellent in
many aspects of her role as Ralphie, but she's happiest
relaxing on the ranch, and we want to be respectful

(24:40):
of her wishes. According to the to Taylor Stratton, who
is the this is an actual title director of the
Ralphie Live Mascot program. It's an actually job that would
be on someone's resume. I was the director of the
Ralphie Live mascot program. Anyway it she will continue to

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get the same top level of love and care that
all of our Raffi's receive and will enjoy socializing with
Ralphie fifth. The school did say a succession planned to
Ralphie the seventh has been in place for months, but
coach Dean Sanders football team will begin the season tomorrow
night in Bolder against Georgia Tech without the beloved mascot tradition,

(25:23):
there's no timeline for Raffie seven's debut, So no Ralfie
on the field tomorrow night for Colorado and Georgia Tech.
All right, let's hear from the Longwren's head coach Steve
Sarkeshon again. We're gonna hear from him throughout the course
of the afternoon. But this was how he began his
media availability today.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
You know, I think, just think from our perspective, a
really good week of work for our players. I thought
they've done a great job of focusing on the things
that are important to performing on game day that they've
there's been really good intentions in practice, there's been really
good physicality, speed. Then a tough week, we made it

(26:03):
difficult on them, especially in the front end of the week,
but I love the intent that they had, you know,
day in and day out, not only physically but mentally
to prepare to perform. Obviously a heck of a challenge,
very good football team, tough environment to play in, but
all those things are while you're here, right This is
why we're at Texas is to playing games like this,

(26:23):
and you know, we've been fortunate, we've been exposed to
games like this in the past, and I think we've
got some history and some leadership in our locker room
to lean into for those guys that have been in
these moments before to go out and perform the way
we're capable performing.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
So they're the opening thoughts from long Worns head coach
Steve Sarkisia. We'll hear more from sark throughout the course
of the program. This afternoon, I'm next Inconceivable on Sports
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone. Craig Way with you
alongside Jay Herman, who is the producer this afternoon. So
glad to have you with us today. All right, I'm

(26:59):
going to get to this story I mentioned about the
Sanders momentarily, but none other than Jake Harmon himself, who
was a Were you at least an overlap contemporary class
made of Sam Ellinger? Where it was or was he

(27:19):
already gone by the time you were enrolled at Texas? No,
he was here, That's what I thought, Oh, Sam Ellinger.
Freshman year for me was the Sugar Bowl win. Okay, okay, Well,
Jake discovered this one one story and it's intriguing by
its headline, if nothing else, it's it's pretty intriguing just

(27:44):
to see it just from from the headline portion. The
headline of the story is report sam Ellinger rejects fifty
three man roster offers to stay with Denvers practice squad.
And there's probably those of you win what there were

(28:05):
even some of you out there probably going I didn't
know Sam Aligher was still in the league. Remember he'd
start off with the Colts, but he's been with the
Broncos and he apparently is going to stay with the
Denver Broncos now this is it's kind of almost a
reverse of what guys normally do. They're trying to stick
land and stick with a fifty three man roster. And

(28:29):
he according to the writer of this of this particular story,
Miles Simmons had written, and actually, according to reporter Jordan Schultz,
Elleger had multiple offers to sign on a team's fifty
three man roster. But here's the wrinkle. Because he is

(28:53):
a vested veteran, and Sam is now vested veteran. He
has finished out his rookie contract and so he still
has a p in the NFL. He was not subject
to waivers, so he could have accepted an offer to
sign with another team, But by electing to stick with

(29:15):
the Broncos, he will stay with the team and he'll
be on the practice squad.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Sam has appeared in eight games three starts in his career.
His most extensive playing times three years ago. He went
oh in three and three starts, completed sixty three percent
of his throws with five hundred and seventy three yards,
three touchdowns, three interceptions. That was with the Colts, all right,
so you said, well, what's his opportunity in Denver? Bow
Nicks is the starting quarterback. No doubt. He's on a

(29:44):
lot of people's first round or second round Fantasy football
draft list, isn't he? I mean bow Knicks. There's a
lot forecast.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
For him, a lot of hype around Denver. There's a
lot of years and situations where bo Nicks' rookie of
the year with the season he had last.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Year, yep, yep. And they have Jared Stidham on the
fifty three man roster. Stidham of course from Stephenville and
had been with Baylor and had been with Auburn and
then winds up with the New England Patriots and now
he's with Denver. He's the backup to bow Nick. So
he said, war, what does that leave Sam Ellinger? Well,
he's the third guy. He's the third guy, and you

(30:21):
do earn a salary on the practice I think it's
something like fifty thousand dollars or maybe a little more
than that now for the practice squad. So he's on
the practice squad for Denver. Maybe Sam knows something that
we don't know. Beyond being the vested part, it could
also be that he knows he might get an opportunity

(30:41):
at least be a backup depending on what happens with
Stidham and Nicks. Both have been banged up from time
to time, so we'll see how that goes for there.
But Sam Ellinger is going to be on the roster.
He's going to be on the Denver Broncos roster, but
he's going to be on their practice squad and they're,
you know, with with cutdown roster cutdown coming a couple

(31:02):
of days ago. There are a lot of guys who
had that kind of that type of dilemma or kind
of decisions to make as well. If you're wanting a
Michael Parson's update, not that much to update with you.
He of course is still holding in, as they say,

(31:24):
not a hold out, a contract hold in. He's been
in camp with the team, but he's not participating in things.
It will be four weeks ago tomorrow when Parsons asked
to be traded. When he was asking for the trade
and Jerry Jones pretty much shrugged it off so that
it was a negotiation tactic, so he said, we're not
trading him. Maybe there's been a change of heart. ESPN

(31:50):
is reported that put air quotes around it. Several teams
end quote, I know that's a very anibulous term and
always makes me think of Raiders of the Lost Arc
at the end of the movie when they when they
the Ark of the Covenant has brought back to Washington,
d C. And here's Indiana Jones there in the in

(32:12):
the federal offices saying where's the Arc. They said, well,
it's in a very safe place that they that arc
has powers and things we missed. It must be researched.
It must be And they said, don't worry about it. Uh,
we have top men working on it. And he goes
who and the guy goes top men, and then they

(32:34):
show the Arc being put up in a in a
plywood box and stashed in a warehouse with millions of
other things as well. Several teams. Is how it makes
me think about when somebody reports several teams have spoken
of the Cowboys about a potential mich A Parsons trade,

(32:54):
and for the first time, the Cowboys, again air quotes
being inserted here, appear willing to at least listen. Adam Schefter,
who's been on the story from the outset, reported that
the Cowboys here we go with air quotes again, would
like to resolve the situation one way or another in
the coming days end quote I dare say so. It's

(33:19):
reported that if nothing else, trade talks coupled with potentially
a new offer could bring the situation ahead. Parsons may
decide to take the best offer and stay, or maybe
he could embrace a new team, even if it'll be
shorthanded in the near future, to whatever they give up
to get him. And presumably, according to this story, a

(33:42):
Micah Parson's trade package would include multiple first round picks
and the new team would have to pay him upwards
of forty five million dollars per year and annual new
money on an extension. That's why I don't think that
I don't think is imminent. Put it that way, I

(34:02):
think it's a possibility. I don't think it's imminent based
on what the trading team would have to surrender. It's
always a a bit of conversation. When I was working
in Dallas and I was much like Jay Herman is
producing this program, I was producing the Sports Central program
Brad Sham Voice of the Cowboys. He Brad was my

(34:23):
boss for seven years. And when I was producing that
program and in the studio that we had was a
pretty big studio when I was actually on the other
side of glass, as opposed to being like, what what
are we like four feet apart?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Give it a week, You'll put some glass out to
get away from me.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Plexiglass of nothing else, right, and and so on the
other side of the glass, it'd be doing things, and
I'd hear Brad talk about it, and people would call
in and they'd say, why don't they, Why don't they
trade Tony dors Sat? Why don't they? Why don't they?
And he goes for what you could trade him for? Uh,
somebody would say something like, you could trade him for

(35:02):
Kenny Stabler and Fred Blake the cough you know, to
the Raiders. And he said, let me ask you something.
If you're the Raiders, due, would you make that trade?
Would you give up an All Pro quarterback and a
Super Bowl MVP for Tony Dorsett?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Would you do that? And then the caller quite off on.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, I mean there ought to be a trade offer
out there. So in other words, people always look at
it from their side, we can get so much if
we give them up. But from the other side, the
team might not be willing to give up multiple first
round picks involved in that plus have to pay Parsons

(35:38):
in the neighborhood of forty five million dollars in annual
new money.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
It's gonna say, you got to feel like you could
sign him. If you're going to better.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Be sure, you better feel you know it was they like
to say an NBA parlace, sign and trade. You'd have
to feel really, really confident that you were able to
do that. All right, This other story he wanted to
get to. I hinted that last time when we were
talking about Colorado, when they're not going to have Ralphie
six on the field the Bison. I know they're the Buffalo's,

(36:07):
but she's actually a Bison, their bison, their mascot, and uh,
they're not going to have her because of her. As
they could describe it, indifference to running.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I love that. Indifference to running. By the way, that's
the name of a.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Band that will be playing down uh in downtown Austin
on Friday, right right exactly, indifference to running anyway. Uh,
that was one piece of news involving Colorado. They open
the season tomorrow night do the Buffs against Georgia Tech.
They're hosting them at fulsom Field and Boulder There was

(36:45):
another piece of news that involved Colorado, mainly from a
quote perspective. Dion Sanders was asked about the college football Playoff,
what he thinks of it, what could happen when expanded playoff, nil,

(37:07):
transfer portal, all of those front burner issues that's around
the college football game. Dion talked about all those differently,
but maybe the most interesting, intriguing part of what he
talked about was his idea for the college football Playoff that,

(37:31):
as the AP reported, is really an idea that nobody
has bothered really to mention, and that idea is to
pay the players for making the tournament and then pay
them more when their teams win. His quote was, if
they do that, then now it's equality. Now it's even
and every player is making the same amount of money. So, Dion,

(37:54):
who does those Athleck commercials? When Nick Saban talked to
the AP as part of their own failing of this
new AFLAC commercial that rolls out this week, the storyboard
has from the headlines quote. It opens with Sanders complaining
this game has gotten out of control, all the money,
all the unpredictability. He's talking about health insurance, of course,

(38:16):
and the commissioner he wants to see run. It isn't Saban,
but it's the Afflac duck at that. I want to say,
where's that same powder blue sport code? Is the other
two legends? You know?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
So there's that.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It's an endorsement that Sanders says does hit home. Some
two years after he had his diagnosis with bladder cancer,
from which he says he is fully recovered. He said,
I've been walking with my coaches over a mile after practice,
exercising lifting. Saban, of course we'll be back on the
ESPN set his second year of retirement after leaving Alabama,

(38:52):
where he won the sixth national title. He insists he
wants to help college sports to find its footing, but
he doesn't want to be a commissioner. That's an idea
that's been floated around with his name coming up as
perhaps an ideal fit. His quote was, I don't want
to be in that Brier patch of being a commissioner,
but I do want to do everything I can to
make it right. So Saban and Sanders both are in

(39:16):
agreement that there needs to be more structure around the
players deal, that the deals that the players are signing
since the first of July. Schools have been allowed to
pay upwards of twenty and a half million dollars each
to their athletes over the next year under that House settlement,
along with third party and il deals that have turned

(39:37):
some players into millionaires. You know, that's the real rub here.
It's not for twenty and a half million, yeah, it's
it is. It's big for you know, smaller colleges, even
my alma mater, University of North Texas. You know, that's
that's under the gun to make sure they're coming up
with twenty and a half million to be a current player.
All of that is important, not for big power for

(39:59):
institution started looking well beyond that. A lot of the
scuttle bud and rumors at the University of Texas was
looking at probably an annual nil budget, nothing else, nil
budget alone, needing one hundred million dollars every year. Now
that's not money that they can pay. It would be
the nil partnerships with businesses that student athletes would have.

(40:24):
The Bijon Mustardsons of the world. And as it shows
me his Tumblr that has a Bejon on it, or
his deal with Lamborghini or whatever, those types of outside deals,
that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Well.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Saban says that he believes that what is forgotten I
meand all the hype about name, image and likeness deals,
the deals that Sanders's are a joke because quote, there
were only three or four guys who you might know
they're nil and the rest are just giving money to
is what happens to the vast majority of these players
after they leave school. Saban's quote was, for years and

(41:08):
years and years as coaches and when we were players,
we learned this. We were trying to create value for
our future. That's why we were going to college. It's
not just to see how much money we can make
while we're in college, it's how does that impact your
future as far as our ability to create value for ourselves.
What is it that the coaches like to say at Texas,

(41:31):
it's not a four year decision, it's a forty year decision.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
In the recruiting, it's a.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Forty year decision because of the way you can create
the life for yourself beyond the forty acres once you
leave the University of Texas, once your eligibility has expired,
even if you play pro sports, and of course the
percentage of those is very, very small, but for those
who play pro football or Pro basketball, or Major League

(41:58):
baseball or whatever, pro volleyble, soccer, whatever it might be,
pro golf, tennis, even track and field. Whatever you're accruing
as an athlete beyond your years at Texas, Eventually that ends. So,
as Saban said, for years and years and years as

(42:18):
coaches and when we were players, we learned this. We're
trying to create value for our future. That's why we
were going to college. It's not just to see how
much money we can make while we're in college. It's
how does that impact your future as far as our
ability to create value for ourselves Now. Currently, conferences whose
schools do not advance to the twelve team playoff receive

(42:41):
four million dollars for making the bracket. Those schools who
advance the playoffs get four million just for getting into
the bracket, and the payments increase for every round they win. Well,
Saban said, Sanders's idea about spreading the wealth with an
NFL style playoff bonus structure for the players, like, for example,
winners of the Super Bowl got one hundred and seventy

(43:03):
one thousand dollars a piece last year. It's funny the
Ogs among you will remember Super Bowl One Packers and Chiefs.
Every member of the winning Green Bay team got fifteen
thousand dollars. Every member of the losing Chiefs team got
seventy five hundred, one hundred and seventy one thousand dollars
per man on the winning squad last year, and Saban

(43:23):
said that sounded like a good eye idea for him.
He also had no love for proposals coming out of
the Big Ten that would give that league in the
SEC multiple automatic bids, he said. The NFC says the Cowboys, Eagles,
and Giants they had the biggest fan bases of anyone,
and they have to play their way in everyone should
play their way. In one year, a conference might get

(43:44):
five teams, in another it might get three. But there's
no scenario in any competitive venue where you're guaranteed a
playoff spot.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You sure he's not going to be commissioner of college football.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
He's sounding like a commissioner, so quold ask it are,
but he says it's not me, not for me. All right,
coming out, we're gonna hear from a guy who just
likes coaching. In fact, I asked Steve Sarkishan last night
the last thing. I think it was the last thing
I asked him in the program, or one of the things.
I asked him, what do you like most about this

(44:19):
whole thing? And he said, I just like coaching. I
like getting with my guys. I like the two hours
on the field every day. He likes diving into the
video cut ups, all of that kind of stuff. He
likes coaching. That's the we're gonna hear from the Long
Wretch head coach from his media availability from this morning.
That's next on thirteen Under the Zone. Glad to have

(44:41):
you with us on a Thursday afternoon here on sports
Radio AM thirteen Under the Zone. Before we get back
to hearing from Long Ort's head coach, Steve Sarkisian, a
couple of questions from the text line. Our man cepale
at a question in the comment. First the comment, he said,
I'm a Cowboys fan, but many of his fans are
tired of Jerry Jones drama. They said it on the

(45:01):
cow Herd Show, the one that precedes this one, but
then they talk about it for ten minutes. I'm sure
many fans are kind of drama weary when it goes
to that seapile and then the especially as it relates
to a star player, an impact player who's embroiled in

(45:25):
a contract dispute. But haven't we been down this story before?
Obviously with Dak Prescott, Zach Martin and then Ceedee Lamb
last year, and deals ended up getting done, but it
just always seemed to go to the wire. And this

(45:45):
thing is kind of building to a bit of a
crescendo before the Cowboys open their season, by the way,
a week from tonight, a week from tonight, against this
defending Super Bowl champion of Philadelphia Eagles in a game
you can hear on her big sister station ninety eight
point ONEFM KVET next Thursday night. But so they're one

(46:08):
week out from kickoff. Brian schott Namer has continued to
say that he expects the deal will get done. Dak
Prescott has said that as much when asked. This one
has a little bit different feel to it, not necessarily
that the deal won't get done, but maybe that sign
and trade kind of thing might come into play, I
don't know, or maybe Parsons comes in the camp, maybe

(46:31):
they do a deal like what the Bengals did with
Trey Hendrickson, right, they did the deal where he just
took a fourteen million dollar raise and that was it.
He's still going to be a free agent at the
end of the year. I can't see Jerry doing that,
but something to get it off the impass, to get
him in the fold so that he can play soon,

(46:54):
if not in the opener. So, yeah, it's people get
tired of it. I totally agree with you. That's not
going anywhere, at least in terms of the Jerry Jones things.
I have to tell you this Seapow. I am equally
wearied by those who say, oh, let's just driven, drive

(47:17):
me crazy. The Joneses have got to go. They got
to go there, not going anywhere. They're here, been here.
So it's nineteen eighty nine. Jerry's not going anywhere. He's
eighty two years old, He's come through cancer, all that
stuff he made, and it really comes across pretty plainly
in that documentary that this is his life and livelihood

(47:41):
and profession. It's not like a lot of NFL owners
who have it as a lost leader hobby, you know,
that sort of thing. It's on the side, it's not
their main business, like the Ford family owning Alliance. It's
not like that this is the busines and see mortgage
himself greatly into the future to be able to afford

(48:04):
to get in there and roll up his sleeves and
handle it his weight. Now I'm in complete agreement with
everybody else that he has not handled it well as
a general manager, and we were done far better to
bring in a GM. But we know that's not going
to happen, so it's no point in wishing for it.
It's going to be done. The other thing see Powell asked,
was he said, sure, Miss b Jehan, we talking about

(48:27):
John Robinson. Do Division two and Division three schools have nil?
The answer is yes, they are. Anybody under the NCAA
banner NCAA jurisdiction is eligible for student athletes is eligible
for nil. Here's the rub. You know, Division two schools

(48:50):
can't offer much beyond the scholarship, and there are no
scholarships at the Division three level. You can, however, get
NIL in a Division three school. You can do a name,
image and likeness deal with a car dealership or a
mustard company, or you know whatever, a department store, whatever.
You can do that. As a Division three student, he's
just not getting a scholarship because they don't. Scholarships go A.

(49:13):
Division two schools do have them, but not the three schools.
Chuck and Houston is still not buying that back tightness
story about Micah. That tightness my as it says, understand,
but they continue to say that's the deal. So we'll see.
All right, let's hear some more from Longhorn's head coach,
Steve's Sarksian. He was asked about it, and folks know

(49:37):
about this that Lee Corso is working his final game
for ESPN College Game Day, so it's going to be
a very emotional day and all that sort of stuff.
And I'll be honest with you, even though the game
is being televised by Fox, their Big Newon Kickoff show
is pretty much being overshadowed by the lead course of Farewell.

(49:58):
And even if he wasn't leaving more people watch College
Game Day than watch Big Now Kickoff Special, especially what's
going to be his swan song. And sark was asked
for his thoughts on Lee Courso's contributions to the game
in College Game Day and that final appearance on the
show for the coach.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
I think we owe a lot to Coach Corso. Uh,
And I think we owe a lot to College Game Day.
What what what they were able to do and from
from the onset of that show with obviously Chris Fawler,
Kirk kurb Street and Lee Corso and the exception of
the show, and then the evolution of the show, and
and just the the the entertainment factor that that Coach

(50:40):
Corso brought to the game to create the energy and
the excitement around Saturdays in college football. I think for
so long college football has always been such a great
celebration every Saturday, but it was very localized.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
It was in your own town.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
It was in Austin, Texas, or in Tuscaloosa, or in Athletes, Georgia,
and those those regions really celebrated their games and their moments.
What College Game Day and coach Coach Corso were able
to do was expand that nationwide. And they were able
to bring Austin, Texas around the country. They were able
to bring Tuscaloose, Alabama around the country and make you

(51:15):
feel like you were there.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
And then the idea that.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Coach coch Coach Corso was able to bring this aspect
of a coach and very analytical approach to the games
that were being played. But then the entertainment and doing
the headgear at the end of every show. I know
that was something that we all used to all continue
to look forward to of what was he going to do,
like that was going to really determine who was going

(51:40):
to win the game or not.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
But that was the beauty of.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
The show, was getting people excited about every Saturday for
college football. And so owe him a ton of respect.
He's I'm a huge fan of his, He's a friend
of mine. He's somebody that every opportunity I get when
he has one of our games, you know, I know
he doesn't do the games. If he's on the sidelines,
I always going and say hello to him because I
kind of grew up in this profession as college game Day,

(52:08):
grew up in the in the sport, and so oh
a ton to him and oh a ton to college
game Day.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I understand exactly what sark is talking about about how
in the pre college game Day portion of its existence
of college football, and even when say CBS when they
had the contract in the eighties and ABC at its games,
there would be pregame shows and this again show my

(52:37):
age I enjoyed as a teenager in the seventies watching
the Prudential College Scoreboard after a game with Merle Harmon
and Dave Diles on ABC. And I liked that. It
was a lot of fun, and it'd show these boards
and the numbers would digitally click through and all that
other kind of stuff. I liked all that, but it
was certainly game day that put that type of celebration

(52:58):
on the map. Otherwise, to Sark's point, and I'm in
complete agreement with us, and they've had personal experience with this.
College football had its celebrations every Saturday, but they were communal.
There were much more within the structure of the campus,
and people went to the college games. I remember my

(53:19):
dad tell me this when I was really little that someday,
he said, you're going to really like it someday when
you go to college and get to go to the
football games on a Saturday. And my dad in the
late forties was working in my grandfather's grocery store in
the small town in Ashboro, North Carolina Way Grocery, and
people would be driving from Charlotte on their way up

(53:41):
to Chapel Hill to see North Carolina, or Raleigh to
see NC State, or Durham to see Duke and it
would stop off at my grandfather's store. My dad was
fifteen or sixteen and working in the store on a
Saturday afternoon, and the loading groceries and things like that,
and we'd talk about people getting out in their school
color and how excited it was. But it was a

(54:02):
much more campus and communal environment, and I got to
witness it for myself even as a teenager before I
graduated high school, and I went to watch college football
games as a kid. I think the first game I
ever saw was NC State in Virginia in Raleigh when
I was like thirteen with some friends and their parents.
It's first time ever witnessed tailgating. I didn't know what
the heck they were doing. When they were opened up

(54:23):
the trunk of the car and pulling out fried chicken.
I was like, what is this? And then like a
year or so later, my dad and I went to
see North Carolina playing Northwestern and it was a season
opener for the Tari Hills at Keenan Stadium. And I'll
never forget this because and a lot of people know this,
this is largely in the South, but it does happen
in some other places, largely in the South, when students

(54:49):
would gather in the stadium, there would be the cheerleaders
there and one cheerleader, usually a male cheerleader with a microphone,
were walking along a platform. This is long before the
game starts, like an hour hour and a half for
the game, and they're trying to get the students all
working up, worked up and yelling. And I saw it
happen at several different stadiums. On this particular Saturday in
Chapel Hill, the cheerleader was getting gone and I walked

(55:12):
in right when he said, Okay, you got it, all right,
here we go, and I did. He apparently had been
warming up the crowd for a cheer they all wanted
to do. I did not know what that cheer was.
I was just walking in through the portal and then
I heard it, and then they started, all right, all right,
all right, okay, okay, okay, all right, all right, okay, okay,
let's get naked. That was the wait what yeah, that's

(55:35):
what they said. Now nobody got naked, but that was
the cheer. So so it made me think of that
when I heard Sart talk about it being the communal
thing on campus Lee Corso and on a larger scale.
ESPN's college game Day helped elevate it beyond that. We'll
hear more from Sart coming up. I'm thirteen under the zone.

(55:57):
All right, Let's let's hear some more from Longgren's coach,
Steve Sarkisian. This is from this morning's media availability with
the coaches, which he does by zoom and.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
The first.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I always say the first because there always has to
be a first, because there's always more than one. I'm
speaking of questions about Arch manning at every media availability,
at every media opportunity, at every press conference, there's always
multiple questions about Arch. So the first of those asked

(56:36):
of Sart was how would he know and what is
he looking for out of the pregame even routine for
Arch on Saturday morning in Columbus to understand that he's
ready for work.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
You know, I think the biggest thing is him stands
true to his routine. You know, I'm going to I
know the things that he does when he arrives at
the stadium, and you know the routes he throws when
he first gets out there and warm ups to you know,
what he puts on to how he goes through warm
ups and then his demeanor, his body language. You know,
I think being true to himself is the best thing
that he can do, and so that's what that's you

(57:14):
know what I anticipate him being.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Sark has been around some really good football teams. After all,
the head coach of this program here the last four
years has seen his team's roll off twenty five wins
against just five losses Prior to that, obviously being involved
with national championship teams as an assistant at Alabama at

(57:38):
USC So he's been around some really good football teams.
And I think it was our friend Kirk Bowles from
the Houston Chronicle usque Sark. Has he noticed any commonalities
not only with this particular Texas team and those other teams,
but even just.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Through and through the thread that's the.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Connective tissue amongst the type of national championship contending teams,
and Mike, does Texas team fit into that category?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
I think, you know, the best teams I've been around,
you know, the really best teams I've been around all
had great defenses, you know, and I do think we
have a pretty good defense, and we'll find out obviously
as a season unfolds. I think that we have depth
like those teams had. You know, he always felt like
on those teams it was hard to distinguish between the

(58:26):
two deep who was a one and who was a two,
that the backups sometimes almost looked as good or better
than the starter. And I think we've got really good
depth on this team. And then I think there's great leadership.
You know, there's there's leadership, and there's a personality about
the team. And I've been fortunate with these guys that
we've got great leadership. We've got guys that are highly competitive,
that are driven, that are focused, but the same token,

(58:49):
they know the value of everybody in the room and
why everybody's important. And so again, you know, there's a
lot to unfold for this season, but I do think
we've got some pretty good agree ingredients.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
And now we've got to go play and see how okay.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
And that means the pot of gold at the of
the rainbow. And I'm not talking about a national championship.
I'm not even talking about college football playoff or even
playing for a conference championship. No, the reference here to
start was about just a reward for the work that

(59:27):
his team has put in for them to be able
to take the field in an environment like this on
Saturday in Columbus for it to have the meaning that
it should have for a team, the enjoyment that he
wants them to have for all the hard work that
they put in, the investment of themselves that they've made

(59:50):
into this program, and what they hope will be the
success of this football program. And Sart was, you know,
pretty direct and adamant about how much he wants his
team to enjoy the fact that they've been able to
put themselves in a position not necessarily just because of
the number one preseason ranking, but because of the hours

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they put in and the work that they have done
to become a better football team and ready for this season,
that they should also enjoy this moment and understand that
they're in this position because of what they put into it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Roster, we put a lot of work into to That's
it's interesting you asked that. That's exactly what I talked
to them about at the end of practice today. You know,
they've they have worked really hard, and I was so
impressed with their temperament today at at our at our
Thursday practice and just the the energy, the speed in

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which we operated with the communication but yet there was
a sense of confidence, which is a good thing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
As a coach you want to see.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
You don't like getting close to the game and guys
feeling uneasy. I think our guys feel confident in what
we're doing and so, but that was my point. We've
worked so hard to get to this point. I told him,
I love this opportunity for us, I love it for them,
I love it for our coaching staff. A lot of
people put a lot of time and effort into it.
But it's not just about this game. I think it's
this journey we're about to go on for the season

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that we put a lot of work to build this roster.
We put a lot of work into to develop the leadership.
We've put a lot of work into putting people in
the right spots to have some success and to and
to build up the depth that we have. And now,
like I said, we it all has to unfold for
the season. But we've earned this and we've earned this opportunity,
and so I I love it for them that they

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get this opportunity, UH to go play the first game
of the season on this stage.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Now, let's let's go perform.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Sar made reference to it in the opening statement that
we aired last hour, he just now kind of made
a reference to it, and you're going to hear him
make a reference. So if you're tuned in at five
o'clock again, we have our season premiere of Longhorn Weekly
with Coach Sark coming up. Normally the program will be
heard Thursday nights at seven. It's at five this afternoon

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because the Round Rocket Express came to night. It'll be
at five o'clock next thursdays.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
It will also have a reairing on Friday afternoons at five,
So if you miss it coming up at five today,
it'll be on again tomorrow afternoon at five. But you're
going to hear Sark make a reference similar to what
he just made and what he certainly made in the
opening statement that we aired an hour ago about how
hard he and his staff pushed this group this week

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in practice, and he said, we had some hard driving
practices and he was thrilled with the way they responded.
So you'll hear him talk more about that again on
Longhorn Weekly. And we've got Jamal Charles on as a
guest and Duenna Kena, the once and Futur assistant coach
there for Sark as well. So we have all that

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coming up at five o'clock, but we'll be back to
wrap up hour number two here on thirteen hundred the Zone.
Craig Way joined by the producer Jake Kerma. Glad to
have you with us this afternoon. Uh, Jake, I haven't
even really asked you yet. I mean, I know you
settled back into the area when you moved down here.

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Have you gotten old, settled in nicely and everything?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah? Yeah, we're getting we're getting situated.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Uh you know when did you actually move back from
the DC area back here into the greater Austin area.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
See, so I started a week ago Monday, got to Austin,
got the keys of the apartment on Thursday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Okay, so it's been two weeks now, Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Was it made any easier because you had lived here
as a student you kind of knew your way around already.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
A little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Although we're we are right now at iHeartRadio Studios.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Not really a side town you never knew anything about, right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Not really an area I ex or too much. As
a student.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
You had you hadn't been around the uh the uh
not only the iHeart compounded even out by Pennypacker Bridge before.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I've been up Mount Banel before.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Okay, the three sixty lookout, Yeah, but just little little
one offs now stein Ston't you know, don't explore Austin enough.
And I was guilty of that unfortunately for a lot
of the time. Okay, all right, any stay in your
little bubble.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Well when you were when you were in school, did you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Uh, you know, go out to the lake much with
with with friends.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I was lucky enough to be invited on a couple
of fun lake barges I covered. I called play by
play for the club hockey team, and they always put
a barge on. That was a great time they go
out on Lake Travis or Lake Austin. I'd also go
out and rent a paddle board, paddle board sometimes little Kayak. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
So when you did this play by play, uh, what
platform were you broadcasting it to?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
So when TSTV did the game, that was that was
where we did it. But most of the games were
on a platform that was just just a pay per
view website called black Dog Hockey Real, and they made
it really easy for me to be able to update
the graphics while calling the game. It'd be me and
a camera guy up there, and if I had it
my way, I could have the camera guy throw on
a headset and do some color.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
So how much if somebody wanted to see this? And
I guess maybe what family and friends of the guys
playing probably would pay to see this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Yeah, I think families and friends were most of the audience.
And I'm not even sure if there's still broadcasting on there.
I mean, I I you know, I used the team
account to go in and watch my own replace.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I understand, understand. Okay, So how much did it cause
us to watch this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
I'm not sure. Yeah, I think it's a it's a
monthly thing. I don't think it's as much as Flow Sports. Yeah,
I don't think you can. I think you could buy
it a la carte, But with a monthly subscription you
get all of these they call at the club level
of college hockey, divisions one through three you can get
on there depending on which leagues and conferences have a contract.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
So you count among your play by play credits hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Then, yes, I love calling hockey, really yes, And I've
always grown up a huge hockey fan.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Being spoiled by Alex Ovechkin yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Absolutely. In your time with the Capitals, did you get
to know Alex? Did you get to meet him and
visit with him?

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
You know, it's funny in those media scrums, Craig, there
were you know, lots of reporters on deadline, right, and
I was not one of those. There was never a
moment where it was just me and Alex Ovechkin, or
there was never a moment with Alex Ovechkin where there
were not enough questions. So I figured I'd let those
on deadline ask the questions. But you know, I think
if you had seen me on the street, maybe he'd

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recognize me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Yeah, okay, all right, all right, Yeah, that's something to
keep in mind. Did did did Texas in club hockey
have big rivals? What? Did A and M have a
club hockey hockey team?

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
They did, and I don't know if they're For a
period of time, A and M, oh it was Oklahoma
that was up A division Texas and Texas. A and
M would meet in the playoffs for their division pretty
much every year. A and M would usually have home ice,
but that was always the game I looked forward to
the most. Was was broadcasting Texas versus A and M.
You get a true split crowd. Lots of folks would

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make the trip and it was physical. Let's let's just
say they let them play in collegiate A c ch
A hockey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
What where Where was the home eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
At when I was calling the games? It was up
at Chapparral Ey Yeah, Chaparral Eyes Uh huh yeah, yeah,
I think there's another rin con Cedar Park. They played
at something crossover. They played that sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Okay, okay, all right, get much in the way of crowds.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
It was really hit or miss.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
For for a Friday night with A and M, there
would not be it would be body to body in there. Wow,
and lined up out the door for maybe a Thursday
night against your your, me and green from North Texas.
The player could probably hear me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I didn't even realize North Texas had a club hockey team,
did they did they?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Did? You do road games? Only home games? Only home?
The home game the home team was responsible for the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I got you, okay, all right, So yeah, learn something
I didn't know. You'd also but hockey on your demo reel?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Correct? Oh yeah, okay, I highlight that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
How much. You know you you mentioned this is going
to lead me into this topic I want to have
right right out of the gate here you mentioned, like
when you were in Bismarck and other places you did
sports you mentioned like hockey or volleyball or some of
the other ones, and not much in the way of
football and basketball because there were overall those were on

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bigger networks or or platforms or things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
No, we would call We would call high school football
every Friday night, the occasional college game on a Saturday, Okay,
lots of regular season, just not the state championship, not
the state tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
What what would be an example of a college game
you did?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Would call games at the University of Jamestown, Okay play
Valley City State.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
They call that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
It's what It's usually one of the first games of
the entire college football season. And I don't know, it
might be tonight. I can get an answer for those.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Jamestown Jimmy, a friend of mine is the radio play
by play voice of the Jamestown Jimmy's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
You Little Bit of the Paint Bucket game? No, who
is that Jamestown versus Valley City State?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Usually one of the first NCAA football games on the
entire calendar.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Okay, all right, and where is Valley City State? That
sounds like something from a movie, you know, it's it's
Valley City, Valley City, North Dakota. Yes, okay, all right,
all right, very good, all right. So the reason why
I bring this up is because there was a piece
on esp and dot com by who I think is

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one of their more talented personalities. And he's really really
funny and very very good. That's Ryan McGee. And you
see Ryan's work a lot on Sports Center and some
of the other things. She does a lot of irreverence stuff.
And he brings up the fact that he was a
big North Carolina State fan, and he talks about the
fact that when they played East Carolina for the first

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time and it was a huge win that East Carolina
had beaten in Sea State when he was younger. And
so it goes on, and then he mentioned some of
these other rivalry games because you were just talking about
that rival the paint bucket game, rivalry game, Well, there's
other rivalry games where other games that might fly a

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little more under the radar, he said. For example, he
writes a army Navy, the Iron Bowl, the game, it's
Harvard Yale, the big Game, and they got Stanford Cow
and more cups than you would find in a bed bathroom.
Beyond going out of business sale, he talks about, those
are the games we certainly know. Obviously, Red River Rivalry

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for Texas and Oklahoma, what is now called the Cotton
Holdings Lone Stars Showdown Rivalry series Texas and Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
A and M sounds like Valley City state. Yeah yeah, yeah,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
So he says, college football, far more than any other sport,
is built atop a foundation of rivalries. He said, But
while we as a helmeted nation, tend to focus on
the biggest brand name showdowns, the ones that determine conference titles,
they steer national championship pushes, and have long held down
prime network prime time slots on late November weekends, they

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aren't always the most fun or even the most furiously
football fracases on the calendar. He said. That's why my
favorite personal rivalries are the ones that set fire to
their particular corner of the map with a crazed college
football intensity, But are games that people who live outside
that immediate area might not fully understand or appreciate the

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contests when towns, counties, particular pages of state atlases, and
the individual homes are divided by laundry, when autumn Saturday
evenings aren't just a football game but rather a fistfight
or a family reunion, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Who doesn't want to watch that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
It's Akron and Kent State, stars of the bottom ten
cinematic universe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
He does that bottom ten thing, which is really really good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Located only ten miles apart, who have a snaff who
in the snow every November.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Of the possession of a wagon wheel.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
It's North Dakota State against South Dakota State, Bison versus
jack Rabbits, in a contest that almost always has huge
FCS National Channel implications and almost always ends with postgame
finger pointing that will last for the next three hundred
and sixty four days.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
It's basically the entire.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
This is funny. It's basically the entire Sun Belt Conference,
where divisions still exists, teams still ride buses to games.
Bad blood has flowed through relay reluctantly shared veins of
the likes of Georgia and Georgia Southern versus app State,
and we're soon to be member Louisiana Tech As we're

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zooming the rival rivalry and Dixie against Southern myths, football
feuds that reach back through years gone by and lower
divisions and long abandoned small college conferences. There's an aside
from that that's it's a small part, but it's part
of the reason Texas State is leaving for the PAC twelve.
The biggest is because of the possible future big time

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ramifications of playing in a league like that. If the
PAC twelve can be completely rebuilt, maybe not to the
superpower power five conference structure that it was before splintering
off and now it's just Power four with the other leagues,
but big enough accrued. And then the other reasons. Didn't
have any real rivals in the Sun Belt. You know,

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everybody wanted to beat Louisiana, nobody really had. They didn't
have much of a rivalry at Troy or you know,
or Central Arkansas or Arkansas State or you know, Coastal Carolina.
They didn't have much of that in the in the
Sun Belt. Their biggest rival is the one that they're
playing again when they get going in week two, right

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down the road from them in San Antonio, when they
play UTSA, but they're in different leagues, so I think
that's part of it as well. Probably goes to it somewhat.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
And the realignment doesn't stop at Texas State. It doesn't
stop at the top. Remember that paint bucket game that
I just raved about. Yeah, I live in North Dakota
for a cup of coffee, and I knew all about
its history. Valley City State is now at a different conference, Yeah,
playing an AIA ball.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
And and and Jamestown has gone up to D two
right after they had been an AI and then D three.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Now they're D two. H Craig, I got breaking news
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Let's have it live, breaking news, Yes, per Adam Schefter's
ESPN sources. Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys are trading just like
you talked about in the last hour, three times All
Pro linebacker Michael Parsons two the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Well that was the rumor if they're going to play
that the Packers would be the most interested suitor out
of that deal. So getting the details of that deal
is what's going to be the real interesting piece here.
What all will the Cowboys receive in return? That's what's
going to be interesting to find out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
And I haven't found that out from this initial report. However,
Parsons and the Packers, according to Adam Schefter, have reached
an agreement on a four year, one hundred and eighty
eight million dollar contract. Parsons agent had a hand in
the trade and ultimately negotiating the record breaking contract that
includes one hundred and twenty million dollars fully guaranteed its signing,

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making him the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Wow, So that's what is that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
That is forty five forty six million a year. I
think somewhere forty seven million a year. I think it's
forty seven million a year that he's going to the
pay if it's four years, an one hundred and eighty eight million.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
And the Cowboys get two first round picks.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Okay, all right, Well it was going to have to
take that sort of thing to make it happen. So
there it is. Don't worry about mikeel Parsons anymore no longer.
Dallas cowboy a Green Bay Packer, and they give up
two first round draft picks for him, So at least
you can say that the Cowboy's got something of value

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for him rather than him just being going from hold
in to holdout and sitting out and nothing getting resolved
and all that kind of stuff. So we'll see how
if it pays off.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
If he was never signing for Dallas, I guess this
is a better result for them, but I'm pretty shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Yeah. Just to finish up the Ryan McGee thing about
the college rivalries, he mentions that Central Michigan against Western
Michigan is for the victory. Cannon Kansas and Missouri. We
know the rivalry the next weekend will be reinstated as
the Border Showdown, formerly called the Border War, a title
with roots dating back to that actual border ward between
the two territories Montana and Montana State and the Brawl

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of the Wild. Even the big brand likes a Clemson
in Georgia Stadium is only eighty miles apart. In the
game we just watched in Ireland to open the twenty
twenty five season, Iowa State Kansas State Farmageddon, he said,
why do I relish these raucous regional rivalries, because, as
you are now aware, I grew up right in the
middle of one. Maybe the best example there is He's
Carolina against Nsea State. They play tonight six o'clock on

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the ACC network, So he goes on and talks about
all that other kind of stuff. It is. It is
kind of funny. Ruff and McNeil had been on the
Texas Tech staff. He's but he's a native of Lumberdo,
North Carolina and a former All ECU defender who became

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the coach at ECU in twenty ten. Led the Pirates
of four bowls in six years before he was controversially dismissed.
Now he's a special assistant that wait for it, state,
He said, I call them cookout games because if ever
there is an argument at the family cookout, then it's
probably about a game like this one. To me, it's
what makes college football the best.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
Sport in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
When you look at your brother, your cousin, say you know,
I love you, but for a few hours this weekend,
I'm not going to love you as much as I
usually do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
He said.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
That's how a lot of North Carolina families will be
rolling tonight, especially those who reside between the state capitol
and the outer banks what we call down East right,
that's right, that part of the state from Nag'shead to
Newborn and Scotland Neck to Smithfield one giant barrel of
red and white and purple and gold all swirled together

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in the same living room, and man, do those colors clash.
Lincoln Riley quote, so, I'm from Texas, right. We have
a lot of really intense rivalries that mean a lot
inside the state of Texas, but that people outside of
Texas really don't understand. Lincoln Riley was He's Carolina's offensive
coordinator for five years coaching Unter McNeil. He said, when
in Sea State came to our place in twenty ten,

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I remember in pregame it was already so tense. I said, oh, man,
this is how this is. And Ruff said, yes, it is. Now,
imagine what's going to be like when we go up there.
Buckle up. So he talks about the final Peach Bowl
that was played at Atlanta Fulton County Stadium in ninety two,
when East Carolina played in Seas State and Cole Ridsley

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kind of day and East Carolina ended up winning the game. Anyway,
there's several games like that fly under the radar. Jerry Kill,
the former New Mexico State assistant excuse me, New Mexico
State head coach. He said those games are the ones

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where you look at the other guy and you know
that guy, or you at least recognize that guy because
that guy either lives in your neighborhood or hell, he
might be your brother, explained Jerry Kill when he was
asked about the intensity of Overlook rivalries. Now he's a
special consultant Vanderbilt. Prior to that, he was the coach
of New Mexico State, one half of that Rio Grand
Rivalry versus New Mexico aka the Game. When the Diego

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Pavia logo urination video leaked, which holds its one hundred
and fifteenth edition later this season, he said, if you
like Western movies, you know how it works. This town
ain't big enough for the boast both of us. So anyway,
there's lots of stuff in that article. It's a really
really cool piece. All Right, Up next, we're gonna hear

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more from longhrn's head coach, Steve Sarkisian. Well, we continue
on thirteen under the Zone. All right, a few more
details emerging in this Michael Parsons trade. Micah Parsons Aaron
Dallas is over Adam Schefter. I think Schefty the first
to report it. At the Cowboys have traded Parsons for

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the Packers, and the deal that involves a couple of
number one picks, first round draft picks, and also defensive
tackle Kenny Clark is going to Dallas. So it's two
first round draft picks and defensive tackle Kenny Clark who
will be going to Dallas, and the Packers will get

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Michael Parsons. What do you think of that deal?

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
I just don't think you trade a player like that.
How do you trade a player like that with his
skill set? I was just, once again one of those moments,
despite my Washington allegiances, it's one of those moments where
I am genuinely feeling for Cowboys fans.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Well, put it this way, if you are going to
trade him, you better get value for him. Two number
ones helps.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
And if the relationship was really that far gone and
he was never going to be a Dallas Cowboy in
twenty twenty six or he was never going to suit
up for the team this season, yeah, then it was
the best bad move they could have made.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Yeah, So we'll see how they go from that. It
could be Jerry kind of envisions this as like what
he is and Jimmy Johnson did with the herschel Walker
trade that ended up being a flood of draft picks
because there was a weird clause in that trade, because
the Cowboys also picked up five players, and they were

(01:22:14):
just like spare change bag of doughnut guys that they
thought the Cowboys would need and would keep because they
had gone one in fifteen. But the clause in it
said that if those players did not stick with the Cowboys,
any of them, there were first round draft picks and
second round draft picks tied to them. So Jimmy Johnson's method,

(01:22:37):
to his madness all along, was to cut those five guys.
He did, and they got extra first and second round
draft picks, and from that they were able to move
up and get him at Smith, and they were able
to get Darryl Johnston, and there were other guys that
ended up building that Super Bowl team. Maybe Jerry sees
this as his He always wanted more credit for that
than folks were willing to give him on the hershel

(01:22:58):
Walker trade. And I think that the vast majority of
the credit should go to Jimmy on that deal. He
had the vision for it as a personnel guy with football.
But that's neither here nor there. Now Jerry may see
this as his opportunity for the modern day Hersha Walker trade.
We'll see how it ultimately turns out. All right, let's
hear some more from Longhorn's head coach Steve Sarkisian. So,

(01:23:22):
Kenny Clark will be a new Cowboy, the two first
round picks will be new so it's new guys trying
to find out their deal. Well, sark was asked about
his new guys, the freshman in particular, how many of
his group is he planning to take to Columbus and
what helps them find the winning routine when you get

(01:23:44):
on the road as a group.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Well, I think part of it is that's why we
did the mock game last weekend, and that's why we
did everything from our Friday meetings, our Friday walked through
to going to the team hotel, to having meetings at
the hotel, to how do we eat dinner? To what's
the the vibe and energy in and around the hotel
and the morning of the game, and then what is

(01:24:06):
your routine? And and my big thing is it's about
routine and and once you find your routine and your
rhythm on game day that allows you to be have
a little bit more freedom and a little bit more
loose when there's unknowns, that's when then certainty creeps in
and and you're wondering what's next and so. But but
I also, you know, talk to those guys a lot
about follow the leaders. They know, right, Anthony Hill knows,

(01:24:30):
you know, Arch knows, DeAndre Moore knows, Ethan Burke knows, uh,
And I can the list could go on and on
and on of guys who have who have been in
big games and and body language and demeanor and things
of that nature. But again, I I I think I
love the idea of being loose on game day. You know,
there's a there's a there's a sense that you you know,
definitely you have to have the right mental intensity and

(01:24:50):
the right mental focus.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
But but we should have instilled enough belief in them
that they're more than capable to perform, whether that's through
the schemes, whether that's through a bil, whether that's through
specific players doing specific things, that they should have a
lot of belief and confidence in knowing that we've got
the right pieces in place to go perform at a
high level.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Another question that Sark was asked about that its Cole
Hudson and his journey back from injury and then getting
reps along the offensive line and now on all probability
the starting center for Saturday. But he asked about Hudson's journey.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Yeah, what I love about Cole Hudson This guy's blue collar.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
I mean, he is a blue collar guy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
He is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
He's a tough ass, he's smart. He's had to grind
his way through his career. It felt like every offseason
the guy was going under the knife and having to
have surgeries and he couldn't train all off season because
of his shoulder. He couldn't train the next offseason because
of another injury. What I love it for him that
this has been a clean year for him. You know,

(01:25:49):
coming out of the season, he's allowed himself to really
be with coach Beckton in the weight room, really trained,
really worked with coach Flood on the fundamentals and techniques needed.
He's definitely got the smarts to play center at a
high level for us, but he's also got the nastiness needed.
But now he's got the physical ability that can match
that nastiness because he's had now, you know, nine months

(01:26:12):
of really training for this season.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
It really really worked very hard. Now about those freshmen.
How many are going to make this trip and what
is he expecting from them?

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
We're bringing all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
You know, I think it's important for me to expose
these guys to to the environment. You know, this isn't
going to be the first big environment we're going to
play in this year, and you know, coming out of
this week's game, we're gonna have three home games and
then we're gonna have to go on the road again
to another tough environment. And so the idea that maybe
they don't play, maybe they play a limited role, maybe
it's just on special teams, but the idea that they're

(01:26:45):
getting exposed to what it's like to travel with us
and that regiment, that routine to the hotel, as I said,
to the environment on game day, to being on the road.
I think it's important to expose them all to this because,
like I said, this won't be the last time that
they'll be in a tough environment like this. But again,
there's varying stages of freshmen on our roster right now,
and some guys are going to play a real integral

(01:27:07):
role Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
There's other guys that I can tell you aren't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
Going to play in the game, but all of them,
over time, I think will be significant contributors to the program.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Sark was then asked about the matchup of tight ends
transfer Portal Find tight Ends and how good these two
guys are. Max Claire is the junior transfer from Purdue
to Ohio State. Jack Hendrees, of course, the junior transfer
from cal to Texas. Both are on the Mackie Preseason

(01:27:38):
Award watch list. Both head coaches are very very familiar
with both tight ends, and so Sark was asked for
his thoughts on both of those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Yeah, I love Jack Andrees. You know, he's a really
versatile player and I didn't know all of that when
we got him. I knew he had the pass catching
ability and the speed, but he's a very smart player,
can play multiple positions. He's more than a willing blocker,
and so his versatility is something that excites me. And

(01:28:08):
he's obviously got a lot of experience, and so that
that part's helpful for us.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
As far as as far as they're tight end.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
You know, we recruited him pretty hard coming out of Purdue.
It was kind of he and Max and was like, man,
if we can get one of these two, we'd be
we'd be great. And I think Ohio State was thinking
the same thing. If we can get one of these
two guys, would be great. And they got one, we
got the other. And Max is a tremendous weapon in
the passing game. You know, at Perdue they split him out.
He was all over the field and so he's a

(01:28:37):
he's a dangerous weapon and a and a nice compliment
to the other receiving threats that they have on their team.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Okay, and then one more from sark uh and then
and then we'll take a break and talks more about
this Cowboys trade, the kicking battle. Obviously, with Bert Auburn
having left, he's gone to Miami now, Mason Shipley came
in from Texas State, the kid from Marble Falls as well.
And Shipley of course was in that big kicking battle

(01:29:05):
place kicking battle with will Stone throughout the course of
the fall camp workouts, and sark was asked about the
type of camp that Shipley wound up having a.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
Thought Mason really came on strong the last two and
a half weeks of training camp. You know, obviously it's
a transition, new roster, new team, new kind of regiment
to how we go through training camp and when we
do our special teams. But I really thought he had
had a really nice last two and a half weeks
a camp.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Okay, all right, So there it is. The thoughts on
Mason Shipley. All Right, we need to break when we
come back more onless Cowboys trade. Micah Parsons no longer
Dallas Cowboy, traded to the Green Bay Packers. We'll continue
on thirteen under the zone. Okay, So here's here's some
of the responses already on the text line about this

(01:29:51):
trade of Micah Parsons from the Cowboys to the Packers
for the two first round draft pick. So there is that.
And who else we said, the defensive tackle Kenny Clark.
Kenny Clark? Who? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
So that voice you just heard was none other than
Cameron D. Parker.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
The D on the birth certificate stands for Dallas, named
for his dad's favorite pro football team that they've been
angry about because they just to kind of, you know,
sat around the Cowboys and Jerry and not done anything.
Well that he done something, Cam, So I asked him
to come in uh and and get his thoughts as
a lifelong Cowboy fan, and I'll set the table for

(01:30:37):
you by saying, here's here's one comment that said, the
Cowboys have the worst GM in franchise history, Dallas wins
nine or less games this season. Somebody else, Jerry Jones
got the Dallas Mavericks disease. And then somebody else say
Sea Palace saying the Cowboys are hurt this year, sad Sea.

(01:31:00):
And then somebody said the Cowboys play the Packers station.
They do, don't they you? I think they play in Arlington.
I think they played.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Earlier this season, Yeah, at Jerry World.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
So so anyway, there's those kinds of responses. What do
you make of this trade since you're a you know,
at least on the periphery as a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 6 (01:31:18):
I think I'm going to the courthouse today and figuring
out a way to change my mental name because I
do not want to be associated with the city of
Dallas after this trade. Now I know the Cowboys play
in Arlington, They're still called the Dallas Cowboys. It's it's indefensible, Craig.
This is this might be one of the worst trades
in sports history, maybe only behind the Luka Danch's trade,
which only happened, you know, a few months ago. Fortunately

(01:31:40):
I'm not a Mavericks fan, but I was actually on
the phone with Mike Hardball Heart when the trade happened,
discussing our pregame show for Saturday Longhorns game they Live
to Cover three on Ederson Lane.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Shameless plug there.

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
And I saw the push on vacation across my phone,
and my heart just sunck and I said, hard she
just got traded to the Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
And Harder's like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
I gotta go. We both just hung up because we
couldn't believe him. We couldn't believe it. Two first round
draft picks against a team that's in your conference, that's
going to be that's already a good team, that's your rival,
you're going to trade him to your rival. So now
those now you can say, oh, yeah, we got two
first round draft picks. Well, first off, those picks are

(01:32:23):
going to be worth nothing because they're going to be
late in the first round twenties to the thirties, because
the Packers are going to be contenders. And also, if
they are good, Craig Jerry will just trade him away
in three years when they're asking for a contract extension
because you have Micah Parsons, a top five NFL player.
He's been top ten in the sacks in every single
season he's been drafted.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
He's consistent. He's one of the best edge rushers in
the NFL.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
He's going to be a future Hall of Famer most likely,
and you trade him away. You can't replace that. The
Cowboys defense already is pretty thin, not a lot of
depth there. And you give up a three time All
Pro linebacker because what out of pride, Jerry, out of pride,
out of stubborness, because you had this deal with him,
quote unquote, and then his agent wants to make a deal. Jerry,

(01:33:08):
You're a businessman. You know how this works. You've dealt
with various NFL athletes and their agents your entire life.
How how do you let this happen? How does Steven
Jones let this happen? Every single Cowboy and I've talked
to today, we had the same thought. We're out, like
it's been you know, kind of a joke and a
bit on the show. And you know, I didn't really
watch any games last season, and now same thing, like

(01:33:30):
not only am I out, Like they're just dead to me,
Like when I watch the NFL this season, if the
Cowboys are playing, I might watch. But it's not out
of out of love or passion for my favorite team.
It's just, oh the Cowboys are on. I'm done. I
don't care if they win for super Bowls in a row.
I'm completely out. It's it's the testable move here from
Jerry Jones. It's a brain dead organization and it's the

(01:33:51):
reason why they have not won anything in only three decades.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
What if they turner? What if?

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
I just kind of raised this, what if? What if?
This is Jerry's way of trying to make his own
herschel Walker trade from nineteen ninety now. Jimmy was the
genius behind it, even though if you'll see in the
documentary they both part of the contention was each felt
the other didn't get or each felt they didn't get
enough individual credit on that. Who deserved who really came

(01:34:18):
up with the idea about that? And remember what Jimmy
did with that. Those five players they got had the
clause attached where they if they didn't make the team,
they'd get draft picks first and second rounders, and that
started the flood of draft picks so that they got EMMITTT.
Smith or able to move up to get em, and said,
so that they got Daryl Johnson, so that they got
Russell Maryland, so that they got other players as well.

(01:34:40):
Maybe Jerry envisions this as his own personal herschel Walker
deal from nineteen ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
But they only got Kenny Clark back, who I didn't
even know who he was until just now, and there's
probably not a clause attached to it, in just two
first round draft picks. And Michael Parson is a much
much better player than hersh Walker was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Now you say you don't know Kenny Clark, he was
a pro bowler.

Speaker 6 (01:35:03):
He was a good player, I mean Pro bowlers, Like
wasn't uh Tyler Pro Bowlers?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Thank you, Jake.

Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
So Michael Parts is a three time All Pro linebacker.
That's pretty pretty darn hard to earn that accomplishment. Interesting, Marina,
I think both I know you know this guy, and
I think you might as well. Jake Earl Powell was
in here and interned or was interned. Tommy Yarish is, Yeah,
he's a Dallas Cowboys dot Com staff rider. Now, so

(01:35:32):
he writes with just one week remaining before the NFL
season begins, the Dallas Cowboys have made one of the
most shocking moves in NFL history.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
On Thursday, the team traded all Pro pass rusher Michael
Parsons of the Green Bay Packers. According to a tweet
from Parsons on social media, In exchange for Parsons, the
Cowboys received a twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven
first round pick and Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kenny Clark. Parsons,
who was going through a contract is put with the
organization while trying to get on extension Dallas abruptly finished

(01:36:01):
his time in Dallas after four seasons. For most of
the offseason, the word used to describe parsons future with
the Cowboys was win. Now it's how it's interesting. He
wrote that for Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Yeah, and I mean he's spot on.

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
I think we all, myself included, thought this deal would
get done. Mike is resigning. I was thinking Thursday, just
like it was with Dak and Trevon Diggs. But just
a very very sad day. And you know, it doesn't matter, Craig,
because the Cowboys will still sell out because you know,
is it an attraction to opposing fans who want to

(01:36:37):
go to eighteen to eighteen t Stadium and go watch
a game there. He doesn't really care about the true
Cowboy fans. He doesn't care about winning Super Bowls, winning
games because he cares more about himself and he cares
more about the message he puts out. And hey, congratulations,
Jerry Jones, you'll be the leading subject on First Take tomorrow,

(01:36:58):
so and get up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
So please happy with that. I'm happy for Michah Parsons.

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
You get to go to what I think is a
first class organization, an organization that actually wants to win.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
They got a great quarterback in Jordan Love.

Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
Obviously, they beat the doors out the Cowboys two years
ago when Mike McCarthy was the head coach and the
Cowboys had their hopes up for a good run and
gave up what like one hundred points in the first half.
So best wishes of Michah Parsons. I hope he goes
out and dominates and wins MVP. And for the Cowboys.
I feel bad for Brian Schottenheimer because you know, he

(01:37:32):
had his comments he thought that Michael would play Week one.
Feel bad for Dak Prescott and the players on this
team who are working really hard to try and you know,
win games when it's clearly that there's a clown show
still running this organization. So I feel bad for Shoty.
He's put in a very tough spot again. You just
can't replace Michael Parsons. The defense, which was already going

(01:37:53):
to be a question mark this season, I think now
it's going to be possibly a huge weakness in a conference.
It's very tough in as a vision that has the
defending NFL champion and the defending and also the runner
up in the NFC as well, the Washington Commanders and
in the New York Giants, who are still a joke.
But you know, they have a very good They made
some really good moves and even if they don't contend

(01:38:15):
this season the next five ten years, think you probably
feel good about their outlok. They can make the right
hired head coach and GM. So the Cowboys are just
in a real tough spot here going forward. And you know, again,
what hope is there even if they do draft someone
very great with those two first round draft picks, if
they end up being very great, there's a chance they're
probably gonna get getting traded now because Jerry Jones has
already shown this all right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
Not only do the Cowboys play the Packers and play
them early in the season, they play them on Sunday
Night Football. Now they play them on September twenty eighth,
that weekend. It's coming off the Long Orange Open Date.
That open date. As I mentioned, Lynn and I are
going to Las Vegas to see Ringo Star to celebrate
kind of a milestone birthday for me. So we're going
to go out there. We come back through DFW. I've

(01:38:57):
half a mind to get off the plane in df
that be and go out to Jerry World.

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
I may be root as a Packer fan for that game,
but you know how some like Mavericks fans became Luca
Laker fans.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
I might be my wife. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:39:12):
I was texting a friends like, so who do we
root for now? And it's like, I guess whoever drafts
arch Manning in two years?

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
You know? Do I root for the Chiefs for a
comeback story from my homes?

Speaker 6 (01:39:23):
Do?

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Who do you? Who do you root for? You know?

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
I think it's now Rams have Jordan Whittington, Yeah, Jordy Whtington, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
How is chief so high on your list? I like
for some reason.

Speaker 6 (01:39:36):
I'm drawn to organizations that can win, like almost like
a bandwagon way, but more I would respect like I like.
I love the Patriots, the Bill Belichick dynasty. Can I
sell you on Washington?

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
Oh, that'd be kind of hard for you to go there? Yeah,
hard they get there. It's hard to root for someone
in the same division. I need some sort of maybe
a long horn't tie. So that's why I'm thinking Arch.
Unless the Saints draft them, I don't think I canna
be a Saints fan, all right, Or if the God forbid,
the Cowboys draft him. Hopefully Arts just stay in if

(01:40:08):
the Cowboys with the first pick in two years. But
this is gonna be this is gonna be fun. Tomorrow
I'm traveling to Columbus, Ohio, so Cam and Jake are
gonna be here holding down the fort for most of
the pro when I get there and get up into
the broadcast. But I will check in obviously from Columbus
and be on from there. But I have a feeling
this is just a tip of the iceberg for you,

(01:40:29):
so fans will have to tune in for that. We'll
be back to wrap up today's edition of the program.
I'm thirteen under the zone

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