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June 11, 2025 • 106 mins
Andrew Zimmel fills in for Craig Way on a Wedensday edition of the program. We know that the Knicks are looking for a new coach, Lee Corso has his final College Gameday stop and Game 3 of the NBA Fianls is tonight.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What is going on Austin, Texas. Andrews im Will hanging
out with you. Craig Way taking a Yesta today. Cameron
Parker on vacation as well. So the sixth man from
San Antonio steps in to the driver's seat. That's fine,
it's gonna be a great show. We have a great
show prepared for you today. Eric Ruby from Phoenix the

(00:22):
Phoenix Suns Podcast out there, I'm gonna talk to us
about Kevin Durant. As the news continues to roll in,
it looks like we're down to a final five teams
in the Kevin Durant sweepsticks. It sounds like Kevin Durant's
agency and himself are talking to the Phoenix Suns front office.
Could we get a deal as soon as this weekend?

(00:44):
NBA Draft coming up as well, we will talk about
the thirteen players invited to the green room, including Texas's
own Trey Johnson. Yes, he talked of the NBA combine,
talked about the things that he does best, and he
does a lot of things really well. He surprised me
when they asked him what is his underrated skill?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
So we will talk.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
About that, and then of course we have to talk
NBA Basketball NBA Finals Tonight it is Pacers Thunder Game three,
and according to one NBA Hall of Famer, the Pacers
have the thunder exactly where they want them. So we'll
get into that in the next segment, but we start

(01:26):
here because the news broke yesterday. It is maybe the
best sports TV show of all time. It's College Game
Day and they announced where they're going to start the season.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Welcome to call up us.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
I'm telling you what they.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think they'll never be anyone else.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Like him, so fast, give me that thing air.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Coach or an icon you believe in the same side.
Then you opened your arms.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
You have raced me.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Change the sport, change the business. What Lee has done
for the sport of college football he created so.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Jared's end of Fox something he's taught us from the
very beginning. It's entertainment, sweetheart, Football is our veha.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
So that is right.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
College Game Day will be at Columbus and Ohio State
for game number one Saturday, August thirtieth, the season open
air between Texas Longhorns and Ohio State. Buck Guy Reese, Davis,
Lee Corso, Desmond Howard, Pat McAfee, Nick Saban, and of course,
Kurt Herbstreak will all be there for Week one Texas

(02:43):
and Ohio State eleven am kickoff from Columbus, Ohio. Of
course that game will be ironically on Big noon kickoff
on Fox as well. They've tried to move it around.
It's not moving. It is there to stay eleven am.
And of course it's Lee Corso's goodbye. It goes back
to Columbus for maybe the game of the weekend, maybe
the game of the year between the defending national champion

(03:06):
buck Guys and the Texas Longhorns, a team that they
beat in the semifinal round. So this is almost like
a playoff rematch to start the year. And you gotta
love scheduling because you put these teams on the schedules five, ten,
fifteen years in advance sometimes and you just kind of
you know, okay, these are two big brands. You know,
the Texas is on the upswing. But you get a

(03:27):
rematch of a playoff game in year in week number one,
and on top of that, it's Lee Corso's final game
on college game Day. There has never been the stars
aligning more than is what it happened. Then, what is
happening on August thirtieth. But it got me thinking because
large platforms, big lights, Texas in college game day games, and.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
It made me thick because I've heard one way.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I've heard it the other way the Longhorns show up
the lights of brightest, and then I've heard the other
side of it being well, you know, sometimes the lights
are a little bit too bright.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
So I looked it up. Ten and seven.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
All time when the Longhorns are on college game Day
when they were one of the participants. There's five and
two all time when those games are in Austin, three
and three if the game is at the Red River
showdown in Dallas. Okay, well that's all great, fine and dandy.
What's the record on the road, because they will be
the road team when they go to Columbus in August

(04:25):
four and two in those matchups with wins against Ohio
State No. Five at Alabama in twenty twenty three, and
of course that national championship against the USC.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, that counts as well.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So Longhorn fans should feel very good about coming into
this game on August thirtieth. And I'm not one to say,
you know, look, you got a new starting quarterback in
Arch manning Ohio State's coming off a national championship.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Bright.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
The lights are going to be incredibly bright. It's eleven
am kickoff, which, again a lot of fans not exactly
thrilled with, would rather have that game played in primetime.
But I'm just going off the numbers here. I'm just
going off of the history of when these two teams
play and when Longhorns are on college game Day, and
Texas does very well on game day, so I like this.

(05:13):
We kind of had an inclination. We kind of had
an idea that when we learned that coach Corso's time
on game day was coming to a close, that odds
are game Day would go to Ohio State and Texas.
But this feels the right way to send him off.
And I mentioned a bit earlier College Game Day is
the premiere college broadcast. This is what every other broadcast,

(05:37):
maybe outside of inside the NBA. You can make a
case this is the best sports show on television.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Is long running.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
They've had their highs, they have their personalities, and yeah,
they've added some ingredients over the past couple of years.
It feels like they're trying to reinvent the wheel. A
lot of the time with McAfee. But the addition of
Nick sab him and the exitive ly corso that I
don't think Sabman will ever get to the point where
he's putting on the headgear. I don't anticipate that ever happening.
But he is a very good addition to that table.

(06:09):
And Kurt herbstreak is you know, an ultimate professional. Yeah,
are there some times that he might you know, put
his foot in his mouth a little bit and root
for the buck guys, maybe a little bit more than
the casual fan or the neutral fan likes him too,
but humamus, so he played there. I understand this is big.
I'm excited for it. I'm glad they announced it yesterday
ten and four on College Day, game day for the

(06:33):
University of Texas.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Feeling pretty pretty good.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
That was, of course, the big news that came out yesterday.
Now we mentioned earlier too that the Kevin Durant rumors
continue to heat up, and it was reported today that
there are a handful of teams that are now whittled
down to the final five, with Houston being named as

(06:55):
well as San Antonio, which makes everybody very excited around
these parts, makes people excited in the Central Texas area
makes Longhorn fans excited because, Yeah, one of the if
not the best Longhorned basketball players coming home, most talented,
mostly claimed NBA player coming home, top fifteen guy all
time coming back to Central Texas would be big. And
I saw an AI generated image earlier. I trying to

(07:18):
stay away from those things, but I saw an AI
generated image of Victor wembin Yama standing next to Kevin Durant,
and they said, what would be the name of this duo? Now,
rumor has it, you know, Wimby is across the pond.
He's in China right now learning how to be a monk.
Shaved his head. I don't know if he saw those photos,
but he is getting one with his inner chie. He's

(07:39):
going to a Kong Fu retreat. Okay, shout out to him.
Glad he's getting his mind right for the upcoming season.
But he is allegedly seven foot three that's the least
what he was listed as on draft night two years ago.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Now reports are coming out that, you know, he.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Might have grown a couple of inches and he's now
getting rumored to be around seven foot five seven but six.
Kevin Durant his entire career, he has been underselling his
size by an inch six', eleven six.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Nine i'm not. Having it the guy's a.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Seven footer so the idea To Have kevin durant standing
Next To victor wemenyama in, this photo of course, generated
photo what would you name? This DUO immediately i thought
of the most famous Duo In, San antonio spurts history
Of The, Twin Towers David Robinson.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Tim duncan they won a couple.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Titles together i'd expect these two to win at least one,
Championship together Duran. And wimby so why not call Them
The thin towers because both of those guys are. Abnormally Skinny,
kevin durant his entire career has been The.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Slim Reaper.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
VICTOR wemenyama i would like him to put a little bit,
weight on but if he's seven, foot six now come on,
those feet those bones in. THE feet i don't want
him to add any weight that might hurt him slow
him down as his. Career Continues so i'm going With The.
THIN towers i think that's a good name. For him
if you have a, better one tweet at Me At
Andrew underscore ZIMMO on x of course, you know join

(09:00):
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Thirty seconds we will play you on the air if
you have a better name for, the duo the potential
Duo Of Victor webbin Yama And. Kevin durant as those
rumors continue to, heat up, all right when we. Come
back speaking, of RUMORS One nba Hall of famer is

(09:22):
saying That the pacers Have the thunder exactly where they.
Want them we'll tell you who it, is next and
we'll tell you why he might be right all coming
up next On The Craig ways Show On SPORTS radio am,
Thirteen Hundred the Zone Of COURTS radio am Thirteen Hundred
The zone andrews and will.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hang it out.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
With You, hump Day, hump day, hump day midway point of.
The week thanks for hanging out, with us. All RIGHT
So nba finals starts back up again Tonight in game
number two For, the pacers kind of Like how game number.
One went the only difference was they weren't able to close.
The Gap the thunder led by almost thirty points at

(10:01):
one point they had a twenty three. Point lead they
finished winning by sixteen one to twenty three to one.
OH seven i would be a little CONCERNED if i
Was An indian pacer fan as they go Back to
indiana Now for game. Number THREE But nba Hall of
Famer And Champion paul pierce has a different take when
it comes To. The pacers he laid it out yesterday

(10:22):
for us on.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
His show When the pacers got on that plane last
night after losing by sixteen and, they landed they go to,
practice today, they like we, did, it guys we did.
Our job we got we WENT.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
In okc and we.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
Stole one that was the message, all along Because when
i've been in on teams and we going to roll for,
Any rounds, we're like we gotta. Get one we got so.
Mission accompliments they. FEELING good i.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Think this is a very, optimistic take to say. The
Least paul pierce won that championship of the two thousand And.
Eight celtics they went to the finals again in, twenty
TEN and i think back to twenty and thirteen where
no team went back to back games Until The miami
Heat won. Game six, of course On That ray allen
shot and then won. Game seven you see a lot
of these series where you, GET one i, get one you,

(11:09):
GET one i, get one and it's a chess match,
between coaches and it's a chess match between. The players
but the difference between let's say two thousand And eight
celtic team in Twenty thirteen's heat team that won titles
is This Year's indiana. Pacer team cannot go back and
forth With. The thunder HERE'S what. I mean you go
back and you look at game, number two and you

(11:30):
look at those guys who score points For. The, Thunder
yes sga IS. The mvp yes he scored over three
thousand points so far in. These playoffs but go through
and look at the other guys who made immediate impacts
and played very. Good games you got guys coming into
the Starting Line jaalen williams, Nineteen Points chet holmgren, Fifteen

(11:52):
points caruso had twenty points off. The bench there is
too much Talent On oklahoma city to try to go
back and forth and play at cat and mouse game
with this type. Of team they're too, high powered they're too,
strong upfront they have too much talent off. The bench
indiana can't. Do that here's another stat. For you of

(12:13):
the time in these LAST Two nba, finals Games the
thunder have led for ninety. One minutes of those, two
Games the pacers have led for less than, two minutes
and it has only been tied for about two.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Forty five here's. My Point the pacers have.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Gotten lucky they had a good run at the end
of game number one And A tyre's halliburton game winner
gave them a one to zero. Series lead now you
go into, game two you lose by almost Twenty points.
GAME three i would, be very very CONCERNED if i
Was a, pacers fan OR if i Was An. Indiana
Pacer But, tyre's halliburton who before the playoffs got voted

(12:52):
the most overrated player by his, league mates by the
guys that play against him every, single night he was vote.
Most overrated he WAS On nba Today With malika ANDREWS.
On espn she asked him about some of that, outside
noise and he laid it out.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
FOR us i think when, you're successful people will always
find a reason to. Discredit you, You know that's really
how it goes and.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
The way that our sport is.

Speaker 8 (13:20):
Talked about sometimes even by the people who are put
in the.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
Most major positions to.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Talk about it is not always beneficial really, for anybody.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
You KNOW so i just think that's how things.

Speaker 8 (13:33):
Go sometimes, for us it's about control what we. Can
like at the end of, the day it doesn't matter
what people to say about our road to get here
where we are, right now how. We're playing we're three
games away FROM being nba champions and that's that's the,
biggest thing and, you know you're trying to take it
a day at.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
A time before, THE series i Had the pacers losing in.
Four games they won game, number one so immediately my
take went up. And SMOKE so, I, said okay maybe
they can, battle back maybe they. Can fight but through,
TWO games i have not seen a type of team
that could win. These finals you go through the line
of games and teams that they've gone through. AND beat

(14:08):
i thought the Twenty fifteen warriors had a pretty easy
road to get to. The championship they didn't play at
starting point guard THROUGHOUT Their nba, finals run and then
they get the finals and They Beat kyrie irving or
Beat the Cavs Without, kyrie irving And it's Matthew del vadove.
OUT there i wasn't, that impressed but we had sixty
seven wins in the book for that type. Of Team

(14:30):
the pacers this year won. Fifty games that's. Very serviceable
that's a. Good number i'm not saying That the pacers
were a bad team this year by, no means but
they had a pretty easy road to.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
The finals.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
They didn't have to face the Defending Champion boston celtics at.
Full health they Faced a knicks team that they got
completely honest with, the outcut like they out. Coached Them
like thibodeau is fired for a reason because of the
way That Those Eastern conference finals. Games Went the pacers
get to. This, Point yeah halliburton has had an incredible. Playoff,
RUNT yes i will give. Him that but to win in,

(15:06):
the finals you need to have. More scoring you need
to have more elite Offense Than pascal siakam who had.
Fifteen Points miles turner had, Sixteen points halliburton had. Seventeen
points if these are the guys who are supposed to
carry you to a title and none of those guys
hit in twenty, point, figures yes it's nice to have

(15:28):
your entire starting line have multi. Point, games, okay hey
they all had ten ten or. More points that's great
for a regular. Season, win hey everybody's. Getting involved but
when the playoffs start and the finals start and the
heat is turned up to, ANOTHER level i need somebody
to stand up and take control and take. The, Lead
now halliburton has average about seventeen points per game, these

(15:51):
playoffs so him having seventeen in game number two doesn't,
surprise me doesn't, Shock me but it did seem to
shock a lot of the media who were talking to
him yesterday for. Media availability they, asked him what Have
the thunder done defensively to essentially shut?

Speaker 8 (16:06):
You, DOWN yeah I just i feel like at the point,
of attack, you know they got more more guys than,
you know most teams IN the nba that are. High
level at the point, of attack, you know they're really
connected on the, defensive END and i feel like they
they mix, up coverages THEY they i Think coach dagnol
isn't afraid to just kind of do things on, the fly.

(16:27):
You know he he doesn't do everything that's like. Very
traditional he will, you know if you're trying to get a,
thirty three he'll, come double like just out.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Of nowhere you, know that then they've really done that.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
All year they got long guards coming off. The Bench
outs caruso has been the most underrated player IN The
nba playoffs point. Playing period this guy has come off.
The bench he's been an incredible. Role player he's already,
a champion won it With the lakers in. The bubble
this type of guy on your team is a luxury
That the thunder can afford because they had all the

(16:58):
draft capital.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
And they drafted so.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
So well But for halliburton and for, this team if
they really are trying to go ban, for ban match
for match With, the Thunder then tonight's game is going
to tell you a. Whole lot If the pacers come
out of this Loss in game, number two if they
come in to tonight's matchup in front of their home
fans excited as they've been since twenty and twenty five

(17:24):
years since they've SEEN The nba finals game in, Their
arena if they don't show up the way that they
need to in, this game if they don't show up
having some sort of answer for What the thunder we're
able to, do defensively we're going to have. A problem
and this series will end in. Five, games now the
one SAVING grace i will Give, the pacers the one

(17:47):
saving grace that will Give the pacers Is, THAT yes
i like What the thunders coaching staff. Has Done tyris
alliburton tips his hat to the defensive answers That the
thunder have Shown in game. Number Two But rick carlisle
has been, here before won the championship with the Twenty.
Eleven mavericks in, that series he had Answers to lebron

(18:08):
and to Wade. Into bosh There's no Lebron waiter bosch On.
THE thunder I, LIKE sga I. Like chet they are
nowhere close to what those guys were at their peaks in.
Twenty Eleven so carlisle really IS the x factor in.
This series and If the pacers come out tonight and
they have Answers, for shay if they have Answers, for

(18:28):
chet if they can find a way to get the
ball out of the Hands Of tyrus halliburton and move
it around And get siakam early looks And Get miles
turner early looks and get those guys, rolling quick you
could See a game Three going. INDIANA'S way i don't
this feels like a five. Game series, to, me Now
the pacers, are, outmanned Outmatched and i'll be curious to

(18:50):
see what tonight's game looks LIKE because i still have thunder.
In five, all right when we Come, Back inconceivable oh
You know i've Missed this inconceivable coming Up the ax
On The crack Show On SPORTS radio am Thirteen Hundred,
The Zone SPORTS radio am Thirteen Hundred, the zone as
we wrap up our number one Of The Craig. Way,
show now there's a lot of organizations in professional sports

(19:15):
that are. Forward thinking there's organizations, who revolutionize there's organizations
who are doing everything they can to be on the.
Cutting edge and then There's The New. York knicks So,
the knicks who have been doing a lot of things the,
right way they decided To Sign. Jalen brunson they were
able to Trade For Karl, anthony towns and they made
him back To The Eastern conference finals for the first

(19:38):
time in almost twenty.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Five.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Years huge this.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Is a big win for that organization that was a
laughing stock just five. Years ago and then they decided
to do With the knicks two.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
And nick.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
It up what they did was they got Rid Of.
Tom thibodeau, which look if you Don't Like, tom thibadeau
if you think That the thibodeau system of defense and
the small rotations is, A problem i tend to agree.
With you but he was the coach that just got.
You there and this is the first time that this
group has been To The eastern. Conference FINALS and i
have to Add here i'm a big proponent of you

(20:15):
got to get your. Battle scars if you have a
core group of guys who have gone through, the fight
have gone through, the battle have dealt with, adversity before
odds are they're going to get over the hump at.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Some point but the.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
First sign of any sort, of problem you're deciding to
turn tail. And run you're breaking, up teams you're getting rid,
of coaches, you're Impatient which dolan has been known to
be the owner Of The New. York dicks you're not
going to ever have a. Successful organization so getting Rid
Of tom tabodeau maybe it was the, right decision but

(20:47):
it felt like it came at the. Wrong time and
the other problem is if you're gonna get rid. OF
somebody i say this, IN radio i say this in,
other jobs and especially in.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Professional sports you got to have a.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Backup Plan if i'm cutting my, starting QUARTERBACK do i
have the BACKUP that? I like or is there a
guy in the DRAFT that? I Love if i'm getting
into my, head COACH do i already have another coach?
In waiting is there SOMEBODY that i can put back
into that position and feel comfortable with them running, my
organization running. My Team the knicks thought they had, an

(21:20):
answer and turns out they. Do not This Was SEAN
Sharani Nba inside OR on espn earlier Today on.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Pat McAfee when.

Speaker 9 (21:29):
You fire a coach who made it To The eastern
conference finals for the first time in twenty, five years
and you don't really it doesn't seem like they had
a direct path to, a coach whether it's someone, that's
available Like A, taylor Jenkins A, michael Malone A, mike
brown whether it's a coach from another team like this
is not the first time a coach from another team,

(21:49):
Might move BUT as i reported last night, this Morning
the knicks made permission requests over the last twenty four
to forty. Eight Hours On chris finch Of The, minnesota
Timberwolves He may udoka Of The, houston rockets and This
Morning jason kidd Of The. Dallas mavericks all three were given.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Swift denials.

Speaker 9 (22:08):
I'm told i'm told like like these were the reactions teams,
are saying no.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hanging up so let's go through those in case you.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Were Curious Because jason kids was obviously the most, famous
example and we'll get back to him in. A second
but he just went To The east or went To
The Western arms finals and went TO The nba finals
last season With. The mavericks now this year didn't turn
out as well as they wanted it to With the luca,
trading injuries but that's still a coach that just went to.
The finals in the grand scheme, Of Things chris finch
has gone back To Back western conference finals With The,

(22:39):
minnesota timberwolves and then He made dookuh went to the
finals With the celtics and is building Something. In houston
they were the number two seed. This season why would
any of those coaches want to leave the spot where they're.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Currently at it doesn't make.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Any Sense The jason kidd one bothered me the most
because if there was an exit strategy, for him this.
WAS it i didn't think that this hiring made a
ton of sense For. The knicks i'm Not A jason.
KIDD guy i think that he's gotten too much credit
For the. Yannis explosion if, you remember he Was a
Brooklyn nets, head coach he gets Traded to.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Milwaukee to Run.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
The bucks he was the guy who, figured, out hey
Let's give giannis the ball and make him run. The
point and that exploded his growth and he turns INTO,
an mvp and he turns into. A champion he gets
a lot of the credit. For that he doesn't deserve.
That credit he shouldn't get. That credit the only reason
he put the Ball in yanis's hands wasn't because he
saw something in practice, and eureka moment a light bulb.

(23:36):
Went off, oh man gi honest would be a great point. For,
it no the reason he did that is because they
were running out of. Point guards guys, were injured guys.
Couldn't play it was a move, of necessity not a move.
Of genius you want to give, Somebody credit give Credit To,
mark jackson the guy who Helped Build golden state And
who steve courage just took the baton and Ran with

(23:56):
you want to give, guys credit give It To, Mark
jackson jason get does not deserve any sort. Of credit
then you think about last year's team that goes To
The Western cars finals and EVENTUALLY The nba, finals wins
It Beats Chris Finch's. MINNESOTA tapolves i don't think anybody's
out here Thinking That jason kidd is some sort of elite.
Ball knower he was a great, point guard don't get,

(24:18):
me wrong but as a, Head coach i'm not giving
him those type, of flowers at least.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Not yet so For, the Knicks who.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Kid played for when he, was forty if they want
to go out and go bring in A Former New
york neck to go run, their, team no have. At
it but that's not the missing ingredient to a team
that tries to win. A championship this, entire Time the
knicks have been on. This Ascension The gellen, brunson move
the Trading For Karl, anthony towns these were all smart

(24:44):
moves Orchestrated By, leon rose the front office.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
General MANAGER and.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I agree he's on the air with us weekdays.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Right Here. Colin cowhard coward had a.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Great take, He, said hey you know building, the sphere
which is owned BY the msg group Owned. By dolan
building fear took a lot, of attention took a lot.
Of organization That's where dolan's mind was at building. The
sphere and now That the knicks are good and the sphere,
is built he's turned, his direction turned his eyes back

(25:17):
to his number, one toy.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
And that's why things are falling.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Apart again it truly is an owner who wants to
get his fingers in, the pie wants to start messing around.
With things that is Why the knicks are going back
to and reverting back to what we knew of them
in the mid, twenty tens in teams that were winning
twenty games, a year giving out massive contracts the guys
who didn't. Deserve it it's back to having a. Meddlesim owner

(25:42):
and that's why in, professional sports having a great star player,
Is important having a good general managers. Is important having
a good head coach who's on the same page as
those two other groups. Is important having an owner who
can just let everybody else do their job and isn't
meddling in the business of of running a team might

(26:02):
be the most important thing. In sports it might be
the most. Underrated thing the best teams in professional sports
have owners who are willing to let other people do.
Their job When the patriots were winning year after year after,
We Year robert kraft wasn't coming down Talking To, Bill
belichick hey we should draft this tight end in the,

(26:22):
Second round hey we need to. Do this, and no
he Was letting bill do, His job So let tom do.
His job craft. Sat Back.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
The Golden.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
State warriors the reason that they were able to win
as much as they did is they had an owner
Who Let steve kerr run the team like it needed to.
Be run He Let steph Curry And klay Thompson And
draymond green do what they needed. To do willing to
pay Fines for draymond kind of being a little bit
over off the, reservation sometimes willing to pay, those fines

(26:53):
willing to pay the luxury tax to go get a
Guy Like, kevin durant go bring put a team around
that core that that's the most. Important Thing and dolan's
not willing to. Do that he's not willing to go
and go into, his pocket pay or luxury tax and
try to Make the knicks as good as. They are
that is what the problem. Currently is the idea to
Go Get jason kid in the. First, PLACE again i

(27:13):
don't agree. WITH it i don't think that he's the
coach that is necessarily built to brand a Title To.
New york but To fire thibadeau in the first place
and not have a, backup plan not have any sort
of idea where you want to go from here is
even more of an atrocious spot to. Be in and
the other two coaches we heard seams Talk About emai

(27:36):
Adoku and Chris Finch imo odoku ruined his Chances, in
boston potentially cost HIMSELF an nba championship with that core
that he had for all of the off the court
issues he was having behind THE scenes hr violations that.
Were occurring he costs himself, a championship Goes to houston
and is trying to build that young roster into a
potential title. Contending team they're copycatting a lot Of What

(27:59):
oklahoma city is. Currently, doing hey do we have a
ball dominant star who can go get it to?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
The?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Rim yes do we have a guy down low who
can vaness, his way good, shot blocker good low. Post,
Presence yes they're just rebuilding the blueprint that is already
Working In oklahoma City And emo doku is the type
of coach with a young team that can bring everybody
together and make. Them, work okay he's a good Coach.

(28:25):
For houston is he the coach that you Need In?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
New york.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Probably not is he the coach that's going to get
the best Out Of Karl? Anthony towns tell him to
stop fouling when he already has three fouls laid in the,
Third quarter it. Probably not see the guy who's going
to unlock. Another Level To, jalen brunson it. Probably not
but to make that phone call By the knicks, to,
say hey can we talk to your head coach is

(28:50):
even more of an insane spot to, be in which
makes me Think that dolan got Rid Of tom thibodeau
without actually thinking this whole. Thing Through And CHRIS finch
I Like. CHRIS finch I Think chris finch has done
a great Job With anthony edwards in the development.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Up there he reminds me a Lot Of.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Doug collins maybe he's not going to be the head
coach who wins the six titles with, his superstar but
maybe he's the guy who Turns out superstar into the
guy that can go win. Six Titles maybe minnesota still,
Needs There, Phil, jackson yeah maybe. IT'S finish i don't think,
it is but let's say it is not having the

(29:26):
wherewithal Of the knicks, to, say hey is a guy
who just went To Two western covers finals going to
want to jump ship and come To The. Big apple
not having that thought in, your head that's. A Problem
the knicks are gonna do What the knicks are. Gonna
do they're gonna be back where, they started a. Middling team,
all right when we, come back our, Number Two aaron

(29:48):
rodgers got married over, His break but is he married
to the Game new steelers quarterback we'll talk. About Next
Craig white show. Rolls on hour number two Continues On
SPORTS radio am Thirteen Hundred The zone on, The Show
andrews zim will hanging out with you This Hump Day
happy wednesday Edition Of The. CORREGWAY show a lot to

(30:09):
get into in, this HOUR Including Nba finals game number
three tonight In The indian pacers defend, home court hold
Off the thunder Or the thunder gonna jump up to
one on them and pretty much call it series at. That,
point now they lost in six To The la lakers

(30:29):
in two THOUSAND and i was trying to do, some
comparison comparing contrast how much or the similarities between this
thunder team And that. Lakers team not a lot, of
SIMILARITIES but i do think that they both have one thing.
In common and we'll talk about. That Next And, michael
parsons is he going to get a? Deal done he's at.

(30:50):
Many camp he talked to the. Media YESTERDAY why i
think that he will get a deal done and why
that is going to Help the cowboys movement.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Going forward but we.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Start Here, aaron rodgers who has been a headache for
the past, two seasons who has been in the number
one media circus in the world In The new york,
media market is Finally.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
In pittsburgh it's.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Finally official he signed, the contract signs down, the line
and he will be the starting quarterback For The pittsburgh
steelers for the twenty twenty. Five season but the thing
that caught a lot of, people's attention because it can't
ever just be a normal Day In aaron, rodgers world
was that he was wearing a ring on his, left
hand on his. Ring finger, and yes you got, that

(31:34):
right he is. Officially MARRIED there a lot's been made.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
About the ring on your, left ring and there sided
bor ring or anything else at wedding.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Ring leaving it's a. Wedding, ring congratulations, GO too i.
Love you it's been a.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
COUPLE months I Like aaron rodgers because he's, very, private
right he keeps everything, to himself and then we later
have to ask him, about it and then he'll make
a big. DEAL it i thought that answer. Was fine, It's,
okay hey when'd you get married a couple? Months ago,
all right we'll.

Speaker 10 (32:04):
Move on.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
It's fine but is he married to? The game the
cliche is there? For it is he married to. The
game THAT'S what i want out of my. Starting Quarterback
The pittsburgh steelers have been, in limbo the worst place
you can be IN. The NFL the nfl is set
up so that teams can compete. For championships if you,
draft well if you use free, agency well you can

(32:25):
compete for a title within three to. FIVE years nfl
fans are spoiled because there is more parody in that
league than any other league on. The planet you can
have a team draft number one overall and a few
seasons later be competing.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
For Titles.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
The steelers have not done that Because the steelers refuse to,
Bottom out they refuse. A tank They Have, mike tomlin
who has never had a losing Season. In pittsburgh they
consistently are a team that has sat between nine and.
Eleven wins and you now get a Quarterback in rogers
who's coming off In the achilles injury two, seasons ago
who last season looked like a shell. Of himself you

(33:08):
now have a starting quarterback who might be the best
option you have had in almost a decade at, That
position which is saying something that goes to show you
the type of talent that they put at the, quarterback
position the most important position. In Sports the steelers have
Neglected Since big ben. Has retired They Put russell wilson,

(33:28):
Out there they Put justin fields, out there and there, were,
flashes sure but it. Wasn't sustainable it wasn't anything that
you could write home about, and, say well we have
this quarterback, under center and they've messed up. Other Quarterbacks
mason rudolph, Hasn't Worked kenny pickett. Didn't work they have
a whole graveyard of quarterbacks who did not Work. In

(33:48):
pittsburgh they're turning Into The. Cleveland browns when it comes
to the, quarterback position you Hope that rogers can be
the guy that comes in and immediately makes. An, impact
yeah and maybe, he does but you're twiddling with. Mediocrity
here the Odds of rogers HAVING an mvp caliber season
like he had his last Seasons In green bay are slim.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Two none what you.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Were hoping for is you're hoping that a guy who's
almost forty years old can show up and compete against
Guys Like, joe burrow Guys Like lamar jackson week in and.
Week out THE Or afc north is the most competitive division,
in sports and is the most competitive division IN the afc,
at least With the ravens And the browns both having.
Incredible defenses With the bengals having a great Offense With,

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JOE Burrow t Higgins And, jamar Chase the steelers are
getting left in the dust at a lot of different.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
POSITION.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Groups tj watt is a very serviceable. Defensive player he's
A future Hall, of famer but he's not the guy
who he is going to completely wreck a game like
a Guy Like miles. Garrett Is, i'm sorry that's just.
The Facts miles garrett is the best defensive player in.
That division So the steelers have the second best. Defensive
player they might have the, best coach but they have

(35:00):
maybe the worst wide. Receiver room the running back room is,
a mess and the quarterback is. A mess but why
does it? Make sense rogers answered. That question why it
makes sense for him to Go?

Speaker 11 (35:10):
To pittsburgh, YOU know i think it Starts With, mike
tomlin And then i've been a fan of his for a.
Long time there's a few iconic franchises IN. THE nfl
i played for one of them for. Eighteen years this
is another one. Of those there's something, special, about obviously.
This area so many great quarterbacks Are.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
From Pittsburgh aaron rodgers ingratiating himself To the. Pittsburgh fans
you give your flowers to, The Dawn. Mike tomlin you
give your flowers to the mafia boss who runs, That Place. Mike,
tomlin congratulations that's the. Right, Answers okay i'll. GET that
i also want to give you a little bit. OF
trivia i went through the. Record books if, You remember

(35:50):
rogers Beat the steelers in This Low super bowl. Win
okay As, A packer i was going through the record
books trying to find other quarterbacks who want to suit
and then went to the team that they beat later in.
THEIR career i can only find one, that ironic same
quarterback also played For The. Pittsburgh Steelers russell wilson is

(36:10):
the only OTHER quarterback i could find who Won A
super bowl as a starting quarterback for a team and
then joined the other team later in. HIS career a
little bit of a staff, for you. ALL right i
don't Agree. WITH rogers i get where he's. Coming from
it's a. Legacy, Brand Yes mike tomlin has been an
incredible coach has entire year or his higher career IN.
The nfl but this makes no sense. To Me the

(36:33):
steelers had a perfect opportunity to try to not bottom
out but. Be competitive Share Put mason rudolph. Under center
try to see what you HAVE With dk Metcalf And.
George pickens but you Move off pickens you Bring. In
rogers you are asking for a nine and. Eight season
you are asking for a season that is going to.

(36:53):
Be mediocre you're gonna have a couple of good wins down.
The stretch you're gonna convince yourself that maybe we have
a shot when it comes. Playoff time but IN, the
afc where there's three teams who are vying for that number,
one spot And, the Chiefs, the bills And, the Ravens
The pittsburgh steelers are, a, distant distant distant option when

(37:16):
you compare them to those other. Three TEAMS and i
would put teams IN The, afc west teams Like, the Broncos,
the raiders And the chargers all ahead Of the steelers.
As well so then, You, think okay there's gonna be
one team who comes out of. That division it's gonna
be the. Division champion and you're trying to convince me
That the ravens are gonna lose To. The Steelers the

(37:37):
ravens who have the defending ARE the mvp of, the
League And, lamar jackson Who Have, derrick henry Who Have.
John harbaugh you're trying to convince me that that team
is taking a step back this season.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
And That The aaron Rodgers led steelers are going to
be the team that.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Jumps them that doesn't make any sense. TO me i
can't wrap my head. Around that so THAT'S why, i
say is your quarterback married to. The Game aaron rodgers,
allegedly married wearing the wedding ring on his. Left hand
are you married to? The Game and i'm gonna. SAY
no I Think aaron rodgers is married to. The drama
he's married to. The lifestyle he's married to all of

(38:14):
the other stuff that comes with being the starting quarterback IN.
The nfl but this marriage between him And the steelers
is not going. To work this is the marriage that
your buddy gets into after college and you say, to,
Yourself yeah i'm gonna have a good time at, the
Wedding but i'm not gonna go all out for that
wedding Gift because i'm not going to get. A receipt
i'm not getting that. Money back this is not going,

(38:36):
to work this marriage Between the Steelers And, aaron Rodgers
because rogers is over. The hill his best years are
way behind Him and achilles' injury. Behind Him mike tomlin's
best Years in pittsburgh are. Behind him when the most
important position is the, quarterback position and that organization refuses
to go out and get somebody trade up, for somebody

(38:58):
make a move to go get a backup quarterback who
has shown promise in.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
The preseason.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
You are in, football limbo the worst place to be
if you ARE an, nfl team and that's Where the,
steelers are and it's not gonna Help With aaron rodgers
running things. As Well, all right we got a lot
to talk about IN. THE nba i do want to,
mention though that the thirteen players were announced who are
going to get green room invites FOR The, nba draft

(39:25):
one of those Players Being. Trey Johnson and i'm Excited For.
Trey johnson he had a GOOD Season sec freshman Of
the year Season. At texas even Though the, longhorns struggled
they get into the first four in game Lose. To
Xavier trey johnson's solo Career at texas was, very good.
VERY exciting i have been doing a lot OF the

(39:46):
nba draft. Prep work we're doing a draft day SHOW
on wai and TICKETS sem a Sixty In. San antonio
i've been watching a ton of film on those top,
ten Picks And trey johnson's name consistently comes up when
we talk about some of the best guards in this,
year's Draft so i'm very excited for him to get.
The invite i'm curious though he is a, ball dominant good.

(40:07):
Scoring player but all of those other, intangible things, the passing,
the leadership those are going to be questions that teams
are going to be asking. Him about he got to
ask those questions at, the combine had, good answers, Saying,
like hey, you know, in practice you're practicing. On ball
you're not practicing off ball because most of the time
you're doing. Individual DRILLS but i can play. Off ball

(40:28):
hey underrated my, paske ability my, court vision my ability
to be a leader in the, locker room all things
that if you're not in that locker room, with him you.
Wouldn't Know so i'm Excited For. Trey johnson we'll talk
about those other twelve guys who got named, as well
who are going to be at the, green room and
where we think some of those players will end up.
Getting drafted all that coming, Up next but first it's
GONNA Be nba Finals preview game. Three tonight Can the

(40:52):
pacers hold on in front of their? Home crowd all
coming up Next To The Craig Way Show SPORTS, radio
am Thirteen Hundred Zone SPORTS. Radio am i'm thirteen Hundred
The zone andrews and we'll hanging out with you. This
afternoon hopefully you guys are. Staying cool we have our
entire playlist, set, up right we try to figure, out,
okay hey, you know we want this vibe or, that
vibe and sometimes songs get slipped in there and you, go,

(41:14):
like okay wait was that? Jingle BELLS was i hearing
some bells going on in the? Background there what's? Going
on so it happens when you have the entire library
of music in front.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Of you.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
All right SO The Nba finals game number three happens
to night seven thirty pm Tip. From indiana so we
are at the point now one to, one series and
everybody is saying That the pacers are exactly where they need,
to BE Including nba Hall of famer And Champion.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Paul pierce When the pacers got on that plane last
night After losing bout sixteen and, they landed they go to,
practice today, they like we, did, it guys we did.
Our job we got we went in okc or we.
Stole one that was the message, all along Because when
i've been in on teams and were going to roll for,
any rounds, were like we gotta. Get one we got

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so mission a confidence they.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Feeling good so that is the mindset of A team
i think that is just trying to hold on keep
their heads. Above water you think About how game number
one went For. The pacers it came down to a
game Winner By. Tyres, halliburn now he's played incredible this entire.
Playoff series he's played great this. Entire season he was
voted the most overrated player by his LEAGUE mates nba.

(42:31):
Anonymous vote he was voted most overrated before. The playoffs
so for him to come out and do what he
has done to this point has been. Very impressive but
if you said to me That the pacers were the
team that Won The eastern conference before, THE season.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I would have rolled my eyes.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
At you if you Said the pacers were the team
that was going to Win The eastern conference when the,
PLAYOFFS began i would have rolled my eyes. At you
and every single series to THIS point i have Bet.
Against indiana i've said that this is not the type
of team that can WIN an.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Nba championship And in.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Game, number one they were closed, the gap they had
a great run in the fourth quarter and it led
To a haliburton. Game winner But in game, number two
it was a lot Similar to game. Number one the
only difference Was the thunder really. Clamped up they did
not allow that second. Half run they allowed a few
double digit, scoring runs but for the, most part the

(43:26):
coaching staff and the players For the thunder did Not
allow indiana to get back into. The game they led
by twenty three points at one Point, the thunder and
they held that lead throughout the most throughout. The game
you go down the list and you look at the last,
two games the time, of leading the time That the
thunder have led is ninety one minutes of the last.

(43:47):
Two games that. Is astronomical that is undeniable that there's
one team here that is much more ready, to go
much more locked in and ready to play than. THE
other i don't think that there's any sort of doubt
when you have one team that's won sixty, eight games
is being talked about as a potential all time team

(44:09):
with an all time PLAYER in sga versus The Upstar. Indiana,
PACERS now i said before the series BEGAN that i
Thought the thunder were going to Roll through indiana now
that this was gonna be a four. Game sweep game
number one obviously blew that up in a puff of
smoke game, winning shot that prediction goes out.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
The Window but i've said, this SERIES.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
This, nba finals everybody was complaining about, the oh the
ratings are gonna, be awful two small. Market teams the
ratings aren't going to be bad for these two games
or for these the series because it's two small. Market
teams we've seen small market teams be competitive and. Win
games i'm not Thinking that detroit's the largest market in
the world And the spurs are by no means a.

(44:52):
Giant market the two thousand and five seven game series
was a very, entertaining series and the ratings. Reflected it
this series is not going to. Be entertaining we've seen
for the, most part Outside of game, number one Where
the pacers went on a nice run and win, The
game game number two it was all thunder and in game,
number three If the pacers show up the way they

(45:14):
Did in game Two In, oklahoma city it's gonna be
the same type.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Of story it's gonna be the.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Same thing that Is why i'm so when we, talk
ratings which don't matter a ton. To me to be
completely honest, WITH you i never understood WHEN every nba
fan has turned INTO a, TV executive i don't. Get
that but when we, talk ratings if we want to have,
that conversation the ratings are going to reflect one team

(45:41):
being dominating over the. Other one and that's Why When
paul pierce Says the pacers have them exactly where they,
WANT them i don't necessarily think that that's the truth
because the other part. OF it i have seen series
where one team wins and the next, team win and back,
and forth and we go to.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Seven games this is not that type. Of series.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
To me the last time we had a series that
was hyper competitive where it was seven games and one
team won next was twenty thirteen when It was Heat
and spurs and it Was The Big three heat coming off,
a championship and it Was The santai spurs on their
last little bit of a run in their Dynasty and
Miami wins game one, at home And then spurs come

(46:22):
back and we, game two.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
And then we Go to santai's back.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
And forth that series had some of the, biggest names
had some of the, biggest Stars had Hall, of Famers The. Thunder,
SQUAD yeah i like SGA's the mvp in Chats. From
Minneapolis so i've watched his career and JDub, is, great
Fine And alice cruiss is, a, champion great but this
does not have the star power that these other. Finals

(46:47):
had and that's the other big part of this is
that if you gave me If A tyres halliburton was
averaging let's say twenty eight to eight, To eight, i'd,
say Yeah the thunder doing a great job limiting him to.
Seventeen points but throughout the playoffs this year he's been
a seventeen point per. Game, scorer yeah he's doing a
good job of not turning the. Ball over he's playing
the point guard position unlike some other point guards we've

(47:08):
seen at. This level I'll La, russell Westbrook but i'm
not really convinced that Anybody's Shutting tyrese. Haliburton down i'm
not convinced That the thunder are doing this masterful defensive
plan ON halliburt i think that's just the type player.
He is he's not somebody that's going to go give
you twenty five or thirty points, per GAME, whereas sga

(47:30):
who averages averaging about thirty points in the, regular season
average about twenty eight twenty five points in. The playoffs
if he's being held to, Seventeen points i'm tapping my
hat To. The pacers but that, hasn't happened and it's
not going, to happen and. That's final the last point
here is That the thunder are too deep of. A
team and this is a problem THAT the nba, has

(47:51):
faced and it's not an. Ironic problem is that the
teams that are winning, these championships whether it Be the
thunder this year when they dismanche the pay and win,
the title or whether it Be the celtics last year
Or the nuggets, year prior the problem with these teams
is that they are so domineering that there's not a

(48:11):
doubt in my mind that they're going to win. The
title LAST time i had any sort of conviction that
maybe one of these teams could win something was in twenty.
Twenty two so we're three years removed now in my
mind of a SUPER Competitive. Nba finals every Year since
i've felt confident coming in that one side is very much, better,

(48:33):
prepared deeper more dominating than the. Other side, and yeah
last year Was The eastern, conference team but it tends
to lean To. The West the west tends to have,
better teams AND that i feel is a bigger issue
and more looming problem is that we GET These nba
finals and whether it be because of health or team
management or roster management, or whatever we are not getting.

(48:55):
Competitive finals we are getting teams like the thunder who
win sixty, eight games WHO, the mvp who are going
to go down in history as one of the best
regular season to finish, the season team beginning of the
season to end of the season TEAMS in.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Nba history where we get.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Those teams Versus a pacers Team that i'm going to
assume tonight that they play well in front of their,
HOME court i still think that, they lose probably by.
Double digits, all right when we. Come Back micah parson's
edge rusher For The. Dallas cowboys he spoke to the
media yesterday hinted at getting a. Deal done Will the
cowboys get a deal done or will they be in
the same spot they were last year with an Unhappy

(49:32):
Superstar all coming, Up Next The Craig wait Show On
SPORTS radio am thirteen.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Hundred zone.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
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defensive player IN, the nfc depending on who you.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Talk to great off season For The.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Dallas cowboys but there's one pop mark once and that
is the Fact that parsons still has a contract extension
up in, the Air looming parsons quarter so of, the
defense he remains without a long. Term deal despite, The
uncertainty parsons has pledged to participate fully in the mini
camps and, training sessions demonstrating a true dedication to the.

(51:20):
Team now he spoke yesterday to reporters talking about his
Conversation With, jerry jones as well as how close they
are to hammering out.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
A deal.

Speaker 12 (51:29):
We were talking about how my off season, has been
The training i've been, putting in and he TOLD me
i looked, Pretty GOOD so i got excited. About that
asked me about THE trip i just, went on and,
YOU know i Was pretty it was a pretty, good
conversation and then obviously just stepping Up in, van later
how much He appreciates i'm here and you, know that,
you know that means a lot.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
To me hopefully to get a deal with them before
you go. To oxtend i'm.

Speaker 12 (51:54):
Pretty hopeful i'm still, you know, hanging TIGHT like i
understand it's up to him and he gives the green line,
and everything so hopefully, something's done you know by. Next
month i'm you avoid getting anxious as this thing touched
to drag ONLOAD that.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
I just keep.

Speaker 12 (52:07):
Putting working, you know at the end of, the, Day
man like, YOU know i still. LOVE football i think
it's still. ABOUT football i understand the business side always
kind of creeps in every couple of years in the,
football WORLD but i just keep it.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
About Football michael parsons is twenty six years old and
he talks like a thirty six year old. Very good
and this is FUNNY because i wasn't a big Fan
of parsons doing. The podcast it's ironic because we, want
media or we want an athlete to talk to the
media as much. AS possible i Like playing parsons on
the Shows that. I'M on i like to hear what

(52:40):
athletes have. To SAY but i thought that the podcast
stuff went way over. THE line i don't need my
star defensive end telling me what quarterbacks are good. AND
bad i don't want to hear him talk and give game.
Plan away and THAT'S what i thought was happening a
lot of time with. His podcast but he speaks about
this contract like a, savvy vet which is What the

(53:02):
cowboys need him to be. This season it's been a
great offseason For The. Dallas cowboys maybe you don't love
the hiring Of. A schottenheimer maybe you don't love the
fact That the cowboys are running it Back With, dak
prescott but when you consider what they had to do
coming INTO The nfl draft and coming into, this season
and when you have your, divisional Rival The, philadelphi eagles

(53:24):
Winning The, super bowl and that you think to yourself
how far Away the cowboys are from. That goal you
have to make small wins every single step of. The
WAY The nfl draft was a small win For The.
Dallas cowboys getting a deal Done With michael parsons would
be a giant win For. The cowboys listen To Cam,

(53:45):
camra parker who was on, the program not a fan
disillusioned by HIS favorite, nfl TEAM and i can get
where he's. Coming From And dallas cowboy fans who aren't
happy with where this franchise, IS currently i.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
CAN get i can sympathize. With.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
You now i've never claimed to be The biggest cowboy
fan in. The world, in fact the start of the
side of the helmet turns my stomach. Some WEEKENDS but
i can get where you're. Coming from because you want
a competitive team year in and, year out And the
cowboys have found a way to be mediocre year in and,
year out but getting a deal Done for parsons takes
a step in the right direction to shake off the

(54:20):
mediocrity and get back to Where these cowboys want, to
Be Where jerry jones want the program, to be and
what fans where want this program. To be he is
the most important piece on that defensive side of. THE
ball i do think that they are getting closer to
getting a, deal done which would. Be ginormous you consider
where they were last Season With, ceedee lamb whether they

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wanted to franchise tag him or give him. The Extension
dak prescott went through the. Same thing do you franchise
tag him to give them the. Big extension the ONE
critique i Have To jerry jones about this Contract with
PARSONS is i would make the case that he is
Better than Dak And ceedee lamb at. His position parsons
is one of the premier, edge rushers and IN, the

(55:03):
nfl outside, of quarterback edge rusher is the most important
position if either throwing touchdowns as a quarterback or preventing
touchdowns from a defensive, end Spot and parsons has been
the type of player who in the same CATEGORY. As
tj Watt And. Miles garrett he is a guy who destroys.
Game plans you want to make sure that that guy

(55:23):
never wears a. Different jersey you want to make sure
that guy is paid adequately for. His services if every
single time you go to the, negotiating table If You're
jerry jones and you hard wall and stonewall and drag
your feet and try to wait it out and try
to get a deal done at the, eleventh hour you're
going to end. Up overpaying you saw it Happen With.
Dak prescott you see it happening With. Cde, Lamb potentially

(55:46):
i'm not The Biggest cede. Lamb guy i'll. BE honest
i thought that there were some times that he looked
more like a wide receiver two than a wide. Receiver
one the numbers, disprove THAT but i say that eye
test tells ME everything i need. To, know parsons he
is a number one type. Of player he is a
number one guy on. Your defense you have to make
sure that he is. Paid ADEQUATELY so i hope that

(56:08):
they're getting closer to. A deal i Don't want jerry
every single time that a contract like this comes up
to wait till the last minute to get the, job
done to get the. Deal done but when you compare
where he is to other guys around, The League trey
henderson seventeen and a half sacks last year For the
cleveland or FOR The, cincinnti bengals he is their most important,
defensive player and they might let, him walk they might trade,

(56:30):
Him away and at Least, in dallas you know that that.
Won't Happen The jerry jones refuses to let guys who
he drafts walk out. That door so that is one
positive to where. Things are, and AGAIN The nfc east. Is,
competitive Yeah the eagles just Won The, super, bowl obviously
But The New york giants still feel like kind of
a Mess. In washington who played FOR The nfc EAST

(56:52):
Or Nfc championship game last year played IN The Nfc
championship game. Last year i'm not completely sold that after
a season, of film the defensive coordinators didn't spend all
offseason trying To Neutralize. Jayden daniels i'm not completely convinced.
Of That dak prescott comes back, From, injury yeah there's
a lot of question marks. Around it yeah he's a little,
bit OLDER but i feel pretty comfortable Saying That dak

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prescott is the type of QUARTERBACK that i can count
on for twenty five to thirty touchdowns, a season for
twenty five three thousand, yard SEASONS that i can count
on him to run. The, Offense look schottenheimer is going
to have an. Uphill, climb obviously this isn't going to
be cupcakes in rainbows by any Means IN. Big D
but i do think That the cowboys are on the

(57:33):
right track to be a competitive team again and trying
to get back into the playoff hunt and being Into
That super. Bowl hunt all of that, being SAID the
nfc is a very. Winnable conference they are miles and
miles away and, MOST teams i, would say are miles
and miles away from Where, The, chiefs Ravens and bills
are IN. The afc, THOSE teams i think every, single

(57:55):
year those fan bases can shock in deep, playoff Run
Potential super, bowl appearing and if You're a, chiefs Fan
A super bowl run. And win but for the rest,
of us the rest OF, the nfc it's every other
year that there's a team that gets in there from.
Our conference why Not The dallas cowboys you just got
to win a couple games in the, regular season you go.
INTO wildcard i feel pretty comfortable going INTO The Nfc

(58:17):
south stadium come. PLAYOFF time i don't Know why cowboys
fans are so convinced that this, is over that this
is a. Wash SEASON do i love the head? Coaching,
higher no they could have done a little. Bit better
mike McCarthy wasn't an inspiring, head Coach but schottenheimer is
even less of that when you consider where they were hiring.

(58:37):
From within if you didn't like the, coaching staff why
hiring from within doesn't. MAKE sense i understand the hesitation
and the holding off any sort of expectations for the
season because.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Of that.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Totally UNDERSTANDABLE but i would say that if you are, already,
dreary gloomy woe is Me, in, june brother you have
a long year ahead ahead of you got six more months,
of that? All right when we, come back we will
wrap up our number Two And College game day is
sending a legend off the. Right way we'll tell you
who it. Is Next SPORTS radio am Thirteen, Hundred Zone

(59:12):
SPORTS radio am Thirteen Hundred the zone wrapping up our
number two Of The Craigway Show andrew zim will hang
it out with You. This wednesday hopefully you guys are. Staying,
cool boy, Oh boy i'll tell you the ONE thing
i do.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Not Miss about texas is the.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Summer heat so hopefully you guys have a, weekend plans maybe.
TUBING somewhere i know some of my friends are already
hitting me up, About, like hey we Going To new
Bronels Or. San marcus where are we tubing? This Weekend
father's day weekend? As well by, the, way GUYS just
fyi if you haven't already Gotten Your father's, DAY cards i.
Got mine we're going to go. THERE now i just

(59:49):
need to make sure that everybody signs, it, Correctly. Right
okay College game day it is a staple of the college,
football Season And lee corso has been a staple of
all of lives for the better part of almost twenty,
years now and it was announced earlier this year that
he is stepping Away From College game day and retiring from,

(01:00:10):
the set but not until he has one more rodeo,
in it one more trip and was announced yesterday where
it will be welcome to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Hold up i'll tell you.

Speaker 13 (01:00:21):
WHAT thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I think they'll never be anyone else like it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
So bad give me, That Thing, Air.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Coach you're an icon.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
On the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Fifth side then you opened.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Your arms you have briefly changed, the sport changed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
The Business what lee has done for the sport of.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
College football he created Song Before dad jared's in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
The park something he's taught us from the.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Very beginning, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Entertainment sweetheart football is. Our Vehicle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Lee Corso And College game day Coming, To Columbus ohio August.
Thirtieth saturday it is the season opener Between the Texas
long horns And The Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
State buckeyes and it doesn't get better. THAN that, I
knew i.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
SHOULD say i thought that there was going to be
a Chance That lee Corso And College game day were
coming to arguably the biggest game of, The year week.
Number ONE and I know i, say that but let's.
Be honest the defending national champions Versus The. Texas longhorns
these are two of the premium programs in. The sport
if you want to call them, blue bloods. THAT'S fine

(01:01:37):
i would call them gold bloods because that's all that
runs through these. Two programs they are the lifeblood when
it comes to, college football and the fan Bases For
ohio State and texas are second, to none, All right
so you knew that this was going to be the
game that everybody. Had circled you knew that they were
going to have to do the sendoff the. Right way and,
what's interesting, Of Course, Reese, Davis desmin, Howard McAfee, Nick Saban,

(01:02:00):
kurk Herbstiakin the corso are all going to, be there
and it does feel like a turning of, a page
a chapter ending for college. GAME day i thought that
the Addition Of nick saban. WAS perfect i liked what
he brought to the game, last year and especially now
with the, house settlement now that there's going to be
more nil, money involved you're gonna have to have a

(01:02:23):
Coach like saban who's still the old, ball coach who's
still gonna give you the way the things used to
be and how the things should be in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
The World. NICK saban i.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
LIKE that i know a lot of people roll their
eyes back in my day type, of TALK but i
like having a Guy Like nick saban who's won national
championships the old way WITH the ap and then the
new way with the college football playoffs and now the
ultra new way the world that we live in today
where it is kind of LIKE. Mini nfl, but me
like most, OF you i imagine we're thinking, to themselves How

(01:02:55):
does texas do when college game day? Is around what
is the all time recorded For the longhorns during the
college game?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Day Era When lee corso? Is there how does? The
LongRun how does the long runs?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Do well they're ten and seven when college game day,
is pressed and they're five, and two while when the
Games in austin three, and three when they go To
The red river Showdown, in dallas when they're on, the
Road the longhorns are doing a pretty good job four
and two in matchups on, the road including Wins Against,
Ohio state, New five alabama in twenty, twenty three and

(01:03:26):
then of Course The national CHAMPIONSHIP. Against usc all of
those are counted as wins when college game day. Is
available the only Two Losses texas tech in two thousand
and eight and the two thousand And Nine national Championship.
Against alabama longhorns are on the Road. In columbus it's
going to, be electric it's going to, be exciting and
it's a perfect way To Send lee corso off into. The,

(01:03:50):
sunset now the ONE thing i will say his first
helmet that he ever, put on in the FIRST headgear
i should say he ever put on. Was brutus will
he do that again When the longhorns come? To town
will he put On the ohio STATE head i think
that most of us would probably lean, towards yes just
to kind of close, the chapter to make the book.
And finish but if you told me Today on june

(01:04:14):
eleventh That the longhorns Going to columbus, and win wouldn't,
be shocked would not. Be surprised i've Loved everything i'm
hearing out of The. Forty acres i'm keeping up with
How arch manning. IS developing i saw a lot, of
gibberish a lot of. CONJECTURE online I think i want
to say it was A former georgia quarterback who was

(01:04:35):
kind of spouting off on a podcast about If arch
manning is really the? Real deal how did he not
Beat Out queen ewers a seventh round. Draft, pick WELL
obviously i think It Was. AARON murray i want, to
say was the guy who was putting those takes, out
there awful take first and foremost. Second off when the
times that We saw arch throughout, the season whether it
be him Starting The mississippi state game or in the

(01:04:57):
playoffs when he got, limited snaps we saw growth and
development throughout. THE season i don't imagine that anybody is
unhappy With Where arch manning is right now in his
development as the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
For the University.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Of texas, in fact if you consider the fact that
he sat, a year was able to Sit, behind quinn
he's coming in with more experience and more time to
learn the position than most other quarterbacks that were going
to be taking over legacy brands taking over blue. Blood
programs if you told Me That arch manning Was The
heisman trophy winner at the end of, THE season i

(01:05:32):
wouldn't be shocked put it, that WAY and i Think
the University of texas is going to continue to be
on the path that they are on, right now which
is consistently In The college. Fable, playoffs now WINNING the
sec this year will be. A challenge you go TO
the sec championship, last year you come up Short. To
georgia going back into, this year coming out of last

(01:05:54):
season where you go to the semi, final again you
feel good about where this program is currently And in
week One Against, ohio state there's going to be a lot.
Of talk there's gonna be a lot of expectation put on.
The program there's gonna be a, lot, of hey if
they lose, this game where does the season go? From
here type of analyzation. Of IT and i would say

(01:06:17):
this because of the college ball, playoff expansion because now
that we have, twelve teams losing in week number one
is not necessarily a death sentence like it was, years
prior which means every single team should be having these
type of games on, their schedule whether It be michigan
taking on a Team like Auburn, or florida or a
TEAM like usc going out and getting a Team like

(01:06:39):
clemson on. The schedule this should be the games that
college football fans and alumni more importantly want to see their.
Teams in SO when i see REPORTS that usc is
trying to get out of their Deal With notre dame
that they don't want to Play the irish anymore because
they're In The big Ten And notre dame, IS independent i.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Roll my eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
At that we like to have these premiere MUST see.
Tv games that's what the sport lives and dies ON
and i. Love it as a fan and as, an
alumni you should be wanting to see your program going
and taking on the. Big dogs you should want to
see your program as we move away from regional conferences
scheduling teams who are premiere in that. NEXT, LEVEL, Usc,

(01:07:20):
Ucla oregon washington should be looking AT the acc trying
to add some teams in their non conference schedule to
make it, more exciting to make it more entertaining for those.
FAN bases i wouldn't Mind seeing Texas And arizona, state
again to be, completely honest because sometime down the road
a big TWELVE an, SEC matchup i wouldn't necessarily, Mind
that but the Way the arizona has been building, the

(01:07:41):
program the way that that playoff game went, LAST year
i would not mind seeing these two teams get back
into the octagon and see what they.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Could, Do okay i'd.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Be on completely frank, With you but when you have
TEAMS like usc who are running Away From, notre dame that's.
Not cool you don't want to. See that that's a,
build rivalry that's a centuries. LONG rivalry i want to
See the longhorns face off teams against Teams Like, ohio
state if for no other reason besides the entertainment part,
of IT that i know a lot of US or

(01:08:10):
i know a Lot Of ohio state fans in, my
life and it's much. More fun it's much more fun
when you can have bragging rights over. Those teams it's
much more FUN when i come into the WORKPLACE and
i have bragging rights over somebody who Went To. Ohio state,
that's really at the end of, the DAY what, i
want bragging rights in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
My office.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
All right when we, come back thirteen invitees to the
green room FOR The nba draft in the next. Couple
weeks june twenty fifth IS The. Nba Draft trey johnson
one of, those players so we'll talk. About that who else?
Got invited up next our three Of The. Creigways show
we roll into It Next SPORTS radio am thirteen Hundred

(01:08:51):
with zone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Our number three Of The.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Cregway show as we roll on on a Hump, day
wednesday and thank you for. Joining us We Have eric
ruby coming up at about let thirty five minutes here
talking to us about the, potential rumors well THE rumors
i should Say About kevin durant potentially Leaving The phoenix
suns heading maybe, out east going To The San, Antoni

(01:09:15):
Spurs houston rockets And so timbrels all reported to ly Interested.
In durant and all those teams have something That the suns,
don't have and. That's stability Houston, IMEI doku i like
the ownership group. Over There the spurs Are, the spurs
And the Timbrels Have ambi Edwards And, chris finch Stability

(01:09:40):
To Western conference.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Finals.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Appearances stability That's What kevin durant needs at thirty six,
years old try to compete. For titles we'll Talk To
erica ruby. About that and Of course game three OF
The nba finals is tonight And The indian pacers are
trying to defend. Home court they feel like they are
in the. Right Spot tyris halliburton feels like they're in the.
Right spot but can they Prevent the thunder from jumping

(01:10:03):
out to a double digit lead? Early on that could
be the deciding factor in. This game but first we
start HERE The. Nba draft the lottery has come, and
gone and we know what the picks will. Look like
we know at least the draft order of the picks will,
look LIKE and i.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Have been, doing deep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Deep research we were doing our draft Coverage on june
twenty Fifth From. San antonio As the spurs are have
the second pick in, the draft we'll be curious to
see where they end. Up going but the players invited
thirteen players invited TO The nba draft into the. Green room,
Of Course cooper flag the expected projected number one overall

(01:10:45):
pick up, A duke he was the number one. Player
invited of course he got. Invited yesterday the Other Players,
Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey, Carter Bryant, derek Queen And trey
johnson to name. A Few trey johnson has been on
my mind Lately as i've been doing all this draft,
prep Research as i've been looking into figuring out who

(01:11:08):
potentially will be those players picked, early on and he
has stood out time and. Time again he reminds me.
A lot and after washing him play At the University
of texas where he was picked to be the number
one guy who was he was selected and kind of
put into the position to be the guy that was
going to Lead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
The longhorns they.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Get to a appearance in the first Four In march
madness and a VERY difficult, sec conference and he PLAYED
Excellent sec freshman Of, the year and he was able
to win games, and overtime and that he had a lot.
Of positives but EVERY time i watched him, THE season
i thought, to myself is this the type of guy

(01:11:49):
THAT if i was drafting the top TEN that i want? To,
pick well, consensus wise whether IT, Be, cbs Tankathon, THE,
ringer espn he is consensus top. Six, Hit, okay well
that makes. Me excited he also spoke AT The nba
combine a couple of weeks ago about some of the
things that he's been.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Working on he got asked about his.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Shooting prowess thought he had a pretty, good answer, Thank
me more of a just.

Speaker 10 (01:12:13):
A mental thing and just being able to do the
same thing over.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
And over.

Speaker 10 (01:12:16):
FOR sure i think that's really all.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
It is guys know how to.

Speaker 10 (01:12:19):
Make shots but if you can do the same thing
mentally over and over to make, THE shot i find
that's really all it is.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
To it you have all the end to shoot off,
The dribble, so well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
That's something you gotta, work on he says he got to.
Work on gotta work. On, that well it's not easy to.
Do obviously the other interesting part is when he was
At the University, of texas his usage rate was one
of the highest in. The country Meeting the University of
Texas And, roddy terry the former, head coach liked to
run their Offense Through. Trey johnson they like to have
the ball in, his hand which gave him the reputation

(01:12:48):
of being an on. Ball score you want to have
a guy if you're drafting in the top ten that
can lead your team in scoring but also can fit into.
Your OFFENSE if i, draft You if I'm The, washington
wizards can you Play Alongside? Jordan poole he got to ask,
the question is you better on ball or? Off ball
Either doesn't either.

Speaker 10 (01:13:07):
Really, doesn't matter just because when you're in the gym
by yourself working out nobody there really isn't nobody passing
you the balls to be playing off the ball in,
The workout so most workouts are you on, The ball
so that's naturally what you're most Comfortable to but if
somebody is creating an advantage and then giving me the
ball with the advantage already starting as, A scorer i
feel like that would be easier.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
For, anybody yeah that. MAKES sense i agree with what. He's,
saying Hey when i'm in practice and you're seeing these
clips of me, Working out i'm going to have the
ball in. My hand it makes life a little. Bit
easier but being an off ball score. Is important THE
way i always compare it TO is i compare it
to the way that a Guy Like lou, will plays
which is, small guard able to run the offense off,

(01:13:47):
the bench does a good, job scoring versus the way
that a Guy Like klay. Thompson plays he does not
necessarily need to have the ball in his hands to
be running. The offense you can have him as an off.
Ball guy you could run plays for him and you
can set. Them Up Can trey johnson run an off
ball offense type? OF system i would like to. Think
yes he got asked as well. About it what's the

(01:14:09):
most underrated part of? HIS game i think like.

Speaker 10 (01:14:11):
My passion my passion, for sure because me being able,
to score that's gonna put the defense out, of position
and also that just makes it easier for me to see.
The reeds if you're out, of position then you're leaving from,
some area so. Somebody's open.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Andrews sim will hanging out with you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
This afternoon SO finally i Heard From trey johnson talking
about the draft lottery and watching the lottery and seeing
how those picks, rolled Out with dallas at, Number One
san antonio, Number two, Philadelphia three charlotte, At four, utah
Five and washington at six and again projected top six
pick in this. Year's draft what do you what did

(01:14:50):
you see during the?

Speaker 10 (01:14:51):
Draft lottery it was It was it was amazing actually
just being a Kid from dallas watching them get.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
Number one that's good.

Speaker 9 (01:14:58):
For them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
What have the interviews with teams been like?

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
So far that has.

Speaker 10 (01:15:04):
Been good it's most definitely. Been good it's been a,
great experience not especially not knowing what's what to. Come
into we want whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
The team, you know if you end up to select,
the league what do you want.

Speaker 6 (01:15:13):
The fans that team?

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
To know what about the missing person who they're.

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
Getting zation i'm gonna try to be a, winning winner
anything to help do in the way, of winning.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
A winning type of, basketball player which is what we'd like.
To hear now when you go through the player Comps
for Guyle Like trey johnson six to sixth guard Out,
Of Texas tyler Hero And ray allen are the two
the bottom of the floor and the ceiling. For Him
tyler Hero six man Of, the year plays a very
interesting Role, in miami a team that is. Rebuilding currently

(01:15:44):
but do you want a Guy Like tyler hero at the?

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Six?

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Pick maybe. Maybe Not ray, allen though on the, other
hand one of the best SHOOTERS in, nba history and
if you remember the way he Played in seattle And,
in milwaukee he was a guy who could get up
and down the floor and was a jump out the
gym type. Of Guy trey johnson does not necessarily give
me those type of that type. Of athleticism what he

(01:16:10):
reminds me the most of is a guy who can
get to, the rim a, scoring guard somebody THAT if,
i CAN if i need, A bucket i can get
a bucket.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
WITH him i like Him To.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
LOU will i think he has a very much of,
a larger bigger Body lou will type. Of Guy lou
will later in his career was a very good passer,
as Well And trey johnson already saying underrated part of
his game is his. Passing ABILITY so i like that.
A lot but when you think about those teams in the.
Top Six dylan harper is essentially the consensus, number two

(01:16:40):
could re fly the consensus number. One pick things start.
Getting shaky philadelphia already guard Driven With tyrese Maxi and.
JERY McCain i don't see him. Going there Charlotte With
LaMelo ball i would be excited. FOR that i don't
know if that necessarily works. With him And Then utah Jazz.
And washington these are. Two, organizations utah on the, other

(01:17:00):
hand feeling good where they are kind of building their
building their team up through the Draft With danny ainge running,
that System versus Washington With. JORDAN poole i don't necessarily
love the way that things have been kind of Developing.
In washington and this is where koc Goes From. YAHOO'S
sports i thought this take was very interesting when he

(01:17:22):
talks about where a Guy Like trey johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Could go i'm very much split with him because on,
one hand, it's, LIKE well i could see him playing For.
THE pacers i could see him as part of, that
offense and maybe he grows and becomes this guy who
it feels empowered on defense and uses his traits to
become a competent defender on top of being able to

(01:17:45):
play with motion and play. With speed but on the,
other hand, it's, like well what if he falls into
a bad situation and like what if He's in washington
and he's playing Next To, jordan POOLE don't i don't
know if he's going to learn some great habits over
the long to become the player that he needs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
To be when you think ABOUT the, nba draft the
most important thing to remember is that where you get,
drafted matters whether you be a lottery pick going to
a Team like philadelphia or a Team. Like washington the
place that these young guys go can ultimately develop and
turn them into the player that they will become and

(01:18:22):
the idea that fans have. About them you Go, to washington.
You struggle you might not get another shot on another
team to be That, dominating, bowl dominating driving offensive. Type
player so we'll see how that Goes For.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Tray.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Johnson AGAIN an nba draft coming up in the next
couple of weeks to twenty fifth round. Number One trey
johnson will be there in the green room all right
when we. COME Back Nba finals game number three tonight
will preview for you Next On Sports radio am, Thirteen
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Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Of Fame Broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
SPORTS radio am Thirteen Hundred The zone andrews them will
hanging out with. YOU today i hope things are. Going
good coming, Up Next eric ruby From a phoenix to
give us a little bit of insight on the Rumors
Of kevin durant's potential Trade San anturia, Spurs Linked uston.
Rockets linked so we will give you the latest on
that and What does suns fans want? In RETURN which

(01:19:21):
i always find very interesting because you have all the
mock drafts and you see the mock trade the, trade
machines and everybody always tries to trade the fifteenth and
sixteenth guy, on rosters two, way players, cash consideration maybe
future picks down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
The road everybody's always trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Trade those and you got to think the team that you're, trading,
with well they want something of value in return back
if we're Giving Up, kevin, Durant RIGHT so i want
to Know what suns Fans and sons media are wanting.
In return we'll see who they're asking for. Up NEXT
But Nba finals game number, three tonight it is a
Thunder and Pacers and i've been banging. The drum it's

(01:20:03):
a one to, one series but it feels like it's
a one to one series thanks to a. LUCKY shot
i have A Big tyres saliburton fan when EVERY year
i do a ranking of the best players IN, the
nba at least my, personal rankings my personal book on
who's good and, who's NOT and i usually do a top. Fifty,
list okay and coming into, the playoffs he was voted

(01:20:25):
the most overrated player by his. League mates BY the,
nba players they said he was the most, overrated PLAYER and, i,
SAID well i don't know if that's. NECESSARILY true i
had him, at eleventh and he's played like the eleventh
best player in. The world he's doing a, great job.
Magnificent JOB but i will say some of these game,
winning jumpers some of, THESE shots i think that a

(01:20:48):
lot of teams open the door for themselves to, lose
games not necessarily If the pacers are going out there in.
Winning games so they win game number one and they
had to come back from down fifteen sixteen, seventeen points
and then game, number two they were down by twenty
three points at, one point ended up losing, by, sixteen one,
twenty three one. Oh seven so in game, number three
when you're playing at, your place how do you defend your? Home,

(01:21:11):
Court Now paul pierce has said it maybe the best
and maybe. The loudest the former champion made a point
saying that he thinks That the pacers Have the thunder
right where they.

Speaker 7 (01:21:21):
Won him When the pacers got on that plane last
night after losing by sixteen and, they landed they go to,
practice today, they like we, did, it guys we did.
Our job we got we WENT in okc and we.
Stole one that was the message, all along Because when
i've been in on teams and we going to roll for,
Any rounds, we're like we gotta. Get one we got so.

(01:21:41):
Mission accomplished they. Feeling good they did.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Their job they won one Game In, oklahoma city even
though it came on a game. WINNING jumper i WOULD
say i might feel Similarly To paul pierce If the
thunder had choked away game, number, one right or If
the pacers, let's say came out and beat them by
double digits and looked like a. Domineering team that's not
NECESSARILY how i feel coming into game. Number three it

(01:22:05):
feels Like. The thunder in, game one we're a little
bit on, their heels didn't hold the lead the way
that they, needed to and the game number two they.
Corrected that so in, game three in the chess match
that IS The, nba finals IN The, nba playoffs who
is going to be that chess piece that? Moves Now in,
Game two Siakam and halliburton both had seventeen and. FIFTEEN
points i need both those guys to step up and be.

(01:22:27):
DOMINEERING scores i need those guys to go out and
get the. Job done we're talking twenty points per game
Because the thunder have multiple guys who can give you.
Twenty points it Might Be chet, holmgren tonight it Could,
be sga it Might Be oscar russo off the. Bench
again but they have the ability to go deep into
their bag and, find scores Whereas the pacers. Do not

(01:22:48):
they need Guys Like pascal Siakam And tyres aliburtn to
step up in. These Finals And, miles turner who has
played the most games In a pacers uniform on, this
roster who has done a very good job to, this
point he needs to step up. As well if you
want To win. Game three it's going to come down
to the ability Of the pacers to dominate the boards

(01:23:10):
and to try to Slow Down oklahoma city going into game.
Number three they need to get home. Court back you
have to defend your. Home COURT and i will, say
this coming into, THE series i had this as a four.
GAME sweep i thought That the thunder were a much.
BETTER team i think that they are still the. Deeper
team they HAVE the mvp on. Their roster this felt
like a let's turn the, lights on turn. Lights off

(01:23:33):
it doesn't matter that there's no trophy on. The court
there won't be enough games for you to. Even, care
Instead the Pacers get, Game ONE but i still think
that the Five game gentlemen sweep is very much in
the realm. Of Possibility tyres saliburn spoke though about How
the thunder have been, defending HIM which i think gives
a little bit of an insight on what the star

(01:23:55):
For the pacers is going through as he Comes into
game number.

Speaker 8 (01:23:58):
Three, TONIGHT yeah i feel like at the point, of attack,
you know they got more more guys than you know
most teams IN the nba that are. High level at
the point, of attack you know they're really connected on the,
defensive END and i feel like they mix up coverages
THEY they i Think coach dagnol isn't afraid to just
kind of do things on, the fly.

Speaker 6 (01:24:19):
You know he he doesn't do everything that's like.

Speaker 8 (01:24:22):
Very traditional he will, you know if you're trying to
get a, thirty three he'll, come double like just out.

Speaker 6 (01:24:27):
Of nowhere you. Know that then they've really done that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
All YEAR so i find it interesting too that you
get that mindset from the point guard when there's so
many different teams and so many different schemes that you
can throw at a guy. The tires haliburton's talking about
the length and the depth of the thunder have have
on this roster and how that is kind of causing
them a little bit. Of issue also should be noted

(01:24:50):
That after, Game two halliburton walking with a. Noticeable, limp
now according, to reports he'll be fine for, tonight's game
but you have to imagine as well as the playoffs
of continue to grind down on, some guys this could
be one of those lingering injuries That if halliburton isn't
at least at eighty, five percent then maybe that could
be the thing that knocks these, pacers off they go

(01:25:11):
the Way that. Halliburton goes that's kind of been the
way that things have, shaken out at least to the
playoffs to. This point the OTHER thing i would like, to,
mention though he talks about two the double teams that he's,
been Seeing and i've seen a lot of conversation in
the media and amongst fans online about How the thunder
doing this incredible job Of, limiting HALLIBURTON and i haven't

(01:25:32):
really seen That because halliburton is a seventeen points per.
Game guy he's not a guy that goes out and
gives you thirty points. Per game he's not a guy
that's going out in giving You These, Lebron James, michael
Jordan And kobe bryant esque stats in. The playoffs he's
the guy who's gonna give you his seventeen points and his.
Ten assists he's gonna limit, the turnovers he's gonna do
a good job running. Your offense but don't expect him

(01:25:54):
to come out and have this monster.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Scoring GAME.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
That's sga he's the guy that can give you forty
points if he. Needs to caliburn is that type. Of
player THAT'S why i think that when the conversation turns,
to well they've done a great job Of, limiting haliburton
it never really has come down. To that what THE
thunder i have done a great job about is throwing
the double teams out of making to make. Decisions quickly
They've Limited, pascal siakam which has been the story of

(01:26:20):
his entire career post. Twenty nineteen if you REMEMBER That
nba finals When the raptors win their, Only titles siakam
was the number two Guy Behind. Kawhi leonard he was
a guy who was absolutely dicing up and a dominating
option For that. Raptors team and he was. Still young
as he's, gotten older he hasn't developed any sort of,
scoring output and you need him to have that type

(01:26:42):
of scoring output if you want to win these type.
Of series that's what it's going to come down to
tonight in, my mind is That If pascal siakam can
be the type of guy who can go out and
really shook, excuse me really show you a dominating presence
and win you the game at, the boards that is
going to be a major difference maker in. These finals
and according to, him quote it's the biggest game of,

(01:27:03):
the year so he knows what is on the line tonight.
AS well i still say it's going to Be all
thunder in. This game it's been a long time coming
for the City of indiana. As well it's the first
time that they're hosting a finals game in twenty five
years since the Two. Thousand FINALS and i was going
through in, my mind what are the similarities Between The

(01:27:23):
la lakers who won their first championship And The Oklahoma
city thunder who are trying to win their first championship in.
Franchise history what are. The comparisons there aren't A ton
those are two completely different type. Of teams the only
SIMILARITY that i see is that that was a blossoming
DYNASTY in la and we could have potentially have a

(01:27:44):
blossoming Dynasty In. Oklahoma city that is really where THE
comparison i think. Falls APART other nba, News Today, jalen
BRUNSON who i didn't even really realize had any lower.
Body injuries we Knew That jason tatum suffered the. TORN
achilles i didn't Know That jalen brown had to have surgery.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
As.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Well well he had surgery on his. Right knee today
he's reports saying that he won't, be limited that he'll
be okay to go come training. Camp time But, the
celtics after winning the title, last year after having finally
getting over, the hump it's crazy to see how quickly
things have kind of crashed down around that Organization with

(01:28:26):
Jalen j, I'm Sorry jason tatum being done for the
year next year coming off of, torn achilles And Then
jalen brown who's only twenty six years old now having
to figure out coming back off a. Knee surgery also
incredibly expensive contract For the celtics. As well he's also
been rumored to be in the. Trade talks, all right
speaking of, Trade Talks eric ruby From The phoenix suns,

(01:28:48):
up next going to give us a breakdown on what
to expect as the conversation's heat Up Around. Kevin durant
are we going to see a trade by the end
of this week or is it going to be closer
TO The? Nba draft all coming up the next On
The Craigway Show SPORTS radio am Thirteen Hundred, The Zone
Andre the zone and For The phoenix suns Podcast Is
eric ruby talking to Us About kevin durant and the

(01:29:09):
trade rumors surrounding the all. Time great, all right so let's.
START here i have seen. The rumors you've seen. The
rumors how much smoke? Is there and is there? ANY fire.

Speaker 13 (01:29:22):
I feel like there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Of fire it kind of feels like you're at, this
point especially IN. The nba and this Happens With kevin
durant when he was rumored to go To, The Suns
anthony davis And, the lakers where one team always, comes
up and.

Speaker 13 (01:29:36):
Usually it's it's team that's coming up over and over and, over.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
Again and a player wants to, go there it. Usually
happens i'll tell. You this over On the phoenix side,
of things we're Preparing For kevin durant to Be a, Spur.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Really okay so you're going, all in you're Saying At.
SAN antonio, i.

Speaker 13 (01:29:53):
Mean obviously it's not one.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Hundred, percent obviously you had the report earlier today about
five teams plus some wildcard teams. BEING interested i could
See a houston coming in with a with a good offer,
as well Maybe. A Minnesota Apparently new york.

Speaker 13 (01:30:07):
Is out of. The running so it's not one hundred
percent from, my Perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
And i'm not, a reporter, PER se i just, You
know i'm not bringing any, inside information but it just
feels Like san antonio is the perfect combination of a
Team that katie wants to, go to which, is important
a team that has a wide variety of assets That
the suns, could receive, you know and a Team in
santonio that that could be ready to compete a little

(01:30:34):
quicker than maybe their initial timeline would would, have, them
say especially With the deer and. Box trades so just
so many things kind of line up on all aspects
from the player and for. Both teams that makes it
feel Like san antonio is. Becoming inevitable and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
We can talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
THE timeline i think that we've completely shifted now to
almost LIKE an nfl style where if you have a
really good rookie on a, rookie deal you got to go.
All in you got to try to win a title
the same way you would do it with A. Rookie
corts but when you're talking from A feeding sun's point,
of view who are you looking at On the, Spurs
roster because that's always a big thing for fans, going,

(01:31:08):
like WELL well i want this guy and. This guy
this guy is, like well the money, doesn't work so
Who are suns fans circling on?

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
The roster so in order to make the, money work
you're gonna need a combination Of, The, Cell, Sohan, Harrison Parns, Kelton,
johnson right those are kind of your four pieces that
you move around that you can get the salary to
match Up. To katie, Reality Is devin visell is the
number one, asset there and From a, sun's perspective there's

(01:31:34):
just so much overlap With What devin booker brings from
a size. Vantage point from a positional, vantage point, you
Know the cell is a better Defender, than booker but
doesn't really guard a different Position.

Speaker 13 (01:31:46):
Than booker so, FOR me i don't.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Look at This at vicell as SOMEBODY that i want
to be the centerpiece of a trade Package For kevin
durant and that either opens up the avenue of a
finding a third team to Route the cell too in
order to bring a better positional Fit With devin booker
long Term, to phoenix or trying to find a Trade
without vassell With. The, spurs obviously you guys don't want to,

(01:32:11):
Hear this but To foon castle the number, Two pick
i'm not Sure If kevin durant's value would bring such
highly touted young either prospects or potential prospects in terms
of the number two picks Back, To phoenix i'm not
sure if that's Something that phoenix has the leverage to.
Pull off but those are kind of the two holy

(01:32:33):
grails in any, other package fourteen has to be Involved
and vissel has to. Be INVOLVED but i personally don't
Love the cells Fit.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
In, phoenix see and this IS where i am, as
WELL because i saw all the smoke, And, saying okay
well he's, gonna COME and, i, Go Well devin Visell
And devin book can play the. Same position so now
you're almost looking for a, third team which you know
how HARD an nba. Trade is now you had to
add a third dance, Partner too it just makes life
a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
More, difficult, Yeah absolutely but it also does feel like it's.

Speaker 13 (01:33:06):
Kind of necessary With the suns at.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
This point because you have so many other things going
on IN, the nba so many other, moving pieces.

Speaker 13 (01:33:14):
And it does look Like the suns are gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
Be a little picky with the return they're going. To
get they're not just Gonna Trade kevin durant, for, Nothing
RIGHT so i feel like a thirteam might have to
be where this GOES because i just don't SEE the
i don't See the spurs package being something That the
suns like drop everything and, go towards even though it
feels like those two teams are are going to end

(01:33:39):
up working together when it's all said, and done which.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Is funny so you see this happen with Let's Say,
anthony davis where HE says i want out and you
are almost forced to make a deal With. The lakers
now You're saying kat doesn't have that type, Of leverage
spurs don't have the type. Of pieces but you can't
bring this core back again for twenty, twenty five, twenty six?

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Can you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
That's an.

Speaker 13 (01:34:00):
INTERESTING question i.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
Think. YOU can i don't think you can under the
premise that you brought them in the last couple, of
seasons which is we're going to compete for. A Championship
If kevin durant's back on, the roster it's to basically
say we're not getting enough value. For you we're not
going to trade you. For nothing you'll either.

Speaker 13 (01:34:19):
Sign an extension with us so that we.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Can then trade you or we'll trade you closer to
the deadline for a half of, a season which means
will get, less maybe but a team might be. More
desperate maybe, the contract if you sign, it beforehand will come.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Into PLAY so.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
I would say it's very likely that's not going to happen,
all realities and what we've been preparing for and what
it feels like from reports from stuff that we've heard behind,
the scenes is that it's more than Inevitable That kevin
durant will be on. Another TEAM but i think there
is something To matt ishbia in this ownership group where

(01:34:56):
they kind of Have and i'll stick it to your
mentality and if if you're offering pennies on the Dollar For,
kevin durant they, might go, all, Right well i'm not
going to. Do that we'll just roll with it because
at the end of, the day and you guys will
learn this if if You get, katie there there's a
lot That follows katie around as far as, you know
his his, fan base the social, media presence. All That

(01:35:18):
but i'll give. Him credit what, credit. Is dude the
dude just shows up and he plays basketball at the highest,
possible level and so he he would if he was
still on, this roster he would, show up but he.
Would play he's already lost the season of his career,
to injuries and that's going to put him back on
the all time. Scoring ranking he just hit thirty thousand
career points. This year he's at the end of. His
career he's not gonna sit for. A season he's not

(01:35:40):
gonna sit for a couple.

Speaker 13 (01:35:41):
Of months.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
He'll PLAY so i think you do have that card
in your, back pocket but it's not exactly like, a, potent,
like hey we're going To Keep kevin durant and be
middling like we were.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Last year like, you know it's not going to scare.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
Other teams so you are stuck pretty much between a
rock and a. Hard spot it feels like if you
could get your premiere trade package from those teams that are,
mutually interested what would be the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Trade package you're looking at the second.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
OVERALL pick, i mean and it's the least likely thing
to come back In a kevin, Rant trade but if
you can get a top tier number two. Overall pick
i'm in Love With dylan. HARPER'S game I Think dylan
harper is an awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Backcourt fit Next To.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
DEVIN booker i think you could also trade that number
two pick to a team Like a brooklyn or somebody
else who's trying to move up and get multiple, lottery
picks maybe some future picks to replenish you know What
the suns. HAVE lost i think that is the number
one Asset the suns could get back as far as a, total,
package though if you look Over, at houston the number ten,

(01:36:41):
Overall Pick Jabari, Smith Junior, tari easton And Maybe jack
landale to make the. SALARY work i like that. As
well you get two, athletic wings a three and a
four to pair alongside book plus the, ten pick and
you could possibly get some of your own. Picks back
those are really the best packages Anything with Minnesota Involved
Julius Randall, new york even though they seem to be

(01:37:03):
off the table Would Be mitchell Robinson And, michale BRIDGES
which i personally would not be a fan of that kind.
Of Return, for katie it's the number two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Pick is the number.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
ONE asset i don't and maybe fourteen is thrown in there,
as well but it's Really Between san Antonio. And houston
from a, VALUE perspective i.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Was gonna ask if you weren't happy To Get julius.
RANDALL back, i mean he's a killer trade. Last, YEAR
now i understand where you're. Coming from we're Talking To
eric ruby From The phoenix suns podcast and this is
where you need to be listening if you are interested
In The phoenix suns saga of how. EVERYTHING goes i have,
to ask and it's a tough question to, ask anybody
but at what point Does Did devin booker get sick?

Speaker 9 (01:37:42):
Of?

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
This ah, you, KNOW man i.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
Don't know i'm not worried. About that to be completely honest,
With you he's seen much. Worse days you'd. Like this
this is a guy that it means something for him
to be Here. In PHOENIX and i know that sounds
so clear and every athlete, Says it but once a
week there are videos coming out of him driving around
the community and people swarming Him In devin. Booker jerseys

(01:38:08):
right like he he has been here when this team
was winning games in the teens in, the, twenties right
and he's also seen. The heights he's made it TO
The nba finals farther than any other Team In phoenix. Sun's,
history right they won the most regular.

Speaker 13 (01:38:23):
Season Games In phoenix.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
Sun's, History right He's Made All, First TEAM all nba
And OTHER all, nba Teams And matt eshbia And The
phoenix suns organization has has gone out there and publicly
stated like we're Building Around. Devin Booker devin booker's not,
going anywhere and reports have come out that that book
doesn't want.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
To leave i'm not worried.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
About it to be completely honest, with you, we say where,
there's smoke, there's fire there's no smoke when it Comes
To devin booker running Out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Of phoenix, all right we like to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Hear That eric ruby From The phoenix, suns podcast thanks so.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Much, man yeah OF course i have a.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Good one. You Too, all right when we, come back
we'll wrap up our three In The Craig waight show
and send you on your way On Sport IT'S radio
am Thirteen Hundred, The Zone SPORTS radio am Thirteen Hundred.
The zone thanks for hanging out with Us. This wednesday

(01:39:17):
Craig and cameron will be back, again tomorrow which. Is
big it'll, be EXCITING or i should Say At leastig
craig will. Be back cameron still. On break if You Like.
Eric ruby you can listen to him on THE pH nx.
Suns podcast that's the way to, find him as well
as we tagged him on social media. As well you

(01:39:38):
can go find me on social Media At, Andrew underscore
Zimmo on twitter or X, and yeah things, are exciting
things are happening. Over Here so i'm always pumped this
time of the year because you HAVE The nba playoffs
kind of WRAPPING Up nba, finals happening and then you also.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Have The Stanley cup.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Playoffs occurring and last year seven Game series Panthers, And
oilers Edmonton, versus florida and it was fun and it
was another Time where america has done. It great since,
ninety three We've been we've Kept The stanley cup in
the lower, forty Eight and i'm hoping that we do.
It again the only problem is, for me, AT least

(01:40:22):
i don't like Rooting for, florida FANS and i don't
know what the. DEAL is i don't know if It's
the GATORS when i was, a kid or if It's
The florida state fans in the early twenty tens Or the.
HEAT fans i don't know what. It Is but florida fans,
to me are almost as bad AS the la fans,

(01:40:44):
Growing up laker fans everywhere showing up TO the AT
And t Senator in, spurs GAMES and i don't know
what the, deal is but it's just kind of an
irksome Existence in miami Fans And florida panther fans have
been as annoying over the last. Calendar Year but i'm
having to suck. It up i'm having to hold it
together and just say, to myself you, know what it's gonna.

(01:41:05):
Be fine we just got to keep it Out of.
Canada's hands and the other part. That's interesting, you normally
when you have a very talented, young player you tend
to root for. That guy you want to. See greatness
you want to see a young guy try to reach
the levels of the other greats. All time but maybe
it's a social. Media thing maybe it's the last. Ten

(01:41:27):
years maybe it's just that everybody's a lot more. CYNICAL
now i don't know what the, problem is but the
amount of people who are Hating on connor McDavid Of
The edmonton oilers just doesn't make any sense. To me
the guy is absolutely Incredible. ON skates i don't know
why anybody would root, Against him and yet the more
Conversations that i'm a, part of the More stuff i'm
seeing on social media, and online which not always, the

(01:41:50):
truth but good temperature could gauge of how people, are
feeling the more people are Rooting against edmonton just because
of how.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Good connormc.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
GAVID is i don't understand why somebody would root against
a guy, like that root. AGAINST greatness i had a
lot of fun this Year as ovechkin Chase Down wayne.
GRETZKY'S record I watched ovechkin since he was, a teenager
And now i'm seeing him break one of the all
time records in the history of. The sport it's kind
of fun. To see same Way. WITH lebron i know
a lot of people don't. Love him some of the

(01:42:20):
stuff off THE court i don't, love either but the
fact that he was able to go Chase down kareem's
record is now the all time leading scorer and you've
got to see him since he was eighteen, years old
suiting up for the, first time and it's kind of cool,
to watch kind of cool. TO see i don't understand
why that would be the reason people would Root against
edmonton because How good connor. McDavid is But the panthers
lead to one in. The series thursday will be game,

(01:42:43):
number four and if it's anything like, last Year the
oilers are going to end up Beating at florida and
tying this series up. To Too but florida in that
six to one Win in game, number three Just, Dominating
edmonton you wonder if that is the way that this
series is going to continue, to go and If the
anthers went back To Back. Stanley cops are we talking Dynasty?

(01:43:03):
In florida is it weird to say that a Team
in miami is owning the? Hockey world he use a,
head scratcher. FOR sure i always Said that the weird
thing ABOUT the nhl expansion teams as you're putting teams
in cities that don't, Get, cold well they have hockey
teams and they don't. Get cold national, Gets cold But

(01:43:23):
the predators have a Hockey team like that doesn't make
that doesn't make a ton of sense. To me yet here,
we Are the south gets Hockey and florida might be
the champions of the hockey world. Once, Again tonight game
number three IN The Nba finals Pacers. And thunder it's
abundantly clear to me That the thunder are the better team.
On paper they've, got length they've, Got depth they've got
Guys Like, alex caruso who would be starting for what

(01:43:46):
twenty nine other teams coming off, the bench and you
HAVE the Mvp In Sga. Sa gills alexander's trying to
do something that only a handful of guards. Have done
WIN The, mvp award win the, scoring title and win
the championship in the. Same season it does. Not happen
it Happens With, steph curry Happens With. Michael jordan it
does not happen. That often so to see a Guy

(01:44:07):
like sga do what he did this year WIN The
mvp award in a league that has been dominated by
big men over the, past decade with Guys Like, Jo
kitchen Embiid And janis all winning the, award prior it
says to me that the pendulum is swinging back towards
the little guy running. The league you think back ten
years Ago With. Steph curry it's tyronic That that warriors
team that got a lot of grief in flack for

(01:44:29):
never playing a healthy point guard throughout their, playoff run
whether it be commonly going Down or kyrie ring in
the finals, going down that that team won sixty, seven
games HAVE the mvp and wins. The title that ten
years Later That oklahoma city is in a very similar
predicament when you see the teams that they. Have, beaten
yeah they've, been healthy but they haven't been nearly as commanding.

(01:44:52):
Of teams they have not been nearly as Competitive Against
oklahoma city as you would expect them. To be the
team that pushed them the furthest as a team that
had won a championship In The, denver nuggets and it's
because They Had nikolai jokic on, the roster who many
would consider as the greatest player on the planet or
the most talented player on. The planet EVEN though sga WON,
the mvp that's the only team that Has Given oklahoma

(01:45:14):
city any sort of struggle so far to. This point
AND when i look At the, pacers roster there's nobody
that can hold really a Carrot To nikolai, jokic's horse.
Let Alone, niklai jokic, right like he is that talented of.
A Guy oklahoma city has, more talent more depth Than The.

(01:45:34):
Indiana pacers but the one Thing the pacers have tonight
is home. Court advantage they're playing in front of a,
very rollby, very obnoxious Very loud indiana fan base that
has not gotten to see a finals game in their
arena in over twenty, five years since, two thousand When
the pacers lost TO The la lakers in.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
SIX games i.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
Wonder how impactful that will, be tonight if the crowd
can get, into it if they can BE the x
factor going Forward For. Indiana indiana If the Pacers win,
game three is there a world where they win two
more games and win a Championship Against. Oklahoma city it feels.
Almost unthinkable that's how big of A gap. I THINK

(01:46:15):
but i see between these. Two teams but you have
to consider that not only do they have the fan
base that's going to be allowed and, obnoxious tonight but
you're also going To Have, rick carlisle who has been
in these. Spots before he has gone INTO The nba
finals with a less talented team and come out. On
top it might take a Twenty Eleven miami heat type.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Of collapse
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