It's a Texan Tuesday! Craig and Cameron recap OKC's Game 5 win over the Indiana Pacers in the NBA Finals. They also provide updates on the College World Series and discuss Texas Women's Basketball conference opponents for the 2025-26 season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm thirteen hunder the Zone. My name is Craig Way,
glad to have you with us. US includes the producer
Cameron de Parker. The D on the Versatific does officially
Stanford Dallas, although there seems to be some ambiguity when
he last checked with his folks about how there was
kind of a groundswell movement to instead of calling him
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Dallas is the middle name, but going with Austin, but
then went had upon Dallas Dallas and that was the
name of his father's favorite pro football team in Cameron's
as well, even though he doesn't really he kind of
has disavowed.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Them for the time being.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But he's here and I know this. This won't be
like last week where he was so down in the
mouth with all the return.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Cuts and all the amusing stuff. He's depressed.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, no, no, Cameron's favorite NBA team is one win
away from its first NBA World Championship.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
He had we'll watched it last night. He has to
be happy about that was some good afternoon, And am
I right? Good afternoon, Craig. And yes, the D stands
for dub as in Jada Jalen Williams forty points last night.
He was spectacular in that victory for OKC, And you
mentioned the Game one loss. Of course, Tyre's Halliburton with
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another rabbit out of a hat trick at the very
end to cap off an incredible Pacers comeback, like many
they have come back so far in this postseason, Halliburton
getting it done and postgame with least assaulters on ESPN,
Jada basically said, this was exactly like Game one, except
that we closed the game and we didn't in Game one.
So for OKC, now just one game away from winning
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their first ever NBA championship in Oklahoma City. Of course,
the SuperSonics when.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Time seventy Unions nineteen seventy nine beat the Bullets Washington
now known as the Wizards, beat him in five games,
four games to one.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But that was kind of your typical OKC victory. I mean,
they come out in the first quarter in Indiana, had
like six seven turnovers in the first quarter, looked awful.
Haliburton has the calf hamstring injury early in the first quarter.
He wasn't really doing anything before that injury and definitely
didn't do anything after Cyril Viille Golds in the game.
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He played thirty four minutes, he played through it, he
left it and came back in. But okay C's defense
was just so stifling. Aaron Wiggins had a monster second
quarter to give OKAC double digit lead. He's been he's
been so huge for the Thunder in this postseason run.
And then in the third quarter, hats off to Indiana,
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okay see. I felt like they should have led by
probably twenty twenty five at halftime. Indiana was just kind
of hanging in there like Game one. And teach him.
McConnell hoff the bench. I think he had like sixteen
points in fifteen minutes at one point in the third quarter,
got it down to an eight point game, and Indiana
actually had it to a two point gave the fourth
quarter nine ninety three, and then okay see just flipped
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the switch defensively. I mean there was a period where
they forced I think five turnovers in like six or
seven possessions for Indiana. Dort hit a couple huge three
pointers in the fourth got a bang call out on
Mike Green. Jadub with some huge buckets, as as did
Shay Yeldas Alexander the MVP and okay see just bowled away.
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It was a huge win for Indiana, just fell apart
kind of offensively. And I made the comparison on Twitter
last night from of course, where the US opened this
past weekend and Oakmont considered maybe one of the hardest
golf courses in the world in you know, watching the
turmoil on Sunday, it felt like a golf course that
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those PJ pros, the best players in the world, did
not want to play. They looked miserable, and Indiana offensively
matching up against Okac's defense in the fourth quarter, they
looked miserable. So my comparison on Twitter was, is Okayc's
defense the equivalent of the Oakmont Country Club and US
Open positions? Because I don't think either the pacers or
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the golfers outside of JJ spawn enjoyed playing either either
last night or this past Sunday. But a huge win
for okay C JDub in shape just setting all kinds
of records that the first I think first teammates to
have over forty and thirty points I think multiple times
since Kyrie and Lebron did it in twenty sixteen. So
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what an impressive effort. And now game six Thursday night
at Indiana, and you know, we wait the status of
Tyree's Halliburton. The latest that came out from Sham's oft
des bans that they believe he has a strained right
calf and will undergo an MRI to determine the severity
of it. So can't imagine he does not play on Thursday.
But this certainly does change the dynamic of the series unfortunately.
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But and you know, a lot of a lot of
what goes into winning a championship, Craig, as you will
know in any sport is injury looking. Can you just
stay healthy? And so far, okay See has stayed pretty healthy,
and it looks like Indiana suffering a big blow to
their NBA title chances with Halliburton's injury and losing now
back to back game for the first time Indiana has
lost back to back games in the playoffs. And now,
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okay see a chance to capture it Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know, if if Halliburton isn't and I mean say
that he has to be one hundred percent, but if
he is not effective enough, they've they've got no chance
and the thunder will wrap it up in six games.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
He'll finish it off, uh.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
In six And you and you said before this series started, Uh,
you said you thought the thunder would take it and
you said five or six games. Uh, it hasn't gone
exactly like you thought it was because it's been a
tougher ride for them. But here they are still in
position to finish off in six games if they win.
So uh, it's but but if Haliburton isn't I'm not
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gonna say he has to be one hundred percent, but
probably eighty. I think he's got to be a lot
better than what he was physically.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And then and then the other guys who have contributed
throughout the course of this you know postseason are gonna
have to because this first time Indiana trail in a
postseason series this year, and how they respond. Of course,
they are back home, but they had a golden opportunity
the other night to take a three to two lead
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into Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Just like in the NHL Stanley Cup Finals, Edmonton had
a golden opportunity to go up three to.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Two by winning on home ice. They couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Florida beat them the other night, and now tonight the
Florida Panthers have a chance to go back to back
in terms of Stanley Cupps by getting back to back
wins over Edmondson. This one be on their home ice.
I would tell you this, and I think the Panthers
know this. Don't waste this opportunity, because if you drop
game six at home. First of all, game sevens are
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what they are, whether it's home ar on the road,
but especially if you've got to try to win a
game seven on the road. So and Florida's already done
that in the postseason, they did it at Toronto. But
even so, Edmonton is, as the old saying goes, they're
kind of like vampires.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You know, you don't you don't want to kill them off.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I still think Florida will probably win it tonight and
handle their business. But if they don't, look out, all
bets are off game seven. And I would also say that,
you know, obviously they can finish the job. Oklahoma City
can finish the job. If they don't, they do have
their home floor for Game seven, so they kind of
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have that, you know, and the ace in the hole,
so to speak. Even though Indiana's proven they can win it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, see who do you think, Well, which fan base
do you think? Well, let me go back, which team
you think has a better chance of Game six? Indiana
without without a healthy Aliburton or Edmonton on the road
against Florida.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm gonna say Edmonton. They've already won once in South Florida.
The NHL more than any other pro sports league. For
whatever reason, more road teams win playoff games in the
NHL than in any other league.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know why. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Home ice does not mean to the NHL, what home
court does to the NBA, what home field can do
in the NFL playoffs, and even in Major League Baseball playoffs,
you know, the dimensions are different in the ballpark if
the team is built more for pitching and hitting, depending
on the size of the ballpark they play in. In
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the NFL, clearly, when you get to the playoffs, you're
talking about weather, weather related issues. And if you're in
a place like Kansas City or Buffalo where it's just
you know, absolutely frigid, Green Bay, New England. You know,
historically those place it's a lot more difficult to win
in those environs than to say, to win in a
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dome or in South Florida. It's it's harder to win
in those cold weather environments in those things than is otherwise.
So I would in this instance, I would say, and
then so he said, well, wait a minute, Indiana would
be at home. But if Haliburton, he's the X factor,
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and if he's not, I'd say he's the X factor.
He's the front line guy, even more so than the
X factor. X factor might be a guy like Kneesmith
or somebody like that, but but it's he's a headline player.
They've got to have him being able to go as
close to full till as possible. Even if he isn't
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one hundred percent, he's got a you know, he's got
a play like it or close to it, because without
that kind of effort in production, I don't think they have.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
A shot one hundred percent. And it's not just his scoring,
it's his ability to play make and set up teammates.
And last night when he was out there, you know,
he wasn't really moving the ball around. He kind of
would get a one on one situation and he would
try and get separation. You could tell he wasn't one
hundred percent, and then it would lead to a turnover,
he would just pass it to a teammate with you know,
like five seconds in the shot clock. And that's not
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how Indiana wants to operate. They want to move the
ball quickly and move with pace and get you know,
shots up within five to seven seconds. And the offense
look completely different with Halliburn out there. It's they're in
that third quarter, run Craig, it was TJ. McConnell. Haliburton
was on the bench. It was McConnell because he was
getting into the payton putting up shots quickly. And Indiana
lost that in the fourth quarter against the case C.
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So I think I agreed I would go to Edmonton
with a better chance of winning a game six than Indiana.
But well, you know, we'll see Wayne Tyres Haliburton, can
you know, come off and pull out a with Walt
Fraser type performance Willis Reed. Willis Reed type performed.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Same team, same NBA Finals, nineteen seventy. And it's funny
that she said Walt Fraser because even though Willis Reid
gave them all and what we're talking about is Game
seven NBA Finals, Lakers and Knicks and Madison Square Garden,
they didn't think Willis REI, the center is gonna be
able to go, and then he suited up. He hobbled
out there on the floor, and the place went crazy,
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and the Knicks got all fired up and ended up
beating the Lakers to win their first NBA World title.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That was nineteen seventy and even.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The Red provided them the emotional inspiration and they got
juiced up and fired up. The guy who really had
the production in the game was Walt Fraser. He had
the huge game, and the Knicks won the title and
they beat Will Chamberlain and Jerry West and the Lakers.
They won it in seven games. The next year, a
very young Milwaukee Bucks team, one of the youngest teams
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in NBA history to win a title, did so by
sweeping the then Baltimore Bullets, who then became the Capitol Bullets,
played at the Cap Center in Landover. Then they were
the Washington Bullets before now being known as Washington Wizards.
But that was a very young team, much like this
Oklahoma City team, which is the second youngest. I think
Milwaukee is the third or fourth youngest. They had a
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very young Kareem abdul Jabbar in nineteen seventy one, in fact,
if he's still going by the name lu Al Sindor officially,
but he had already religiously changed his name to Kareem
Abdul Jabbar, and then the next year, I think seventy
one seventy two is when he went full on and
just changed his name and everything. But in seventy one,
the Bucks had a very young team. The age total
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was skewed a little bit by Oscar Robertson because they
made a trade with Cincinnati, the old Cincinnati Royals, to
get him before the start of the year, and it
kind of skewed the age. But otherwise they had a
very young team and went on and won the NBA Finals. Well,
this Oklahoma City team is the second youngest team to
play in the NBA Finals. The youngest ever to win
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it was the nineteen seventy seven Portland Trailblazers that had
a twenty four year old Bill Walton, that had a
twenty I think a twenty four year old or twenty
three year old Maurice Lucas. It was a very young
team and they spotted the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, a
heavily favored Sixers team, a two games to none. Lead
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and swept the next four games and won the NBA title.
And so this team that Oklahoma City is trying to
pull through to win its first NBA title is second
only to that Portland team of seventy seven in terms
of its youth. It is the second youngest team, and
by the way, to this day, that's the only Portland
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team that's ever won an NBA title. They got into
the finals a couple of times against the Pistons and
then against Michael Jordan's Bulls, but never won another one.
UH and they've and they've won. They've won that one
in nineteen seventy seven. So we'll see how the thunder
do on that. All right, We've got some other things
to get to, some NCAA notes and transfer portal things
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and stuff like that. College World Series is going on.
They had to finish a game they could not finish
last night because of thunderstorms in Omaha.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That game is in the books.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That was a winners bracking game, and the loser of
that game is not gonna have to turn around and
play tonight against the uh against the loser of a
game that's going on. Actually, there's a there's another elimination
game that's going on right now between Oregon State and Louisville,
and we'll get you updated on all that, and we'll
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also direct ourselves to your questions, your thoughts, your comments.
All you have to do is text the word Texas
followed by your question or comment to eight one, five
three zero, So text the word College World Series is
going on right now. There's an elimination game going on
in Omaha and they are in the going to the
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bottom of the second inning, Louisville and Oregon State meeting
for the second time. Louisville's already won one elimination game,
they knocked out Arizona, and now they're playing in Arizona
Oregon State, who had been beaten on Sunday by Coastal Carolina.
And right now Louisville leads at one nothing, going to
the bottom of the second inning.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Again, that's an elimination game.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The winner of that game will have to beat Coastal
Carolina twice to get to the national Championship.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I have to beat on Wednesday and then Thursday in
order to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Now, they got behind a little bit, and this does
happen in Omaha on occasion. They did get behind because
of weather. They had severe thunderstorms rolled through the area
last night. Now this was after yesterday where he had
the no hitter for Gauge Wood of Arkansas in elimination
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game when he no hit Murray State only allowed one
base runner on a hit batter struck out nineteen, a
nine inning College World Series record, and Arkansas won three nothing.
So Arkansas advanced to play tonight in another elimination game. Now,
they were supposed to play the winner of last night's
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winners bracket game between LSU and UCLA, but it was
four to three in the second inning and the skies
opened up in Omaha and they had to stop the
game and couldn't finish it. So they picked it up
this morning and LSU won it over UCLA nine to five.
It was UCLA's first loss in this NCAA postseason. They
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swept through the regional, they swept through the superregional, swept
UTSA in the Superregional, and then won their first game
beating Murray State, but then lost to LSU last night
nine to five. So LSU is in the same boat
that LSU is in the same boat that Coastal Carolina is.
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They only need one more win to advance the National
Championship Series. So because they had to carry the game
over and finish it today, UCLA loses, they have to
turn around and play tonight at six o'clock, so it's
kind of a day night double header thing, and they
have to play Arkansas in the elimination game tonight, and
then the winner of that is going to have to
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beat LSU twice, once tomorrow and then once on Thursday
to try to reach the National Championship Game. But again
it's one nothing Louisville leading Oregon State in their elimination game.
Winner of that, the loser is done for the year.
The winner is going to have to beat Coastal Carolina twice.
So that's where that is right now. And then there's
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some other things that we've got to get to as well.
Major League Baseball, So we should go to this big
night for you. Last night, well, the team I root
for obviously, there was a lot focused on them, and
then there's usually a lot focused on the Dodgers anyway,
and especially if you're a the Fitning World champion. But
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Choe Otani went to the pitchers Mount last night for
the first time as a Dodgers. The first time he
pitched in a game since August of twenty twenty three,
nearly two calendar years ago he had Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So he's been hitting, and we know how good he
is at that.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Last year became the first ever fifty to fifty man
in baseball history. Fifty home runs, fifty stolen bases. He
won't steal fifty bases this year. Could it possibly fifty
home runs? He's got twenty five. He's halfway there right now.
We're not even at the halfway point of the season,
so he could theoretically do that. But there are those
who feel that once he returns from the mound to
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pitch full time, it'll probably drop off a little bit. Well,
last night was the first game that he got into
as a pitcher for the Dodgers, first time he pitched
since he was with the Angels two years ago, and
it was scheduled to be a short outing. Dave Roberts
said they didn't want him going over thirty pitches anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
He pitched eight through twenty eight pitches.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Now, they were all in the first inning, and he
did give up a run to the San Diego Padres,
and he was trailing one to nothing, but the Dodgers
came back, doing large measure to his efforts at the plate.
He drove in two runs, he had a double, he
had a single, drove in a couple of runs, scored
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a run. The Dodgers ended up coming back and winning
the game six to three over San Diego. He did
not factor in the decision, however, and this is one
of those weird quirks that you have in baseball. I
did find it interesting because this hasn't happened in the
Major League since pitchers were hitting, so it would have
been pre pandemic, and I'd be curious to see how
many times that it might have happened in twenty nineteen
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in the National League when pitchers were still hitting. And
my gut feeling is that it rare happened, if at all.
But he took himself off the hook. He no decision
to himself because he was behind one to nothing. Otani
was because the Dodgers were trailing, and if San Diego
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gone on to get the win and not surrendered to lead,
O'tanny would have taken a loss. Well, that didn't happen.
The Dodgers tied it, went on and won. He didn't
get the win. He only pitched that one inning, but
he did take himself off the hook for the loss.
He had the RBI single to drive in a run,
and then Max Buntz he had won to drive in
two more runs. But he took himself off the hook
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with that, and he threw, like I said, twenty eight pitches.
I believe seventeen of the twenty eight were at ninety
five miles per hour or faster.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He topped out.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
He went over one hundred I think three times, including
one hundred point two at one, and was in the
upper nineties quite a bit, so.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
He had to velo.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
He didn't quite have the control yet. He throws a fastball,
a slider, and he throws a bit of a sweeper,
and Manny Machada was quoted as saying, when he's really
good is when he's got that sweeper working. And I
saw it one time, get a guy to swing and
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miss one. He didn't have any strikeouts and he didn't
have any walks, but anyway, it was it was yeah,
it was much ado. There was a lot of hullabaloo
about him coming back, but it felt pretty good about him.
They wanted to see how he felt today. We've seen
no reports that indicate that he doesn't feel all right,
and if he does feel okay, he'll probably go again
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in the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Next seven to eight days.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
So yeah, I think it gives Dodger fan's excitement because
they've been running with two bullpen games recently. They're supposed
to get him at Cheann back. They could get Blake
Snell back within a week, which would which would obviously
help him.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hey, he touched went on. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah,
show you look pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So if they get him into the rotation, fine, and
they're transferring Ben Casparius into the rotation. He came on
after Rotani did last night and wound up getting the
wind did Caspirius. But I know a lot of folks
are excited about seeing what he can do because he's
just an amazing specimen of a person with what he
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can do, and he's quite the athlete.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's fun to watch. He makes the sport. Yeah, fun
the watch absolutely all right.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Up next, we have Inconceivable here on a Tuesday afternoon
on thirteen under the Zone, hour number two.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Here on thirteen under the.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Zone, Craig Wage joined by the producer Cameron Parker, glad
to have you with us. We're with you up till
five o'clock this afternoon and here throughout the course of
this week.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now, CAM will be out Thursday. In Frinday, You've got
like some.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Massive family family reunion thing happening at the I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Say it's a massive family reunion thing, but yeah, people
coming in town this weekend. So no Thursday or Friday.
And then next week begins the craig Way sabbatical, well
like three years.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, Friday, as always, I will actually be here through
Wednesday of next week.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
We'll bring in the show through Wednesday and then.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And then I'll be out for the next two weeks
in a couple of days leading into SEC Media Days
at the annual trip to North Carolina, because as folks know,
it's really and truly about the only time I really can't.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Take vacation there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It falls between the end of the college baseball season
and the first sign posts of the football season to come,
and that includes obviously SEC Football Media Days and then
the Texas High School Coaches Association's annual coaching school and convention.
You realize the High School Coaches a Sociation in Texas
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which for years has been the largest of its kind
in the world, now numbers twenty eight thousand members. They're
twenty eight thousand coaches of the Texas High School Coach Association.
So their annual coaching school as they call it, and
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their convention takes place.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's in San Antonio.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It'll be at the end of July, and I'll be
down there because I amc a couple of events for them,
their Hall of Honor banquet, which is, you know, one
of the highlight moments when they induct new coaches going
in or new members of their Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And then the other thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Which is something I really enjoy doing, and I've done
it for over twenty years now. I think the first
year we started was two thousand and three, so this
will be the twenty third of that. And this includes,
by the way, the pandemic. We did that in a
creative way, which I'll tell you about a moment. But
what it is is there's a panel discussion of featuring
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on one stage all at the same time every Division
one FBS football head coach in the state of Texas.
I'll think about that for a minute. Every Division one
FBS football coach. There are thirteen Division one FBS programs
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Division one. How many of those thirteen can you just
name off the top of you? Heread camp. Let's see
if we can get to you through all thirteen, Phil Ango, Well,
you don't have to name the coaches. I'm just saying
the programs. Phil Longo is the new head coach at
Sam Houston, though you are correct, just named the programs.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
There are thirteen Division one FBS football programs in the
state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
How many can you name? A right, Sam Houston?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You just name there so long, I'll go Texas, Texas
A and M yep, Texas Tech yep, baylorp SM, you
t C U, is U, t r g V going
to be there.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
No, because they're gonna be f c s when they
check in. These are in state. Yes, I thought they transitioned.
They had to transition from Division two to Division one
f c s.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So rice yep? Did did I already say? S m U?
You did? Okay? So that's eight. That's a. Texas State
is nine. That's nine, oh utep, cel Passo is ten.
Let's see, one's pretty close to your not far incarnate words.
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Same town, same town, who's in San Antonio U s
A eleven eleven, got more and more, University of Houston
that's twelve and then hm oh, this is fun. Okay,
trying to remember Dallas. I already got s m U
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already hat TC. I already said Texas State. Is it
in Houston Houston area? No, northern.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
The keyword there is north North, oh North Texas about
to disappointment, disappointment there anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
A football program.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
He forgot. They've been going to bowl games pretty regularly.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Everyone goes to ball games. That's a good point, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So there's thirteen Division one FBS college football programs and
all of the head coaches who are pretty much there
anyway because it's coaching School and the Coaching Convention, A
lot of them are speaking. Sark Is doing a lot
of He is a keynote speaker for one of their
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main events. But all thirteen of those coaches on the
Sunday afternoon, the opening weekend of coaching School, and coaching
School runs from like Saturday, which would be the nineteenth
I guess through Tuesday. I guess, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesdays
four days, I guess, and they get all thirteen of
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them up there on one stage for an hour, and
they hand me a microphone and they say, go. What
it basically is is is one hour of hearing from
these coaches. I pose questions to them and they all answer,
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and they've all they've down through the years, they've all
been really good. We only had a couple of times,
like one year. I'm not saying there's anything connected to this, Cameron,
but the one year that Jimbo Fisher skipped it was
his last year as head coach at Texas A and
he's just saying, so.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
If anyone skips it this year, then go ahead and
go to Fandel and put some money on that coach
being fired. Mike Leach skipped it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He only he actually even came to it his first
couple of years and they just stopped coming. But I
mean they come all the way from UTEP like you
mentioned in North Texas and all this sort of things.
So and it's basically questions that the high school coach.
We have a full room. There's about nine hundred high
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school football coaches in the room, and they want to
hear these coach coaches address questions like early signing days
and transfer Portal and in IL and all of those things.
And these coaches, they're up there in front of their constituency,
the ones from whom they draw their recruiting bases. So
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they're they're pretty plain spoken about it. It's it's really good.
It's it's good stuff. They're very good. So anyway, we
do that for an hour. So I actually had a
meeting in San Marcos this morning with the leadership down there.
And I always enjoy coaching school and all that. They
used to have the All Star Games, which were great,
and I did those on TV and even some on
radio over the year, and those were wonderful events high
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school football. It was the official real high school football
and basketball all star games, and it was the last
time guys who had put on a high school football
uniform before either going off to college or not playing anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And there were some great games.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
The last one we did was the eightieth one all
time because it started I think like in nineteen thirty five,
and it was it was in San Antonio and the Alamodome,
and there have been some great ones over the years,
but ultimately the NCAAA shut it down because they said
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it would be an unfair recruiting advantage for somebody, for
one of those student athletes who didn't have a college
scholarship to do that right, And then we're being real here,
the one by the end of July. If you don't
have a college football offer six weeks real really a
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week before practice starts, chances are you're not going to
be playing college football or not planning to. So it's
kind of silly what they did did that They had
a football and a basketball all star game and it
was great and I enjoyed working.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Those, but those haven't been around.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think twenty twelve is the last one of those
we did, so that's unfortunate because they were great.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
They were really really cool.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
But coaching school itself is next month, and like I said,
it'll be right after SEC Football Media Days. These are
all these sign post events that are mentioned that you
know that football is just.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Around the corner.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
The first, the first of those signpost events is coming
very soon, and that is the release of Dave Campbells
Texas Football Magazine. Now next week, Greg Chepper, the editor
in chief of the magazine, will join us on the
program to talk about the magazine, to talk about being
the selection for being on the cover to talk about
what's new about the magazine. But the magazine is not
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on the shelves yet. It's not hit the newsstands. It's
not in Walmart or Barnes and Noble or whatever. Right now,
it's not It hasn't even gone out to the subscriber
list yet. There were some interesting printing issues or something
that happened, But anyway, it should be going out at
the tail end of June to subscribers, in first week
of July to the public to the rest.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Already had people asking me for a copy, Craig, I'm
sure we'll get them away. We're gonna get We're gonna
give them away.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I've done it every year since nineteen ninety eight, and
the folks a Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine are always
gracious enough to give us some copies to give away.
And by some I mean usually we've had like about
one hundred, and we give them away throughout the course
of a month. We'll see how many they get to
us or whatever by the time it is time to
give them away. And it's almost certainly to happen once
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I get back from vacation. But we will give away
copies of the magazine this year, so we're gonna do
that as well, so we look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Up next, we've got some sec news to pass along.
We'll update you on the College World Series game, and
I do want to hear a couple of the offerings
of Cameron's dad's selections for the music survey, just to
kind of wet the appetite a little bit here, because
the next one's coming up on Thursday, when my Cardbo
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Harges does it. So all that and more coming up
when we continue here on thirteen under the Zone. First
of all, updating the College World Series game. It's now
in the bottom of the fourth inning. Louisville had taken
a three to nothing late organ State came back with
two in the bottom of the third, but.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Louisville got a home run from Zion Rose in the
bottom of.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The fourth, So it's four to two Louisville, bottom of
the fourth of that elimination game.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
The winner of that game will advance.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
To play Coastal Carolina, and they would have to beat
them twice tomorrow and then then get on Thursday. They'd
have to beat them no more to force a final
game out of that bracket on Thursday. Tonight, UCLA will
play Arkansas an elimination game. Arkansas stayed alive yesterday behind
that gauge Wood no hitter, shutting out an ending the
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season of Murray State three to nothing, and then UCLA
and LSU began their winners bracket game last night. UCLA
jumped to three to nothing lead. LSU came back with
four in the bottom of the first. They were up
four to three in the second when the skies opened
up and severe thunderstorms. They stopped playing. They couldn't finish,
so they had finished this morning and LSU won the
game nine to five. So now UCLA, which lost for
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the first time in this NCAA postseason, is now having
to play an elimination game tonight against Arkansas. The losers
season will be complete, they will be over. The winner
will move on and then would have to defeat LSU twice.
They'd have to beat them tomorrow and then win an
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if necessary game on Thursday to advance to the National Championship Series,
which is Saturday, Sunday and if necessary, Monday. It's the
best two out of three, So Coastal Carolina and LSU
are in the best shape to reach that championship round,
but it's not done yet. Speaking to college news, here's
NCAA are to excuse me SEC related information today the
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women's basketball matchups in conference play. These are conference games
for the SEC have been announced and the actual conference schedule.
The actual conference schedule will begin on January first. So,
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and the way this is set up, there's a single
round robin of home or away. That's fourteen games with
one rotating opponent that will be played at home and
away two games. Each team will play eight home games
and eight games. But as Cameron was noting when he
looked at the schedule, it means, as I just related
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in Layman's terms, Texas will only play one team two times.
Last year was South Carolina they at home and home.
This year it'll be LSU. So this will be the
seventeenth season of the sixteen game schedule, So they're gonna
have sixteen games. The women's tournament will be in Greenville,
as it has been the past. It'll start on Wednesday,
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March fourth and conclude on Sunday, March eighth. Okay, so
here are the conference games the Texas is gonna have.
First of all, these are home games. These are the
home games they'll have. They'll love Auburn and home Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri,
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Mississippi State, Texas, A and M in Oklahoma. Now, last
year they played every one of those teams on the road,
So it is a flip flop. They played at Auburn,
they played at Georgia, they played at Kentucky, they played
at Missouri. No, that's not true. They that's not Missouri,
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that's Ole Miss. I saw U M. Sainsbury. That's that's
Old miss And they did play them on the road,
Ole miss, Mississippi State, A, and M in Oklahoma. They
played every one of those games on the road. Last year,
they get all of those opponents at home.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
These are the.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Games they have to play on the road at Alabama,
at Arkansas, at Florida, at Missouri, at South Carolina, at Tennessee,
and at Vanderbilt. So the UH and then the one
opponent that they played both home and away is LSU.
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So the the biggest difference between last year and this
year is that last year they played LSU one time.
It was at home. Memorable game. They were down thirteen
in the third quarter, came back and won that game.
They play LSU home and home. South Carolina, who they
played home and home last year. They only played one time,
but the game is in Columbia, so they are going
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to have to go there. So that's some of the
key matchups there as far as South Carolina goes. Of course,
shared the title with Texas last year, won the SEC
Women's Tournament, got to the championship before they were blown
out by Yukon. Of course, South Carolina beat Texas in
the final four and it was a fourth time they met.
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During the year, South Carolina plays Georgia at home, Ole
miss at home, Mississippi State at home, Missouri at home,
Tennessee at home, Vanderbilt at home, and Texas at home.
And on the road, South Carolina plays at Arkansas, at Auburn,
at Florida, at Kentucky, at LSU at A and M
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and at OU.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Is there a non conference series against South Carolina in
a tournament, because based off South Carolina's website says Texas
will play South Carolina twice, including once in a non
conference game. Is there an exhibition or one of those
early season? I know they're going to Las Vegas to
start it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Would it would have to be in that Vegas event.
I've not seen the opponents now unless someone knows, but
I do know this. I do know this because I
remember hearing about this last year. South Carolina is part
of that what is it called Legends Classic whatever it is. Yeah,
they're in that. They are in it. So it is
possible that those two teams are meeting in a game
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that will not count in the conference standings, like Texas
Baseball did with Ole Miss at the start of the year.
So that's entirely possible. They could wind up playing uh,
South Carolina in Vegas as well as in Columbia, but
they will not be playing them in Austin, so that's
for sure all of that. Uh So, so what this
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means has obviously by announcing these women's opponents.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's the Hall of Fame Series, right, Hall of Fame Series.
Legends was in Brooklyn, That's right.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I thought it had some other weird name to it. Ummm,
we look check some other source. I am seeing that
it's called it's called the.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Wait a minute, the men played It was the Hall
of Fame Series Las Vegas opening night right before Texas.
But Ohio State it was South Carolina and Michigan the
game before it may have had had a different name. Yeah,
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
It's called the Player's Era Okay in Las Vegas, yep.
And it happens the Wednesday of Thanksgiving week and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Okay, the Hall of Fame is the opening. This is
Thanksgiving so different. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. It says women
teams Duke, South, Carolina, Texas and UCLA.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Okay, Okay, so there you are. So anyway, that's uh
that that's where the women's schedule is. And again they
have not announced the completed women's non conference schedule because
I think they're still trying to nail down a couple
of opponents.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Last year, Vic was trying to nil it down.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh it was it was like yeah, I think it
was like he finally got all the opponents done.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I think three weeks before the season began, Richmond, James
Madison and YEAD to go there.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, to get it done now, and that was an
agreement to do a home and home. So one would
imagine that this year on the schedule, Richmond will have
the return game in Austin and James Madison will have
a return game in Austin. So that's about all I
know about that and that they are going to play
in that Las Vegas event. But I don't know any
of the Like you said, you just announced the teams
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that will be in the Las Vegas then that's on
their website, right, Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
But it says matchup and schedules coming soon. Yeah. Yeah.
Is it kind of like one of those things where
you play someone and you win in advance and then
you go to the loser side. There's only four teams.
The men's tournament has what eighteen teams in it, so
that that's kind of like a yeah, typical you know,
Thanksgiving week, So it's kind of like, you know, the
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Maui Invitational that Texas will be playing. You're right, Yeah,
what's the one Battle for Atlantis Battle.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
For Atlantis or some of the one down to Disney World,
the ones in uh at Myrtle Beach or the you know, whether.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's Bad Bad Boy Moors.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, and then then and then the one in Charleston.
There's a lot of those holiday events Hawaii in addition
to Maui. So yeah, there's there's a lot of events.
We It was announced back several months ago the Texas
would play in that Maui Invitational, and it will be
the first time. It's got a tricky answer here. It'll
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be the first time that Texas will have played in
the Maui Invitation on five years. However, it'll be the
first time they've played in Maui in thirteen years. You see,
they went to the Maui Invitational all the way back
in the first time he went was nineteen ninety three
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when the Maui Invitational was pre Christmas, not pre Thanksgiving,
and he went out there in ninety three. I'll ever
get this. It was a December of ninety three, ninety three,
ninety four seasons. So they go out there and they
have to play Kentucky the first game. And this was
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a Kentucky team coach by Rick Patino that went.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
To the lait As Sweet sixteen. They were really good.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
And that gym, the Lahina Civil Center, which is basically
a gym, seats at least it did at that time,
and it may still seat twenty four hundred. Kentucky fans
purchased twenty one hundred of the twenty four hundred seats.
The entire building was a wash in blue, and they
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throttled Texas. He being in by twenty five points. So
Texas went into the consolation bracket.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And they won a game over I.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Believe it was Tennessee Tech was the second game, and
then they played Notre Dame for fifth place. And Notre
Dame was coached by John McCleod, the one time Dallas
Maverick's coach, and who was the coach that coached just
got recently got fired him with the son's money. Williams.
He played for Notre Dame in that game. So Bill
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Sheenigan I did this a guy that was in ninety three.
And then they didn't go for a long time afterwards,
and by then, by the time the next time they went,
the event had become a pre Thanksgiving event, the one
during feast week that we're all acquainted with now. So
the next yeah, So the next time they went was
in two thousand and I think they finished in third
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and was in Maui. Then they went in two thousand
and four, I think finished third again. I think it
happened in eight and might have finished third or fifth
or something fifth or something like that, or not third.
I guess they were finishing fifth because they lost like
some early games. Then was the twenty twelveth tournament that
Cameron remembers, even though you weren't out there. That's when
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they lost all three games, including the shamanad in that deal. Yeah,
that's the last time Texas played in Maui. Now in sixteen,
they declined that invitation to go back because it was
Shaka Smart's first year. Remember they opened in Shanghai. He
wanted to play in Brooklyn. They played in the event,
Brooklyn lost both of those games. And then the next
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time it was twenty twenty. Well, as we know, twenty
twenty was the pandemic here. Now they had the tournament,
but they moved the tournament from Lahina. They moved it
from Maui to Ashville, North Carolina, because, as we know,
Mali and Ashville looked exactly alike her, very very similar. Actually,
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Ashville is a lovely place. Lenn and I are going
to spend a little time over there on the vacation
of her, but it's different than Mali. But we were
not permitted to go to broadcast that due to the
protocols that were in place, so we did it remotely
from studios back here. In fact, they were in the
bowels of DKR. Texas Memorial Stadium, and wouldn't you know it,
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Texas won the event that year. They beat Davidson the
first game, then they beat Indiana, and then they beat
North Carolina in the championship and they won it in
twenty twenty. So that's the last time Texas played in
the Maui Invitational. The last time they were physically playing
in Maui was twenty twelve or it is. They'll go
this year, twenty twenty five. And we haven't seen anything,
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you know, in terms of brackening or anything like that.
But I would imagine in the coming weeks, since we've
now seen the women's conference schedule, or at least the
conference opponents, the home and away opponents for the SEC
games for women's basketball, I would imagine we'll see it
for men's basketball pretty soon, you know. If not in
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the next day or two, certainly perhaps maybe by the
end of the week or something like that, we should
learn the men's men's conference home and away schedule. Not
the exact dates, but there are opponents and whether they're
playing them at home or way, it'll be on down
the road. And that's where television gets really involved.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
In the games. They want to televise and all that
sort of stuff. Get those golf clubs ready, A oh gosh,
I ate my lunch. That was shooning and I played
at ninety three. That's the one where I tee off
and I have a terrible slice and the faaraway's bending
down to the left trying to line up left to
play the slice, and it sliced badly onto the rocks
and down to a cove down there, and it's muttered
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around my breath. Damn it Ben, And of course it
was Ben Crenshaw designed that plantation course, and Shoney goes,
will you get mad at Ben? Four?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
And I said, he designed it. He could have put
the fairway over there, so no, he can't, the oceans
over there. He had to put it there. So anyway,
Bill always said that that Ben's wife, Julie always enjoyed
that story about that with regard to my bad cough game.
So anyway, yeah, we'll see, we'll see if I play
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it this time around. In the meantime, we've got some
other things to get to and we'll do that next
when we continue on thirteen Under the Zone, third and
final hour of the program. Here on thirteen under the Zone,
Craig Way alongside the producer Cameron Parker. Glad to have
you with us on this Tuesday afternoon. A quick update
on the College World Series. Louisville is still leading Oregon State.
It's five to three top of the seventh. It was
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four to two Louisville in the top of six when
Oregon State loaded the bases when nobody out and wound
up only being able to get one run out of it.
And then Louisville came back with a run to get
the two run margin backs. And there's now two down
with two on in the top of the seventh Oregon
State and they trail by a score of five to three,
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and they've gone oh for nine today when hitters have
come to the play with runners in scoring positions. So
that's always something that's difficult to overcome. If you can't
get those guys home, it makes a big difference on that.
I always like to whenever we have the opportunity to
give away something on the air, or at least give
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away an opportunity to win something on the air, And
that's what we have for you with a pair of
tickets to see Jason Aldeen at Moody Center. On August sixteenth,
and by listening to this program during the week, you
can enter in by telling them the keywords. So this
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is how it works. If you don't already have the
iHeartRadio app, and why wouldn't you, I mean, it's free,
it's easy. There's lots of great opportunities and listening events
and things like that and waste win. It's free, it's
easy to download. You just have the down you download
the iHeart Radio app. When you get it downloaded, you
search for AM thirteen hundred the zone us Really, so
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you search for AM thirteen hundred the zone station pops up.
You'll see a little button, a little red button there
that has a microphone on it. So what you want
to do is you tap that red microphone. Do that,
and then after you tap the red microphone, then you
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have a chance to leave us a message. And you
do it by what we call our talk backline. So
it's a button with a little white microphone. You'll see
it in the upper right corner. You tap that button
and then you can leave us a message of up
the thirty seconds saying hey, yeah, I heard on Craig
Show they were giving away opportunity to win a pair
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of tickets to see Jason Aldean. Here's the keyword for today.
You tell them what the keyword is. Yes, say the
keyword was country. Today's keyword tractor tractor. So it's as
simple as that. So it's pretty easy, pretty easy to do.
Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I don't know country tractor? I mean, well, what's the
other keyword tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Hey, uh no, it's not, but it's it's it's it's
I'm looking at it right now. Let's say it's a
word that's pretty endemic to a country Jason Holden, was
he the one who did she thinks my tractor sexy?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Is that? Why? That would be up to me? Let's
see Jason Aldean.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
I don't you know, my my knowledge of the country
music scene is limited at best. I know he's very popular.
I know he's had a lot of hits. But big
Green Tractor. That's it, Big Green tractor. Okay, so see, okay,
it must be his office new album. There you go,
that makes perfect sense. Big green tractors. You guys, actually
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a big green tractor.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Some of these guys, the country music guys, are really
and truly true country music guys, and you know the
parents of farmers or ranchers or whatever, or the the
who had farmers or ranchers who you know, farmers or
ranchers for parents, they had that. So anyway, so it
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could be that's a big green tractor. Yeah, so anyway,
today's keyboard is tractor.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
You can do that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
The on the text line where we say you can
always text us at eight one five three zero, do
text the word Texas followed by your question of comment
the eight won five three zero. Somebody said the Booze
vendors and Omaha are rooting for LSU.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, no, tell yeah, they don't know. I haven't seen
the latest of the jell O shot tracker at Yeah.
That said DJ's Dugout, which is right near there.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
That was, by the way, that was the place at
Texas advanced to the College World Series. We were making
plans to have camera and hard and have a whole
group up there right and do shows up there. And
the place we had targeted and we're wanting them shows
was DJ's Dugout, which is just I won't say it's
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just beyond the right field fence. It's up the street,
but it's not far from the ballpark, and it's a
big watering hole and gathering place, and that's where they
do a jellow shot count and LSU is right up
to the top when Texas was there. I think Texas
and Tennessee were both really good in.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
That jell O shot category. There.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
I mentioned we were talking earlier about Willis Reid scoring
being big inspirational lyft to his New York Knicks teammates
in nineteen seventy, and I said he provided the inspirational left.
Walt Fraser was the real heavy duty provider that somebody
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had texted in and said, I believe Willis Rereed only
scored four points in that game seven. I averaged four
points in high school, and I never inspired the same fire.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah, I understand, I understand. Hey, but you had more
points in high school than you did and Tyres Haliburton
did last night. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Remember the famous line from the late great Abe Lemons,
who on the post game show, or maybe it was
at a news conference postgame news conference, actually was a
post game in the locker room, he told one guy
who scored one point, you realize you scored one point
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more than a dead man.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Are these quotes kept somewhere, because every Abe Lemon story
you've told me is hilarious. Something about the one where
and I'll let you retell. But he was asked about
if he was interested in the Los Angeles Lakers job,
and he said no, and I think someone asked him
why not, and he goes because I don't think the
Los Angeles Lakers are interested in me.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's exactly right. And that's
when he had things going really well. He had, he
had some some I can't even tell on the air,
but I can't. I can tell this one on the air.
He actually did this. Texas was playing SMU at Moody Coliseum,
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where SMU plays its home games where they're playing back then,
even this was before they even had the renovation at
Moody which I have now and suppose it's really nice.
But so they were playing in Moody Coliseum in SEMU
and the benches are well student seating in those days
was right behind the opponent's bench, and they are riding
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Abe Lemons mercilessly. In fact, the guys who were doing
it the most were a couple of SMU's cheerleaders. A
couple of guys who are part of the cheerleading group,
and they were just relentless and they kept going and
they kept going and kept going, and finally and Texas
was comfortably ahead, but they were still riding him. Finally
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they get to a dead ball situation. Abe turns around
and he sees those two cheerleaders there and looks at
him and says, cheerleaders, huh, I'd rather have a daughter
in a whorehouse than a son for a cheerleader. And
the guy just shrank, sat down.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
There's nothing else that said.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
The rest of the way he had, he had all
kinds of sayings, no, no, no, he said. One time
he was in a in a bar after a game
back at the hotel, and the immortal Bill Little told
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me the story. And this was when Bill was doing
to play by play there in the late seventies, maybe
the year after they won the n I T or
something like that, and they were in they were in
a bar, and he was minding his own business and
and even those days, used to wear a helm's tooth
hat and he had this hat on and a lady
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approached them from the table, approached them at the table.
Ever sitting the reminder, there was a lady approached them,
and clearly she was, as they say in the trades,
a working girl. And she said she was just checking
to see if they were interested in some action or
something like that. And all he said was, what do
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you got in mind? And she said, wait a minute,
are you a cop? And he said, sure, am hook
And you ever heard of Sherlock Holmes? Tips his hat,
she turns and walks away. So he had a lot
of quotes.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
He had a lot of.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Quotes back in the day, did the late great Abe Lemons?
All right, we'll get to some other topics coming up,
and we continue on thirteen under the Zone. J Monahan
stepping down. Yeah, PGA Tour Commissioner. I thought that would
make it happy. Stepping down at the end of his
contract in twenty twenty six. He will transition the day
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to day responsibilities of running the PGA to the new CEO,
Brian is It roll ap rlapp roll apped.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
The statement released today the news release the tour said
Monahan would focus on his role as a member of
the PGA Tour and PGA Tour Enterprises boards during the
rest of his tenure. His statement was quote, a year ago,
I informed our boards and upon completing a decade as Commissioner,
I would step down from my role at the end
of twenty twenty six. Since then, we've worked together to
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identify a leader who can build on our momentum and
develop a process that ensures a smooth transition. We found
exactly the right leader in Brian Rolllap, and I'm excited
to support him as he transitions from the NFL into
his new role leading the PGA Tour. So yeah, roll
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App had had been with the NFL. So he's going
to serve as the CEO of both the PGA Tour
and PGA Tour enterprises. That's the for profit entite. It's
good to hear people say, yeah, this is the for
profit as opposed to the nonprofit. The tour said its
management team will report the roll aap, while he will
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report to the board of directors of both the pg
Tour and PGA Tour enterprises. He previously worked as the
NFL's Chief Media and Business Officer and was the lead
architect of the Median Business Playbook during a time when
the growth exploded. So they're thinking maybe that's kinda gonna happen.
So what do you make of that? First of all,
I know you never like J. Monahan, never liked me,
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so this must be happy that he's leaving.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, nothing against Jay as well, apparently quite a bit
as a human being. But okay, commissioner of the PJ Tour.
Not good. No, what has happened to the game of
golf is partially J Monahan's fault.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
There was the PGL at the doorstep, you know, trying
to knock down because the PJ Tour just thought, we're
the PGA Tour, we don't need the change. While you
have all these other leads of the NFL and NBA
adapting and embracing change and trying to connect to a
younger audience, the PJ Tour that we're fine, you know,
we're good. And then Tiger Woods, you know, reaches kind
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of the end of his career and all of a sudden,
you know, the popularity of golf maybe dips a little bit,
and the PJ Tour is grasping for air. And then
the idea of live comes around. The PGL comes around,
and they're trying to meet with the PGA Tour in
Monahan and mount of Hand is like, you know what,
We're good, We're not gonna change. And what happens The
Lift Golf Tour gets created and the game of golf
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gets fractured, and then we now we have all these
stupid things and stupid committees and stupid meetings and stupid
crap about the Saudi's and the PIF that has really
taken away from the game of golf. And we're finally
kind of getting a place now where it seems to
be okay. But a lot of this has to do
with Monahan refusing to you know, meet with other people
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outside the tour to embrace the idea of how can
we change the game of golf and make it more interesting?
Because let's be real, you know, the majors are great,
but the tournament's in between, you know, not.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Outside of the majors and maybe the Players Championship. It
certainly outside of the majors. It's a niche sport. Yeah,
really it's in terms of fan involvement. Now, I love it.
I love it, uh and and I will tell you this,
A lot of people say it's a great way to
uh spend a Sunday afternoon on the couch, taking a
nap when you have the golf on the background, because
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and I will admit that I've done that before too.
But I also grew up in a town that had
a PGA tour stop still does. It was back then
called the Greater Greensboro Open. I think now it's Windom
the Window Championship, yep. And I grew up going to it,
first when it was at Sedgefield, then at Forest Oaks.
Now of course it's back at Sedgefield, and so I
really enjoy I started going to it when I was
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eleven years old. And uh, I've always liked the PGA Tour,
but now, like you said, they've got challenges. The live
tour thing is a real challenge, and uh, you know,
supposedly they're working to come together, but I haven't seen
anything concrete, have you that says yes, by such and
such a date there's gonna be a merging or or
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a cooperative effort thing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I just I just heard a lot of talk, but
that was about it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
It's been a year, almost a year maybe a little
bit longer since they announced the merger with PIFF and
the PGA Tour, which I think was just a publicity
stunt at this point. But I think someone like Brian
Rolapp can come in and kind of get this done,
because one thing's for sure is golf's a better place
when we have the best players playing on the same circuit.
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And who knows what will happen with live But you know,
looking at at kind of his resume here, you know,
Rolap joined the NFL in two thousand and three. He
was considered to be a possible success for the Roger Goodell,
so he got along well with you know, owners and players,
but also you know, he has been part of the
NFL media rights that has ballooned, right, you know, it's
the most popular sport and God is all going anywhere?
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
No, He's he's quite comfortable making fifty million a year
that the owners are giving.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
So, you know, Rollaps seems to have been involved in
NFL kind of in taking the next step in their
media contracts, not just with you know, CBS and Fox,
but also ESPN in Amazon and NBC and now YouTube.
So we have an idea of how can we expand
NFL coverage And it's obviously the Super Bowls the most
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watched you know program every year in the country. So
you know, I think you can take that to the
game of golf and and you know, move it in
the right direction. Rex Rex Hoggard with Yahoo Sports. I
guess they're playing at Cromwell this week. The Travelers Championship,
the last signature event of the season.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Which when I was a kid, it was known as
the Sammy Davis Junior Greater Hertford Open.
Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
And Sammy would always show up there in the booth
and visit with Pat Summer all and you have a
cigarette going, man, it's great to have you here. And
and yeah, it was a Sammy Davis Junior Greater Hartford
Open at Weathersfield Country Club there in Connecticut. But now
it's the Travelers, which was always a big sponsor of
that event.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Anyway, big event, and Rollap met with the players either
today or yesterday, and an anonymous quote coming from that
meeting was I normally leave these meetings pretty bored and
not very inspired, but after that one, I was like, heck, yeah,
I was fired up, so't I don't. We haven't heard
a quote from that from a J Monahan meeting ever,
So you know, hopefully this is in the right direction.
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But you know, I think most golf fans, even players,
just how can we get you know, the Live Golf
guys and the PJ Tour golf guys kind of in
the same league, even if it's not going to be
every week, but you know, more regularly than we have now,
which is only basically four weeks out of the year
when it comes to the major championships. So we'll see
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the game is in an absolute mess. But we have seen,
like you know, last week at the US Open with
JJ spond winning, you had guys like Drell Hatton who
plays on the Live Golf Tour and you know he's competing.
Obviously the draw that that Bryson brings. You know, Bryson
came close to winning at the Gusta this year, at
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PJ at Quail, he won the US Open and Pine
Or so you know, it works out well. And when
the Ryder Ryder Cup happens this season, there's going to
be some Live golf guys playing in the Ryder Cup,
including Bryson and probably Terrell Haddon. So one thing's for
sure is you got to find out way to get
this out on the same page. And for whatever reason,
Jay Monahan didn't seem that thrilled or that interested in
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fixing this, because he's been very anti live and very
anti you know, detraction since the whole Live Golf League
was announced. And again, this whole thing probably could have
been avoided at a certain point, but it wasn't, and
here we are, and it's a move that's probably a
couple of years too late, but it is getting done.
Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
He Monahan I'm talking about he always preferred to whenever
the subject of live the live to or came up,
he always preferred to defer and let others talk about that,
like Roy McElroy, yeah yeah, or Jordan Speed right yeah,
or you can't Tiger Tiger Yeah. He used to say
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that they just wanted to let the membership, the body
of it speak, which always found puzzling because if there
was anything else I had to do with the PGA,
then he was going to be out there and speaking
about it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah. It's like, you know, imagining with all the concussions
that that was happening, the blowback, and you know, Roger
Goodell did speak, But imagine if Goodell was like, you
know what, we're gonna throw Tom Brady out there and
he's going to let the media pick him apart every
week because remember for the most part during the whole
you know, breakup the PGA Tour and the liv Golf Tour,
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Roy McRoy actually was speaking to the media, even though
he doesn't do it now so much, but you know,
you think about it, he would have at least a
press conference before the round and then he would speak
all four days after each round, So that's five times
a week. Guys like Roy McRoy and Jordan Speedth and
Scottie Scheffler and Cantley and Tiger are having the answer
questions on behalf of the PGA Tour. Well, j Monahan
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does like one two press conferenferences a year. Yeah, that's it.
It was. It was so poorly handled, and it's why
he lost the support of a lot of players and
a lot of a lot of media members. Again, he's
you know, he might be a nice guy, but in
terms of you know, being the right person to advance
the game of golf, I don't think so. I don't
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think that was it. And it's a move that you know,
hopefully Rollout is the right guy for it, and you know,
based off what he's able to do with the NFL,
I think so. I mean you're not considered to be
the possible successor for Goodell if you don't know what
you're doing here. So, yeah, do you know who I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Is there a specific appointed with the title commissioner Commissioner
of Live Golf is.
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
It's it's changed around a few times. It's technically the
Live Golf CEO, which used to be Greg Norman. Now
it's Scott O'Neill who joined earlier this season. Yeah, he's
considered the new chief executive officer of the company. I
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think at one point he was actually with the USGA,
so he kind of took over for Greg Norman because
no one wanted to be in a meeting with Greg
Norman anymore. So we'll see. It's it's become way too
business like chem of Golf in my opinion. But Scott
O'Neill and Brian roll Up, who apparently do have some
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history and not in a good way, we'll have to
work together at some point. Really not good. Okay, all right,
We've got a couple other things we'll get to. By
the way.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Updating the College World Series game, it is now in
the bottom of the eighth inning and Louisville is still
leading Oregon State. It's six to three now the Cardinals
in the bottom of it looks like Louisville's going to
be on the verge of eliminating Oregon State. Oregon State
of course play as an independent this year, what with
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the dissolution of the Back twelve, or at least the
temporary dissolution of the PAC twelve, with USC, UCLA, Oregon,
and Washington all defecting to the Big Ten, Arizona and
Arizona State then getting in an escape pod and going
off to the Big twelve, and Colorado and Utah also
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going to the Big twelve. So it left only Oregon
State and Washington State in the PAC twelve. But the
PAC twelve is turned around and is reconstituting itself now
and rebuilding, and so they have not and for folks
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who don't know, they have to have eight football playing
members to be eligible for things like the College Football
Playoff and stuff like that, and they're at eight members,
but only seven play football this starting next year, and
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I guess it's starting in twenty six twenty seven, so
Gonzaga is one of the members in there, but Gonzaga
has played football, So you have seven football playing institutions
at the moment Oregon State, Washington State, Colorado State, Boise State,
Fresno State, Utah State, and San Jose State.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
That's seven.
Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
They have to get one more, and the heavy duty
rumor is it's going to be Texas State. If it's
going to be Texas State, one would imagine that you
would hear an announcement very soon, if not by the
end of this week, certainly by the end of the
following week that would end on Friday to the twenty seventh.
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The reason why I say that is because Texas States
buyout to get out of the Sun Belt Conference is
five million dollars if it's for July. If it's before
July first, so if it's after July, vers it jumps
to ten million. So if Texas State is to leave
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the Sun Belt for the PAC twelve and they're still
going to keep the name PAC twelve even with eight members,
it'd be nine for basketball and other sports we can
zag in there, but eight for football. And if they're
going to do that, it would behoove them to make
that announcement, to make that move by if not by
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the end of this week, certainly by the end of
next week. Because once you get beyond June thirtieth, it
jumps for the exit feed from five million to ten million.
So I think we're probably we're going to hear that
Texas State is going to be the eighth football playing
institution in the ninth overall member of the rebuilt PAC
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twelve conference coming up, and then there's some other movement
with some other conference with the schools. I think what
Louisiana Tech is expected to jump to the Sun Belt
coming off Conference USA, that they're expected to jump into
the Sun Belt.
Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
So we'll see how all that goes. I can't stop
thinking about the contrasts of Boise State's blue field with
Texas State's maroon and gold and white uniforms on it
for a conference game come November of twenty twenty seven.
Well that's a good point. It's conference. Yeah, I mean
think about this.
Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
You have conference games, like you said, between Boise State
or Washington State and Texas State as a conference game.
Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
In Zaga and Texas State playing each other in.
Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Basketball, imagine and Zaga playing at Strand Arena.
Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
How about that? And yeah, you would have that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
You'd at Oregon State playing Texas State and baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
You'll be fun seriously.
Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Yeah, Now, if you can, if you can envision, if
you're able to envision USC playing Rutgers in a conference game,
which is real in the Big Ten, Ucla and Maryland
in a conference game, which is real in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
If you can envision that Stanford first Clemson, Stanford against
Clemson in an ACC game? How about cal and Boston
College in an ACC game? You know I still have
and this happened several years ago. I still wind up
on the mailing list of two ACC schools. Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
One is Georgia Tech because Texas played Georgia Tech in
women's basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
This is when Gail Guestingcourse was coaching.
Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
This was around two thousand and nine, and Texas played
Georgia Tech and they played them in a tournament in
Boca return, Florida. It was down to Florida Atlantic was
the event. Texas played Georgia Tech and then Florida Atlantic
played somebody else and they put Texas in Georgia Tech,
the bigger schools in the in the head to head
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game and Texas won and then they played Florida fau
Florida Atlantic beat somebody wasn't very good or whatever it
to beat up in the other gay and so they
played him in the final. But when I was trying
to get information on the basketball team, somehow I wound
up on the Georgia Tech list, like you know, season
ticket offers and all this kind of stuff, And I've
never responded a couple of times try to get off
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the mailing list. Never have same story with Stanford because
it happened when I was trying to get information on
Stanford before baseball game several years ago. It wasn't the
Super Regional a couple years ago Bett it was on back.
So I've wound up on both Stanford and Georgia Tech's
email list. And today today, Cameron Parker, I got an
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email from Stanford Athletics with a with a picked package
of tickets for home football games. You pick one of
two opponents, and one of them was Notre Dame, and
then then you pick two from another list, and on
the other list, Boston College and pitt were on that list,
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and those are conference games in the ACC. Keep that
in mind. We'll continue here on thirteen unt of the zone.
I go through sunglasses pretty easy. Life expectancy with a
pair of sunglasses for me is about three weeks really
have that, especially when they get on vacation and wear
them and leave them around. You know, even the reading
glasses have readers.
Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
I have. This is the actual truth.
Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
I carry one pair on me on my person like
I'm a pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I have that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I have an emergency pair in my bag in case
I need them. I have a pair in the truck
just for if I need them, you know, driving or
something they have to see something, they stay in the truck.
I have a pair that sits on my desks desk
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table at the houseware work, and I have a pair
right some my bed, so you know, there's always a
pair within arm's reach. And invariably what I end up
doing is like four or five pair wine up stuck
in my pockets or whatever. But I mean, you know,
I try to remember, you know, keep them the way
they keep them, separate from it. And those are just
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the regular, the regular pairs. And my wife is certainly
one of the queens of being able to find deals
through Amazon ford for cheap. She got me six pairs,
six pairs of reading glasses at the level I need,
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and a pair of reading glasses that are shaded like
reading sunglasses for nineteen nine six. Fuck, so not even
it doesn't even make any sense to try to go back,
because I did the whole thing, the eye doctor stuff.
I had the four hundred dollars prescription readers and I
only need it for reading. That's my distance vision is
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really really good, but it's the up close reading. They're
in the top of the ninth Oregon State, as they
have invariably done throughout the course of the year, not
giving enough. They're got a lead off homer from Iva Arquette.
What a great college player he is, and he's going
to be drafted pretty high.
Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yep. Native of Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
He's batting three twenty five overall in the postseason, He's
fourteen for forty three and he has six postseason home runs.
Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
That includes regional and Super regional.
Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
After that, a base hit has followed and a wild pitch.
So Oregon State is the tying run at the plate,
and they have a runner at second base on a
wild pitch with nobody out.
Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
It's Gavin Turley is the runner at second base.
Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Say not giving up yet, Beaver's not not giving up yet.
They went into the bottom of the night down six
to three and out six to four, and yeah, we'll see,
we'll see, all right, complete this sentence for me, Cameron,
the most desirable free agent in the NBA at the
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conclusion of this season will be.
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
So, is this like unrestricted or restricted? Because that's always
you know, could change the answer because technically Lebron James
should be a free agent. But is this unrestricted?
Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Let's do both. Let's do both. Start with unrestricted. Who
is who is the most desirable unrestricted free agent out there?
Who is going to be the most desirable unrestricted free
agent out there?
Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I'm looking up the list right now unrestricted free agent?
Shoot is it might be Miles Turner based off this
the list I have. Okay, Okay, I'm guessing there's a
bigger name. But based off you know, player options and
team options and all kinds off, it.
Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Could well and and the other thing that goes into
max and near max super max contract. Guys like James Harden, uh,
Kyrie Irving, uh Fred Van Vliet another one.
Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
All those guys have have player options. They have player options.
So that's that's why I bring up there. Okay, So
if ever doing player options, like let's just say one
of those guys opts out, I would say Kyrie, but
I don't. I think Kyrie is going to stay in Dallas, right,
Lebron's gonna stay in Los Angeles. I think Harden's going
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to stay in Los Angeles. He wants to be there.
They're the biggest question, Marcus Jewish Randall because he had
a really good first two rounds of the playoffs and
then he had a really bad third round in the playoffs. Right,
if you're Minnesota, do you want to stick with him?
Because he decided to opt in Miles Turner also on
that list, he is he does not have a player option.
He would be an unrestricted free agent and really good
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in games one and two. He's been okay in games three, four,
and five for Indiana. Doris Burg kind of went to
begin the broadcast last night like Molestern needs to have
a big game and did not have it.
Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Let me throw two other names at you get Josh
Giddy and NOAs Reed.
Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
See I love nas Reed. I'm a big nose Reed fan. Now,
you know, he former six Men of the Year, sixth
player of the year, whatever it's called, comes off the bench.
You know. He kind of alluded to after they lost
to Okay see the Western Finals that he is someone
that wants to be on a starting role and maybe
Minnesota will ran him that. Now that's a big part
of this because they have three players who have player
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options and one that'll be a free agent Randall and
nas Reed. The third guy is Nakila Alexander Walker, who
will be an unrestricted free agent. They can only sign
two of those guys. I think nas Reed and Alexander
Walker are better than Julius Randall, but of course they're
going to get a lot more money than they probably
want to pay him. So nas Reed, I think, is
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someone that if a contender, like I'm trying to think
of someone who has who has cap space. Like if
san Antonio was like, you know what we want to win. Now,
we're going to trade for Kevin Durant. We're gonna sign
nas Reed. That's someone that could have a really big
impact on a team. Now, if I'm Minnesota, I'm trying
to keep nas Reed and Alexander Walker. But we'll see
(01:22:48):
what they do. A big nas Reed van over here.
Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Would you offer a mid level exception to any of
these guys? The Angela Russell No, Cam Thomas yes, Malik
Beasley mm.
Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah, Brook Lopez if I'm if I if I'm lost,
if I'm the Lakers, Yeah, because I need a big man.
If I'm anybody else know, Trey Jones yeahpguing out with
what's your backcourt death? Maybe John Collins, No, I'm good
(01:23:25):
on John al Horford mh A my contender here like
the Lakers. Yeah, yeah, maybe Kevin Porter Junior No, Quinton
Grimes m no.
Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Kros Lavert mm hmm yeah like Lavert, Bobby Portos, Yeah,
Clint Capella again kind.
Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Of like a Laker team. He fits for the Lakers
really well. And forty year old Chris Paul Yeah, no
one CP three, But again it you know, it kind
of depends on what roster you have there. Okay, what
you what you're what you're looking for, what's your depth
and kind of where are you at in terms of
your week? Are we trying to win a championship, are
we trying to make the playoffs? Or are you just
taking here?
Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
All right, We'll be back to wrap up today's program
on thirteen under the Zone
Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm thirteen hunder the Zone. My name is Craig Way,
glad to have you with us. US includes the producer
Cameron de Parker. The D on the Versatific does officially
Stanford Dallas, although there seems to be some ambiguity when
he last checked with his folks about how there was
kind of a groundswell movement to instead of calling him
(00:24):
Dallas is the middle name, but going with Austin, but
then went had upon Dallas Dallas and that was the
name of his father's favorite pro football team in Cameron's
as well, even though he doesn't really he kind of
has disavowed.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Them for the time being.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But he's here and I know this. This won't be
like last week where he was so down in the
mouth with all the return.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Cuts and all the amusing stuff. He's depressed.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, no, no, Cameron's favorite NBA team is one win
away from its first NBA World Championship.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
He had we'll watched it last night. He has to
be happy about that was some good afternoon, And am
I right? Good afternoon, Craig. And yes, the D stands
for dub as in Jada Jalen Williams forty points last night.
He was spectacular in that victory for OKC, And you
mentioned the Game one loss. Of course, Tyre's Halliburton with
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another rabbit out of a hat trick at the very
end to cap off an incredible Pacers comeback, like many
they have come back so far in this postseason, Halliburton
getting it done and postgame with least assaulters on ESPN,
Jada basically said, this was exactly like Game one, except
that we closed the game and we didn't in Game one.
So for OKC, now just one game away from winning
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their first ever NBA championship in Oklahoma City. Of course,
the SuperSonics when.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Time seventy Unions nineteen seventy nine beat the Bullets Washington
now known as the Wizards, beat him in five games,
four games to one.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But that was kind of your typical OKC victory. I mean,
they come out in the first quarter in Indiana, had
like six seven turnovers in the first quarter, looked awful.
Haliburton has the calf hamstring injury early in the first quarter.
He wasn't really doing anything before that injury and definitely
didn't do anything after Cyril Viille Golds in the game.
(02:19):
He played thirty four minutes, he played through it, he
left it and came back in. But okay C's defense
was just so stifling. Aaron Wiggins had a monster second
quarter to give OKAC double digit lead. He's been he's
been so huge for the Thunder in this postseason run.
And then in the third quarter, hats off to Indiana,
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okay see. I felt like they should have led by
probably twenty twenty five at halftime. Indiana was just kind
of hanging in there like Game one. And teach him.
McConnell hoff the bench. I think he had like sixteen
points in fifteen minutes at one point in the third quarter,
got it down to an eight point game, and Indiana
actually had it to a two point gave the fourth
quarter nine ninety three, and then okay see just flipped
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the switch defensively. I mean there was a period where
they forced I think five turnovers in like six or
seven possessions for Indiana. Dort hit a couple huge three
pointers in the fourth got a bang call out on
Mike Green. Jadub with some huge buckets, as as did
Shay Yeldas Alexander the MVP and okay see just bowled away.
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It was a huge win for Indiana, just fell apart
kind of offensively. And I made the comparison on Twitter
last night from of course, where the US opened this
past weekend and Oakmont considered maybe one of the hardest
golf courses in the world in you know, watching the
turmoil on Sunday, it felt like a golf course that
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those PJ pros, the best players in the world, did
not want to play. They looked miserable, and Indiana offensively
matching up against Okac's defense in the fourth quarter, they
looked miserable. So my comparison on Twitter was, is Okayc's
defense the equivalent of the Oakmont Country Club and US
Open positions? Because I don't think either the pacers or
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the golfers outside of JJ spawn enjoyed playing either either
last night or this past Sunday. But a huge win
for okay C JDub in shape just setting all kinds
of records that the first I think first teammates to
have over forty and thirty points I think multiple times
since Kyrie and Lebron did it in twenty sixteen. So
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what an impressive effort. And now game six Thursday night
at Indiana, and you know, we wait the status of
Tyree's Halliburton. The latest that came out from Sham's oft
des bans that they believe he has a strained right
calf and will undergo an MRI to determine the severity
of it. So can't imagine he does not play on Thursday.
But this certainly does change the dynamic of the series unfortunately.
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But and you know, a lot of a lot of
what goes into winning a championship, Craig, as you will
know in any sport is injury looking. Can you just
stay healthy? And so far, okay See has stayed pretty healthy,
and it looks like Indiana suffering a big blow to
their NBA title chances with Halliburton's injury and losing now
back to back game for the first time Indiana has
lost back to back games in the playoffs. And now,
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okay see a chance to capture it Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know, if if Halliburton isn't and I mean say
that he has to be one hundred percent, but if
he is not effective enough, they've they've got no chance
and the thunder will wrap it up in six games.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
He'll finish it off, uh.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
In six And you and you said before this series started, Uh,
you said you thought the thunder would take it and
you said five or six games. Uh, it hasn't gone
exactly like you thought it was because it's been a
tougher ride for them. But here they are still in
position to finish off in six games if they win.
So uh, it's but but if Haliburton isn't I'm not
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gonna say he has to be one hundred percent, but
probably eighty. I think he's got to be a lot
better than what he was physically.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And then and then the other guys who have contributed
throughout the course of this you know postseason are gonna
have to because this first time Indiana trail in a
postseason series this year, and how they respond. Of course,
they are back home, but they had a golden opportunity
the other night to take a three to two lead
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into Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Just like in the NHL Stanley Cup Finals, Edmonton had
a golden opportunity to go up three to.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Two by winning on home ice. They couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Florida beat them the other night, and now tonight the
Florida Panthers have a chance to go back to back
in terms of Stanley Cupps by getting back to back
wins over Edmondson. This one be on their home ice.
I would tell you this, and I think the Panthers
know this. Don't waste this opportunity, because if you drop
game six at home. First of all, game sevens are
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what they are, whether it's home ar on the road,
but especially if you've got to try to win a
game seven on the road. So and Florida's already done
that in the postseason, they did it at Toronto. But
even so, Edmonton is, as the old saying goes, they're
kind of like vampires.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You know, you don't you don't want to kill them off.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I still think Florida will probably win it tonight and
handle their business. But if they don't, look out, all
bets are off game seven. And I would also say that,
you know, obviously they can finish the job. Oklahoma City
can finish the job. If they don't, they do have
their home floor for Game seven, so they kind of
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have that, you know, and the ace in the hole,
so to speak. Even though Indiana's proven they can win it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, see who do you think, Well, which fan base
do you think? Well, let me go back, which team
you think has a better chance of Game six? Indiana
without without a healthy Aliburton or Edmonton on the road
against Florida.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm gonna say Edmonton. They've already won once in South Florida.
The NHL more than any other pro sports league. For
whatever reason, more road teams win playoff games in the
NHL than in any other league.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know why. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Home ice does not mean to the NHL, what home
court does to the NBA, what home field can do
in the NFL playoffs, and even in Major League Baseball playoffs,
you know, the dimensions are different in the ballpark if
the team is built more for pitching and hitting, depending
on the size of the ballpark they play in. In
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the NFL, clearly, when you get to the playoffs, you're
talking about weather, weather related issues. And if you're in
a place like Kansas City or Buffalo where it's just
you know, absolutely frigid, Green Bay, New England. You know,
historically those place it's a lot more difficult to win
in those environs than to say, to win in a
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dome or in South Florida. It's it's harder to win
in those cold weather environments in those things than is otherwise.
So I would in this instance, I would say, and
then so he said, well, wait a minute, Indiana would
be at home. But if Haliburton, he's the X factor,
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and if he's not, I'd say he's the X factor.
He's the front line guy, even more so than the
X factor. X factor might be a guy like Kneesmith
or somebody like that, but but it's he's a headline player.
They've got to have him being able to go as
close to full till as possible. Even if he isn't
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one hundred percent, he's got a you know, he's got
a play like it or close to it, because without
that kind of effort in production, I don't think they have.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
A shot one hundred percent. And it's not just his scoring,
it's his ability to play make and set up teammates.
And last night when he was out there, you know,
he wasn't really moving the ball around. He kind of
would get a one on one situation and he would
try and get separation. You could tell he wasn't one
hundred percent, and then it would lead to a turnover,
he would just pass it to a teammate with you know,
like five seconds in the shot clock. And that's not
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how Indiana wants to operate. They want to move the
ball quickly and move with pace and get you know,
shots up within five to seven seconds. And the offense
look completely different with Halliburn out there. It's they're in
that third quarter, run Craig, it was TJ. McConnell. Haliburton
was on the bench. It was McConnell because he was
getting into the payton putting up shots quickly. And Indiana
lost that in the fourth quarter against the case C.
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So I think I agreed I would go to Edmonton
with a better chance of winning a game six than Indiana.
But well, you know, we'll see Wayne Tyres Haliburton, can
you know, come off and pull out a with Walt
Fraser type performance Willis Reed. Willis Reed type performed.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Same team, same NBA Finals, nineteen seventy. And it's funny
that she said Walt Fraser because even though Willis Reid
gave them all and what we're talking about is Game
seven NBA Finals, Lakers and Knicks and Madison Square Garden,
they didn't think Willis REI, the center is gonna be
able to go, and then he suited up. He hobbled
out there on the floor, and the place went crazy,
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and the Knicks got all fired up and ended up
beating the Lakers to win their first NBA World title.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That was nineteen seventy and even.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The Red provided them the emotional inspiration and they got
juiced up and fired up. The guy who really had
the production in the game was Walt Fraser. He had
the huge game, and the Knicks won the title and
they beat Will Chamberlain and Jerry West and the Lakers.
They won it in seven games. The next year, a
very young Milwaukee Bucks team, one of the youngest teams
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in NBA history to win a title, did so by
sweeping the then Baltimore Bullets, who then became the Capitol Bullets,
played at the Cap Center in Landover. Then they were
the Washington Bullets before now being known as Washington Wizards.
But that was a very young team, much like this
Oklahoma City team, which is the second youngest. I think
Milwaukee is the third or fourth youngest. They had a
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very young Kareem abdul Jabbar in nineteen seventy one, in fact,
if he's still going by the name lu Al Sindor officially,
but he had already religiously changed his name to Kareem
Abdul Jabbar, and then the next year, I think seventy
one seventy two is when he went full on and
just changed his name and everything. But in seventy one,
the Bucks had a very young team. The age total
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was skewed a little bit by Oscar Robertson because they
made a trade with Cincinnati, the old Cincinnati Royals, to
get him before the start of the year, and it
kind of skewed the age. But otherwise they had a
very young team and went on and won the NBA Finals. Well,
this Oklahoma City team is the second youngest team to
play in the NBA Finals. The youngest ever to win
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it was the nineteen seventy seven Portland Trailblazers that had
a twenty four year old Bill Walton, that had a
twenty I think a twenty four year old or twenty
three year old Maurice Lucas. It was a very young
team and they spotted the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, a
heavily favored Sixers team, a two games to none. Lead
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and swept the next four games and won the NBA title.
And so this team that Oklahoma City is trying to
pull through to win its first NBA title is second
only to that Portland team of seventy seven in terms
of its youth. It is the second youngest team, and
by the way, to this day, that's the only Portland
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team that's ever won an NBA title. They got into
the finals a couple of times against the Pistons and
then against Michael Jordan's Bulls, but never won another one.
UH and they've and they've won. They've won that one
in nineteen seventy seven. So we'll see how the thunder
do on that. All right, We've got some other things
to get to, some NCAA notes and transfer portal things
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and stuff like that. College World Series is going on.
They had to finish a game they could not finish
last night because of thunderstorms in Omaha.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That game is in the books.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That was a winners bracking game, and the loser of
that game is not gonna have to turn around and
play tonight against the uh against the loser of a
game that's going on. Actually, there's a there's another elimination
game that's going on right now between Oregon State and Louisville,
and we'll get you updated on all that, and we'll
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also direct ourselves to your questions, your thoughts, your comments.
All you have to do is text the word Texas
followed by your question or comment to eight one, five
three zero, So text the word College World Series is
going on right now. There's an elimination game going on
in Omaha and they are in the going to the
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bottom of the second inning, Louisville and Oregon State meeting
for the second time. Louisville's already won one elimination game,
they knocked out Arizona, and now they're playing in Arizona
Oregon State, who had been beaten on Sunday by Coastal Carolina.
And right now Louisville leads at one nothing, going to
the bottom of the second inning.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Again, that's an elimination game.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The winner of that game will have to beat Coastal
Carolina twice to get to the national Championship.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I have to beat on Wednesday and then Thursday in
order to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Now, they got behind a little bit, and this does
happen in Omaha on occasion. They did get behind because
of weather. They had severe thunderstorms rolled through the area
last night. Now this was after yesterday where he had
the no hitter for Gauge Wood of Arkansas in elimination
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game when he no hit Murray State only allowed one
base runner on a hit batter struck out nineteen, a
nine inning College World Series record, and Arkansas won three nothing.
So Arkansas advanced to play tonight in another elimination game. Now,
they were supposed to play the winner of last night's
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winners bracket game between LSU and UCLA, but it was
four to three in the second inning and the skies
opened up in Omaha and they had to stop the
game and couldn't finish it. So they picked it up
this morning and LSU won it over UCLA nine to five.
It was UCLA's first loss in this NCAA postseason. They
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swept through the regional, they swept through the superregional, swept
UTSA in the Superregional, and then won their first game
beating Murray State, but then lost to LSU last night
nine to five. So LSU is in the same boat
that LSU is in the same boat that Coastal Carolina is.
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They only need one more win to advance the National
Championship Series. So because they had to carry the game
over and finish it today, UCLA loses, they have to
turn around and play tonight at six o'clock, so it's
kind of a day night double header thing, and they
have to play Arkansas in the elimination game tonight, and
then the winner of that is going to have to
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beat LSU twice, once tomorrow and then once on Thursday
to try to reach the National Championship Game. But again
it's one nothing Louisville leading Oregon State in their elimination game.
Winner of that, the loser is done for the year.
The winner is going to have to beat Coastal Carolina twice.
So that's where that is right now. And then there's
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some other things that we've got to get to as well.
Major League Baseball, So we should go to this big
night for you. Last night, well, the team I root
for obviously, there was a lot focused on them, and
then there's usually a lot focused on the Dodgers anyway,
and especially if you're a the Fitning World champion. But
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Choe Otani went to the pitchers Mount last night for
the first time as a Dodgers. The first time he
pitched in a game since August of twenty twenty three,
nearly two calendar years ago he had Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So he's been hitting, and we know how good he
is at that.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Last year became the first ever fifty to fifty man
in baseball history. Fifty home runs, fifty stolen bases. He
won't steal fifty bases this year. Could it possibly fifty
home runs? He's got twenty five. He's halfway there right now.
We're not even at the halfway point of the season,
so he could theoretically do that. But there are those
who feel that once he returns from the mound to
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pitch full time, it'll probably drop off a little bit. Well,
last night was the first game that he got into
as a pitcher for the Dodgers, first time he pitched
since he was with the Angels two years ago, and
it was scheduled to be a short outing. Dave Roberts
said they didn't want him going over thirty pitches anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
He pitched eight through twenty eight pitches.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Now, they were all in the first inning, and he
did give up a run to the San Diego Padres,
and he was trailing one to nothing, but the Dodgers
came back, doing large measure to his efforts at the plate.
He drove in two runs, he had a double, he
had a single, drove in a couple of runs, scored
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a run. The Dodgers ended up coming back and winning
the game six to three over San Diego. He did
not factor in the decision, however, and this is one
of those weird quirks that you have in baseball. I
did find it interesting because this hasn't happened in the
Major League since pitchers were hitting, so it would have
been pre pandemic, and I'd be curious to see how
many times that it might have happened in twenty nineteen
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in the National League when pitchers were still hitting. And
my gut feeling is that it rare happened, if at all.
But he took himself off the hook. He no decision
to himself because he was behind one to nothing. Otani
was because the Dodgers were trailing, and if San Diego
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gone on to get the win and not surrendered to lead,
O'tanny would have taken a loss. Well, that didn't happen.
The Dodgers tied it, went on and won. He didn't
get the win. He only pitched that one inning, but
he did take himself off the hook for the loss.
He had the RBI single to drive in a run,
and then Max Buntz he had won to drive in
two more runs. But he took himself off the hook
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with that, and he threw, like I said, twenty eight pitches.
I believe seventeen of the twenty eight were at ninety
five miles per hour or faster.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He topped out.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
He went over one hundred I think three times, including
one hundred point two at one, and was in the
upper nineties quite a bit, so.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
He had to velo.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
He didn't quite have the control yet. He throws a fastball,
a slider, and he throws a bit of a sweeper,
and Manny Machada was quoted as saying, when he's really
good is when he's got that sweeper working. And I
saw it one time, get a guy to swing and
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miss one. He didn't have any strikeouts and he didn't
have any walks, but anyway, it was it was yeah,
it was much ado. There was a lot of hullabaloo
about him coming back, but it felt pretty good about him.
They wanted to see how he felt today. We've seen
no reports that indicate that he doesn't feel all right,
and if he does feel okay, he'll probably go again
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in the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Next seven to eight days.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
So yeah, I think it gives Dodger fan's excitement because
they've been running with two bullpen games recently. They're supposed
to get him at Cheann back. They could get Blake
Snell back within a week, which would which would obviously
help him.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Hey, he touched went on. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah,
show you look pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So if they get him into the rotation, fine, and
they're transferring Ben Casparius into the rotation. He came on
after Rotani did last night and wound up getting the
wind did Caspirius. But I know a lot of folks
are excited about seeing what he can do because he's
just an amazing specimen of a person with what he
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can do, and he's quite the athlete.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's fun to watch. He makes the sport. Yeah, fun
the watch absolutely all right.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Up next, we have Inconceivable here on a Tuesday afternoon
on thirteen under the Zone, hour number two.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Here on thirteen under the.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Zone, Craig Wage joined by the producer Cameron Parker, glad
to have you with us. We're with you up till
five o'clock this afternoon and here throughout the course of
this week.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now, CAM will be out Thursday. In Frinday, You've got
like some.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Massive family family reunion thing happening at the I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Say it's a massive family reunion thing, but yeah, people
coming in town this weekend. So no Thursday or Friday.
And then next week begins the craig Way sabbatical, well
like three years.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, Friday, as always, I will actually be here through
Wednesday of next week.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
We'll bring in the show through Wednesday and then.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And then I'll be out for the next two weeks
in a couple of days leading into SEC Media Days
at the annual trip to North Carolina, because as folks know,
it's really and truly about the only time I really can't.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Take vacation there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It falls between the end of the college baseball season
and the first sign posts of the football season to come,
and that includes obviously SEC Football Media Days and then
the Texas High School Coaches Association's annual coaching school and convention.
You realize the High School Coaches a Sociation in Texas
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which for years has been the largest of its kind
in the world, now numbers twenty eight thousand members. They're
twenty eight thousand coaches of the Texas High School Coach Association.
So their annual coaching school as they call it, and
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their convention takes place.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's in San Antonio.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It'll be at the end of July, and I'll be
down there because I amc a couple of events for them,
their Hall of Honor banquet, which is, you know, one
of the highlight moments when they induct new coaches going
in or new members of their Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And then the other thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Which is something I really enjoy doing, and I've done
it for over twenty years now. I think the first
year we started was two thousand and three, so this
will be the twenty third of that. And this includes,
by the way, the pandemic. We did that in a
creative way, which I'll tell you about a moment. But
what it is is there's a panel discussion of featuring
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on one stage all at the same time every Division
one FBS football head coach in the state of Texas.
I'll think about that for a minute. Every Division one
FBS football coach. There are thirteen Division one FBS programs
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Division one. How many of those thirteen can you just
name off the top of you? Heread camp. Let's see
if we can get to you through all thirteen, Phil Ango, Well,
you don't have to name the coaches. I'm just saying
the programs. Phil Longo is the new head coach at
Sam Houston, though you are correct, just named the programs.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
There are thirteen Division one FBS football programs in the
state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
How many can you name? A right, Sam Houston?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You just name there so long, I'll go Texas, Texas
A and M yep, Texas Tech yep, baylorp SM, you
t C U, is U, t r g V going
to be there.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
No, because they're gonna be f c s when they
check in. These are in state. Yes, I thought they transitioned.
They had to transition from Division two to Division one
f c s.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So rice yep? Did did I already say? S m U?
You did? Okay? So that's eight. That's a. Texas State
is nine. That's nine, oh utep, cel Passo is ten.
Let's see, one's pretty close to your not far incarnate words.
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Same town, same town, who's in San Antonio U s
A eleven eleven, got more and more, University of Houston
that's twelve and then hm oh, this is fun. Okay,
trying to remember Dallas. I already got s m U
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already hat TC. I already said Texas State. Is it
in Houston Houston area? No, northern.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
The keyword there is north North, oh North Texas about
to disappointment, disappointment there anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
A football program.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
He forgot. They've been going to bowl games pretty regularly.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Everyone goes to ball games. That's a good point, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So there's thirteen Division one FBS college football programs and
all of the head coaches who are pretty much there
anyway because it's coaching School and the Coaching Convention, A
lot of them are speaking. Sark Is doing a lot
of He is a keynote speaker for one of their
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main events. But all thirteen of those coaches on the
Sunday afternoon, the opening weekend of coaching School, and coaching
School runs from like Saturday, which would be the nineteenth
I guess through Tuesday. I guess, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesdays
four days, I guess, and they get all thirteen of
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them up there on one stage for an hour, and
they hand me a microphone and they say, go. What
it basically is is is one hour of hearing from
these coaches. I pose questions to them and they all answer,
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and they've all they've down through the years, they've all
been really good. We only had a couple of times,
like one year. I'm not saying there's anything connected to this, Cameron,
but the one year that Jimbo Fisher skipped it was
his last year as head coach at Texas A and
he's just saying, so.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
If anyone skips it this year, then go ahead and
go to Fandel and put some money on that coach
being fired. Mike Leach skipped it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He only he actually even came to it his first
couple of years and they just stopped coming. But I
mean they come all the way from UTEP like you
mentioned in North Texas and all this sort of things.
So and it's basically questions that the high school coach.
We have a full room. There's about nine hundred high
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school football coaches in the room, and they want to
hear these coach coaches address questions like early signing days
and transfer Portal and in IL and all of those things.
And these coaches, they're up there in front of their constituency,
the ones from whom they draw their recruiting bases. So
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they're they're pretty plain spoken about it. It's it's really good.
It's it's good stuff. They're very good. So anyway, we
do that for an hour. So I actually had a
meeting in San Marcos this morning with the leadership down there.
And I always enjoy coaching school and all that. They
used to have the All Star Games, which were great,
and I did those on TV and even some on
radio over the year, and those were wonderful events high
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school football. It was the official real high school football
and basketball all star games, and it was the last
time guys who had put on a high school football
uniform before either going off to college or not playing anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And there were some great games.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
The last one we did was the eightieth one all
time because it started I think like in nineteen thirty five,
and it was it was in San Antonio and the Alamodome,
and there have been some great ones over the years,
but ultimately the NCAAA shut it down because they said
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it would be an unfair recruiting advantage for somebody, for
one of those student athletes who didn't have a college
scholarship to do that right, And then we're being real here,
the one by the end of July. If you don't
have a college football offer six weeks real really a
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week before practice starts, chances are you're not going to
be playing college football or not planning to. So it's
kind of silly what they did did that They had
a football and a basketball all star game and it
was great and I enjoyed working.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Those, but those haven't been around.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think twenty twelve is the last one of those
we did, so that's unfortunate because they were great.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
They were really really cool.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
But coaching school itself is next month, and like I said,
it'll be right after SEC Football Media Days. These are
all these sign post events that are mentioned that you
know that football is just.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Around the corner.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
The first, the first of those signpost events is coming
very soon, and that is the release of Dave Campbells
Texas Football Magazine. Now next week, Greg Chepper, the editor
in chief of the magazine, will join us on the
program to talk about the magazine, to talk about being
the selection for being on the cover to talk about
what's new about the magazine. But the magazine is not
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on the shelves yet. It's not hit the newsstands. It's
not in Walmart or Barnes and Noble or whatever. Right now,
it's not It hasn't even gone out to the subscriber
list yet. There were some interesting printing issues or something
that happened, But anyway, it should be going out at
the tail end of June to subscribers, in first week
of July to the public to the rest.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Already had people asking me for a copy, Craig, I'm
sure we'll get them away. We're gonna get We're gonna
give them away.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I've done it every year since nineteen ninety eight, and
the folks a Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine are always
gracious enough to give us some copies to give away.
And by some I mean usually we've had like about
one hundred, and we give them away throughout the course
of a month. We'll see how many they get to
us or whatever by the time it is time to
give them away. And it's almost certainly to happen once
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I get back from vacation. But we will give away
copies of the magazine this year, so we're gonna do
that as well, so we look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Up next, we've got some sec news to pass along.
We'll update you on the College World Series game, and
I do want to hear a couple of the offerings
of Cameron's dad's selections for the music survey, just to
kind of wet the appetite a little bit here, because
the next one's coming up on Thursday, when my Cardbo
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Harges does it. So all that and more coming up
when we continue here on thirteen under the Zone. First
of all, updating the College World Series game. It's now
in the bottom of the fourth inning. Louisville had taken
a three to nothing late organ State came back with
two in the bottom of the third, but.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Louisville got a home run from Zion Rose in the
bottom of.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The fourth, So it's four to two Louisville, bottom of
the fourth of that elimination game.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
The winner of that game will advance.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
To play Coastal Carolina, and they would have to beat
them twice tomorrow and then then get on Thursday. They'd
have to beat them no more to force a final
game out of that bracket on Thursday. Tonight, UCLA will
play Arkansas an elimination game. Arkansas stayed alive yesterday behind
that gauge Wood no hitter, shutting out an ending the
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season of Murray State three to nothing, and then UCLA
and LSU began their winners bracket game last night. UCLA
jumped to three to nothing lead. LSU came back with
four in the bottom of the first. They were up
four to three in the second when the skies opened
up and severe thunderstorms. They stopped playing. They couldn't finish,
so they had finished this morning and LSU won the
game nine to five. So now UCLA, which lost for
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the first time in this NCAA postseason, is now having
to play an elimination game tonight against Arkansas. The losers
season will be complete, they will be over. The winner
will move on and then would have to defeat LSU twice.
They'd have to beat them tomorrow and then win an
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if necessary game on Thursday to advance to the National Championship Series,
which is Saturday, Sunday and if necessary, Monday. It's the
best two out of three, So Coastal Carolina and LSU
are in the best shape to reach that championship round,
but it's not done yet. Speaking to college news, here's
NCAA are to excuse me SEC related information today the
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women's basketball matchups in conference play. These are conference games
for the SEC have been announced and the actual conference schedule.
The actual conference schedule will begin on January first. So,
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and the way this is set up, there's a single
round robin of home or away. That's fourteen games with
one rotating opponent that will be played at home and
away two games. Each team will play eight home games
and eight games. But as Cameron was noting when he
looked at the schedule, it means, as I just related
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in Layman's terms, Texas will only play one team two times.
Last year was South Carolina they at home and home.
This year it'll be LSU. So this will be the
seventeenth season of the sixteen game schedule, So they're gonna
have sixteen games. The women's tournament will be in Greenville,
as it has been the past. It'll start on Wednesday,
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March fourth and conclude on Sunday, March eighth. Okay, so
here are the conference games the Texas is gonna have.
First of all, these are home games. These are the
home games they'll have. They'll love Auburn and home Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri,
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Mississippi State, Texas, A and M in Oklahoma. Now, last
year they played every one of those teams on the road,
So it is a flip flop. They played at Auburn,
they played at Georgia, they played at Kentucky, they played
at Missouri. No, that's not true. They that's not Missouri,
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that's Ole Miss. I saw U M. Sainsbury. That's that's
Old miss And they did play them on the road,
Ole miss, Mississippi State, A, and M in Oklahoma. They
played every one of those games on the road. Last year,
they get all of those opponents at home.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
These are the.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Games they have to play on the road at Alabama,
at Arkansas, at Florida, at Missouri, at South Carolina, at Tennessee,
and at Vanderbilt. So the UH and then the one
opponent that they played both home and away is LSU.
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So the the biggest difference between last year and this
year is that last year they played LSU one time.
It was at home. Memorable game. They were down thirteen
in the third quarter, came back and won that game.
They play LSU home and home. South Carolina, who they
played home and home last year. They only played one time,
but the game is in Columbia, so they are going
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to have to go there. So that's some of the
key matchups there as far as South Carolina goes. Of course,
shared the title with Texas last year, won the SEC
Women's Tournament, got to the championship before they were blown
out by Yukon. Of course, South Carolina beat Texas in
the final four and it was a fourth time they met.
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During the year, South Carolina plays Georgia at home, Ole
miss at home, Mississippi State at home, Missouri at home,
Tennessee at home, Vanderbilt at home, and Texas at home.
And on the road, South Carolina plays at Arkansas, at Auburn,
at Florida, at Kentucky, at LSU at A and M
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and at OU.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Is there a non conference series against South Carolina in
a tournament, because based off South Carolina's website says Texas
will play South Carolina twice, including once in a non
conference game. Is there an exhibition or one of those
early season? I know they're going to Las Vegas to
start it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Would it would have to be in that Vegas event.
I've not seen the opponents now unless someone knows, but
I do know this. I do know this because I
remember hearing about this last year. South Carolina is part
of that what is it called Legends Classic whatever it is. Yeah,
they're in that. They are in it. So it is
possible that those two teams are meeting in a game
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that will not count in the conference standings, like Texas
Baseball did with Ole Miss at the start of the year.
So that's entirely possible. They could wind up playing uh,
South Carolina in Vegas as well as in Columbia, but
they will not be playing them in Austin, so that's
for sure all of that. Uh So, so what this
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means has obviously by announcing these women's opponents.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's the Hall of Fame Series, right, Hall of Fame Series.
Legends was in Brooklyn, That's right.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I thought it had some other weird name to it. Ummm,
we look check some other source. I am seeing that
it's called it's called the.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Wait a minute, the men played It was the Hall
of Fame Series Las Vegas opening night right before Texas.
But Ohio State it was South Carolina and Michigan the
game before it may have had had a different name. Yeah,
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
It's called the Player's Era Okay in Las Vegas, yep.
And it happens the Wednesday of Thanksgiving week and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Okay, the Hall of Fame is the opening. This is
Thanksgiving so different. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. It says women
teams Duke, South, Carolina, Texas and UCLA.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Okay, Okay, so there you are. So anyway, that's uh
that that's where the women's schedule is. And again they
have not announced the completed women's non conference schedule because
I think they're still trying to nail down a couple
of opponents.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Last year, Vic was trying to nil it down.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Oh it was it was like yeah, I think it
was like he finally got all the opponents done.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I think three weeks before the season began, Richmond, James
Madison and YEAD to go there.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, to get it done now, and that was an
agreement to do a home and home. So one would
imagine that this year on the schedule, Richmond will have
the return game in Austin and James Madison will have
a return game in Austin. So that's about all I
know about that and that they are going to play
in that Las Vegas event. But I don't know any
of the Like you said, you just announced the teams
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that will be in the Las Vegas then that's on
their website, right, Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
But it says matchup and schedules coming soon. Yeah. Yeah.
Is it kind of like one of those things where
you play someone and you win in advance and then
you go to the loser side. There's only four teams.
The men's tournament has what eighteen teams in it, so
that that's kind of like a yeah, typical you know,
Thanksgiving week, So it's kind of like, you know, the
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Maui Invitational that Texas will be playing. You're right, Yeah,
what's the one Battle for Atlantis Battle.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
For Atlantis or some of the one down to Disney World,
the ones in uh at Myrtle Beach or the you know, whether.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's Bad Bad Boy Moors.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, and then then and then the one in Charleston.
There's a lot of those holiday events Hawaii in addition
to Maui. So yeah, there's there's a lot of events.
We It was announced back several months ago the Texas
would play in that Maui Invitational, and it will be
the first time. It's got a tricky answer here. It'll
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be the first time that Texas will have played in
the Maui Invitation on five years. However, it'll be the
first time they've played in Maui in thirteen years. You see,
they went to the Maui Invitational all the way back
in the first time he went was nineteen ninety three
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when the Maui Invitational was pre Christmas, not pre Thanksgiving,
and he went out there in ninety three. I'll ever
get this. It was a December of ninety three, ninety three,
ninety four seasons. So they go out there and they
have to play Kentucky the first game. And this was
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a Kentucky team coach by Rick Patino that went.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
To the lait As Sweet sixteen. They were really good.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
And that gym, the Lahina Civil Center, which is basically
a gym, seats at least it did at that time,
and it may still seat twenty four hundred. Kentucky fans
purchased twenty one hundred of the twenty four hundred seats.
The entire building was a wash in blue, and they
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throttled Texas. He being in by twenty five points. So
Texas went into the consolation bracket.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And they won a game over I.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Believe it was Tennessee Tech was the second game, and
then they played Notre Dame for fifth place. And Notre
Dame was coached by John McCleod, the one time Dallas
Maverick's coach, and who was the coach that coached just
got recently got fired him with the son's money. Williams.
He played for Notre Dame in that game. So Bill
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Sheenigan I did this a guy that was in ninety three.
And then they didn't go for a long time afterwards,
and by then, by the time the next time they went,
the event had become a pre Thanksgiving event, the one
during feast week that we're all acquainted with now. So
the next yeah, So the next time they went was
in two thousand and I think they finished in third
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and was in Maui. Then they went in two thousand
and four, I think finished third again. I think it
happened in eight and might have finished third or fifth
or something fifth or something like that, or not third.
I guess they were finishing fifth because they lost like
some early games. Then was the twenty twelveth tournament that
Cameron remembers, even though you weren't out there. That's when
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they lost all three games, including the shamanad in that deal. Yeah,
that's the last time Texas played in Maui. Now in sixteen,
they declined that invitation to go back because it was
Shaka Smart's first year. Remember they opened in Shanghai. He
wanted to play in Brooklyn. They played in the event,
Brooklyn lost both of those games. And then the next
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time it was twenty twenty. Well, as we know, twenty
twenty was the pandemic here. Now they had the tournament,
but they moved the tournament from Lahina. They moved it
from Maui to Ashville, North Carolina, because, as we know,
Mali and Ashville looked exactly alike her, very very similar. Actually,
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Ashville is a lovely place. Lenn and I are going
to spend a little time over there on the vacation
of her, but it's different than Mali. But we were
not permitted to go to broadcast that due to the
protocols that were in place, so we did it remotely
from studios back here. In fact, they were in the
bowels of DKR. Texas Memorial Stadium, and wouldn't you know it,
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Texas won the event that year. They beat Davidson the
first game, then they beat Indiana, and then they beat
North Carolina in the championship and they won it in
twenty twenty. So that's the last time Texas played in
the Maui Invitational. The last time they were physically playing
in Maui was twenty twelve or it is. They'll go
this year, twenty twenty five. And we haven't seen anything,
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you know, in terms of brackening or anything like that.
But I would imagine in the coming weeks, since we've
now seen the women's conference schedule, or at least the
conference opponents, the home and away opponents for the SEC
games for women's basketball, I would imagine we'll see it
for men's basketball pretty soon, you know. If not in
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the next day or two, certainly perhaps maybe by the
end of the week or something like that, we should
learn the men's men's conference home and away schedule. Not
the exact dates, but there are opponents and whether they're
playing them at home or way, it'll be on down
the road. And that's where television gets really involved.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
In the games. They want to televise and all that
sort of stuff. Get those golf clubs ready, A oh gosh,
I ate my lunch. That was shooning and I played
at ninety three. That's the one where I tee off
and I have a terrible slice and the faaraway's bending
down to the left trying to line up left to
play the slice, and it sliced badly onto the rocks
and down to a cove down there, and it's muttered
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around my breath. Damn it Ben, And of course it
was Ben Crenshaw designed that plantation course, and Shoney goes,
will you get mad at Ben? Four?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
And I said, he designed it. He could have put
the fairway over there, so no, he can't, the oceans
over there. He had to put it there. So anyway,
Bill always said that that Ben's wife, Julie always enjoyed
that story about that with regard to my bad cough game.
So anyway, yeah, we'll see, we'll see if I play
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it this time around. In the meantime, we've got some
other things to get to and we'll do that next
when we continue on thirteen Under the Zone, third and
final hour of the program. Here on thirteen under the Zone,
Craig Way alongside the producer Cameron Parker. Glad to have
you with us on this Tuesday afternoon. A quick update
on the College World Series. Louisville is still leading Oregon State.
It's five to three top of the seventh. It was
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four to two Louisville in the top of six when
Oregon State loaded the bases when nobody out and wound
up only being able to get one run out of it.
And then Louisville came back with a run to get
the two run margin backs. And there's now two down
with two on in the top of the seventh Oregon
State and they trail by a score of five to three,
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and they've gone oh for nine today when hitters have
come to the play with runners in scoring positions. So
that's always something that's difficult to overcome. If you can't
get those guys home, it makes a big difference on that.
I always like to whenever we have the opportunity to
give away something on the air, or at least give
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away an opportunity to win something on the air, And
that's what we have for you with a pair of
tickets to see Jason Aldeen at Moody Center. On August sixteenth,
and by listening to this program during the week, you
can enter in by telling them the keywords. So this
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is how it works. If you don't already have the
iHeartRadio app, and why wouldn't you, I mean, it's free,
it's easy. There's lots of great opportunities and listening events
and things like that and waste win. It's free, it's
easy to download. You just have the down you download
the iHeart Radio app. When you get it downloaded, you
search for AM thirteen hundred the zone us Really, so
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you search for AM thirteen hundred the zone station pops up.
You'll see a little button, a little red button there
that has a microphone on it. So what you want
to do is you tap that red microphone. Do that,
and then after you tap the red microphone, then you
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have a chance to leave us a message. And you
do it by what we call our talk backline. So
it's a button with a little white microphone. You'll see
it in the upper right corner. You tap that button
and then you can leave us a message of up
the thirty seconds saying hey, yeah, I heard on Craig
Show they were giving away opportunity to win a pair
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of tickets to see Jason Aldean. Here's the keyword for today.
You tell them what the keyword is. Yes, say the
keyword was country. Today's keyword tractor tractor. So it's as
simple as that. So it's pretty easy, pretty easy to do.
Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
I don't know country tractor? I mean, well, what's the
other keyword tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Hey, uh no, it's not, but it's it's it's it's
I'm looking at it right now. Let's say it's a
word that's pretty endemic to a country Jason Holden, was
he the one who did she thinks my tractor sexy?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Is that? Why? That would be up to me? Let's
see Jason Aldean.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
I don't you know, my my knowledge of the country
music scene is limited at best. I know he's very popular.
I know he's had a lot of hits. But big
Green Tractor. That's it, Big Green tractor. Okay, so see, okay,
it must be his office new album. There you go,
that makes perfect sense. Big green tractors. You guys, actually
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a big green tractor.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Some of these guys, the country music guys, are really
and truly true country music guys, and you know the
parents of farmers or ranchers or whatever, or the the
who had farmers or ranchers who you know, farmers or
ranchers for parents, they had that. So anyway, so it
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could be that's a big green tractor. Yeah, so anyway,
today's keyboard is tractor.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
You can do that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
The on the text line where we say you can
always text us at eight one five three zero, do
text the word Texas followed by your question of comment
the eight won five three zero. Somebody said the Booze
vendors and Omaha are rooting for LSU.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, no, tell yeah, they don't know. I haven't seen
the latest of the jell O shot tracker at Yeah.
That said DJ's Dugout, which is right near there.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
That was, by the way, that was the place at
Texas advanced to the College World Series. We were making
plans to have camera and hard and have a whole
group up there right and do shows up there. And
the place we had targeted and we're wanting them shows
was DJ's Dugout, which is just I won't say it's
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just beyond the right field fence. It's up the street,
but it's not far from the ballpark, and it's a
big watering hole and gathering place, and that's where they
do a jellow shot count and LSU is right up
to the top when Texas was there. I think Texas
and Tennessee were both really good in.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
That jell O shot category. There.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
I mentioned we were talking earlier about Willis Reid scoring
being big inspirational lyft to his New York Knicks teammates
in nineteen seventy, and I said he provided the inspirational left.
Walt Fraser was the real heavy duty provider that somebody
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had texted in and said, I believe Willis Rereed only
scored four points in that game seven. I averaged four
points in high school, and I never inspired the same fire.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah, I understand, I understand. Hey, but you had more
points in high school than you did and Tyres Haliburton
did last night. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Remember the famous line from the late great Abe Lemons,
who on the post game show, or maybe it was
at a news conference postgame news conference, actually was a
post game in the locker room, he told one guy
who scored one point, you realize you scored one point
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more than a dead man.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Are these quotes kept somewhere, because every Abe Lemon story
you've told me is hilarious. Something about the one where
and I'll let you retell. But he was asked about
if he was interested in the Los Angeles Lakers job,
and he said no, and I think someone asked him
why not, and he goes because I don't think the
Los Angeles Lakers are interested in me.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's exactly right. And that's
when he had things going really well. He had, he
had some some I can't even tell on the air,
but I can't. I can tell this one on the air.
He actually did this. Texas was playing SMU at Moody Coliseum,
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where SMU plays its home games where they're playing back then,
even this was before they even had the renovation at
Moody which I have now and suppose it's really nice.
But so they were playing in Moody Coliseum in SEMU
and the benches are well student seating in those days
was right behind the opponent's bench, and they are riding
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Abe Lemons mercilessly. In fact, the guys who were doing
it the most were a couple of SMU's cheerleaders. A
couple of guys who are part of the cheerleading group,
and they were just relentless and they kept going and
they kept going and kept going, and finally and Texas
was comfortably ahead, but they were still riding him. Finally
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they get to a dead ball situation. Abe turns around
and he sees those two cheerleaders there and looks at
him and says, cheerleaders, huh, I'd rather have a daughter
in a whorehouse than a son for a cheerleader. And
the guy just shrank, sat down.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
There's nothing else that said.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
The rest of the way he had, he had all
kinds of sayings, no, no, no, he said. One time
he was in a in a bar after a game
back at the hotel, and the immortal Bill Little told
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me the story. And this was when Bill was doing
to play by play there in the late seventies, maybe
the year after they won the n I T or
something like that, and they were in they were in
a bar, and he was minding his own business and
and even those days, used to wear a helm's tooth
hat and he had this hat on and a lady
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approached them from the table, approached them at the table.
Ever sitting the reminder, there was a lady approached them,
and clearly she was, as they say in the trades,
a working girl. And she said she was just checking
to see if they were interested in some action or
something like that. And all he said was, what do
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you got in mind? And she said, wait a minute,
are you a cop? And he said, sure, am hook
And you ever heard of Sherlock Holmes? Tips his hat,
she turns and walks away. So he had a lot
of quotes.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
He had a lot of.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Quotes back in the day, did the late great Abe Lemons?
All right, we'll get to some other topics coming up,
and we continue on thirteen under the Zone. J Monahan
stepping down. Yeah, PGA Tour Commissioner. I thought that would
make it happy. Stepping down at the end of his
contract in twenty twenty six. He will transition the day
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to day responsibilities of running the PGA to the new CEO,
Brian is It roll ap rlapp roll apped.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
The statement released today the news release the tour said
Monahan would focus on his role as a member of
the PGA Tour and PGA Tour Enterprises boards during the
rest of his tenure. His statement was quote, a year ago,
I informed our boards and upon completing a decade as Commissioner,
I would step down from my role at the end
of twenty twenty six. Since then, we've worked together to
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identify a leader who can build on our momentum and
develop a process that ensures a smooth transition. We found
exactly the right leader in Brian Rolllap, and I'm excited
to support him as he transitions from the NFL into
his new role leading the PGA Tour. So yeah, roll
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App had had been with the NFL. So he's going
to serve as the CEO of both the PGA Tour
and PGA Tour enterprises. That's the for profit entite. It's
good to hear people say, yeah, this is the for
profit as opposed to the nonprofit. The tour said its
management team will report the roll aap, while he will
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report to the board of directors of both the pg
Tour and PGA Tour enterprises. He previously worked as the
NFL's Chief Media and Business Officer and was the lead
architect of the Median Business Playbook during a time when
the growth exploded. So they're thinking maybe that's kinda gonna happen.
So what do you make of that? First of all,
I know you never like J. Monahan, never liked me,
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so this must be happy that he's leaving.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, nothing against Jay as well, apparently quite a bit
as a human being. But okay, commissioner of the PJ Tour.
Not good. No, what has happened to the game of
golf is partially J Monahan's fault.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
There was the PGL at the doorstep, you know, trying
to knock down because the PJ Tour just thought, we're
the PGA Tour, we don't need the change. While you
have all these other leads of the NFL and NBA
adapting and embracing change and trying to connect to a
younger audience, the PJ Tour that we're fine, you know,
we're good. And then Tiger Woods, you know, reaches kind
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of the end of his career and all of a sudden,
you know, the popularity of golf maybe dips a little bit,
and the PJ Tour is grasping for air. And then
the idea of live comes around. The PGL comes around,
and they're trying to meet with the PGA Tour in
Monahan and mount of Hand is like, you know what,
We're good, We're not gonna change. And what happens The
Lift Golf Tour gets created and the game of golf
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gets fractured, and then we now we have all these
stupid things and stupid committees and stupid meetings and stupid
crap about the Saudi's and the PIF that has really
taken away from the game of golf. And we're finally
kind of getting a place now where it seems to
be okay. But a lot of this has to do
with Monahan refusing to you know, meet with other people
(01:01:37):
outside the tour to embrace the idea of how can
we change the game of golf and make it more interesting?
Because let's be real, you know, the majors are great,
but the tournament's in between, you know, not.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Outside of the majors and maybe the Players Championship. It
certainly outside of the majors. It's a niche sport. Yeah,
really it's in terms of fan involvement. Now, I love it.
I love it, uh and and I will tell you this,
A lot of people say it's a great way to
uh spend a Sunday afternoon on the couch, taking a
nap when you have the golf on the background, because
(01:02:13):
and I will admit that I've done that before too.
But I also grew up in a town that had
a PGA tour stop still does. It was back then
called the Greater Greensboro Open. I think now it's Windom
the Window Championship, yep. And I grew up going to it,
first when it was at Sedgefield, then at Forest Oaks.
Now of course it's back at Sedgefield, and so I
really enjoy I started going to it when I was
(01:02:33):
eleven years old. And uh, I've always liked the PGA Tour,
but now, like you said, they've got challenges. The live
tour thing is a real challenge, and uh, you know,
supposedly they're working to come together, but I haven't seen
anything concrete, have you that says yes, by such and
such a date there's gonna be a merging or or
(01:02:56):
a cooperative effort thing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I just I just heard a lot of talk, but
that was about it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
It's been a year, almost a year maybe a little
bit longer since they announced the merger with PIFF and
the PGA Tour, which I think was just a publicity
stunt at this point. But I think someone like Brian
Rolapp can come in and kind of get this done,
because one thing's for sure is golf's a better place
when we have the best players playing on the same circuit.
(01:03:24):
And who knows what will happen with live But you know,
looking at at kind of his resume here, you know,
Rolap joined the NFL in two thousand and three. He
was considered to be a possible success for the Roger Goodell,
so he got along well with you know, owners and players,
but also you know, he has been part of the
NFL media rights that has ballooned, right, you know, it's
the most popular sport and God is all going anywhere?
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
No, He's he's quite comfortable making fifty million a year
that the owners are giving.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
So, you know, Rollaps seems to have been involved in
NFL kind of in taking the next step in their
media contracts, not just with you know, CBS and Fox,
but also ESPN in Amazon and NBC and now YouTube.
So we have an idea of how can we expand
NFL coverage And it's obviously the Super Bowls the most
(01:04:13):
watched you know program every year in the country. So
you know, I think you can take that to the
game of golf and and you know, move it in
the right direction. Rex Rex Hoggard with Yahoo Sports. I
guess they're playing at Cromwell this week. The Travelers Championship,
the last signature event of the season.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Which when I was a kid, it was known as
the Sammy Davis Junior Greater Hertford Open.
Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
And Sammy would always show up there in the booth
and visit with Pat Summer all and you have a
cigarette going, man, it's great to have you here. And
and yeah, it was a Sammy Davis Junior Greater Hartford
Open at Weathersfield Country Club there in Connecticut. But now
it's the Travelers, which was always a big sponsor of
that event.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Anyway, big event, and Rollap met with the players either
today or yesterday, and an anonymous quote coming from that
meeting was I normally leave these meetings pretty bored and
not very inspired, but after that one, I was like, heck, yeah,
I was fired up, so't I don't. We haven't heard
a quote from that from a J Monahan meeting ever,
So you know, hopefully this is in the right direction.
(01:05:15):
But you know, I think most golf fans, even players,
just how can we get you know, the Live Golf
guys and the PJ Tour golf guys kind of in
the same league, even if it's not going to be
every week, but you know, more regularly than we have now,
which is only basically four weeks out of the year
when it comes to the major championships. So we'll see
(01:05:35):
the game is in an absolute mess. But we have seen,
like you know, last week at the US Open with
JJ spond winning, you had guys like Drell Hatton who
plays on the Live Golf Tour and you know he's competing.
Obviously the draw that that Bryson brings. You know, Bryson
came close to winning at the Gusta this year, at
(01:05:56):
PJ at Quail, he won the US Open and Pine
Or so you know, it works out well. And when
the Ryder Ryder Cup happens this season, there's going to
be some Live golf guys playing in the Ryder Cup,
including Bryson and probably Terrell Haddon. So one thing's for
sure is you got to find out way to get
this out on the same page. And for whatever reason,
Jay Monahan didn't seem that thrilled or that interested in
(01:06:20):
fixing this, because he's been very anti live and very
anti you know, detraction since the whole Live Golf League
was announced. And again, this whole thing probably could have
been avoided at a certain point, but it wasn't, and
here we are, and it's a move that's probably a
couple of years too late, but it is getting done.
Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
He Monahan I'm talking about he always preferred to whenever
the subject of live the live to or came up,
he always preferred to defer and let others talk about that,
like Roy McElroy, yeah yeah, or Jordan Speed right yeah,
or you can't Tiger Tiger Yeah. He used to say
(01:07:03):
that they just wanted to let the membership, the body
of it speak, which always found puzzling because if there
was anything else I had to do with the PGA,
then he was going to be out there and speaking
about it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah. It's like, you know, imagining with all the concussions
that that was happening, the blowback, and you know, Roger
Goodell did speak, But imagine if Goodell was like, you
know what, we're gonna throw Tom Brady out there and
he's going to let the media pick him apart every
week because remember for the most part during the whole
you know, breakup the PGA Tour and the liv Golf Tour,
(01:07:33):
Roy McRoy actually was speaking to the media, even though
he doesn't do it now so much, but you know,
you think about it, he would have at least a
press conference before the round and then he would speak
all four days after each round, So that's five times
a week. Guys like Roy McRoy and Jordan Speedth and
Scottie Scheffler and Cantley and Tiger are having the answer
questions on behalf of the PGA Tour. Well, j Monahan
(01:07:57):
does like one two press conferenferences a year. Yeah, that's it.
It was. It was so poorly handled, and it's why
he lost the support of a lot of players and
a lot of a lot of media members. Again, he's
you know, he might be a nice guy, but in
terms of you know, being the right person to advance
the game of golf, I don't think so. I don't
(01:08:18):
think that was it. And it's a move that you know,
hopefully Rollout is the right guy for it, and you know,
based off what he's able to do with the NFL,
I think so. I mean you're not considered to be
the possible successor for Goodell if you don't know what
you're doing here. So, yeah, do you know who I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Is there a specific appointed with the title commissioner Commissioner
of Live Golf is.
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
It's it's changed around a few times. It's technically the
Live Golf CEO, which used to be Greg Norman. Now
it's Scott O'Neill who joined earlier this season. Yeah, he's
considered the new chief executive officer of the company. I
(01:09:02):
think at one point he was actually with the USGA,
so he kind of took over for Greg Norman because
no one wanted to be in a meeting with Greg
Norman anymore. So we'll see. It's it's become way too
business like chem of Golf in my opinion. But Scott
O'Neill and Brian roll Up, who apparently do have some
(01:09:22):
history and not in a good way, we'll have to
work together at some point. Really not good. Okay, all right,
We've got a couple other things we'll get to. By
the way.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Updating the College World Series game, it is now in
the bottom of the eighth inning and Louisville is still
leading Oregon State. It's six to three now the Cardinals
in the bottom of it looks like Louisville's going to
be on the verge of eliminating Oregon State. Oregon State
of course play as an independent this year, what with
(01:09:55):
the dissolution of the Back twelve, or at least the
temporary dissolution of the PAC twelve, with USC, UCLA, Oregon,
and Washington all defecting to the Big Ten, Arizona and
Arizona State then getting in an escape pod and going
off to the Big twelve, and Colorado and Utah also
(01:10:20):
going to the Big twelve. So it left only Oregon
State and Washington State in the PAC twelve. But the
PAC twelve is turned around and is reconstituting itself now
and rebuilding, and so they have not and for folks
(01:10:40):
who don't know, they have to have eight football playing
members to be eligible for things like the College Football
Playoff and stuff like that, and they're at eight members,
but only seven play football this starting next year, and
(01:11:01):
I guess it's starting in twenty six twenty seven, so
Gonzaga is one of the members in there, but Gonzaga
has played football, So you have seven football playing institutions
at the moment Oregon State, Washington State, Colorado State, Boise State,
Fresno State, Utah State, and San Jose State.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
That's seven.
Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
They have to get one more, and the heavy duty
rumor is it's going to be Texas State. If it's
going to be Texas State, one would imagine that you
would hear an announcement very soon, if not by the
end of this week, certainly by the end of the
following week that would end on Friday to the twenty seventh.
(01:11:44):
The reason why I say that is because Texas States
buyout to get out of the Sun Belt Conference is
five million dollars if it's for July. If it's before
July first, so if it's after July, vers it jumps
to ten million. So if Texas State is to leave
(01:12:07):
the Sun Belt for the PAC twelve and they're still
going to keep the name PAC twelve even with eight members,
it'd be nine for basketball and other sports we can
zag in there, but eight for football. And if they're
going to do that, it would behoove them to make
that announcement, to make that move by if not by
(01:12:32):
the end of this week, certainly by the end of
next week. Because once you get beyond June thirtieth, it
jumps for the exit feed from five million to ten million.
So I think we're probably we're going to hear that
Texas State is going to be the eighth football playing
institution in the ninth overall member of the rebuilt PAC
(01:12:56):
twelve conference coming up, and then there's some other movement
with some other conference with the schools. I think what
Louisiana Tech is expected to jump to the Sun Belt
coming off Conference USA, that they're expected to jump into
the Sun Belt.
Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
So we'll see how all that goes. I can't stop
thinking about the contrasts of Boise State's blue field with
Texas State's maroon and gold and white uniforms on it
for a conference game come November of twenty twenty seven.
Well that's a good point. It's conference. Yeah, I mean
think about this.
Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
You have conference games, like you said, between Boise State
or Washington State and Texas State as a conference game.
Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
In Zaga and Texas State playing each other in.
Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Basketball, imagine and Zaga playing at Strand Arena.
Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
How about that? And yeah, you would have that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
You'd at Oregon State playing Texas State and baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
You'll be fun seriously.
Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Yeah, Now, if you can, if you can envision, if
you're able to envision USC playing Rutgers in a conference game,
which is real in the Big Ten, Ucla and Maryland
in a conference game, which is real in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
If you can envision that Stanford first Clemson, Stanford against
Clemson in an ACC game? How about cal and Boston
College in an ACC game? You know I still have
and this happened several years ago. I still wind up
on the mailing list of two ACC schools. Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
One is Georgia Tech because Texas played Georgia Tech in
women's basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
This is when Gail Guestingcourse was coaching.
Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
This was around two thousand and nine, and Texas played
Georgia Tech and they played them in a tournament in
Boca return, Florida. It was down to Florida Atlantic was
the event. Texas played Georgia Tech and then Florida Atlantic
played somebody else and they put Texas in Georgia Tech,
the bigger schools in the in the head to head
(01:15:10):
game and Texas won and then they played Florida fau
Florida Atlantic beat somebody wasn't very good or whatever it
to beat up in the other gay and so they
played him in the final. But when I was trying
to get information on the basketball team, somehow I wound
up on the Georgia Tech list, like you know, season
ticket offers and all this kind of stuff, And I've
never responded a couple of times try to get off
(01:15:32):
the mailing list. Never have same story with Stanford because
it happened when I was trying to get information on
Stanford before baseball game several years ago. It wasn't the
Super Regional a couple years ago Bett it was on back.
So I've wound up on both Stanford and Georgia Tech's
email list. And today today, Cameron Parker, I got an
(01:15:55):
email from Stanford Athletics with a with a picked package
of tickets for home football games. You pick one of
two opponents, and one of them was Notre Dame, and
then then you pick two from another list, and on
the other list, Boston College and pitt were on that list,
(01:16:20):
and those are conference games in the ACC. Keep that
in mind. We'll continue here on thirteen unt of the zone.
I go through sunglasses pretty easy. Life expectancy with a
pair of sunglasses for me is about three weeks really
have that, especially when they get on vacation and wear
them and leave them around. You know, even the reading
glasses have readers.
Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
I have. This is the actual truth.
Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
I carry one pair on me on my person like
I'm a pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I have that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I have an emergency pair in my bag in case
I need them. I have a pair in the truck
just for if I need them, you know, driving or
something they have to see something, they stay in the truck.
I have a pair that sits on my desks desk
(01:17:13):
table at the houseware work, and I have a pair
right some my bed, so you know, there's always a
pair within arm's reach. And invariably what I end up
doing is like four or five pair wine up stuck
in my pockets or whatever. But I mean, you know,
I try to remember, you know, keep them the way
they keep them, separate from it. And those are just
(01:17:34):
the regular, the regular pairs. And my wife is certainly
one of the queens of being able to find deals
through Amazon ford for cheap. She got me six pairs,
six pairs of reading glasses at the level I need,
(01:17:54):
and a pair of reading glasses that are shaded like
reading sunglasses for nineteen nine six. Fuck, so not even
it doesn't even make any sense to try to go back,
because I did the whole thing, the eye doctor stuff.
I had the four hundred dollars prescription readers and I
only need it for reading. That's my distance vision is
(01:18:17):
really really good, but it's the up close reading. They're
in the top of the ninth Oregon State, as they
have invariably done throughout the course of the year, not
giving enough. They're got a lead off homer from Iva Arquette.
What a great college player he is, and he's going
to be drafted pretty high.
Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yep. Native of Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
He's batting three twenty five overall in the postseason, He's
fourteen for forty three and he has six postseason home runs.
Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
That includes regional and Super regional.
Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
After that, a base hit has followed and a wild pitch.
So Oregon State is the tying run at the plate,
and they have a runner at second base on a
wild pitch with nobody out.
Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
It's Gavin Turley is the runner at second base.
Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Say not giving up yet, Beaver's not not giving up yet.
They went into the bottom of the night down six
to three and out six to four, and yeah, we'll see,
we'll see, all right, complete this sentence for me, Cameron,
the most desirable free agent in the NBA at the
(01:19:25):
conclusion of this season will be.
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
So, is this like unrestricted or restricted? Because that's always
you know, could change the answer because technically Lebron James
should be a free agent. But is this unrestricted?
Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Let's do both. Let's do both. Start with unrestricted. Who
is who is the most desirable unrestricted free agent out there?
Who is going to be the most desirable unrestricted free
agent out there?
Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I'm looking up the list right now unrestricted free agent?
Shoot is it might be Miles Turner based off this
the list I have. Okay, Okay, I'm guessing there's a
bigger name. But based off you know, player options and
team options and all kinds off, it.
Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Could well and and the other thing that goes into
max and near max super max contract. Guys like James Harden, uh,
Kyrie Irving, uh Fred Van Vliet another one.
Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
All those guys have have player options. They have player options.
So that's that's why I bring up there. Okay, So
if ever doing player options, like let's just say one
of those guys opts out, I would say Kyrie, but
I don't. I think Kyrie is going to stay in Dallas, right,
Lebron's gonna stay in Los Angeles. I think Harden's going
(01:21:00):
to stay in Los Angeles. He wants to be there.
They're the biggest question, Marcus Jewish Randall because he had
a really good first two rounds of the playoffs and
then he had a really bad third round in the playoffs. Right,
if you're Minnesota, do you want to stick with him?
Because he decided to opt in Miles Turner also on
that list, he is he does not have a player option.
He would be an unrestricted free agent and really good
(01:21:23):
in games one and two. He's been okay in games three, four,
and five for Indiana. Doris Burg kind of went to
begin the broadcast last night like Molestern needs to have
a big game and did not have it.
Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Let me throw two other names at you get Josh
Giddy and NOAs Reed.
Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
See I love nas Reed. I'm a big nose Reed fan. Now,
you know, he former six Men of the Year, sixth
player of the year, whatever it's called, comes off the bench.
You know. He kind of alluded to after they lost
to Okay see the Western Finals that he is someone
that wants to be on a starting role and maybe
Minnesota will ran him that. Now that's a big part
of this because they have three players who have player
(01:22:05):
options and one that'll be a free agent Randall and
nas Reed. The third guy is Nakila Alexander Walker, who
will be an unrestricted free agent. They can only sign
two of those guys. I think nas Reed and Alexander
Walker are better than Julius Randall, but of course they're
going to get a lot more money than they probably
want to pay him. So nas Reed, I think, is
(01:22:26):
someone that if a contender, like I'm trying to think
of someone who has who has cap space. Like if
san Antonio was like, you know what we want to win. Now,
we're going to trade for Kevin Durant. We're gonna sign
nas Reed. That's someone that could have a really big
impact on a team. Now, if I'm Minnesota, I'm trying
to keep nas Reed and Alexander Walker. But we'll see
(01:22:48):
what they do. A big nas Reed van over here.
Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Would you offer a mid level exception to any of
these guys? The Angela Russell No, Cam Thomas yes, Malik
Beasley mm.
Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah, Brook Lopez if I'm if I if I'm lost,
if I'm the Lakers, Yeah, because I need a big man.
If I'm anybody else know, Trey Jones yeahpguing out with
what's your backcourt death? Maybe John Collins, No, I'm good
(01:23:25):
on John al Horford mh A my contender here like
the Lakers. Yeah, yeah, maybe Kevin Porter Junior No, Quinton
Grimes m no.
Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Kros Lavert mm hmm yeah like Lavert, Bobby Portos, Yeah,
Clint Capella again kind.
Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Of like a Laker team. He fits for the Lakers
really well. And forty year old Chris Paul Yeah, no
one CP three, But again it you know, it kind
of depends on what roster you have there. Okay, what
you what you're what you're looking for, what's your depth
and kind of where are you at in terms of
your week? Are we trying to win a championship, are
we trying to make the playoffs? Or are you just
taking here?
Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
All right, We'll be back to wrap up today's program
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