Sark Previews Texas-Ohio State, Fleetwood Breaks Through, "3rd and Longhorn" Crew Visits

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Be Long Worns Monday, the first Long Worns Monday of
this twenty twenty five college football season. Good afternoon, everybody,
Welcome to the program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone. My name is Craig Way. Glad to
have you with us. We're with you each and every
weekday afternoon two pm to five pm, Monday through Friday,

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and we discuss certainly all things long worn, but a
lot more than that too, Pro football, other college football,
Major League baseball, the other, all of those things that
involve the world of perspiring arts in the sporting life.
Feel free to avail yourself of us via the text line.

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All you have to do is text the word Texas
follow by your question or comment to eight one five
three zero. So you text the word Texas follow by
your question or comment to eight one five three zero.
Standard messaging and data rates may apply. Now we've been
we kind of hinted at this the other day, and

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normally Cameron Parker is the man behind the uh well,
he's not really behind the glass here because he's right
in front of me, but normally behind the other computer
screen over there on the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
As the producer of the.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Program, However, we've also added someone else to our myths
in addition to the fact that our man, Ronald Savage
Junior is here to make sure things run SMOOTHI we
welcome to the iHeart Radio family, young mister Jay Carmon,
who joins us and will be a part of this
program as well going forward. And for those who are

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unfamiliar with you, there might just be just a few
people in Austin who don't know who Jay Carmon is.
Just a few, but there might be welcome aboard. Tell
people a little a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
That's quite the intro. Craig, happy to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I was a Texas dent during the Tom Herman era.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Cose that will not be held against you. That's all right.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It was while I was a student.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I understand that.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
And you and Cameron Parker were kind of classmates there,
aut Is that right?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, Cameron was a couple of years ahead of me,
and we got to work together covering Longhorn sports at
Texas Student Television. Got to work together calling some Austin
LBJ high school football games. I would spend Thursday and
Friday nights going up to round Rock and Flickerville, everywhere
in between and getting involved in some of the high
school sports here when I wasn't covering the Longhorns. And

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after I graduated in twenty two, I worked up in
North Dakota calling some play by play there, moved back
to my hometown in DC where I worked for the Capitals.
But Texas was calling me back, and it's a really
exciting time to join you on the show here, Craig.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, all right, so let's unpack a few things here.
First of all, you are a University of Texas graduate
with a degree.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
In journalism as well as planned two.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, all right, didn't have intercepted you in time and
said go for a more honorable profession. But there you go.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, so but you're but you're from the Washington, DC area,
that's right. Favorite pro football team, the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
There you go. All right, hey, let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
When the decision was made that they were going to
change and they were not gonna be the Redskins anymore,
my wife really liked Washington football team. She liked it
so much, in fact, she ordered one of those long
sleeve T shirt hoodie things from NFL shop dot com.
Because she she liked Washington Football Team and had had

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it on the sleeves and so she she she grew
up in Dallas, so she was kind of a kind
of a Cowboys fan like Cameron became jaded. I kind
of proselytized her in it becoming a Rams fan like me.
She liked them both really, uh, but but she was
disappointed they changed. They changed from Washington Football Team to Commanders.

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Do you like the name Commanders?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I like that there is a consistent name. Washington Football
Team was a little bit. It grew on me, and
it grew on a lot of Washington football fans. But
what didn't grow on me was, oh, is it the
WFT or something else?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Is it the Washington Football Club?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
So I think just having that consistency is a win,
even if the name is kind of well safe and
boring to some of the fans.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, that's where I've read that. You know.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
In addition, there's there's that one group that wants it
to go back to Redskins. But but obviously the ownership
and management of the team is said, that's not happening there.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
They have no interest in doing that.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So and so then other people have come back and said, well,
then change it to something else.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
This is too boring and too Monday.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
If you could change the name of the Washington Commanders
to anything obviously other than Redskins. But if you could
change it to any other name, what do you think
you would change it? Well, it wouldn't be the Generals.
I don't exactly how a winning brand.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, the old USFL team.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
The Monuments.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, you could do something with the helmet there.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah. Yeah, you couldn't do base as senators. That sounds
too much baseball, right, Presidency? Eh, you know, I got
you see. It sounds like you're in the same quandary
with a lot of Washington fans of the pro football team.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, Commanders is a bit like toast. It'll do, but
it's not going to add anything special.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, all right, so, uh just let you know I
did draft Jaden Daniels in my fantasy football draft.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
No sophomore slumpop.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, also have Patrick Mahomes, so you know there.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
But all right, So, but you grew up in the
DC area inside the Beltway, outside the Beltway.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Just outside the Beltway, Okay, town called Potomac, Maryland.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, all right, all right, So all right, So then
why Texas living on the East coast like that? What
appealed to you about the University of Texas is it
because what starts here changes the world? Was said many
times this morning in the press conferences.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's a little hyperbolic, but I started at Texas. My
parents met here and kind of planted that seat early on.
Hey just go give it a look.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Must I say, literally or figuratively? Okay?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
All right?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
They said, they said give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
They said, just go give it a shot.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
And through you know, I knew I'd be able to
study journalism here but also do Plan Too because I
wasn't sure what I wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I knew sports and broadcasting.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
The people saying too.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
For those who don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
It's a it's an interdisciplinary honors program where you focus
on liberal arts through kind of a lens of where
different fields intersect. But as you can probably tell, I
spent a lot of my time in Plan to explaining
to people what Plan Too was.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Okay, all right, there you go. There you go.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
H career goals play by play voice of a team.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, okay, very good.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
That was a similar voice tie I have when I
was you're right, So how you are?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
What are you? Twenty five? Yes?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay, all right, so yeah, I have similar goals on it,
So all right, good. In the meantime, we're glad to
have you here, you know, doing these things.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
You okay with this stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
We're getting there. It's catching on to a fast moving train.
But I appreciate everybody here getting me up to speed
as best they can. And hopefully you don't even notice
somebody different behind for.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Okay, all right, So I got to ask you this,
and we'll tell people to refrain from ugly remarks about
him rooting for Washington's NFL team. Listen, if you're a
Cowboys fan, you know, clean up your own backyard. You know,
they got enough problems with this. And I've been watching
that that Netflix docu series. It's great on the Cowboys
and Jerry Jones and everything. Lenn and I are going
to finish it tonight. But so, as a kid growing

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up in DC and rooting for him back then Redskins,
ultimately Washington football team and the Commanders, did you hate
the Cowboys?

Speaker 6 (07:54):
I did because my next door neighbors were the proudest
flag flying Cowboy fans on the block. I made it,
and with DC being such a transient sports city, we're
no strangers to away fans, but to see it out
the window every day.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, So after you graduated
from Texas, you went up to the Dakotas to do baseball,
much like Cameron did, would BA summer league stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
So my wood bat summer league team was in Wasaw, Wisconsin,
a beautiful city, central Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Spent two seasons with them.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
One on the radio side and one on the streaming
ESPN Plus broadcast, and after that ended, I moved up
to Bismarck, North Dakota to call play by play of
all sorts of sports at sort of a regional sports network.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
There.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
They covered high school and college athletics throughout the academic year,
and then over the summer. We were a production house
that would outsource to indoor football the startup women's Professional
Volleyball League which is now Major League Volleyball. It was
the Pro volleyb of Federation. So it was a lot
of good play by play experience very quickly. And yeah,

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great people out there.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Most unusual team name for whom you broadcast.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Hmm, let's go with well, there was a team in
Dickinson who has since changed their name. Okay, but it
was by far the most unusual. Yeah, they were the
Dickinson Midgets.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
That wow. Okay, so are you saying that was a
wood bat summer league?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Dam that was a high school mascot. Okay, in terms
of wood bat, I've got one for you. Yeah, the
fond de Lac Doc Spiders.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Doc Spiders. Yeah, all right, I know where fond Olac is.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, all right, all right, so good, all right, So
you did that, then you go back to your hometown area,
the DC, and you said you worked.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
For the Capitals.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
It was a radio assistant for the Capital's Radio network.
Got to sit up in the press box with the
voice of the team, John Walton, the intermission host Katie Florio,
analyst Ken Sabrin, and essentially be both an extra set
of eyes and ears during the broad has to be
a statistician and spotter of sorts. And I got to
go down to the locker room, get some player, sound

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cut that up, and send that off to the producers
so they could put that back into the show in
real time.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
All right, So you got some good experiencing coming in
all right, good, good. I just wanted people to kind
of to meet you a little bit so to speak
through the radio, and so wish all the best of luck.
But I'm glad you're with us right now anyway, all right,
this being a Monday, a Long Horns Monday, just to
get everybody back into the rhythm and the groove of
what we do on Long Horns Monday. You hear from

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the head coach, Steve Sarkisian. We brought you his news
conference live this morning about eleven thirty and you'll hear
sound from that, some soundbites from that. We'll do that
in the three o'clock hourd to visit with Nick Schuley
and Jeremy Hills. Jeremy, many of you may remember, was

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a Longhorn, a longhorn, a lifetime longhorn. Nick Shuley of
course huge on the podcast scene with Third and Longhorn, which,
as it so happens and was announced today, is now
also with their programming part of what's going to happen
here on thirteen hundred the zone they have here with

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iHeartRadio and the Zone. It was announced today that we've
partnered with Third and Longhorn for the postgame show, the
Third and Long Worn Football Postgame Show, So this will
follow our Network postgame show, so it'll immediately follow our
coverage on the Network. Of course, you know, we take

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air here on the Zone with Longhorn's Game Day three
hours prior to kick. So this Saturday, it'll start at
eight am with Cameron Proker and Mike Hardball Hart Roger Wallinson.
I will check in from the boot two hours prior
to kick, and then the kickoff at eleven am our time.
When the game is over, we bring you the Network

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postgame Show with the excl of live interviews with coach
Sark and Long Worn players. So we do that, but
when we're done with the Network postgame show, then we
turn it over the Third and Long.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Worn for the postgame show.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Obviously, it'll have in depth analysis, it'll have the insider perspectives,
and it'll be anchored by former Long Worn players and
football insiders will bring authentic firsthand knowledge of.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
The game and the program.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
So Derek Johnson, of course, former linebacker and a co
host of it'll be a part of it. And as
I mentioned, coming in visiting with us today, Nick Schuley
and Jeremy Hills will join us, so we'll get some
thoughts from them, so we're glad to have them aboard
as well. So exciting new things to talk about. But

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up next we let the head coach do the talking.
We're going to hear from Long Worn's head coach, Steve
Sarkisian when we continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
It's the craig Way Show with the Voice of the
Texas Longhorns in Hall of Vain broadcasting.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Here on this Monday afternoon, a Longhorns Monday, and glad
to have you with us, Craig Way alongside Ronald Savage
Junior and the newbie, the new dude in in the group,
and that's Jay Carmon. So uh uh b be gentle

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with him, uh be and be uh be nice with
him as he as he gets things going. All right,
we're gonna get things going. Hearing from Long Horn's head coach,
Steve Sarkisian. First thing we we should tell you is that, uh,
the University of Texas did make an announcement today that
they have a new branding partner, so to speak, and

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and it's the official cardiovascular supplement of Texas Athletics and
it's that the name of the company is human with
two nds A two M A N N and they've
been around for a while. They've been around ut Athletics
for about sixteen years and so they've helped alvocardio, a

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vascular performance for long Orange student athletes. And now with
the supplement and as a result of that, the partnership
will have their logo.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And you might say.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Diagonally across from another corners of the field. So that
was part of it, and that was a news conference
that was this morning. However, that was at ten o'clock
this morning, and then right after that, when it was
all said and done, coach Sart came in for his
regular weekly Monday news conference and we'll bring it to

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every Monday Live. Our coverage begins eleven he begins to
speak around eleven thirty. We'll do that and then if
you missed it, you can catch it at the podcast page.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
But we're also going to bring you.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Excerpts from it, starting with sarks opening comments to open
this news conference.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
And this season, you.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
Know, pretty epic matchup when you think about you know,
one verse two in at least one of the two
major polls for the first game of the season is
great for college football in my opinion. You know, as
much as you know I'm going to talk about the
rankings don't matter, which I believe that, but I do
think for college football, the fanfare, the excitement around this

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game I think is great for our sport. And the
fact that we have three top ten matchups this weekend
I think is great for college football in general. But
beyond the rankings, these are two really good teams. A
ton of respect for Ohio State, ton of respect for
Ryan Day and the job he's done obviously defending national champs.
I think I think coach Day is like seventy to

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ten since he's taken over at Ohio State. And you
think about the quality of players in this game, you know,
and if you look at last year's game, twenty six
players got drafted off of the two teams in the
NFL you include free agents, thirty two players that were
playing in that game a year ago are now in
the NFL. And the fact that both teams are coming
back is one and two in the country. I think

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speaks volumes to the quality of programs that both of
us have, quite frankly, and so you know, We've got
nine guys that started in that game a year ago.
We had thirty players back that played in that game
a year ago, so we do have some experience from
that environment. But it should be a heck of a day.
The fact that you know this is going to be
Lee Corso, Swansong and ESPN College Game Day is going

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to be there. Obviously, Fox with their big new and
kickoff covering the game is going to be there. I
think sets for a great environment and a great stage
for this game.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
You know.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
Naturally, a tall task. We've we've UH talked about this
at length before the season, but we've got a tough
road slate this year, and this is the first one
of a few to come, and so UH it serves
us good to have to go on the road early,
find out about ourselves, find out where we're at, where
we're at as a program, where we can approve UH,
and where we can continue to get better, because we're

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gonna travel more than any other SEC team UH this
year in our conference, and so this is a great
opportunity for us to go do that. Naturally, we believe
in our process on the road. We've won eleven in
a row on the road now and and they haven't
been easy. They're all been very difficult. Going on the
road is tough. But this is going to be a
heck of a matchup for a great environment against a

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really good team who's really well coached, who's had a
ton of success, and you know, I think a little
bit too about some of the epic games that that
Texas and Ohio State have been part of. Obviously last
year's National semi final game. This is the twenty year
anniversary of the five season and v Y and going
there and getting to win at the Shoe. So the

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two programs are not you know, they're they're they're very
kind of aware of one another. There's been great games
and that you know, the goal is I think for
both teams and for both fan bases that this game
can can live up to some of those expectations of
the games in the past. So what that will open.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
It up, all right? So we did open up for questions.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Our friend Danny Davis, the Austin American Statesmen, starting off
with kind of the unanswerable question because the schedule is
the schedule?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Was the schedule?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
But he did, uh, he did ask Sark, is this
the kind of game because of its magnitude and the
national ranking and all that that is better played second week,
third week, Or is he okay with it being week
number one?

Speaker 8 (18:45):
You know, I think we would always, I guess want
it to be. You know, you'd like to get something,
you know, some footing underneath you with some new players,
some guys maybe haven't played with you, even if they're transfers.
But I think at the end of the day, it's like,
if it's both of ours first game, you feel okay,
where I'd be really uncomfortable if this was our first
game and they had already gotten a game under their belt.

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So it just is what it is. You try to
prepare your team as best you can. You try to
minimize the self inflicted wounds, and so you can play
as clean of football as possible come Saturday at noon.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
The next question was about the fact that Sark is
fond of saying you you are able to achieve what
you emphasize and you get what you emphasize. So what
are the things he's emphasizing this week?

Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, I think details. You know, we we obviously started
preparation a week ago and and we kind of, you know,
incrementally got through that preparation. You know, I think this
week is about the details and the style of play
that that we think is unique to us. You know,
naturally we want to remain enamored with what we do
and not get caught up in the environment of you know,

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the crowd, the opponent, the kickoff time, whatever that is,
and just focus on what we need to do so
we can be the best of our ability. And that
starts with the details. The little things are going to
matter in this game.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Next up was the things about being on the road.
They haven't dropped a true road game since October of
twenty twenty two, So is there a secret sauce? What
what would be a key if there is a secret
to their success on the road.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
You know, I think I think we trust our process.
You know, we've got a real process that we believe
in in our starting this morning and what our practice
plans look like, and the crowd noise that we work with,
and then to Friday's routine, to game day's routine, and
to really toning out what's going on outside of us

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and focus on what's going on between the white lines.
And to your point, we've been in some tough some
tough venues. You know, playing at Kyle Field last year
was it was a tough venue, Playing at Michigan last season,
defending national champs, going to Alabama the year before that.
So we've been in some tough v I think doing
it with confidence knowing that adversity will strike, and then
having a next play of mentality, having the mental toughness

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to persevere to get on the other side of some
of that adversity I think is really important as well.
But mostly it's staying connected. It's staying connected on that sidelines,
being enamored with what we need to do and not
get so caught up in what's going on around us.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
All right.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
The first of the questions surrounding Arch Banning would then follow,
and it just starts off pretty simply. Is there something
specific that he says or emphasize, is or a message
that he has for Arch this week?

Speaker 8 (21:36):
I just it's go be him.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know that.

Speaker 8 (21:38):
That's really our messaging to all of our players, though
you know, you don't have to do anything you've never
done before. You don't have to. We're not asking any
superhuman efforts of you to do anything that is extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Just go be you.

Speaker 8 (21:52):
What you've done is good enough to get us to
this point and to get him to this point in
this juncture of his career. Now, now go play the
way he's people, playing to the style that he's comfortable
doing it. And so I'm not a big.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
You know.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
The best way I speak to our players is me
remaining consistent with who I am, and I think you know.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
One of the.

Speaker 8 (22:14):
Mistakes sometimes coaches can make is having more talks, more conversations,
more one on one meetings than you would normally have. Well,
now I'm out of my I'm out of character for me,
which then in turn can get them out of characters.
So we'll stick to the routine and the plan of
when I meet with the quarterback individually and try to
put ourselves in position to go play well.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
The other one of the big off season questions was
about success in the red zone because it still sticks
with people at key moments in the season last year
where the long horns we're unable to execute for touchdowns
and wind up settling for field goals, or in the
case of the Peach Bowl, a couple of a couple
of misses, although only one of those came when they

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had gotten into the red zone, but there had been
other times, most notably obviously the Cotton Bowl game against
Ohio State. They're late in the contest about not being
able to execute in the red zone, but when Sark
was asked about it, he had a number ready for
the medium.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
So two years ago, okay, two years ago, we were
just over fifty percent touchdowns in the red area. Last
year we were sixty four percent touchdowns in the red area.
So we did make some improvements. We just need to
continue to improve.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
All right, So there you go, all right.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Obviously, folks, remember the failure of executing the red zone
was how the Cotton Bowl game with Ohio State wound
up the loss to Ohio State. And I'll never forget
seeing this. Right after the game ended, somebody had had
put out on social media, Wow, Texas loses to conclude

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its season to the same team that it will lose
to to open next season or something like that. So
you might think, especially with all the returnees, that there
might be some special motivation for that, And Sark was as,
do you have any extra motivation and how do you
utilize that in something like this?

Speaker 8 (24:10):
That was last year's team, different team, different people, different personnel.
You know, you use it when you need it. You know,
I didn't major in it, but I used it when
I needed it. But I felt like, man, we're getting
a little complacent training camps, getting a little mundane. You
kind of always had that in my back pocket. But
it's a different team, you know, different leaders, They've got

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a different team, everybody's you know, it's very different. You know,
at the end of the day, that stone walking out
of the Cotton Bowl, you know, last year. But at
the end of day, this is a new challenge, new journey,
new mission that we're on. And so that's kind of
been our focus, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
And then one other thing, he was asked about the
difference in the in the rosters and and how different,
truly different are these two teams, And then as a
follow asked about Julian saying the young quarterback who will
be Ohio State starter.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, we both lost
some really good veteran players off of last year's teams.
You know, I think about a couple couple of guys
in our secondary Macouba and John A at the front,
Alfred and Vernon obviously, Matt Golden. You know, some really
good players. Some guys on our O line, Kelvin. They
lost some good players too, you know, and the two
backs were great players. The receiver, you know, Julians. Julians

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a really good player as a natural passer. You know,
he's got a quick release. He's a better athlete than
you think he can run. So he definitely need to
be an alert to that and ready for that. But
you know, at the end of the day, you know,
this is gonna be one of those when you go
into the ring with somebody, what's the plan, and then
you get you know, as the rounds go on, you
got to have to be able to adjust. And we'll
have a plan. They'll have a plan, but I think

(25:41):
we're gonna have to be ready to adjust to maybe
some of the new things. They've got a new defensive coordinator,
they've got a new offensive coordinator. You know, uh, you know,
Coach Day obviously he's gonna have his fingerprints all over
the offense. He kind of hired, in my opinion, a
head coach for the defense. And Matt Patricia, he's the
guy's been an NFL head coach, ben with Bill Belichick
and the idea that that he can really be a

(26:01):
head coach on the defensive side of the ball, where
coach Day can really focus on the offense. I think
it was a great addition for them, But ultimately there's
so much new as much as what was old. It's
I think we got to focus on what we need
to do and then be adjustable as the game goes on.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
And one more here during this hour, Sark was kind
of asked, it's almost a rhetorical question about how do
you know, how do you know that you have a
team ready to compete for a national championship.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
That's the thing. We're a long ways away from January nineteenth.
I'm focused on August thirtieth. I'm focused on the next
five days. I'm focused on what do we need to do.
I think that's one of the traps that we can
fall into as a team, is looking to the summit
and not focusing on the first journey of this hike
that we're on, this client that we're on, and so

(26:56):
you know, our challenge the players on that this morning,
you know, today's the most important day. Saturday is going
to be here soon enough. You know this weekend is
the most game. You know down the road is down
the road, So I tend not to get caught day
dreaming and I try to focus on the task at
hand of what's right in front.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Of us, all right.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
So there it is Longhorn's head coach, Steve Sarkisian from
the news conference. M We'll hear more from start next
hour and in the four o'clock hour as well. On
Sports Medio AM thirteen under the Zone, Craig Way with
you alongside Ronald Savage Junior and the new kid on
the block, Jay Herman, producing the Year. This afternoon coming

(27:37):
up in a few minutes, we'll talk some Long Horn
football with Thirdy Longhorn podcasters.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
That would be Nick Schuley and Jeremy Hill.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
So we'll look forward to that and we look forward
to them being a big part of our postgame show.
They will do the local postgame show following our network
postgame coverage of Long Corn football right here on their
flagship station thirteen under the beginning Saturday against Ohio State.
They will follow the postgame show which follows the game,

(28:05):
which kicks off at eleven AM, and our pregame coverage
will begin with Long Orange Game Day at eight a m.
With Cameron Parker and my cardball hearts, let's hear a
little bit more from start before we get to the break,
and then talks some football with Nick and Jeremy. We'll
talk about that coming up, but we left off where

(28:28):
he was asked about you know, how sure are you?
How do you know that your team is ready to
battle for a national championship? And he was quite candid
about it. He said, I don't know, won't know until
we get into the season and see how they do.
You feel good about your team, but until they get
on the field, that's just how it is.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
One of the things the long Worns were doing and
have been doing of late, is working with crowd noise
in the stadium when they've had that on the practice
because it's going to be pretty loud. There'll be over
one hundred and five thousand people in Columbus for the
game on Saturday. Art was asked about crowd noise and
practice and how has that gone for the team?

Speaker 8 (29:06):
They do well, you know, I think I think one
thing that crowd noise does is once you get over
being overwhelmed by the noise, it forces the focus. It
forces you to focus, and inevitably the way we operate
when you're really focused, it better serves us. And so
sometimes I'm wondering if we should be pumping crowd noise
at home too. I feel like we have more penalties

(29:27):
on pre snap stuff at home than we do on
the road, and so, but but there's a reason for that,
I think as we practice it and our guys feel
comfortable with the crowd.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Noise, all right, So that's one thing.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
And then he was asked about getting ready for Ohio
States schemes. How much of this is going to be,
you know, getting ready for what he thinks he'll have
with the schemes versus what he knows he'll see from
the players. It's a schemes versus personnel question, and with

(29:57):
two new coordinators for Ohio State, how that adds into
the mix, whether you're preparing for schemes or players.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
The scheme portion of it is you know, what do
you what are you calling it, how are you designing it?
What are you blocking it? Versus the personnel the player
is how how are you gonna How's that person going
to make it more difficult or maybe less difficult for you,
depending on the strengths and weaknesses of the player. I

(30:24):
you know, my humble opinion is they're not going to change.
Why would you change. They had the number one defense,
you know in the conference, a great run in the playoffs,
they had a really good offense last year. You know,
Coach Day's fingerprints are all over that. They kept the
entire defensive staff outside of the defensive play callers. So
you know, it's kind of like, you know, yeah, they're
gonna They're gonna evolve, just like we evolve every year.

(30:45):
But I think the premise of who they are and
all three phases is going to remain really consistent.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Remember the Long Warns lost some key defensive personnel last year.
So Sark was asked, who do you lean on when
you've lost all those other key defensive leaders.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Well, you just you lean on those guys. You lean
on them throughout the week, you lean on them in
the game in the moment. You want to make sure
they're there in critical moments to make their plays. And
we're fortunate we've got some great people on our team.
You know, you just rattle them all off set, but
there's more than that, even uh, and so we're really
fortunate to have the leadership of those guys who have
been in big time environments and big time games. Uh,

(31:23):
and then you know, hopefully they can pass that that
mindset along. It's not so much how to play, it's
being in the right frame of mind so that you
can play the way that you want to play.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
There are guys who undergo transformations throughout their collegiate careers,
and Ryan Wingo is looking to be one of those guys,
going from being a great athlete and the cake returning
guy and catch a pass to being really the key
weapon in the receiving department for Texas in that receiver's room.
So Sark was asked about Wingo's development at wide Receiver.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
I just think it's development, you know, Joe. It's it's
more like, these guys come in and we can't get
him ready to do everything, and so you're just trying
to put him in position to do some of the
things that they do well. And Ryan was a great
example that a year ago we ran reverses and you know,
shots down the field with him, but all the while
we were trying to develop his game to be a

(32:15):
more complete player. And I think that to his credit,
like Anthony, the most important thing in Ryan Wingo's life
as being a great football player like and he pours
into it every single day and the result is he's
become a better player. And you know, I think that
now it's our job to try to put him in
more positions to have some success.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Next, Sark was asked about the fact that Anthony Hill
had kind of personified what the Longhorns try to do
defensively and what they want to do defensively. Who in
his mind emulates that on the offensive side.

Speaker 8 (32:45):
I could probably point to a few people that way,
but Trey Wisner is a great guy to look to.
I think that guy squeezes every ounce of juice that
he's got into the way he plays the game of football.
And that's the way we want to play. We want
to play with maximum effort, maximum toughness, a sense of
real physicality, but yet with speed. And I think if
we could play that way, that we can do that.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
All right. So there it is.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
There's some conversation from Sart from the weekly news conference
that you heard live this morning at with our coverage
the beginning of eleven and Sart took the podium at
eleven thirty this morning. You'll hear that every Monday live
here on the Zone, and then of course we break
it down and have some thoughts and his thoughts individually

(33:32):
on different subjects. All right, speaking of thoughts coming up,
let's talk some Longhorn football with some.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Podcast guys who know quite a bit about it.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
When we continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
Welcome back to In a Correct Way show and the
Voice of the Lawhorns, Craig.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Follow Craig on social media or voice.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
We're back here reading on a Monday afternoon here on
thirteen under the Zone. Craig Way with you and so
glad to be with you on a what we call
Longhorns Monday. The reason why we call it Longhorns Monday
is because it is the Monday of a Texas.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Long Horn football game week. First time.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
We've been saying that since the final week in December
of twenty twenty four leading up to the Cotton Bowl.
So it's a brand new football season and we had
a brand new announcement today.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
It was really really cool.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
We're excited about this as well now, you know, with
all of our coverage and we're excited about you know,
our Longhorns game day coverage that will begin at eight
o'clock in the morning this Saturday. In addition to that,
we of course bring you the game itself, and then

(35:08):
after the game, we have the network post game. But
this year it's going to be even better and we're
excited about this because the local postgame, in addition to
the network post game we're going to bring you is
in the partnership with Third and Longhorn, and so many
people are so familiar with the podcast that's going on.

(35:30):
Nick Truley and Jeremy Hills a lifetime Longhorn or with us,
and we're glad they drop by. Every time I talk
to you, Nick, it's something like there's something new, there's
something bigger, there's something brighter, there's something more exciting, and
this is the latest thing. And we're pretty pumped up
about this. But for those who might not be completely
initiated into what Third and Longhorn is all about, I

(35:53):
give you the Florida educate them.

Speaker 9 (35:55):
Well, first off, I'm a little bit nervous that our
show has to go after years, Craig, that's not fair.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
No, it's a great wrap up.

Speaker 9 (36:03):
No, well man, it was actually I'm glad it was
Hills that came with me because the whole the whole
synth is of the story of this podcast came from
I was at Jeremy's Jim the Collective, which is like
such a cool playmazing, it's way too cool.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
For me, and I was I was actually there for
a meeting.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
I don't want people to think I was working out there,
because you know, if you look at me, you know
I was not there working out. But Hills was there
with a bunch of there were a few former players
I can't even remember who was there, and they were
just talking talking football. And you know, my background is
I've worked with Lance Armstrong forever and some other people
helped him start his podcast.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
And I'm listening to these guys talking.

Speaker 9 (36:36):
I'm like, I know this is a stupid thing that
everybody says, but you guys need a podcast. And just
to hear the former players talking about it, it was
cool to hear and they and they, you know, everybody
knew what they were talking about. And Hills was like,
let's do it. And I was like okay, and he's like, okay,
but you're gonna run it. I was like, yeah, that
sounds great. You know, I've always been behind the scenes.
Guy's like no, no, no, no, you're gonna like run it,

(36:57):
run it, You're gonna be on it. And I was like,
I don't know about that. He's like, well, if you
don't do it, we're not going to do it. So
that that was kind of that's kind of how that
came about. But it's you know, it's it really is
just a bunch of us talking ball. You know, we
in the off seasons we kind of interview the players,
then during the season we do a little pregame, postgame
and those type of things.

Speaker 10 (37:14):
You kind of laid out the rules for them there,
didn't you, Jared, Oh, absolutely, It's very simple. You get
a couple of former Longhorns and you put them in
a space and you have us talk about something we're
passionate about. It's just gonna turn into a big argument,
a big fight, a big argument offense versus defense.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
That's what it is.

Speaker 10 (37:30):
So having Shuley there, you know, we got somebody to
reel everybody in and kind of move the show along
and then add some unbiased kind of opinions throughout. I'm like,
without Shuley, it's not a show. It's literally just an argument.
He's got to be there just to get it to
just set it all up for you the.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Middle, on purpose, on purpose. I like that.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I like that all right. So when was the first
one you guys did?

Speaker 9 (37:53):
Gosh, it was I think it was October of twenty three, Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
It was coming up in two years.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, wow, Where did you do it?

Speaker 9 (38:03):
So we had my full seven hundred jobs and my
full time gig is I worked for Gary Keller from
Keller Williams, and so Keller Williams has this amazing building
off off a mopack and I remember there was this
room where Gary would teach people and it was it's
only used, you know, one or two times a month
or a few times. So I was like, bet we
could sneak up here film it. It's a beautiful space.

(38:25):
So we go up there filming it, you know, film it.
Everything goes well, we do it again. And then I
went to Gary's assistant. I was like, hey, is that
space available this week? And because all the guys were
already on their way and she's like, oh no, it's not,
sorry about that, and I already had the guys on
the way. She's like, well, why don't you just use
our TV studio? And I was like, well that was
an option. So we ended up you know, we got

(38:46):
we got tight with all the video team there and
they let us, they let us shoot it in there.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
It's phenomenal.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
I mean it's like a TV level studio, and so
we have this beautiful studio, lights, nice cameras, everything, and
it's it's it's been cool, it's been fun.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
So that's where you've done it since?

Speaker 9 (38:59):
Yeah, yeah, it all out of there, right, We've done
some We've since gathered enough equipment to do road shows,
so we'll do stuff, you know, kind of on the
road with some cameras and some mics. But but yeah,
we try to stay to the home space because it's
the easiest to set up and break down.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
All right, how will you manage this when there's a game?
I mean after the game, I mean, what do you
are I'm assuming most, if not all, of your group
is at the game, and it is that the case,
and does everybody have to scramble then to the appointed
meeting place.

Speaker 9 (39:29):
Well, Craig, you've you've pinpointed something that's the hardest part
of doing the show is sure is the stressful you know,
waiting for people to get there, because you know it's
you can't stay the whole game, so you got to
leave it a little bit early. So people generally it's
usually fine. Everybody gets there in time. And the cool
thing about it is it's kind of become this rotating
cast and you guys will see that this year of

(39:50):
like everybody's schedules are different. Certain people go to certain games,
but we just have a rule where there's got to
be three of us there generally to pull it off,
and we always manage. You know, it works out so it'll, uh,
it figures itself out, but it is a little stressful sometimes,
you know, making sure the traffic's okay.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I dare say, all right, So Jeremy helped me out
with something here in my time and this will be
my twenty fifth year of play by play doing the Longhorns,
including I really enjoyed calling the games that you were
a part of. But in my time I've got to
know so many foreign players worked with other ones, like
Will Matthews with us on the sidelines now, and before

(40:27):
that it was Kwan Cosby and before that was Rod Babers,
So we've done different ones and all of those guys
and others I know are part of some secret little
group text thing that you got.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, are you know what I'm talking?

Speaker 5 (40:42):
I don't know exactly what you're talking.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Okay, are you in on that deal?

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I won't confirm, nor did not.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Okay, I understand.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
And you know what, that's probably a smart deal from
what I've heard about it, because I started to say
fact or fiction that group text really sizzles during a game,
good or bad on a given Saturday.

Speaker 10 (40:59):
Listen, Like I said, if surely wasn't a part of
the show, Uh huh, Like this thing could go off
the rail one way or the other, right, But.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
No, it's so much passion.

Speaker 10 (41:08):
Yeah, and it's so many different eras of Texas ball
and one kind of setting. So like what we know
as the path to win? Is it maybe a little
bit different than what DJ thought, Maybe a little bit different.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Than Rod thought, Fozzi, whoever the case may be.

Speaker 10 (41:22):
So yeah, you get all of these guys with all
of these different ideas, but we all agree on one thing.
Run the ball and play defense. If you can do that,
you got a chance to win. Run the ball and
stop the run.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Hey, best athletes on the field. This is objectively speaking guy.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Of course, it is Jeremy Hills and Nick Shuley with
us here on thirteen under the Zone. Okay, how many
will be involved with this? You said they will rotate,
So who are some of the people who will be
involved with this?

Speaker 9 (41:53):
Well, so the actual show is is myself and then
Jeremy DJ Jack Johnson, Fozzie Whitaker, Rob Babers and Alex
okafor So that's there.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
All of you guys at corm and Jewelers yesterday we
were everywhere.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah, I was invited to that. We had a
family thing I had to deal with, so I was
unable to come, but that that had to be a
lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
It was.

Speaker 9 (42:15):
It was really cool, man'. I don't know what you
thought about that place places.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I love Corman.

Speaker 10 (42:20):
This was my first time in there, and like I
was like, oh, this is phenomenal and I will make
sure to keep my hands in my pockets.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yeah, I don't want to break anything. I want to
have a room there.

Speaker 9 (42:29):
That place is that that is a five star hotel level,
Like it's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Did you get to meet Catherine Thornhill, wife of the
one and only Nathan thorn Hill.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Okay, all right, she's.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
The one I work with when I'm you know, trying
to make sure I keep my wife happy.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Were going down there.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
To that deal.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Okay, so so all of those guys are are involved.

Speaker 9 (42:48):
Well so yeah, so obviously during the season, you know,
Rod has some other commitments, and Fozzy has ESPN. Sure
he's out of town ninety five percent. I think he
came on one last year. I think anytime he's in
town he'll come in. But we all I'll still kind
of had this these additional characters who COUP got into
the POSTCIPT show, and Adrian Phillips started showing up and
he's phenomenal and he's definitely he's going to be on

(43:10):
this weekend with us. And then Aaron Williams kind of
became a regular character. And then Hill's like goes to
most of the games. And then we'll just grab somebody
like he brought Joseph Asai. He brought all these guys through.
So it's cool. So sometimes we'll be like, hey, we
got to put up another mic, we got you know,
so and so coming through it's fun because like in
the beginning, like let's call it twenty twenty three, I'm
over here hitting my guys up, like come get on

(43:30):
the show, Come get on there like a you know,
I'll come Now. I see them at the game and
they're stopping me, rack Post stopping me.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Hey we on the show, you know what I mean?

Speaker 10 (43:39):
So now these guys want to be on the show,
and it's fun to have, you know, athletes, people that
you respect, their opinions, that they know the game, and
then you have them come give their immediate response based
on what they've seen from their point of view. I
think that that's a unique kind of insight for a
listener or a viewer, like this is what a ten
year NFL fed All Pro mister everything thinks about the

(44:01):
last sixty minutes of football, right, So like trying to
give those unique perspectives and then you know, having fun
while we're doing it.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, you know what I like in it too, the
way you described it. Back in the sixties, the original
Batman TV show, it became such a hit that all
of these guest stars wanted to be on it. They
all wanted to be a guest villain on Batman. So
would you say that you're all good guys or is
there a villain or two.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Mixed up in there?

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Do they play offensive defense? Oh?

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Is that the key.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
I didn't make the rules, this says the villain. All right,
all right, as Alex. So Alex and Alex.

Speaker 9 (44:36):
And Hills have a pretty good little dynamic of fighting
each other on about everything.

Speaker 10 (44:40):
Out of that though, Alex is one of my best
friends on this planet.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
Like I was there.

Speaker 10 (44:45):
Alex was recruited the year after me and his first
day at UT Like, I remember Alex walking into the
locker room with like all of his gear that he
just got from Chip. Yeah, and he sat down in
a locker across from me, and I remember like me
and Earl Thomas telling him like I think at the
wrong locker like and then like watching Alis walk around
the locker room with all of his stuff trying to
figure out I'm playing man, I said, locker like.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
So I've been.

Speaker 10 (45:08):
I've been knowing and messing with Alex since two thousand
and nine when he first stepped foot on the campus.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
All right, now, you uh you mentioned Aaron Williams.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Uh, Your your time at Texas overlapped, right, Me and
a J would have same recruited, same recruiting lines. Okay,
I'm glad you said AJ. Here's here's the reason why
I always tell this story that you know he came in.
We were talking about Aaron Williams had a McNeil high
and Aeron Williams and this and this and this and
then of course doing Mac brown show every week, and
Mac kept saying Aj and aj aj then and so

(45:37):
so I started calling.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Him a J and I get any email from his dad.

Speaker 10 (45:43):
Oh going. We gave him the name Aaron for a reason.
It's a biblical name and we would appreciate if you.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Call him Eric.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
So I remember telling John Byaka that he said, and
I told Mac that it's the same thing. They said,
Well somebody better tell their kid together, because he told us.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
About it about to say.

Speaker 10 (46:00):
When I met him, he told me his name was Aj.
Now I'm gonna say this is mister Anthony says his
name there.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
He said, you better do that right. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
The reason why I bring that up, Cameron Parker tells
me today he is engineering for Will Matthews over there
and they're doing interviews including Malik Muhammad. Now we all
call him Manny right e Raismond client, What did many say?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Cam? What did he what did what did Malik say
to you today?

Speaker 11 (46:26):
Well, we'll call them Manny and Leak said, please call
me Malik. Sark started it and called me Manny, and
everyone calls him Manny, but he wants to go by Malik.
And the same thing with Sea Baster, he wants to
go by c J. I think a lot of media
just calls him Cedric. You know what, I can't keep up. Yeah,
it's hard. I can't keep up. Couldn't trade the nis
non versus Trey. Now, I did high school state championship

(46:47):
games with guys like Malik Muhammad.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
In high school, they were calling him Manny. I think
sark just seized on it during the recruiting process. And
the same thing with Trey. It was always Trey. The
most celebrated these stories. However, is Matthew Golden Uh last
year and and Sarka didn't calling him Matt Matt, Matt Matt.
So we did that on the post game and and
I asked him during the break, I said, hey, Matthew

(47:12):
or Matt and you know we're up in the broadcast,
but he's down the locker room and he's on the headset.
He goes he said, oh uh, he said call me Matt.
I don't know where the Matthew stuff started. And I said, well,
it's your name. He goes, yeah, but just matt One
week later he's coming in and will tells us right
before we come out of the.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Break, Uh, we gotta go. We got to go with Matthew.
His mom wants Matthew.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
So then so then I went Matthew and we called
him Matthew. And then we got done and I said,
I said, okay, Matthew goes yeah, my mom wanted to
I was like, okay, all duly noted. Wisner comes in
the very next interview and I said, hey, listen, I
want to make sure of this. Uh you know, Golden says,

(47:54):
we got to go by Matthew on that Are you Tray?
He says, oh no, no, you called me Trey, although
TV was call them Contravian. Yeah, Quintravian. And I said,
I don't care, you just tell me.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Yeah. No.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
At the end of the day, I think we can
all agree what mama say. This goes yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
If the parents want that, you know, that's that's that's
just how it is. Okay, So tell people a little
bit about what the actual postgame show. When you're on
the Third and Longhorn Podcast postgame here here on the zone.
What are they actually gonna hear? Are they gonna hear
a breakdown of the game, Are they gonna hear opinion?

(48:33):
Are they gonna hear theory? Are they gonna hear ranting
all the above?

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Yes, yes is the answer.

Speaker 9 (48:38):
No, it's if you if you could have a camera
on us prepping for this thing, it's uh, Mark Haagans,
who produces the show, would be we're back there and
uh and also Derek Joe, who's the other producer. We're
back there pulling stats, like trying to get everything together
because you know, we don't have a line to all
the stats and things like that, so we're we're online
getting everything, getting all our notes prepped, and then generally

(48:59):
we try to go we'll go live ten minutes after
the game. Ten to fifteen's the gold, depending on what
people show up, but it generally do. We'll start with
a quick kind of thoughts on the game, then actually
go through and break it down offense, defense, and my
favorite part of the special teams that no one cares
about with me, so and then so we'll just kind
of walk through that and then we we open it

(49:20):
up to questions on from YouTube, et cetera. And we're
gonna try to We're gonna try to figure out I
think camer and I are going to figure out a
call in or just an email or something like that too,
so that people can send their questions in as they happen,
and we get We were so surprised.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
We didn't know what to expect. You know, we this,
we flipped this thing live.

Speaker 9 (49:37):
We had, you know, ten or fifteen people saying, hey,
you guys should do a post game you do a
preview show, you should do the post game show. And
so we flipped it on expected. You know, we threw
up an Instagram post, so we're going to do it,
and then had five or six hundred people on the
first one. We're like, oh okay, and it just kept
growing and growing and growing with lots of lots of comments.
We skip over a lot of them, you know, from
the other teams, but but we we try to attack

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a lot of them well.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
And I think that's good because I'll be honest and saying,
having been around here a while, I've heard all manner
of postgame and post postgame shows, and a lot of
it just turns out to what we used to joke
if Longhorn game Day was the pregame show, Long Horn
Blame Day was the post game.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
You know they'd been recalling and doing that.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
The best example of all of that that I've always
said this, hand to God, this actually happened. We had
just signed off the air of the Rose Bowl win
over USC National Champions Elation. Everybody's just thrilled and all
that kind of stuff. We get off the air. We
had like an hour and forty five minute network post

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because we were not going off the air until we
got Vy.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
We just weren't. And so we got him and we
got everything done.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
We sign off, We get off the air, take off
the headsets, pack up the bags, we walk out, We
take the elevator down and get in my car to drive,
and then I dial in. I have a call and
dial in number to listen to our postgame show. The
station with the guy who's doing the local post game
square to you. Actual callers said, hey, guys, you know,
and everybody's excited. He because I wanted to say this,

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and he goes, and he goes, I don't want you
to think that I'm just joking. I am serious about this,
he said. I think it's wonderful we won the national championship.
But I gotta tell you, we gave up thirty eight
points to USC and if the defense is not better
next year, we don't have a shot to get back.
I don't know what to think. I'm really frustrated thinking
about this defense.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Dude, they just want an act. He was dead serious.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
So what that confirmed to me is there will always
be some unhappy people no.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Matter what you do.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Absolutely win the national title and there'll be somebody upset.

Speaker 10 (51:43):
In my head at that moment, how do you I
was still I was still in I was in high school.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
I was still running around my apartment. I was elated.

Speaker 10 (51:52):
I can the score was just what we won by
it as well, we could think about.

Speaker 9 (51:56):
The most incredible games ever and you got to I mean,
game is better.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
So my point, as you guys get ready to launch
into this is you may get some unusual responses even
to the biggest moments. Texas could go up and win
fifty sixty three on Saturday, but there will be somebody
complaining about the three points gave up, problems or something.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
That we did.

Speaker 9 (52:18):
I think the funny thing is other teams fans will
tune in. Yeah, but it's not totally what you expect.
A lot of them are very nice and respectful, saying, hey,
you guys do it. You know, you guys are pretty
pretty fair in this thing, and you know it's not
too we're you know, ninety something percent burn orange glasses here,
but we're also going to call things how they are.
And so we were very surprising. We have a lot

(52:39):
of like nice Georgia fans who write in and say, hey,
I watch your show every week. Nicest people. Why got
nothing negative to say about? Yeah, got nothing negative to say.

Speaker 10 (52:47):
They're on there telling us like, hey, obviously you guys
bleed brun orange.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
You can obviously tell that.

Speaker 10 (52:52):
But of the post game shows I've seen, this one
is probably the most fair in its assessment, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
And I'm like, well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
That's how we try to where you're getting your highest
compliments and people are people are saying that. You know,
if they're saying that, you're presenting kind of a fair
and balanced viewpoint, even if you're presenting it from the
perspective of hoping.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
And that's what we strive for in the broadcast boat.
You know, we were gonna.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Screen dollar or holler homer stuff. We're gonna get excited
when Texas wins. I always say, everybody can always tell
who I want to win the game, right, But the
most important thing is to transmit the message of what
happened in the game.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
And I think you guys look at it the same way.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
Yeah. I think we try.

Speaker 9 (53:30):
We try to be I wouldn't say unbiased, because we
are biased, but but also it is it's like we
try to try to give a good educated opinion, to
give credit where credits to it, and a lot OF's
I mean, what how do you that the first Georgia
game last year, how do you how do you not
give credit to Georgia for coming out and punching us
in the mouth.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
That's what happened.

Speaker 9 (53:49):
And so yeah, I to sit there and be like, oh,
you know, Touxas didn't play well and George you know,
Georgia got Look it's like, no, that's that's not why,
that's not the that's not the football game. We watch
a different game. Yeah, hey, you lived through some of that.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Remember the sixty three, twenty one, fifty five, seventeen, and
sixty third, Well sixty three fourteen predated you.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
But some of those others. You remember some of those oh.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
You games, And there's some games where it is what
it was right and you can only call it for.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
What it was.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
But the art of it, I think, is being able
to say what happened why without it getting too personal
about why this play wasn't made and why that particular
player did was unable to make the play, rather than
just pointing a finger and saying this guy sucks.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
It's not good.

Speaker 10 (54:36):
I mean Major halfway kind of like would hammered at
home right because Major was tough. Major was a tough
football coach to play for. But he would always tell us,
like I'm always speaking to a performance. I'm never speaking
to the man, and I want you guys to know that.
Like if I'm speaking to you as a man is
when I'm asking you how your mom's doing. That's when
I'm asking how your grades are. Like when I'm talking
anything football, I'm talking to the player and the performance.

(54:59):
So like Nowaday, you know, my playing days are well done,
and now I'm like evaluating and have the responsibility of
trying to deliver you know, fair assessments as people are
listening and watching. I think of it the same way
of like, hey, I'm speaking to a performance if we
got less than you know, three four yards per carry
on the offense, and I'm looking at the run game,
I'm saying, hey, when we're running our split zone, we

(55:20):
got to be able to climb up to the second level.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
If we don't, we'll never have success.

Speaker 10 (55:23):
There nothing that you can plug in any player you want, right,
That's a fact.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
So that's all it has to be what it has
to be.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
That's kind of how I try to look at it.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, okay, all right, Now before I let you guys go,
I want to your your place.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
The collective is amazing. I've seen lots of the reports
on it and heard so many people talk about how
did it come to be?

Speaker 10 (55:43):
And so I've been in the high level performance training
space now for thirteen years. And did you start to
get interested in it after you had your first knee injury?
Exactly what happened after my first knee injury. Through my
rehab process, I was like just in interested in how
I was being put back together right, and I had

(56:04):
an amazing staff that helped me through that rehab. And
then on the back end of that, my thoughts around
just performance training overall had changed, right. I didn't just
think bigger, faster, stronger. I more thought in the lens
of like longevity and performance, working as one that's like
fueled with like a nutrition, and understanding how recovery works.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Right.

Speaker 10 (56:24):
So it's just like anything, exposure creates interests. Interests goes
into education, Education goes into doing things that we've done better.
So that same process did that there. I went into
training pro athletes and college athletes for over a decade,
and that gave me the opportunity to get into education,
and you know, long story long, started teaching both domestically
and internationally to physiotherapists and exercise physiologists and taught now

(56:46):
in six different countries. One of the I was in
Dubai for a little bit and seeing a facility that
blew me away really in two thousand and spring of
twenty nineteen. Okay, and now it's one of those things
where exposure happens, right. I can't get this thought out
of my mind of what I just witnessed. They had
everything you can imagine, and I was like, hey, what

(57:08):
if we expose the general public to the level of
care in a facility that the professional athlete is accustomed to,
and then what if we attracted the same high level performers,
whether it was the business professional or the professional athlete,
and then what happens in that building. So we had

(57:28):
way more questions and answers, and then we had a
problem that we were trying to solve for COVID happened.
And then I think on the back end of COVID,
we can all agree that health became a priority for
a lot of people that didn't have it as a
priority before. And so we kind of grab lightning in
the bottle and fast forward. Out of twenty twenty five,
we have two packed out facilities here in Austin building

(57:49):
number three in Nashville and working them from there. So
it's been a fun journey of fun ride. And even
as we were walking in the building here with Nick,
I was like, don't get me wrong, that's my life's
passion and that's like what I feel like I'm put
here to do. I don't have anything in my life
house sad of being a father that's more fun than
what we do on the show every week. I got you,

(58:09):
so like this is probably the most This is the
department so much fun.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
I'm having a blast. The best.

Speaker 9 (58:16):
The best part about Jeremy's story with fitness is that's
how I actually met him. I was working with Lance
Armstrong and Lance was getting trained by Jeremy, and so
we went up to the gym he was working at
at the time, and Lance was like, come on, man,
just work out with us, you know, And and so
you look at Jeremy and you know Lance Armstrong's level
of fitness. And I was in pretty good shape at

(58:36):
the time, but like, was not ready for this. They
do a fifteen minute warm up, and I thought I
was dying.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
I'm not lying like they in the warm up.

Speaker 9 (58:45):
In the warm up and and well I felt a
little better because one of the ladies who worked there
was struggling too. But after about twenty minutes, I tapped
out and and so I was like, Okay, that's that's
next level athlete.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Here's here's where I am.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Where do you do you? What do you like training better?
The non professional or the professional?

Speaker 10 (59:04):
Honestly, the professional athlete has a mentality that they like
they gotta have it right. There's a there's a different
level of hunger there, and it's a necessity because this
is a part of like typically how they feed their family. Sure, right,
So it's a different level of intensity that's that's brought
to the session every single day. But the education in
the aha moments that happen when you're just training, like anyone,

(59:28):
I think I'm starting to enjoy that more. And I'm
gonna say that's after I became very gratific. That's after
I became a father as well.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Right.

Speaker 10 (59:36):
You enjoy like when the light bulb goes off for
people and then you know they start getting addicted to
the work that it takes to have the success that
they want.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Well, I know everybody's gonna enjoy this program that you
you have to check it. I mean, first of all,
they can just watch it where they're getting their podcast anyway, right.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Yeah, we're on YouTube.

Speaker 9 (59:56):
We stream it through Instagram live and said and at
ex live I guess, Twitter live whatever, and so you
can catch it most places. But we're so excited to
be on you know, thirteen hundred's it's pretty awesome to
be on the official thing and to get to follow
you for real, like it's a it's gonna be an
awesome thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Well, we'll add it to my drop in cards to
plug it a little bit there from We appreciated Nick Jeremy,
thanks for coming by, Nick Juley Jeremy Hills here with
the third and Longhorn podcast. Get it where your podcast
are and starting this Saturday, it's the local postgame show
right here on thirteen hunderd the Zone. Glad to have
you with us. This is a Longhorns Monday where normally

(01:00:38):
during the course of the week, what we'll do is
recap the long worn game from Saturday, and then after
we recap and we'll hear obviously press conference sound just
like we have heard some of today, We're gonna hear
more from Sark coming up as this out or progresses,

(01:01:02):
and so normally that's what we do. We also once
we get into the NFL season, which is coming up,
and we'll be a week from this weekend, so it'll
actually starts a week from Thursday night when the Cowboys

(01:01:25):
play the Eagles, and that will be the way that
it goes, starting off on Thursday on September fourth, so
we'll we'll recap the Cowboys as well and the rest
of the NFL. So that's that's how we're going to

(01:01:46):
do it. During the course of longhorns. Monday, so long
worn Monday's every Monday here on thirteen on the Zone.
But we do other things as well, and that includes
some other recapping. For example, the PGA Tour Championship was yesterday,

(01:02:06):
finished up yesterday and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
It was the final leg of the FedEx Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
And congratulations to Tommy Fleetwood who finally was able to
break through and win on the PGA Tour. He finished
at eighteen under part He went sixty four in the
first round sixty three and the second sixty seven to
third shot sixty eight yesterday and wound up winning by
three shots over Russell Henley and Patrick Cantley. They finished

(01:02:41):
tied for second, then in a tie for fourth and
fourteen under. You had Cameron Young, you had Justin Thomas,
and you had Corey Connors, and he had Scotty Schffler.
Scheffler continues his streak of subpar rounds. He went sixty three,
sixty nine, sixty six, sixty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
He didn't win.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
And while some folks may have been a little stunned
by the fact that he that there was a big
time tournament that he didn't win, considering he won, you know,
two of the four major championships, won more events than
anybody else on tour.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
This year, won five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Just yesterday alone, he pulled in for a tie for
fourth finish, a one two three four way tie for fourth.
Actually a three way tie for fourth, I said, Justin Thomas.
He finished one shot further back at minus thirteen, so
it was a three way tie for fourth. Corey Connors,

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Cameron Young, Scotti, Shffler. That tie for fourth Earn Scheffler
two million, six hundred and sixteen thousand, six hundred and sixty
seven dollars so in the Ryder Cup standings, Scheffler of
course far and away number one player there on the

(01:04:02):
Ryder Cup team over thirty seven thousand points. And then
it's pretty tight from there on out, JJ Sponds and
Er Shoffley, Russell, Henley, Harris, English Brice and Shamba, Justin Thomas,
Colin Morrikawa, Ben Griffin, Maverick mcneelye, Keegan Bradley's the captain
of course, it's all very very close with regard to that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
The the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
About this, this whole thing with the Tour Championship and
winning the FedEx Cup and again Tommy Fleetwood deserves his congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
He got that really nice looking trophy yesterday and he
won ten million dollars for it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
But somewhere along the way, somebody, I don't know if
it was never TV or the I don't think it
was the PGA, but those who followed golf had gotten
the idea that whoever won the Tour championship was the
best golfer in the world. I didn't say number one ranked.

(01:05:07):
We know who's number one, but it was the quote
unquote best golfer in the world. Now, like I said,
it was a big event for Tommy Fleetwood to win
his first PGA tournament in his one hundred and sixty
fourth start. So he won the FedEx Cup, he won
ten million dollars, but he's not the number one player

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in the world, as some wanted to claim just because
it was the FedEx Cup. Scheffler is the number one
player obviously. He had a substantial lead in that and
at the end of the year the official World Golf

(01:05:50):
ranking has him number one. Rory McElroy number two, Xanders
Schoffley third, Russell Henley fourth, Justin Thomas fifth. Tommy Fleetwood
with that win booed up to number six. JJ Spond seventh,
Colin Morricawa eight, Robert McIntyre ninth, Harrising was ten, and
Keigan Bradley just outside the top ten and number eleven.

(01:06:11):
So anyway, that it's probably important to point that out
because while some folks had gotten on the bandwagon about
this is a question we had been talking about for
a while that if you win the tour championship, it's great,
and you are the FedEx Cup champion, that's great, and

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you win ten million dollars, that's really great, but it
does not mean that you're the number one golfer in
the world or the best golfer in the world or whatever.
And I don't even think Fleetwood would even debate that.
Like I said, it was his one hundred and sixty
fourth career start on the PGA Tour, so he collected
the cup the prize money. He said, it's easy for

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anybody to say they are resilient, that they bounce back,
that they have fight. It's different than you actually have
to prove it. He's thirty four years of age. He
won seven times on the DP World Tour and three
other times around the world, but he had never won.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
A PGA tournament until yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
And Rory McElroy said, it chose how great of an
attitude he has toward the game, how resilient he is
if he gets it done today. Getting it done today
was amazing. So he has thirty top five finishes at
thirty without a victory, the most in the PGA Tour
in the past one hundred years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
According to ESPN's research.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Thirty three and a half million dollars in career earnings,
the most for a golfer who hadn't won on tour.
But now he's won, so that nightmare is over all right.
Coming up next, we're going to go back to hearing
sound from coach. Start from this long warns Bunday right
here on thirteen under the zone. Continue on the long

(01:08:13):
words Monday here on thirteen hundred the Zone. Let's get
to a few questions. Seatbals that he felt bad for
Scottie Scheffer, but don't feel too bad. Guys won tens
of millions of dollars this year. He's the number one
golfer in the world. He won more tournament, said anybody else,
don't feel too bad about him. Seat, I think he'll
be all right. I was doing the Major League Baseball

(01:08:35):
story but they talked about no Bob's in the league
that somebody said before Bobby wit j No, no, no, no,
nobody said Bobby.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
He said Bob. People go by Bob.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
H somebody said last I can remembers Bobby Wit Bobby
wit Junior is playing. That's Bobby. That's not Bob. That's
what they're saying to Bob. And then somebody else wing
Bob Horner. If you just going Bob, Yes, another comment,
no comment needed, but I do feel compelled to comment
on this. They said the documentary on lead Course on

(01:09:06):
ESPN is really good. I coach the guy who punted
for him in Indiana. My buddy was from Cold Spring,
Texas define Seebal And yes I did watch it. I
think Lynn and I watched it Friday night. We really
did enjoy it, going all the way back to when
we were talking about the angry fan after Texas won
the national championship. So I'm a Buckeye fan and I'm
already mad about the quarterback play. On Saturday, Chuck and

(01:09:31):
Houston asking how many long WRN fans expected. I think
Ohio State allotted four thousand tickets for the opponent. I
think it'll it'll be the same whatever it is for
that will be allotted to them when they come in
next year. And Chuck says it doesn't matter that Washington

(01:09:53):
doesn't doesn't matter, or as he said, Redskins, the commander
is down there. You know Chuck's and Houston, Chuck. You know,
there's a lot people up here that don't really like
the Texans either, and there's a lot of people in
Houston that don't like the Cowboys either. That's how it's
spread out like that. I said to go easy on
Jake on his first day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
So you've been buying large. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
We had a question also Jay coming in we did.
Dean asked ready for high school football? Who's your favorite
for state champs?

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Okay, I am ready, And of course I won't be
doing a game this week as I head up to Ohio,
but then I'll start doing those. There's going to be
some streaming telecaster Victory Plus that's the sports app that
do the Dallas Stars, and I think they do the
Anaheim Ducks and they've got some other teams as well.

(01:10:45):
But they're gonna start doing it live Friday night high
school football Game of the Week from across the state
of Texas, and I'm doing most of their regular season
games whenever Texas is in town anyway, so I won't
be doing They're opening this week, I think is Alito
and Debton guy er Josh Bogerat, who normally does the
play by play for the Dalla Stars, actually calling that game.

(01:11:07):
He's got a lot of high school football experience from
up in Idaho, and I believe he's working with Brad
McCoy Coltstad who's worked with me on some state championships.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
So that's gonna be a victory plus. And then my
first game will be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Next week a week from this Friday, will be Cedar
Park against Vandigrid, so that'll be Audam Monroe. I'll look
forward to calling that one. So yes, who do I
think your favorite? Listen call me local homer guy. But
I do think that both of two, for sure, maybe

(01:11:40):
even three of the Greater Austin Area powers and six
A have a chance to win. Westlay got to the
finals last year in six A Division one and I
lost to North Crowley, who's probably going to be the
favorite in six AD one again. I give Vandergriff a
good shot to try to repeat the course of the
team they beat.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
South Lake.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Carrol is the pick of a lot of people, including
Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, So I do like him.
I even thinking Lake Travis has a good shot as well.
So we'll see how that coach. All right, let's go
back to some sound from long Worn's head coach Steve Sarkisian.
And as we listen in to some of this, the

(01:12:23):
next thing that we wanted to get to with Sark
was more questions as you might imagine, about Arch Banning
and Sark was asked, what kind of leadership qualities are
you looking for for Arch? And is preparedness to get

(01:12:43):
ready for this season.

Speaker 8 (01:12:45):
He's just prepared well. He's practiced well, and he's had
to go against our defense every day. He's been in
these environments. You know what, It's not like we didn't
put him in the game in the semi final game
last year. We put him in the game at Texas
A and M. He's had to go in. Now he
just gets to play more snaps, which I know he's
excited about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Roger Wallace, my broadcast partner, A Longer with Football, asked
Sark a question about the guys he's looking for to
step up, because especially on the defensive side, when you
think about the guys who were back there in the
secondary and the ones in the linebacking corps and on
the defensive front as well, the ones who have moved on,

(01:13:24):
who were some of the guys that can lead this
team when they face adversity.

Speaker 8 (01:13:29):
Michael taff, Anthony Hill, Colin Simmons, those guys. You know,
it's the same like every year, these guys evolve and
the next guy grows up, and so you try to
lean into those veteran players that have been there before,
and you know, make sure that they're a calming force
for the rest of the guys out there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Okay, so who are those calming forces if you have
to have some other calming forces.

Speaker 8 (01:13:51):
I think we'll find out more after this game kind
of who we are. Like I've said this before, it's
a little bit of coach speak, but I think it's true,
Like this one game's not going to define our season,
but we're gonna learn about We're gonna learn a lot
about ourselves. Naturally, we want to win, but it's not
going to define us whether we win or we lose.
But we're gonna we're gonna get a ton of information

(01:14:12):
out of this game that to your point, right, what
is the personality of this team and where can we
lean into that so that we can accentuate it and
make it more of us once it starts to you know,
kind of reveal itself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
So speaking of revealing, we've talked about the differences between
Texas and Ohio State, and there are indeed unique differences
of these teams from last year to this year. It
doesn't mean they both aren't still very very good. There's

(01:14:46):
just some nuanced differences between the teams. And Sark would
certainly point that out when he was asked what he
learned about playing Ohio State based on last year's game alone.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
A really good you know, Ryan's done a great job recruiting,
and they're very well coached. This is not They're not
a gimmick team at all, you know, And I say
that loosely, like I don't mean to offend anybody, but
the things that they do are sound, and so you
have to beat them. And inevitably, when two really good

(01:15:20):
teams meet each other, that's where you're trying to minimize
those mistakes, because good teams capitalize on those mistakes, and
so we've got to be very detail oriented, minimize the
self inflicted wounds, which I think we hurt ourselves with
last year. Got to take care of the ball, you know,
I feel like the turnovers heard us last year. And
then to to everyone's point, you got to score and

(01:15:41):
you have opportunities to score against good teams.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
All right, If you thought we were done with questions
about arts banning, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
come on, He's going to be asked about arts a lot.
This particular question had to do with his growth over time,
and it rolled back even to mentioning when he arrived
on campus as a true freshman two years ago, lost
his student ID twice, those kinds of things to where

(01:16:08):
he is now getting set to lead the number one
ranked college football team onto the field. So Sart was
asked about his growth and his personality over time.

Speaker 8 (01:16:21):
Art is a great kid man. He is now, He's
an awesome young man. He's bought into every aspect of
our program. He's been a great teammate, He's worked extremely hard.
I think he's enjoyed college and he should. But at
the end of the day, I just feel like he's
normal and that's what I love about him. It's not

(01:16:42):
some guy who feels like he's untouchable, he's better than
everybody else. He doesn't go about he doesn't do life
like that, never mind football like that. And to me,
that probably the best part of his evolution is that
he hasn't changed on that aspect of who he is,
Like he stayed true to who he is the way
he raised and I think that that's really garnered a

(01:17:03):
lot of respect from his teammates and the coaches by
the way he conducts him to conducts himself on a
daily basis and the way he represents all of us,
because you know, as much as I get up here
and talk to y'all, you know I can't. You can't
go with the day without seeing somebody talking about Arch Manning.
And so he's a he's a direct representation of our
football program in this university, and the way that he

(01:17:24):
conducts himself is one that I think, you know, we're
all proud of and one that we respect him for
the way that he does it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Next, Sark was asked about one of the new editions
on the receiving Corps and at mostly the Stanford Transfers
had been hobbled and trying to get back in and
sark give us an update on him.

Speaker 8 (01:17:41):
Yeah, he's been limited, which is you know, I think
we all would want him to be able to have
been going the whole time with us right now. He's
a very good football player, a guy who had an
immense amount of production in only nine games at Stanford
a year ago, and I think that for him, the
growth is going to be as the season continues to go.
Like I always think back to Matt Golden last year,

(01:18:02):
where going into the season, I don't think I maybe
even feel that a question about him before the first
couple of games, but by the end of the year
he was the topic of discussion. And so his evolution
as the season goes on, I think is going to
be really important as he gets more and more comfortable
with us.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Interesting in talking about trying to get you know, trying
to get him up and running and everybody else all
on the same page. Back to that thing about road environments.
Not only has Texas under Steve Sarkisian been successful in
true road games, they have professed several of the guys
I heard Michael Taff talking about this the other day.

(01:18:43):
They have professed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Kind of a joy or an enjoyment and a lot
of fun of playing on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
And you know, I know, we've heard a lot of
guys talk about, you know, whether it's in us against
the world mentality, whatever that that whatever that entails. A
lot of guys like getting away from home. And I've
also heard coaches say this that sometimes they would prefer

(01:19:15):
the road game to the home game because a lot
of their guys feel less pressure away from home, mainly
because they don't have family and friends that are dealing
with tickets and you know how they're knowing that they're
in the stands and all watching them. It's not like,

(01:19:38):
you know, I always found that kind of funny because
it's not like those same people who were loyal fans,
some of whom are season ticket holders. But even if
they just go to see a friend or a relative
who's on the football team play, does that mean that
they're not going to watch them at all when they're
on the road. Of course, not most of them are gonna,
you know, and a lot of them will make road

(01:19:58):
trips too, But those who don't, certainly they're going to
be watching them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
But it's almost as if.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
That's in a different category than if those eyes are
trained on you from the stands, So Sark kind of
falls into that category as well. He was asked, why
does he enjoy the road environment so much?

Speaker 8 (01:20:16):
I love him. I've never been to the Shoe, you know,
I had never been to Michigan last year. I had
never been. I've been to Kyle Field one time a
year before that, and obviously I'd spent time in Tuscaloosa.
But I love it. I thin it's cool for college football.
I kind of enjoyed people telling me how terrible I
am and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:20:35):
It kind of fuels my fire a little bit. So No,
but it should be a great environment. I'm looking forward to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Okay, there's another element here to all of this, and
maybe this has changed a little bit because of the
expansion of the college football playoffs. The playoff is currently
a twelve team format. Now, what was pointed out by many,

(01:21:02):
including right here in this space on this program the
other day, when it was announced that the SEC would
go to nine conference games starting next year, was that
it would probably hasten or at least let's just say,
open the door, pave the way, make it a lot

(01:21:23):
easier for the college football Playoff to be expanded. Now,
whether it's sixteen teams, I think I've seen twenty, I've
seen twenty four, I've seen twenty eight. That's the Big
ten proposal. How did it even work? I guess maybe

(01:21:46):
it's kind of like the doubling up of the NFL
playoff picture, where seven teams make it out of each
conference and then you just double it back over for
twenty eight. But it was also theorized by I think
it was Stuart Mandel, and I was thinking about this

(01:22:07):
even as I talked about it the other day, and
I do agree with this that maybe, just maybe this
early resolution of the college football Playoff being expanded because
of the expansion of the Big TWI of the SEC

(01:22:28):
conference schedule to nine conference games, that it will hasten
this And Mandel went as far as to say, maybe
that will just I think the title of a story
or the headline was help get rid of the big tense,
hair brained idea of a twenty eighteen playoff. So maybe

(01:22:52):
maybe And you know, people who have listened to me
for a long time understand that I'm a big more
is more guy. I was in favor for a long
time when you had you know, the BCS going and
you only had the two teams. I was a long

(01:23:13):
time proponent of this is going to be a playoffs.
It's got to be bigger, bigger, bigger. Even when they
got to four, I was like, Okay, it's a step,
but it needs to move up. Twelve came along and
I said, twelve is good. I think the ideal number
is sixteen. I've just felt sixteen felt right. It was
a good number. You could get a requisite amount of

(01:23:35):
not only the conference champions, but the at large as
as well. You won't satisfy everyone, no one. Everyone has
never satisfied everyone. Not everyone is satisfied, but it would
satisfy the majority people, just like the sixty eighteen format
does for the NCAA basketball. Yeah, there are those who

(01:23:55):
want more and there are those who won less, but
by a large sixty eighteen field works all right. I
think the sixteen team field would work all right as well.
And maybe it'll get to that, maybe that'll be the
next thing. But the nine game SEC schedule will help
pave the way for that. And so Sark was asked

(01:24:16):
about the value of these non conference games, these big
time non conference games. Think about this, Texas plays Ohio
State in Columbuses year. Next year they play Ohio State
at home. Twenty twenty seven, they play Michigan at home
the return game from last year's trip dann Arbor twenty nine,

(01:24:38):
they have a home and home of Notre Dame. Then
they've got Arizona State, I believe, on the schedule. So
they're set for Power five opponents through the rest of
the decade, which is a mandate coming down from the
Southeastern Conference from the commissioner's office. You got to play
at least one Power five school. Get it on your schedule.
Texas already has that through the end of the decade

(01:24:59):
on that. But he was asked at the news conference
about the value of the high profile non conference game
in a day and age where the college football Playoff
is going to be expanded, and start liked the benefit
of it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:14):
Yeah, No, I think it serves us well in preparation.
As I said, for the remainder of the season what
we have to do, you know, and you look at
some of these other road games that we have to
go on, Like I really think going to Michigan early
in the year helped us and gave us a lot
of confidence going to Kyle Field at the end of
the year because our players got exposed to so much

(01:25:35):
of what it was like to be on the road
in a hostile environment. So, you know, the goal is
that this can serve well for that as well as
well as the speed of the game, the physicality of
the game. You know, you're looking at two you know,
highly talented rosters with really good coaches, and so the speed,
the physicality of which it will be played at is
going to be something that is going to be, you know,

(01:25:55):
really replicated when we get into SEC play. How it
affects the nine game, I don't know yet. I've spent
about twenty seconds thinking about that when that announcement came out.
But you know, so I don't know if if it
affects that so much moving forward, but I know it'll
affect us this year, which I think for in a
good way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
All Right, we're gonna hear some more from long worn
head coach Steve Sarcasian more on this and how it
may be affected an impact in terms of future schedule
and the way it goes. I just laid out some
of the things about it, but we'll hear him talk
about that and the value that it has with his
football team playing a game like this against an opponent

(01:26:39):
like this and opening on the road. You know, in
the first hour of the program that the first question
out of the box was from Danny Davis at the
statement about would you rather play this thing second.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Game, third game, whatever, and not have to open with it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
And he said, yeah, there's always some that you wish
you had a little more of your own team on
the he said, but as long as both teams are
dealing with the first game, he said, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
And that's the case here, all right. We'll hear some
more from Longrorn's head coach Steve Sarkisian when we continue
on thirteen under.

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Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
On the text line or man. Chuck and Houston said,
it's going to get to a point where there's sixty
four like in basketball. I don't think you'll have sixty four,
but there's one hundred and thirty six now. Division one
FBS teams. The two latest ones to join that move
up from FCS to FBS or Delaware and Missouri.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
State, which used to be the old Southwest Missouri State.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
And the really interesting piece I read over the weekend
ESPN dot com about Delaware's move really about both of
those teams, but the challenges, the cost and the benefits
of moving up to play FBS football, and not everybody
in Delaware was down with it. There was someone said,

(01:28:18):
you know, we could go into every season because they
would usually have a ranked quite often a highly ranked
FCS program, the Blue Hens from Newark, Delaware and someon
would say, we could go into every season thing we
had a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
To win a national championship. We don't have that hope anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
That is true, but for the lower end of Division
one FBS, and I think those programs are going to
be a Conference USA in the lower end of that.
Sam Houston is a perfect example of that. Sam Houston
is going to come in and play Texas on the

(01:28:55):
twentieth they joined, and remember Sam Houston won a national
title coming off of the pandemic. So they've been to
the mountain top of FCS. But they will tell you
many of whom I know that a bigger thrill was
getting into and winning their first ever bowl game last
year Texas State. The year that Texas won the National

(01:29:17):
Championship in football two thousand and five, Texas State out
of the final four that year the semifinals in FCS.
But they will tell you getting to their first two
bowl games each of the past two years and winning
both of those games has been a landmark achievement for
the athletic progra Look at them now about to take

(01:29:38):
a step into the PAC twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
I know it's three constitute a PAC twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
You only of Washington State and Oregon status the founding
members there, original members there from what was and you're
going to have basically replacements coming in from the Mountain
West with Wyoming and Boise State and Utah State and
Fresno State and San Diego State, a couple of other
states I hadn't even thought of, but anyway, they're all
going to be in there, and Texas State will be

(01:30:04):
in there. But it is a step up for the
athletic program. I remember, you know, I went to North
Texas and as a student was added to the broadcast
crew on their radio network with my broadcast mentor and
the voice of the Mean Green for thirty five years,
Bill Mercer, and we were excited in nineteen eighty three

(01:30:25):
when Texas, when North Texas won the Southland Conference championship
and got to go to the FCS playoffs back then
playing what was called Nevada areno now just it's Nevada,
and lost a game in overtime in that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
But I can tell you when the Mean.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Green went back to Division one status and got into
bowl games and won bowl games, it was it was
an even bigger thrill for them because there's always that
hope of being competitive on that level at some point.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
Look at Boise.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Boise was a program that was FCS, but they already
a course to get into Vision one FPS. I know
they're an exception to the rule, but what a grand
exception they are making the College Football Playoff a year ago.
So anyway, those are some important things to keep in
mind about that. All right, Let's hear a little bit
more from Loggorn's head coach Steve Sarkeesian.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
In talking about this this business of.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Playing a high caliber non conference opponent and playing them
on the road again. Sark was asked about could you
foresee playing some opponents like this in the future, Well,
the person asked the question might not have taken a
look at that future schedule for Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
I just outlined it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
Ohio State here next year, Michigan here the year after,
home and home of Notre Dame the next two years,
and then I think they've got Arizona State. So playing
Power five opponents is definitely on the schedule for Texas.
Their non conference schedule isn't completely filled out through the
end of the decade. Most of it is Texas. Tate
comes in here next year, UTSA will be here on

(01:32:00):
even number of years the rest of the decade, but
not every non conference matchup is set. So it is
certainly an apropos question about that as well as what
kind of personality does this team have.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
They're a.

Speaker 8 (01:32:20):
Very fun and I know that you're gonna think that's
a fun team. They're fun in a way that they
do a lot of things with a lot of confidence.
They do it with a real sense of like vigor.
They're hungry, they're tough, but yet they can have fun
doing it along the way. And so I enjoy that
because that's a little bit of my personality. You know,
I'm very intense in the moment, but I do like

(01:32:42):
to have a good time. We work too hard not
to enjoy what we get to do, and these guys
give me that sense and that feeling. Well, I do
enjoy that. I guess to answer your second question, I
hope we're playing a lot of high ranked teams. That
means we're probably in the playoffs and winning some more games.
So I hopefully we can continue to play highly ranked teams,
and I hopefully you can continue to schedule games like this,

(01:33:05):
because I do believe these games help us for the
remainder of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Yeah, he had mentioned about that playing Michigan last year
on the road helped for when they had to play Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
A and m Mikyle Field last year, and maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
There's some little bit of residual carryover for those who
are returning to the team. About this road trip to Columbus, okay,
he was asked about his defense again and the elements
of play that they have and the confidence that is
accrued from that and how his team responds to things

(01:33:42):
like that.

Speaker 8 (01:33:43):
Well, it's helpful, you know, And I said before throughout
training camp, we've got a lot of talented players on
the defensive side of the ball. We've got a lot
of continuity on the defensive staff. PK obviously year five.
You know, all the players here know him, know how
he likes to call it. We've eva the years.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
But but the.

Speaker 8 (01:34:02):
Fact that we can go play quality defense on the
road against a high quality opponent is going to be
critical because you know, I don't know how the game's
gonna go. I'd love to fast start, really fast on
offense and be clicking on all cylinder cylinders. We may not,
you know, And so if that's the case, you need
your defense. You know, we may be clicking on all
cylinders on offense and then you might have some turnovers

(01:34:25):
that happens, then the defense has got to respond. And
so to have veterans on the defensive side of the
ball that are quality players with that coaching staff, I
think is important in a game like this on the road.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
To start the season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
A couple other things from Sark. One about the offensive line,
because with one returning starter, J Campbell, and that offensive line, uh,
there are plenty of guys who have experience even if
they weren't starters, and there will be four guys on
that line who didn't have extensive starting experience. He was

(01:35:00):
asked whether he would have Trevor Gooseby ready, and he
said yes, so Gooseby of course remember at the Star
when Calvin Banks had had the sprained ankle last year
late in the season. But the depth behind him certainly
gets tested as well, along with the youth.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
And who was asked who has really impressed him with
their development on the O line.

Speaker 8 (01:35:24):
Yeah, I've been really impressed with Connor Strow. I thought
he's had a really nice training camp. You know, Connor
Roberson is another guy who's had a really good training camp.
I think Jayden Chapman has really come on the last
two and a half weeks. So those three guys on
top of those other five I feel very comfortable with.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Yeah, there's a couple of Connors there. We're talking about
all those Connors in Major League Baseball. There's a couple
of Connors on the offensive line. And finally, Sarko's asked
one more time about the non conference scheduling, but this
was from a different perspective.

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
How involved is he.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
In the non conference scheduling and will non conference schedule
and continue to have the impact many field that will
have on the college football playoff and how that all
factors into it about making sure you've played quality enough
opponents so that you can you know, yes, win some games,
build up a requisite record, but also have the quality

(01:36:21):
schedule that helps you reach the college football playoff. And
so he was asked about that, starting with how involved
is he in the actual non conference scheduling.

Speaker 8 (01:36:30):
I don't you know, between CDC and his team, they
go come and they go find the right mixes and
matches because you may want to play a team, but
it's got to fit their schedule, and they're timing what
their schedule looks like. And then the end when it
comes to me, you know, I get a chance to
say yeah, your nay, you know, yeah let's do it
or not. I don't love that. What are the other options?

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:36:50):
So it's a collaborative effort, but CDC really takes the
lead on a lot of that stuff with his team
and does a great job. You know, we our schedules
have been tremendous non conference and the few sure it
looks very bright to continue that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:02):
I think.

Speaker 8 (01:37:03):
I think about the CFP and as we've continue to
evolve from two teams to four teams to twelve teams,
and god knows where we're gonna go next. My thought
is almost that you get rewarded for playing these games,
you know, because I think you probably ask the majority
of the coaches around the country. They're thinking, man, that

(01:37:25):
that's really hard thing to do is play that game
week one on the road or at home, depending on
the year. And so I think from a from a
CFP standpoint, it's almost like, you know, check mark the
box for a positive that they were willing to play
the game. Maybe they maybe they want it, maybe they didn't,
but surely they put themselves out that we're willing to

(01:37:46):
do it, you know. And I see so many people
talk about like SEC scheduling and you know, not playing
power for teams this conference. It's real, like we're playing
real teams. We all are, and on top of our
own schedule, and on top of next year we're going
to nine games, and so you're looking at it, you're
looking at a real schedule, and so that the goal

(01:38:06):
is to be rewarded for playing in these games. Obviously
you can reward yourself by winning. That's helpful. But I
just don't think either us or Ohio State for that matter,
is going to get punished for playing in this game
from a CFP standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
And that's a good thing and they shouldn't as well.
All Right, we'll be back to wrap up today's edition
of the program here on thirteen ound of the Zone

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