Sean Miller's MBB Concerns, Jerry Jones' Season Wrap-Up, Transfer Portal Updates

Craig Way and Jake Herman bring you the latest on Texas sports news, including the NCAA transfer portal and soundbites from Sean Miller and Vic Schaefer. Plus, NFL coaching shake-ups continue while Jerry Jones wraps up the Cowboys season at today's press conference.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
If it's Wednesday, it means it's yacht rock Wednesday. Yeah,
we got that going on to day and a lot
of other things to get to as well. Good to afternoon, everybody.
Welcome to the program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen
hundred The Zone. My name is Craig Way. Thanks so
much for joining us. We do appreciate you taking time

(00:27):
out of your day to visit with us, and us
of course includes the producer Jay Carmon, who was in
for me yesterday, and I do appreciate that. Did you
have a good time, you know, you know, sitting in
and doing the things they did to do.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Absolutely had a good time talking to NFL some Texas
Transfer Portal news with Mark Henry. Luckily, Craig, yesterday was
a busy newsday in between the morning kickoff from seven
to nine and this program. So we've got lots of
fresh reactions from the world's strongest man.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, okay, well that's good. It's always good to get
good get And I did hear I heard just a
little clip him when he said he had to have
a conversation with me because he said, I'm not in
that He's not the sexual chocolate thing anymore. I've just
heard people refer to me even though I know that.
I know he's he's the world's strongest man. But you
know what, Uh, he's the world's strongest man. But he

(01:24):
is also one of the nicest, kindest people you will
ever meets. He's that cool and uh so I always
always enjoy visiting with him. Hey, so here's here's a
bit of something's pretty funny. But there used to be
a producer of this program back in the other building

(01:45):
when Roy Baber's never doing, named Matt Butler. Still a good,
good dude, good friend all that. He texted me, Now
this you'll get a kick out of this. As the producer,
he said, pretty sure. I just heard the producer build
up the delay, you know, and that's when it goes
in to sound Plus and it does it. The system
doesn't automatically here, but it's a build up to delay,
which resulted. Remember we had the spot running with Steph

(02:07):
Curry talking about the uh the bourbon what was it called?
What was it? Uh? I forgot that something club? Yeah, yeah,
Gentlemen's gentlemen's club. Whatever, gentleman's cut, gentleman's cut. He said,
I'm pretty sure I just heard the producer build up
the delay, which resulted in Steph Curry promoting bourbon while
actually sounding drunk. That's the way extrapolates out. It's true,

(02:30):
well caught, Matt Butler, well caught.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, but the system's doing that for me.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, it does it automatically now in this day and age.
That's one thing that happens there. It just it just
does that there. But anyway, Uh, that's good. Yeah. So
so anyway, it's uh, as it stands, Uh, we we
have a lot to get on to onto the program

(02:58):
this afternoon, and we'll do that. And among the things
that obviously we're gonna have a lot about long worn basketball.
With Texas losing last night to Tennessee. It wasn't just
a fourteen point loss to a twentieth ranked team in
the country. You'd say, okay, well, yeah, they're really good

(03:19):
and all that sort of stuff, and they are. But
it was the way in which the loss unfolded and
the reaction to the loss in real time as it
was happening from head coach Sean Miller and his coaching staff.
And I'll explain more as we go a little further on.
For those of you watched that. You probably know what

(03:39):
I'm talking about. Are listening to our broadcast last night,
because we're also going to hear from Yorick Malagi, the
Long Run's assistant coach. He joined us on the post
game and he kind of he kind of confirmed what
we were wondering about some things. So we'll hear from
him about that. Now. There's plenty of college football news
to get to. Transfer portal stuff continues. I think we're

(04:02):
what day six of the portal feels like week six? Yeah,
no kidding, And I'll get to this. I'm not gonna
I'm not going to chastise Long Worn fans or whatever
you did. You have a right to be as excited
or as have as much angst as you can muster
up with regard to the football program and what has
happened so far in the portal. We'll get to some

(04:24):
of the update on that. We'll do that, and we'll
talk about the final four of college football, the playoff
because it resumes tomorrow night with Miami and Ole Miss
playing in the Verbo Fiesta bal. Have you ever used Verbo?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, I've used their competitor, Airbnb. I've booked on Verbo.
I had the prices haven't been better, so I've gone
the other route.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, all right, Linda and I used them a couple
of times and it was okay. We didn't have a
bad experience or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Didn't have a host thing with you like Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
No, anything like that. It was it was for a
condo in Myrtle Beach that we did because the way
that and folks who've listened to this program in the past,
they know kind of how I operate. When I take
that one big vacation in the summer, it's my one
real opportunity to be out for an extended period of time.
And I've been doing this for about thirty years to

(05:15):
where at the tail end of June, after college baseball
season is over, until mid July when you have conference
football media days, and this year it'll be SEC Media Days,
which will be in Temple, Florida this year. And what
I'll do is I'll take a couple of weeks, plus
a couple of days for driving up and getting back

(05:35):
and all that sort of stuff. So the first week
usually what I'll do is rent a house at a
little place called Sunset Beach, which is north about thirty
miles north of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. It's in North Carolina.
It's across the state line. But it's a place to
completely unplug. You can be as active or as inactive
as you want to be because it's successful by a

(05:56):
little causeway across onto the island, and if you want
to leave the island, you don't have to. There's no
restaurants on the island. There's a couple of little grocery markets,
a boutique, and that's about it. But just across the
bridge there's incredible golf and you're going down here thirty
minutes from Myrtle Beach, and restaurants and all that stuff
if you want it. And of course we got married
there three and a half years ago at the Dunes Club.

(06:18):
But so I usually do that for the first week
and then the second week, and that first week I'll
rent a house and then my family's invited, so kids, grandkids,
stuff like that. So we're all there for one week together,
and about one week's about all I need out of
my kids and grandkids all under one roof.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
At the end of that week, Lynna and I kind
of unplugged for a week, just the two of us,
and we'll usually go and like get a condo down
in Myrtle or south of Myrtle like we did last year,
somewhere in the area, but just like, you know, a
condo and the thing where we can just walk out
on the balcony and sit there and look at the
ocean and you know, and just relax. This year, things
will be a little bit different because my son is

(06:59):
getting married at Myrtle. B's not the same spot where
we did, but my oldest son is getting married, so
there's going to be a wedding down there at the
end of that deal. And then I think we're gonna Lindon.
I will take another week and do something and then
we're going to get over to SEC media Days. But
point being is that we've used Verbo a couple of
times and it's not bad. It's not bad. So we'll

(07:19):
talk some college football Verbo Fiesta Bowl and Oh Miss Miami.
That's tomorrow night. Also tomorrow night, Texas women's basketball back
in action. Long Orange is seventeen and OH number two
in the country. Incidentally, it's their first seventeen and OH
start in forty years. The last time that happened seventeen

(07:44):
and oh was halfway to thirty four and oh, and
the Texas women won the national championship, became the first
team in women's college basketball history to go perfect through
a season, unbeaten, and Jody Comrad's team won the national title.
They beat Cheryl Miller in US in the national championship
game that year. But so this team is seventeen and oh,

(08:07):
it's the best start since that eighty six national championship team.
Texas will play Auburn tomorrow night at Moody Center. Game
we'll have for you here on thirteen under the Zone
six to forty five pre game start time and tip
off at seven o'clock. So that's the bar for Texas women.
And then when we get to the weekend, Longhorn men

(08:29):
will be at Alabama and then the women will be
at LSU, huge showdown matchup with Kim Malke's LSU team.
So there's a lot too, So all of that gets unfolded.
We'll hear a little bit later in the program from
Vick Shaffer, Texas women's head coach, but we'll mainly hear
from him and Ashton Judd, the Longrune transfer guard forward

(08:50):
from Missouri who transferred him. We'll hear mainly from those
two tomorrow on the program. So there's that. We do
have inconceivable, we do have some food related items. I
have a response to what you did because I just
happened to click on right when you did inconceivable an
hour later yesterday, because you have Mark Henry on it.
That's right, and I heard you mentioned something and whether

(09:11):
I would be up for it. I'll give you my
response to that. Okay, we'll have that. We'll have that
coming up as well. There's the NFL to discuss John
Harball being let go. I think if you were to
ask me, that would probably be the only coaching dismissal

(09:32):
that even raised an eyebrow with me. The other ones
kind of saw it coming, not really surprised that much.
Maybe Atlanta with Ringan Morrison, but you know, because they
finished strong but still have struggled since he been the
head coach. So other than that, none of the other
moves have have surprised me other than Harball. And the

(09:54):
only thing I can think of with regard to Harball
is it's kind of what pat Riley used to say
when he was co first the Lakers and then the heat.
He said, after a while, your message just you know,
after two three years, your message just doesn't carry anymore.
You know, they're not listening. They're kind of tuning you out.
And I don't know if that's the case with Harball,
but he's been there a long time, multiple playoff appearances,

(10:16):
he won super Bowl forty seven. But they've had multiple
shortcomings in recent years, whether it be in the playoffs
or like it was this year down the stretch of
the regular season. So Baltimore's is making a change, and
we'll take a look at the coaching changes as well.
We'll do that. As always, we invite your participation on

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the text line. More than happy to address your questions,
your comments, your thoughts. All you have to do is
text the word Texas follow by your question and comment
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You text the word Texas followed by your question or
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(11:01):
the break, I'm I want to go ahead and say
this right now, and you know, so people won't necessarily
be and some might anyway be texting or tweeting or
whatever and say, hey, did you mention blah blah blah,
And it's about our good friend, the lifetime Longhorn informer

(11:23):
All American Jordan Shipley. I don't know if you heard.
Jordan was badly injured yesterday in an accident on his ranch,
which is out I think between Burnett and Lamb Passes.
It's out that way. And he works with also a
management company that manages a lot of ranches and leases
and things of that nature. He was working on his

(11:46):
ranch yesterday and he was operating a machine, not sure
what kind, but was operating a machine and it caught fire,
according to the statement release yesterday. And I mentioned this
on the broadcast the Long One basketball game last night
because he had just come out, and John Bianco contacted

(12:07):
me and told me about it, and I said, I
will mention on the air right now, and I did.
He contacted me during a commercial break he sent me
the release. I read it right out of the commercial break,
and this is taking from that. He suffered severe burns
on his body. He was driven to a local hospital

(12:28):
by one of the workers at the ranch, who apparently,
according to his dad, good friend Bob Shipley wasn't even
scheduled to work that day, but just happened to be
there and got him to local hospital. They then care
flighted him to Austin. He was overnight there, of course. Jordan,

(12:48):
you know, Long went great both as a receiver and
kick returner. Two time All American, he holds several single
season receiving records at Texas, receiving yardage in a season,
receptions in a season. He's also the program's career leader
for receptions and ranked second in receiving yards, trailing only
Roy Williams. And as a special teams player, re turned

(13:10):
thirty punts for an average of twelve and a half
yards per kick, three touchdowns, returned kick cos for four
hundred and sixty eight yards. One score. That one score
was gigantic. It was in the OU game in two
thousand and eight. Texas was down fourteen to three. It
flipped the entire momentum of the game. Texas came back
to win the game. In any event, there's this was.

(13:32):
It's a very scary situation, no doubt about it. And
his wife, Sonny, also had tweeted out something that she
said so many people had contacted them and so she
wanted to update as best she could. They had a

(13:53):
difficult night, got through the night. He's still having to
use a breathing tube right now because of damage from
the fire to they're not exactly sure the extent of
the lungs. Also his hands. These next hours and certainly
days are going to be critical. So I just wanted
to mention that and then go ahead and offer up

(14:17):
our wishes and hopes and prayers for Jordan Shipley. Hopefully,
hopefully he can recover have a full and speedy recovery
as well, but they say it's probably going to take
a while. This could be a process. But day by
day right now, just try to get him through hours
by hours and day by day. So our thoughts and
wishes and prayers go out to Jordan and his family. Okay,

(14:41):
coming up, we'll get to Texas Long Worn basketball. We
need to discuss that. We're going to hear from Yorick Malagi,
the Long Worn's assistant coach, but we will also hear
from Sean Miller from the press conference he had after that.
Also today, what would a week be without an offering
from Jerry Jones And so you were diving into it, Jake.

(15:05):
Apparently this is quite the offering Jerry had in the
season wrap up kind of stated the team address, correct.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
This was a fully produced and fully elaborated explanation of
the Cowboys season, what the off season will look like.
Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and Brian Schottenheimer took questions, We'll
bring you the best moments from that, Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So we have that to look forward to as well.
Glad to have you with us here on the yacht
Rock Wednesday here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the
Zone where you can always listen to us for free
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Don't do I'm a How can you be confident any time?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, if we're going to start off in the new year,
our first yacht Rock Wednesday program in the new year,
because there was a week ago today that the Cheese
at Citrus Bowl was going on, so we had no program,
no yacht Rock Wednesday. So this is the first yacht
Rock Wednesday. Had the brand new calendar year for twenty
twenty six, might as well started off with the Godfather
there with Michael McDonald and the Doobie Brothers minute by

(16:19):
minute the title track from their album at that time.
All right, there are several things to get to and
also your questions and comments are always welcomed there just
by texting the word Texas followed by your question or
commentary one five to three zero. We'll start with the
long worn basketball team. Texas lost to Tennessee last night

(16:42):
eighty five seventy one. There were a number of noteworthy
elements to this game. Tennessee really good team, hard to
beat at home. We had a chance to visit with
Rick Barnes before the game because Reckon I have been
friends a long time. Obviously, we worked together for sixteen

(17:03):
years when he was the head coach here and he
always is very very welcoming and always is enthused about
visiting with me and Eddie Orn and we went back.
You'll get a kick out of this, Jake. We go
back to we're led back to where the coaches locker
room is and where the player's lounge is and all

(17:25):
that stuff. And this is probably an hour before the game.
They've gone through some film stuff, so it and then
they went out, so it comes out. He sees us
and he comes up huggus and all this stuff, and
we're visiting and then he tells us, you know, so
let's go back here, we'll go back here and talk.
So we start to walk back and we're passing a
point in the player's lounge where there are, as is

(17:49):
the case just about all high level Division one football
and basketball programs, and a player's lounge, there's going to
be various video games that they can play eight games
and stuff like that, and there's one for Golden te
You're you're familiar with going to the golf game. Yeah,
So we're walking by and Rick Barnes stops and says he, hey, Eddie.

(18:12):
He says, deddi orn play me one hole for one
hundred bucks or something. They were joking and and so
he gets over there on Golden Teem. I'm showing the
picture now uh to uh to Jake. They're standing at
the arcade there, so that's that's him standard. So they
do play one. They play one game, and Rick Birdie's
the whole Ah, He's like, I never I never played

(18:33):
his game or something like that. In the assistants like no, no, no,
don't do that. He does play the game. So I
think Eddie made a bogey on it and Rick met
a birdie on it, and it was that. But anyway,
we went the way back. We had a good chat.
We knew this was gonna be a difficult assignment for
the long worn basketball team. It was. There were several
areas that concerned Sean Miller and the coaching staff. One

(18:57):
was going to be and I talked about him on
the area yesterday.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, You're preview is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
The pressure on the ball, the turnovers really hurt takes.
It wasn't the turnovers. I think wound up being eighteen fifteen.
It was pretty close, but the points off to turn
turnovers were obscene. It was something like twenty to six
or something.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, it's like they stressed on the TV broadcast, and
they stressed it a lot in college basketball.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
There's not every turnovers created equal live ball.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Turnovers really hurt, Yeah, really hurd Yeah, and it did.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
It hurt Texas a lot in the game. And there
came a point twenty seven to thirteen. The point twenty
seven thirteen, Like I said, they more than doubled it up.
There came a point early in the second half because
Texas had tried to fight through the first half. They're
down one, they gave up an ato run, they came back,

(19:48):
and then it got pushed out to fifteen by the half,
and they start the second half with an at Oh
run the volunteers do and it's a twenty three point margin. Also,
Modesspokeatitis picked up his fourth foul, so he's been sent
to the bench, and at that point Sean Miller decided

(20:08):
to make some significant changes with his on floor lineup.
Jordan Pope came out, Dale Swain played a couple more
minutes and then he came out and for a large
measure of the second half which you had on the
floor was a lineup of Simeon Wilcher who's kind of

(20:31):
running the point there, Tremon and Mark occasionally ran the
point when he was out there, Kenda Weaver, Cam Heidi
and Lesina Treori. Nick Cody also rotated in and out
on that, but it was mainly there were two guys
who were regular starters, Heidi and Mark, but everybody else

(20:51):
it was were bench guys. And it went that way
the rest of the game. And that group brought Texas
from down twenty three to within ten, and so they
brought him to within ten. Tennessee pushed it back out eighteen.
Texas cut it to twelve, and there was an intentional
foul on a dunk by Kenda Weaver. He then made

(21:14):
the two free throws. They were down twelve and they're
inbounding the ball with a chance to get it to
ten or even nine on the three turnover. On the inbounds,
Tennessee gets a breakaway, they get points out of it,
and Texas never really got close again. The final margin
was fourteen, so that was significant in terms of those changes. Now,

(21:37):
Sean Miller has been pretty straightforward upfront about needing guys
to respond and not continue to make the same mistakes.
So a lot of the same mistakes were made, and
so we figured that was probably the reason for the changes.
Uric Malagi came over to visit with us on the

(21:58):
postgame and that longrn SA says than coaching, And while
that's partially true about making the same mistakes, it wasn't
completely the reason. As you'll hear in our postgame conversation.
We found it really kind of interesting the way that
Coach Miller and you guys and the Coaching STAF wanted
to play this in the second half, because after the

(22:19):
twenty three point lead, it would have been easy for
the guys to melt down and just say, oh, forget
it didn't the changes that were made and the guys
that are out there, you saw a lot of fight out.
They cut a twenty three point marchin down to ten
and got out the seventeen again they cut it to eleven.
I wanted to give you a chance to talk about
that and what Coach Miller, what the and what you
and the rest of the coaching staff decided on doing

(22:40):
with the rotation and the guys on the floor, who
did it show a lot of fight down the stretch? Yeah,
I think.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
You know, we just wanted to try to find five
guys that were just going to play it to the
bone and just compete and just give maximum effort and
play for Texas. We deserved that as a university, as
a beast about program, as a coaching staff, we work
really really hard at this. Uh so just you know,
you know, year one, trying to figure out exactly what

(23:08):
we have. But it's a long, long journey. I was
proud of those guys for competing, you know, but I
always say and coach you know this, you know, anybody
can come back, can you come back and win? And uh,
you know, we just can't, you know, especially on a
road against a quality team like Tennessee, you just can't
spot those guys and play the defense that we did

(23:29):
in the first half, you know, But I was pleased
with some of some of the things we did in
the second.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
York, Would it be fair to say that the guys
before the changes were made, it wasn't done out of
defiance on their partner's just a misunderstanding and failure to
execute what you and the rest of the coaching staff
wanted that prompted the changes. Would that be fair to say.
I would say it's a combination of.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Failure to execute, but also just a lack of effort,
you know, and and and you know, I think some
of that is just disappointing, you know, just really casual,
you know, in terms of our blockouts, in terms of
protecting the basketball, just mental lapses in terms of game
playing stuff that we wanted to do offensively and defensively.

(24:17):
Just you know, it's just we're one of the oldest
teams in college basketball. I don't mean number seven, you know,
in terms of experience. Some of these guys have been
playing way too much college basketball for that. But we
got to coach them better, and we're in this with them.
It's not them versus us. We got to find a
way to keep grinding and trying to, you know, get

(24:39):
those guys' hearts and minds and we will.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well, you see, you see the positive You see the
efforts in practice, the consistency in practice.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
You want that in a game. And I think that's
the one thing.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
You know, a game can be decided on two runs, yeah,
of two minutes and being more consistent.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, I think I actually believe coach, we've been having
much better pract I mean, and you know they say
you play like your practice. But you know, in credit
to Tennessee, I mean, we don't get a chance to
practice against Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
You know what I mean. So you know, but I
do think we're getting better. Uh, this is a hard
place to play.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I've never won here.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
You know, it's my second stitt in sec You know,
I coach some good teams at Texas A and M.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean, we never came here and won. Not a
lot of people do.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
But you know it's just, Uh, at the end of
the day, if you do run out of time, it's like, man,
can we give forty minutes of effort? Can it go
down the way we wanted to go down. And I
don't know if we can all look at each other,
man the man and say.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
That they did. Safe to say that the next couple
of days really a day and a half out the
time this team gets back late, like like tonight and tomorrow.
Safe to say the next couple of days pretty be
pretty interesting to observe what's going on on the and
practice and what effort and execution they deliver for you
before we all had the Tuscaloos on Friday.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yeah, you know, I think these opportunities we get because
you get so many of them, blessed to play in
the best league in college basketball. You have to have
a short term memory and then just try to figure out, man,
as we move forward, what's the best combination of guys
that gives us the best chance to win night in
and night out. So we'll find out a lot about
our team and practice in the games.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, appreciate the time Eric talks. I appreciate you.
All right. So there it is with youric Malagi. And
so you heard that e word mentioned effort, and you're
going to hear more direct words from the head coach
about that next hour in the four o'clock hour about that.

(26:39):
So we've said this from the start, this is going
to take time. Not only does Sean Miller have to
have an opportunity to get the kind of players he
wants in to try to flip this thing, but also
the teaching and the coaching that's going to go on
with the group that's here to get them to buy
in with older veteran teams. As Eric Malagie was pointing out,

(27:03):
isn't always the case that the older teams don't exactly
do the buy in and all that kind of stuff.
So it's gonna be interesting to see how this all
rolls out in the coming days and weeks. All Right,
up next, we've got Inconceivable for a yacht Rock Wednesday
afternoon right here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the
Zone and the iHeart Radio App. Hour number two of

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coming up, we're going to hear from Jerry Jones kind
of a you know, end of season evaluation, which some

(28:35):
of you might, you know, infer to be much like
a proctological examination.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't know, you know, but I have more questions
after here what you're going to hear in a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
All right, but I wanted to start off with long
worn basketball again, and I wanted to start off with
Shawn Miller, because we heard your analogy last hour, the
long words assistant coach talk about, you know, the the
lack of execution despite the continued, repeated attempts by this
coaching staff. And I've watched it with my own eyes

(29:09):
in practice, and they say, and I agree, that washing
them in practice. You know, they're able to break off
of screens to guard people, or they're curl off of
a screen in an offense instead of rise up and
hit a jumper or play their low post kingdom. They
seem to do the things in practice really well. But
as your analogy said, you're not practicing against Tennessee. You know,

(29:34):
the guys who were in the jerseys to practice jerseys
to you know, to emulate. It's not quite the same.
So so that's somewhat to be accounted for.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I had some friends who are practice players for the
Texas Women when I was a student.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah. Yeah, and they still have them. They go throwing,
They're very helpful, but you're not going to completely be
able to replicate. Jacoby Gillespie is not, and he had
thirty four points last night. What beyond that, and what
frustrated the coaches so much was not only the lack
of execution on repeated instruction after timeout after timeout and

(30:15):
all this kind of stuff. For them not to be
able to execute the way they wanted, they're also came
into question the possibility of a lack of proper and
enough effort, and that is an absolute no go for
this coaching staff. They're not going. They won't stand for that,
and that's why they made the changes they did in

(30:36):
the second half. And that's why you didn't see a
lot of Jordan Pope and why you didn't see a
lot of Dylan Swain as well. And of course modest
focun Titus had foul trouble, so three of the starting
five sat for a lot of the second half.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I was gonna say Pope subbed out before the under
sixteen in the second half, didn't see them, didn't return.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Nope, and Swain went out about thirteen minutes plus or whatever. So,
as you might imagine, coach Miller had some pointed things
to say about that. So let's let's hear a little
bit from the long Warne head coach after the game
last night. Sean Miller, first of balls, opening thoughts.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
I just want to acknowledge and really complement Tennessee. There's
a lot about coach Barnes that I love. I've known
him for a long long time, and I'm not really
just speaking on the incredible run that he had at
Texas at one point. I know I played against him
when he was the coach at Providence and we go
back when he was at Clemson. I was in the

(31:33):
ACC as an assistant, and I just think the job
he's done building this program is incredible. What they stand for,
the physicality, the togetherness, the defense, toughness, those are all
things that given the opportunity to be the new coach
at Texas.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
That that we have to get to.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
And you know, I'll just say this on my end
that tonight was about one thing. We have to be
able to put a group of guys on the court.
They're going to play. They're very, very hardest, with great
effort for the University of Texas period. You know, guys
like LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Durant, they deserve a team, whether

(32:16):
we win or lose. That's playing a game for each other,
playing a game for the great place that we all
live at, and playing to win. And I just think
that sometimes when you get a new opportunity when the
pressure of today you can be clouded a little bit
about what's important. There's nothing that's more important than effort,

(32:40):
you know. I thought that to some degree that came
in to play against Mississippi State in our last game,
and I thought there were times, in spite of how
good of a team Tennessee has, that we cooperated just
with guys that just really didn't want to compete in
the second half when we went with a certain group,

(33:02):
and I have a lot of pride in the fact
that the score was thirty eight thirty seven. You know,
we keep deflections as a barometer. You know, we got
ended up with about twenty nine. Most of those came
with that group in and it wasn't always pretty. But
I have no problem with the effort level and the
togetherness of my team from about the fourteen minute mark

(33:24):
to zero in the second half.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
And it wasn't pretty and we didn't win.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
But when you established that we're going to play hard
and what we talk about as the coach you have
to do, I think that's the starting in the building
blocks of hopefully one day building a foundation like you
guys have here at Tennessee.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
On the coach Barms.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
So we're only in our second game in SEC We're
not a very good team.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
We have a long way to go.

Speaker 7 (33:50):
But what we have to do is we have to
be a team that's connected and plays the game with
great great effort. And the thing that I'll tell you
about Tennessee, they do the those two things and it's admirable.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, so you heard him talk about the effort piece,
but also he was pleased with how the guys that
he put in starting from around that fourteen minute mark,
and how hard they fought and sitting right down their courtside,
you could see it how they were working. One other
thing from teum Miller. He was asked this this whole

(34:25):
identity and culture thing, and we've heard coach, and I'm
not just counting it for a moment. You do have
to establish your identity, your culture. I have never seen
it more apparent and galvanized with a head coach and

(34:45):
his team than I've seen with two head coaches in
this town and their teams. See Steve starkeyen with the
football program and established the culture, and Vic Schaffer with
the Texas women's basketball team. And you know Jim's las
Agle establishing the culture during the course of the season,
and it was big. He had to do it on
the fly, and that's what Seohn Miller's having to do

(35:08):
on the fly, and Sark will tell you it took
a while. They go five and seven the first year.
It took a while to get that culture established. And
even though Vic Schaffer in his first year got the
women to the Elite eight, he had to establish the
culture and did it perhaps most rapidly. Some of that
has to do with the people you have in the

(35:28):
fold and how quick the buy in is. Others is
not necessarily just the buy in the believe, but the
understanding of exactly what that takes toward that end. Miller
has asked how much progress does he feel that he
and the staff are making in terms of getting this
identity established for the team and its culture.

Speaker 8 (35:48):
We're not making any you.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Know, there's some things that I think we've done well
at times, you know, defensive rebounding, but right now we're
playing against well today we played against the best offensive
rebing team in the country, right and they got us.

Speaker 8 (36:03):
They do that to a lot of teams.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
I think if you look at the rebounding we ended
up getting fifteen second shots.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
A lot of our second shots.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Came though, what I'm talking about, which was mid second half, right,
with effort, more effort. You can't get second shots unless
you're playing lights out, especially against these guys, right, you
have to really go. And you know, I thought there
were a number of guys who really tried to create
those second shot opportunities with effort. You know, we want
to play with pace and togetherness, but we weren't really

(36:31):
able to do that tonight. Some of it is Tennessee
is such an excellent defensive team that they take some
of those things away. But we have to we have
to establish that. I'm playing for the University of Texas.
I played for Sean Miller. He's the coach. What he
says goes, this is how we do it. I play
for myself. I played for my teammates.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
Mostly.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
I'm caught up in the moment like I'm playing a
game I love, and I'm gonna play as fast and
as hard as I can. If you can't play with effort,
it's going to be very very hard next couple months,
and I think you'll see that. You know, our lineup
has to change. I can't keep playing the certain guys
we're at that point, or we're just going to have
to go whoever is ready to play hard, we have

(37:14):
to go with them because that's going to be our
best bet.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
It's interesting what he just said there at the end
about going to have to change in some things for
the lineups. Normally, just give you a little peek behind
the curtain. When I record the pregame interview with Sean Miller,
we usually recorded about ninety minutes before tip off, similar

(37:40):
to what I do with Sark and Sark, by the way,
he's a unicorn in that area. A lot of football coaches,
certainly the vast majority. I know because I've asked fellow
broadcasters in the SEC and going back in the Big
Twelve as well, when do you record your pregame interview

(38:00):
with the coach? You'd be surprised at how far in
advance of the game the actual pregame interview that airs,
like anywhere from five to ten minutes before the start
of the game actually is recorded. A lot of that
has to do with logistics, and the coach doesn't have

(38:22):
time to do it the day before the game, and
certainly not the day of the game. They don't have time,
so you wind up doing it two three days out sometimes,
and a lot of the guys I know will actually
record their pregame interview with the head coach football, basketball, whatever,
when they do their weekly coaches show two or three

(38:44):
days out. When Charlie Strong was at Louisville before he
came to Texas, Paul Rodgers, good friend who is the
play by play voice of Louisville Cardinals, called me right
after Charlie got their head coaching job at Texas and said,
Charlie's a great guy and I hope it worked for you. Well,

(39:07):
it was the most disconnected forty years I had from
the program. We couldn't go to practice. I had a
lot of times I had to use Monday press conference
tape for the pregamm and around. I'm like, really, I
was shocked about that. But we met with Coachtrong. We
talked about it, and he was really good about, you know,
giving me the access that I needed to get in

(39:29):
terms of seeing, you know, seeing practice. Roger Wawllas and
I were able to go to practice. That was not
an issue, but we still had to record the pregame
interview after he did his show at Pluckers on Thursday night,
and we would do it at Pluckers, like back in

(39:50):
the manager's office, a little, tiny little manager's office. Go
back in there and do it. And that's like forty
eight hours prior to kick. Tom Herman millerly inclined, although
we did it like after his show. We recorded at lunchtime.
It wasn't a live show at Pluckers. And then we
would do it. Then when Sark first came in, we

(40:12):
did it that way I think the first two years,
and then Sark suggested and John Bianco, who handles everything
obviously media relations ever Texas Football so well, approached me
and said, what do you think about recording it like say,
two hours before kick? I'm like, are you kidding? Yeah,

(40:32):
I'd love to. And I'd already found out from Chris Stewart,
who had taken Eli Gold's place at Alabama, that that's
when Nick Saban liked to do it two hours prior
to kick. So this was another thing that Sark brought
in from saving and so Sark and I talked about
it before he said, and you know what, I'll be
better doing that because I'm closer to the game time.
I'm more into it and he's been great. We actually

(40:54):
wind up doing about an hour forty five by the
time he does his lap around the stadium, and he
might I'd have to do a network radio or a
TV interview, So we end up recording it about an
hour and forty five prior to kick, which is great
and we have the latest stuff. There was always the understanding,
even going back to Mac Brown when he used to
record his in his conference room on Wednesday night, said

(41:15):
if something drastic happened, star quarterback, whatever breaks a leg,
we could we make arrangements for me to go back
and do another pregame interview with it. That never really happened,
so uh at.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Different times in college football, no question.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
But you'd be surprised in the number of all the
fellow play by play guys I talked to when I'd
tell them that I've recorded the interview like an hour
forty five to kick, They're like shocked, absolutely shocked. A
lot of them are like really, I'm like, yeah, it's
when he wants to do it, and it's great. Well,
basketball across the board pretty much the interviews are done

(41:53):
hour and a half, two hours a little more prior
to that. What we have found that what works with
coach with the schedule of everything is home games, we
do it about an hour and a half prior to tip.
On the road, quite often we'll do it about three
hours prior to tip, right after, like the pregame meal.
It just works out better that way to do it.

(42:16):
Point of all of this is yesterday when we recorded
the pregame interview about three hours prior to tip. I
always go over I have my broadcast chart. I go
over it with Coach Miller and say, hey, any changes here,
anything I need to know? And he tells me, now,
now we're going to go with the same starting five,
or this guy might see a little more action. Blah

(42:37):
blah blah. Yesterday when I asked him, I said the
same five. He hesitated for a second. Yes, go with him,
but I'm contemplating some changes, so we'll see how it goes. Well.
Clearly the way it unfolded, he made it changes during
the second half, and we just heard him say there

(42:57):
that there's a good chance he may have lineup changes coming,
because he said, you can't just what's that old thing
about the definition of insanity doing the same thing over
and over and expecting a different result. So his point
is we've got to change some things. So I would
imagine we'll see some things changed for the Alabama game
on Saturday night in TuS collusion. All right, up next,

(43:17):
speaking of changes or changes not happening, we'll hear from
Jerry Jones when we continue on thirteen under the Zone,
the late great Jerry Rafferty. Just try to get it
right next time if you don't get it right the
first time, which is a Billy Joel song, get it

(43:38):
right the first time, get it right next time is
the name of this time. Maybe that's what the cowboys
will be thinking here, Oh, get it right next time.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Good transition, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
And by the way, before we get to that, somebody
on the text line point out when that story I
had about kids spending more screen time, he said, hey,
less screen time amongst Texas school it's against Texas law
new this year to have them all during the school
day must be turned off and put away. We'll see
if they comply.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Right, Well, some schools I've seen have to turn them
in right yep, lock box. That feels like an invasion
of privacy. Then again, you've got certain things in play,
like a safety issue.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
In that case, Well, I think the other thing that's important,
by the way, on that is accessibility from the parent
if you have a family emergency, right, and how do
we do it? In the old days, he called the school,
called the front office and say, hey, I got to
get a message through to you know, to junior. He's
got a blah blah blah. So I guess that's the

(44:44):
reasoning behind it. So probably not a bad thing. I'm
here to tell you that as as the father of
four kids and now the grandfather of four as well,
but is my four we're going through through school. In
the two thousand oughts and in the twenty teens, as

(45:06):
they were going through that, it became more and more
difficult just to call them on the phone because they
didn't have time for your phone conversation. I'd have some
stern conversation. If I'm calling, you better be answering unless
it's really urgent. But they had time to work me
in on their texts like with others. So that's how

(45:28):
a lot of that rolled over time. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
As long as we were communicating, well, what you could
you could always do the program parent move, and that
is to play words with friends.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
That was huge at the time.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah. Yeah, mine were not about that. They were not
into that.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Not a scrabble family. No, both my grandmothers are avid scrabblers.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I'm going to say this as modestly as I can.
When they in their developmental years and before that, maybe
even a little laughter. I was pretty good board gamer.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
You don't have to be modest.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
My point is they had a difficult time beating me.
Therefore they weren't interested in playing. And you're not gonna
let them win grandfather. No, I believe in letting them
have a chance. Yeah, which you still got to beat me. No,
not grandfather, my father, my grandkids. Now, you know my grandkids.
That's different. They're little, and that's understandable. And by the way,

(46:30):
Linda has a grandson and he and I've got to
know each other. And over there, he is nine years
old and he's really good at chess. Now I haven't played.
I had not played chess in over thirty years. But
he asked me if I wanted to play, and I said, yeah, okay, yeah,
I like the game of I just never had time

(46:51):
or enough partners.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Again, Another game that my kids really were not into
was chess, so startist. We played chess. He kicked my ass.
He he kicked my complete behind.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Did he talk to you like it was easy?

Speaker 8 (47:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I was doing it.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yes, well I'm not sure why you made that movie.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
He was like, see, you really probably shouldn't have done
that because now I'm going to take your bishop here.
And I was like, huh you know, and he was
like and I'd started to make a movie and go ooh,
And I was like, I shouldn't make that movie. I
wouldn't a nine year old telling me this, and he
crushed me on that. So it was pretty funny on that.
I was glad to play the game again, but it

(47:31):
didn't last long. He had me beaten about twenty minutes.
That was it.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
It me beat it was But what do they say
bishop to ask, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
That's exactly what it was in that case. All right,
Cowboys experience some of that. This year, Jerry Jones kind
of had a State of the team press conference. It
was asked, first of all, how disappointed is he with
the way this season ultimately unfolded.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
Well, this is the first time in my life I've
ever been disappointed. Most of the time I've had more disappointments,
and I've had highs, and so this certainly is an
example of what can happen to you in this game football,

(48:21):
You guys, I've heard me say that a lot of times.
It has fleeting moments of euphoria, and those are made
special by having hard times. Specifically, I am disappointed that
we aren't in the playoffs and aren't in good shape
to be in the playoffs, So that is a disappointment.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Next, he hired Matt Eberflus as the defensive coordator. It
didn't work out. Iberflus was fired yesterday. So will Brian
Schottenheimer himself as head coach be allowed to make that
hire or is that one that Jerry says he has
to make.

Speaker 8 (49:04):
Trump just said it.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I'm running.

Speaker 8 (49:08):
That's why Shot.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
He had everything to do with hiring Matt Aberfoods last time,
and that's not done.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Done.

Speaker 9 (49:17):
I'm done as a negative. Would have no way in
the world he's here if Shot he didn't want him here. Okay,
let me be real clear about that, and he can
tell you in his own words, there no way in
the world if Steven didn't want him here. But I
particularly had a party when we got him to have
him come in, and I was excited about having the
uniqueness of his staff. The idea being, you get U

(49:42):
there is an advantage to having your proverbial you know
what kicked and still living to tell about it, having
been shot at, hit in the fox hole, and come
on back and have a go Okay. That philosophy has
not worked several times around here and had me advocate
it for the last thirty years. I like to have

(50:04):
guys that have had hard times and then they come
back and get a chance to redeem it. One of
the best things about all of football is you get
to redeem yourself both on and off the field. If
you're still active in a player, it's redemption thing and
you've got that, and it's will cause a lot of
what you've done not satisfactory to be forgotten.

Speaker 8 (50:25):
Football does that for people, coaches and players.

Speaker 9 (50:29):
And so I say to our fans, the way we've
done it, I'll assure you that the way we've done
it in the past, that alone will cause me not
to do it that way.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Now.

Speaker 9 (50:42):
That alone, that's a simple logic. If whatever we've been
doing to do it in the past, there we need
to change that that will happen. That's what you have
to do when you're doing it, making the ultimate calls.
We'll make it the same way that we've made all
of the calls around here, owns Tack. I wouldn't make
a call if Steven didn't agree with the call. I

(51:05):
wouldn't make a call. If we're involved with a player
and somehow Will wasn't involved in the decision of making
the call, I wouldn't do that. And by the way,
those guys and me, we take a lot of opinion.
If you want to criticize me for anything, it is
that maybe I should be make a lot of uninformed
calls or on a contribution to the decision calls.

Speaker 8 (51:29):
But I've done it with consistenc since the day I
walked through the door.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Here.

Speaker 9 (51:33):
We'll do it the same way as we hired flues.
We'll do it together and come up with as good
as we can.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Okay, all right, So there's there one more from Jerry
this hour. We'll have some more next hour. So now
his defense has really struggled on a three under three
different coordinators. So how do you come about putting together
a long term fix? How do you go about mending
this properly where this pattern doesn't continue.

Speaker 9 (52:00):
One of the principles that I have is I like uh,
as I said earlier, I like people who have had
some hard times. In general, I'm a sucker for hard times.
And then I see them with skill of and with

(52:22):
the experience, and if given a chance to really excel,
then they aw the leg off the chair to come
do it.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (52:31):
And that's a that's really if you look at it, uh,
you'll see that pattern in these hires. And I don't
know that we deliberately had that written down, but certainly
the ability to.

Speaker 8 (52:42):
Come back and get it on and.

Speaker 9 (52:47):
We've got to widen of that uh dimension and dismiss
it whatever you want.

Speaker 8 (52:57):
To and we can't let that CRD he you do it.

Speaker 9 (53:00):
I can tell you right now that there's a lot
of reasons why that coming up off the mat is
harder to do, because you've had the wind knocked out
of you, and you might not have the confidence, might
not have some of those things. And I'm talking now
generally here, but coming up off the mat, they should

(53:24):
be heroes. On coming off the mat. Boon Pickens was
my greatest hero, and he got knocked down, slapped knocked
out when he was about eighty, and he came back
dead broke, had to fight over the China when a divorce,
and fought over the China, and then turned around and
five years later you picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille,

(53:47):
and was a billionaire again. And he was so depressed
during that time that he had to lift his leg
out of the bed to get out of bed. He
couldn't feel like going, and he overcame that and went.
I said the same thing before the National Coaches Association
when he was being honored, that here's a guy that
knows how to get knocked down and come up. And

(54:09):
if you can do it when you're eighty and get
there by the time you eighty five, you sure has
had ought to be able to do it when you're
twenty coming back up when you're twenty five. So those
are the kinds of things that were in my thinking
relative to the past. And so that's why that you
see the pattern or somebody rolled in here the profile

(54:30):
where we are so without dwelling on it, we're not
going to follow necessarily that as a criteria profile. We're
gonna develop another good reason to be involved. But I
don't mind telling you it askewed my decision making.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Did he even say the word defense?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
No, it was all about decision making, I guess, I
don't know did he talk about did he talk about defense?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
In there?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I got lost in the whole thing after that.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
All right, you're not alone?

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, exactly. Okay, we've uh, we'll have some college football
notes that we need to get to next. That's coming
up next right here on sports Radio AM thirteen under
the zone of the iHeartRadio app. They're on a yacht

(55:30):
rock Wednesday, Pablo Cruise kind of a flaming comet streaking
through the skies in the late seventies. Two albums and
then gone. But they fit into the yacht rock motif.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Is it on the level of the Miss Lauren Hill
of yacht rock?

Speaker 4 (55:48):
For apps?

Speaker 3 (55:50):
A couple of big albums and then that's it.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Maybe?

Speaker 8 (55:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
They were manned out of San Francisco. They're touring again.
They were, in fact a couple of years ago. They
were at we got the name of the place in
Cedar Pond, small venue. Oh and I wanted to go
and I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Go an so I was just talking about it.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yeah, and I couldn't go, and I wanted to go.
But anyway, yeah, they and they weren't a one hit wonder.
They had multiple hits on both of their albums, but
that was it. It was kind of i'll tell you
what it was, kind of like on a slightly smaller
scale and not slightly on a smaller scale. Boston. Boston
was mega huge in nineteen seventy six, and then we

(56:27):
waited like two years for their next album to come out,
and it came out Don't Look Back, and it was okay,
but it wasn't great. And then that was pretty much it.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Talking about hot Spot in Cedar Park, that's it.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Hot Spot, that's it. They were there, Hargin. I were
there a couple of years ago to do a Super
Bowl watch party thing. We were there and it's cool,
cool venue, so we enjoyed it. But Pablo Cruz was
there back a few months prior to that.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Was that the Ram super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
No, it was forty nine Ers Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Good super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah, it was. It's hard for me to remember much
about to day because I was sick as a dog.
I had an upper respiratory infection and Art was like, dude,
you sound terrible. You need to go home. But we were.
We were, you know, assigned contracted to be there, and
so we were.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I was sick during the last Super Bowl Eagles Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I say, why, you're not a Chiefs fan.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
No, well, I'm definitely not an Eagles fan either, but
I was, but I was just ill. I was watching alone.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, I understand it's not good to be ill when
you're alone either. That didn't happen. Just updating people. Well,
first of all, on the text line, one of our regulars,
our favorite said, went Sark rival on you. Yeah, probably
the talking about my grandson playing chess. I think checkmate. Yeah, yeah,
and it was checkmate. It was pretty quickly the transferred

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portal to update you on it. And yesterday you up
to that. Derek Williams had a change art. Somebody asked
me last week does anybody I think it was my
younger son. Does anybody ever go into the portal and
then come out of it and stay with the school.
And I'm like, yeah, it's happened at Texas, and it's
happened at some other schools, and it just happened again
with Derek Williams.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And Sark has talked about look if you entered the portal,
you're not coming back. So something something different in this situation,
maybe having to do with the new defensive staff. Don't
want to speculate too much.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
It could be and and we're not privy to the
conversations that is throwing a blanket over it. But I've
also heard Sark say there are exceptions to the to
the rule.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
So it could be that Derek said Hey, I want
to check blah blah blah, and then said hey, can
I come back? And you said yeah. So that so
Derek Williams is.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Good on them for leaving the door open to one another.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Right exactly. Bo Barnes was announced is in the portal
and expected to leave the Logornes were able to pick
up the former Rutgers cornerback Bo Mascow uh, and he
has come to Texas through the portal.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
We know about Nate Kibble leaving to go to Baylor
Parker Livingston. A lot has been said about that and
the money involved in going to Oklahoma. The Longhorns picked
up the tight end from Michigan State Michael as soon
as also we know obviously Trey Walk Trey Weister going
to Florida State.

Speaker 9 (59:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
And from Florida State to Texas is Matt Chiumento. The
the punter Connor Strow is headed to Kansas. Gianni Spedic
is uh headed from Memphis to Texas. Uh he is
a kicker, and uh the Longhorns also are getting uh

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the deep snapper tray De Buck coming in from uh
New Mexico to Texas. And from Arkansas, uh Ian Giffard,
the defensive lineman. So those are those are some that
are that are coming to Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, and they remember they got the commit from trot O'Neil,
the five star long snapper from Prestonwood Christian Who's who
I got to cover this year. Unfortunately I only got
to see if snap extra points all perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
There were a lot of points in that game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
They didn't punt.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
They didn't punt. They only they had a couple of turnovers.
Still punts.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Okay, all right, they just decided not to do that. Okay,
here's an interesting take on this whole thing about the
portal college football playoff, of course, resumes tomorrow night with
the Verbo Fiesta Bowl in Glendale. It is Miami and

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Ole Miss. So here's Miami getting ready to play in
the final four. They also, however, have six players in
the transfer portal. Mario Christobal, they had coach, was asked
today if he thought opponents would attempt to contact former
play for inside information during the playoff and the portal overlap.

(01:01:05):
He said it happens all the time, but he's not
pointing the finger in any players who left the program.
But it was an interesting quote. He said, if you
don't think it happens, we're kidding ourselves. But I blame
the adults. We created this system, right, we're supposed to
be setting an example. We're supposed to be setting the standard.
When you create a system that has as many holes

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as it does, shame on you if you're surprised by
some of the results that come with it. And so
you got that, you got Miami playing Old Miss, then
you got Old Miss where Lane Kiffin had left. And
some of the coaches are being allowed to still work
for Ole Miss during this Others have been told they

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need to get to LSU by Kiffin. So Pet Golding,
the new head coach who did Trinidad Chambliss Uh and
uh Kawan Lacy Bolk saying they're coming back. Golding says
that that there's some margin involved here for potential tampering,

(01:02:15):
trading off inside information, or just general distractions that comes
with it. He said, it's competition. Here was a quote
people trying to win. It says, if you're playing tennis
or whatever, people are trying to win, a lot of
people would do whatever it takes to win at their job,
regardless morally what it is. We always have to deal
with that. He wasn't saying Lane Kiven, but I think

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a lot of folks are taking that leap there. And
Christo Baul said he thought what Golding's done has been
amazing and taking up the old miss program and getting
to the final four. He said, taking over a program
in this landscape, I have a tremendous amount of respect
and admiration for what his work has been. To be
able to navigate all this and still have the success

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he's having. It's off the charts.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
It's awesome with his assistance splitting time to buildings.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yeah, So Christobaul by the way, said he would be
open to any changes. I think I'm hearing all coaches
say this, open any changes to address the competing incentives
at this time of year. That's the important thing in
I remember competing incentives at this time of year. He
did acknowledge there'd be some mitigating factors. He said, quote,

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we could certainly sit and have a lengthy dissertation or conversation,
but I think the powers that be are doing everything
possible to make it make sense, make it something that's
feasible academically from a football standpoint, from a health standpoint
as well. But if you get to this point in
the season, regardless of the challenges that come with it,
you have to be extremely grateful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
So you have the landing idea play the championship game
December for I mean, I'm sorry New Year's Day, have
the portal opened directly after that, but there are complications
with that, especially if you're expanding the field.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Yep, yep. It depends on how long you keep the
portal open as well. We'll be back to wrap up
hour number two on thirteen under his zone. Third and
final hour of the program here on the at Rock
Wednesday afternoon on Sports Radio AM thirteen under his zone,
Craig Way with you alongside the producer Jay Carman. Glad
to have you with us as well. With you up

(01:04:20):
until five o'clock Vino and Rich Fox Sports Radio. After that,
it's good to hear Billy Joel singing there in case
you didn't hear it when we were talking about a
little over an hour ago. Billy Joel apparently is doing
much better since he popped on stage when a Billy
Joel tribute band was doing his was doing his selections

(01:04:44):
covering all of those and he hopped up on stage
and did we didn't start the fire and he did
Big Shot as well. He's seventy six. He's been coming
off some serious health conditions that included like swelling in
his brain and things like that, and he did say

(01:05:05):
I didn't expect to be working tonight. That he did
do two songs, had his daughters up on stage there
with him as well, So it was good. It was
really good, really good to hear that he's back in
the fall. So hopefully he'll be back on tour. We'll
find out over time. Okay, coming up, we'll hear more
from Jerry Jones, a little bit. We're gonna hear from
Texas women's head coach Vick Schaeffer, more on the college

(01:05:27):
football playoffs and a little bit of an early look
at the Pro football playoffs. We'll get to that. But
speaking of pro football, we'll get to Jerry Jones as
well in a few minutes talking about the Cowboys his
end of season thoughts. Thoughts on the long run basketball team.
Their lost last night to Tennessee drops them to one

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to two, and Southeastern Conference play didn't get any easier.
Gott to go to Tuscaloosa. They fly on Friday, play
Saturday night in Tuscaloosa, and they'll play the Alabama Crimson type.
But they come off that loss to Tennessee last night
that was clearly marked by a couple of things. The
log worns inability to be able to keep from turning

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over the ball a lot early and to hit shots
which they couldn't make. I think they were shooting thirty
six percent at halftime something like that. So there was that,
And then they struggled to guard the perimeter and Jacoby
Gillespie had a career high thirty four. That's one game

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after Josh Hubbard had thirty eight, and the mounting frustration
of head coach Chahn Miller finally reached a crucial point
where he made changes. About six minutes into the second half,
Monus Pocotitos was already on the bench with four fouls.

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He added to the guys on the bench the starting
point guard Jordan Pope, and then probably about the thirteen
minute market Daylan Swayne and for the larger measure, I
should say, the largest measure of the remaining whatever thirteen
some odd minutes the game, his lineup pretty much consisted

(01:07:16):
of Sime and Wilcher at the point, rotating on that
occasionally with either Tremon Mark or Kenda Weaver, but all
three route there together for a lot of that time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Simmy and Wilter plus fourteen in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah, it's some threes. And it took him a while.
It has taken him a while since he transferred from
Saint John's to get comfortable with his role, but he's
gotten better and better at it, and it wouldn't surprise
me if he winds up starting on Saturday. But anyway,
so sim was out there along with Kendal Weaver, who

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also had one of his better games certainly of this season,
and Tremont Mark wound up with twenty points in the
ball game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Drew six fouls in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Yeah, because he'll get in there and mix it up
with you, he'll get in there and just crash in.
And then the other guys he had Cam Heidi and
then Lasina Treiori what with vocatitis on the bench and
foul difficulty, and Nick Cody actually gave them some decent
minutes out there when he was out there, so it
was a different look, and they still wound up losing

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by fourteen, but they made a couple of big runs.
They were down twenty three when he started making these changes.
They cut it to ten. Tennessee pushed him back out
the eighteen. Texas cut it to twelve with an inbounds
pass coming off an intentional foul and a dunk from Weaver.
He then made two free throws because it was at

(01:08:45):
sixteen the margin. He cut all of that, cut it
to twelve and they have the ball in bounding but
gilespie stole the inbounds pass. He get a bucket and
they didn't really look back from there. So Miller has
asked what allowed Tennessee to keep the lead despite these
runs that the long Wars had in the second half.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
You know, I thought Tennessee was better than us. You know,
they right when you're like, man, they could get it
under ten, they would answer. You know, they played with
a big lead throughout the game, and sometimes when you're
the team playing with the big lead, it's hard to sustain,
you know, that effort. But when they really needed to
clamp down, they did. You know, I also think from
a free throw perspective, I think they miss some free throws,

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which which always helps.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
And again that's something we did well.

Speaker 7 (01:09:32):
You know, once we got over I thought maybe the
jitters at the at the beginning or whatever that that was.
We ended up going sixteen of twenty from the free
throw line, which was which was good to see.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yeah, Lacina Treori had all four of his. He went
into like at forty seven percent of the line, so
that was good to see. Ken Weaver made his free throws,
Trema Mark buying large made his. He missed a couple
early but then later. So they did a better job
from the line, but they couldn't get over the top. TCU.
And here's that fought that question again with regard to

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that e word effort. And we heard your Malagi in
the postgame saying when we he aired it in the
two o'clock hour that the coaching staff felt they were
not getting the effort they were supposed to get from
some of those guys, and earlier in the program we
heard Sean Miller say, if you're not going to give
that kind of effort, you're not going to be out there.
So he was asked, was he surprised at this point

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in the season because it's past the numerical halfway mark.
They've only played two conference games out of eighteen, but
still they're pasted the numerical mark of the season. So
is he surprised at this point in the season to
be still talking about effort?

Speaker 7 (01:10:51):
You know, I became the coach here in March twenty eighth,
and it was a very chaotic ten weeks, eight weeks after.
You know, in today's world, when you come in, you know,
just it's kind of like you got a clean slate
and you have to make a lot of decisions and
build a team in a hurry. So no, I think
we learn more and more about individuals on our team.

(01:11:13):
I think we learn more and more about our team
as each practice, each week goes and really the next opportunity, right,
you learn from Mississippi State. I thought I learned a
lot Tonight. We had a couple of guys that just
really didn't want to play. And if you don't want
to play, just you're not allowed to enter the game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
You just can't.

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
You can't be the guy caught up in your own world,
your your own effort level things that are happening to you.
Is so much about this game. It's about the team,
and you have to be able to play defense and offense.
I liked our effort so much better in the second half.
And one of the reasons our effort level is good
is that guys in the game were playing at a

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much greater effort level.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Okay, all right, And it brings one more thing that
maybe the most surprising part of it, if even if
you weren't surprised by what he had to do because
of guys at the effort was Dalan Swayn coming off
a career game, career high thirty four points, career high
fourteen rebounds, just a monstrous effort. But he was definitely
slowed down and some of it was self inflicted with

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some of the turnovers as well. So he was asked
how Tennessee went about slowing down Daylan Swain.

Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
You know, Dalen was amazing against Mississippi State, but There's
a difference between being amazing against Mississippi State on Saturday
and then being able to on a quick turnaround play
play good again. You know that that's the role on
our team that he has, where night in, night out,
he's going to be a marked man and he has
to play well.

Speaker 8 (01:12:43):
He didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
He didn't have it. He didn't have it tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
You know, he had seven turnovers in twenty two minutes
and you know, could have had ten, ten turnovers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
So that was I think a big part of the
frustrating part for Sean Miller because we're talking about the
guy who was his player at Xavier, a guy who
played really really well at Xavier, a guy who followed
him here. So anyway, that's where that is, and we'll

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see how how it goes when they go to Tuscaloosa
to take on the Alabama Crimson Tide on Saturday evening,
and it will be a seven o'clock tip off on
Saturday night, and certainly the Longhorns are facing a very

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difficult assignment in taking on this Alabama team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, number two I think in the country Alabama when
it comes to offensive efficiency and look, the way to
beat Alabama at least the NATO's Alabama is to play
at your own pace right, dictate pace, and also have
a really good rebounding night, because when Alabama gains in
shooting and pace, sometimes they sacrifice that in length and

(01:14:08):
ability to defend without fouling in the post. So a
guy like Modus Fokatita should have some opportunities if he's
on his game, to be able to get to the
free throw line.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
But if you don't guard the three, you have no chance.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Yep. And that comes down to another problem that they
had both Saturday against Mississippi State and last night in Knoxville,
and that is what Seawan Miller refers to is dying
on screens. You gotta be able to fight at the
top of that screen. Can't go under the screen. A
lot of time it's gonna give the guy a wide
open look. But you can't just like run into the

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screen like a brick wall and go down or just
be stopped in your tracks while a quick guard like
a Hubbard or a Gillespie quickly steps around you using
the screen to create an open look, and then quite
often they're gonna bang down the three. They're gonna knock
it down. So That was one of the things we
talked about in the pre game yesterday, and it just
didn't happen in the game. It's the ability to fight

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through the screen. What you find in the SEC is
a lot of these teams are really really good screening teams.
They can ball screen with the best of them to
set up their high volume shooters, and that's something Texas
is just gonna have to get better at. They're just
gonna have to get better at it. If you want
want an indication of what might happen tonight, Alabama plays

(01:15:26):
at Vanderbilt, I am kind of curious about this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, Nato said some spicy comments about Vanderbilt. He said, yeah,
they're good, but they haven't really played anybody yet, essentially,
is what he said.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
And you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
You don't often hear coaches give out bulletin board material
like that in this day and age of social media.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, so they're fourteen, and oh Vanderbilt is going in
into that game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Yeah, top twenty offense and defense efficiency. You look for
their best win, it's probably SMU who they thumped eighty
eight to sixty nine and a Memorial Coliseum in Nashville.
They started SEC play beating South Carolina by twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
They beat Memphis in over time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
That the schedule is not a gauntlet for Vanderbilt, but
they're a good ball they're a good basketball team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yeah, it is weird. Both the men's and women's teams
at Vanderbilt are both undefeated. Wow. The Texas women have
to play at Vanderbilt next month. The Texas men play
Vanderbilt at home one week from tonight. All right, up next,
more from Jerry Jones on this thing that is the
Cowboys' issues when we continue on thirteen under the zone.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
That's so un tape and the untrol young, what do
I want to say?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Well, this ship's right into the yacht rock genre. Al Wilson,
We're shown here on a yacht rock Wednesday on AM
thirteen hundred, his own Craig Way, alongside the producer Jay Carman.

(01:17:23):
Glad to have you with us as well. All right,
I wanted to hear some more from Jerry Jones, right right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
I'm not sure where it's not sure where where it's
going or what he's going to say, but sure.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, so we'll move to some
Jerry jonesound and here and this was from a kind
of state of the team press conference, and he was
asked about the defensive turnarounds because we're talking about how

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much his defense had struggled, and he's he was asked
if if it's possible to replicate that quick defensive turnaround
that he got out of dan Quinn, which ultimately led
to dan Quinn getting the head job of the Washing commanders.

Speaker 9 (01:18:14):
Well, I'll be very candid with you. I'm not sure
you know what we think of dan Quinn. And we
really admire everything that that we had with Dan, but
we didn't get where we want to get, not because
of Dan, but we weren't. We couldn't stop the run

(01:18:36):
when it got down to the nut cut, and so
there's some aspects of that those turnovers we had with Dan.
My gunness put me in line. I'll stand up out
there for that every time. And they cover up you
know a lot of things about cooking.

Speaker 8 (01:18:55):
Cooking.

Speaker 9 (01:18:57):
If you make it so hot that it burns the
roof mouth, and you make it so cold that it's
like hot ice, it'll cover up a lot of the
frailities of your talent on cooking, and so you can
put some pretty good stuff out there. Well, of those
principles haven't necessarily worked for us. That doesn't mean that

(01:19:18):
we won't have an ex head coach in here at all,
but it won't be the emphasis, at least on my part,
to today and what we're dealing with with defenses today.

Speaker 8 (01:19:30):
But I have had a lot of luck, of luck whatever,
you have.

Speaker 9 (01:19:35):
Had a lot of good decisions made based on taking
people that for whatever the reason or out of the
step right then and giving them another opportunity when they
have had accomplishment in their background, both in football and
out of football.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Okay, another of other defense sort of enough about cooking, yeah, right,
Contract negotiations Okay, George Picken's coming up for negotiation. How
does he plan to approach that and would it be
different from how things went that whole process that was

(01:20:11):
a mess with Michael Parsons.

Speaker 8 (01:20:13):
Well, I don't even think about it because I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:20:21):
Buy into or agree with the characterization of our of
the negotiation you're referring to by anybody, And I don't agree,
And I know they don't know because they can't get
inside my head, for one. So but I will tell
you the characterations, the characterizations of a lot of the

(01:20:42):
way that I handle the Michael Parsons negotiation is so
bast efforts from where it actually came down, it's unbelievable.
And they certainly didn't realize ever that there was always
from the get go a concern about going forward with

(01:21:06):
that much invested, with all the things. You have to
think about availability, allocation of that much money. By the way,
everybody in this business has to think about how much
allocation and when you allocate, better start thinking about availability too,
because that's a big criteria there on Are they're going

(01:21:27):
to be on the field to basically.

Speaker 8 (01:21:30):
Get what you got? That's a big deal.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
And so some places it's unavoidable at quarterback, it's unavoidable there,
but other places you've got some choices and it's either
are So that was.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
The driver and always was the driver. And Micah.

Speaker 9 (01:21:50):
I really do think a lot of Micah and he's
brilliant in a lot of different ways. So and wish
him the greatest success you've ever saying, And don't even
think the least if he has a condescending remark or
interprets my remarks as condescending, that that's just not the

(01:22:11):
way that I interpret this situation at all. What I
am going to say, is I'm glad I'm sitting right
here where we are. I am proud of that, and
I know he's happy where he is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
That's right, seven nine and one, very proud and no
condescending remarks. As he said, I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Didn't he just start the press conference talking about which
we heard last hour. That is the first time he's
been disappointed. I think there was some sarcasm in there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, stall right exactly. Next he was asked, will there
be since we're talking about contract and he really didn't
get that much anyone on the first sound No.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
This was the same reporter following up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Okay, so will you have direct contact with Pickens like
he did with Parsons.

Speaker 9 (01:22:59):
So much of that has to do with option, quarterbacking, reading,
reading the move as you need to take the next step.
And so I wouldn't dare try to say I'll do
anything relative to a business negotiation or in this case,
contract negotiation. I wouldn't dare make a comparison between any

(01:23:23):
contract on the goal because human reaction is human of situations,
and so uh, there won't be uh, there won't be
any comparison. Uh And uh, gosh, you guys know me
pretty well in here.

Speaker 8 (01:23:38):
I can be as as uh whatever you want me
to be uh, and I can be sweet or I
can be other way too, So however we need to
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
All they want to know is are you going to
try and do this thing with George Pickens, Jerry like
you did with Michael?

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Is that all that the direct confort?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
All right? And then may be saving the best for last.
And before even hearing this, I kind of had a
feeling of where this was going to go because he
was asked, Now, this is kind of a captain obvious question.
He was asked about what does he say to fans
who want more postseason success? I mean, his general reaction

(01:24:22):
going to be saying, well, we all want most more
postseason success. So what does he say to fans who
are asking for more of that?

Speaker 8 (01:24:29):
Well, first of.

Speaker 9 (01:24:29):
All, I'm talking to the fan and you are saying, Jerry,
I want more. And I have lived a life of
having people say Jerry, I want more. I expect that,
and Jerry wants more. To be talking to third person,

(01:24:51):
which I don't want to do, but I know we
want more. I want more. And my point to you
is that I feel whether you or others would disagree.
Our best way to get more. Our best way to

(01:25:14):
get more is to do what we're going to be
doing over the next few days. Last year, I thought
the best way to get more, and it was a consensus,
was to have Right come on and be the head coach.

Speaker 8 (01:25:26):
I thought that was a better way for us to
get more.

Speaker 9 (01:25:30):
I happen to know, because I've been in this NFL
for this many years, I happen to know that you
don't always get more, and sometimes you get it, you
get some real shockers as time has gone along. I
want our fans to know how important this is to me.

(01:25:51):
I want our fans know that I lay awake at
night looking for an edge. I want them to know that,
contrary to popular belief, the financial rewards of what we
decide in the draft, or have as a football team
or what have you, is not an issue at all here,
not an issue at all. I would give his resference.

(01:26:15):
It wasn't when I did the very foolish thing of
buying the team to begin with, which was very foolish
financially to buy the food not a smart move at all. Now,
wonderful things have happened, and I've been riding along to
get the benefit of a lot of those wonderful things.
But I I'm driven from my case to do as

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good a job as I can. Steven has huge influence
on me, Shoddy has tremendous influence on me. Others have
a lot of influence. I'm beyond ego. Don't need another award.
I want to win the football game. That felt so

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good to win that game against Washington that I wanted
to play this game like it was the super Bowl
out here against the Giants, And that's why I want
to play it. A win is a big deal. A
win is a big deal. Do we need to be strategic?
Does it help to have we lost Sunday? Does it
help to have these draft picks that we're going to

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these extra power in the draft? Yes, that's sensible. I'm
beyond being sensible relative to that. So that's all I've
got to say is I'm on the incentive plan more
than I've ever been. If I took a vote, I
know about where it would be. But when's last time
you read somebody that was making decisions that if you

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took a vote, they wouldn't get to make that decision.
But they don't vote, and so I'm not being any
way other than that's what I do. That's why I'm here,
and that's why we are doing everything we can to
figure out to make a Super Bowl. These guys will
tell you that I will change my mind on a
dime on a dime if they come in with a

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better idea and a better suggestion that got enough influence
to with their logic to take advantage of it. I
want them to be sure that they've thought about it
as much as I think about it, and they do.
But I don't want anybody just with ideas or holding
their finger up in there. I want some real meat
on the bone when they come in.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
And we do it differently.

Speaker 8 (01:28:30):
So that's the way it is. Body of work.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Where it is.

Speaker 9 (01:28:37):
I can tell you I look back when we started,
we did it exactly the same way from the first
day I've ever walked through the door, and there's never
been a difference in the way we do it than
the way we're doing right there. So whatever the goods been,
the goods there, whatever the bad's being the bads.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
There, and whatever Jerry is, Jerry is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
A lot of food metaphors up there. I think he
got hungry.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
They probably went for lunch. They used to have the
press conferences catered by Cafe Margo, which was really nice
in Dallas. I don't think that's around anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:29:08):
On them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Maybe they just went out for lunch, or they ordered
in or something. All right, coming up, we're gonna hear
from a man who can also turn a phrase, but
can be pretty blunt and direct about it as well.
It's big schef for the Texas women's coach. We'll hear
from him. Coming up. On thirteen hunderd the zone showers
washed all night.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
I wake up to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
I don't won't forget any rain. There was a slight
chance of it today. I may not get much of
it here for the next several days. I really don't
have a problem with that. I getting rain, but I
like nice weather. The Immortal Eddy Rabbit one of his
big hits there. I love a rainy nights from the
early days, early eighties. Here on the yacht Rock Wednesday,

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on thirteen hundred the Son. If you take a look
look at the standings in the SEC for women's basketball,
it's one of the most obvious statements you can make
that this league it isn't even close as to who

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is the best league in the country. The worst record
of all of these teams is Texas A and M.
And they're seven and four, and they've they've had some struggles,
but other than that, you have from the bottom working up.
Arkansas eleven and six, Auburn eleven and five, Missouri twelve
and five, Florida twelve and five, LSU fourteen and two,

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and the two losses are inn SEC play. They'reh to
two in the conference, Ole Miss fourteen and three, Mississippi
State fifteen and one, Georgia fifteen and one, Alabama fifteen
and one, Tennessee is ten and three, even the two
and zero in the league, Oklahoma's fourteen and one, South
Carolina's fifteen and one, Kentucky's fifteen in one, Vanderbilt is
fifteen and oh, and sitting at the top of the standings,

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Texas is seventeen and oh. But it's about to get
real serious now. Already been two conference games played Tomorrow night.
Elis who is at Georgia, Kentucky at Alabama. That will
reveal a little bit there. A Mn's at Florida, Ole
Miss at Oklahoma will be a big game. South Carolina

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should handle its business at Arkansas Tennessee. Mississippi State could
be interesting. Missouri at Vanderbilt Vanderbert, we'll find out little
more about how for real Vanderbilt is. They're unbeaten and
Texas is at home against Auburn. Vic Shaffer with believe
every game is going to be a grind in this league.
And he had a zoom just a just a few

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minutes ago, and we're gonna will bring you most of
the sound from that along with Ashton Judd tomorrow on
the program. But here's a sampling of it. Here's here's
Vick Schaeffer from that women's basketball media availability, just a
little will while ago on the zoom.

Speaker 6 (01:32:01):
Just another day, another week living in the SEC and
got to get ready to play a really good Auburn team.
They won eleven games for a reason. I think they're improved.
I think they play really hard. I think coach is

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doing a great job with them. I think this is
a team that has probably the most speed and you know,
explosiveness down the floor that I've seen in a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
They get out and run the break.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
So taking care of the ball is going to be
really really important. If you turn it over, it's a
lay up the other way, and that's you know, credit
to coach and his staff. They got those kids playing
so hard. They are a great defensive team, do a
great job on that end. And again, they just play

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extremely hard. So we've got they've been in every game
that they've had. They've lost some close games. They've had
a lot of close games that they won. They've got
something that they've lost, but they've been in a bunch
of close games.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
So we'll have to play really, really well.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
Our focus the last few days has been to fix
what was broke on Sunday in the fourth quarter, and
then we got to get ready to really do a
great job against a like I said, an explosive Auburn team.
I mean, they explode down the floor, y'all, and I
hope you don't get to see it, because if you do,
it's bad. It means we ain't doing what we're supposed

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to be doing. And but they literally explode down the floor.
So yesterday wasn't a great day of practice. Today was
much better. And again, we have so much room for
growth and development with our own team here, and you know,
the only way you're going to grow and develop and

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get better is bring it to practice every day and
we're still learning to do that, and that's just part
of it. So it's my job to get it out
of them and in part to them the importance of
embracing the grind, embracing the fundamentals, the boredom of the fundamentals,
because that's what it takes to be great. That's what

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separates the good from the great, is the embracing of
the boredom of the fundamentals.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I think Vic thought that they kind of got bored
with the game on Sunday afternoon against Ole Miss, and
you can't do that against a really good team like
Ole Miss if we're at number fifteen in the country
going in. Texas had a nineteen point lead in the
third quarter and it was whittled down to three on
several occasions, including at the tail end of the game,
and Ole Miss even had a turnaround opportunity to tie

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the scorn of three at the buzzer and went off
the rim. So we're gonna hear more from Vic Shaffer
and we'll hear from Ashton Judd as well. He was
talking about Auburn. Auburn went through a coaching change, just
like what Texas is going through on the men's side,
Auburn is Auburn made a coaching change. Johnny Harris had
been the head coach. She had been Vic's assistant here

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in Austin at Texas the first season when the Long
Wrens went to the el Eed eight, and she'd been
an assistant with him at Mississippi State, so she got
a head coaching opportunity didn't work out at Auburn and
they made a coaching change, and the new coach is
Larry Vickers, who spent the prior decade at Norfolk State,

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leading the women's program to unprecedented heights, three consecutive conference
championships and NCAA Tournament appearances. So this guy who's been
coaching for eighteen years coming in. He also spent eight
years as a men's assistant and associated head coach for
Norfolk State and was there as an assistant when Norfolk
State pulled off one of those fifteen over two shocking upsets.

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Remember when they was back in twenty twelve. Remember when
they beat Missouri, who is a number two seed in twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Yeah, I had Missouri going deep in my bracket that year.
I was just old enough.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
I started to say, you had to be young.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
I was young filling out brackets, but it was so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
We would put them up on the refrigerator, cross out
with red pen or circle it in green.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
And you had Missouri going deep in the tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
I did I remember they had to guard Leo Lyons.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Yeah, yeah, they did. My own recollection of that. That
twenty twelve NCAA tournament Men's and women's is twofold. The
men were in Nashville to play Cincinnati in the first
round and the team we all fly and we get

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into Nashville and it's the night before the game, and
so it's I say night, It's like six fifteen, six thirty.
Eddie or and I walked down into the team room,
the meal room. I'm going to get some dinner. In fact,
I I made a plate but had not started eating.
I just sat down, and Eddie had made a plate,
and his threaty Rick Barnes, walks in and he walks

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over and he looks at the food. It was really
nice spread set up there at the hotel. Looks at
it and we happened to our table was situation that
situated pretty close to the buffet thing, and so I
saw him walk over there look at it, and I
saw him shake his head and he walks over toward us,
and he goes, I can't eat this, because what he
meant was it had become routine, whether it's a steak

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or a chicken or a piece of fish or whatever,
and white rice, all the protein things for the players
and stuff. He goes, I can't eat this. He looks
at me, he says, you get a car. I said yeah.
He goes, come on, so and he goes, come on, Eddie.
So we get in the car and we drive to
this place had never been to before that he knew.
And I have since fallen in love with it and

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eaten there four or five times when i've gone through.
Called Monell's mon Et l l Apostrophe. Yes it's in
an old church, and they got another location of it
as well. Him. But it's a deal where you're going
to eat. Families down and you sit down at these
long tables and it's it's comfort food, home cooking food,
and it's all you could possibly eat. And it was

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like eighteen bucks or something was a really really we
go and these huge bowls and mashed potatoes and corn
casse roll and corn pudding and green beans and collars,
and then unbelievable spreads of fried chicken and roast and
all of this stuff, and then in great desserts as well,

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ban hada pudding and all these other kind of things.
He knew about it. We didn't know about it. So
we ate, We ate had a good time. Edi had
even eaten some of his you know, he's still late.
And so we've gone back several times, not with Rick,
Barnes says, although I've texted Rick a couple of times
when I've been there, Linden. I went through there last
summer and I texted us, hey, here at Monel's. So
we've gone there. But the record, at least in terms

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of our little company, was set last year by one
Cameron Parker. You see, last March we were there for
the SEC tournament and Eddie and I were like, we
had to go to Monail's. We have to go. And
I said, Cam, you got to go with us to Monel's.
I say, I don't know if I want to get out.
And I said, listen, dude, I'm buying. I just want
to watch you eat. I want you to take this on,

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like okay, all right? So he goes and like I said,
it's all you can eat. So they bring you a
fresh plate, you get another plate. I have one plate
that I just loaded up with all that kind of
food and stuff, and I struggled to get through the
one plate, but I did. And Eddie had gotten seconds
on a couple of things. And you sit at these
long tables with other people and they just bring the

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balls and you pass around the plates and the bowls,
family style and all this stuff. And it's real homespun
and it's in like a former church. I'm here to
tell you. Cameron Parker ate four full plates of food
that included eight pieces of fried chicken, eight biscuits. He
had all kinds of second and third helpings of mashed

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potatoes and corn pudding and green beans and salad and
all of this stuff. It was just it just did
my heart good watch to watch that kind of gastronomical display.
So that was there. But the point that I was
going to make is we ate there that night, and
I've been back several times since.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
You're talking eight pieces of fried chicken, eight legs, eight thighs,
eight dress.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Yes, all of the above. I mean probably two to
two two and two you know, he just continued to
put away the food.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
That's like a that's like a week for me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
I'm telling you he can. He can pack away the groceries.
There's a reason Eddie Orton says that Cameron Parker's on
the All knife and fourteen because he can eat well
and where it goes to he works out a lot.
So he's just still a tall, strapping young man, but
he's it's amazing how he can put away the groceries.
So I made the point yesterday. I said, when we

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when we go back to Nashville, went back to Moow,
I got to have Cam to a repeat performance. My
wife loves the place to London and we've been there
a couple of times. A lot of the celebrities, country
music artists going there to eat and all that other
kind of stuff. So there was that, And then after
Texas lost to Cincinnati, I called a quick flight to
Norfolk to do the women. The next day, playing West

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Virginia in the first round of the NC he had
tournament and when I landed in Norfolk, Norfolk State had
just finished upsetting Missouri and the town was all a
buzz and electric. So it made me think about that,
but also made me think of monails because it's a
great place to eat. Love that we'll be back to
wrap it up on thirteen hunder the Zone