State Championship Previews, NFL Notes, and Vic Schaefer Soundbites

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Maybe it's because we're in the throes of the holiday
season right SmackDown in the middle of it, between Thanksgiving
and Christmas.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hanukkah's on what day three?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Jake Night three coming up?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Night three coming up. But what I sort to say is.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Traffic wasn't as crappy as it normally is on Tuesdays.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I noticed that that was good.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's good people's in, people are in the holiday giving mood,
giving people a break, So that's good.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's better than giving people something else on the.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Road you had no doubt. So anyway, we welcome you
to the program here on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
My name is Craig Way. Thanks very much for joining us.
The producer is Jay Carman. He's alongside as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
So at night three for you with Honnik, is that
the deal?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, that's that's right. And you know, I'm looking forward
to celebrating towards the back half of it with my
girlfriend this weekend. It's not it's not the same by myself.
That's one of the first for me. I guess up
in North Dakota, I did that.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
But I guess, you know what, I guess that's pretty
faith and ecumenically balanced across the board. Holidays are better
with if you're with other people, no matter your faith,
right right, yeah, okay, yeah, that makes that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
We lit the candles on FaceTime. It was we made
the best of it.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
There you go, all right, very good.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
And for those of you, myself included, understand, you have
eight shopping days remaining until Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I repeat, the store will close it eight days, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Christmas Eve. Better get it done. So it's eight days
from the day.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
So I guess counting today or what's left of it,
eight and a half days worth of shopping or up
until the stores, you know, on Christmas Eve shut down
for the night around six o'clock or something.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And I've got a family full of November birthdays. I've
got a November you know, dating anniversary, so I've already
been in gift mode down there. You got dating anniversary, well,
the anniversary of when you when you started dating?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So what what do you market by years or like
some people do, even like weeks and months?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It was it was weeks and months at the beginning,
more of a year. Now it's been four years.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, very good, very good, which then begs the next questions.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Four years eh, you get.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Anywhere along in your and your decision making and planning there.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
On that Mike still, let me make sure we're clear.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I understand. Hey, here's what we have for you today.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
We have long worn basketball coming up for you is
tonight at Texas and Hose.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Texas and Knows. Well, yeah, that'll follow the show tonight,
it'll file, it'll follow this show before the basketball game.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
That's that's what it looks like.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Five thirty to six thirty I think is it or
five thirty to six I can't I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Texas and O's will run from five to five thirty.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Five to five thirty, okay for folks who don't know
what Texas and It's not like a breakfast cereal or something.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Like that would buy that.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I'll have a box of Texas and O's. By the way,
there is a serial item in today's Inconceivable.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, so we'll have that coming up.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
But no, that's a program that features some you know,
former and current Longhorns and a lot of conversation and
things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So that's coming up at five o'clock.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Six point thirty is the pregame start time for Longhorn basketball.
The men are back on the floor playing the le
Moyne University Dolphins. And again, I'm kind of puzzled by this,
but I've been a little busy, so I haven't had
a chance to look it up. Why a school in
the center part of upstate New York goes by dolphins?
Lemoyne University from Syracuse. Anyway, the Longhorns play them tonight

(04:00):
at seven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
We'll have it for Eddie. Orne'll join me for the call.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Six thirty airtime, seven o'clock tip here on the zone
as Texas plays Lamoine.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
You have an answer for me already. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
This is from LeMoyne's athletics website. The dolphin is the
symbol and mascot of Lemoine. The use became common among
Christians of the second century AD. Popularly considered to be
friendly towards man, representing love and tenderness. Noted for its
grace and swiftness, the dolphin also symbolizes the desire for knowledge,
so religious tie in.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay, all right, I can see them, I started saying.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
The dolphin also symbolizes being it by the ocean, hence
Miami Dolphins Jacksonville University Dolphins, not upstate New York.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
But maybe the King will have something to say later.
I got some motion front property in Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Ney, Y's right, That's right, because it is, after all,
a Texan Tuesday, where we do hear from the King
George Strait in the four o'clock hour, we hear from
the iconic Willie Nelson in the three o'clock hour, and
we hear from the immortal Stevie ray Vaughan in the
two o'clock hour.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So we have that coming up.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Did you give much attention to Monday Night football last night? Oh?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I did, Craig. I did until about the third quarter
when Aaron Rodgers found DK Metcalf over the middle for
a twenty eight yard touchdown that set my fantasy season
spiraling down the drain.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh I thought you needed dk Metcalf to do something.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I needed a sabotage. I needed Dk Metcalf to drop
every ball that came his way. If he scored four points,
I would have lost. He was sitting on two and
a half for the entire ball game, pretty much after
the Steelers opening drive, and then on one of the
final meaningful passes that Rogers was going to throw in
that game, right, the fatal blow was struck.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We hit it with the touchdown bass.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
And my title defense has ended.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, all right, at least you got to say had
a defensive attie. I mean, I'm I got knocked out
in the playoffs by my own son, and I didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I didn't. I didn't have a title to come off of.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
So so now so now do you root for him?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, family, after that?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
What does it?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Coaches like, say, real life coaches, They say, well, I
root for the playing somebody they know. Really, I root
for him three hundred and sixty four days here except
when we play.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Do you think any Longhorn fans are rooting for even
no sec thing.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Even yeah, it's it's just one. It won't happen. Georgia
probably not.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Not Ohio State, No, No, most long worn fans are
rooting very hard for James Madison and and and Tulane.
Maybe Indiana, that's a good story, yeah, they nobody has any.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Real quarrel with Indiana. Oregon not so much.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Uh yeah, and and now on Alabama and not Oklahoma,
Texas Tech No, No, no, I'm just saying from the
feedback I get from longer Aroune, I'm not talking about
me personally. I'm saying, of course I have friends connected
with every one of those institutions, and I feel good
for them when they benefit by those institutions advancing.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Let me just put it that way.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
So, but most rank and file long worn fans are
not going to root for any of those teams you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
They're not down with that.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Folks can agree or disagree on the text line if
you want to. All you have to do is text
the word Texas fossow by your question or comment to
eight one five three zero. Standard messaging and data rates
may apply. So you may say no, no, no, no, I'm good.
I'm good with Bama. Now, Texas didn't play Alabama though,
sure I got respect for the program.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
We're an SEC school now it means more.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, you know, here's something else that I've discovered about
all of that, and I'm not surprised by all of that.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And we're gonna have a story.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
You're coming up with the four four o'clock hour about
the captain obvious type of story and it revolves around
the long run football program.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Don't get me start out on it.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'll vent my spleen when we come up to the
four o'clock hour about it.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
But there.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
There will be Like I said, people can can let
me know at this. But the one thing that I've
found out is that is when you say it just
means more in the SEC and all this kind of stuff.
One thing that's not different in the SEC, that's any
different from the Big Twelve, the Southwest Conference, those other

(08:38):
two leagues Texas was in, or other leagues that other
schools are into. You don't want the teams in your
league doing better than you because it makes your job
more difficult as a fan, as a you know, as
a player.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I used to hear all the time for years that
anything people so I don't it doesn't bother me. If
A and M gets a four star recruit or five
star recruit, whether Texas wanted them or not, or Oklahoma,
then there's that other side where a lot of people
say no, no, no, no, anything that's good for them is
not good for Texas, So nothing good can come from

(09:18):
that or something that's that's how that's the viewpoint of
a lot not only of Long Corn fans. But you
go around the SEC and you know the same thing.
This business of it just means more. It means more
in some ways. Uh, the the aggrieved aggravations and uh
and aspersions cast on the other programs by schools.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
That means more too. There's people that getting more amped up.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Ask an Alabama or Auburn fan how they feel about that,
or Georgia and Florida and the LSU, and you know
in Arkansas and it at Tennessee and Kentucky and all that.
You you go around the league. Tennessee fans want Kentucky
to lose at every turn. Auburn fans want Alabama to
lose at every turn in every thing that is done.

(10:06):
Not just competition on the field or on the corridor,
in the swimming pool or on the track. No, they
want them to lose in recruiting, they want them to
lose in academics, they want them to lose in everything.
And it's the same thing with Ole Miss and Mississippi
State and you know Old Miss and LSU, and you
know Arkansas versus the world, and it's kind of Texas

(10:28):
versus the world in Texas fans versus A and M
and vice.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Versa. The same thing with Oklahoma. You'd want your rival
school to suffer.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Now, there will be people that say when they're both playing, well,
say Texas Texas, it's good for the league, And.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I do agree with that.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm just saying from the Texas fan perspective, most of
them want only the worst things for their art tribals.
But that's no different than Ohio State, Michigan, USC, UCLA.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's no different.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Maybe different in Army Navy.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, there's a respect there, but they it's still that,
you know, beat Army or beat Navy.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's that.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
That means an awful lot if you're talking about our rivalries,
and when you think about it, it also applies applies
in pro sports.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Not the same.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Well, it's it's different, but but I'm going to tell
you in the seventies, growing up in North Carolina, Washington
fans hated everything Dallas and and Cowboys fans pretty much
kind of felt the same way about Washington, except that
they looked at them more as a nuisance.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Rather than a hated rival.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
George Allen, when he was the coach in Washington in
the seventies, really fanned the flames.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Of that whole rivalry thing.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
And it's interesting talking to people today Cowboys fans who
they consider to be the big rivals. You know, a
lot of people say, well, it's the Eagles, you know,
because Eagles have had more success lately.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
So Cowboy fans hate the Eagles. Talk to Cameron Parker
about it.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
He'll tell you it's the Giants because the Giants had
success there in the two thousands when the Cowboys had Romo,
and we're going that they couldn't get past Eli Manning
and the Giants.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That makes sense, Yeah, but three years older than me.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, So it's in the it's in the in the
in the plane of all of that. So if you,
Jake were a Cowboys fan, you'd probably be saying, it's
the Eagles. I would imagine most Cowboy fans talk to
say it's the Eagles. That's the round because the Washington
thing is just died off. A lot of it has
to do with just the you know, the lack of competitiveness.

(12:55):
I will also say this to Jake. I think that
that rivalry, for good or bad or whatever, lost some
of its fire when Dan Snyder became the owner and
all those weird and gross and dumb things started happening
there and then there was the name change.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
It just became a different entity, such a distraction. Yeah,
the worst, the worst thing that could have hand this.
This is what it what it ultimately did. It became
the Washington franchise became like a completely unrecognizable foe for

(13:34):
the Cowboys. It wasn't like the Cowboys Redskins days, you know,
that day. It wasn't like that.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
My wife grew up in University Park, that's right landlocked
in the city of Dallas. She went to Highland Park
High Okay, so that's right in the middle of things.
So she grew up ostensibly a Cowboys fan for a girl,
you know, I say that that joke because she's a
huge sports fan. No, she wasn't so much about but
her dad huge Cowboys fan. He was the first guy

(14:03):
ever came across when we were dating in the early eighties.
He he was the guy that introduced me to the
whole concept of turning down your TV sound and turning
up your local play by play guys which were Burn
Lunquist and Bradsham.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Back then it was great.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
How lucky is that?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
And they used to really really trumpet that turn down
the TV sound, turn up Vernon brad then it became
Bradon Dale for you.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It was what was the guy who did it for
so long in Washington? The play by play.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Guy Larry Michaels before him, the guy, the guy was
really good for a long time.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
And I'm too young, I know. Sonny Jorgensen was on
color going on.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Sam Huff too, the guy that did it for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
This the touchdown Washington.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yes, yeah, he was iconic. He called those super Bowls.
Larry Michael became a little bit of a clown with
some of the stuff he did, and he was kind
of involved close Frank Frank Herzog a legend. Frank Herzog,
I was too young. Yeah, he was a legend and
a really nice man too. But my wife, who grew

(15:06):
up in Dallas, took pity, so to speak, in the
Washington friends to where when they went to the name
Washington football team, she actually liked them so much so
that I ordered her a long sleeve T shirt for
Washington football team. She wanted so badly for them to
keep that name. If they kept that name, she might
have completely switched her allegiance.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
No kidding. Yeah, well, that probably says more about Dallas
during her first well.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
And I've kind of proselytized Dring to becoming a Rams
fan somewhat anyway, not like with the Dodgers, where it
took in a World Series and she's died in an old
Dodger fan, you know, but she's she has more of
an interest now in the Rams than she ever did before.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
But you know, so the identity changed for Washington. Why
they did it?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, I mean everything changed with Washington, the ownership and
the team name and their competitive balance and all that.
It just changed. And until they get back and get
good again, I don't know that it'll come back. You know,
Eagles will remain the dartboard for people, for Cowboy fans.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
To point out.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'll say, if they get good at the new stadium,
back at the RFK site, which has been improved, they're
moving forward with it, so.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
They're going to build a new place where the old RFK.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Was, right, Okay, if they get good there, uh huh,
you'll probably see it come back.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, especially if the Cowboys ever get good again. Yeah.
I'm not gonna think too much about that.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'm just trying to think, well, well, it might not
be next year the first round anyway.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
All Right, we've got a lot to get to today
on the program.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
We'll do that. We'll get some of your questions. When
do you have inconceivable?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
As well?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Here on a Texan Tuesday on Sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone and where you always listen to us
for free on the iHeartRadio app and it's a tax
on Tuesday, we do hear from the immortal Stevie Rayvaughon.

(17:09):
In this case, this is cut from Double Trouble Stevie.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Rayvon a Double Trubble?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Which one are you hitting us back with a live
version of Testify? Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, someone texted Jake to remind him of the passing
of another great Texas singer songwriter, a great joe Elee.
Saw him in concert a couple of times. I saw
Joey in small venues too. We'll hear from joe E
Lee a little bit later, so we'll definitely do that.

(17:39):
We've talked to the NFL, and there's a couple of
other topics that we need to get to. One and
maybe you can find his sound bite on this. Jerry
Jones that his usual Tuesday thing this morning in Dallas,
and apparently he said something like, uh, talk about captain. Obviously,

(18:05):
a win is very very important in the NFL, and
the win is important to me, and the wind does
a lot of positive things.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I don't care when it happens. We owe it to
that mirror.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think I found part of it all.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
All right, let's let's let's hear from Jerry a little.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Bit here here Ja.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
When the time comes, but that circumstance when the time comes.
But win is very very important in the NFL, and
a win is important to me, and a win does
a lot of positive things. I don't care when it happens.
And we've got we owe it to that mirror, and

(18:50):
we owe it certainly to our fans that we want
to walk out there and be competitive. We will not
try for a draft position, we won't be looking at
anything like that. We'll be out there playing football and
we'll bring them to play. So that's a long winded
way of saying we'll play football under whatever the circumstances are.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
So uh, that's Jerry Jerry talk about because I guess
he was asked a question with the team all but
eliminated from the playoff picture, how important is a win.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
That sort of thing, and will you sit starters?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
So.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Uh by the way, nobody wants that they don't want
performance bonuses.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah yeah exactly. Uh so uh was there anything else
from Jerry? Did we have any have any more from
Jerry today?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
From his appearance, Well, he he talked about the defense
in terms of, you know, j J. McCarthy come into
this ball game struggling, right, and so when he did
not struggle against this Cowboys defense, we didn't. Jerry was
quick to give JJ some compliments, and it turns into

(20:06):
I think a little bit of a backhanded indictment on
his own defense.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Take a listen, their quarterback have a big day on
us that wasn't the plan.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Could have used more.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Pressure without a question at different times, and the result
was that we did him make some pretty significant plays
out there. Plus he played pretty well. But seein mich
we're always saying that about these quarterbacks, some of them
that haven't played as well, but when they play us,
they played better. To Kobe to so candidly, to just

(20:41):
be very fun about it, I think if we could
have gotten this defense in better shape earlier, that we
could be sitting here with some tun and winds that
would have not had us in.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
This tight spot.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Derry, is whether Matty Eberflus returns as your coordinator going
to be determined by how the team finishes over these
next three weeks.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Well, I think that should be a a big criteria
because these three games are vital to us. They're important
to us. We don't play a game that's not important
to us. It's vile to these players. They're part of

(21:23):
a team here that can get out here. And really,
as long as you've got the opportunity to have some
good things happen, he should take it because I've seen
it happen. But yes, we play over these next few weeks,
we'll be a big, big criteria because I think, really

(21:44):
we're at one of the peaks of our healthiness right now,
and so if we can step out there. There's some
question about it left tackle, but it was gaiden, But
if we can step out there and have three good
games enough, and I think that they should go in
the decision.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Like well Marcus Mariota, yeah right, uh uh So anyway,
well we'll see.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
On this.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Someone on Trayvon Diggs too, right, because remember this, Yeah,
because this was about.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
More than just health.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Correct, Shoddy said he didn't follow through on some team
objective or something like that. Translation he was later skip
practice or something.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Or not practicing well enough. Yeah, he mentioned kind of
a ramp up process. He seemed to hint that there
was at least some kind of physical component. But you
have this story where Digg says I'm good to go,
and Schottenheimer says we don't need you right now.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, we don't see it that way, right, good to go? Okay.
Jerry had no comment on them.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Here here's a few comments on all right. Shody told
us Friday he was pretty healthy. Dig spoke out for
the game, had said he was good to go. Where's
the miscommunication?

Speaker 5 (22:59):
There's no communication.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
I've never seen a player that usually wasn't going out there,
or earlier than he got out.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
There he felt like he could go. I say, I've
never seen him. No, I've seen a lot of players
say they couldn't go. But when you are rehabbing, when
you're coming back, then it falls into that world where
you go out and practice, and when you practice, you're
asked to do things the way they're going to be presented.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
To you in a game and.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Because of your I call it because of your health,
you might and your own personal way you play the game.
And he's really Diggs has a very unique way in
my mind that he contributes to a team. And you've
got to absolutely.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Be at the top of your game.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Because he will basically at times go away from the
scheme to make a great play. And when he doesn't
make that play, you can have a bad, bad play.
And so if you're not capable. And I've seen Dion senators,
I've seen Diggs make plays that others can't make. But boy,

(24:18):
you've got to be You've got to be very capable
physically of making those plays. When he is practicing, he's
not convincing the ones that make those decisions. He's not
convincing them that he's ready to make those guys of plays.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay, to track all that, Yeah, I have a one
of the coach about that I looked up to. It
was that you that I didn't realize it wasn't. Okay.
So there's Jerry weighing in on the Cowboys. A reminder,
I meant to mention this at the top of the program.

(24:55):
Greg Tepper, Editor in Chief, Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine
will join us our weekly conversation with We have two
of those remaining. We have today and then next Tuesday,
the twenty third, which is our final show before the
holiday break. And so next week, obviously we'll be reviewing

(25:18):
the state championships and previewing the bowls and things like that.
Today it'll be previewing those state championship games that happen
at the high school level, and also take a look
at the upcoming bowl games as well, and the coaching
moves and things like that that's coming up at the
three o'clock hour. Up next conceivable on a Tuesday here
on Sports RADIOAM thirteen under the Zone in the iHeartRadio app.

(25:53):
Second hour of the program here on Sports Radio AM
thirteen under the Zone, Craig Way alongside the producer Jay Kerrman.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Glad to have you alongside as well.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
How glad to the extent that I'm more than happy
to read your text on our text line. If you
want to join in the text conversation, you can do
that simply by texting the word Texas. That can be
all caps, it can be just a capital T. Just
text the word texts followed by your question or comment

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to eight one five three zero. Somebody, one of our
regulars had said, it's inconceivable. Rip Rob Reiner. Absolutely. I
know people were just absolutely stunned by that. We talked
about it yesterday on the program because the details were
starting to emerge about the homicide involving Rob Reiner and

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his wife because he was a you know, outstanding director
and actor for many, many years. In talking about how
long worn fans would feel about rooting for their Texas
teams in that, uh, we got one in Texas, I'd
have an easier time pulling for Texas Tech. Enough time

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has passed since the Crabtree catch.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Not enough time for them to stop playing it on
the video board.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, they still do. They're in love it absolutely.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I think I saw I think I saw a tweet.
I forget who it was, but it was well forty
five minutes to kick. I've seen the crab Tree catch twice.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, well, and it was a it was a big
high water moment for them. But obviously if Tech has
more success here in this college football playoff, then that
would surpass it. I think, you know, because Texas went
in number one in the country and they had a
that was playing four consecutive ranked opponents and they had

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won the first three going into that, they got way behind,
They came back, took the lead late, and then of course,
as we know, the Crabtree catch happened, and I know
a lot of funch points. Blake Gideon had an interception
in his hands and his flat dropped.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
At the play before would have won it. And of course.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It uh that loss plus the Big Twelve not upgrading
like every other Division one conference did in the country
on its tie breaking system with regard to the BCS standings.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
That knocked Texas out by I.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Think four one thousands of a point and going to
the Big Tell Championship game, they wound up going to
Fiesta Bo had a memorable game with Ohio State beat
Ohio State. It was kwant Cosby's final game, as we
point out, and he caught that touchdown pass from Colt
McCoy to win it. But yeah, it was it was heartbreak.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
That makes this year's quote unquote snub feel e liptal
small in comparison.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, there were, because they were that close to having
a real shot and playing for the national title and
all that, as somebody said, without Texas in the playoffs,
I will only root for the refs.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Okay, that makes sense, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Hey, coming up in a few minutes, we're going to
talk some football in the state of Texas with Greg Tepper,
the editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, to
talk about college football with the upcoming playoff this Saturday,
Texas A and M and Texas Tech boat. You know,
in the playoff, Tech gets by in the first round,
they're going straight to the Orange Bowl to the quarterfinals

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to take on the winner of the five versus twelve matchup,
which would appear di versity. Yeah, which would appear to
be what ole miss right, that's Oregon and Jass Oregon
and James Madison. And that's in Eugene on Saturday. In fact,

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that's the last game of the day, isn't.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
It It is. TNT got the two Group of five
games at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Now, supposedly that all changes next year. T and T
is going to have a quarter five and a semifinal
as part of the new TV deal. That happens next year,
but they do they have the two G five games
this year, so Texas Tech will await the winner of

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Oregon and James Madison in the Orange Bowl. They'll do
that Texas A and M in Miami in that seven
versus ten matchup. The winner will face Ohio State, but
they'll play at eleven o'clock in the morning this Saturday
at Kylefield College Station. Texas A and M against Miami

(30:37):
in the seven versus ten matchup.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
So we get Norman and College Station up first in
terms of.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
The Yeah, and that's Friday night is the you know,
as in like seventy two hours, yeah, or just over
seventy two hours from now.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
We'll talk about it a lot on the program, especially Thursday.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah. Yeah, you have guests lined up to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah. Adam Augburn, who covers the Sooners, will will come
on and join us to talk about that matchup quite
a bit.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, and plenty plenty to break down on that one
between Alabama and Oklahoma. So it'll be interesting to.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
See with that. Okay, some Pro football notes. Very quickly.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Successful surgery for Patrick Mahomes for that torn ACL and
l CL the lateral collateral ligament. Say that fast five times.
So he underwent successful surgery last night in Dallas to
repair the tear in his left ACL. Doctor Dan Cooper,

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the Cowboys dead team physician, did the surgery. He performed
the procedure. He also repaired the torn l CL in
mahomes left knee. According to the Chiefs, Mahomes will begin
his rehab process immediately, so that's underway. Of course, as

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we know, the Chiefs season competitively will end. When the
regular season ends, they will not be in the playoffs
for the first time. And what since twenty fourteen or
was it sixteen last time the Chiefs missed the playoffs.
They've been in it for a while. Other injury update,

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the Rams have not ruled out Devonte Adams for Thursday
Nights big showdown in Seattle against the Seahawks. He had
a hamstring injury. He's not going to practice today. Aggravated
the left hamstring injury. Sean McVay said he was optimistic
about the injury, but he doubted whether to be able
to play on the short week because I can't see

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him in action.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, that was tough to see him kind of pull
up mid route during the latter stages of that matchup
with the Lions.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yep, and Pukaku has been pretty banged up but he
had that massive game what was in nine catches one
hundred and eighty one yards I believe last week. So,
in speaking of Sean McVay, congratulations he and his wife
giving birth to Christian Alexander McVeigh. It was CMC he

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and his wife Veronica, welcome the newest member of the
family this morning, and it's on the Rams Twitter, La
Rams transactions delivered Christian Alexander McVeigh.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
It's the way they described it.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So anyway, so he was born today after the Rams
clinched to playoff birth.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
We'll see how they do on Seattle.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
The winner of that game Thursday night is going to
win the NFC West and probably is going to be
the number one seed overall.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Whose home field advantage more important for you, think the
Rams or Seattle.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
The Rams, they don't need to be going to Philadelphia
or back to Seattle or whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I think. Seattle's I think been a good road team
this year, isn't they.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
They have been really good under McDonald They've been really
good on the road.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Right, So we'll see. We'll see how that all is.
That's a big, big game.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'll go with the Rams because of the indoor factor too.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, I would. I would say it would be that.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Now, the fact that this game this Thursday in Seattle
does not bode well for really, we'll see how it
turns out, especially not having DeVante Adams. All right, up next,
we'll talk college football, high school football. It is state
championship week, but we'll talk college football as well in
the Lone Star State with the editor in chief of
Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine, Greg Tepper, here on Sports

(34:37):
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well, hello, there, it's been a long long time.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
By the way, that's how Greg Tepper is going to
open up.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
With being to do the two A Division two.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
State championship game on Thursday morning. Well, holdo, there, it's
been a long time. You know, it's it's been a
week since we had him on the program, the editor
in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine. And uh,
well we'll uh well, we'll get to the Heisman moment.
But but I am correct, right, you'll be you'll be

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pretty excited to welcome any and all viewers to the telecast.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
There, Yeah, fired up, fired up for this. What what's what's.

Speaker 9 (35:25):
Also very interesting and I don't know if you go
through this, because how.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
Many games are you going for for our friends.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Of victory seven? Don't?

Speaker 8 (35:32):
Okay, So I'm doing four and this is the this
is the most I've ever done.

Speaker 9 (35:35):
They're they're, they're they're now getting there. I think that
I've gone enough games without cursing on the air that
they trust.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Me a little bit more.

Speaker 9 (35:42):
So that's a good four games. And I've got to
tell you, I am to the point now where my
brain is so fried by staring at these teams and
just like figuring out all.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
Of the little things and talking with coaches.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
And trying to get all that intel. Like I don't
know why.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
It's one of those things like you look at my.

Speaker 9 (36:02):
Brain at this point, it's just like looking into the matrix.
Just ones and zeros and and wing backs and and
and split back zers and stuff.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
It is a it is a wild scene right now.

Speaker 9 (36:12):
But so yeah, so when the games arrive, I'll be like,
oh good, it's actually worth doing all this to myself.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, let me ask you, do you have coach zoom fatigue?

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (36:25):
Man, I have done so much. You and I all
the teams have gone and.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Done a ton of zoom calls and these coaches and
then the.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Other thing that I do because I'm sick, is I
like to talk with a coach that they that this
team beat a couple of rounds ago, because then kind
of crib off their notes and get there get like
that's how you can get good stuff like tendencies and
like uh and who who? Like who's who are the
defensive guys that you're really worried about? Like you know,

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sometimes coaches will will you know, won't be able to
necessarily self diagnose who their best offensive linement is. But
the team who just got their rear end kicked will
be able to tell you.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
And so those types of things are hubbled.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
So yeah, I've spent a lot of time on zoom
over the past forty eight hours.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Temper and I were on a zoom at eight o'clock
this morning with Brady Carney, they head coach at Munster
because we're doing the two A Division two Stay championship
tomorrow morning. And you asked him that you said, I
like to talk to coaches that.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
You've beaten and asked them about thought.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
What a glutton for punishment you hear these guys, But
you did doing that and maybe the same. I guess
also with Daniel Benecker, the head coach at Chiner, because
it is kind of interesting to hear other coaches what
they think of the programs they just played, whether they beat.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Them or lost to them.

Speaker 9 (37:43):
Yeah, you get like kind of it's supposedly it's like gossip,
you know what I mean of, Just like, hey, you
spent an entire week doing nothing but figuring out how
this team works. And so I like to ask these guys,
like my first question when I asked these coaches.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
I'm like, how do you beat these guys? What? What's
the way that you beat them? And a lot of
these guys are like, well, if I knew that you're idiot,
that I would have done it.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
What do you ask to me for?

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Yeah, exactly, I'm the wrong guy asked.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
All right, Well jump back to high school event. Let's
let's talk college football. It is, after all, playoff week
for the fighting Texas Aggies in the seven versus ten matchup,
as they'll host Miami. Meanwhile, you know, sitting back waiting
on an eventual opponent will be Texas Tech, and they're
they're waiting to see.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, it's going to be an Oregon.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
But anyway, the Oreon James Madison winner to play in
the Orange Bowl. But how about how about your thoughts
on this Texas A and m Miami matchup.

Speaker 9 (38:43):
Yeah, I think it's a really fascinating matchup.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
And I know I mentioned it.

Speaker 9 (38:46):
Whenever the initial bracket came out a couple of weeks
ago that I thought this was a really brutal draw
for the Aggies, you know, taking on a Miami team
that is going to be playing with a chip on
their shoulder. There's a lot of people talking about how
they don't deserve to.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
Be in the play off.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (39:01):
And then also if they were to get past that,
then they get a date with Ohio State, And if they're
to get past that, they get a date potentially with
a team like Georgia.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
So there's there's no rest for the weary for sure.

Speaker 9 (39:10):
What I think is going to be really interesting here
is that I think that this will be a real
test for the A and m offensive front.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (39:20):
You know, Ruben bain Off, the edge for Miami has
been absolutely outrageous.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
They have got some They've got some legit dudes, I
mean on this.

Speaker 9 (39:28):
So there there's this is this is a an NFL
Leyden uh NFL prospect laden roster with guys like campe
Scott at the cornerback spot. I mean then Carson back
the quarterback is a guy. Uh, this is gonna be
really interesting. I think one of the things that's gonna
be that's gonna be absolutely interesting to see is that
the A and M defensive front against the Miami offensive

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line is going to be the real box office matchup.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Because I think.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
That this is a very good offensive line, but we
know that that is where A and M makes their
head is up front with a little bit of havoc
with the guys they've got in the front. I think
that's that's gonna be. That's gonna be really really critical.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (40:04):
I think a lot of this come down on whether
or not and then be able to stop the run.
I think it was the team that that obviously Texas
had their way running the ball with them. Uh, you
know South Carolina before that was able to run the ball.
Can Miami run the ball? They run the ball as
in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (40:19):
I like to think they've had two weeks to figure
it out. I think that especially being at home, Uh,
it was what was going to be a wild atmosphere.
Uh in in in Aggie Land, you would think that
they would be the favorite in this one. Vegas seems
to think so, you know, three and a half point
favorites seems about rights about it more or less a
pickup game on a on a neutral site. I like
the Aggies to win the game. I think that Marcel

(40:40):
Reid has a nice bounce back game, and I think
that they've all served at home.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I wondered instantly if the Heisman Trust, people who own
and operate the Heisman Trophy ceremony, were wishing that Marcel
Reid had indeed had a good game against Tech and
would have gotten the invite, uh, you know, instead of
Diego Pavia. In light of everything Pavia had to say

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after the Heisman Trophy, only to have to walking back
yesterday too.

Speaker 9 (41:12):
Yeah, it's been uh look, Diego Pavi has had quite
quite a week.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
I would say the.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
Entire the entire uh you know, Hypen circus has been
really interesting. You know, this is a I think, an
absolutely fascinating situation here because I do think that you know,
Fernando Mendoza, uh, you know, the winner.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
And and pretty clear winner.

Speaker 9 (41:33):
You know, six unto point three first place votes is
not uh, you know, that's that's nothing to turn your
nose up at.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (41:41):
It's been a very bizarre race because I think that
that you know, we we it's kind of gone alongside
what the way the hypen usually works, which is who's
the best player on the best team.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Well, it's been uh, you know, it's been Mendoza on
on Indiana. That's a that's the number one team.

Speaker 9 (41:56):
But I do think that, you know, there were Texas
Tech fans who are upset Jacob Rodriguez an invite and
I understand that. I think he's been the best linebacker
in the nation and and certainly if you want to
talk about the most arguably you know, one of the
most impressive and remarkable units in the nation.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Uh the texta Tech defense, he's the leader of them. U.
It has been a little bit of a circus.

Speaker 9 (42:18):
I think overall, I would say the Heightsman probably doesn't
hate it, just because I think that a little bit
of the shyness has faded from it over the past
few years as far as the Heisman Trophy is concerned.
And you know, nothing's better than you know, drama and
controversy to drum up some interest. So yeah, it was
a unique situation for Diego Pavia. But I do think

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that you're right they may have wanted Marcel read there
and to uh although who knows what a male dolph
after that? Anyway, I mean be like, if you just
wouldn't have gotten the invite, we might have heard the
same thing.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
From Diego Pavia.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
It's a unique situation.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Visiting with Greg Taper, editor in chief Tape Campbell's Texas
Football magazine and part of all of the broadcast team
of Victory Plus will be calling the state championship games
this week. All right, let's let's move to the state
championship games. Before we get to the breakdown of of
of these games, which of the twelve schools.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Is the outlier?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
If there's one, you can only have one outlier, which
one is it?

Speaker 6 (43:29):
It's probably.

Speaker 9 (43:32):
The aller is probably Joaquin uh into a Division one.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
You know, a team that has been you know.

Speaker 9 (43:39):
The fishing third place in their own district, right the
upset Refeerio in the in the state semifinal. Joaquin is
probably the party crasher here. But I mean at the
same time, they've been almost unstoppable because the slot Ta,
as we are fond of saying, is the devil.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, and and Uh, you and I were been been
joking about then the last three weeks going. Surely their
rabbit's foot has to have been rubbed there by now,
surely they have nothing left. And yet they keep finding
ways to win. And I guess what the most impressive

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one is knocking out Refeio.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
Well, and the way that that game happened is absolutely
remarkable because they're in, you know, in the fourth quarter,
Referio scores to take a two score lead. The next
time Refeerio has the ball, they are down by two scores.
Because what happened is Joaquin goes down and scores, recovers,
an on side kick goes down and scores, recovers, a

(44:40):
month kick goes down and scores and gets a two
point conversion to go up by nine points, and suddenly
everything has gone has gone haywire for the number one
team in the state. It was a remarkable like this,
This is what I love about that game, Hamilton and
Uh and Joaquin, even though it is the exact opposite
of a brand name matchup.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
We got play of brandname matchups.

Speaker 9 (45:01):
This one, ain't it is that You've got two teams
that I think feel like they rightly believe they.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
Are teams of destiny. Rightfully believe. Is like, oh yeah,
this is it's supposed to be us this year. It's
supposed to be our year.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
And that's why I think it's gonna make for Wednesday
night a real fun kickoff.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
All right, now, let's let's go to the breakdown of
each of these matchups. The first game tomorrow morning at
eleven o'clock and Granger Hunters will join me for that
one is the six man game one A Division one
Gordon Rankin Going's go. Gordon is going for a three
peat playing Rankin who and I guess you could make

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a case a little bit for them being a bit
of an outsider, couldn't you getting into this deal?

Speaker 6 (45:45):
I would get they have been. They have relished the
underdog role.

Speaker 9 (45:49):
I think they were underdogged in their first round matchup
against Gordon County. I think they are underdogs in their
regional final against white Face. I think they were underdogs
last or I guess ten days ago in their States
final win over Water Valley and they have Relish in
that underdog role, but this feels like a different animal.
Gordon has been absolutely outrageous. I want to give you

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a statistic that absolutely blew my mind this week Striker
Reed the Air Force commit for Gordon. Striker Reed has
touched the ball fifty nine times this season and has
scored thirty touchdowns, which means that he has been tackled
fewer times than he's scored.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
He's also made seventy three tackles on defense with a
couple of sacks and two picks.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
As for the number one team of number one defense
in all of six man football, yeah, I am installing
Gordon as a clear favorite.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
It's interesting for folks who don't know about this Gordon
team that's won back to back state titles. They're unbeaten,
They're thirteen to zero. It's more than just that, more
in the fact that they pitched four consecutive shutouts at
one point. It's more than the fact that every game
they have played except one has been decided by the

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forty five point mercy rule, which, for those of you
who don't know and six man football, if you're up
by forty five or more at a halftime or any
point in the second half, the game is over. The
one game they didn't was because for one of something
better to do, they played an eleven man game right
over here to the east, was at Thorndale, and they
won that one by thirty three points.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I mean that.

Speaker 9 (47:32):
And by the way, yeah, by way, that's a Thorndale
team that won a playoff game this year. Yeah, okay,
so that's not some little sisters of the poorer team, Like,
they're pretty good and Gordon, no, Gordon. There's a chance
to talk with folks around the six man community, like
if if tomorrow morning goes the way that we think
it might, then the conversation's going to turn to their

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place in six man football history.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, and then and then one other thing we should
point out. Oh, by the way, every game was played
away from home because their stadium and athletic facilities were
wiped out by a tornado back in May.

Speaker 9 (48:07):
Yeah, it's they're.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
An amazing team.

Speaker 9 (48:10):
It's an amazing team, and and you guys should certainly
tune in to watch it.

Speaker 8 (48:15):
But I would certainly.

Speaker 9 (48:15):
Tune into the first half because I'm not certain there
will be a second.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, that's a good point there, all right, What about
the second one? You have another defending state champion and
Jaydon and they're playing a perennial power in Richland's Springs.
It's a different kind of Richland Springs team, isn't even
though the computer is only expecting the jay Birds to
win this by five points. But might it be a
bit more competitive?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:40):
I think there's much.

Speaker 9 (48:41):
This is a much much more competitive game than the
first one because of both these defenses. Defenses have been
absolutely outrageous.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
James given up eleven points a game in six man.

Speaker 9 (48:51):
Football, That's crazy. They have been spectacular. What I love
about this Richland Springs team is that they have a
variety of different guys.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
That can beat you.

Speaker 9 (49:00):
Guys like Cohen Etheridge, guys like Billy Perry. They have
got a lot of guys that they can get the
ball to and so they're very multiple h.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
This is I think. I think this is gonna be
a good defensive.

Speaker 9 (49:11):
Matchup as far as six man football games are concerned.
The other thing is, as far as I can tell,
this is their first ever meeting, which makes this really
interesting because either are two of the more decorated programs
in six man football history, which should make for a
really fun afternoon slate.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
All right, then let's go to the evening contest in
two A Division one. Now you're working this one, right,
this is one of the four you have.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
No, you're not on the on the two anyway.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Okay, I'm not on it either, but this this should
be an awful lot of fun. Hamilton and Joaquin to
first time final. We were just talking about Joaquin doubt
to met your own peril and Hamilton Hamilton coming coming.
Of course they had a great run last year, but
now in the final for the first time ever.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Two first time state finalists.

Speaker 9 (50:02):
I mean, Hamilton's been playing football since nineteen fourteen, so.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
Like this isn't like? Oh, Richmond Randalls in their.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
First state championhip.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
Now they've been playing for one hundred and eleven years
and Ryan Marwitz and company have gotten them into a
state championship game. I love their running back Houlston Hale.
He missed the semi final last year because he lacerated
his kidney in the regional final, and so now he's
back and running.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
With a vengeance.

Speaker 9 (50:26):
He's been a great story going up against Joaquin, which again,
the slot team is the devil and the way they
run it with Cooper Bragg, Jacob Metlin, Marion Wilson, they
got a lot of different ways to beat you. And
as good as this Hamilton defense has been, they have
not seen the slot team and so that is going
to be the real question here is can that outstanding

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Hamilton defense diagnose and slow down the slot team.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Well, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
The two A D two game that we're working is
Munster and Shiner Thursday morning rematch from last through State championship,
which was a heck of a ballgame in thirty six
twenty nine game. I got the vibe from you, you're
expecting a different result this time around.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Monster won last year's game.

Speaker 9 (51:10):
Yeah, I think that this is another tight game to
really good defense is Shiners defense is outrageous.

Speaker 6 (51:16):
I mean they just got done keeping the all time
leading rusher.

Speaker 9 (51:20):
In Texas high school football history in Kagan Ash out
of the end zone in his final game.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
I mean that's heavy stuff.

Speaker 9 (51:26):
I also love what they've done in the quarterback spot
where they've moved their receiver kind of because they had
to because of an injury. They move receiver Jarvis Williams
over too quarterback, and he has given them another element in.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
That split bag geer.

Speaker 9 (51:38):
Munster is a team that of course the state champs,
and they will have the single most dynamic player of
this game case and Carney is worth the price of admission.
This kid is superman out there. He is going to
be a lot of fun and this is also an
outstanding monster defense. I'm expecting a really fun ball game.
I think Shiner might be your favorite in this one,
but I think we're going to have a really fun

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kickoff Thursday.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Well, you know what Munster is working for.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
They have that that triple crown thing where you have
the head coach, uh, you have his son as the
starting quarterback and the daughter is the head cheerleader.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
That's that's gonna be hard to overcome. The Shiner.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's a tough that's a tough combo, all right.
And then we get to the three A games. Now
Grandview we've seen in recent years, but not over the
past two to three four years because of that, So
I think they're a bit of a surprise.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yoakam has just been on a role.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
In the machine and they they they they really proved
that in the simifinal win of Orlando last week.

Speaker 9 (52:38):
I'm on this game with Ted Emrick. I'm really excited
about this grandview.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
You're right, I mean they have figured it out. Uh.
They they're throwing them all.

Speaker 9 (52:47):
They got another quarterback back there. His name is Peanut Landers.
He did a lot of fun to watch. And they
got a lot of weapons on the outside, like Blue Hubbard,
like like like Cason Sanders. They've got a lot of
different weapons on the outside. The defense is gonna be
tested though, against a explosive yoakam team with a ton
of dudes, including the S and U s.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
I Xager Burnett.

Speaker 9 (53:07):
They have a freshman named JaMarcus Robinson that you need
to keep your eye on.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
This guy is a burner and he is going to
be able.

Speaker 9 (53:15):
He is the guy who can take a two yards
touch and turn into a seventy yard touchdown. That's gonna
be a fun matchup that I think could get could
get up and down because they are two pretty high
powered offenses.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Uh the four, uh the three A D two game
and I have that one on Thursday night. Uh, and
you and I were talking might be one of the
better matchups Wall which was finally able to break knock
down the wall, get past Gunner, and deny them a
fourth straight state title opportunity against a perennial power in Newton.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
But but one.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Thing I gotta say about Newton obviously they're they're very explosive.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Uh They're they're a lot of fun to watch. They
have Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
In talking about Newton, they they have you would say,
one of those explosive offensive weapons, and more than just
an explosive offensive weapon. They have a real versatile guy
in kJ Porter, but they have a freshman at quarterback

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in Isaiah Foster who has stunned people. And I had
to ask Drew Johnson said did you expect this? And
he said, well, he was really good in middle school. So,
and they're playing a wall team that's probably not faster,
but they're bigger than Newton, so it's kind of a

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size versus s.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Fent thing here.

Speaker 9 (54:43):
This to me is the game that if you're a
neutral and you just want a great small school game,
this is the one you want Thursday night. I think
this is box office uff. You're exactly right. Newton is
a wrecking machine right now. In the ray they won,
the way they run the ball with kJ Por and
with with Deligrick Samuel. They are fast, they are they

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are elusive and then you're right. They unleash their their
quarterback Isiah Foster last week and there they went over
East Bird hard.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
But they will have to get past Wall.

Speaker 9 (55:13):
Who got that big started win over the throwning three
times Defenning State champ gunner Land in York is a
four thousand yard passer. I mean, this kid is unbelievable.
That tons of weapons like Reid Robertson. And by the way,
their defense has been very good as well.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
Both the defense have been very good.

Speaker 9 (55:28):
This is this is whereas three eight Division one. The
way I'll categorize it as these are the teams that
have survived and advanced.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
These are the teams that have survived the tournaments.

Speaker 9 (55:37):
This is, in my opinion, very clearly the two best
teams in three A Division two. And it's gonna be
a whale of a game Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Okay, if that isn't the best game of the of
the week, I've got two others in mine and one
of those may well be the four A D one game.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Steven Bill Kilgore, I'm also.

Speaker 9 (55:56):
On this one I'm so fired up about this. This
is let me tell you something. If you like physical football,
if you like two teams that are going to take
higher irons to each other for forty eight minutes, this
is the ballgame for you. This is to take your
eye off the ball type game because these two fronts
are huge and menacing and just physical and mean and nasty,

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and it's going to be a lot of fun. And oh,
by the way, you got outstanding playmakers like the superstar
freshman receiver for Stevenville, Cayden Monk, who has really emerged
on the scene to be a true weapon, a true
deep threat for this outstanding Stevenville offense. And then you've
got la Heillian Graves, the Texas State comment for Kilgore,
who is electrifying on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 6 (56:42):
This is going to be a fun.

Speaker 8 (56:43):
Fun, fun matchup and again one.

Speaker 9 (56:45):
Of those take your eye off the ball type type
games because both of these offensive and defensive lines are
going to.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Get after it.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
In four AD two it's been a great story for
west Orn Stark who could who could tep have lost
their by district game to Robinson. It was that competit
it is and now here they are in the final.
But it's kind of like you're talking about. It's a
different thing almost like with Gordon, if you were to
pick the sure fire winner, maybe it's Gordon in their

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game if but Carthage is probably not right far behind it.

Speaker 9 (57:18):
I think you're exactly right. I think Carthage is a
clear favorite in this game. The star power heer is outrageous,
whether it's kJ Edwards or Quebec or Jet Surrat or
Benny Smith or Junior Hendy.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
I mean, they're loaded. I mean. And the other thing
is that for those.

Speaker 9 (57:33):
Who don't know, Carthage head coach Scott Surratt has been
to ten state championship games and he is ten and zero.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
And by the way, a lot of those games.

Speaker 9 (57:41):
Only one of those games has been a one score
game back in like I think there's second one. They
beat Graham by one point thirteen to twelve.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
Other than that, a little bit a lot of blowouts.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
Now, I will say this, watch this game.

Speaker 9 (57:53):
If one to watch the machine, it's fun to watch.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
The Carthage machine.

Speaker 9 (57:56):
But also if you've never seen Kelvy Jefferson, the running
back for West Orange Stark, this kid is unbelievable. Okay,
he is five to three at one hundred and fifty
five pounds. He is a water bugs, but he is
strong as an ox and he is so.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
Quick you cannot tackle him. Like, you can't tackle him.
They like they cracked the code. He has a lot
of fun.

Speaker 9 (58:16):
He might be the player I'm most excited to watch,
even though I think that the Mustangs are an underdog.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Hit five a D one Frisco Loan Star, which was
able to, you know, break through the barrier and shock
Alito last week and then he got Smith's in Valley.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
All r is there defending state champions.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
You talked to Larry Hill like we did last night,
and it's kind of you, you know, Larry Hill is
just kind of an all shucks. We just kind of
gather up for guys and get on after it and
do that. It's it's it's so funny. Listen him and
the guy that's a live wire and jeff Rayburn, the
head coach at lone Star.

Speaker 9 (58:49):
This is a great coaching matchup because of course you've
got the legend Larry Hill, and you've also got a
guy who I think is now in a position where
obviously he doesn't have like the three hundred wins. But
Jeff Rabern has been a terrific coach for more than
a decade, and the one thing missing from his resume
is a state championship. He can get that year in
a game that will be entirely dictated by what pace

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this game is played at, because I don't think from
a pace perspective, you could draw two more polar opposite teams.
You have Smiston Valley, who is methodical.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
They're they're like a Bond villain.

Speaker 9 (59:21):
You know what I mean, where they're just like gonna
slowly take you apart and stuff like that. Meanwhile, you've
got you got lone star who wants to.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
Go, go, go, go, go, go go.

Speaker 9 (59:30):
We want to see how many times we can get
the ball. Whoever dictates the pace in.

Speaker 8 (59:34):
That game is gonna win.

Speaker 6 (59:35):
And I don't know how it's gonna go, but it's
gonna be a fascinating watch.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Five a D two is a rematch Richmond Randall's South
o Cliff random kind of dominated Sock in the second
half last year.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I got a feeling this thing is gonna be a
lot closer.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
It's gonna be a great game. South o'cliff is loaded defensively,
that death row defense, and they're also healthy. Jamarian Phillips,
their star linebacker, is back and is an absolute wrecking
machine going up against this is theumber one scoring defense
in the state in five day Division two in South
Olk Club against the number one scoring offense in the
state in Randall led by the remarkable, sensational, unbelievable Landon

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Williams callous, this guy who might be the best running
back in America at any level, at at any high
school level. This guy is unbelievable. Can South Oakliff bottle
him up? That is that has been good on good
match up there, and that's that's worth the price.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Of admission, no doubt, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
And then finally the six A games uh Duncanville North Shore.
Need we say more?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
It's Roman numeral six in nine years between these two Uh,
I like, I.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Don't even know what to say at this point.

Speaker 9 (01:00:39):
Uh, there's no sea Here's the thing, there's no secrets
between these two programs anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:00:43):
But what I want to see is can Duncanville, which
is found a way to manufacture offense by getting the
ball to to as and THEUSS Uh and and to
their their variety of different weapons. Can they find a
way pass what has been a pretty good north Shore defense?
And can that ferocious defense led by kJ Ford find
a way to make Caleb Maryland the superstar corback for Norshill?

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Can they make him uncomfortable? But I mean it's north Shore, Duncans.
If I have to talk you into it, then you
just you're not into high school football.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Same could be said for the last game, which I
think could wind up being if not Stevenville Kilgore, if
not Well Newton, then De Sota and King, which the
computer says is a Pickham, could be the best. For
the record, we played Claude Mathis's rant yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
He was not ranting at you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
That was Professor Diggs. Wasn't up there? Who met who
set end of an era?

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
Was? It was?

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
It wasn't me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
For once?

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
I'm innocent here.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Yeah, this is done.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I started saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
What we're witnessing, whether Desoda wins or not, is I
think the greatest multiple week playoff cumulative performance by running back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
And what Sarad Baker has done. What fifteen hundred rushing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Yards in five playoff games, averaging over three hundred yards
per game.

Speaker 9 (01:02:02):
He's the most dangerous man in Texas played and simple.
He's just he's unstoppable right now, and and and that's
the challenge for the c King defense, which has been
pretty good.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 9 (01:02:12):
If you like home runs, if you like going back
and forth in big plays, this is the game for you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
Because if you've maybe.

Speaker 9 (01:02:18):
You've seen the highlights of De Soto, you know what
they've got with Sarrob Baker and the five star wide
receiver movie feaster.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
But if you haven't seen ce King, a first.

Speaker 9 (01:02:25):
Time state finalist, They've got Rice Signing and Dion sims
as an absolute burner. Their quarterack timp positive in Fantaska,
and they have a sophomore named Dylan Mitchell who last
year as a freshman, finished fourth in the in the
one hundred and six A. This kid is a lightning
rod and he's going to be a lot of fun
on us. I think I think we've got a great
way to close out the state championships.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
No doubt about it. Uh tep, I appreciate it. I'll
see you on the property to tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
H you you won't even have a choice. I will
see you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
There right thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
That's Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football
Man magazine. There's your preview of all those state championship games.
We'll be back to wrap up hour number two. We
have more to come here on thirteen under the Zone.
Third and final hour of the program here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred Zone on this Tuesday afternoon. Craig

(01:03:17):
Way alongside the producer Jay Herman, as always glad to
have you alongside as well. In the first couple hours
of the program, we talked a lot of football, pro football,
college football, men's and women's basketball. Speaking of women's basketball,
we are going to hear from Vick Shaeffer coming up

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in this hour of the program, so we'll hear from
the long Worn's head coach. I want to jump back
to college football for a moment. Please take this, accept this.
I hope you will in the spirit in which it
is intended, this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Being the holiday spiritual time of year, right.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I was gonna say the holiday spirit and this means
something bad's coming.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
No, No, I guess the best way to do this
is to have a little bit of my own self
examination on this thing. I'd like to say that I

(01:04:28):
more than a lot of people will be willing to
suffer fools. I'm I'm and what I'm about to say
here is that the people who did this are not fools.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
My point is that something that appeared.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
To be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
As clear as broad daylight certainly clearer than the day
we've had to David Alo murky gray, gloomy, cloudy sky.
So he's gonna clear up by the end of the week,
by the way, and and and as we draw closer
to Christmas, I think when we hit eighty degrees sometime
next week.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
But I digress.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Like I said, I like to think that, you know
that I can just kind of in a good humor,
kind of roll my eyes about something and not try
to overthink it or let it bother me too much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
And I am going to take the same approach here. However,
I have to say that I'm just I'm a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
You might say, knocked off balance by the flood of
reports in the last eighteen to twenty four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Arch Manning is returning.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Here's a headline, Texas quarterback Arch Manning, We'll return to
school for twenty twenty six season. I've seen other headlines
that say Arch Manning gives final verdict on decision for
NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
You talk about clickbait off of that, and I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Reports got to do what they've got to do for
the agencies they work because probably their bosses are going
to say.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
To them, hey, we got to get an update on Arch.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
We got to go to a coming back He he
definitely has, he said he coming back, Is he definitely
coming back?

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
All this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
So, like, here's one report, and I like Andrey Addison's
work on ESPN. I do, I follow it pretty closely,
but I'm sure that her editors told her, hey, we
gotta have an Arch Banning updated with new because because
somebody you know, tweeted out that he's going to come back.
So her headline was Texas quarterback Arch Manning will return

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to school to play in twenty twenty six, finally putting
to rest questions about his future beyond.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
This season, questions from who ifro you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Well, it says in a yeah right In a text
message to ESPN's Dave Wilson on Monday night, are Arch's dad,
Cooper Manning, said Arch is playing football Texas next year.
Texas officials told ESPN the full expectation was that Manning
would be back next season, even though Manning could have
declared for the NFL Draft as a red shirt sophomore.

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At a media in Orlando as part of the Cheese
at Citrus Bowl, Texas coach Steve Sarkison said Manning would
benefit from one more year in college, and he went
on and said, he's a young man who's got better
as the season's gone on, and not only physically but
mentally maturity wise. I would think he's going to want
another year of that growth to put himself in position
for hopefully a long career in the NFL. And he's

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got some unfinished business of what he came here to
do and what he came here to accomplish. We had
a really good football season, We left some meat on
the bone with an opportunity to be SEC champs, National champs,
and so ultimately for him, I think the competitor in
him is going to say, man I sure would like
another crack at trying to do those things. The only

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reason I chuckled about this deal is anybody that that
has covered the program regularly this season.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Should have been able to glean that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
That's that's one of those deals like for example, and
I'm not picking on Andrea, but like her lead says
blah blah blah blah blah, finally putting to rest questions
about his future beyond the season.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
It makes you want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
And in other news, the sky is blue, grass is green,
and water is wet. Yes, it was that obvious for
those of you, you know whatever on the text line.
So I don't know, I don't know. That was that
it was obvious he had dropped hints throughout the course
of the year that he needed time to develop Sark

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had done likewise. So that's why I'd kind of chuckle
and roll my eyes a little bit. But and the
only reason I do it to that Even to that extent,
I understand that agencies like whatever, ESPN or the Athletic,
SI dot com. I read a lot of these every

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day and they are probably all charged with the responsibility
asked to make sure they stay on top of that
because you don't want you know, ESPN doesn't want the
Athletic one arch banding says an exclusive thing. He's going
to the NFL Draft. That's they're hedging their bets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
So I get that. I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Those folks who were around the program throughout the course
of the season. I guarantee you are not surprised by
that announcement in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
This reminds me of one story that I came across
when I was working with the Washington Capitals last season. Yes,
a story from Capitol's reporters work. I very much enjoy
about the case for the Veznat Trophy for Charlie Lindgren,
Capitol's goal that's the award given to the best goalie
in the NHL each season. And in the in the lead,

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the reporter wrote, well that you know, the voters even
even gave him some recognition. This reporter was the only
person who voted for So the reporter cast the vote
for Lyndren and then wrote the story about Lendra getting votes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
That reminds you of something. There's a reporter up in Dallas.
He actually did this on one of the local TV
said that this has been years ago that he was like,
they went to him about a story about something. This
this is how old the story, this, This is how
long ago this was. It was about Tony dor Set
when he was running back for the Cowboys. So that
was in the the eighties, you know, seventies into the eighties,

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and he's blah blah blah or he's like anchoring a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Tony dor Set has given a lot of thought about
what his future looks like. I filed this report.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
The report of him doing a stand up outside Valley
Ranch and talking about and talking about Tony Dorris sad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
So anyway, it's like it's a little bit like John
Green on those crash course videos.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Hi Me from the Future. Yeah, yeah, exactly, So that
that was really a Captain Obvious type story and moment. Now,
I we'll tell you this And here's another piece that
Andrea Addison did yesterday. Again, this is something that sark

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said in the news conference.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Prior two. I guess the A and M game. I
guess it was where it was after the A and
M game, after the win of her A and M.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
And her story is entitled Steve Sarkasian with a with
a colon marker. Then it says Texas to honor Ohio
State and Michigan Games. He said that three weeks ago
in the news conference that all the world could see.
We aired it live here on thirteen under the Zone.
We brought to the highlight moment of that where he
said when he was asked, if you don't get into

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the playoff, that's how old this was. It was before
the final playoff field was released the rankings. If you
don't get into the playoff, will will you think twice
about scheduling the difficult non conference games? And at the
time he said, we're going to honor the Ohio State

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game next year twenty twenty six. That back into the contract,
same thing with the Michigan back into the contract in
twenty twenty seven. And by the way, that makes all
the sense in the world because those are home games.
They already made the road trips up to ann Arborn Columbus,
so it made all the sense in the world for

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them to be able to get those games at home.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Good for the fans, potentially, good for the team.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Absolutely, And then he followed up by saying beyond that,
I don't know, he said, We've got Notre Dame on
the schedule other so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
We'll have to take a look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Well, well, we don't know if he's involved in this
Notre Dame freeze out business.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Well, yeah, exactly, all right, So Andreas story said Texas
coach Steve Sarkishan said Monday that was yesterday. The Longhorns
would honor the return non conference games with Ohio State
in twenty twenty six in Michigan in twenty twenty seven,
but would but would reconsider its non conference scheduling philosophy

(01:13:35):
beyond that based on College Football Playoff Selection criteria. That's
pretty much what he said three weeks ago, but anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
It said.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
During a media availability as part of the Cheese at
Citrus Bowl, Sarkishan was asked about his ninety three team
being left out of the CFP this season. After Texas
beat Texas A and M twenty seven to seventeen to
end the regular season, Sarkisian lobbied for his team to
make it into the twelve team field asn't that large,
He said, in part, the Long Run should not be
penalized for playing Ohio State to open the season.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
The Long Wrun's lost fourteen to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Sarkejian said Monday the committee needed to adhere to the
criteria it had laid out, especially as it related to
strength of schedule. These are all things he's been saying
for the past few weeks that we aired live in
all this, but it's being presented is if it's a
brand new story simply because he was asked about it
in a press conference yestorday, and he's going to repeat

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his view on that. The quote, you look at the
principles of the CFP the first bullet point of strength
of schedule. We need to honor the criteria, he said
all this, if we can lay the foundation for that,
then that will directly impact what we do moving forward.
This year, we didn't feel like they followed through with
what the principles of the CPP were. That's why we

(01:14:51):
fought for our case. And I don't feel bad about
fighting for our case. If we're not going to value
these are almost word for word what he said, by
the way, and he said it in the post game
with us after the win of O A and M.
If we're not going to value strength of schedule, that's
surely going to adjust what we do moving forward in
our non conference scheduling. He was asked about that in

(01:15:11):
his press conference after the win of our A and M.
We're going to nine SEC conference games, so I think
we're going to play a tenth game. So to think
that we're going to play a tenth game against an
Ohio State and Michigan and who knows else down the road.
I hope we get credit for that. If not, then
we really need to look after the twenty seven season.

(01:15:34):
So he said, we've got a two year snapshot now
coming up with what the committee's really looking at. What
do they value. If it's just records, then everyone's going
to race to the best record. If it's quality football
teams and who are the best football teams regardless of
what your record says you are, then that's going to
change some things. So we'll see how it goes. Those

(01:15:55):
are almost word for word the exact things he said.
You know, he said, what are they going to what
are they going to honor? What are they taking a
close look at here?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
How are that? What we said it. I gave him
the floor. It's his show. He can take the floor
on area once. But I mean when we did.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Long Worn Weekly, I wanted to give him the opportunity
to stake that case, and he did so in about
a ten minute statement. It was conversation, wasn't rant, It
was conversational, and he discussed it and he said, this
is about looking at the criteria. Does the criteria change,
We'll change with it if we need to. But if

(01:16:33):
you're going to say it's about strength to schedule, then
you need to honor it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
And that was his point. Now the other side, folks say.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
We shouldn't lose to Florida, and then he said, you mean,
like how Notre Dame lost at home the Northern Illinois
last year and still got him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
So there's you know, there's a lot of different ways
to look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Yeah, so Alabama lost to Flora escape still got in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yep. So point being that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Sometimes things are presented as breaking news and it's not
really breaking. It might be some news, but not necessarily
breaking news.

Speaker 6 (01:17:16):
Oh I got this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Let's see, way colon, I'm calling the state championships this week.
Yeah right, oh wait, that's news.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah right, developing story right yeah, okay, all right, So anyway,
got that off my chest. Tried to do it in
a nice and civil manner. It is, but it is
kind of weird that that national. And again I understand
when you're not down here covering a team every day
and you're at a media availably for a bowl game
and somebody asked the question, he answer, it's going to

(01:17:44):
sound kind of fresh and new to you, when in reality,
all of us down here in the Greater Austin area
heard him saying in almost these exact same words three
weeks ago. But that's okay, it's reiteration for the national audience.
Up next, it's being the guys who can talk. We'll
hear from Vic Shaeffer when Texas is when we continue
about his basketball team and the game they have tomorrow

(01:18:07):
night and how his team is playing. When we continue
on thirteen under the Zone in the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
App when she Knows the cars.

Speaker 9 (01:18:21):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Yeah, So on a Texan Tuesday, as I mentioned, you
have to hear from the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
King in the four o'clock hour, George straight this particular offering,
your offering to folks.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
The Cowboy Rides Away.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Absolutely one of his tours I think was entitled The
Cowboy Rides Again or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
I think it was one of his tours, The Cowboy Ride,
the Cowboys Last Ride, Penultimate tour.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Yeah right, And this is it's kind of a roll over,
a penultimate thing for him.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
He ended the show with this when I saw him
in Austin City limits. Okay, makes sense as a set closer.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Absolutely, all right, let's hear from Texas women's head coach
Vic Schaeffer.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
The team is twelve. They're number two in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Madison Booker was named National Player of the Week with
her triple double down in the Valley last Wednesday, followed
up by twenty seven points and eight boards in that
blowout win and Fort Worth on Sunday over Baylor or
a harmon top eight hundred career assist. She has a
thirty four to one assist the turnover ratio the last

(01:19:22):
three games is that good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
We'll let Vic talk about it a little bit. First
of all, his opening thoughts on.

Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
This great day to be a Longhorn. Just got out
of practice and get ready for another game tomorrow night.
I guess it's our last home game before we break
for Christmas. So but really, again, looking back, we just

(01:19:53):
watched film of our game on Sunday, and some of
the good, the bad, and the ugly that really proud
of our kids. Thought they played awfully hard. Certainly, we
have a ton of things we can get better at,
but I just thought we really played hard and played
well on Sunday afternoon against a really, you know, really

(01:20:15):
good team, well coached and just thought our kids were
locked in uh and played really really hard, and so
I'm really proud of them.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
I think they're getting better.

Speaker 7 (01:20:28):
I think they're they're having fun, they're really enjoying themselves.
They're taking pride in the things they need to be
doing that with. They enjoy playing with each other. They're
sharing the ball. We're not turning the ball over and
we're turning people over and that's a good recipe for success.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
So just really really proud of them.

Speaker 7 (01:20:55):
Again, it's the old It's what I've always said, when
the game's over, regardless of the winter or the loss,
if I know, we played our guts out and I'm good.
And I felt like I felt like we played our
heart out on Sunday. They were they were really special.
So on to the next one. Glad we get to

(01:21:16):
play at home. Wish it wasn't so late at night,
eight o'clock tip tomorrow night, but that's for SEC Network,
and UH, gonna play a really good Northwestern State team.
They've got a really, really good player and we're gonna
have to really be cognizant of she is really dynamic
and really special, and so we're gonna have to be

(01:21:39):
really focused uh on on them and dealing with them.
You know, kind of a big guard can play three
and four just again, can be a kind of a
matchup problem if we're not careful, and uh so, we'll
we'll have to play well.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Me.

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
Anytime you guard somebody that's averaging twenty one points a game,
that's that gets your attention, right, So I don't care
who you're playing, and she's got our attention.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Vic obviously a very happy guy with injured players coming back,
being able to get them back on the floor, and
with these players returning soon. Has he put much thought
into how he's going to deploy all of these players
and will he have that ten player rotation there for
SEC games?

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Yeah, that's the game plan.

Speaker 7 (01:22:34):
It's we're gonna have to Ashton back tonight, I mean
tomorrow night. Brie is close. I don't know we'll have
her tomorrow, but she's close. I'd love to have her
back for the weekend. Crump Crump will be five weeks

(01:22:54):
on the twenty ninth, and she's looking good.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
She's coming along.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
It's been three weeks yesterday, but everything's looking really good
with her. I would love to get her back for
that twenty eight game after Christmas and just get a
few minutes under her belt and try to knock some
of the rust off and beat down the cobweb. So

(01:23:23):
but yeah, we're getting close. And we had Ashton Andbree
today in practice. Man, That's why I'm a little bit
smiley today. It's nice to have those two back in it.
And then to see a Lee over there on the
side doing what she's doing with rehab, it warms my heart.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Man, I'm finally getting my team back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
So as well as the Long Oranges are playing right now,
does he have to kind of get him to tap
the brakes a little bit on how good they might
think they are? The answer might surprise you a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
You know, this team's pretty good right now.

Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Roger about staying humble and hungry, I mean, we're all
kidding ourselves if we don't realize people are walking around
patting them on the back, and I mean even the
TV commentators not Sunday, but before that, if talked to
me about you know that message, and you know, I

(01:24:25):
mean we've won some games. Yeah, we've beaten some really
good teams, but like Tyler said, we're only a third
of the way through our schedule. So we got a
bunch of other good teams waiting for us right now,
and you know, we've got to continue to just play
the way we're playing. You know, I was really cramming

(01:24:47):
for the Baylor game like I did used to do
when I was in college, night before night before, you know, and.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
You know, I caught myself making.

Speaker 7 (01:25:00):
Note note page after notepage after notepage. I mean it
just you can go through here. I've got like eight
pages full of notes and listening listening to my preacher
Sunday morning because we didn't have shoot around, and it

(01:25:21):
just hit me, you don't need to overthink winning. You
don't need to overcomplicate winning and what we do and
how we do it. It's been pretty good for us,
and our kids are really comfortable with that, and so

(01:25:43):
I think kids can feed off of that too. They
feed off the confidence that I have in them. And
you know, our preparation is always so good. My staff
is so good with scouts and the defensive piece as
far as how we guard somebody. But I'm able to

(01:26:07):
really focus on some things like, Okay, this is what
they're running, this is what our scout team's running.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
This is how we're going to guard it, and then it.

Speaker 7 (01:26:17):
Also allows me to really focus on our offensive package.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
I'm you know, I.

Speaker 7 (01:26:24):
Think one of the things that I've really gotten from
Sark is I used to go three plays deep. Now
I'm first five plays of a game. I've got them scripted,
and I might go six or seven, but I don't
give the team more than.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Three to five. And so I think, you know, when
you go through that.

Speaker 7 (01:26:50):
In some of these games we've been in, we have
really executed some great stuff and we've got a big
We've got a really big package for this time of year.
Let's see if I can find my play card.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
We've got a lot going on, and.

Speaker 7 (01:27:10):
So again, it's just but that's what happens when you
have a fifth year senior at point guard. You got
a senior and a junior at the poet. Even though
my starting five right now is brand she's a newbie.
I mean, we basically have three new starters. Rory and
Book are the only returning starters. But Jordan played twenty

(01:27:32):
something minutes a game, and that kid's is as cerebral
as any kid I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
She's so smart and h.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
But we've been able to incorporate some other kids in
pretty quick.

Speaker 7 (01:27:44):
But give my team credit to they help them understand
and they talk them through some things sometimes on how
we want to run things, the tempo that we want
to run it at.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
So my team is really good at that.

Speaker 7 (01:27:59):
So Booker and Jordan two really smart basketball players. Rory
Harmon really smart basketball player. And so those three and
then those are the three guards right that have played
the bulk of the minutes. And so that's a great
place to start a basketball team, y'all when you've got
three guards like those three.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Well, one player who has definitely benefited from having the
very effective Madison Booker and Rory Harmon is Jordan Lee
and how she's scoring over sixteen points per game and
is a three point threat. And Vic was asked about
Lee's impact on other players getting opportunities in the half
court offense night and day.

Speaker 7 (01:28:45):
I mean, it's you've heard me say this, Mark. It's
a lot of teams have one defender out there that
can guard. Some teams have two really good perimeter defenders.
Not many have three, and you got to bring three
when you play us. You know, Jordan has scored nineteen

(01:29:07):
twenty two, she's had some big games for us and
in some big games, big games, in big games, and
so it just really, you know, who's having the most
fun his Book, Like she loves playing with those two.
She was playing with her whole team, because everybody on

(01:29:28):
the floor, you better guard them. And you know, Book
enjoys the past as much as the shot. Again, y'all
heard me say this. I have to get on her
sometimes because she's turning down shots. But she just that unselfish,
you know, that humble.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
Of a kid. And but she you know Rory's out there.

Speaker 7 (01:29:51):
She realizes, Man, I got a bunch of people that
can finish, that can make shots. I mean that assists record.
You know, we keep her healthy. I mean she's going
to shatter it. So it is night and day. I mean,
you're you know, we've all been. You know, we've had
some really good tough teams here over the last few years,

(01:30:16):
tough kids, competitors, winners.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
I mean, that's all they did is win.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
But it was.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
A grind, you know, it was a grind to get.

Speaker 7 (01:30:30):
The W and you know, we had to do so
much defensively and then we had to kind of hunt
and peck on offense to try to figure out a
way to score enough points to win.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
And so.

Speaker 7 (01:30:43):
Jordan's impact on on on our team has really been profound.
And again Booker and Rory, you know, they're they're really
to me, they're the benefactor of that because people got
to pick their poison, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
And then you got Justice, who's a physical kid.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:31:04):
That kid is when you when I can get her,
let you know, lasered in and focused, she can be
a problem on the offensive board.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
She can be a problem off the bounce.

Speaker 7 (01:31:16):
Her SHOT's falling right now, she can should make the shot,
you know, stretch in make a three. And then we've
got you know, Taya, who's really good at what she does. Again,
I keep saying that kid is the all time leading
score in the history of Utah High school basketball. So
I think her offensive aggressiveness has changed here lately and

(01:31:38):
she is running with that confidence a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
And then you throw in the two headed monster. It's
why we're where we're at right now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Finally, Vick was asked about Rory Harmon and the way
she's playing with that crazy assistant turnover ratio and how
she can kind of take over games in the way
that she does and how she runs the floor and
what she does defensively. Vic was asked about her confidence
the way she had come off the knee injury, and

(01:32:10):
she was more cautious about it last year, but going
full blast.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
How much of all of that is physical? How much
is mental?

Speaker 7 (01:32:17):
I'm gonna say this, and I've been beating my head
in the wall for four years. This will be year five.
If that kid doesn't win the Nancy Lieberman Point Guard
Award this year, they might as well throw that sucker away.
It's a sham what that kid has done, what she's

(01:32:40):
doing now. Texas women's basketball has been pretty good throughout
its history. We've had some really good players here. And
the kid is gonna she's the only kid in the
history of the school. She's gonna score over fourteen hundred points,
over eight hundred sists. I mean, there's only two other

(01:33:06):
players in the history of the game that have done that.
So I just think right now, she is playing with
confidence because she has so many weapons out.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
There to dish and and and past too.

Speaker 7 (01:33:24):
And and yet people better guard her too because she
can get to her spot and and make shots.

Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
And so.

Speaker 7 (01:33:35):
I just again, she I think she's she feels healthy.
She looks healthy, and she's having fun playing. And I
think that's a big thing for all of y'all. Our
kids are having a blast right now. Man, they're having
fun playing together. They they feed off each other. My
bench is lit.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
I mean, it is so good over there. And and
and that's how that's.

Speaker 7 (01:34:05):
How much our kids enjoy each other. You know, we
got off the bus Sunday evening and me and uh
my wife and then booked.

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Rory, Sarah and Bree. We all sprinted over to volleyball.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
I think Wiz went to and those four kids are
in the front row, down there by the swimmers. I
was a little concerned they get a little close, you know,
those swimmers. They get excited in that game. But they're
down there by the swimmers and they're the best fans.
They're having the most fun, they're engaged, they're supporting their

(01:34:48):
fellow teammate, their fellow athletes, student athletes.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
And it just brings a sense of pride to me
to see those kids.

Speaker 7 (01:34:58):
But is you just have to know that's who those
kids are, that's how they were raised. Their parents raised
them that way, and that's how my whole team is.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
Y'all. This is a unique group. It can't it can't,
you know, say that enough about the class and the
character of this group.

Speaker 7 (01:35:22):
I have no idea what the rest of the season
entails for us, but I know this these this is
a great group of kids, and they're going to play
their hearts out, and you know what, I'm good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
So there's from Vick Schaeffer and Texas women play tomorrow
evening at Moody Center against Northwestern State University six forty
five pre game start time and the tip off at
seven o'clock. More We're coming up here. I'm thirteen under
the zone on that little old band from Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
All.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
It's good to hear from see see top. Wedn't talk
too much much about this this year. The vibe I'm
getting not just as it only as it relates to Texas,
but also the college Bowl scene overall, that there isn't

(01:36:14):
nearly as much enthusiasm generated over the Bowl seen this
year as it might have been in past years, and
certainly on back in the past. The playoff has a
lot to do with that, clearly, and all of the rancor,
all of the posturing and arguing and all and debate
and everything that happened over who should be in the

(01:36:35):
playoff field. I think probably even diminished the Bowl scene
all the more. But those teams, especially the g fives,
but even some of the Power fours that were not
going to be in the playoff have still been able
to find a way to get excited about the ball season.
So Jake had proposed to me and Cameron maybe that

(01:36:59):
we do some sort of Bowl challenge, and maybe maybe
subconsciously we were like channeling our inner, you know, lack
of enthusiasm for the Bowl scene overall, and we just
totally let it go by the boards, and so we missed.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
We missed the boat on that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Yeah, what the heck, guys, I don't know. I'm normally
into such things.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
I'm gonna take it that you didn't want the competition.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
You ducked the smoke it might have been, might have been,
that might have been something.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Now I will tell you that almost texted you guys
on Saturday, like in the middle of the South Lake
Carol De Soto game and say, hey, are we doing
this bowld thing?

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
So put me down for.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Washington tonight against Boise State. And they certainly did their part.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
That's fine. We could take a game by game we.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Could possibly we'll see if Cam's on board for that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
So there's these other games, including one tonight, the I
Fors Salute to Veterans Bowl. This is the one that
used to be called the Point No not Point Seting Bowl.
Magnolia was it was another one like that Bad Boy Mowers. No, no,

(01:38:05):
it was it Camellia Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
It was the Camellia Bowl in Montgomery. Yes, this is
in Montgomery, Alabama. Troy and Jacksonville State two teams from
the state of Alabama. So they were doing that to
make sure they got a representative amount of tendans. D
Herman's preview. That's my dad real backyard brawl.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yeah, thanks Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Yeah yeah, well, and I would say, uh, that's what
happened the first year that Texas State got bowl eligible
when they went division on FBS, they were seven and
five and they got passed over for South Alabama because
who was six and six and it was for that
Kamellia Bowl. And that's because South Alabama, well they're in

(01:38:49):
the state of Alabama and the bowl game was in
the state of Alabama. So that's why they Texas State
got passed over that. They haven't been passed over for
a Bowl since then. But anyway, that one's tonight and
then tomorrow have the Staff DNA Cure Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
It sounds medical anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
Old Dominion South Florida the first of three bowl games
to be played at Camping World Stadium, which of course
will include the Cheese at Citrus Bowl there. So there's
that and Ulso Tomorrow also in the state of Alabama
in Mobile is what's now called the sixty eight Ventures Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
I liked it when it was the Dollar General Bowl,
remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
So anyway, that's Louisiana and Delaware.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Yeah, and Delaware.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Congratulations to Delaware and Missouri State both getting Bowl eligible
in their first year as Division one FBS program. So
Delaware is playing Louisiana and that one, Missouri State is
in the Xbox Bowl, which, by the way, I was
offered the play by play role for that on Network radio,

(01:39:55):
but I had to turn down because I'm doing the
three A Division two State championship game tomorrow night. That's
at the Star in Frisco. Is Missouri State in Arkansas State.
That's on Thursday.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
AM.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
All right, We'll be back to wrap up today's edition
of the program on sports Radio AM thirteen under the
Zone and the iart radio app.

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