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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My name is Craig wag glad to have you with
us this afternoon. Also please to be joined by the producer,
Cameron D.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Parker.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
The D on the birth certificate is Dallas, as in
being named for his favorite football team, but maybe it
should be de icing his icy cold feelings about the Cowboys,
since he says now with the new regime with Brian
Schottenheimer's head coach, he feeling better about him and makes
plans to watch him a little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
So that's that's good.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
So there's always there's always progress through that. But we're
glad to have you with us today, and we're with
you up until five o'clock as we are each and
every weekday afternoon Monday through Friday. Let me tell you
what we have coming up on the program, this aburage.
We're going to hear from Long Worn's head coach Steve Sarkisian.
It was the post practice media availability after yesterday's deal

(00:50):
that got done. So it is still the audio and
video for that matter of record, because they are on
the practice field the same afternoon and there will not
be another post practice media availability until you know, five
forty five six o'clock, well after RAF air today, So

(01:11):
it's current stuff. You'll you'll hear it as it is
going into today's practice. We'll have some of that forty
coming up each of the hours of the program this afternoon,
we will we will do that also in the four
o'clock out, well, in the two o'clock hour, we do
have Inconceivable, And there is a sports and a golf
item in Inconceivable, because if there's one person who can

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identify with the inconceivable nature of the game of golf,
it's Cameron Parker.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Correct. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
So, what's the craziest thing that's ever happened to you
on a golf course?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Oh, that's a good question. Can I bring it back
for inconsumed? Off the top of my head? Me and
Derek Cohen, who was my former boss at the old station, right,
we were out of the Dell match play a ooh
was it twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, almost got
hit by Scotti Scheffer's golf ball.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, I would, I would.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's the first thing that comes to Mindy anytime I
make a birdie, that's pretty inconceivable for me, even parts
sometimes if I find the fairway, you know, very inconceivable,
But I'll think of something else.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, I could give you one as a spectator at
golf and one as a someone trying to play golf.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well you have you have a great one from the
same tournament that was played at a different time on
the PJ Tours calendar when you would attend it. But
it's the same event that's being played right now, the
Windom Championship, right. Can you remember that story with Chichi Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, nineteen seventy three and I was twelve, not quite thirteen,
and my younger brother and I were It was the
tournament got rained One of the days was rained out,
so they extended it to Monday, which is a rarity
these days, right in pro golf, because guys had so
many sponsor commitments and exhibitions and things like that. So

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trying to get a tournament extended to Monday, unless it's
a major, trying to get a tournament extended to Monday
is a rare thing these days, not so rare back
in the day. And as a preteen, I'm out at
the golf course. I'm out at the Sedgefield Country Club
for what was then called the GGO. It had been
pushed to Monday, and our school district much like what

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they do in Dallas when they give them a fair
day where they get a day out of school to
suppose to go to the State Fair of Texas.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Monday.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
They gave everybody because Thursday got and rained out, and
they'd said, well, we're going to go Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
So then the principal said Monday will be a day
out because we had not had any snow days yet,
and they said Monday will be a golf day off
or whatever it is, or they call it something like that.
And uh, my parents had tickets and my dad had

(04:05):
to work so he couldn't go, but my mom took
us and she she enjoyed watching golf as well. One
of her favorites was Gary Player. She loved Gary. She
loved Gary. Come on, Gary, she would say, she really,
she really liked Gary Player. And so we go, we
go to the GGO and my brother Chris and I
are walking around walking around and we followed a couple

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of different go but but one of our favorites was
Chichie Rodriguez.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
And here was chi Chee in the hunt.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
He had never won a PGA tournament before and he
was in the race. And so finally as it gets
to later an afternoon, we go and my mom had
bleacher passes, and so we were sitting like on the
front row of some bleachers. If you're coming up the
fairway on eighteen, it'd be the right side, not far
from a bunker and short at sedgefield and short of

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the green. So I mean, we weren't right on the green,
but we were just off of it down there. And
it's a long uphill part four, and so you can't
see the golfers where they're hitting their second shots. You
really can't even see obviously back to the tea box.
You kind of see the area, but they're down the

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hill hitting their second shots. And we knew they were
down the hill, and he was uh. And there was
Chee Chee, who had I I guess had or was
tied for the fifty four holdly, so he's in the
final group of the day and they get down there
and my brother and I are sitting there and we said,
we actually said this, I promise you, We said this,
wouldn't it be something if Chee Chee hit his ball

(05:39):
right up near here? And we met in the area
just so where you could watch his chip up to
the green. No sooner. I think it was my brother
who said that, no sooner hit. He said that, And
we see a ball come flying at us and it
bounces in and just as a it was kind of reactionary,

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an impulse and also a little bit self defense, but
we kind of like swatted at the ball. I didn't
hit it. My brother did catch a piece of it.
He kept it from going under the bleachers and in
some rough so it got knocked and it got knocked
back over to like the first cut.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, the marshals come running over. Do you touch a ball?
You touch the ball? And I said, I didn't hit it.
I didn't hit it, and.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So and my younger brother didn't say anything. So then
they were gathering a group and are kind of pointing
over at us and all this stuff. Sure enough, here
comes Chee Chee walking straight over and and so they
they decide, well, there's no way the canterment.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Let the ball play it where it lies.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
So Cheeze was able to chip up, knock the ball in,
knock it in his par putt. He wins by one shot,
and it was his first PGA Tour victory. I think
he ended up winning like seven PGA Tour victories or
something like that. He won some senior events, and it
was it was great. It was, it was great. So yeah,
that was That was kind of an inconceivable golf moment.

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We just we'd no sooner. My brother said it, here
comes a golf ball, and we just kind of like
swat at it or whatever, and he kept it from
going underneath the bleachers or going out of bounds or whatever,
and then Chee Chee chips up knocks it in wins
by one shot.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I'm guessing there was no TiO relief back then.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I don't know, I you know, and I'm not sure
how far it would have gone because it was coming
in pretty quickly and it took one hop and then
my brother, i know, deflected it and kept it from
going It might have gone into a spectator area between
nine one and eighteen where there's a lot of walking
around in concession stands and stuff like that. He kept
it from getting out of play, put it that way,

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and so there it was sitting in the first cut.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Chee Chee chips up knocks in wins by a shot.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
So I always ill always remember that was that was
the thing that happened to me as a spectator as
a golfer was the golf cart thing I told you
about that right, or the throttle pedal stuck.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't think you have told me this one.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, this was at Myrtle Beach, or at North Myrtle Beach.
It was in my senior year in high school, and
I was down. It was on spring break, but my
parents had gone down too, and I was playing around
the golf with again my brother Chris, my dad, and
a friend of mine who had come down with his family.
And we're playing a course called Cypress Bay, which no

(08:24):
longer exists, but it had two par threes that were
just dastardly across water. I mean it was like ut
off and there's a pond and then you landed on
the other side. There's just almost no room margin forever.
And I'd already hit it in the water on number eight,
that one, and it was a problem. So we get
to number thirteen, likey number thirteen, another part three across water,

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and I was so thrilled that I hit it hard
enough and straight enough to where it carried the water.
But it also carried the green. It bounced on the
green and bounced off and rolled off the backside near
the cart path. And I get in my golf cart
with my buddy, and my brother Chris is in the
golf cart with my dad. When I did not know
is they had a golf cart where the throttle pedal

(09:10):
was sticking and they were having to pop it and
make sure it didn't do that. I didn't know that.
And they had gone around and my dad had parked
his cart right near where my ball was. He didn't
see where I'd hit my ball, and he's walking up
to the green. He knocked his on the green. So
we park and I start walking toward the green and
I can see his cart there as he's getting out,
and I said, Dad, your cart's there by the ball,

(09:32):
and he was already almost halfway to the green. He goes,
move it, Just go ahead and move it. So I
walk up, and you know how you'd go if you
only wanted to move the golf cart a couple of feet,
You just pop the gas pedal and go up a
little bit. Well, I hit it and it takes off
because the throttle pedal stuck, and it slams into a tree.
And then it backs up like somebody's backing it up,

(09:52):
like it just recoiled, and then it takes off again.
So by then I'd kind of recovered from a shock,
and I run and I jump in it, and I'm
all I'm thinking is break break. I hit the brake,
nothing happens. I pull up the emergency those old emergency brakes,
which in the earliers would throw you right to the front.
It only slows it down a little. I'm heading for
an embankment toward that pond.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I bailed. I jumped out.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
The car goes down the embankment into the pond, and
it's sinking, and my dad's going.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
My clubs, get my clubs. So I pulled his gub.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I go waiting in there, and I get his He
had one of those nineteen sixties alligator golf bags, you know,
and I pulled it. I pulled it out and I
got it out, but he lost a golf hat that
he'd had for fifteen years, one of his bucket hats,
and he'd had some golf balls and some other stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And that cart was left sticking in the water.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
You could just barely see the top part of the
rails in the top pow or of the hood. So
we had five holes to finish. So we finished. Well,
we had teed off late in the afternoon, like four
or four thirty. We get back, the clubhouse was closed,
people have gone, so we kind of do the Bill
Murray sneaking into the car and go out.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Now, my dad said we got to call him.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
So the next day, next morning, we called him and said, hey,
look we try to get that golf cart out.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Is stuck.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
And he said, all we already got it out, No
worried about stuff happens all the time. Well, okay it was.
It had been stuck in the pond and they got
it out so nice. So yeah, so that was my
own inconceivable as a golfer or as a guy trying
to play golf.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Kind of similar story. I think back in high school,
probably senior year, we were playing my home course in
hunters Hold, North Carolina, Burkedale Golf Club Arnold Palmer the
sign just north of Charlotte. And you know, when you're
sixteen seventeen, a bunch of stupid high school kids, you know,
you do stupid things.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
And so I was seventeen when that happened to me.
There's a par three on the front nine.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
And I was in a cart with one of my
buddies and then two other friends in the other cart,
and they thought be a good idea to you know,
drive near the tea boxes instead of on the cart path. Well,
the golf cart got stuck in between the white tea
box and the blue tea box, just stuck in just
swamp water that had kind of gotten built up, you know,

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after a recent rainstorm.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, And the cart would not move. It was stuck.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And me and my buddy were like, you know what,
you dug your own grave driving off the cart path.
We're just gonna keep playing. And my buddy's out there
trying to push the cart away and stuff. And so,
you know, we finished. You know, I think we're just
playing nine. I think it was whole number seven. We
finished eight. We finished nine. You know, we return our cart,
we go to the spot where we were gonna you know,

(12:27):
eat our food and stuff. And my buddy comes in
with his friend and like, yeah, we got chewed out
pretty good by uh by by the course super. Yeah,
by the course Super. It's like, yeah, well that's kind
of your fault now recently, of course, you know the
eighth hole at Barry Creek in that quarry downhill. Yeah,

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so you know, we talked about it. Played on Sunday,
and you know you're trying to adjust for wind and stuff,
and you know there's wind off our back. It's like,
you know, what club do you go with?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Well?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
W in the eight aron about hundred and one hundred
and sixty yards. You know, usually my eight irons about
a good one to fifty club. It's playing ten yards downhill. Uh,
beautiful strike, but I knew from the moment this ball
is too long. And of course behind the eighth green
at Berry Creek is the rock wall. Yeah he's a limestone.
Yeah absolutely, I've all hits the limestone. Oh no, but

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comes back under the green, rolls off just off the green.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
So so you made park ended up? I had an
awful three putt for bogey. Oh okay, Yeah, it could have.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Been worse though.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
It could have been worse though on the number ricocheted
right back into the water in front of the green,
or it could have just been long. The guy was
playing with went over the rock wall.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Because you know you're trying to adjust.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
For you don't want, you don't want it to be short, no, no,
long is okay.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
You don't want to go in the room, especially if
you hit the correate For a second, I thought I
was going to bounce and just land on the green
like wow, I've got a fortunate break, but still still
did not, did not, did not take advantage with that
poor three putt.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
But that was a nice gift from the golf god.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
There you go every now and then you get one
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Speaker 1 (14:26):
The other thing is we will give away two more
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Speaker 2 (14:31):
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So that's coming up in the three o'clock hour. Up next,
we're gonna hear some comments from Longhorn's head coach, Steve
Sarkisian when we continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
It's the craig Way Show with the voice of the
Texas Longhorns and Hall of Vain Broadcasting Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
So when I was talking about what we have coming
up on the program today, I mentioned we have sound
from sark and we'll here's some of that coming up
here in a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I mentioned we have Inconceivle.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
When we got off the rails, as is my bent,
we got in talking talking about golf and Conceivalle. But
the other thing I was going to mention four o'clock hour,
joining us from San Antonio is Jeff Traylor. They head
football coach at UTSA. We'll visit with coach trailer coming

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up in the four o'clock hour. So known him a
long time and then called his state championship games at
the high school level and known him really well. And
when we were visiting down at coaching school when he
was going into the Texas High School Football Coaches Association's
Hall of Honor, I said, Hey, I'd like to even
though Texas and not playing UTSA this year, they are
playing him next year. I think it's every even numbered

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year to the end of the decade, twenty six, twenty eight,
and thirty. And I said, I'd like to get you
on the show just to talk from football. And he said,
you tell me when, and so it worked out we
were able to work out of time.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
So he's going to pop on in the four o'clock hour.
So we're looking forward to that. All right, let's hear
from Sark.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
This was following the first workout yesterday, so it was
yesterday evening following the first practice. They go back to
the practice field this afternoon. But this is in recapping
day number one, practice number one here.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
Sorry you know, I thought the guys overall it was
a good first day. I thought that they were intentional
with their approach. It was obviously a warm day, and
they fought through. You know, naturally, as practice goes on,
fatigue sets in and that's where we got to tap

(18:18):
in more to the mental intensity, the mental focus, uh,
the mental toughness that's needed when fatigue sets in. And
that's something that obviously training camp is for that we'll
work on. But a lot of guys got a lot
of reps today, which was great. I thought it was competitive.
I thought we looked fast. But again, you know, it's
the very beginning stages of training camp and uh but

(18:40):
like I said, I thought it was a good start.
But we you know, as always, we got plenty to
go fix tonight, watching the tapes and staff and then
meet with the players and and get that cleaned up.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
And and you know, get going into day two install.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So that's that was the opening comments on that, and
then it was to the questions the Q and A,
and one of those was about the approach as head
coach to the practice. It's similar to a question that
I put to Kyle Flood the other day about is

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your message to your guys, especially with a younger group,
Is your message any different or is it altered or
something like that, and he said not really. The question
that was asked of Sarcas does he approach practice any
differently this year coming off of last year thirteen and
three season and the expectations and all that other kind
of stuff. Does he approach practice any differently this year

(19:38):
than last year?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Not really.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
You know, in trading camp, we have a real formula
I think for the first two and a half weeks, okay,
where you know, we've got a foundation that we need
to lay in all three phases from an installation standpoint,
and that foundation is what then we can build upon
moving forward.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
We obviously we start today Wednesday, and we'll get four
practices this week. We'll come back, we'll have two early
next week on Monday Tuesday, and then we'll go again
Thursday Friday, and we'll have our first scrimmage next Saturday.
And so that portion of it, that first week and
half is pretty clean cut about what we need to
do to get things accomplished, of what needs to get installed,

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and then we've got a lot of situational things that
we have to work on in that kind of second
week that will lead into our second scrimmage, and so
from that aspect of it, a lot of stuff really
doesn't change. In the approach, we do really try to
tap into the leaders and the guys who have been
in the program for three four and the couple guys
who've been here for five years because they have a

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real understanding of what that takes. And then we push
those young guys you know, that are new to the
program to understand what it takes. And naturally, like a
daylight today, a couple of those new guys are gonna
maybe be further along, and other guys are realized, man,
I need to catch up on things. But the formula
for it all I think we feel pretty good about.

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And then when we get into that third and fourth week,
you know, that's when we'll have an identity we think
for who we are in all three phases, and then
we start to tailor things towards, you know, the guys
that we think are going to play significant amount.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Of time for us.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Among those guys who they feel probably would play significant
snaps might be Tray Moore, who is shifting coming off
the edge to the linebacker spot, and of course Ethan
Burke had a very solid season last year and has
continued to see his his star rise within the umbrella

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of the program. So Sark was asked, what are his
expectations for what he could get off the edge from
Ethan Burke with trade more moving the linebacker.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Well, I thought, I think this has been for Ethan
the best off season, the best summer that he's had
in our pro you know, his commitment to the weight room,
his commitment to his body. You know, he plays a
relentless brand of football, and he's got great length, he's

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got great football IQ and so, you know, I think
a lot of times with Ethan last year it was tough.
You know, he and Barri Cirella play in the same position.
You know, it was tough to you know, him to
get a ton of reps that way.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
But with Baron moving.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
On, I think I think Ethan has really tries to
seize this opportunity. And to me, that started in February,
you know, when we got going and he had a
really good Spring.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
I would probably say he was one of the players
of Spring for US.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
You know, if the guys if we were given out awards,
UH and today felt no different. You know, he's got
a high motor, high level of intensity. He's very smart,
and he really pushes our tackles. And it's great for
our tackles because one rep you might have to block Calling,
which is a different style of player, and the next rep,
now you get a block Ethan who was a different
style of player, and so they tax our tackles, which.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
Is which is good for us.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
All right, So from the wild spring to the Wow
Summer in terms of what the guys did in terms
of their offseason work, they're conditioning the individual workouts. Who
did sark upon watching there in the first workout draw
the impression, Hey, those guys had a wow summer.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Yeah, definitely got to think to summer and the reports
and all the things off of that. You know, I
thought Ryan Wingel had had a heck of a summer.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
That guy.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
You know, there's certain.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Guys that can kind of run all day and a
lot of times you see those guys in there in
the one seventy five to maybe one ninety range.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
But here's a guy who's over two hundred and ten pounds.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
At that size, at that speed and that competitive nature.
I thought that he had a really good summer. Thinking
through here, just some other guys, I don't want to
call it all the same. I think Hero Canoe had
a great summer. You know, there's a new face to
our program. Had a good spring, but I thought really
took it to another level in the summertime with his

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work ethic, with his you know, understanding and the defense.
But then that allowed his leadership to show up. I
definitely thought that he had had a great summer. I
think Xena had a fantastic summer. I mean, he's another
guy that that really worked his way into position. And
I say, Jared Gibson, you know again, I'm jumping around

(24:24):
at different positions just to try to be fair to everybody.
But I think he's in the best shape that he's
been in since he's been here. And you know, for
a guy who had a good freshman season, I think
he's come back and get shape ready to go.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So there's some comments from Sark.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
We're gonna have more coming out throughout the course of
the afternoon the program, more in the three o'clock hour,
and then more in the four o'clock hour. Again also
in the four o'clock hour, joining us live from San Antonio.
The head coach of the UTSA Roadrunners, Jeff Trayler, will
join us as well. But up next we bring you
inconceivable on a Thursday afternoon here on thirteen under the zone.

(25:01):
So I'm in College Station tomorrow. How's that to open
up power number two of the program?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
You are?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I am just in the morning. We welcome you back
our number two of the program here on thirteen under
the zone. Yeah, I'm Craig wy joined by the producer
Cameron Parker tomorrow morning, which means leaving my home in
Georgetown real early. I'm actually gonna be in Brian, not
in College Station. Was supposed to be in College Station,
they got mood. What I'm speaking of is the TAAF,

(25:32):
the Texas Amateur Athletic Federation. Their state games are going
on and they have the swimming competitions, which originally were
scheduled for Texas A and M's Natatorium. I think it
got moved because of some upgrading of facilities and stuff
going on. So it's gonna be over in Brian. But
I'm wanting here to watch my nine year old grandson, who,

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for the second year in a row, is qualified for
state in the.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Freestyle.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
That's awesome, and he's he's in freestyle relay as well.
And then I believe in a medley relay tomorrow and
it's like eight thirty in the morning, so yeah, we'll
leave leave the house pretty early.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
You can set up your phone to a live stream
and commentate.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Nope, got asked that last year when I went down
to Brownsville. State games were Brownsville last year, and I
went down for that and he qualified in two events
last year and I think he played second in the
state in one of those last year, and that was
as an eight year old in his age group, and
now as a nine year old, he's turned out to

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be quite a little swimmer.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Good.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, So that'll be yeah tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
But I'll be back here for the program tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
And like I said, tomorrow afternoon, we'll have Geene Watson
on to recap baseball's trade deadline and the and the
deals in and we'll also do the music survey where
my wife will join me and Linda will be with us,
and we'll we'll both take the music survey simultaneously, not
knowing which category each has picked the particular band and artists,

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so that ought to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
That'll be tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
We're going to do that.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
We're going to hear more from longrt's head coach Steve
Sarkashan coming up in a few minutes, But I did
want to bring everybody up to speed on where things
are in terms of the baseball trade situation. They have
two hours left to get a deal done, and so
far there's been nothing. For the Texas Rangers, nothing's happened yet.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Have traded one picture away about it, Yeah, Cody Hoyer
triple A for cash, which is kind of like a
precursor to clear some space so they can make a
bigger trade. Because what's hampering the Rangers right now is
I think they're only about two million dollars away from
the threshold and the luxury tax, yeah, which is preventing

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them from from making some trades. Because there's been a
couple of guys that I think the Rangers would have
liked to have trade for, but they want to cross
that they they are unable to because of luxury tax roles. So,
like you know, a couple of guys with the pirates
have just been shipped away that I think the Rangers
would have loved. Man the Dodgers could have used David Bednock.
Bednard would have been great in the Rangers uniform, but

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unfortunately not getting the price. So I think there's some
some cash move there that kind of clear it. Plus,
he was playing most of the season in Triple A
with the round Rocks, so if they call them up,
then they're responsible for his contract, which I think was
a little bit bigger than most minor league contracts, which
again would have cut into their luxury tax threshold. So

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kind of a cat clearing move here that may set
up a couple other moves, because I will not I'll
be very shocked if by the end of the day
the Rangers do not have another piece of their bullpen
and at least another catchup.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Wow you so you are expecting to get something done
in the next two hours?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I do, I do?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
All right, Here's here's what's happened so far. The bigger deals.
You knew the pod rates were going to be active,
and they picked up make Miller the pitcher in a
trade with the A's, and so they added you know,
a good closure because I will tell you Suarez has
been Robert Swarez has been up and down for them,

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as their closer. They also picked up left hand and
started Jp Sears. In the deal, the A's landed eighteen
on minor league shortstop Leo Dallas Devrees, the number three
prospect overall in baseball, and right handers bray Net, Henry Biez,
and Edward Neil.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Nunez.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
So there was that Miller, by the way as twenty
saves in the three seven six ERA and thirty eight
appearances this season, so that's that's a really good deal
for San Diego for the here and now. They also
made a deal with the Royals to fill in a
need a catcher. They picked up Freddy for Mean from

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Kansas City. In exchange, the Padres got rid of starters
Ryan Berger and Stephen Kolek and they had a five
to ninety seven ops from there from Martin Maldonado in
the last DS, so that ranks twenty seventh in the
major So they wanted to strengthen up the offensive part

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of the catchers. Phillies picked up Harrison Bader, the outfielder
from the Twins. He had been with the Cardinals at
one time, but two prospects, Henry Mendez and right hander
Jeremy Vlorio will go to the Twins in the deal.
So that was one thing where the Phillies went to
follow up and help out their deal. I mentioned the

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Yankees by did they boost the bullpen. They got David
Bednar from the Pirates, and entering today, Yankees relievers had
an ERA of six point twenty nine in the month
of July. They, along with several other teams, including the Dodgers,

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where I think went eight fourteen in the month of July,
will be happy to move on to August. That Pittsburgh
also gets in the deal catcher Raphael Flores, who is
now at Triple A regarded as a big league ready catcher.
The Pirates also pick up nineteen year old Edgeling Perez.

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That's another guy that they really like an awful lot.
So Bednar, of course, has been pretty solid even for
a team that hasn't been good. Is seventeen saves in
a two three seven ERA. That was a guy the
Rangers could have used. It's a guy the Dodgers could
have used, a guy the Padres could have used.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
The Yankees got him. So David Benmar going to New York.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Also the Blue Jays picking up Shane Bieber in a
trade with the Guardians, So you know that's the guy,
want to say younger when he's had battled injuries. But
they're sending right handed pitching prospect Kyle Stephen, a second
round draft pick from Mississippi State to the Guardians and
the trade. So the blue Jays now have a very

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deep rotation. They got Kevin Gosman, Chris Bassett, Eric Lawer, Joseberios,
and Max Schurzer who's back with him now. So and
and the blue Jays have been the hot of late,
so that was a big deal for them. The uh,
the Astros also apparently are bringing Carlos Korea back to Houston.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I just saw some breaking news just now, yep.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
So, uh yeah, so he's going going back to Houston again,
and we'll give you the tales when we get on that.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
The Dodgers did pick up some bullpen help.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
They're getting Rock Stewart, who actually began his career with
LA but they're going to.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Making a deal with the Twins to get him.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So anyway, those are the main deals that have happened
so far with with Major League, but there's other ones
as well. And then as this deadline approaches, the question
is you know, the Dodgers, the Cubs, the Yankees, and
the Tigers. They're wondering who might go all in, and
Cameron thinks the Rangers are going to be involved in

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that as well. Is that that's going to happen somewhere
somehow down the line. Also, the Tigers did make one
deal to get Kyle Finnigen, the Nationals closer for two
minor leaguers. Right hander Josh Randall and RJ. Sales are
the other two involved in that. That's not a major deal,

(33:34):
but it is a deal that's happened there to that point.
So anyway, those are the main ones that have happened
to this point.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
We'll let you know.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And when we get more details on the deal that
sends Carlos Koree back to the Astros, we'll get that
to you as well. All right, coming up, we're going
to hear more from Long Worn's Heead football coach Steve
Sarkisian when we continue here on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
We're back.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
It's the Craig Way Show with Hall of Fame broadcaster
and voice of the Texas Longheards Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Here's a question which teams of the power for conferences
in college football have the most difficult schedules. We'll get
to that coming up in a few minutes, but let's
hear more from Longhorn's head coach, Steve Sarkisian. So in
moving forward on this, coaches are often asked, in fact,
they're always asked always, how's the freshman coming? Which freshman

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really stands out? What freshman looks good? So we've been
hearing that in the individual work, one of the guys
that had really stood out was the dB Grace and
Littleton from Florida. So sark was asked, how has Grace
and Littleton? And again there was just one practice in
the books that is separate, independent of the individual work

(35:16):
and the offseason work that guys were doing. But the
question nevertheless posted Sark, how has Grace and Littleton looked?

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Grayce and Middleton? You know, for us, this guy kind
of great spring. You know, I feel like I talked
about him a lot and maybe maybe not fair to
him that I was talking about him too much. But
he just comes back and he works. He's very savvy,
he's smart, he's tough, he works at his craft. You know,
football is the most important thing in his life and

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it shows and came out and had a good day today.
You know you can coach him hard. He takes hard coaching,
he responds, he tries to get better.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
So it's a it's a good start for him of
where he's at.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
One of the guys who was coached hard as a freshman,
who took the hard coaching to heart and who excelled
was Colin Simmons obviously last year. So now Simmons sophomore,
much is being projected of how he could be and
he's on some watch lists. Early he switched to Jersey
number one because he says he's the one and he

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really wants to show what he can do. So there's
always a delicate balance, especially when you're in fall camp workouts,
between what you're expecting from a guy of who much
is expected and how much you want to drive him,
how much you want to push him, how hard you
want to work him in the fall camp workouts before

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you even get to those probably four games that are
played in the upper nineties to one hundred degrees, and
maybe not so in Columbus, but the other the three
home games in Austin of September, So Sark was asked
about how you balance all of that, wanting to play
Colin Simmons a lot and to play him more coming
off the edge, but also keeping him fresh.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
Well, I would I'd say he definitely needs to play more,
and and that you know, and.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
And doing it in a way to where we we
we do want him to be fresh, and so there's
that there is a balancing act in that.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
But he needs to play more.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Uh that would that would say that you know that
that's pretty obvious. But I also want him to play
well when he's out there more, right, and.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
So his physical conditioning is important.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
I think that his understanding defensively of what we're doing,
how we're doing it, and why we're doing it can
help him along the way.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
You know, maybe a little bit of performance anxiety.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
Sometimes when you're young, your heart rate gets going a
little faster than you want it to sometimes. And I
think now going into year two will be a lot
more kind of discomposed, not that he wasn't.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
But you know, just kind of tempering where he's at.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
And and then by being out there more that's going
to be allow him to set up more Russians. You know,
I think so many times he was Russian just to win.
And when you're on the field more and now you
can start setting things up. You know, it's like a
really good pitcher. You know, sometimes you got to throw
high inside fastball to get the slider on the outside
half for the strikeout. And so now he can start

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to do those things, you know, as he as he's
on the field. Board.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, okay, all right, So.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Let's roll back to that freshman thing again, because we
were just talking about and he just heard start talking
about Grace and Littleton. What about some of the other
freshmen who among the freshmen has really shown him something
early on?

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Yeah, Daleen, I thought had a very good day and
it's can kind of continue from where he was at
in the spring. I thought a guy who had his
best practice today for a young player was Michael Terry.
You know, you got to remember this guy in high
school played a lot of difference in jack of all trades, right.
He was wildcat quarterback, he was receiver, he was running back,

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he was all over the place. And so spring was
I would say difficult for him, the transition graduating high
school literally getting here playing a position and really detailing
the position.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
I didn't think we saw the best version of him today.
I saw a really good.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
Version of Michael Terry. He looked fast, he looked physically,
he looked strong. Uh So that was really encouraging jumping around.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
You know, I know this guy is.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
A second year player, but he's new to us. First
time I saw him. I think Ron Watson looks great.
I think that's that's been. That's been very encouraging on
that front. Lace Jackson, you know, he continues to show,
you know what his ability to play, and so a
lot of those guys, and again, you know, I'm always
hesitant on these first couple of days when we're not

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in pads yet and they haven't gotten sore yet, and.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
This is as good as they're gonna feel all year.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
We just saw it, all right, and so now now
the bumps and bruises and things are gonna start to
kick in. And then now you see how guys respond
to to some of that adversity too.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, start gonna feel all year because it'll go from that.
Just to recap the guys if you're wondering, he mentioned
Dylan McCutcheon. He's that wide receiver from Lovejoy. I've called
a couple of games he played any really really talented
guy he's won, and then he mentioned Michael Terry. Alamo
Heights really was impressed by Michael Terry did a couple

(40:16):
of games and including it is a massive playoff game
where I worked at telecasts on just this huge playoff
game against San Antonio Piper and Michael Terry was everywhere,
and he was all over the field. Just like Sark said,
he kind of played with Jack of all trade. Play
wide receiver, wildcat, quarterback, played d B, played a little linebacker,
played running back. He did everything there for the Mules

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for Alamo Heights.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, his evaluation was interesting because a lot of people,
you know, weren't sure what to make of him because
he played everything.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, It's like where cany he play?

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, and well what's his ceiling here? Because you know,
he played everything else beside receiver for Almo Heights. He
was used a lot for them, So it was kind
of hard to know versus a player who's played every
snap of his high school career at one position. Right,
you've a pretty good idea what he can do. Michael
Terry was a Swiss army knife for Alan O Heinz.
I saw him too, and he was. He was a

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lot of fun to watch and in good to hear
his name called out as well from Steve Sarks because
the receiver room, Craig has so much depth in it.
But of course a lot of them are younger guys
who have not seen those reps outside of Ryan Wingo,
outside of DeAndre More, outside of Emmitt Moseley. So who
from the young group will step up? Encouraging to hear

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McCutcheon and Terry's name.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yep, yep, that was That was the Moor. He said.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
One guy who's not a freshman, but he's new to
us as Marod Watson. He's talking about the Syracuse transfer
big boy, and he was a freshman All American last
year as Syracuse big as as Cam said six three,
three hundred thirteen pounds. Huh, yeah, he's a big fan.
And then he mentioned Lance Jackson. He's an edge rusher
from Pleasant Grove. And that's that football factor up in
the far northeast corner up there in the Texas Canary.

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Great coaching staff up there with Josh Gibson and his
group up there, and I was, I was tickling one
of us saw that they got him committed because I
know what how dedicated they are to the football process
up at Pleasant Grove, and that was that was a
good sign.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
To see one of the games. Lance Jackson was an
official recruit. And so when when the game ends in
the post game, for the post game, the media will
travel from the press box back into mon Creef to
the setup for where Steve Sircasian will come in into
his his press conference, his postgame press conference, and then
they'll bring in the players as well. It might have

(42:29):
been utsa Louisiana Monroe. Remember I walked by Lance Jackson
and I'm like, you know, six to two and a quarter,
six three, I have the right shoes on. I felt small,
very small. Next, I mean, he's got to be like,
I don't know. He's listed as he's listed. He's listed
at sixty five. Yep, sixty He had all of that.

(42:53):
He's all of six five. Yeah. And that was, you know,
as a senior in high school. And I think it
was Colin Simons and Anthony Hill. I know it was
a third and longhornon podcast or just spring ball, but
they they mentioned Lance Jackson by name and that was
his first spring. I think that kid is going to
be an absolute stud for Texas and years to come.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
He's only a freshman, no doubt. Speaking of freshman, CJ.
Baxter had a really good freshman year then of course got
injured for he could ever play in a sophomore campaign.
Derek Williams also got injured last year. So this is
the injury update on those two guys. How I've CJ.
Baxter and Derek Williams looked to this point.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
I'll be honest with you, I think they both looked
really good.

Speaker 7 (43:36):
You know.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
Uh, Derek I felt maybe a little better than CJ,
just for just kind of watching summer, and he looked
really good today. CJ, I would probably say, was better
than I was anticipating, especially when we got into team periods.
You know, he hit a couple of runs that we
were very encouraging to me of, you know, because a

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lot of time when you're coming off a knee injury,
significant injury like those guys, physically you're ready, it's the
mental side of the game, right of what does that
feel like?

Speaker 7 (44:10):
And I'm a.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
Runner and now I got to run between these four
to three hundred pounders and the whole doesn't look big
enough for me to get through. But I got to
try to get through it. It's a psyche thing. And
I thought, I thought, you know, CJ.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
He thought CJ did really well. That was how that
one ended that.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Okay, newcomers, Uh, one of those that the most let
me just say this, one of the more ballyhooed newcomers
is Jack Hendrys, the tight end coming in from Cowie
sixty to forty. We heard yesterday we heard Jeff Banks

(44:49):
talking about it. And not not only is he, you know,
a downfield stretched tight end in terms of catching the football,
he's a guy who can line up on the edge.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Somebody, I think somebody asked.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Coach Banks yesterday about, you know, can you see him
lining up in an H back role? And he said,
I don't like to pigeonhole somebody because when you think
H back automatically, you're thinking down the line. Here's a
guy who's in there primarily the block and I catch
the football and injuries. We know can catch the football

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as far as his number showed when he was playing
at col last year. So you know that was that
was one of the things that he was going to
ask about. But there's another running backs question. I wanted
to get to before we get to the jack interesting
and that is CJ. Baxter and Trey Weisner. Trey we
saw really make incredible progress last year and become really

(45:47):
the called upon, dependable guy in the backfield. So now
having Baxter back, how important is it to have both
of those guys being available to be down and down
out of factive within this offense.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
Well, I think is helpful.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
And that that's to take nothing away from from Christian
and jer because I think those guys can play too
and so but but I think something CJ provides that
is inspiring to the guys in the offense, uh and
really to our team. You know, here's a guy who
was set to you know, start again as a sophomore
and and poise for a great season and gets injured and.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
The the attitude that he.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Embraced to come back from that injury all season long,
that guy was on our sidelines for every game, he
traveled with us, He was in huddles, he was picking
teammates up and then and his teammates were watching his
rehab all along as they were playing. And to see
him back and to watch him address the offense last

(46:53):
night in the offensive meeting about the energy that was
needed in practice today. Uh, and the focus that they
needed to have, and then for him to go out
and have the practice he had that is huge. You know,
I already know Trey Wisner's the energizer, buddy. I mean,
this guy nobody practices harder, you know what he provides
to our team. So as much as it's their physical play,
I think it's their presence that helps us too as

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a not only as an office.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
But I think as a team.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Okay, now to the Jack Andres question.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
And when you get a guy coming in through the portal,
no matter the position, offense, defense, specialties, whatever it might be,
there is always uh a familiar uh uh, a familiar
familiaralization that has to go on an assimilation into the

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system and into the program.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
So Sark was asked about Jack injuries.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
This is the uh California or he we don't have it.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Computers having a having a tough day of the day.
We're back up, We're back.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Oh okay, Okay, So Sary was asked about Jack injuries.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
With just as we try to assimilate our computer into
the show, Jack Hedrey's about being assimilated into the system.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
Yeah, I think that.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
He Jacks's cerebral guy and he wants to do things right,
which I appreciate about him. And so, you know, this
was his first practice and so a lot of the
things we were doing he had never done before, right,
So it was like, I need to kind of learn
the flow of practice. You know, he's been running routes
and doing those things with Arch And so as we
got going into the seven on seven and the team stuff,

(48:30):
definitely you know, in the front and do it. That
made a couple of really nice plays for us today.
But again, he wants to do it right, and he
wants to earn what he does around here, and and
I think more importantly, he's a cerebral guy, and he
wants to learn, he wants to know, and he wants
to feel confident what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Okay, all right, So there's that. And as we continue
with the offense, obviously Arch Manning is arch Is arch
is arch. I mean he's on the cover of magazines.
Obviously everybody's you know, looking at him and leaning into arch. Uh.
One of the more popular questions is what about the
race for the backup quarterback spot? And for that matter,

(49:06):
a guy who transferred into the system. That's Matthew Caldwell,
a guy who has played Division one football. He had
played at Auburn, he had played at Troy, and so
he's transferring in. And Sarcus asked why he brought Matthew
or matt Caldwell as he calls him into his program, Page.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
One, do they know what to do? And that kind
of comes from is the ball going where it's supposed
to go? Okay, yeah, I mean that's a guy who
started games at Division one football, you know, and he's he's.

Speaker 7 (49:43):
Played he's played a good enough amount.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Of football to where, you know, as we progress, the
last thing I want to do is put a young
player on the field if he's not ready to play.
That's something that any position in quarterback is obviously, you know,
the most important one. That So if I could get
a player that had a little a bit experience, that
was gonna help us. What I liked about him when
he was on his visit was his level of maturity

(50:07):
and just the way he carried himself to go along
with He's got athleticism, he throws an accurate ball. But
what I've learned from him this summer and even today A,
he's really coachable.

Speaker 7 (50:19):
You coach this guy hard.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
And he and he takes coaching. But two, he's got
really good rapport with his teammates. He's got good rapport
with the other quarterbacks, with the other guys of the team.
He carries himself confidently, but not arrogantly. And so there's
a lot of things to like about him. And again,
we got we got a lot of time here to
to figure out what's gonna happen at that backup spot.

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But but where from where he was when he first
got here to where is today?

Speaker 7 (50:45):
I've been impressed with the progress.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Okay, so that's Matt Colewell, but what is start looking
for out of all of his quarterbacks? Arch Banning Colwell,
you know, Trey Owens, all of those guys. What's he
looking for out of his quarterback in practice right now?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
In these early days?

Speaker 6 (51:02):
I think One, do they know what to do? And
that kind of comes from is the ball.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
Going where it's supposed to go? Okay? Two?

Speaker 6 (51:13):
Are they are they? Are they throwing it with some accuracy?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Right?

Speaker 7 (51:16):
Not every throw is gonna be perfect, but it's there.
There's some accuracy there.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
And then three, probably one of the bigger things I
look for is how do they respond to negative place?

Speaker 7 (51:25):
You know, how do they respond to a poor throw?

Speaker 6 (51:27):
How do they respond maybe to a poor read or
a or a bobble snap or an interception, Because that's
as close as I can get them to real football,
like what's gonna happen in a game when something doesn't.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Go their way?

Speaker 6 (51:41):
And so we look for a lot of those types
of things. I thought, for the most part, you know,
I gotta watch the tape because we split the field today,
you know, so I gotta go and look at Trey
and and kJ and and their team stuff off.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
The tape and Coach Milby was with them. I was
with Arch and Matt today. But I thought Arch and.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Matt were really good. And it wasn't per I don't
expect day one to be perfect. Did some really good things,
but I even thought routes on air there were some
good things in there. They weren't perfect first day back,
but they made some throws today that were encouraging into
fitting the style of offense.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
I think that we want to.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Be this far.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Yeah, all right, So what art what Sark was obviously
referring to, Certainly he was going to be watching arch
manning first day fall.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Camp practice as the guy.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
But as I mentioned, he was also watching the transfer
quarterback coming in and that's Matt Colwell. You heard him
talking about him. But then he said on the other
field they had it split up. You had Trey Owens,
who's the red shirt freshman, the one out of side
fair and kJ Lacey is the incoming true freshman. He's

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from sarah Land, Alabama. So he said they were split
on the other field. He wanted to take a look
at that and see where they are with that. So anyway,
that's that. That's more from sark Well. Here's some more
from him coming up the next hour. We've got some
other college football notes to get to when we come
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Speaker 1 (56:03):
There was a piece today from Chris Low from ESPN
about toughest and easiest schedules in college football this year,
and so I'll tell you I'll run down some of this.
The toughest Power four because it is four, because there's

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no Pac twelve this year, there will be next year.
And the question is will they be a Power five
Since it's largely a rebuilding through the Mountain West and
adding Texas State in there, it may remain just Power
fours and that might be G six instead G five,
Group of five. But the toughest Power four home schedule

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this year belongs to Mississippi State, So second season for
Jeff Levy, and they're going to have to play four
playoff teams from a year ago at home, Arizona State
on September sixth, Tennessee on September twenty seventh, Texas on
October twenty fifth, and Georgia on November eighth.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
And then, as it's written, if that's not enough. They
close the season.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
At home in the annual Egg Bowl matchup with number
twenty four Ole miss Nearly eighty percent of Mississippi State's
roster is made up of first or second year players,
with sixty new players added for the season. Easiest power
for home schedule is Texas. Only one preseason top twenty

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five team will visit DKR Texas Memorial Stadium the season,
and that's at the very end. When number twenty three
Texas A and M makes the one hundred five mile
trip to Austin, they write, yeah, it depends on what part.
If it's really one hundred and five, it might be
close to about ninety seven, depending on what side of
town and all that. But anyway, we say roughly one
hundred miles. After they open, by the way, at number

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five Ohio State. On the road, they do play San
Jose State, UTEP and SAM Houston the next three weeks
at home. Other than Texas A and M, Texas other
two home dates the final month are against Vanderbilt November
first and Arkansas November twenty second.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Seam and you don't know how those teams are going
to come up.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Vanderbilt proved to be pretty tough opponent for some teams,
ask Alabama.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
In an odd twist. Here's the other thing to keep
in mind.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Texas does not play a game in Austin in the
entire month of October.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
No home games in the month of October.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi State are all on the road, and
the Red River Showdown game against Oklahoma as always is
in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Texas as the designated home team. By the way, for.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
That toughest Power For schedule away from home, Syracuse Fran
Brown a first year coach last.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Season, but they had ten wins.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
August thirtieth openers against Tennessee at Mercedes ben Stadium in Atlanta,
I'm pretty much a home game for the volunteers, and
then they play at number two Clemson on September twentieth,
at number fifteen SMU on October fourth, at number twenty
one Miami on November eighth, and at number seven Notre
Dame on November twenty Sea.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
That's pretty tough.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Easiest Power Force schedule away from home, that would be Missouri.
The Tigers play eight of their twelve games this season
at home, and only one of their four road games
is against the ranked opponent number twenty five OU they
play in Norman on November twenty second. The other three
are against Auburn on October eighteen, Vanderbilt October twenty fifth,
in Arkansas November twenty ninth. As they say, it's never

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easy on the road in the SEC, but the Tigers
are avoiding some of the most treacherous stops. Toughest closed
to the season, Rutgers their schedule outside the Big Ten
pretty easy. Have home games first three weeks against Ohio,
U Miami of Ohio, and Norfolk State. But the close
to the season. Their last six games for Rutgers are

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against eighth ranked Oregon at home on October eighteenth, at
Purdue on October twenty fifth, at number eleven, Illinois November first,
against Maryland and home on the eighth, at number five,
Ohio State on number twenty second, and at number one
Penn State and home on November twenty nine. And by
the way, these rankings may be a little bit different
than the ape pole comes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Out after that, but that's where it is right now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Easiest close to the season, they say, is Illinois. Three
of their last four home games against Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern
toughest three games stretch OU, which plays Texas in Dallas
on October eleventh, followed by road game in number thirteenth
South Carolina on October eighteenth, and a home game against
number twenty four Ole Miss on October twenty fifth. If

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we stretched out four games, they didn't get much better.
They then go on the road to play Tennessee on
November first and Eland Stadium. Three of those four games
are away from home, so there's there's some of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Then they have easiest.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Our toughest overall Power four schedule is Florida. Easiest overall
powerfour schedule, Wake Forest toughest non Power Force schedule, Kent
State easiest non Power Force schedule, Liberty toughest Power for
non conference schedule is Clemson. Clemson begins August thirty first

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at home against six ranked LSU. They close the season
November twenty ninth on the road against South Carolina. On
those they do go to BYU on September sixth. It
looks a little easier now that Jake Rhet's office left
b yu In transferred to Tulane, so and then they
get Miami in conference play as well, But anyway, that's

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the tough. The easiest power for non conference schedule was
Penn State. Then they say must see non conference games.
Obviously Texas Ohio State's gonna be one. But it actually
starts on August twenty nine. To what I told you
about this, Cameron Baylor's hosting Auburn and they're having a
blackout at McClean Stadium that night, a blackout for Baylor,

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and a lot of students will also be blocked out too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Baylor Auburn on August twenty ninth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Also on the thirtieth, in addition to Texas at Ohio State,
you taught UCLA, Notre Dame at Miami, LSU at Clemson,
ALAMAM at Florida State. All of those who are on
the thirtieth on that first full weekend, there's that zero
week that happens the week before, but that's just a
handful of games there. And then on September sixth, you
got Michigan at Oklahoma and Kansas at Missouri. On the thirteenth,

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you got A and M and Notre Dame. On the twentieth,
you at Florida at Miami. October eighteenth, USC at Notre Dame.
In November twenty ninth, Clemson at South Carolina. And then
there are the better be careful games matching Power four
teams against G five Group of five teams, and those
are Toledo at Kentucky, James Madison at Louisville, UCLA UNLV

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Army at Kansas State, South Florida at Florida, Arkansas State
against Arkansas in the Little Rock first time they ever
will have played. Duke at Tulane Arkansas, Memphis, tu Lane
at Ole, miss BYU at East Carolina, San Jose State
at Stanford, and Boise State at Notre Dame. So there's
a little look ahead as we are one month to

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kick off of this college football season. We'll be back
to wrap up hour number two on thirteen under the Zone,
third and final hour of the program. Here on thirteen
under the Zone, Craig Way, Cameron Parker with you alongside
until we get up to five o'clock and then Fox
to Ports Radio takes the range from there. Coming up
in a few minutes, we will visit with Jeff Traylor,
they head football coach at UTSA. I get his thoughts

(01:03:42):
about his Roadrunners, since he is the guy who pretty
much has transformed that program into being one of the
better mid major programs in the country, and we'll get
his thoughts on the Roadrunners daunting season ahead, which concludes
a trip to College to take on Texas A and
M to kind of rotating between playing the Aggies and

(01:04:04):
the Long Wrns. We'll be back in Austin next year
to play Texas. We will also hear from Long Wrns
head coach Steve Sarkejim more of his commentary following their
first day of practice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yester.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
They're on the field right now, involved in practice day
number two, so he will have a recap of that
after the practice, which will be late this afternoon, early
this evening, and he'll recap that. We'll have some of
that sound tomorrow. Also tomorrow we'll visit with Gene Watson

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to talk Major League Baseball because there's one hour to
go until the trade deadline, and we'll visit with Geno.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
And we'll talk about several.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Deals, including apparently this deal that's going to se and
Carlos Korea back to the Houston Astros from the Minnesota Twins,
where he had signed with them as a free agent.
But apparently Korea has been more than willing to waive

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his no trade Claws to do this, and he apparently
also is a going to play third base share the
left side of the infield Jeremy Peniam. The Astros went
into the trade deadline trying to get a left handed
hitter and a starter. Isaac Paratus, the third baseman, could
miss the rest of the season with a serious hamstring injury,

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so then they got real aggressive and looking to make
a deal for Korea. They also filled in their desire
to get a left handed hitter. They picked up outfielder
his Us Sanchez from the Miami Marlins.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
It's not immediately known.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yet who the Astros would be willing to give up
for Carlo's Korea, but.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
He could be back with him pretty soon. That'd be
pretty big deal for them if it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
If it turns out to that the New York Mets,
by the way, have picked up Cedric Mullins and a
deal from the Orioles. This has happened in the last
hour as well. They had been in conversation with the
White Sox about Luis Robert Jr. But landed on Mullins.
And you had seen what rumors about the possibility of
a Doolies Carcia going to the Mets but apparently that's

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not happening.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
I think just some someone on Twitter just trying to start. Yeah, Okay,
El Bombie is staying put you think so. Yeah, And
it's looking more and more like the Rangers may not
make a big deal after that. That would surprise you,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I don't know, a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
I think getting Colombia from Minnesota kind of fills that
bullpen spot. I don't know they're endng after to their
bullpen guy. I would think they would go after another
catcher just to bolster their their debt behind home plate.
But you know, maybe not interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
So the trade deadline approaches. There are games going on
right now, including one in a ring.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Delay right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
The Yankees up similar four on the Rays. That's in
the bottom of the fifth and the Yankees perhaps getting
the biggest prize, or one of the biggest prizes out
of the trade deadline as they picked up closer David
Bednar from the Pirates and reliever Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Bird from the Rockies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
The Pirates are going to get three minor leaguers for Bednar,
and that that includes catching prospects Rockfield Flores and Edelene
Perez and centerfielder Brian Sanchez. In the deal, the Yankees
are going to send the Rockies two prospects, two minor
leaguers for Bird, second basement rock Visio and left hander

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Ben Shields. So the deal about Bednar is, here's a
guy with seventeen saves and forty two appearances, a two
to three seventy RA career best in strikeout and walk rates.
Leaf Lately he's been really good, a zero point thirty
nine earned run average of twenty nine strikeouts in just

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five walks of the last twenty four outings through Wednesday.
He was the guy the Rangers took a good long
look at to try to see if they could make
a deal. It's a guy the Dodgers kind of coveted.
A little bit didn't happen there. Dodgers ended up picking
up Brock Stewart from the Twins, a guy who started
his career in Los Angeles. So and then and then

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the podres ballstering their bullpen. They picked up the A's
closer Mason miller As. They also picked up left handed
started Jp Sears, and in return, the A's picked up
eighteen year old minor league shortstop Leo Dallas. Devrees, who's
the number three prospect in baseball, and right handers bray Net,
Henry Biez and ed dwarniil Nunie. So there's a lot

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happening here going right to the wild and I do think,
by the way, that is due in large measure, if
you take a look at the baseball standings, you'll see
a lot of teams in contention, if not for the
division races, certainly for the wildcard Like, for example, the
Jays are up four games on the Yankees and five

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on the Red Sox. In the East, the Tigers are
cruising despite stumbling a little bit of late, They're still
up nine on the Guardians, and the Astros are up
five on the Mariners and Rangers. However, in the wild
card race right now, the Mariners and Rangers are tied
for the third wildcard spot, but Cleveland's only two and

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a half back of that, Kansas City three, Tampa Bay three,
and LA the Angels just four. In the National League,
the Cubs would hold down the top wildcard spot, with
Philadelphia second and then the Pod Race third and a
half to that, the Reds are three back and the
Cardinals are five and a half back, but in the
division races. In the National League, they're even closer. They're

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really close. The Phillies are only a half game back
of the Mets in the East, the Cubs are only
one game back in Milwaukee in the Central, and the
Dodgers' lead over San Diego is three games in the West.
And you say, well, it's three games. That's the closest
San Diego. He's been in the Los Angeles since June sixteenth,
Because the Dodgers have been five and five over the
last ten ball games have just kind of been tread

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and waterloo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
But they did win the series of the Reds.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
They took two out of three after dropping two or
three of Boston, and now they head to Tampa Bay
over the weekend. All right, so there's the baseball update
for you. Up next, we'll talk college football with the
head coach of the UTSA Roadrunners, Jeff Trailer. When we
continue on thirteen Under the.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
Zone and we're back to the Craig Way Show. Have
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Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Glad to have you with us here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
By the way, we have iHeartRadio brethren, obviously down in
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You know, WAI also the ticket KTKR AM seven sixty,
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Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Headed up our next guest.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
In case you didn't know it, UTSA has more wins
since the start of this decade in twenty twenty than
any other college football program in the state of Texas.
It just happened to coincide with the arrival of Jeff
Traylor as the head coach and coach Trailer and I
have known each other for quite a while, going back

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to his outstanding coaching days at Gilmer, winning state titles
there and a Texas High School Football Hall of Famer
and most recently Texas High School Coaches Association Hall of
Honor member.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
And inductee, and he joins us now on the hotline.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
I've been waiting to ask you this question for I
don't know why I didn't ask you this question when
we were in San Antonio on that stage. With all
success that you've had over these past five years at UTSA,
do you feel finally like a full fledged college football coach?
Because I've heard you quite often refer to yourself as
deep down inside. You'll always be in some respect the

(01:12:20):
Texas high school football coach, But do you feel like
a full fledged college coach after five years as a
head coach?

Speaker 8 (01:12:27):
Well, I will never lose my root to forget where
I came from, for sure, But I would be lying
to you if I didn't tell you that our sustaining
success at UTSA has not given me great confidence and
held validate to all my Texas high school buddies that

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we can come to this level level and be successful
and sustainable.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
And that's not to say we've won every game, because.

Speaker 8 (01:12:55):
We haven't, but we are very proud of what we've
done five years and maybe I know, maybe and arguably
for sure the five to multiples years of the history
of Talge football.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
No question about that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
And yet, and here's another thing I've heard high school
coaches and that goes not only with the leadership of
the High School Coach Association, but just the rank and
file coaches across the state refer to you as a
bit of a trailblazer. Yes, there have been high school
coaches in Texas who have gone on to be college
coaches successful, but the fact that you kind of really

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are cut from the fabric of state championship coaches at
the high school level. To carry that forward kind of
has served as an inspiration to a lot of high
school coaches saying, Hey, that's an attainable thing for me
down the road if I do what I'm supposed to
do and things happen the way. Do you do you
feel I don't know if responsibility is the right word,

(01:13:53):
but do you kind of feel some mentorship some leadership
in that category?

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
Well, there's no.

Speaker 8 (01:13:59):
Doubt coincidence that I wear that TCHSCA cap a couple
of times per year, and anytime i'mre on the national scene,
I want to wear it. And it's not just that
I put my money where my mouth is. I mean,
if it's a coordinator just left won a state championship
at La Travis. Joe Pross, our past game coordinator won
a state championship at North Shore. Kurt Trailer, our run

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game coordinator, won multiple championships at Gilmer. Matt Turner, our
chief of staff, won a state championship at Marshall and
won state championship with US at Gilmer. So I've got
a staff full of Texas high school football coaches and
I didn't name them all.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
I just named the ones that had won state championships.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
And I would imagine that's a great deal of pride
for not only you as a head coach, but for
your staff when you're on the recruiting trail. And that
was a big part of when we did that panel
discussion a couple of weeks ago, the deal about recruiting
to be visiting not only with the high school coach,
but the young man and the family, about that active tissue.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Isn't it about?

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
You have coaches who have been there, been in the
trenches on the high school scene, and they can make
that transition as a high school student athlete to the
collegiate level, just as you guys did.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Coaches, I would imagine.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
Yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 8 (01:15:14):
I mean, Corey Jordan, who's from the Metroplex, can go
anywhere in Dallas. Joe Priceton go anywhere in Houston, Kirk
Tradler can go anywhere in East Texas, and Jess Lepp
and go anywhere in Austin or Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
He's coach in both places.

Speaker 8 (01:15:28):
And you know, I cut my teeth recruiting. That's how
I got this job. When I was the university of Texas.
We had great success recruiting, it did not translate to
as many wins on the field as we would like
to have. And that's how you get in these chairs.
You gotta have relationships. You got to recruit, but then
when you get them, you got to develop them. And
that's the piece that people don't talk about enough. The

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evaluation piece is important. Recruiting is important, but what do
you do with them when you get them on your campus?
And that's where we really gained the trust even more
of our Texas high school buddies is they might not
all play, they might not all go to the National
Football League, but they know we're going to take care
of their kids and deal with them in a very
honest fashion.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Do you think that that might be the most challenging
part of being a college football coach, whether you're talking
about whatever power four, G five, G six, whatever you
want to call it, at any level, is the development
of the student athlete once you recruit, no matter how
talented they were, or if they were someone who just

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kind of slid under the radar, a diamond in the
rough that you found still in all the piece of
the development is that as challenging as about anything for
a college football coach these days, Well.

Speaker 8 (01:16:41):
It shouldn't be, but it is because of the new
way the time frame works. You have to look at
these young men now as six months six months. I
hope you understand that opportunity to really influence that kid
because you don't know what that next six month is
going to look like, and how you treat that kid
during that time is gonna really resonate with him more

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than anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
We're gonna do.

Speaker 8 (01:17:05):
I you know, I really enjoyed having a kid and
knowing I having for five years. Those are still my
greatest joys of getting them one there just right out
of high school and seeing them all the way through,
hearing about their weddings, hearing about their kids, seeing where
their jobs are gonna be like one day. And I
don't think that's gone. It's just harder because you're stare,

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your roster is a little more fluid.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
We haven't lost that many kids.

Speaker 8 (01:17:31):
One of my favorite kids is actually on the University
of Texas a roster and trade more. Uh, those things
are painful. It's that I love the kids so much,
but I think when they exit, how you continue to
root for trade more how you continue to invest in
trade more and anytime I talk to Sart, I want
to know how Trey's doing, because I truly care for
that kid.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Yeah, and and I know, like you said, it's been fortunate,
uh that you haven't had to lose too many players,
that this is something that's happening everywhere around college football?

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Does that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Is that a major part of the I've heard coaches
talk about this. I think I've even heard you make
reference that the re recruiting or the ongoing recruiting of
the young man that you have in your program. You
mentioned six months that having him having him there, is
it a constant cycle of the re recruiting that goes
on for you.

Speaker 8 (01:18:22):
Now, it shouldn't be, because you should be treating that
kid the way the Lord wants you to treat him
every day of his life.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
There should be no different. I just don't believe in.

Speaker 8 (01:18:30):
That where it gets different, Craig, it's just the agents
have now entered the scene, and now you're dealing with
agents at the end of each cycle.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
You're not dealing with your player like you used to.
That's the biggest difference.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Yeah, And that's I'm not going to use the word scary,
But I'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I mean it's an unnerving thing. It's an unsettling thing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Isn't knowing that that's an extra bridge to cross now
for you for the athletic program.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
In terms of whether a young man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Stays because of the outside party, whether it's a third party,
fourth party. I have heard it referred to as the
shady uncle, whatever that might be. I mean, that's that's
an element that that just kind of adds something to
your plate, didn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
It just depends on who the agent is you're dealing with.

Speaker 8 (01:19:13):
You know, the higher character that person has, the more
he's gonna care for his kid. And it's you know,
it's it all comes back to relationships to a degree.
But there are some where you just don't have the
ability to let them know what you think really.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Is best for them.

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
And that's another thing that you had to be You
have to really check your own self to make sure
you're giving kid accurate information. And it's just the way
the new world is right now, So I tell my
team right now, just don't you've heard this quarter a
thousand times. Yesterday's history, tomorrow's a mystery, Today's a gift.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
That's why it's called the present.

Speaker 8 (01:19:49):
Let's don't start thinking about what's gonna happen in December.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Let's be right where we are right now. If you
want to be.

Speaker 8 (01:19:55):
A coach it's gonna have a great career, you better
have a great video on film. If you're a player
it wants to have options in December. If you're a
coach that wants to have options in December, you better
put great video out because if you don't put great
video out, someone else is going to decide your future.
When you put great video out, you get to decide
your own future.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Out about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Visiting with Jeff trailer Head coach at UTSA here on
thirteen hundreds, and let me ask you about some of
the guys you do have on your roster. And I
want to start with your senior wide receiver who today
was selected on the Paul Horning Award watch list, and
that's Willie McCoy. And what he does for your offense
and what he can do to an opposing defense, what

(01:20:38):
he does for your quarterback one McCown, what he can
do for your team overall.

Speaker 8 (01:20:43):
Yeah, will He's been a great returner for us when
he was young and he developed into a really good receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Coming back from a knee injury.

Speaker 8 (01:20:50):
I don't think he'll be one hundred percent when the
season starts. We do think he'll be back to that
at some point, but he's moving around pretty good today.
I'm really proud of Willie. Got a daughter now and
uh doing a good job raising that girl.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
And really proud of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Will in Coy now at a bel air high And
it started off of the junior college home. That's something
else because you, uh, because of your background in East
Texas and in East Texas has always been a hotbed
of outstanding junior college football, whether it's Kilgore or Tyler
or wherever, uh, you know, Trinity Valley, wherever that is.
Are there still diamonds in the rough that come out

(01:21:30):
of the juco programs. Whereas everything because of social media
in the way it is now, everybody knows something about everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
It's hard to hide them. You can't just sneak them
out to your point anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:21:42):
But I think we're we've done really well because our
roster is now full of East Texas kids.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
I was a small town kid.

Speaker 8 (01:21:50):
Even when Charlie hired men to come to the University
of Texas. That's all of going to Austin. When you're
from Gilmour, it's pretty imposing. And if you're a city guy,
you don't understand that. But when you're a small town
kid like I was, I understand that. So you can
have conversations with Chris Boyd and Brandon Jones that the
city had some innitiate that you can have conversations with

(01:22:10):
Devin mcew and Owen McCowan obviously was from russ but
his dad played in the league, so he traveled the country.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
He knew all that that wouldn't be the case there
Will Henderson.

Speaker 8 (01:22:20):
Some guys on my roster that might not have, you know,
got out very much. And I know we've had success
with that. So you might not find divlands in the
rough anymore, Craig, but I think you can help help
that kid understand how to maneuver in the city when
they get down here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Toward that end, there's a couple of the guys I
want to ask you about, only because in doing the
state championship games, I got so used to calling their
names and they played at the same high school. On
the offensive side, David Amador and on and on your
defensive eyed Chad Side Shad Bangs coming in. How about
those two guys and what they can offer to your
group this year.

Speaker 8 (01:22:58):
Yeah, and I've got Tydle Leonard who also We've got
a nice little pipeline there with Joe Price obviously, so
East Side is very well represented on our roster. Those
kids are they know how to win. You know, they
played for Willie, they played for John k Uh, they
know how to win. They know how to run a program.
I thought you were going to say, we've got two
state champions for the same team, uh, in Brandon Tennyson

(01:23:21):
and Will Henderson from gilmurt That. Well, when I when
I when I got here, I had everybody stand up
and nobody on my roster had won a state championship
in football.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Uh, And that that just scared the heck out of me.

Speaker 8 (01:23:36):
So we really tried to attack the Texas high school
football players that have won state championships because culture matters.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Knowing how to win matters. Knowing how to win close
games matters.

Speaker 8 (01:23:47):
And the and the names you mentioned have been in
a lot of close games in front of a lot
of people, Uh, and pressure situations.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
You know, I've got a kid from Katie on my
team right now, John Steven, who's now for coach.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Joseph, I mean, you just can't get enough of those
kind of kids on your roster.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up because when Mac
Brown was coaching, he used to talk about how important
it was to him personally and to the coaching staff
overall to recruit young men. Obviously they need to fit
the need that you need for them to fit, but
also to recruit guys who had played for championships, who

(01:24:23):
had played fourteen fifteen, sixteen games in a season, and
that there's an intangible there that you might not have
even from a four star or a five star who
only got to play ten to eleven ball games on
that Is that something you firmly have believed in.

Speaker 8 (01:24:42):
Yeah, And it's just the mental toughness those kids have
from playing in so many big games. They're under pressure
from the time they're in kindergarten basically because they all
want to grow up and play at Katie. They all
want to play it north Shore, they all want to
play at SoC they all want to play at Duncanville,
they all want to play at Gilmer. So you're just
on Aledo. I've got an omatilma from Aledo right now.

(01:25:03):
You just want as many of those kids as you
Canada is so much more mentally tough.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
They just are used to pressure and uh.

Speaker 8 (01:25:12):
And trust me, Jarry Joseph Alan Metsel, those guys Alito
and north Shore, those guys who coach with anybody in
the country. And those kids are as well coach as
anybody when you get them in your program.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Before I let you go, I got to ask you
about your schedule, uh, because you start off there over
in the Braslas Valley and then and then Texas State,
and that's turned into a nice, nice little rivalry that
you've got working there between UTSA and Texas State, and
then the crosstown thing with an outstanding FCS program and
Incarnate were and then you got to go to a
future Pack twelve opponent, just as you have a future

(01:25:49):
Pack twelve opponent as a home in Texas State going
to Corylorada State. How about your thoughts on those non
conference games before you even get into American play.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Yeah, it's really awesome if you're a fan.

Speaker 8 (01:26:00):
There's a lot of Texas heavy connection there obviously, that's
going to A and M to start the season off.
What a great opportunity we have, you know, Michael COO's
got an unbelievable team, does a great job, and all
three of my kids, you know, graduating from there, so
that'll be you know, special for us to go down there,
and then to play Texas State, where my former quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
At GILMERT GJ. Kennedy is the head coach. A really
cool story.

Speaker 8 (01:26:21):
There between him and I basically like a son to me,
and he's done a great job turning that program around.
Then we got u I w you know, a little
local San Antonio ribery, and then we go to Colorado
State where I get to up my good buddy Jay
Norval who him and I were at the University of
Texas together and uh so really excited about all four.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Of those games.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Hey, I appreciate you taking the time. I know it's busy,
what would practice underway. I hope things are off to
a good start for you. I'm always following you very
keenly and closely as well, so I appreciate you taking
a few minutes to visit with us, and and we'll
check in with you during the course of the year
and uh, you know, birds up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Hope things go well for you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Craig. You've been first class since the moment I met you.

Speaker 8 (01:27:02):
I appreciate what you've done for Texas high school football and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
Just your voice.

Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
The games just matter more when we know Craig ways
calling them. Appreciate your friendship, God blessing, birds up.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Thank you, appreciate it. Jeff.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
All right, that is Jeff Trailer, head coach of the
UTSA Roadrunners, and like we said, winning his program in
the state of Texas since the turn of the decade
there in twenty twenty, coinciding with his arrival there in
San Antonio. All Right, coming up next, we'll hear more
from coach Sart talking about his team and coming off

(01:27:36):
that first practice and getting ready for the second practice,
which they are now well underwigh in when we continue,
I'm thirteen under the zone. Alright, Banks again to Jeff Trailor,

(01:28:05):
head coach of the UTSA Roadrunners, joining us on the program. Okay,
we've been giving away the copies of Dave Campbell's Texas
Football magazine through our talkback feature. Just to give you
an example of what that sounds like, here's a couple
of examples.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Of the out of the talkback feature.

Speaker 9 (01:28:24):
Out of Curiosity with Victory Plus taking on some of
the UIL games. I was wondering if Craig was still
going to have his scoreboard show and if that would
be on Victory Plus for the Friday night Scoreboard show.
Really enjoy that and hopefully that will be the case.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Thank you, all right? Who is that?

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
By the way, Marty McBride from wichitaal fault. All Right, Marty,
I appreciate it. Nice thoughts of you. You're kind of
partially correct on some of that. And I think this
up once, but it's worth bringing up again. I hate
to be the one reporting it, but it's kind of
seeped out over time anyway, that as far as I know, Marty,

(01:29:14):
there will be no Scoreboard show and it has nothing
to do with Victory Plus.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
That's a separate entity.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Remember the people who were producing High School Scoreboard Live,
and we started that show back in nineteen ninety six
on Fox Sports Southwest. I was in there hosting it solo,
I think for the first three years. Then Randy mcilvoy,
who's an outstanding sports broadcaster in Houston, sports anchor at KPRCTV,

(01:29:43):
He and I co hosted a couple of years, and
then I stepped away from it for three years to concentrate.
That was right when I slid over to the play
by play chair for Texas by the way, the former
play by play announcer for the Longhorns, and I had
dinner last night, Sony and I in Georgetown and our wives.
We had great We had a great time. And of

(01:30:03):
course Bill had just recently retired from doing the San
Antonio Spurs Saxon Club. After No, we didn't do that,
we were we just we went to a place on
right by the square in Georgetown, new place called Georgie's.
It was nice, but anyway, the that so I had

(01:30:25):
stepped away from the Scoreboard show for three years, I
came back, you know, four and did it all the
way through last year. So out of the twenty eight
years of that high School Scoreboard Live, I commuted up
to Dallas almost every Friday night for twenty five of
those twenty eight years. Loved it, enjoyed it, enjoyed working
with everybody that I worked with, Rick Renter, most notably

(01:30:51):
in recent years with Greg Tepper, the editor in chief
of Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine and Aaron Hartigan. We
had a great time, but we all kind of knew
that it was coming to an end. And the reason
is because FanDuel Sports Southwest was struggling to and it

(01:31:14):
wasn't so much FanDuel Southwest was, it was the parent
group for them. Diamond Sports was struggling to hold on
to its pro sports properties.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
The Rangers left.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Them, started their own network, The Stars left them and
they went to Victory Plus, the Mavericks left them and
set up their own package. The New Orleans Pelicans left
them as well. So I think all they have left
in the Southwest footprint are the Spurs, who pretty much

(01:31:43):
operate their deal out of San Antonio anyway, even though
it's still connected to and over the air on FanDuel
Sports Southwest and the Oklahoma City Thunder, your current NBA champions.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
And this has happened all across the country. And basically
what has happened is there has been a downsizing of
the fan duel networks. The one in Arizona's gone. The
Diamondbacks do their own thing with MLB TV producing theirs.
The Padres do their own thing with MLB TV producing it.

(01:32:17):
The Rockies do their own thing. So there were several
several teams in several different sports that were doing that,
and so there's been a downsizing of those networks.

Speaker 6 (01:32:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
While we finished.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
The season last year doing all the state championship games
and the Scoreboard Game Scoreboard Show, when we walked out
of those studios in Las Colinas last December, the day
after the state championships, we all kind of said goodbye
to one another. We knew we'd obviously see each other,
but we met in terms of that incarnation because we

(01:32:53):
just knew that in all probability the parent companies were
not going to continue with it. And I will tell
you this, Marty, it's been crickets from them ever since.
There has been no word whatsoever on doing a scoreboard show. Now,
as I mentioned, a different thing is Victory Plus, and

(01:33:14):
that's a completely different entity and they do. They produce
the Dallas Stars telecasts and the Anaheim Ducks. They stepped
in to earn the contract to televise the state championship
games and as a part of that, what Victory Plus
wanted to do was to add a Game of the Week.

(01:33:36):
Now this is streaming per Uil rules. There's no over
the air telecast of that. You know they're observing the rules.
They're all in the streaming category, but with no scoreboard show.
The folks at Victory Plus asked me if I wanted
to work with them on some regular season game and

(01:33:57):
primarily the state championship games like I've been doing sincenineteen
ninety five, and I have agreed to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
It doesn't affect anything I do here.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
This is day to day Monday through Friday and doing
the long Horn games and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
But I will do a handful of.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
High school game of the week Friday night streaming telecast
for Victory Plus. Don't know who the analyst will be yet,
They've not determined that yet. They just asked me if
I was interested in doing it, and you know, I
don't have a studio gig. I don't have a high
school scoreboard studio gig anymore. So I said, yeah, So

(01:34:34):
I'm going to do a game of the week on
like home game weekends for Texas. Obviously not when I
have to travel with the Longhorns, but I will do
most of it, and then I will do some playoff
games and I will do a handful of the state
championship games like I've been doing every year, seven or
eight of those.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
So that's where that is. And I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
When I was at coaching school, I can't tell you
the number of people came out of me and said, oh,
I enjoy the scoreboard showed you once. I didn't have
a hard to tell them that it was looking like
and I got more confirmation later, but it was looking
like it wasn't gonna happen. And I don't think it
is going to happen, all right, So there's one one
per Let's hear this other talk back.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Hey, Craignus Kyle from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 10 (01:35:14):
Been a longhorned fan since parents took me out penn
State fansa CM and the Fiesta Bowl in ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
I was eight years old at that time, and I
can't see him to win.

Speaker 10 (01:35:25):
He's Dave Campbell Magazine is really needs some I think
gets the time zone difference when I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
So I got a question for you.

Speaker 10 (01:35:32):
How many different numbers as Ricky Williams won get it wrong?
Maybe I can get me some of them magazines hook him?

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
How about if I get it right, and you still
get a magazine. How about that, Kyle, you did that,
You're going to get a magazine. It's an excellent question.
The answer is three, three different numbers. When he first
came in an he wore number eleven in the ninety
five and ninety six season. Ricky switched to jersey number
thirty four in nineteen ninety seven, but in ninety eight,

(01:36:01):
the Heisman Trophy season, when they played Oklahoma, he wore
Doak Walkers number thirty seven jersey to honor his memory.
Bak had just passed away, and Ricky had a monster
game in Texas bu and he goes on he wins
Heisman Trophy. So the correct answer is three, and I
have a feeling you probably knew that. So Kyle, we're
gonna get to you a magazine as well. So that's

(01:36:25):
that's good. That's well done, well done. You're you're a
good soldier for hanging out there and trying it all. Right,
Let's hear some more from Long Worn's head coach Steve Sarkisian.
This next thing is about Jonah Williams, And of course
Jonah's had that hamstring thing he had going all the

(01:36:45):
way back to baseball, and Sark was asked if it
was going to take Jonah a little bit of time
to get comfortable with the team and with football overall.

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
And have a setback on where he's at, and so
he was a little limited. He's had a great summer.
He's very smart. We see the athleticism, we see the
ball skills. He's going to be a really good player
for us.

Speaker 7 (01:37:05):
And the same with Cad.

Speaker 6 (01:37:07):
Cad just kind of tweaked his hamstring in the in
the middle of July. If this was game week, he'd
probably be out there. But again, I just don't feel
like I have to rush guys right now. We've got
a long runway to get ourselves ready to go. And
these guys have been practicing when you really think about
from from spring ball and then I think we had

(01:37:28):
I think we had sixteen, you know, PRP practices this summer.
So they've got a lot of practices done day one
install or if Caid's out a couple of days, we'll
be okay, you know, but those are really the only
two guys that are limited that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
With okay, all right, Next would be talking about Christian Clark,
because you know, a lot of conversation obviously about C. J.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Baxter and Trey Wisner.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
What about Christian Clark and what what does he bring
returning healthy?

Speaker 7 (01:37:55):
I'm science is amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
You know. My wife tore her achilles a couple of
years ago. I still know that they's healed, so but
for this guy to be playing football a year later
and running and cutting and and playing with such confidence,
like I don't. I don't think he even thinks anything
about the achilles anymore. I just think he's playing. But

(01:38:20):
he's got great balance and body control. He's got a
really strong lower half. He's got natural runner ability, you know,
and that's a hard thing to describe, but some of the.

Speaker 7 (01:38:30):
Things that runners do is very natural to him.

Speaker 6 (01:38:33):
The one cut ability, the contact balance, It's got very
good hands out of the backfield. So encouraged by him.
I was encouraged in spring. I'm more encouraged today just
of what he's done all so long to get ready. Yeah,
he's got big quads, man, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
I don't know what saquans are, but.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Chris's big quad muscles, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Okay, speaking of big guys, how about the battle going
on at right tackle? Most folks have assumed that Brandon
Baker is the guy who probably slots in there, but
Sark will tell you that there is indeed a battle
going on there well.

Speaker 6 (01:39:13):
Consistency, you know, I think one of the things at
tackle tackles like playing corner on defense. You know, you
can be a wow player at corner or at tackle
and have pancake blocks and all these things, but when
you make a mistake at those two positions, a lot

(01:39:34):
of times are catastrophic.

Speaker 8 (01:39:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:39:36):
You give up touchdown passes, and you give up sacks
sometimes sack fumbles, you know. And so I want to
see a level of consistency out of those guys at
right tackle for both those guys, you know, we're pushing
them to do is get out of their shell, get
out of their comfort zone, playing a little more nasty
if you want to be to be honest, and I

(01:39:56):
think we saw that today which was encouraging. We saw
those guys both feisty at times with the defensive players.

Speaker 7 (01:40:02):
But and Ethan Burke will do that to you, right,
Colin will do that to you. They'll prod you a
little bit. Uh might that might have been a little.

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
Intentional, but because we want to see how are they
got to respond, you know, when when the real fires going.
And I thought, you know, like I said, not in paths,
but I thought they responded pretty well today.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
And finally Emmett mostly the fifth you know him, the
wide receiver transfer from Stanford.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
How about his progress?

Speaker 7 (01:40:26):
Yeah, No, I thought he's done really well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
You know Editt.

Speaker 6 (01:40:30):
We knew him in high school from from San Margarita
and came from a really good high school program that ran.
I don't want to say they ran our offense, but
a lot of similar type concepts, and I think at
Stanford what they did he was more familiar with kind
of conceptually what we do here. You know, Matt was
coming from an air raid system, so this was totally

(01:40:51):
foreign to him and how things were called and and
and conceptually how we did things, and so it took
them a little bit longer.

Speaker 7 (01:40:58):
Obviously the result was the result.

Speaker 6 (01:41:01):
But I think for emmittt he's kind of a little
further down the runway just because of kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:41:06):
His past and the foundation that he has at a point.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
In the position, all right there it is Sark. That
was after the first practice. They're on the field right
now in practice number two, and you all have comments
on that late this afternoon, early this.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Evening, and then we'll have some of that for you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the
program here on thirteen under the Zone

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