Texas-Arkansas Preview, Texans Beat Buffalo, Area Round HSFB Playoff Matchups

Craig Way and Jake Herman preview the weekend in sports, including Texas' matchup with Arkansas at DKR, Area Round playoff games in high school football, and other news stories from around the NFL.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Are we happy it's Friday?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, certainly everybody who looks forth to the weekend, because
the weekend means the weekend to them. You know what
I always say, If Friday is truly the final day
of the work week for you, good on, You're good
for you. Hopefully you can enjoy these next two days.
I think the weather's going to be pretty nice. Actually
tomorrow may get a little rain to night, but be
okay tomorrow. For those of you for whom Friday is

(00:42):
merely the midway point of the week, hopefully we get
you over the hump, gets you downhill on that downhill
run to your weekend. And for those of you for whom,
well Friday happens to be the first day of the
work week, understand that hopefully we can get you through
today and get you off and going.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
We do welcome you to the program. Names Craig Way,
thanks so.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Much for joining us here on a long worn football Friday,
because there will be a game tomorrow with the Texas
Longhorns against the Arkansas Razorbacks. The producer of the program
is Jay Carmon. How did you pass the time on
your Thursday evening?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, I have a nice little Thursday routine of polishing
off my game prep with some football in the background.
So okay, I was going back and forth between a
great Thursday night game at NRG Stadium and a little
game on a channel called Victory Plus called by yours truly,
well yours no you Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Way, Yeah, yeah, right, it was a fun game to call.
That's a great place to call a game, by the way,
the Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. The sight
lines and you know how this is with us play
by play guys. We love good sight lines, we do,
and they're fabulous. You've never called a game in the Alamodome.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Have you?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, No, not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
For people who have been that have seen where the
broadcasters work up in the TV and the radio boosts
in the Alamodome, they're really good sidelines. These are a
lot like that, except even a little closer to the field.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
So it was good.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, And Highland Park is a good team and they
won their second round game with a big second half.
They were only up fourteen to ten and a half
on Frisco Redi and then scored thirty one unanswered in
the second half. They won forty five to ten. The
significance of this is from a local perspective. If the

(02:33):
Cedar Park Timberwolves can win their game tonight against Frisco
Wakeland in the second round of those five A Division
one playoffs, and that game's being played up in Hewitt,
there a Panther Stadium there in just south of Waco.
If Cedar Park wins, they get Highland Park next week.
That's just one of many interesting playoff matchups tonight. And

(02:55):
what went on last night, I don't know how many
of you stayed up, stayed patient and waited out until
Vandergriff could finish off its area round when thirty seven
to seven over brandeis because the game ended I think
a little after midnight there was They had a delayed

(03:18):
start due to weather, and then they had two weather delays.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
In the game.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Roger Wallace was texting me and I'd sent him the
final score and I was just getting ready to get
in the truck to drive back from the Ford Center
from the Star of there in Frisco, and I sent
him the final score and he said, you might beat
us back home. Unready, he said, we're in our second delay.
As it turnedout, it didn't, and a big part of
the reason it didn't. I ran into I'm here to

(03:43):
tell you arc stuff, Noah's flood stuff. I ran into
torrential sheets, torrents of rain coming down I thirty five,
specifically between Hillsboro and Waco. That was where it was
at its most intense. In fact, I rarely do this.

(04:05):
People who have ridden in the car with me know that,
you know, you know. Put my head down and I
drive forward. I go one in on whatever, and I'm
usually pretty good at navigating through precipitation, even heavy downpours.
I hadn't had one like this in a while. It
got so intense. There were two reasons that I decided

(04:27):
to pull over. One, I needed to put some cream
and sugar in my coffee that I just picked up.
I didn't want to do that while driving. Two, it
was very inclement, so I actually pulled in underneath like
an overhang for by gasoline pumps at a convenience store
that was closed. It was closed, but I just wanted

(04:49):
to get out of the rain, so I pulled in
underneath one of those pumps, and then underneath one of
the overhangs by a gas pump, and where it wasn't
raining on me.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
And then it was my sugar and cream and the.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Coffee, and and send a couple of texts while I
was parked, one of my wife and one to Roger
and say, hey, look I'm on my way back.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Blah blah blah. And that was that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
And then and then I, you know, put the hands
ten to two on the wheel and kind of white
knuckled it all the way. The rest down I thirty
five back of me. It was severe and it was
like that. It was off and on when I left
Frisco to come back down the Dallas North Tollway through
the Metroplex. But it the further south I went south,

(05:29):
I went the worst it got. Walks actually was starting
to pick up. By the time I got to Hillsboro,
it was really coming down. And then, like I said,
between Hillsboro and uh and Waco, it was West where
I had to pull over, the nice little town of
West It was so heavy. And what made it worse
was eighteen wheelers were kind of almost kind of convoyed together,

(05:50):
and so it's really hard to see.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And I thought, I'm not fighting this.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I'll pull over, get my coffee made up, and then
let them go on down. And then get back on
the road. So people who say I don't drive sensibly,
that's not true. It just takes the right kind of elements.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Anyway, it sounds like it was worse up on your
drive than we got here in Austin. It rained heavily
for a couple of hours, but it wasn't the kind
of stuff you're.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Describing right right exactly. I hadn't seen rain that heavy
in a while. It was something else. But anyway, we
press on. Here's what we've got on the program today.
We will hear from Demico Ryan's head coach of the
Houston Texans. They're rolling now, they're rolling. They won three
in a row. They're above five hundred for the first

(06:35):
time the season. More's the point. It beat a really
good team in the Buffalo Bills, who now are on
the stumble bus of late and there or struggle bus,
either one.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
They've dropped said to seven and four.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
The Texans are six and five, but they do hold
that tie break on the NFT end up pulling even
especially as they continue to try to get better in
the second half of the season. Dallas Cowboy, Dallas Cowboys
trying to do the same thing. What a huge challenge
they have on Sunday afternoon against Philadelphia Eagles. We'll hear
from Brian Schottneimer, their head coach. So we've got that.

(07:10):
We'll take a look at the full college football weekend.
In the four o'clock hour, we'll hear from Longhorns head
coach Steve Sarkeesian. This from last night's airing of Longhorn Weekly.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yesterday on the program, we brought you the first segment
of the program where Sark was wanting to make sure
to clarify, to clear the air on any of that
stuff about him casting a longing glance toward other college
football programs or NFL teams, and you know, categorically not

(07:44):
only denying it, refuting it, just and very very firm
in his response. It was similar to the to the
one he did on Wednesday, but that was done in
about a two and a half minute window.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
This was more extrapolated out over time.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
It was a little more comfort in fact, Jake, because
there was a technical glitch yesterday while that was going on.
Or were we in a position where we can re
air that. Do we have that hand where you can
lay your hands on it.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I won't be able to give up to Okay,
all right, not far away.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
All right.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I'll tell you what. When we come back from the break,
we'll do it and let you hear it. But the
other thing you'll hear in the four o'clock hour is Sark,
you know, back to the elements of game planning and
getting ready for the Arkansas Razorbacks. And it's another segment
of our Longhorn Weekly sit Down because we get him
for an hour exclusively to ourselves. So that's why we

(08:36):
like to, you know, repurpose the audio. Let you hear
hear it as well. If you miss the show in
its entirety last night, it re airs tonight at seven.
It is worth a listen because not just from hearing
Sark talk about things and talk about the Arkansas Razorbacks
and talk about his coaching future and all those kinds
of things. Not only that, we have guests, and one

(08:57):
of the guests is Michael Huff who's going into the
College Football Hall of Fame, and of course he was
a team captain and the Thorpe Award winner twenty years
ago on the two thousand and five national championship team.
We had a couple of segments with him really good stuff.
And then we visited with Cameron Dicker. Dicker the kicker
in town because the Chargers have their open date on
the schedule. So Cameron Dicker, who right now is the

(09:19):
number one all time percentage leader in field goals and
in kicks in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
We had him on for a couple of segments.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
So if you missed the program last night, it'll re
air again tonight at seven o'clock here on the Zone.
The whole program, but we always like to bring you
portions of it just so you can hear get a
sampling of what happens on the air.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
So we're going to do that.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
After the break, we'll let you hear from the reairing
of Stars Tank because it's a little more conversational. It's,
like I said, it's extrapolated out. It's longer than the
two and a half minute, you know, fired off rant
that he had on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
This is more measured and.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Methodical in his points as to why he felt it
necessary to come out. I saw a thing on ESPN
this morning and it was I think it was in
their College Football Live show and somebody I don't know
who it was, but I heard her voice, and she said.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Why's he's so sensitive?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's he's pretty sensitive about it because he doesn't want
people raiding his roster. That's why if he came across
as sounding sensitive, I thought he was pretty firm in
what he was laying out.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
And she was referring to.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
The the take he had on Wednesday on the SEC teleconference.
This is a little more conversational in how he arrived
at the decisions to decide to say the things he
needed to say.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
So we'll hear from Sark knowing them.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
This is a Friday, we do have inconceivable Jake, What
does Friday an inconceivable mean?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Does that mean a trip to where I think we're going?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, the most flaccid of the lower forty eight states.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I just wanted to hear you say it. To grab
the low hanging fruit that is Florida Man.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
We've got a couple of Florida Man items in addition
to some other items, so we'll get to that coming up.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
As always, we're more than.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Happy to take your questions, your thoughts, your comments on
our text line. You need only text us, text the program,
text the word Texas, follow by your question of comment
to eight one five to three zero, So text the
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Speaker 1 (11:43):
We will.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I didn't have a chance to get to everybody's text yesterday,
so I'll try to do a little make up on
that and get to some of those as well.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
We'll look at the NFL weekend to come.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
There's a lot in store, and yes previewing Texas men's
and women's basketball.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
They both head west, the man even further west.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
The women are going to Las Vegas next week for
a couple of days to play in a huge event.
The men also in the Maui invitation went more details
on that.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Glad you're with us.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
It is a Friday, and we know some people will
be out all next week.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Good for you. That's good. They can't whole Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Give thanks for being off all of next week, those
of you who are doing that and those who were
out of school as well.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
So good for you. All right, Friday afternoon, Glad to
have you.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
With us here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the
ozone in the IR radio app.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I see what you did there.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I worked an Ario Speedwagon concert or two in my time,
I did.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I did this right during this timeframe too early eighties.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
There heard it from a friend.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's how some of that rumor mill stuff started with
regard to long orange Head coach Tive Sarkeishan. But he
was very direct in how he refuted those statements. And again,
like he said, I think the local TVs and even
the national networks like ESPN and several of the other ones,

(13:08):
excuse me played.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
That sound bite.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well it's not a sound bite, it's it was like
two and a half minutes long of sort, you know,
refuting the reports and taking issue with those who had
reported that he was thinking about other jobs that happened

(13:35):
during the middle. It actually happened very early in the
afternoon on Wednesday, because what times you go twelve thirty,
I think on his on the SEC teleconference, that's when
he did it.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
He did it right out of gate.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Then later in the day I went over to campus
to record Longhorn Weekly with Sark, And of course obviously
I'd already heard what he said on the SEC teleconference
because we aired it, so I wasn't sure if he
just wanted to move on or if he felt the

(14:11):
need He said no, if it's okay by you, I'd
like to open the show by saying some stuff because
the teleconference for media is one thing, reaching out to
Longhorn Nation on my own show is something different. You're
exactly right, so you have the floor. So this is
again we aired it yesterday, but there was a technical

(14:33):
glitch at one point, so there was a chunk of
it that you didn't get to hear. So here it
is in its entirety from last night's hearing of Longhorn Weekly.
The programmer years tonight, but this is start going into
greater detail about why he chose this time to comment
on all of this before.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
We get started.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I know you kind of had something that you felt
important to say, and I wanted to give you the
floor and let you speak to Longhorn Nation and anybody
else who's wanting to listen to this.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah, I felt like I had to get a few
things off my chest h on our on our SEC
conference call, and part of it was you know, and
it's and I get it. We're in this day and
age of a college football has become such a business,
and there's been a lot of coaches getting moved in
a lot of schools creating opportunities and coaches moving and

(15:23):
contemplating taking new jobs and things, and my name had
been kind of thrown into this hat without me even
knowing that my name had been thrown into the hat.
And so I wanted to kind of clear the air
earlier about Hey, I'm not going anywhere, and part of
that not going anywhere, and that's I guess an easy
thing to say was that I've never had a discussion

(15:44):
with anybody about even going anywhere, whether it be CDC
and the university, whether it was you know, CA and
Jimmy Sexton, my agency, whether it be with another university
or another university's representatives, whether it be an NFL team.
But somehow, you know, some of the pundits out there
can kind of throw that out there. And we also

(16:05):
live in a time in society to where if somebody
you know, pushes send on Twitter or on somewhere on
social media, that well, it must be true because this
person said that. And so I wanted to be very
clear and adamant about a I'm not going anywhere, but
be I also want to talk a little bit about
why why am I not going anywhere? You know, when

(16:26):
we when we came here and we took this job
at the University of Texas. I had turned down numerous
head coaching jobs to take this job.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Why did I want this job?

Speaker 6 (16:34):
I think this is the premier job in America when
it comes to coaching football. At this level. We have
an amazing resource base. We have unbelievable leadership at this university.
We can recruit the best, very best players in the
country to an academic institution. And to me, I said,
I point out there because I see downtown Austin right

(16:55):
there in the one of the most beautiful, greatest cities
in America. And so for my wife and I and
for our family, this is our home. I've got two
kids that go to the University of Texas. My daughter's
in the law school right now that I don't know
if many people know that my son is on the team.
We just welcomed a son seven months ago, that this
is his home. And my daughter, who is deciding where

(17:18):
to go to school next year. I have a pretty
good I think hopes and chance that she's going to
call this where she wants to go to school. To
think that I'm going to have all four of my
children here in Austin going to the University of Texas.
We've built a program to where we started from five
to seven to Big twelve champs, to two time College
Football Playoff appearances too semi final appearances, to a team

(17:40):
that's battling its tailoff right now, to try to find
a way back in this year to how young we
are as one of the youngest football teams in the country,
of how good we're going to be in the future,
Like it can't get better than what I got. And
so the idea that men we're speculating on what might occur,
speculate on my two feet on the ground Austin, Texas

(18:01):
and me putting the burn orange and white on every
day us building a program that is going to be
sustainable for years to come. As I said time and
time again, I don't ever want to build a one
hit wonder. One year we're good, the next year we're not,
and build something sustainable. And so I'm pumped at who
I get to work with every day. Our staff, are players,

(18:21):
everybody in the North End zone starting with CDC, our donors,
the support we get.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
So I just want to be really clear to.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Everybody out there, like hook them horns like this is
where I want to be. We are not going anywhere,
and forever grateful and thankful for all that do support
what we do every day. And this is not a
one man show, and it takes a lot of people
to get done what we want to get done every
single day, and from the people on the forty acres
to people on the outside that support the program, forever

(18:48):
grateful for them. And so we got a lot more
games to go win, We got more trophies to put
up here in not only the South end zone but
in the North end zone. So uh, hopefully that can
kind of calm the waters. And again that doesn't mean
a pundit out there is not going to say something,
but let's make sure if they say something, just come

(19:10):
ask me.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Come as CDC.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
We don't have to flame that fire every time somebody
says something that. Let's let's uh, let's focus on what
we can do here to to continue to build this program.
Because the other side of this to Craig, I'll say this,
other programs will say things like this to weaponize this
to a hurt us in recruiting, to be hurt us

(19:33):
in the transfer portal, which clearly you know there's some
areas where we need to go. We need to attack
the transfer portal and see recruit our roster because all
of our players are free agents too, and so we
have to be careful not weaponizing ourselves to where people
can can use this against us.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
And so there's a lot of aspects to this.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
I was hopeful what I said after the Mississippi State
game would was going to be sufficed. Clearly it wasn't,
and so I want wanted to find that platform today
that not only would get the attention of our local
people that cover us and do a great job of
covering Texas football, but also the national media. And so

(20:14):
I wanted to be very matter of fact and franked
and to the point, but also let people understand why.
And you don't have as much time on that teleconference
as I might have right here on my own radio show,
so to get on my soapbox here a little bit.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I think it was important. I think it was important
for our own team.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
I don't want, ever want to be a distraction to
our team, and that's why I don't talk about it
as much, but I felt like at this moment it
was necessary. I think our players appreciated it because I
talked to them after practice today that they knew exactly
where I stood, and hopefully Longhorn Nation understands exactly where
we stand now as well.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, and that's that's where it was going next. You think,
because of the whatever instant gratification society we live in,
the rush to be first with any sort of news,
real or imagined, that sort of thing. That and this
I think is the most disappointing part of it is
that there were two national media members. This wasn't like

(21:12):
a local writer or anything like. This was from a
national perspective with someone running with, as you mentioned, unsubstantiated
rumor and no basis to any of that. And so
does that actually really intensify the need to make sure
that Longhorn Nation knows of your situs your point?

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I think that's the part that's critical, right, It's somebody
insinuating what might occur. You know, the one guy was
taking his trash out, and you know, I have this
random thought, what if I think Texas job?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Like?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Really, what are we talking about?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
And so, you know, Longhorn Nation has been too good
to us, been too good to me but I also
know this is a polarizing brand. Sure, you know this
is a very polarizing brand, you know. And you talked
about the Yankees, the Lakers, the Dodgers, and some of
the professional that the Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys star. Those
are polarizing brands in the professional sport world. And there's

(22:10):
a reason when you turn on any show in the morning,
they're talking you know, you know, the NFL, the Cowboys
are probably in the first second, third conversation they talk
about the NBA, they're probably talking about the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
First second conversation. You bring up Major League Baseball, it's
the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
It is what you bring up college football, they're gonna
talk about the Texas Longhorns. And so part of that
is that, right, do you can get some clicks, You
can get some attention by bringing us up.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
But to be sure to know, for Longhorn.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Nation, like we're good, we're here, right, And there's never
been a thought or a talk of going somewhere else.
And so I know in years past, I feel like
I've kind of brushed it on the run because why
would I go anywhere else?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Right?

Speaker 6 (22:48):
But I felt like in this moment it was needed
to kind of ease and calm the waters a little
bit of where we're at.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
What's it also important even going as far as contacting
some of your recruits out there to say, hey, I'm here,
I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Never mind contacting our recruits, contacting our players when other
schools are already contacting players on our team as we're
in the midst of playing right now. But that's the
world of college football we're in right now. But to
be reaching out to players on our team that hey,
Sarks leaving, he's doing that. Hold on a minute, No,
I'm not. No, I'm not so so stop kind of
bringing those types of things up. And again, are we

(23:24):
probably going to have a few players on our team
decide to transfer. Sure, that's the nature of the of
the of the temperature in college football today. But I
surely don't want a kid thinking about leaving because he
thinks his head coach is leaving. So hey, if you
might leave because of another reason, that's that's okay, But
don't do it because you think I'm leaving. I'm not
going anywhere, baby. This is where I show up every

(23:44):
day at six thirty in the morning.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I take it all your players were happy with that.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I think so. I think so.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
I Like I said, I think everybody kind of there
was a little sigh of relief of kind of the
direction and where we're headed as a program. And again,
I don't like to do that because I think the
moment I start talking about me, then it's about me.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
But I felt like this was not about me.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
This was about our program and the state of the
program and where we're headed as we continue to grow
into the future.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
All Right, there it is laid out there in pretty
plain and simple terms by Longhorn's.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Head coach, Steve Sarkisian.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
So it's he laid that out and then we'll go
back to talking to football with him. Later on you'll
hear him talk about the Arkansas Razorbacks. Second hour of

(24:44):
the program here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone,
Craig Way with you alongside the producer Jay Carman. Jake's
got a big game tomorrow afternoon area around the five
A Division two playoffs, the bass Drop Bears against Waco
University Trojans Maroon in white against purple and white.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, I mean so many, so much talent on the
field and two schools that have wanted to play on
Thanksgiving weekend for a long time, and one of them
is gonna have the opportunity to do that.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Quick question. Most celebrated athlete ever to come out of Waco.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
You what's the answer, Ladanian? Tomlinson? Wow?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, he was from Waco University, LT had a great
career TCU and then played in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
We got a running back. They've got a running back
now they call d T Darius Thomas.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Okay, there you go. I won't make the comparison.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Probably good idea. A couple of items to get to now.
Coming up in a few minutes, we'll hear from the
head coach of the Houston Texans. That's Taminko Ryans. Do
we have the locker room stuff again that we do?
That's great always he's.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Always great in the locker room.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
So we'll hear from him about that Texans rolling out.
They've won three in a row. They're about five hundred. Still,
what's the odds to get in? It's probably still in
the single digits.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
No, no, no, it's no.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's better than that spiked up because of the win
because it was like what eight percent.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
The other day? Right now, you know what it is, Craig,
What is it fifty?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
How about that? That's what one win over another playoff
contender can do for you. It's a good point.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
And a Chiefs loss last week and.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
The Chiefs loss last week, so well, we'll keep an
eye on that. We'll look at some of the other
games in the NFL and what those percentages are and
stuff like that for some of the other teams, including
the Dallas Cowboys, who have a tough matchup with the
Philadelphia Eagles. But if they find a way, it gets
them the five hundred at five to five and one,

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and at least puts them on the periphery of it
if they're able to get the win. So college football notes,
remember the business earlier in the week about Brian Kelly
suing LSU for firing him, saying he never really was

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notified officially that he was being terminated.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
But how could they do that, Craig, He hasn't even
won all his games yet.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, right, So today Mark Sleighball, who covers college football
so closely for ESPN, had a story where he said
the LSU Board of Supervisors authorized new university president Willen
Russ a Rousse to send Tigers former Tigers head coach

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Brian Kelly a formal notice of termination during a meeting today.
According to the Bataner's Advocate, the move, which is the
university's first action since Kelly sued the board of supervisors
on November tenth, was discuss during a closed door executive session.
According to the advocate, LSU board member John Carmouche asked
the board to authors who say to quote, in consultation

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with general counsel to review and if appropriate, send Brian
Kelly written noticed the termination under his employment agreement end quote.
The request was passed without objection. In the lawsuit, which
was filed in the nineteenth Judicial District Court in Battaners,
Kelly's attorneys alleged that LSU officials notified the coach that

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it was seeking to fire him with cause to avoid
paying his fifty four million dollar buyout. The lawsuit is
asking the Louisiana State Judge for a declicatory judgment that
Kelly was terminated without cause and therefore is owed his
full buyout. The lawsuit also alleged that LSU claims that
former athletic directors Scott Woodward didn't have the authority to

(28:44):
fire Kelly Boy Scott Woodward was getting beat up on
both sides Indy, both by Kelly's attorneys and then by
the other side that fired him. There, the lawsuit says,
quote LSU has never claimed that coach Kelly was terminated
for cause, and prior to November tenth, twenty twenty five,
never asserted that he engaged in any conduct that would
warrant such a termination. To the contrary, LSU repeatedly confirmed

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both publicly and coach Kelly that the termination was due
to the team's performance, not for cause. The lawsuit said
Kelly had previously rejected lump some offers of twenty five
million and thirty million from LSU, and on October twenty ninth,
Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry criticized Woodward. That's what I was
talking about for agreeing to such a one sided deal
with Kelly.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Remember the quote.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I can tell you right now it is Scott Woodward's
not selecting our next coach. We're not going down a
failed path. And I want to tell you something, this
is a pattern.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
We've got a fifty three million out of liability. We're
not doing that again. And you know what, I believe
we're going to find a great coach. Woodward resigned the
next day. Verge Awsbury, LSU longtime administrator, voted promoted to
replace him. So there are people still feeling that Lane
Kiffin is the object of the search. Florida is also

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wooing him. He's scheduled to meet with Ole miss Athleted
Director Keith Carter about his future in Oxford, Mississippi, on
Friday today. All right, there's a couple of things in
play here. First of all, this is what I would
like to know. I don't know if others feel the
same way. They might not, might be similarly similarly inclined.
But inquiring minds want to know if they fired him

(30:18):
for calls, what was the cause, Because wins and losses
are not for cause. That's for the performance and the
job description. But that is not firing for cause, like
something done wrong or indecent or outside the boundaries of
what he's contracted to do.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
And outside of all these reports Craig of Kelly maybe
rubbing people the wrong way or maybe abdicating some responsibilities
over the summer in recruiting. I don't know how much
truth there is that, but it's being reported by a
number of other shows.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, so the question is how does that go into
fire being fired for cause?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know how they're going to argue that.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, That's what I'm wondering. And don't get me wrong,
I'm not a fan of Brian Kelly. He can be
a real horses ass sometimes I'm not. I'm not I'm
not taking I'm just curious. I'm wanting to know from
the L s U side, what does for cause mean?
We know why Chris Beard was fired for cause at Texas,
everybody knows that, we know why other coaches were fired

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for cause. What's Brian Kelly done to be fired for cause?
That's what I would want to know.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
And are they arguing it retroactively saying well, no, no, no,
you weren't actually fired and then you left.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, that that part kind of makes it weird.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's shady. Two.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
That's the opposite of George Costanzas still showing up at
work Autry's been fired, still showing up every day in
less than an hour's time.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
The other thing I was going to say the other day.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
At least in this town, and probably it's the large
measure in a lot of State of Texas that SEC
teleconference kind of zero did on Sarks. You know, his
his words, his his take, his statement that he had.
This is only kind of started to seep through in

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the last twenty four to forty eight hours. Did you
hear what Lane Kiffin did on his Do you hear
any of that?

Speaker 4 (32:18):
He said?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I heard how he ended it? Yeah, looking forward to
next week? Yeah, but he basically dodged every question about
his future day.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And kind of stammered and stuttered about it. Are you
going to be the coach next week? And I don't
even know what that means?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
He ran out the clock on it is what you're saying. Yeah, Yeah,
well I don't I don't know what I don't. I
don't know what you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
What would you consider another job that would keep you
from doing this? I'm I'm not sure where this is coming.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
From, what's coming from the guy asking the question?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
So if you listened to it, it was a real
uncomfortable vibe, is what it was.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
And Lane Kiffen can make the vibe whatever he wants
to make it. He's a master of manipulation of the media.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, So, oh is that on purpose or is that
genuine and we'll see.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Well, here's the thing. If he says he's really in
a tough spot for a guy.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Who's making tens of millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
If he says, I like to keep my options open,
so I'm here as far as I can tell you
to coach. The rest of the seat, he was saying
things like, well, have you guys heard it? I've been fired?
Is that why you're asking this question? Have I been fired?
And I don't know that?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Come on, so.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
You know, I would understand if he said, but you
can't can't really do it this day because of the
way it's going to be then portrayed and or twisted
or whatever manipulated. If he just said, I live in
the moment right now here in late November. I'm the
coach of the LSU excuse me, the that's forty and

(33:53):
slip there. I'm the coach of the ole Miss Rebels.
I aim to continue to be the ole miss head
coach of the almost Rebels the rest of the season
and the seasons to come. But I cannot predict the future.
I will not say something to you and then may
be made to look like a liar later if something,
if circumstances did change, I'm here to tell you that

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right now, I'm not seeing those circumstances. But if he
said that they would way, he's just left the door
open and blah blah blah. So in other words, he's
kind of and I can't win situation. Even if he
said I'm not going anywhere, there are a lot of
people won't buy it because another head coach said that
this week, and there's still people out there going ay,
he's posturing it, even though he categorically emphatically said I'm

(34:37):
not going anywhere. I'm the coach at the University of
Texas and wife and kids are have a son playing
on the football team. We've been in the playoff last
two years. We're trying to get back to the deal.
I'm not going anywhere. Not to believe it, and he
knows that too. He said, people still going.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
To believe it. They want to believe you know.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's whatever, but he felt it important to say it
because of his football team and as a notice to
other people out there might be trying to poach guys
off his roster or poach players into the portal. To
say I'm not going anywhere he felt it important to
do that.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
What do you make of the reports of ole Miss
in the midst of this kind of you know, setting
up this meeting and saying, Laane, we need you to decide.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, what's happening. Listen.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
There's old saying is is that you don't go into
a barroom holding a gun unless it's got bullets in it,
So you better be prepared for the answer. Did you
ever see the first Batman movie, the one with Jack
Nicholson as the Joker?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
No? I came up on the Nolan Batman movie.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Okay, okay, and those are better, far better. But the
one with Jack Nicholson does a much more comical version
of the Joker. It's not nearly as demented and sick
and twisted obviously as the later Jokers that we saw.
But he he uh is a guy gets mad at

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him and he pulls a gun, starts to pull and
he pulls one and the point of each other he goes,
better be sure. So my point is ole Miss better
be prepared to accept the answer that he's leaving if
they're going to force him to ultimatum. I understand where

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they are. What that tells me is, and I'm not
really that surprised by a given Lane Kiffen's personality and
character and all that sort of stuff. They're in a
tough spot. It tells me that he doesn't have that
great a relationship with his athletic director because his athletic

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director can take him beside. Said, look, man, I know
people are coming at you can at least give me
some fall on this. Do I need to start looking
for somebody? Do it behind the scenes, don't make a
public declaration of Hell, we've got to know. And then
everybody said, was on, I's giving him an ultimatum. You
give somebody an ultimatum, you better be prepared to accept either.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Answer on that. So, yeah, I'm with it.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
That's a tough spot to be in on both sides,
but especially Ole miss all right, coming up, we'll hear
from Demico, Ryan's talking about that big win for the
Texans last name when we continue on a Friday afternoon
yere on thirteen under the Zone in the iHeartRadio app
here on Friday after dinning this whole say Goodbye of

(37:44):
Hollywood thing. Billy Joel was moving from California back to
New York. He played out in La did some recording sessions.
That's where he came up with piano man in a
little bar called I think it was called the Troubadour
Lounge that he did it in and but he was
sick of La. Is you ready to get back to
New York? So this was.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
On the Turnstiles album right there for him and.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Which was moderately successful, but it took the next album,
The Stranger, to be able to explode him on to
the stage. Somebody asked me about a week ago, I
think it was they said, what is your favorite rock
album of all time? That's a hard, hard thing to

(38:32):
answer favorite, And I think there's three that pretty much
tie for my favorite, and none of them are Beatles albums,
and I'm a huge Beatles fan. It'd be just a
tear below that might be Abbey Road or Rubber Soul
for the Beatles, but probably the three that just resonate

(38:56):
with me the most. Out of the Blue from Electric
Light or Because So it's a double album.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's a great.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Album, Asia Steely Dan, tremendous album. It's one of these albums,
you know, whenever you think about what your favorite album
should be, a lot of times it should be where almost,
if not one hundred percent, almost every cut is a
is a good song and you really like it, and
that's how a lot of the Band on the Run

(39:23):
Paul McCartney and Wings, that's one like that. But the
Stranger from Billy Joel might be number one for me
all the time. That's right there with like I said,
Asia from Steely Dan, Band on the Run from Wings
Paul McCartney and Wings, and Out of the Blue from Eyelo.
It's a double album, so there's a couple other tracks
on it that are like, yeah, yeah, they're okay, but

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there's a lot of really really good ones like turn
the Stone and Mister Blue Sky.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
You know, there's ones on there that are really really good.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Anyway, so it's Friday afternoon, all right, Well, it's definitely
Mister Blue Sky. For the Houston Texans, they have to
be feeling very very good about themselves now on a
bit of a roll. They've won three in a row,
six and five, and would you say their playoff probabilities
now have risen a fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's per NFL's next Gen stats, fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Okay, where do they have the Cowboys right now? By
the way, the Cowboys. Do you want to guess it?
Eight percent?

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Seven? Oh, okay, all right, Now if they beat.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
The Eagles eleven okay, all right, still got a ways
to go, and some of that's because of the even
nature of other teams in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
So Carolina's win did not help.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yep, that's right, because Carolina beat the Cowboys. They owned
that head to head there. All right, let's hear from Dimico.
Ryan's first wrong in the locker room. We always like
to play the locker room audium there because it's pretty animated.
Here's the coach of the Texans.

Speaker 8 (40:49):
Way, anybody excited about that one? I'm far of man.
How standing time about you got may We knew what
time it was.

Speaker 9 (40:57):
We needed to go hunt. We need to play complimentary
foot ball. You got did exactly that, all right?

Speaker 8 (41:02):
Old line? First off, out standing jo hold line. All right,
we want to run the ball.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
We did that out standing job.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
Ran a four hundred quarterback, didn't get sacked. That all
gray job, ray, old line, ray job. And on the
flip side of.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
That D line, we knew we needed to dominate the
line of scrimming D line.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Eight sacks.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
Got two balls here and both guys had to a
piece today.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
We got Wheel represented for the on line up.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
We got no line yeah, Trent, Hey guys, and we
talked about man. We talked about we were going on
a hunting all right, and this one guy he hunted.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
All night.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Right.

Speaker 9 (41:50):
We talked about dno did our standing joll talking about
how we need to take the ball and how that
changed the game.

Speaker 8 (41:56):
We got a.

Speaker 9 (41:56):
Guy right now who took it away three times, three times, right, man,
best game?

Speaker 7 (42:03):
I see Caitlyn come on that. Hell hey man, hey, hey.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
We were plus three in the turn on about it.
You took three.

Speaker 7 (42:20):
Man.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
It doesn't get any better than that.

Speaker 9 (42:22):
Wait to show up, Wait to show out, Wait to
show the world whether Houston Texas football is all about it? Right,
Davis again, I'll stand the job of leading us, man.

Speaker 8 (42:30):
I'll stand the job of leaeve. Hey, love you going man,
Love you guys.

Speaker 9 (42:35):
Wait to work, man, now, get a breathing, time to
get time to rest a little bit.

Speaker 8 (42:41):
I see you guys on.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Monday, giving them all the rest of the weekend. There,
So there you go. Nice uh, big win for the Texans.
There are no doubt about it. I didn't start Davis
Mills on my fantasy team. He had modest game for
fantasy numbers.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
It's modest.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I think I can get a big performance out of
Indiana Jones against at Kansas City defense.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
You're probably right, just because of the rushing piece of it.
And yeah, Davis Mills did didn't start that game. Well,
it was because the Bills got a lot of pressure
on him early. I know you were on the call
at the Star, but he was able to settle in
and Houston had a couple of key red zone touchdown
passes from Mills late.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I thought he was really good in that game. Yeah, yeah,
really managed it well.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
In the press conference afterwards, Ryan's asked about Buffalo's fourth
down conversion and how his defense responded.

Speaker 10 (43:35):
Yeah, with the fourth down conversion that they made is
really is not surprising.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
That's why.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
I mean, they've had it. Josh has done that several
times this year. Actually, So you know, again, kids a
good player. They made a play on us. And but
the thing about it is our guys, you know, we
don't waiver. We knew what we were defending and we
didn't waiver. Guys can go in the tank. But the
game isn't over. It just because they make one play.
That's not the end of the game. We're still out there.

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We're still battling. And our guys showed right there how
we finish it with Kaylin and and with the interception.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, it was what a fourth and twenty seven hooking
ladder where they did that, which, by the way, that
the term is hook and ladder from fire company, where
you extend the ladder out.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I know some folks say hook and lateral.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I was told by a football official long time ago,
there's no such mathematical thing in football.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
It's a hook as a lateral is what are you
talking about? They do it all the time.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I said, no, No, lateral is ninety degrees straight across.
No play is the ball ever going straight ninety It's
either a forward pass or it's a backward path.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
I got corrected on that at my last job, so
maybe I was right.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
That's why my play by play gig up in Bisbar,
North Dakota. I never told you that up North Dakota.
That's why they're in North Dakota. I mean, that's increat
And I asked another.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Football official about it. They said, that is correct. That's
why they say it's a forward pass or a backward pass.
There's no such thing. Now, you know, we can kind
of stretch a little bit say it's a lateral. Sark
even said at the other night talking about the Reggie
Bush play in the Rose Bawl, when we have Michael hoffon,
he's the lateral.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
It's actually a backward.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Pass by official definition and terminology, it's a backward pass,
which means it's a live ball if it hits the ground,
as opposed to a forward pass. If it hits the ground,
it's it didn't complete it. That's to delineate the two,
and lateral comes across as a nebulous term according to
the officials.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Anyway, that's what they told me. Anyway, I trust them.
I've gone away from calling it a lateral.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I call it a backward pass or a forward passes
result of that, anyway, this defense playing so well of
late and Ryan's was that what's allowing this defense to
play at such an elite level.

Speaker 10 (45:42):
Yeah, the defense is playing outstanding that It's not just
about the defense. I think Tommy has set us up
really well with some of the punts. He's had to
put teams in a backed up territory. Our kickoff team,
they've covered well and they put guys by you know,
minus twenty, so we've had some favorable field position. Is
just collectively as a team, like everybody working together. Our

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guys are doing a good job of getting off on
third down, which it limits the amount of plays that
you're playing. And then just credit goes to first and
foremost our defensive line, like for the way they go out,
the way those guys relentlessly rush the passer and everybody
on the back ends playing sound and playing together. When
we do that, we're tough to move the ball again,

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so our players are doing an outstanding job all right.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Then he was asked how his offensive line has had
some much success protecting Davis Mills in the game.

Speaker 10 (46:35):
On our offensive line and they wanted to recognize them
with the game ball because they did a great job
of We knew we needed to control the line of scrimmage.
I thought we ran the ball okay, but most importantly
we protected the quarterback. Like we didn't allow any sacks
on the quarterback and only allow one TfL. So just overall,
you know, for that unit to come together and play

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the way they played on a short week, you.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Know, hats off to those guys.

Speaker 10 (47:00):
Cole is doing a great job of those guys getting
got ed bag moved tight is over still a lot
of moving pieces and the guy still played really well together.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
All right.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Now, You heard Jake mentioned the slow start for Davis
Mills in Ryan's estimation. How did Mills overcome that slow start?

Speaker 10 (47:15):
Yeah, Davis has been you know, he's been phenomenal for
us these past couple of weeks. You know, coming in
especially on a short week, you know, not getting a
ton of full speed reps, the timing of throwing the
football that has affected a little bit. And I thought
he weathered the storm and he handled himself well. You know,
even though we had some passes there we would like
to connect on, you know, he still stayed steady, still

(47:35):
stay calm as he always does, keeping everybody else calm,
you know, on the sideline and did a great job there.
And the two minute drive before the half, thought that
was outstanding drive by him, Like finding the completions when
it counted, making the plays, driving us down to get points.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
That was that was huge for us.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
And on a day when and evening where there were
so many defensive highlights, who or what really stood out
to him.

Speaker 10 (47:59):
The thing that stood out to me, I mean the
way our d line hunted. Of course that was great,
but Kaylen Bullock it's the guy for me. The way
Kayln went out, I mean, intercepted the ball two times,
you know, force fumble to get us in a plus
territory there.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
So my favorite play is the one that ended it.

Speaker 10 (48:17):
There's a lot of emotions going on on the sideline
through that entire drive or for Kayln to come down
with that interception, that was my favorite play because it
meant it was over.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, to do it.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
And finally he's been tell me if we could just
get back to five hundred and get over the mark.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Well now for the first time this season.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Remember they started owing three and they've gone six and
two cents. How good does it feel to be about
the five hundred mark.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
It makes me feel really good that we won the game.

Speaker 10 (48:47):
I guess it was a really really great team. Buffalo
did an outstanding job. You know, those guys are well coached,
great players. So for me, I'm just thankful for us
being able to get the win versus a really good,
really good team.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
And there you have it, and the Texans in getting
this huge win for them.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
It is huge when one considers what they have to
do to try to get over the hump and stay
in playoff contention. And the next one for them is
on the road, and it's another huge game. It's at Indianapolis.
It's a division game. And while the odds are not
good that they can catch the Colts after all, right

(49:33):
now they're a solid two and a half games back,
three back in the lost column. We'll see what happens
with Indianapolis and Kansas City on Sunday. One off, the
Colts would draw them to within a game, but they
got the Jaguars in between them two. Now the Jags
are six and four, the Texans are now six and five,
and the Jaguars have to concentrate on their own work

(49:54):
this weekend, and that'll be on the road for Jacksonville Arizona.
So Arizona, of course, really really struggling, but a very
winnable game there for the Jags as well. Okay, we've
got some other notes to get to from the NFL
and college football when we continue on thirteen.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Under the zone of the ir Radio Act, continue on
this Friday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
There was one there was a text that we got
in on the text, and I don't know how I
missed this from the other day, and I apologize for that.
So I'm reading right now and respond to it, said
Stark starts his press conference. That wasn't the press commany.
This came on Wednesday, so it was He's referring to
the SEC teleconference by.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Saying he didn't want to be a distraction.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
His entire rant about the rumors was solely to distract
from his team's poor offensive production and poor play calling.
Funny how he didn't rant after the first report about
him leaving. Guess he's feeling the pressure Booster's fans radio
talking against former ut players claim vent and relinquish play
calling duties. This take is this rife within corrections. First

(51:12):
of all, he did rant on the first report about
him leaving. Did you not hear it? After the Mississippi
State thing. First thing he did was he had his
representatives as agents flatly deny and you never hear agents do.
And then he got in there. I think he used
the words this is what pisces me off. I think
is what the words he used. And he went on
and on about it being completely unsubstantiate. That was the

(51:35):
Diana Rassini report that happened in Starkville, and in fact,
when we played the thing in the first hour, he said,
I thought I already addressed that when it was in Starkville,
So yes, he did rant after that.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Second.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
What he's referring to is not wanting to be a
distraction to his team. He wanted his team and he
finally felt he had to speak out and do something.
So that's to keep that the whole point of this deal.
If I can just try to make this clear to people,
the whole point is he's protecting the guys on his roster.

(52:13):
He doesn't want vultures out there saying, hey, you know
he's gonna leave.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
He's gonna leave when.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
There's flat out lies about it. So that's why he's
doing it. And he hasn't dodged anything about the team
underachieving on offense. That's what that news conference on Monday is,
we break it down. It goes into an incredible detail
what they're not doing right. So the only thing I
can offer to you is listen closely. You'll hear him

(52:41):
say all of that stuff and how disappointed they are
in doing all that. And he isn't feeling any pressure.
Trust me, boosters and fans and radio talking. It isn't
listen to any of that stuff. It's trust me, he's
not listening to that. Trust me.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
He's not planning to relinquish play calling duties. He's not.
So I just want to make sure to get that clear.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Seve Pal said, I remember that first Batman movie that
it was good.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
It was it was different.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
You know, that's the one with Michael Keaton, I believe,
and uh and Jack Nicholson's joker character was good.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
It was really good.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, I was looking. I was looking some of that
up during the break it is. You're right, it is
a goofy R performance one.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's there was a lot of that's where
does he get those wonderful toys?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
You hear him say that he had some great lines
Dag Nicholson in that movie Ever Dance with the Devil
in the Pale moon Light. It's another one he had there. Anyway, Uh,
it was good.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Some other college football notes to uh get to on
this now. Now we're starting to see more a little
more about those guys up in Denton and their stories
now on the national things about North Texas about their
quarterback Drew mess to Maker, who of course is from

(54:17):
vandergriff where he was not the starting Lots of it
made about that about he wasn't the starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
It's because he was. He was.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
He was the starting safety and he was the punter.
The starting quarterback at the time was an All state guy.
So that's why he wasn't the starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
But he's done.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
He's done a marvelous job, just an incredible job since
he's been there. And Eric Morris, they head coach at
age forty, all of a sudden his name is popping
up because they say, hey, wait a minute, this guy
coach Baker Mayfield. He coached Patrick Mahomes. He discovered cam
Ward when he was down an incarnate word.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
So it's that kind of stuff, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
And somebody asked him about, you know, what his long
term plans are. His quote was, when I retire, I'm
going to farm cotton. It's well done, he goes, give
me a good process and I'll work at it. Plus
cotton won't talk back to me. I won't have to
deal with any bulls anyway.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
He answered the question.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, it said former Eric Morris
protege's account for ten percent of the NFL starting quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Think about that. Baker Mayfield walked on at Texas Tech
ward a zero star recruit. When he signed at Incarnate
Word in twenty twenty, both turned into number one draft picks.
Mahomes spent three years with Morris and Lubbock, then McCain
well Patrick Mahomes. Two more branches of Eric Morris quarterback tree,

(55:48):
Oklahoma's John Mattier and Virginia's Chandler Morris and he's not related,
by the way to Eric Morris, are multimillion dollar transfers
leading college football playoff contenders in twenty twenty five. We
were talking about Chandler Morris last night on the high
School telecast because he played a Highland Park. We're talking
about all the great Highland Park quarterbacks and Buck Randall,

(56:10):
the one who's playing now is only the second guy
to start as a sophomore under the coach Randy Allen
in his twenty seven years.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
You know who the other one is.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
No, Matthew Stafford, Yeah, okay, and they won a state
title twenty years ago in two thousand and five. Matthew
and we went by the way, we had all these
photos of Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw when they were
the elementary school kids together, youth football kids together. A
shot of Kershaw as the ninth grade team center. He
was the center for Stafford he was always a quarterback.

(56:41):
And then Clayton after the ninth grade told coach ol
I think I needed to concentrate on baseball, and he said, yeah,
I think I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
It was I don't need to get landed. I don't
need to take this kind of battering on every pe.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
No, no, no, I can throw a fastball in ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
What is this oblong ball?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah, he said. Randy Allen, head coach, told that both
those guys played three sports all the way through ninth grade,
and then I think Stafford still played basketball through his
junior year. Clayton went all baseball after after his freshman year.
After that, So anyway, somebody asked Patrick Mahomes about Eric Morris.

(57:22):
His quote was, he gives you confidence, go out there
and be yourself and play the game the way you're
supposed to play, and he'll change the offense for that.
It's not surprising to me that he's had so much success.
He did play calling at Texas Tech, Washington State head
coaching Incarnate Word, and now North Texas. So yes, his
name has come up. And then they talked about mestera Maker.

(57:44):
Drew Mestermaker from Vandergriff had not started a game at
quarterback since his freshman year of high school on the
freshman team at Vandergriff And then, of course he exploded
against Texas State in the First Responders Bowl. Texas State
ended up winning that game with a was a thrilling game,
he said. Since winning the starting job this far, the
former walk on from Austin has been as impressive as

(58:07):
any quarterback in the country. He ranks fifth nationally in
passing yards at three thousand, seventh and touchdowns at twenty three,
lifting the ninety one mean Green into the AP Top
twenty five for the first time in program history. That's
not true, happened, oh, top twenty five? Well, No, they
were ranked in nineteen fifty nine last time, more with
more completions of twenty plus yards than all but two

(58:32):
FBS passers.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
So pretty good.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
So Sunny Dyke's who was Eric Morris position coach in
Lubbock from two thousand and four to two thousand and six,
when Morris played for Mike Leech at Texas Tech. Sunny
Dyke's quote was being willing to invest in the guy
that couldn't start in high school at the varsity level.
Not too many coaches have the stones to do that.

(58:58):
That's the thing about Eric. He's got a lot of
belief in himself.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, he trusts his eyes. Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Their game will be on after the Texas game tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
There there they play at Rice. But you hear what's
going on there? Yes, In fact, you sent it.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
To me, and I was gonna I was gonna get
it in, and I decided to wait on it and
put it into a college football segment. So here we
are in a college football segment. So uh, Jake sends
this to me. Uh. Brian Davis had retweeted a thing
that said, uh, Rice offering students free beer and food

(59:42):
at the North Texas game. According to Matt Young of
the Houston Chronicle, free beer for college uh for for
college students.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
And free Ben and Jerry's ice cream. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
I have a feeling most people are gonna probably stick
to the beer, So I sent that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I sent that on to my good friends.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Dave Barnett and Hank Dickinson, the play by play and
analysts on the Mean Green Radio Network, said about this,
and Hank Dickinson, in his usual and inimitable style, said, man,
I hope that includes visiting radio booth.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Yeah, where's ours? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
So North Texas has to win that game against Rice,
and then they have to win the game against Temple
at home, which is black Friday afternoon, one week from
the day. If they win that, then I think the
math works out. They get to host the American Conference
Championship game, whether they play Tulane or East Carolina. First

(01:00:41):
of all, they'd have a tie breaker on Tulane because
they beat UAB who beat Tulane. I think it was
so they would have the tiebreaker there, And I'm not
sure how it'd work with East Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
But suppose if.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
They win these next two games, they would host the
American Conference Championship game. And if they win that game, yeah,
a decent shot they get into the playoff. It'll be
interesting to see what would James Madison's hopes as well
from the Sun Belt coming down the home stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Hey, no walk in the park for East Carolina this week, though,
you know where they are.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
See they just beat Memphis. Who do they have this week?
They're coming to the Alamodome. Oh that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
They play UTSA and that's who beat Tulane UTSA two. Yeah,
and North Texas blasted. They launched UTSA into the sun.
I think they scored fifty three points on so that's
the tiebreaker there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
But if you're a North Texas fan, you're rooting hard
for Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Trailer and those roadrunners this week. He'd loves to see
Tulane get out of the picture. Then let East Carolina,
who I think is more dangerous in Tulane. Tulane in
fact holds ahead to head on ECU, so then they
and then it would have East Carolina come into den.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
The odds makers like East Carolina buy a field goal
at UTSA. Okay, but the over under is sixty two Okay, yeah, points,
It could get pointsy, no doubt. We'll be back to
wrap up hour number two on thirteen under the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Zone, third and final hour before we release you for
the weekend. You're actually releasing going anytime you want, but
we're glad you're spending some of your time with us
this afternoon. Craig Way alongside the producer, Jay Carman, glad
to have you with.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Us, and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
As always we're more than happy to take your questions,
your thoughts, and your comments about stuff. So anyway, that's
why we've been reading those. Will continue to do this
as well. Well. If've got some other things we're going
to get to, like the fact what a huge game

(01:02:48):
this is going to be for the Cowboys Sunday afternoon
against the Philadelphia Eagles. You can hear it on ninety
eight point one FMKVEP. It is a three twenty five
pm kickoff. Brian Schottenheimer today in his final media briefing

(01:03:08):
of the week before they get ready for this contest
at Jerry Whirl on Sunday, was asked two or three
different things. One about Saquon Barkley. Now, Saquon clearly, without question,
absolutely has not had the kind of season a yet

(01:03:30):
a year ago.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
We know that over two thousand yards a whole bit.
Some of that he was a little banged up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Some of them had to do with the injury, some
of them had to do with offensive struggles overall. And
so naturally in a news conference, you know, coaches will
do this, anybody will do this. Can make numbers say
a lot of different things or say nothing at all

(01:03:57):
in fact.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
And so when I don't know if confronted is the
right word.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But with once presented with the fact that Barkley's numbers
pale by comparison to what he's done a year ago,
Pride Chop Armor had already response, Yeah, you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Get caught up in the numbers way more than I do.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:04:19):
I'm I'm a video guy, man, I just turn on
the film and when I watched sa kuon Barkley run,
whether it goes for one yard or thirty yards, I'm
holding on. I'm like, oh man, because he's just that talented.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
And so.

Speaker 11 (01:04:33):
Again, they've had a lot of moving parts on their
offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
That's part of it.

Speaker 11 (01:04:38):
But you know, I mean, look at what the guy
did last year. You know, he's just a fantastic football player.
And we have to do a good job of owning
the line of scrimmage and kind of you know, not
giving him space to run. We did a great job
of that last week, but can we do it again?
You know, everything that we're talking about is the consistency.
We know we have to stack wins, we know we
have to play. Well, we understand that. But you if

(01:05:00):
we go and we play and we executed at the
level we did last week, I think that will you know,
lend well for us having a chance to win this
game in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Next, you heard him say he's a tape guy or
video guy. You know, he likes to look at the cutups,
the digital stuff, the video stuff. So if we are
to follow that path, then the question was asked of
Shoddy about guys on his team that he thinks show

(01:05:33):
up more on tape than on a stat sheeet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yeah again.

Speaker 11 (01:05:37):
I mean I will say, you know, I'm gonna start
with Flow. I think, you know, Flow is a guy
that you know, again, he does so many things for
us that don't get noticed. It's really cool for me
to see him, you know, developing as a receiver. I
think Reddy Stewart's a guy that jumps off the film
with his physicality, the way that he plays and you know,
playing that nickel position.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
We know how important it is.

Speaker 11 (01:06:00):
Another name that jumps up that actually I need to congratulate.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I'll mention Solomon Thomas.

Speaker 11 (01:06:05):
He was I think the week twelve NFLPA Community MVP
for the work that he does off the field and
his leadership in our locker room is incredible. But that's
another guy that he doesn't have, you know, that many
sacks or things like that, but the play style and what.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
He does to get other guys is really good.

Speaker 11 (01:06:23):
And then you know, you know, I do think that
another young player that I'll speak to, he just got
a game ball today, was Elijah Clark. You know on
special teams, you know, he and Brevin spawned Ford. Man,
I mean, the impact on special teams is invaluable. And
just watch those two guys if you want to pick
two guys to put your eyes on and special teams

(01:06:45):
coverage wise, thirty eight and eighty nine.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Man, those are guys that they do it the right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Way, all right? Remember the first game? How could we
forget right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Sunday night game, Jalen Carter ejected for the game for spitting.
They're right at Dak Prescott Carter will be back and
the Cowboy's gonna have a rookie Tyler Booker going up
against Carter. Carter did not play in the game at
all because of the suspension or the ejection, and it

(01:07:15):
was officially classified as a suspension under the NFL rules,
but call it in National Football League parlance time served
because of the ejection the game. The game had not started,
so he was ejected slash suspended for that one game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Well, I'll be back for this one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
He's gonna have and Scheaneiber's gonna have the rookie Tyler
Booker going up against him.

Speaker 11 (01:07:40):
It's still a tough matchup. I mean, Jalen's a tough
matchup on anybody. And again, I wouldn't pay money to
watch many defensive interior lineman play football, but I would
pay money to watch Jalen Carter.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
That's how I feel about the guy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
He's really a good player, but.

Speaker 11 (01:07:56):
I think the experienced books gained, you know, and nosey
belongs in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
The physicality is important.

Speaker 11 (01:08:01):
He's playing with a lot more confidence than maybe he
was early in the year, certainly coming back off the
injury a couple of weeks ago. But yeah, it's a
it's a tough matchup for anybody, and the good news
is he doesn't have to block them by himself.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Nobody really does block.

Speaker 11 (01:08:15):
Jalen by themselves, but they stress you different ways. But
I got I just I think this guy is a
limit for Tyler Brooker.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Something really pithy, something really really intelligent, really you know,
heavy duty thought provoking in your thirty seconds of time,
or it could be something like this.

Speaker 12 (01:10:40):
Craig, you're talking about the fast food update, and you
pronounced preline instead of prowling. It's properly pronounced prowling. It
came from New Orleans. It is the uh carmel and
con candies.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
That you get.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
There's no why so, there's no prey.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
It's a prom.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
You know that. And you know, I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
All I knew was that Jake had somebody uh with
with a pronouncer for me on this. And and so
I thought, well, if he says proleens, the dudes from
New Orleans or knows it from New Orleans. If he
says praleens, it's Texan. Uh tell the folks at Bluebell
that they don't call it proleens and cream, it's praleens

(01:11:28):
and cream. But I get, I get what you're saying there.
I have this exact same conversation with my wife. How
do you say, how do you pronounce a word that
is spelled c A R A M e L.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I've always said, I've always said caramel. Okay, that's what
she says. I say, carmel.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Okay, wrong with that, but that's potato, potato, you know
whatever that that kind of stuff. But that's okay, Uh, caramel, carmel.
You know, how are you going to say? And I
think a lot of people in Texas are I'd never
even heard of them until I moved down in nineteen
seventy eight, and then I tried my first one, I

(01:12:12):
think at a Textbax restaurant or something had won and
I said, what are these? My dad said they're Preleans,
and that's what I'd always heard a lot of Native Texans.
My father in law, who is as native Texan, was
his native Texan as you come.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
He was from the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Crockett area, but his family descendancy traced back to Steven F.
Austin's original colony of three hundred which came across the
Sabine River and established over there out near in Acadocia's.
In fact, his name, his last name was Porter, and
his little community not far from Academicians called Porter Springs
where a lot of those families and stuff did. That's

(01:12:50):
what his descendancy was. He was as native Texan as
you can get. And he'd say prelade because Texans. A
lot of Texans will say it that way. But I
understand and I do not disagree one bit with the
guy who said it's probably. And I learned that when

(01:13:10):
I went to New Orleans, when I got down there
and they.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Were particular about they said, it's probably, just.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Like in Louisiana. You've heard me say this before. They
do not pronounce the name of the town where the
University of Louisiana is located as Lafayette.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
It's Lafayette.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It's a short ay at sound Lafayette, the school that
Texas be and men's basketball a couple of weeks ago
from Easton, Pennsylvania. That's Lafayette, named after the Marquis de
Lafayette from France who was part of George Washington's attachment
in the Revolutionary War. By the way, i haven't even
had a chance to watch Ken Burns American Revolute. I've

(01:13:48):
recorded every episode. This is kind of a busy week.
A couple of basketball games, high school playoff game last
night in Frisco, Sark Show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
The Daily Show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Here, there is the Texas Arkansas game tomorrow. I'm on
a six am flight Sunday to where am I going.
MAUI go there?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Oh yeah, MAUI three days in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Now we do in basketball, come back on an overnight,
get back middle of the afternoon on Thanksgiving, and we
have the football game Friday night Texas and Texas A
and M. And then I've got another high school game
on Saturday. So yeah, but this is that time of year.
I signed up for this years ago. I get it.
I understand it, and so I understand all of that.
So I haven't had a chance to watch Ken Burns

(01:14:35):
The American Revolution, but I have DVR at all, so I
will certainly watch that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Up next, we're gonna hear from LONGRN, said coach Steve Sarkisian.
No no, no, no, no more stuff about how he's not,
you know, going anywhere anything like that. You know, he
has said his piece on that. Coming up will be
the segment from Long Warren Weekly where we talk about
the Arkansas Razorbacks. That's next here on sports Radio AM
thirteen under the Zone and our radio app.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
You're gonna hear a great line coming up here, you know,
and I think we're all familiar if you know talking.
It's right here this line.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
This ain't no party, they say, no disco, This ain't
no fool in a rack, no time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
For dancing or lovey dovey. I ain't got time for
that now.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
The our operations director of the Long Worn Radio Network
from lear Field, Cherry Kelly, I meant to ask herbout
she was wearing a shirt the other day that said,
this ain't no disco.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Yeah. Let me some David Byrne and talking heads there.
All right, are you familiar much with David Byrne?

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
I know, uh, I know what their m O is.
And I like the song Once in a Lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Oh, I love that song. Love that song. And taking
the River. Yep, it's another really good one. And there's
another one that's just really really like it. I'm trying
to remember.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
And she was, Oh, I love that one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's another one there. Anyway, all right,
we continue here on thirteen percent. Somebody our man carry
apparently on the same page as me, pronounces it pray
Lane and Carmel and he says, by the way, it's
but to not Buddha. Whoever says that not mean then
I don't think you. You learned that pretty quickly when he
got here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it is buta. That

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was one of the first games I called. It was
Austin High at Hayes and Hays Okay, all right, very good,
by the way, besselot Austin High there in the state
volleyball tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Yes, well, and Cedar Park one of my regrets of
this fall. Didn't get it on any volleyball play by
play next year?

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Do you enjoy it?

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
I do? I like volleyball?

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
All right, long worn football team getting ready for the
Arkansas Razorbacks who come in tomorrow. They're flying in today,
but the game is to our afternoon at two thirty
at dk R Texas Memorial Stadium. This is the segment
from Longhorn Weekly. We're Sark was you know whatever, denying
rumors and making his statement. We've run that for you.

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This is our weekly presentation in the four o'clock hour
where we bring you the breakdown that Sark and I
have of the opponent. So and again, this is from
Longhorn Weekly. The aired last night here on the Zone.
It will air re air tonight in case you missed it.
The program in Toto. All of it is really worth

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listening to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
I'll give you more on that a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
First of all, here's the breakdown on the matchup with
the Arkansas Razorbacks with head coach Steve Sarkigan. The first
time Arkansas will have played a game in Austin since
two thousand and eight, the first time they will have
played a conference game since nineteen ninety, going back to
the old Southwest Conference days, and really that's kind of
the crux of things in the old Southwest Conference rivalry

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between these two.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
You know, it really is, you know, and I was,
I've been you know, we have some new faces on
the team that weren't here a year ago when when
we went and played at Arkansas. I mean, definitely, I
think Michael taff might be the only one on in
Marshall that we're here with us when we first went
in twenty twenty one, which that was a that was
a disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
And I was, I was.

Speaker 6 (01:18:13):
Trying to explain to the team just the vigor of
this rivalry, and you know, I used the adage I said,
you know, I really think the people at Arkansas hate
us more than they like themselves. Like that was my
that's my best way to describe kind of the intensity
of this rivalry, the intensity of this game. And you know,

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obviously with coach Petrino back as the head coach in
his history, and so it's just there's so much that
goes into this thing and it's great, like you know,
with all this conference realignment stuff that's happened in college
football over the years, and and the change and people
complaining about losing rivalry games, US picking two back up
with Arkansas on A and M and this being the
first one, and to get them both at the end

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of the year, I think is really pretty special.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Taylor Green's a guy you've seen know and defended pretty
well at quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
Well, he is a one athletic guy. And when you
look at just the length and the size at sixty
six two and twenty five pounds, his ability to throw
the football, but his ability to run the ball and
his long speed and the amount of explosive runs that
he's had this year unbroken plays alone is obviously very scary,
and so you kind of have to circle and highlight

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the quarterback first. But don't don't get it mistaken. They've
got an elite runner. You could argue maybe the best
running back we've seen this year. They've got fantastic weapons
on the outside, They've got they've got a tight end.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
Who they utilize them. This tight end here, this Jones.

Speaker 6 (01:19:40):
He's got thirteen catches for four hundred and eleven yards.
He averages thirty yards to catch, and so this is
an explosive offense that can put points up fast and
coach Petrino does a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
How about your thoughts on the Razorbacks defense and what
you'll see from the Hogs defensively.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Well, very good defensive front.

Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
You know, this Quincy Roadse I think has got eight sacks,
one of the leaders in the conference. I think tied
were right up there with Colin and sacks and the
conference play. The Xavion Story, who they're now playing at edge,
is a fantastic edge rusher. And they've got a nose
tackle in here Ian Griffard who's six five three and
ninety pounds. Okay, so this is this is your typical

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SEC front right with the massive upfront, great length. They
do a really good job of trying to keep things
in front of them, and they've they've been getting better
with the change. When when the coaching change occurred, you know,
coach Petrino let the old defensive coordinator. Know, Chris Wilson,
an old coach of mine when we were at SC
was my defensive line coach, is now the defensive coordinator.

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And you can see them steadily getting better and better
and better as the season has gone on. And you know,
they played really well defensively last week against LSU, it
didn't come out with win.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
But the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
About their record at two and eight LSU, they lose
twenty three to twenty two Mississippi State, they lose in
the waning second is thirty eight thirty five. Auburn scores
late to make it thirty three twenty four A and M.
They lose forty five to forty two. They lose to
Tennessee thirty four to thirty one. And that's when the
coaching change occurred. So the record may look like one thing,

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the tape looks totally different. And so this is gonna
be a heck of a game Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
And that's what all of his players have said. The
record maybe one thing the tape says, didn't We just
hear that from Ryan Schottenneimer.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
He said, if you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Guys get caught up in the numbers, I get caught
up in the tape, yep. And I think a lot
of times a lot of that. The answers you know again,
parcels you are, which a record says you are. But
that's record, not necessarily. But here's some numbers. Here are
some things that are difficult to ignore. First of all,

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they have a very balanced attack. They run for two
hundred and five yards per game. Got a really good
running back in Mike Washington who's nearing one thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
They throw for two hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Sixty games, so they're averaging four hundred and seventy yards
a game of total offense. So they move the ball defensively,
they are allowing one to eighty one per game on
the grounds a lot in two forty five passing. In fact,
their pass defense is one excuse me, their rush defense

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their defense against the run out of one hundred and
I think it's thirty five Division one FPS programs one
thirty six. Yeah, one thirty six. Yeah, their rush defense
is one hundred and fifteenth. So again this is one
of those deals. Like just like we said last week
with the Georgia game, need to run to win. Got

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to be able to run the football Long Orange did
so on the first drive against Georgia, and then Bulldogs
made adjustments and the Long Wars did not run the
ball well the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Of the ball game.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
They need to run the ball well tomorrow at their
pass defense, by the way, nothing the right home about
one hundred and eighth. So give up lots of points,
but they score lots of points. That's why they have
games that now I'm not even counting the two games
they want at the start of the year when they
beat Alabama A and M fifty two to seven and
beat Arkansas State fifty six to fourteen. Listen to these

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after that. The all of these are losses. Ole Miss
forty one to thirty five, Memphis thirty two to thirty one,
Notre Dame fifty six thirteen, Tennessee thirty four to thirty one,
Texas A and M forty five forty two, Auburn thirty

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three twenty four, Mississippi State thirty eight thirty five, LSU
twenty three twenty two. So with the exception of the
Notre Dame game, they're all winnable games. In fact, they
were up on Auburn in the fourth quarter and then
Auburn was up like two late in the game and
then scored a touchdown in the last seconds to make
them final March of nine. But every other game has

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been win game. That's what they mean when they say
watch the tape and don't necessarily get caught up in
the numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
If Arkansas had an average defense, they might be in
the top half of the SEC.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah, but they're their scoring defense is dead last in
the SEC. They're scoring defenses one hundred and twenty first
in the country, one hundred and twenty third in total defense.
They're dead last in total defense, they're next to last
and pass defense and rush defense.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
They're third to last in stop rate.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Yeah, exactly so. But their offense is good. They're second
in the SEC and rushing offense eighteenth in the country.
In rushing offense fifth in the SEC, and passing offense
thirty third in the nation. In passing total offense third
in the conference. This was a two and eight record,

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thirteenth in the country in total offense and in scoring
offense sixth in the SEC, twenty fifth in the nation.
Those are numbers that don't necessarily be fit a T
in a football team, but again, a lot of different things
than they just hadn't been able to close out deals
is Chuck Barrett was talking to us about the other
day the Razorbacks played by play voice. So all right,
up next we shift towards high school football for the weekend.

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Tell you about the big playoff games coming up. We'll
continue here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone
in the iHeartRadio app how'd you do and get ready
to talking about Odessa Permian. You have no idea what
that connection is. There is a connection, none at all.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
You have no idea what that connection is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Odessa Permian one of the classic Texas high school football programs,
and this would be a theme song that they would play,
that their band would play. Why because in the days
before the high school football playoffs extended, expanded doubled in
size from thirty two teams to sixty four teams in
nineteen eighty two. Prior to that, only the district champion

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went to the playoffs had to win five games to
win a state championship, five as in Going five and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Oh ah the second season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
So the Permian Marching band learn the thing to Hawaii
five oh and would play this quite all. But it
is a connection to us talking about some high.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
School playoff off. You need to know. You know I
had a connection. You're just coming back with Hawaiian five.
I was coming back with it because you're going to Maui.
That is true. I am. I'll be in Maui. There're right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
But I'm going to tell you about No desciprit because
it was gonna do what I was gonna do. I
got enough time. I'm gonna run down every single playoff
matchup on the second weekend and let you know where
these games are, all right? Uh? Sixth A Division one
Midland Legacy in North Crowley. All of these games are
either tomorrow or tonight. There was only one six A
game that's played last night. That was Vandigrift, So Middland Legacy,

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North Crawley tomorrow afternoon in Abilene, h Coppel and Richardson
Tonight in Carrollton, Odessa. Permian plays man Field Lake Ridge
in Ablen tonight. Allen plays tonight against Lake Highlands. They're
the Richardson School District. They're in Dallas. It's kind of
like Vandergrift being in Austin city limits but part of

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the Leander I SD. That's why when Greg Tepper other
people want to keep on calling Austin Vandergriffin said don't
call him Austin Vandergriff. And he goes, well, they're in Austin.
I said, yeah, Lake Highlands is in Dallas. Do you
call him Dallas Lake Hiland. No, they don't call them that.
I saw one of a kui. They're Vandergriff, Lake Highlands
is one of a guy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
It's Lake Islands, and I've seen Vandergriff listed on Texas
High School History where I get a lot of my
playoff date as Leanne.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Leander because they're in the Leander ISD. Rockwall Heath is
playing Duncanville tonight in Allen. The Woodlands plays Climb Collins
tomorrow in Houston North forty and waksa Acche tonight in Arlington,
and so the Rangers old ball Park which is now
Choctall Stadium, the Arlington i SD uses it as a

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football facil now Conrad Grand Oaks against Cy Ranch that's
tonight in tom ball Side Falls against Sinkle Ranch and
Katie tonight. What a game this is? This is the
game of the weekend, I think certainly. In six A,
Galena Park, North Shore and unbeaten for ben Ridge point
two top three teams in six A playing at Aldine

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Thornton Stadium. The computer says, that's a pickam.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
By the way, wait, the ap pole has that both
of them in the top three.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
He said, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
The computer interestingly has them both outside the top three
but inside the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Yep, yep, the computer does. The Dave Campbell's pole has
him in the top three. Houston Lawn Strake Jesuit that's
tonight in Houston. Paarland and Dickinson. That's a good matchup.
That's in Webster down there near NASA. Huddo plays unbeaten
San Antonio Johnson down at Bob Shelton Stadium. We lost

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Bob Shelton last week. By the way, great great coach
from Hayes all those years. Sibil Oaks Steele and Westleco
play in Laredo tonight. Lake Travis and Brenham in Sageen tonight,
and Laredo United and Los Fresnos in Corpus Christie tomorrow.
Six A Division two El Paso Eastwood against Trophy Club

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Byron Nelson.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
They play in Lubbock.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Dentingeier and Jesuit College Prep of Dallas play in Irving tonight.
San Angelo Central against South Lake Carrol Tonight in Stephenville
prosper and Richardson Bergner in Grapevine Tonight. These are all
games Tonight, Longview and De Soto in Waco at the
ISD Stadium. The Woodlands College Park against Side Lakes in
the Syfair School District in the Houston area Tonight, Forny

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Harker Heights playing Mansfield, Willison, tom Ball and New Keney.
Houston Memorial and Katie play in Houston manvilin Summer Creek
by next week. Could be gigantic Katie if Katie and
Summer Creek both win. Houston, Strafford and Katie Jordan play
in Houston Tomorrow tonight, Shadow Creek and c e King

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in Houston. Last night, Vandergriff beat Brandie thirty seven to seven,
and they play the winner two of tomorrow's game between
San Marcos and Edinburgh down in Corpus. Dripping Springs plays
Harlan at the Rock Pile tonight, Alamoke Stadium in San
Antonio tonight, and the Winter will get the winner of
the Medina Valley Harlingen game they play in Corpus tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
All right, so that is in six eight.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
The computer likes the winner of that Dripping Springs Harlan
game to advance out of that little pods.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
That's another one, Yeah, makes sense, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
In five A Division one, I'll passow El Dorado plays
Richland in Lubbock Tonight. Abilene High against Danton, Ryan and
Crowley this evening. Alito, number one in the state, plays
Amreilla Tascos out in Big Spring Tonight. Last night, Arlington
Heights beat Lubbock Monterey, so they get in all probability
Alito in the next round. Georgetown and Frisco loan Star

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tonight at Georgetown i SD Athletic Complex, barkele Box Stadium.
You can watch that game on KBVO. Roger Wallis Keith
warning on the call in that one. Westminskee and mid
Lothian play at Meskee Memorial Highland Park. Last time we're
talk about the game that I called for victory plus.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
They beat Frisco Redy forty five to ten.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
They take on the winner of tonight's game at Panther
Stadium there in Hewitt, just south of Waco. Cedar Park
and Frisco Wakeland Port Author Memorial and A and M
consolidated tonight. That's in Deer Park College Station in Beaumont,
United playing Channelview, Weiss and Lufkin. Lufkin is coached by
Karl Apseck, who coached Cedar Park with state championship a

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few years ago. That's in Shenandoah, north of Houston Anderson.
The computer says is a one point underdog to Barber's
Hill and they'll play tomorrow afternoon at that Syfair Stadium,
Smithson Valley.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
The defenning state champ plays.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
That's Memorial of Corpus Christy that's in the Alamo Dome
home tonight San Antonio Piper against Corpus Christy Flower Bluff.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Flower Bluff won a flip.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
That's at their stadium tonight far San Juan Alamo North
against Bernie Champion. That's in Laredo tonight. And also tonight
is McCallum Memorial against New Bronfels in Corpus five eight
Division two al Paso Andras against Melissa and Wolfeth Emerald
Paladero against Anna. I hope Melissa and Anna when just
just so Anna can play Melissa next week. They're in

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the same district, by the way, our Guyle against Abilene
Cooper tonight in Godly. And then there's prosper Walnut Grove
against Lobbock Cooper that's in Abilene tonight. South Olcliffe won
last night over Mount Pleasant. They're trying to get back
to state championship for a fifth straight year.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
To the state finals.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Yeah, a little bit of an arm wrestle. Early, I
had that one up on a small screen. It was
I think seventeen to seven, real close to the half.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Then they pulled away like Tighland Park game was fourteen ten
at they when they scored thirty one and answered Terrell
unbeat and they play Ville at McLean Stateium in Waco
Tonight Texas High Texas Cannon plays Midlothian Heritage that's in
Roy City port and HS Grows against Inness in Montgomery.
These are all games tonight, Richmond, Randall against Conley. How
about those Connley Cougar's Evans in's second round and be

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a massive underdog against Randall that's in Brian and I
bast drop the game j will be calling tomorrow afternoon
against Waco. You where can fans find that?

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
If you want to, they can find that on the
NFHS network.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Okay, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Flugerville against Iowa Colin. The computer likes Iowa Colony about
like forty Iowa College is really good. That's going to
be in Waller Bernie against Scherryland Pioneer in Laredo, Gregory
Portland against Mission Scherryland that's in Gregory, Portland. They won
that flip Mission Memorial against Victoria West and Harlandale in
the San Antonio and Alamo Heights against Mercedes that is

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in Corpus Christie, Okay two Class four A in Division one,
Canyon and brown Wood playing Odessa tonight. These are all
games tonight except for well, No, Paris and Decatur got
moved to tonight. It was supposed to be last night,
but they were worried about the storm. So all of
these games are tonight. Canyon and Brownwood and Odessa West
Plains from Canyon against lamp Passes in Snyder Burnett plays

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Canyon Randall and Iowa Park Stephenville against Dumas in Vernon,
Springtown against Panther Creek.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Do you know the mascot name for Springtown? By the way?
Now do we go over this? And I forgotten? No, No,
we hadn't gone omber this. Okay, what is it? The Porcupines? Oh,
Springtown Porcupine? Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
They played Panther Creek tonight at the NRH Byirdville. That's
the Bodville Fine Arts and Athletics Complex in North Richland.
Is it that alvareto against Sulfur Springs and prosper Salina
number one in the state, defending state champ plays for
Northeastern Hills at Pennington Field and Beveror tonight. Paris and
Decatur playing Dennis and tonight. They were supposed to play

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last night, but the storms were too severe. Kilgourn Stafford
in Willis Bridge City and Avasota in Baytown. Houston Gates
against Longview, Pine Tree and Crockett four men, Crawford against
Lynndale in Nakadocha's LBJ plays Bay City in Brenham. Bay
City according to computer picked a win by one point.
Davenport really good. They play Port lovokat Calhoun, the fight

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in sand Crabs that's in Smithville to night, Somer Set
against Laburnia that's in Farris or dub Fairs, Staium in
San Antonio, and cal Allen against Canyon Lake that's on
the south west side of San Antonio down in von Ormy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
In the D two bracket Midland Greenwood against Eagle Mountain
that's in Clyde, Lubbock, Cooper Liberty against Graham Shot. Well,
these are all games tonight except last night where Wimmerley one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
We'll get to that in a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Brock and Lubboquestacanaoa and San Angelo, Glen Rose and Seminole
at the Mustang Bowl and Sweetwater Crumb against Athens in Mesquite,
Sunnyvale and van in Sulfur Springs, Texas, Cana Pleasant Grove
against Canton, Carge against Sanger. That could be a massive
game next week if Carthage plays Pleasant Grove, West Oren
Stark against Robinson in Spring, West Columbia against Sealy at

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Iowa Colony there south of Houston, China Spring against Lamark
in Magnolia, La Vega against Silsby and Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
That's at the Tomato Bowl so Lato and Rockport.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Fulton in San Antonio at Gustafson Gonzales and Querra Bulldog Stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Jerald plays Senton at comb Lander.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
If the Cougars can find a way to win, it'd
be Jerald and Wimberley next week.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
And on China Spring. They're four and seven. They were
missing their quarterback for a couple of games. There won
last week as a twenty point computer underdog. Yeah only
five this week against Lamark.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Big time all right three A Division one. Vernon beat
Denver City last night. Franklinbeat orange Field. Every other game
is tonight shallow Water and Peaster and Childress. The winner
will get Vernon, who won last night jim ned from
Tuscola against Bushland that's in Lubbock, Paradise and dal Hard

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and Childress, Whitney and Winnsboro and Rockwall, Portney against Pottsboro
against Malakoff in Greenville, Commerce against Pilot Point that's in McKinney,
Glade Water against those Grand View Zebras. It's in Cofton,
Fairfield against Yoakum that's in Belton Harden against Hitchcock at Laporte.

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Franklin did win last night, they beat Orangefield. They'll play
the winner of the Columbus Palastine Westwood game. Alanto plays
on the north side of San Antonio Rutlets Stadium. There
in Converse against Corpus Christy London, Crystal City against Golead,
Edna against Marion, Orange Grove against Ingram Moor DA three
A D two bracket Canadian Coahoma, Idolou, San Angelo, Great Creek,

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Merkel and Slayton Wall and Childress, Holiday, Leonard, Jackspur and
Blue Ridge, Gunner and wichital Falls, City View, Kallisburg, Henrietta.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Gunner by the Way is going for.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
A four pet at three eight Division two Edgewood, Woodville, Dangerfield,
Art true Hooks, Newton, de cab Blanco, Catula, Tidave and
Stockdale both and East Bernard and George West against Lexington
that's in El Campo tonight and finally running down in
Class two A in Division one. West Texas beat Hawley

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last night and they'll play Stamford the other games tonight, Anson, Spearman, Cisco, Panhandle, Hamilton, Mildred,
Alvred Price, Carlisle, Axtell, tom Bean, Frankston, De Leon, Honey Grove, Joaquin, Lesion, Fields, Garrison,
Sant Augustine Wascombe, jew At Leon, Kennedy, Crawford, Beckdale rather

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Crawford Kennedy, Mason Schulenberg. They play at Gupton Stadium tonight
there in Cedar Park. Canado and Thorndale played tonight in
Or did they play last night in Bastrop. Did they
get pushed back as the storm didn't see a fine.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
I don't know if they kicked off.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Yeah, and Rerafurrio and New bron Foles or Refereo in
rosebe a lot playing in New Bronos also finally one
game to mention in two eighty two as Granger. They
play Yorktown in Gettings tonight. We'll be back to wrap
it up. I'm thirteen under the zone