Texas-Duke Recap, HSFB Regular Season Wrapping Up, NFL Trade Reactions

Craig Way and Jake Herman cover topics including Texas men's and women's basketball, the NFL Trade Deadline, area high school football tie-breaking scenarios, and more on this edition of the show!

Plus, DCTF's Greg Tepper tells us which matchups are catching his eye across the state's collegiate and high school slate. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's Wednesday time. Wednesday time means getting over the hump
on Humday. It also means it's a yacht rock Wednesday
here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred of its own.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Glad to be with you here on this Wednesday, back
from Charlotte, North Carolina, late night turnaround flight after the
Longhorn men's basketball season opener game at saw them be
extremely competitive with the Duke Blue Devils for three fourths
of the game before Duke pulled away to win seventy
five to sixty. We'll hear my postgame conversation with head

(00:44):
coach Sean Miller coming up today during the program. But
there's a lot of things to get to and that
includes college football with a brand new first released of
the season college football playoff rankings.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
There's that.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
There's women's basketball Texas Loghorns coming off that season opening
when they on Monday night over excuse me over in
carnate word, and they will be back in action against
the Richmond Spiders on Friday night. We'll hear from Vick
Schaeffer here in the program. So there's a lot to
get to. Also coming up in the three o'clock hour.

(01:23):
Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine,
Tip normally joins us on Tuesday, but since I was
out of town not doing the show, Tip wanted to
move it back anyway, So it ended up working out well.
The guy who did do the show yesterday is the
producer of this program, Jay Carman, who is here. You've
caught your breath coming off for the doing the show yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Everything all right?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, everything was good, not too bad on my ranking
predictions there. Towards the end, we covered a wide range
of topics. It was fun breaking some news as the
NFL trade deadline unfolded yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
How about that the Cowboys all say Jerry Jones told us,
But Jerry Jones tells us lots of things, and you
don't know how much of it to believe. Yeah, I
guess we can believe him over the two deals he
made yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I was getting ready for the show just a couple
hours before we started, and I made sure to grab
some Jerry Jones sound bites talking about the Logan Wilson
trade as he was sort of teasing what might happen
with the deadline. So it was like taking an autopsy
listening to those quotes after realizing, oh, they got Quentnin
Williams too, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
So we'll take a look at the trade deadline stuff
as well. And so we'll do that since the Cowboys
were as active as anybody other and maybe the New
York Jets, and they were involved in one headhead deal together.
So we'll take a look at the NFL trade deadline
activity that happened yesterday afternoon. So glad to have you
with us this afternoon. One thing that I thought was

(02:53):
interesting was Jay Billis for ESPN does what's called the
Billis where he ranks what he believes to be the
sixty eight best men's basketball teams in twenty five, twenty
twenty six. Why sixty eight, because of course, the NCAA
tournament field is sixty eight. Now we all know the

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song and dance and the exercise that goes on here.
The best sixty eight teams do not make it into
the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
They don't. They just they.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Don't make it into the NCAA tournament because of one
mid leagues and you know, Championship Week, March Madness, Conference tournament,
up sets, and you know what, I think that's a
good thing.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I hope that never changes. Now.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
This is coming from the perspective of a guy who
grew up in the state of North Carolina, where you
in the seventies. You could grow up in the mid
seventies and your team could go twenty nine and one,
but if you lost the ACC Tournament Championship, you weren't
getting into the NCAA tournament that didn't start till seventy five, actually,

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when they expanded the field from twenty five teams to
thirty two teams. But it was a right of spring
and a right of passage to have that AEC tournament
in Greensboro, in my hometown. Even sneaked into the Greensboro
Coliseum in nineteen seventy five as a fourteen year old
to see North Carolina with a freshman named Phil Ford

(04:27):
upset the defending national champions North Carolina State and the
ACC Tournament championship game into a guy who worked concessions
there and he should just be at the door, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
On the side. We got to where we knew that
arena so well.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Food delivery come on in the back door.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, it was one of those kinds of deals.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
But I always thought the one bid league thing was
really cool and to where if a team can harness
it together and win their conference tournament, they get in. Look,
there's enough power six, and in college basketball it truly
is a power six. Actually it would be a power

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five right now because the PAC twelve has become the TUPAC.
But it was power six until the PAC twelve disintegrated
because you you have to include the Big East in that,
which of course doesn't factor in football, but you have
to have the Big East involved in basketball, So that
made it a power six.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's power five now in basketball's power FOI.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
In football, those major conferences, they're going to get plenty
of teams in the field. I've never really worried that
much about it. They're gonna get plenty of teams in
the field based on their strength of schedule in their
leagues and even some high profile non conference games like
the one last night in Charlotte for Texas. It's those
one big leagues. Can they catch fire and can they

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get in? And then of course there's that gray area
they're of the mid majors and how many should come
in from certain conferences in the mid majors, So that's understandable.
And I've I've always thought that it was pretty interesting
that dynamic.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
So Jay Billis was.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Working the telecast of the game last night, and he
was working with Dick vitals dig vitel invitation, We're working
with Dave O'Brien, and obviously I was on the radio broadcast,
so i don't know how all of that went down.
I'm sure it went down fine. But Billis does periodically

(06:26):
he updates his top sixty eight teams, and he did
not have Texas in that top sixty eight to start
the season. Last year, he correctly predicted all four Final
four teams, the two Title Game participants, and the national champion.
In addition, he predicted seven of the eight Elite eight teams.

(06:47):
He says, you're welcome, America. He said, of course, it's
too early to prognosticate forward to the twenty twenty six
int Height Tournament. But in the meantime, the Billis Index
that says we'll provide you with a reliable guide to
the He's on periodic updates as things progress. Again, he says,
you're welcome. So just skimming through this starting at sixty eight,

(07:09):
is LSU at sixty eight, Notre Dame sixty seven, Arizona
State sixty six, SMU sixty five. So far, all these
are Power Conference teams, including Providence. If you're talking Big
East sixty four, Oklahoma at sixty three, Virginia Commonwealth wild
be the first mid major not to be you got
them at sixty two. Although I will tell you that

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the A ten is a dangerous basketball league. You know
that from growing up there. What would GW being in
there in.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
The A ten?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, I went to the A ten tournament a couple
of times. Just would would love the four tickets, one
game set up.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, fun absolutely as Georgia Tech sixty one, Northwestern sixty West,
Virginia fifty nine, TCU fifty eight, Syracuse fifty seven, U
S f fifty six, Pitt fifty five, Kansas State fifty four,
for Jinia fifty three, Saint Mary's fifty two, Wake is
fifty one, Memphis is fifty Then inside the top fifty.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
This is Jay Billis and.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
His rankings right now, just right after some initial blush,
including last night's game between Texas and Duke, which which
Duke won. So he's got inside of that top fifty Xavier,
which is of course Sean Miller's former team, forty nine,

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Boise State forty eight, Nebraska forty seven, Saint Louis forty six,
Utah State is forty five, Virginia Tech forty four, then
ins Ohio State, San Diego State, Clemson.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
And Oregon.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Counting down the forty inside the top forty Cincinnati, Marquette, Georgia, Indiana, Missouri,
and he has Texas at number thirty four after seeing
the Longhorns last night, he has them as his thirty
fourth teams in the country. He said Texas had a
tough opening opponent in Duke, but expectations will rise as

(09:06):
Sean Miller's first season in Austin unfolds. He has won
at least twenty games in fifteen of his twenty seasons
of coaching, and though last season's leading scorers Trey Johnson
and Arthur Columba are gone, the long runs do return
Jordan Pope and Tremon Mark. And then, of course, obviously
everybody got introduced to Modus fokatitis last night and what
he's capable of doing. And we'll hear Sean talk about

(09:31):
Matis from the postgame interview last night coming up in
a few minutes. By the way, a number thirty three's
got Texas, A and M one spot ahead of the
long run. Mississippi stated at thirty two, Vanderbilt thirty one.
Ins He stayed at thirty. Inside that top thirty, counting
down from twenty nine, it's Maryland, North Carolina twenty eighth, Auburn,
Michigan State, usc Ole, miss Wisconsin, Baylor, Creighton, and Arkansas

(09:56):
at number twenty and then inside the top twenty Gonzaga, Kansas,
Arizona BYU Iowa State, Alabama, Louisville, Illinois, Texas Tech at eleven,
and UCLA at ten and finally counting down from number
ten with UCLA Tennessee number nine, Kentucky eighth, Michigan seven,
Saint John sixth, Duke five, Yukon four, Florida, the national

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champions from the last year three, Houston number two, and
the number one team he as in the country is Purdue.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
I thought Arizona looked pretty good the other day knocking
off Florida in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So this is going to be It's gonna be interesting
to see how this unfolds during the course of the season.
But I do think what we saw a bit of
something to feel pretty good about for the LOGRNS, and
we're gonna hear from Shawn Miller coming up. As always,

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Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yeah, round.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
This a baby, I'm your.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Man, one of those guys who certainly has etched his
place in the musical round not only with what he'd
done in the rock era of the seventies, but just
fits so comfortably into the yacht rock scene, just like

(12:46):
putting on a good old pair of comfortable shoes.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
James Taylor there with a handyman there.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Starting off for yacht Rock Wednesday, here where we bump
back with different and sundry yacht rock tunes for you
here on this Wednesday afternoon, hoping to get you through
a Wednesday. And you know that's that's for all of us,
certainly hoping we can get through a Wednesday. Longhorns got

(13:19):
through the game last night. The season opened it for taxes,
and I think they surprised a lot of people with
how competitive they were against the six right team in
the country, the Duke Blue Devil's simple water here and
this started after you know, was back and forth first

(13:41):
few minutes. Texas had a four point lead, I think
at ten, six, twelve, eight, something like that. Duke gets
on a run where they hit eight consecutive shots and
they jumped to a nine point lead. At twenty six seventeen,
Sean Miller calls a time out and then after the timeout,
the Longhorns outscore of the Blue Devils the rest of

(14:04):
the first half. And that was at the under eight
when they were down twenty six to seventeen, and they
outscored the rest of the first half sixteen to six,
and the long Horns actually took a one point lead
into the locker room. They were up at the half
thirty three thirty two. My broadcast partner Eddie Orrin, and

(14:25):
we began our twenty fifth season calling Long Run basketball
games together last night. Eddie, of course a former coach
and he's a current scout with the Brooklyn Nets as well.
Eddie observed in the you know, you'd like to talk
about those middle eight last four minutes of the first half,
first four minutes of the second half, last four minutes

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the first half, longers were really good. They were even
good last eight minutes the first half as good as
they were in those last eight minutes the first half.
That's how not good they were to start the second half,
mainly because they couldn't get shots to fall, and Eddie
said would have been interesting to see if they had
had some shots fall in the first few minutes of

(15:07):
the second half to build a lead, to see how
Duke would respond, because the long Wruns did an excellent
job on Cameron Boozer, i McDonald's All American, who was
scoreless in the first half. He was zero for seven
from the floor, missed his only free throw at ten.
Had also a couple of fouls give him some issues.
So that's part of the reason why the Longrun's were

(15:30):
able to build up build into taking a one point
a half time lead. But in the first four minutes
of the second if they ran a great playoff the
inbound start they had the ball start second half, ran
a great play in for a lob to modess focusitis,
and he missed the lob slam. He also missed another
close range shot nearby. But other than that he was

(15:50):
really really good with fifteen points in his in his
Longhorn debut, and we'll hear Sean Miller talking about him
coming up in the postgame interview.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, the TV folks were really impressed with Voca Titis.
One thing that Dicky V was harping on. And yes,
I was listening to Dick E V last night, Guilty
as charged.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I'm glad to do usually all sync up.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
The radio call, but you know, I can't pass up
the chance for dick by tal.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well, and I'm glad you do do that because that
way I get to hear some feedback on what's being
said Nashy about the team.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
So what what they mentioned with Voca Titis was that
he really could take another step by developing a drop step.
There were a couple of times they replayed his his
misses in around the rim and said, boy, if they
drill a good drop step, that's going to be hard
to stop.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, exactly. He quickly became a target for Duke fans.
They thought he was a little rough on their guys,
so they booed him and all this stuff. It's okay
for their guys to be rough, but the opponents they
get on him a little better.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, and they you know, they also commented on the
way the game was kind officiated differently from the first
half to the.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Set astutely different, and we talked about that as well,
Eddie and I did. And this was a really good crew,
a veteran crew with Roger Ayres and Dug Shows and
uh Tony Padilla, really good veteran officiating crew with a
lot of skins on the wall. But they did let

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the guys play a lot looser in the first half.
Second half they got to be a really tightly called game,
and that's why the fouls just ratcheted up immensely for Texas. Now,
to Duke's credit, they made the adjustment and took the
aggressive nature to the Longhorns, and they didn't respond well
enough in some of that, and when they did respond
sometimes the resultant in fouls. So Duke shot a lot

(17:39):
of free throws in the second half and that helped
set up the final margin of fifteen points. But they
build a double digitally long Worns came back cut it
three at nine and a half to go in the game,
so they're right there in the game with nine and
a half to go, That's why I said it. For
three quarters of the game, they're in this ballgame, but
again they couldn't keep from fouling miss Key offensive opportunities,

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and Duke gradually pulls away and they win.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
So we know, we know that.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
This athletic program, be it football, men's basketball, women's basketball, baseball,
whatever it is INNY sports, swimming and diving, track and field, golf, volleyball, tennis, whatever, soccer, whatever,
whatever sport you're talking about, beach, flyball, whatever, whatever sport
you're talking about. Moral victories don't count, and that doesn't

(18:33):
even need to be said. Everybody understands that. But where
moral victories do not count, development has its place. It
doesn't count in the win column, but it has its place,
and it was a step forward in the developmental area.
And that's where we heard about it in my postgame
conversation with Sean Miller, the Long One's head coach.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
After the game, Sean.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Let me get your thoughts first of all, on how
hard your team played and how they were in this
ball game for a lot of it made a great
first half, and then that pushed in the second. I
have to get within three with nine and a half
to go.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Look.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
I think that's the first thing, especially early in the year,
you want a team plays with effort. I thought our
effort was outstanding. I thought our physicality was good throughout
the game. We had a few undisciplined fouls, you know,
reaching coming down with our hands.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
But also credit Duke.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
They're not an easy team to defend, and especially Boozer
the second half. He struggled more than we did in
the first half. But I thought our effort, rebounding, playing hard.
I was there, and you know, I'm disappointed in our offense,
you know, I just we didn't have any fluidity, We
had no pace to what we do some of it,
I just think is where we're at.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
And adding Modese and.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Lesina with them not being a part of what we
were doing for the last month, that doesn't help you.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
So we have to keep getting better.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
But I think playing with more pace, play with more
ball movement, six assist, that's not reflective of how we
want to play the game.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
How about your thoughts on how Madus played.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
You know, it's interesting with modest there are times when
he was like a bull in a china shop, you know,
and just but remember he hasn't played in a while,
and he was really close to having twenty and ten
in this game. I mean, when you look at the
first play of the second half, the lob where he
caught it and missed it. He had a couple right
at the rim that I know he'll make. And he's

(20:29):
an excellent free throw shooter. He's physical, and I think
he's got a bright future. I will tell you when
he got hurt three weeks ago, we weren't sure we
were going to have him for this game. And I
give him a lot of credit for how hard he
worked to be able to play tonight.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
How much your thought song now where it goes for
here and getting ready for Saturday's home opener.

Speaker 7 (20:47):
Number one on our agenda is cutting down on our
turnovers and playing with.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
More fluidity and pass. It will help everybody.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
And you know, look, you play dupe, they can sometimes
make you do things you don't normally do.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
They're an excellent defensive team.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
They got great size and there's a wearing down effect
that they have on your team, and I thought that
really happened to us tonight, but we got to play.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
With more pace.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, So you'll hear more from Sean Miller about this
as the week progresses, leading in to the home opener
Saturday afternoon at two o'clock. We'll have it for you
here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone one
thirty pregame start time, tip off at two o'clock. Course,
we have the Texas women's second game of the season,
also at Moody on Friday night, six forty five. Pre game,

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star time, seven o'clock tip As Texas will take on Richmond.
College football playoff rankings are out. They came out last
night and in countdown form they went Tennessee at twenty five,
Pit twenty four, Washington twenty three, Missouri twenty two, Michigan

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number twenty one, Iowa twenty, USC nineteen, Miami eight teen,
Georgia Tech seventeen, Vanderbilt sixteen, Louisville Fifteenah, Virginia fourteen, Utah thirteen,
Oklahoma's twelve, Texas eleven, the margin of that head to
head victory the difference there, and then in the top
ten Notre Dame, Oregon, Texas Tech BYU O, miss Georgia,

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Alabama four, Texas A and UM three Indiana two.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Ohio State number one.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Now, if you're a long WRN fan, you say, oh eleven, okay,
so I have a playoffs.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Started, we'd be in it.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, that will not be the case because Virginia at
fourteen is the highest of the lowest ranked power for
conference champion and that gets it earns them an automatic bit,
so Texas would be the first team out. So this
is the way it would look the first round matchups.
The nine seed Oregon would play at the eight seed

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Texas Tech, with the winner to face the top seed
Ohio State. The twelve seed Memphis, which is projected to
be the highest ranked G six conference champion. And for
those of you wondering about North Texas, they're tied for
first in the league. They don't play Memphis in the
regular season. I do think all this will sort itself out.

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If North Texas runs the table after beating Navy and
wins the rest of its games, I believe they will
be locked in instead of South Florida, even though South
Florida had the head to head because Memphis beat them,
and I think on the descending order the North Texas
whenever Navy would carry the day over South Florida. So
North Texas would be in the American Conference Championship to

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play Memphis if it were to play out the rest
that way, but there's still football to be played.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah, I mean the American Conference champion in general, unless
there's some very weird scenarios, looks good to represent the
G five. James Madison, though, has an argument about that.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, they do. Their closing schedule is may not be
enough to get them. That's right over the hump there
with that. So I do think the American Conference champ
has the side track on that. Memphis and Twulane this week.
That's a big game, a big game that might sort
some things out there. So the Memphis the twelve seed

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at the number five seed Georgia, with the winner to
play the four seed Alabama.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
By the way, FanDuel hypothetical line on that game Georgia
minus twenty.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
On the bottom part of the bracket, the eleven seed
would be Virginia. They would be the lowest ranked Power
four champion, that's why they would get into the field
in place of Texas, which is currently ranked eleventh. Virginia
would play at number six Old Miss with the winner
to play Texas. A and M the three seed and
then the ten seed Notre Dame still in the field
with those two losses at the number seven seed BYU,

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with the winner to play number two seed Indiana. Of
course b YU and Texas Tech play this week, so
that can shake things up one way or another there
in those rankings. So we'll see how all of that
goes there and we'll have more conversation about out in
the college football playoff rankings. Sorry, up next, we have
Inconceivable here on a yacht Rock Wednesday afternoon. We'll get

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to that three o'clock hour. Greg Tepper, editor in chief
Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, joins us to discuss both
college and high school football in the lone Star State.
This is the final weekend of regular season games in
high school football in Texas and there are some massive games,
including right here in the Austin area. So we'll talk

(25:27):
about all of that college football and more here only
yacht Rock Wednesday on sports Medio AM thirteen under the
zone of the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Second hour of the.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Program here on sports Medio AM thirteen under the zone
here on a yacht Rock Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Glad to have you with us.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Greig Way with you alongside the producer Jay Carmon, thank
you very much for joining us. Didn't you have yesterday
in your in Inconceivable? So I thought I heard part
of it when it was between that and going downstairs
in the hotel that Tom Brady said his dog is
a clone.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, a clone of his dog that passed away
two years ago.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Okay, all right, I don't think that's a bad idea
now I think about it.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
If you can do it, you know, if you can
pull that off.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I know they've cloned sheep and other animals and things
like that. So I have a twelve year old Schnauzer.
I don't know how much longer we have with her,
although she's still pretty pretty spry off of that. But
my wife would probably say it's probably best not to
clone her because she's a very loving dog to Linda
and me, and there are others that she barks like

(26:39):
schnauzers do, and can take a very guarded, protective approach.
If we just happen to be in the same room,
even inclusive of my youngest son, she'll we like get away,
you know, barking at him. Some nuns And yeah, maybe
it's she's a she's a little bit unbalanced on some thing.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
So the question becomes is that nature or could you
train the dog differently the second time around?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, maybe if you started it, because she wasn't like
that earlier and then she got kind of grumbly later on.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
All of that, I know schnauzers gonna do that. My
mom and a schnauzer growing up, love the dogs.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I've had him a long time and they have a
lot of personality, no doubt about him, a lot of personalities.
Around the NFL trade deadline coming and going yesterday, we'll
hear from Brian Schottenheimer. Coming up in a few minutes,
I mean, well later this hour. Coming up in a
few minutes, We're gonna talk football of the collegiate in
high school variety in the state of Texas with Greg Tepper,

(27:35):
the editor in chief day Camis Texas football magazine. But
a lot of talk about the Cowboys deals, the Colts
making the deals that they made. I always find it
interesting in talking about the players who weren't traded and
are they happi or not. And one of those was

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David Najoku, the Rounds tight end, said he he was
terrified thinking he was going to be traded. He wanted
to trade, wants to stay with Cleveland's played his entire
nine year career there, even as bad as the Browns
have been over time. So hearing and reading the contrast

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between those is interesting.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Priest Hall wanted to be traded.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, wasn't. Apparently the Jets couldnt get enough value for him.
Early in the year. Word was, you probably could have
gotten him for about a fourth round pick.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Now the Chiefs apparently offered that. The Jets insisted on
a third And you can see it from both sides,
because he's going to be an unrestricted free agent.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yep, you're running a player basically. I'll tell you another
thing that's an interesting dynamic. The Arizona Cardinals. Now they
looked pretty much dead in the water. But hey, I
picked him, Yeah you did?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
You did? You need to exactly have to go way
out on a limbit.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
No, Cardinals were not going to be contenders this year,
especially in that division.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
But I'm saying I picked them to win on Monday.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Oh oh, I thought you picked them to not be
good this year.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Oh that too, Okay, all right, two for two on
the Cardinals, Okay, I got you, all right. So Jacoby
Brissette plays quarterback for the injured Kyler Murray, and he
quarterbacks the Cardinals to a win of the Cowboys. He
played well, and the Cardinals announced they're going to stick
with Brissette instead of Murray for their game against Seattle.

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Two huge games in the NFC West this Sunday Rams
forty nine Ers rematch from the game San Francisco won.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
In La So.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Rams forty nine Ers and Seahawks Cardinals, two really big
games rematches, and the Cardinals had said they're going to
go ahead and stick with Jacoby Brissette Brissette for that.
Now they've taken it a step further. Kyler Murray's going
on ir.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
So they're saying, well, but this, but this might be
spun another way, Craig. It might be spun as them
saying no, no, Kyler is still our starter, but he's
not healthy enough and maybe that's just a covering of
optics or maybe he definitely needs more time.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, I think no. I think you're right. I think
that's the escape hatch for them to go down. They
don't have to say to Kobe Brissette now is the
starting course, BAC, especially with the amount of money they
have tied up in Kyler Murray, and it's a lot
as we know, remember the whole thing about the contract
and don't be playing video games and you know, be

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doing what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
A new call of duty comes out soon.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, Well, now he's on the IR for four weeks,
so he can probably do some more call of duty.
At that point, Kyler Murray's been placed on injuries or
due to that foot injury. Murray and the team consulted
with multiple foot doctors about the injury and they've been
told upon Hospiele timetable for his recovery could mean anywhere

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from four to eight weeks because of an increased likelihood
of a setback unless it heals properly. So if it
went totally eight weeks going back to October fifth, when
he first you know, had to be sidelined, it would
take it to the game through the game with Tampa
Bay on November thirtieth. So meanwhile, we're Sett's averaging two

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hundred eighty six passing yards and it's three starts. He's
thrown for six touchdowns only one interception. The average, the
offense is averaging twenty six points and three hundred and
fifty seven yards per game.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
They're looking like they have some life.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, and they're doing it without too much of a
run game. I mean, it has been the pass game
that's that's carried him.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
So how about this, The Colts make the trade with
the Jets to get sauce Gardener, right, two firsts, Yeah,
and the Jets asked for a twenty twenty seven to
make sure we go. They're looking at the future to
see where, you know, where it's going to go from there,

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and so the Colts ask for the twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's because.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
The Colts, I would think, have pretty much cast their
lot with Indiana Jones. Yep, they've gone with Daniel Jones.
So normally, if you're giving up that kind of draft
capital first round picks, you're probably not thinking about a
quarterback anytime soon. So Jones may well be the answer

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to them, at least in the short term anyway. But anyway,
the Colts play this Sunday, and they are and they
would love to have they'd love to be able to
have Sauce Gardner ready to play for their game against

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the Falcons. Here's the one thing the games in Berlin,
so can they get him there and can they get
him acclimated to the schedule? Can they get him ready
to go?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
That's I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, yeah, So that's why it's going to be interesting
to see if they can have that all ready to go,
all right, ready to go for us. We'll be Greg Tepper,
editor in chief Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine. We'll visit
with him next here on thirteen under the zone of
the iHeartRadio app. Forget he's the godfather of yat Rock,

(33:31):
not Greg Tepper, Michael McDonald there see. Tip is normally
on with us on Tuesdays, but because I was out yesterday,
he's on today, the editor in chief of David Campbell's
Texas Football Magazine. So I just thought it would be
apropos to bring in. I guess the godfather of Dave

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Campbell's Texas Football Magazine would would be the late Dave
Campbell himself. But now you become the coppo boss, right?
Is that is that how I work?

Speaker 8 (34:01):
Yeah, interim boss, I would say, you know, like like
it's it's it's kind of thing like you know, if
I'm playing up the string here with Dave Campbell's you know,
I'm trying to trying to get it, get us cross
the fish line gets into the playoffs, certainly not certainly,
didn't get hired for.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
The big job out of the gates, but rose my
way through the rain. So that's probably the way to
think about it, Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
And and the reason why I select that, So I'm
going to keep forgetting is to say the opposite of
the ask, because you and I never forget what week eleven,
the final weekend, the final Friday night, Thursday night and
Friday night of the regular season is. And we'll get
to that at a moment, but I want to start
with college. And in your Dave Campbell's Texas Football power Pole,
for those who haven't seen it, you can go to

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the Texas Football dot com. That's well also where you
see the great subscription offers and everything you get for
the subscription. So spots one and two, no surprise there
a and m number one, Tech number two. Texas went
up to number three because of Houston's loss. About that,

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and then and then you've got North Texas at number four,
up two more spots. I gotta tell you, Tip as
an alum of the Little School in Denton, it's.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Not that little a of forty five thousand students.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
But anyway, as an alum of that school, I was
almost I got to say all most and my mind
was a little occupied because I was calling basketball season
opener in Charlotte between Texas and Duke last night, but
I had the college football playoff rankings up on my iPad.
I was almost disappointed to not see the Me and
Green in the.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Top twenty five. They're not there, but they're not that
far from it either, are they.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I'll tell you this.

Speaker 8 (35:42):
We'll zoom in here on North Texas here in a moment.
But across the state of Texas, I think there are
legitimately six teams in the state of Texas that are
in play for the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I want to be clear, they're not.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
All getting in, because some of them would are are
you the Big twelve?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
For example?

Speaker 8 (36:00):
They can only get one spot in. But I think
there are six teams that could say, yeah, we got
a shot at the playoffs. You know, when you take
a look at Texas A and M Texas Tech, Texas,
North Texas TCU, I don't think a ton of people
are talking about.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
And then SMU.

Speaker 8 (36:13):
I mean, heck, you can even throw in Houston if
you wanted to, if you could squint and forgive them
for what was a pretty disappointing loss. But this is
in my mind, a really really strong year across the board.
Now we take a look specifically in North Texas. That
win over Navy was really impressive because in a lot
of ways that Navy is one of those teams that

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they dictate the terms of engagement tomorrow phrase, they dictate
the way the game tends to go, and it is
up to you as an opponent to wrestle either beat
them at that game or to wrestle that control away
from them.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
And this is a game that was played fundamentally at
North Texas's pace. I mean, this is a game.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
That they went out there and they established themselves as
the as the dominant team in this game and really
kind of never looked back. I mean, thirty one, you know,
thirty one seventeen is impressive, and certainly Navy was able
to get theirs. But I think we take a look
at what North Texas did against Davy.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I think Eric Morphon's right. I think he said it
was the most complete performance they've have in the year.
I think He's exactly right.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
That's a very strong defensive performance, which hasn't always been
the case. And the offense, while the numbers are not
going to jump out at you for, especially for an
offense that we've become spoiled about hanging you know, half
a hundred on every team.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
That's an impressive performance.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
Out there, and it sets them up really beautifully for
a final flurry here at the end of the at
the end of the year, in my opinion, a pretty
manageable finish to the season that has been thinking really really.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Big of them.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, I guess that's that's the thing, isn't it is?
Obviously in their case, they they've got to run the table,
and I think I think if they run the table,
they'll be in the American Conference Championship on tiebreakers loan
if it works out that way way. So they just
kind of handle their business or off this week. But
they've got at UAB at Rice and the Temple at home,

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and so they would probably uh probably be in there. Okay,
let me ask you about the team at the top
of your rankings. Here's Texas A and m uh the
Aggies rate in oh barring a loss to Samford and
and and then either to South Carolina or your alma
mater or Missouri. Are they already in the playoff regardless

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of what they do down here.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
In Austin on Thanksgiving weekend?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yes, I think there is.

Speaker 8 (38:32):
I think right now it would take a pretty catastrophic
uh you know, uh, you know fall from grace for
North Texas to or for A and M to miss
the playoff, simply because if you look at their body
of work right now, they have two very strong road winds,
a win over Notre Dame and a win over LSU.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Now the Notre Dame not Dame is doing them.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Along favors right now bye bye by being as good
as they have been in rebounding as strongly as they
have rebound, and that is really booting them. Who knows
how the LSU, you know, win holds up now that
you know they're they're going to be without their head coach.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
That is going to That remains to be seen. But
I think you're exactly right.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
Essentially, barring a loss to Samford. Uh, they were there
there And now look, I think that if you are
Mike Elco, you're saying, let's go out there.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
And let's make this no doubt, let's leave no doubt.

Speaker 8 (39:24):
And certainly if they were to finish let's even say
three to one down the stretch, and they were to
lose that game on the forty acres, then I think
that even then they would they would lay claim to
being in the in the in the playoff.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
I think that especially because of the.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
Strength of the SEC, and we saw the playoff. Of course,
you saw the the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Of the rankings last night. Uh.

Speaker 8 (39:46):
Obviously the committee, through no surprise, thinks very very highly
of the SEC. I think that it would take something really,
really catastrophic for A and M to miss the playoff.
At this point, I think they've probably already done.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Enough to be in that field at twelve.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I think far more fascinating scenario is what's going on
in the Big twelve, as you started to allude to,
starting with the fact that the number two team in
the FPS power polls Texas Tech. Here they are eight
and one and the Red Raiders have three games remaining,
and you know, West Virginia can be a little bit
of a minefield, and they prove that they could be

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tough when they stunned Houston the other day. But it's
been a down yere for the Mountaineers. You would think
Tech could handle its business in Morgantown. You cf on
their senior Day. You know they're going to handle their
business the game. If the game's afoot, and that's this
week with College game Day there and BYU, that's the
fascinating one to me.

Speaker 8 (40:39):
Yeah, So to me, this is the season right here
for Texas Tech. If you win this game, you have
an extremely clear path to the Big twelve Championship game,
extremely clear. If you lose this game, then it kind
of all goes to not and people are going to
start start start scratching their heads.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
This is where that.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
Lost Arizona State really comes back to bite them because
if you if you were undefeated come to this games,
you are nine and zero coming to this game, and
you were to lose a close one the same way
you didn't get Arizona State, lose something like that, I
think you're still in the race. I think you've still
got an opportunity because because hey, you know what, the
YU a good team and you're and you're still in

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play for the Big twelve championship game, maybe even a
rematch against the YU. Right, But by losing that game
to Arizona State. You have lost your buffer. You have
lost your ability to lose a game. You lost that
that that game that you needed to have. They're not
putting a two lost Big twelve team in the college
football playoff in my opinion at least too. You know,

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certainly not two regular season losses. And so if you're
type of tack, it kind of all comes.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Down to this. Now you still, of course you mentioned
you still got to take care of business against.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
Uh let's call them feisty U C Up in West
virgin needs to teams. But if you win this week,
you do feel like it's within sight for everything that
they've they've built up for out there in love it
and it's got to be exactly what you want, right.
You got them at home, big crowd rabbit out there
in lomb.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
It's the biggest home game in quite some time.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
This feels like a real kind of prove it moment
here for the Red Raiders, and I don't think if
they were to win this game out I think there
will be any doubt that they belong in that conversation
with the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I'm talkoet football here with Greg Chepper, the editor in
chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. The Big twelve
standings themselves are kind of spooky because you brought it up.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
How you know, Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Certainly controls its own fate, but you mentioned TCU there
on the periphery of three and two, you got Arizona
State four and two, you taugh four and to Houston
Ford two. Cincinnati coming off that loss to Utah is
five and one.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Of of course, b yu's unbeaten.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
So while Texas Tech might control its own path as
well as BYU, beyond that, it's a messive Either whichever
one of those teams loses is going to find itself
in a fight depending on tiebreakers and how the rest
of those are the schools contend down the stretch, and
that includes TCU being in the mix.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
Earlier you called me a compo. Uh, you know for this,
allow me to use a mafia phrase.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
We can do this the easy way, or we can
do this the hard way. Because the easy way is
that you know, Texas Tech wins this wins this game,
BYU finishes out, uh.

Speaker 8 (43:21):
And then and then suddenly you know there's going to
be a tiebreaker situation between let's just say, you know,
b YU, by the way, plays Cincinnati down the road.
So let's say Cincinnati keeps winning, they'll sort that out.
They can certainly rise to the occasion, right or if
your BYU, you say, hey, we say above the phrase,
we win this game against Texas Tech, suddenly you know,
every other team kind of has to fall back to us,
and we've got an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
We can do this the easy way.

Speaker 8 (43:42):
There is also a way where this thing goes caddywompus
in a hurry and suddenly you've got multiple teams with
you know, with stuff there at one loss, uh there
maybe even if it's fall down to two losses in
conference play.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
This to me is a really a really.

Speaker 8 (43:59):
Fascinating breakdown just because of a couple of results here
and there. We get this in the high school ranks,
of like, there are some districts where everything goes apart
and the number one team are the number one team
in the district beats everyone else, the second best team
beats everyone except the number one team, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
And there's other districts where it just goes crazy and.

Speaker 8 (44:16):
You got to get out the advocates for the district's
tiebreaker and stuff like that. I think twelve is certainly
playing in many ways like a Texas high school football district, potentially.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Such perfect timing as we visit with gret Tepper from
Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, because we're going to go
to the high school ranks.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I like the piece that Matt Stepp did about the
win or go home Week eleven games. You know, we
always talk about this, you know, unwrapping the playoff package
and all that other kind of stuff, the fun of this,
and it's it's high tension, no doubt for these teams
that if they win, they get in. If they don't win,

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they ain't getting in. And there's a lot of that
across the.

Speaker 8 (44:54):
Stateium Yeah, it's to me, this is the fir. You
got to think of it like this. The playoffs starting
this week for a number of teams. In fact, the
playoffs started last.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Week for a couple of teams.

Speaker 8 (45:06):
And now that's not as clean as this one here
in Week eleven, where we've got twenty.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Two games across the state of Texas.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
And the UI eleven man rings. That are as simple
as it gets. The winner is going to the playoffs.
They have a date next week, with the opponents to
be determined, and the loser of.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
That game is blown up basketballs on Monday. It is
a different kind of set of urgency here.

Speaker 8 (45:29):
And yeah, I think that it also gives us an
opportunity to kind of take our eye off the ball
a little bit and focus on some games that otherwise
maybe would fly under your radar, right, Like I'll give
you an example. Of course, you know, Gleena Park, north
Shore and Summer Creek play this week. That's fantastic game.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I'm excited about that.

Speaker 8 (45:46):
And yet Berg Bernett and Mineral Wells are playing this
week and they have much higher stakes, much higher tension
in that game than whether or not Northshore wins and
outright DiscT championship where they have to share it.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Right. That's the kind of thing that I think is
more fun here is that.

Speaker 8 (46:01):
You've got all of these very different set of urgencies
colliding here.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
And certainly there are some teams that are.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
Playing games that winning a distort championship matters. Liberty Hill
and Bastard play this week in a really really big
game for district championship that matters for seeding reasons. But
even you know, both those teams know they're in the playoffs, you.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Know, teams like let's see teams like Prance, Carlisle and Kerns.

Speaker 8 (46:23):
They don't know if there's a tomorrow, they don't know
if if they're playing. They've got practice on Monday, and
that I think makes this a really fun time of year,
and especially a.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Really fun week of the season.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Okay, so before I give you the games that you
have to choose one, and before we even get to that,
you mentioned some of the games as well, So it
sounds like you're kind of like me. You're more fascinated
by the who gets in who doesn't get in, the
coin flip, the point differential, the mess that could happen

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in twenty five six A which is still out there,
not completely resolved yet. It's got a little more clear
but not complete clarity on that. It sounds like you're
more tuned into those than saying obviously, like you said,
two teams that are playing for a district a north
Shore thing agains Summer Creek.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah, I think that those those games, district title games
and seating games.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
You know, the thing is that we get another opportunity
to look at that, like the fall, there is a
lot shorter than it is for El Paso East Lake
and El Paso Cornado. That to me is and that's
what makes this week so singular is that next week
it's level playing field for everybody playing and simple everyone
understands the assignment. I don't have to remember a single

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district tiebreaker after Saturday night, like I can.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I can.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
I can let them escape my brain forever because we're
drawing up the district in February. It's something that I
can just offload of my brain. U This week, though,
is so singular in that result as a result, that's
what makes is so much fun. And to me, why
you're going to be paying attention, you know to Tobo,
Pickson in Rivercrest or Perryton and Borger in matchups there

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as opposed to you know, the big highly ranked games
and teams that are there playing, you know, for a
district championship.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
That to me is fun.

Speaker 8 (48:16):
But because the states are a little bit lower, it
makes those other games kind of rise. In the case
next week, all that kind of gets flattened out, and
we understand the assignment.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
You win, you get to play another week till you lose.
It's over.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I'll give you another one.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
How about Lanier and Burbank there because there could be
a win and in situation for Burbank lose out, Lanier
could get thrust into a muddy, muddy mess. All of
this behind Sam Houston, which is going to be the
is the district champion. They've already clinched it. But that's
a that's another mess. And Lanier's a pretty good story
this year.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, Lanier has been a fantastic story.

Speaker 8 (48:50):
That's a team we had a really high host for
coming into the season, and they put together the votes
that put together the season.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
It's not long ago they were searching for their first
playoff win or playof.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
Appearance in some number of years. But the folks have
put together a really nice season. And you're right, you know,
there's there's really high stakes here as far as you know,
both those teams are going to be in the playoffs,
but they've got to be able to settle things on
the field and an opportunity to to grab you know,
a higher seed. And and that's one of the things
that in my opinion, you know, you talk about avoiding
the district eleven to five A division Division two and

(49:23):
so look, you've finished fourth in that district. You're playing
the winner of Bastrip and Liberty Hill, like you don't
want that playing and simple and so uh, make make
no mistakes. Every coach in the Stafe is keenly aware
of all.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Of the implications. In fact, we do have a situation. Oh,
I wish I could find it. Let me see, I
can do it real quickly. We do have a situation.

Speaker 8 (49:44):
Where there is a team that if they are winning,
winning by a certain amount, it may be better for.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Them to give up a touchdown. It's it's very very interesting,
and we see I can find a couple.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Yeah, it happened a couple of years ago. Is kind
of kind of legendary there. Received so it's Wharton. Wharton
plays swinging. Okay, if they're down by nine, then they
would be Then they may intentionally allow a score simply
because if you take a look at the way that
things break out in just a ten to four.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
A Division two, they.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
Could actually benefit by losing by moreau they knock another
team out of the playoffs. It's wild and crazy, and
every coach in the state has every staff in the
state has one coach who understands deeply the tie breaker
and will be standing right next to the head coach
understanding everything that goes on. It's it's a wild, pretty
singular week in Texa.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
High school football.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I view it as like the high school version of
the collegiate head coaches.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
There.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
They have one guy who knows everything about the portal
and everything that's going on with nil about this is
this needs to happen that. I'll give you another one.
You mentioned ten four a D two.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
How about ten four a D one where you have
a four way tie for first and any number of
sixteen combinations could happen with Bridge City, Huffman, Hargrave, Lumberton,
and Little Cypress Mauriceville, and they should all be good
games because Bridge City plays uh Huffman Hargrave and LCM
plays Lumberton. It could be a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
That's what's great is that you are looking within because
of that.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
The good thing for all.

Speaker 8 (51:19):
Four of those teams that they know they're in right like,
they don't have to worry about dropping out of the playoffs.
But you've got teams that can drop as far drop
as far as fourth. You know one of these teams
is going to do that because you're gonna have these
teams Hufbman Hargrave, playing Bridge City and Lumbers and playing
Little Cypress Bristol. Well, they're all already beat up on
each other. And so the other thing that you're gonna
have is you're gonna have a coach up in the
booth who's gonna have his iPad out, and he's gonna

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be on the day of Campbell's app refreshing the score
of that other game because they need not just to win,
but have the other correct team to win. Like we're
gonna pick the lock here and figure out exactly what
the combination is and make no mistakes. There's massive implications
in this one because if you finish in fourth place
in this you're playing.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Kilgork in the first round.

Speaker 8 (52:02):
And by the way, if you patied third place, you're
playing Lyndale, which is no you know, no real picnic.
So there's huge implications in this one. That's every coaching
staff in the state I'm sure has a clipboard or
some sort of thing that they are keeping track of
everything so they know how can we best set ourselves
up for the bracket reveal coming up Saturday.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I got to ask you, is I asked you about
it several weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Did you ever think we'd live in a world where
Aquilla plays Abbot and Aquilla is a twenty nine point
pick of the computer to beat the abboit in this game.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
And I'll tell you what that to me says. It's
a relatively down year for Abbot.

Speaker 8 (52:40):
They're very very young down there, big rivalry game in
center six man football. But I think it also says
a lot about Aquilla. Aquilla has been on the come
up for quite some time.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
P c.

Speaker 8 (52:50):
Hennig, who was probably the freshman of the year last
year is now the sophomore of the year and six
man football, hes mister do everything for Aquilla. You're right,
it's remarkable from like historical perspective because Abbott has for
people who knows six capable, Abbott has just had a
quill of number. Even when it quill has been good,
Abbot's kind of been better.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
This interest.

Speaker 8 (53:09):
This is where where the shoe is certainly on the
other foot and the quill is a clear favorite. It
is it is, uh, you know, macessary as it would say.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
All right, Uh, the meanest thing we do to each
other each week, I give you three games you pick one.
I'm going completely different this week. This will be different
than the three or at least probably two of the three,
at the very least three games that you will present
to me tomorrow, because this, my friend, since we're in
a hotbed of it down here with lots of stuff

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on the line, all three games will be in the
Greater Austin Central Texas area, all three. So in other words,
you're coming down here, You're having Franklin's Barbecue. Uh, you're
going to want in a million for breakfast tacos.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
You're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
You're gonna do that, and you're gonna and then you're
gonna settle in at one of these three games. And
by the way, none of the three are Westlake Dripping
Springs none.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Oh okay, okay, I thought I thought I might.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Westlake Drip, by the way, is for the top seed
in the D two bracket, so there is a lot
riding on the line on that.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
But all right, here you go.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
You've got Georgetown and Cedar Park with a district title
on the line.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
You got Liberty Hill and bass Drop.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
As you mentioned, of course, voice of the bass Drop
Bears is none other than Jay Carmon.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
The producer of this program.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
And you've got tomorrow night Anderson and Weiss with a
stunningly unbeaten Anderson. By the way, this is something you
and I always nerd about, geek about what's the first
by district playoff peering you've already heard, got it Anderson
Friends Wooded House Park a week from Saturday at three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
It's booked.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
So yeah, those are starting to come down. I'm starting
to get those text messages of saying, hey, by the way, we've.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
Got our We can't you're not announce in it yet,
but but here you go. Okay, Uh, Anderson weis and
Wis is fascinating, but because things are locked in, Uh,
the only thing here real is Ken Anderson Polish office
first ever undefeated regular season, which would be such an
enormous an enormous accomplishment there for the Trojans seor Parkins

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and Georgetown is really intriguing as well.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
You know they're in Distry eight five A Division one.

Speaker 8 (55:14):
I think that that's a fascinating ballgame. Honestly, what jet
Walker has in that game? That's the game we're gonna
be streaming on the day of Campbell's YouTube.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
After you want to watch that.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
I am going to go with Bastard and Liberty Hill.
I love this game because this to me, you know,
Liberty Hill with the team we kind of I think
state wide maybe forgot about because they started oe and
two and we're like, oh, well, okay, it's down here.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
For Liberty Hill.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
Well, allways done is rattle off seven straight. The slot
Tea is humming Dylan Balinga and Preston Benfield, and I
think that that defense, which was much in the line
of the earlier of the seasons, has gotten better and better. Well,
here's your final exam, because you were taking on the
number one scoring offense in all of five A Division
two with Weston Nielsen and Gary Jefferson Junior, and that

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Bastrid attack sixty three points per game. They are exceptionable.
So this to me is a real referendum on both defenses.
Can Bastard diagnose and slow down the slot seat and
how far has Liberty He'll come? Fascinating ballgame for a
district CHAMPISONI and by the way, it's Bastrom seeking their
first undefeated regular season since nineteen ninety one. So along
on the line there for the Bears, aside from a

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district championship. Would I would be at the Panther Stadium
in Liberty Hill.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah, Jake's pretty fired up about Bastrop.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
Are you do?

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (56:25):
You want to? You want to come on in? We
got room for you in the booth.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Listen, let me let me talk to my wife.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
I think this is actually my first Friday night of
the year off and so because we moved our show
SAT to Saturday, we're doing our big bracket reveal at
ten thirty pm. And I think I might have promised
her a date. And so as much as I like you, Jake,
I think I like my wife.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, yeah, probably need to do that. I leave you
with this.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Out of that eight five a d one like you said,
you know, Georgetown Cedar Park will play for a top seed.
Then the other two playoff teams was going to be
one of them.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Now, Raws, who.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Who won that hard faught game with Lake Belton's in
the driver's seat as long as they handle their business
against fellow North Side of the Leander SD opponent Glenn
Rawse will win that hard fought game to earn the
right to play Highland Park and by district that's in
l partment. That's if Hyland Park handles Midloath the end,

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and they probably will.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
But yeah, that's that's that's a huge, huge game. Because
here's the thing is that you know, you want to.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
Talk about like ripple effects, like little things that we
try to flag you on whenever they happen. Go back
two years ago to realignment, and this district is put
in red District eight instead of District nine.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
It's a small thing.

Speaker 8 (57:41):
It's oh, there's just Act eight five a tovidyonder. They go, okay,
it's interesting that has to change the number.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Well.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
Yeah, but also because it's in Region two, that means
that you're playing all your playoff games against the DMW teams.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (57:54):
That is that is chickens coming home to roost for
realignment decisions.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Way back two years ago.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
And so yet and by the way, they would have
to go almost certainly two Island Parks play it to
play at Highlander Stadium, where they are notoriously un friendliness strangers.
That will be a really really fun matchup if Ralph
can get past their Glenn and making no mistake, Glenn
would love Glenn's not playing for much. Boy, Glenn could

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feel like games of the world if they can knock
out Rouse the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
This is one thing we always look forward to the
final week of the regular season. He's Greg Tapper, editor
in chief of Dave Campbells Texas football magazine Chap. Next
week we'll preview. We'll actually have brackets. Isn't that a
cool deal?

Speaker 3 (58:38):
I'm looking forward to my friend.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
All right, thanks? All right.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
That's Greg Tepper and he joins us each week, normally
on Tuesdays, in this case on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
We have more coming up. We'll continue on thirteen under
the zone.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Wish uh said, night.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
As Hella yacht rock of offering there Michael Johnson, it
was kind of a thing happened in the late seventies before,
just kind of fitting off.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
He had a couple of big hits.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Bluer than Blue was probably his biggest hits, but this
was one too.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
It was a minor hit. Yet I know this night
won't last forever.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
It looks a little like Owen Wilson.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Okay, sorry, hey.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Point of clarification about eight five A d one I
mentioned about Ralph the head to head wind they owned
that is important is not over Lake Belton. They lost
to Lake Belton, as Jake pointed out during the break
there in the district over but last week's twenty four
to twenty one win over Eastview was important because here's

(59:55):
what the Eastview I said, they're headed for the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
They've got to win.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
They have to win at Leander because if they don't,
if they don't win at Bible, and let's say Lake
Belton handles Chaparral and then Rouse beats Glen Rouse would
have the head to had tie break on Eastview. That's
what the difference is. I mentioned Rouse in Lake Belt
and mens State Rowse in Eastview. That's where there's so
that's not that's not settled. Seeds three and four participants

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three and four not yet settled on that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So that's not that's not there yet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
But probably the fore seed is almost certainly gonna wind
up facing Highland Park in the by district round of
the playoffs. Georgetown's Cedar Park could be one and two,
but Cedar Park could slide the third because East Few
owns a win over Cedar.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Park, right, So that's the lone district loss for Cedar Park.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
That's why Seeds two, three and four are not yet
set and so U and you have you know those
Cedar Park is in the postseason. East View, Riles and
Lake Belton are vying for that final spot there. So
just wanted to make sure we would clear on that
and let everybody know, you know, what the situation is

(01:01:11):
there and what a great matchup tomorrow night Anderson and Weiss.
Anderson trying for an unbeaten season. That's going to be
unbeaten regular season. That's going to be the kb v
O big game of the week that they're televising. And
Roger Wallsoll joined us on the program more afternoon to
talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
About that Anderson Weiss's matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Weiss comes off that that surprising loss a week ago
ended up losing a heartbreaker to College Station, who wrapped
up the regular.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Season Turnovers Turnovers killed. Weis in that one very even game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah, so we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
And that's in five A Division one, and then obviously
in six A things are far from settled.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
First of all, in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Twenty five to six A, Vangriff is in the driver's
seat to be the top seed in the Division two bracket,
but they haven't clinched that yet because McNeil owns a tiger.
Now McNeil's got a hands full of hudder. Tomorrow night,
Vandergriff plays round Rock. Those are two big games right there.

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If Vandergriff wins, they have at least a share of
the district title and they would be the top seed
in the D two bracket. Huddo if it defeats McNeil
would have at least a share of the district title
and they would be the top seed in the Division
one bracket. McNeil could get to six and two with
a win, their Round Rock can try to get the
six and six and two and if both of those

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teams win, If round Rock wins and McNeil wins, those
are your other two, and of course round Rock will
go D one and be the runner up to Huddle
in the D one bracket. McNeil then would be the
run up to Vandergriff. If Vandergriff handles its business, this
Oridge still a shot. They've got to beat Westwood and
then they need some help. They're really kind of rooting

(01:03:05):
Vista Ridge for McNeil to win, because if McNeil wins,
this Ridge owns the tiebreaker on Round Rock. But they
don't own the tiebreaker on McNeil. Yeah, they're also rooting
for Vandergriff. No, yes, yeah, They've got to have round
Rock lose one more game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
That's right. So those are the two teams they're rooting
for tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Awhile, if round Rock wins, vander Griff has got to
play the winner of Dripping Springs and Wesley.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
If if Huddle, well adapt yeah, if Huddle wins, excuse
you not Huddo. If McNeil wins over Huddle, because McNeil
was going to Vision two, Huddle's going to Vision one.
McNeil has to win and Vandergriff has to lose to
create that tie, and that's where McNeil will get the
top seeding.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
The D two bracket said this yesterday, McNeil five and
zero at home one in three away from the Palace
on Parler. They've got to flip that trend at Huddle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
And the one thing left to be decided in twenty
six six a who is the top seed in the
D two brackets the Winter at chap Stadium tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
It is either Westlake or Drip.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Computer likes Westlake by five Computer by the way, likes
Liberty Hill only by three.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
It's bast drop all night. So you'll know. Computer likes
Vandergriff by six over Round Rock.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
The computer says Huddle is ten better than McNeil says
Round Rock like I said, six point dog to Vandergriff
and it's got Vista. It likes by seven against Westwood.
So there you go. All right, we'll be back to
wrap up hour number two and thirteen Under the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Zone, third and final hour of the program here on
Sports Radio AM thirteen Under the Zone. Glad to have
you with us here on this Wednesday afternoon, a Yack

(01:04:54):
Rock Wednesday. Coming up, we're gonna hear from Vick Schaeffer,
Texas women's head coach. We're going to hear from Brian Schottenheimer,
the Cowboys head coach. But I wanted to for those
of you might have missed it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
We had it right near the start of the two
o'clock hour, and we know sometimes we get some new
people getting out of the office get in the car
to hear from the head coach of the Long Wrned
men's basketball team, that of course being Sean Miller. After
the Long Warns had a very spirited and hard fought effort.

(01:05:27):
The keyword there is effort on that because that's one
thing that Sean and this coaching staff require of this
team is relentless effort, and I think they gave that
to them last night to the extent that they were
down nine in the first half to six ranked Duke
playing in Duke's backyard, and make no mistake about it,
it was a hugely partisan Duke crowd, but everybody expected

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them and fought back from down nine at twenty six
to seventeen at the under eight time out to taking
a one point lead at halftime at thirty three thirty two.
They finished the first half on a sixteen to six run,
had an ice cold spell to start the second a half,
missed their first eight shots. Duke then pushed the lead
out to eleven. Back came the Long Warns with a

(01:06:12):
run and cut it to three at fifty one forty
eight with nine and a half minutes to go. But
credit Duke taking the game to them physically. The game
called a little tighter in the second not a little.
It was called tighter in the second half, and they
made free throws and the long runs din't do enough
down the stretch offensively to win. Duke wins the game
seventy five to sixty, but there were signs to be upbeat,

(01:06:35):
positive encouraged about for this long worn basketball team. And
that was part and parcel of my conversation after the
game with head coach Sewn Miller. Sean, let me get
your thoughts first of all, on how hard your team
played and how they were in this ball game for
a lot of it made a great first half, and
then that pushed in the second half to get within
three with nine and a half to go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Thirty six years Ye.

Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Look, I think that's the first thing, especially early in
the year, on a team plays with effort. I thought
our effort was outstanding. I thought our physicality was good
throughout the game. We had a few undisciplined fouls, you know,
reaching coming down with our hands.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
But also credit Duke.

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
They're not an easy team to defend him, especially Boozer
the second half. He struggled more than he did in
the first half. But I thought our effort, rebounding, playing
hard was there. And you know, I'm disappointed in our offense,
you know, I just we didn't have any fluidity.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
We had no pace to what we do.

Speaker 7 (01:07:33):
Some of it, I just think is where we're at
and adding Modest and Lesina with them not being a
part of what we were doing for the last month,
that doesn't help you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
So we have to keep getting better.

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
But I think playing with more pace, playing with more
ball movement, six assist, that's that's not reflective of how
we want to play the game.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
How about your thoughts on how madis played.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
You know, it's interesting with Modest. There are times when
he was like a bull in the china shop, you
know it just but remember he hasn't played in a while,
and he was really close to having twenty and ten
in this game.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
I mean when you look at.

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
The first play of the second half, the lob where
he caught it and missed it. He had a couple
right at the rim that I know he'll make. And
he's an excellent free throw shooter. He's physical, and I
think he's got a bright future. I will tell you
when he got hurt three weeks ago, we weren't sure
we were going to have him for this game. And
I give him a lot of credit for how hard
he worked to be able to play tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
How much your thold song that where goes for here
and getting ready for Saturday's home opener.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
Number one on our agenda is cutting down on our
turnovers and playing with more fluidity and pass.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
It will help everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:08:42):
And you know, look, you play dupe, they can sometimes
make you do things you don't normally do. They're an
excellent defensive team. They got great size and there's a
wearing down effect that they have on your team. And
I thought that really happened to us tonight. But we
got we got to play with more pace.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
That's what he wants to see more of it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I think we'll see them play with more pace on
Saturday in the home opener against Lafayette. That's Lafayette is
in the Lafayette Leopards from Easton, Pennsylvania, not Lafayette, like
the University of Louisiana lafyt And that is, by the way,
how they pronounce it down in Acadiana down there in
the bio in Louisiana, they like Lafayette, Louisiana lafeut Who

(01:09:22):
the Texas women will play on Monday, by the way,
Louisiana Lafayette. It'll be Lafayette, the Leopards. I think they're
in the is the Northeast Conference. I think they're Patriot
Patriot League.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
There you go. So they're gonna play.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
They'll play Lafayette on Saturday home opener, and you'll hear
it here on thirteen under the Zone. Our pregame coverage
begins at one thirty and the tip off is at
two o'clock on Saturday. And then Monday night at seven
is when the women play, and that will be against
Louisiana Lafayette. That's the seven o'clock And the next Wednesday

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will be the next home game. The men open a
four game home stand and uh second in the home
stand will be next Wednesday night at seven o'clock against
Fairleigh Dickinson University.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
So it will be will be that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
And this was a a basketball team that, like I said,
they were in some trouble down nine in the first half.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
You said, Dave O'Brien said they were being run off
the floor, and.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Yeah, he kept reminding us Texas was out of this game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah, not exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Even in the second half we were down eleven, they
cut it to three, So I wouldn't exactly say they
were out of the game until the late run there.
So so somebody is that. I think probably didn't hear
my update on this, and in talking about the Rouse situation,

(01:10:54):
said rowse is in the five hole plays Glenn the
seven seats to know move really work up, would work.
Only had to head that could help is against Eastview.
H they're already lost to like Belton yep, so no
pat to the playoffs, regardless of the other outcomes this week.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Let me just pull that back up, make sure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Maybe I just my eyes weren't working properly when I
was looking at it earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Here.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Meanwhile, we're working diligently on the twenty five six A
tiebreakers and oh jargon, you have to you have some
you have some update on that, we have some new information.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Let's let's hear what do you what do you What
do you have that's interesting on.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
The It's a lot to sort through. This might be
the longest text I've ever received. Actually, Okay, McNeil's not
in the playoffs yet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Yeah, that's I thought they weren't quite in yet, although
I know a lot of folks thought that they had
clinched the spot.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
But they haven't quite clenched in. So where does it
go from there?

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
So if huddle vander Grift and Vista Ridge win. This week,
Huddo and Vandage Riff tie for the district title. They're
bouth seven to one. Yeah, Hutto's the top D one seed,
Vandergriff the top D two seed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
Round Rock, McNeil and Vista Ridge are tied for third
place with five and three records, so they're placed in
a mini district. Point differential among their games are calculated
with a maximum margin of thirteen points. So is it
positive points only? No, it is not positive points.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Ah Okay, then there's your rub.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
So in that scenario, then Round Rock and Vista Ridge
go through Round Rock plus twelve, Vista Ridge minus two,
McNeil minus ten.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Because it's plus minus, it's not positive. See that double
digit loss from McNeil to Round Rocket're thirty one to seventeen.
That's the one that gets in the way. Because Vista's
losses are by narrow margins. You think about they've got
three losses by.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
A grant.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Well, the one the Vandergriff was a fourteen point loss,
I guess it was. But the one or ten loss,
but the ones the ones that matter. The one the
Huddle is by a point and the one to McNeil
is by three, and they have a one point win
of a round Rock. So what is what is their

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their overall plus minus right now for Vista.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Ridge minus two?

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
See because of that, because they have a one point
win and a three point loss makes them a minus
two and round Rock would be what plus twelve? Yeah,
they're in good shake because of the fourteen point win.
And then McNeil is there, like we said, because of
that that really hurt them. No where they're a minus
what McNeil is minus ten, yeah, because of the three

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point win.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
And they get diged for thirteen of the fourteen and
they're lost to Round Rock which was thirty one to seventeen.

Speaker 6 (01:13:50):
Yeap.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
So there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
So all right now back to by the way, the
texter who had asked the question, and I wanted to,
you know, I wanted to make sure that I that
I read it right. The texter says, H only when
they could help us, say that could help us Eastview,
but they're up by two wins. No they are not.
They're only up by one win. Eastview is four and

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two in the district, Rals is three and three in
the I'm looking at the district standings right now, Georgetown
is six and oh, Cedar Park is five and one,
Eastview is four and two, Ralse and Lake beltn are
three and three. So that's why Rals is not eliminated yet.
They have to they've got to have help. Obviously, they've
got to beat Glenn and they need East Few to

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lose to Leander. It would it would be that that
type of situation and then uh and Lake Belton, by
the way, figures to probably beat Colleen Chaparral that would
get them the fourth or you would uh theoretically have
a three way tie at four and three in the district.
They'd have to get into those tie breaks as well.
So we'll see about all that, but just just wanted

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to make sure you're clear on that. Eastview is four
and two in the district and their losses are to
Georgetown and Rowse and Cedar Park has one loss that
was to Eastview, and Georgetown hasn't lost to anybody in
the district. And Rouse has three district losses including the
Lake Belton in the district opener and Lake Belton has

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three district losses.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
So it's not done yet, not quite done yet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
That's what the cool thing is about the final Thursday
night and Friday night of the regular season. As I
used to term it as unwrapping the playoff package, because
then you get a chance to see who gets in,
who gets who does not. We know, you know who
the ones are and in most cases the two seeds.
We know Georgetown will be in the playoffs, we know
Cedar Park will be in the playoffs. Who will be

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the one seed? They'll decide that on Friday night. They're
at Burkeleback, so they'll decide that Eastview can handle its
business and make sure they locked down a playoff spot
where they win at Bible over Leanne. And not only that,
if they win and Cedar Park looses to Georgetown, the
East Few would be the two seed. So that's why

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that's still in play, just as it's still in play
for Ralphs and Lake Belton as well. All Right, hope
that clares fives that. Coming up next, we're gonna hear
talk of the NFL variety. We'll hear from the Cowboys
head coach Brian Schottenheimer when we continue here on sports
Radio AM thirteen under the zone of the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
I wonder how I would do on a Craig Way quiz. Yes,
yacht rock, No, yacht rock. I don't think it's score. Okay, listen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
All most I'm not gonna say everyone. The vast majority
of seventies and eighties rock and roll and pop music
bands and vocalist or bands and artists, the vast majority
have at least one tune that can drop into the
yacht rock category. And this would be one there. I mean,

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you know, this isn't you know, this isn't night fever,
this isn't staying Alive from Beg's It's Fanny. So it
drops into that, into that yacht rock round.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Well, when we had Andrew Ali Gretta, the voice of
the Commodore is on, he blew my mind. He said
John Mayer's latest album, that's that's kind of a yacht
rock album. And I went home and thought, oh my gosh,
it kind of is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's wrinkles in it all. The
poster example of it is Steely Dan. It just is
no matter what Donald Fagan may f bomb you and
tell you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
And I love Steely Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I saw him in Vegas and the Residency, and I
saw him when they were here with the Eagles, last
loved Steely Dan music.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
But you would not. You would be less than truthful
if you didn't say the album Asia is largely a
byproduct of the times and would comfortably fit into the
yacht rock genre. One of the times have I heard
Deacon Blues.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
On, you know, when I've been out of town on
the yacht rock station or a channel or something on
satellite radio and heard Deacon Blues or Asia or Black Cow.
I'm leaving out a couple other ones. Anyway, there's you
can just you can hear it. You can hear the
influence of the time. I'm not saying they were necessarily influenced.

(01:18:21):
Their musical styles helped influence yacht rock. That's my point
on that. So it's there.

Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Update on the text line from the text was asking
me about Lake Belton and Rouse and all that said.
Thanks for the high school playoff explanation. As my fifth
grade teacher, mister McClure would say, clear as mud.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Could not agree more with mister McClure.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
It's right, yeah, And you think that's muddy, look at
twenty five six A. That's a mess and a half.
But it's been like that with those schools in that
it's pretty safe to say, you know, they had Snapshot
Day last week and they had.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Most of those schools, the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Round Rock and Leander schools I think will be linked
together in the next three alignment that comes out February second.
I think most will be there, but not all of
those schools may be in there. Don't know if Houdo
for sure would be in there. Mainer's going to drop
to five A, yep, And there's a chance there's a chance.
I'm not starting any rumors or anything like that. I'm

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just talking about how the numbers that get turned in,
and it doesn't necessarily ensure right now because the UIL
is not released what the cut line is between five
A and six A.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
They've not done that yet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
But there's a pretty good chance Vandergriff could go to
five a chance of it, could see Rouse go to
six A. Could Glenn's been on the rise? All the
growth in the Leander id is pushing north. I lived
in Cedar Park for twenty four years and I saw
how that thing went out first east and west to

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the east where this to Ridge, then into the west
Vandergriff beyond the boundaries of Cedar Park which kind of
got landlocked, and then North it all pushed with Ralphs
and then Glenn and so that's it, and that's where it's.
Whereas Leander and Cedar Park and Vista Ridge have been
largely kind of within their attendant zones and have it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Grown by much.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I mean, Vista Ridge is a small six as it
has been a small six A for a while and
it will probably continue to be a small six A.
But the other ones, it's it's a much more fluid situation.
So we'll see come February on that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
All right, let's hear from the Cowboys head coach Brian
shot Ember the two big trades they made involving draft picks,
the one with the Denver Broncos to get linebacker Logan
Wilson and the one with the New York Jets to
get Quinn.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Williams Cincy for Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
I don't know why I said, Denver Orange b teams. Yeah, yeah,
there you go, Cincinnati. So anyway, his thoughts on those
deals with Quinn Williams from the Jets, Logan Wilson coming
from the Bengals.

Speaker 9 (01:21:06):
Yeah, it's exciting, just you know, kudos to you know,
Jerry and Steven will and you know, I think you
know being aggressive and but smart because you know a
couple of the moves we made. You're getting guys not
just for uh this year, but beyond, which I think
is great. And they gets you excited as a coach.
And uh, I think, uh, it's two terrific players but

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also terrific young men.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
And I've talked to Logan.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
I still need to reach out to Quinnon, but excited
to see both those guys here and get him a
welcome to the family.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Here's an obvious question, what does Quinn Williams bring defensively
to Dallas.

Speaker 9 (01:21:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know we've played him a couple
of times, just played him a couple of weeks ago.
He's just a difference maker, you know, ability to affect
the interior part of the pocket from a pass rush standpoint.
I think twelve sacks a couple of years ago under
the tutelage. I'm not saying it was a white cotton
that did it, because Quentin did it. But uh, you
know around adub and very disruptive. I mean for us,

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you know, there's certain calls you make, you know, you're
aware when he's in the game because he's just so disruptive.
So we had a learning calls when he was out
of the game. We had to set protections based on him.
And you know, you guys, you guys see it. You
see the talent. But I liked I love the play
style too, just the way the guy plays, the way
the guy runs to the football, and then from what
I've heard from Adub just the type of young man

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he is, I think he'll fit in great in this
locker room and very exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Okay, So here's one of those questions, as I like
to say, it's one of those when did you stop
beating your wife questions? You know, one of those leading questions,
and you knew the media would ask this this kind
of question. Do these additions to the team to shore
up those areas speak to mis evaluations what you already
had at those positions? Other words, did you have to

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make these deals because you guys were wrong and how
you evaluated what you already had there?

Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
No, I don't think so. I think it's just that
we're always always looking. We're competing every day to build
the best roster that we can and you know, create competition,
and you know, I think it's a there's different reasons
you make these moves, and certainly we need to play
better you know, on defense, on offense.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Uh, and so we're trying to do that. Okay. Next,
this speaks to a theme that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Recurs pretty regularly, and it's the window of having a
Dak Prescott playing at the top of his game. So
how much urgency is there to win in this window
given the way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
That Dak Prescott has been quarterbacking.

Speaker 9 (01:23:43):
Yeah, I think you know, there's this urgency all the
way around. I mean, we you know, we want to win.
We want to build a world championship team. Where we
sit right now, we're we're nowhere close to being where
we want to be. But again, like I said, we've
got time this week to you know, reassess some things.
And that's our job as coaches is to clean some
things up and tighten some things up and to get

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ready for the last eight games.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
But you know, again, Dak's a great player.

Speaker 9 (01:24:07):
You know, I don't know how much longer Dak wants
to play into his forties. I mean, most of these
guys are playing in their forties now, So the urgency
is here. Because you know, we're here to win and
compete to win.

Speaker 6 (01:24:18):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Next, he was asked about and this is something else
that it's been asked a lot, and it's about Matt
Eberflush's scheme and how apparently the guys just haven't consistently
adapted to it, adjusted to it, adopted it, bought.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Into it, whatever you want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
So the question was, does the defense need to pick
up this scheme a little more rapidly or does he
need to find players who fit it better.

Speaker 9 (01:24:47):
Yeah, I think it's it's us, you know, trying to
find those answers side. I mean, you know, it's like
the five down stuff. I mean there's nothing, you know,
there's no genius find playing five down when you've got
talented defensive linemen andre singles and stuff like that. And
I think it's a little bit of both, quite honestly.
I think it's you know, him making sure that we're
challenging the opponent who we're playing, and I think that's

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part of it. I think it's, you know, there's things
that we need to do, from tightening up our coverage,
our eyes, things like that. But it's a little bit
of both, you know, And again, that's why this week
is so important for us. I keep referencing it, but
this week is very important for us as a staff
because there's a lot of questions that we have to answer,
and uh, there'll be a lot of you know, deep dives.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Into every phase.

Speaker 9 (01:25:33):
First, second down, third down, short yardage, goal line, red zone,
two minutes, four minute.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Backed up.

Speaker 9 (01:25:38):
You know, those are all areas that we have to
look into and say, Okay, what does the scheme look like,
does it fit us right? What areas are we not
executing well at? What areas are are we executing well at?
And then we'll make some decisions based on that shoddy
wraps on the table the way Sark does it. There's
press conference when you're making that point.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
Yeah, And I wanted to share this with you because shot,
he was talking about third down defense. I was listening
to the broadcast from Brad Sham during the loss of
the Cardinals, and I never laughed out loud at a
radio call more than when the Cowboys gave up nineteen
yards on second and eighteen and I gotta have the
stop situation late and Babel Offenberg goes well, at least

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they can't happen on third down.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Now, yeah, yeah, there you go. Those guys are a
lot of fun to listen to. And then, you know,
it was interesting listening to Schottenheimer just then talk about
what they've got to figure out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
How important a week this is. This isn't open eight.
It's a bye week. But bye weeks in the NFL
are different than bye weeks in college football. College football.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
The guys who work in the day for Texas, you know,
they don't have a game this week, but they're working.
They had a heavy duty load in practice today, they'll
have another one tomorrow. They shifted it all by one
day because of the open date. They treated Monday like
a Sunday, Tuesday like a Monday. So it's conditioning homework,
cerebral type days. Normally Sunday and Monday, well they did

(01:27:07):
that with Monday and Tuesday. Today and tomorrow are what
normally Tuesday and Wednesday are the heavy heavy load in
days where you load in on those practices and then
they'll do a little bit less on Friday and then
there'd be released for the weekend. That's not how it
works in the NFL. Because of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Open date is open date the coaching staff will not

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see the players until next Monday. They're out the whole week,
they have their treatment, came in on Monday or yesterday
after the Monday night game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
So whatever install, whatever adjustments that Schotteneimer was just talking
about all that, Yeah, they don't get to practice any
of that until next Monday when the Cowboys come in.
That's because the collective bargaining agreement. And I heard Brad
and Babe talking about that same thing you mentioned when
I was driving home after the women's game, about Hey,
as much work as these guys need, they won't be

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in the building, They will not be at the Star
in Frisco to do that kind of work until next Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Wow, very very tough timing for the bye in that
sense from from Dallas. And you know, Jerry Jones was
asked a lot about that, with some soundbites you heard
yesterday yesterday talking about timing of trades because of the
team's record and now all of a sudden, you have
to beat the Raiders after the bye. You just have
to so that that Bye Weeke install is going to
be big.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
And then finally he was asked about Logan Wilson coming
over in Cincinnati. And again this is one of those
reporter writer type questions, said, Hey, you know, Logan was
bingched in Cincinnati. What did you guys see on his
tape that made you want to bring him in?

Speaker 9 (01:28:41):
I watched some film on him, Like I said, the
number one thing that jumps out, And again, you know,
things happened for different reasons. I know they drafted some
some linebackers, you know, I know. And but again I
think when you watch the film of Logan, you talk
about a guy's had four I think one hundred plus
tackle seasons, and we played them a couple of years ago.
And what jumped off the film was the athleticism one,

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the ability to dissect things.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
He's excellent in.

Speaker 9 (01:29:05):
Coverage, you know, from both his zone and man. But
what I saw that really jumped off the film was
how quick he was to dissect what was getting ready
to happen. And then he shows up fast.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
At the ball. Yeah. Okay, well there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
All right, there's some stuff from Brian schot Hummer up next,
so comments from Vick Schaeffer, Texas women's head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
When we continue on thirteen under the.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Zone, if you want to use.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
You gotta use me. I'm gone all right, true conventions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
First time I've ever heard this song. This is a
Jake Carbin submission on a Yacht Rock Wednesday. But I
hear your vibe. You can almost kind of hear the
vibe the backbeat of Africa from Toto in this song.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Really So this is John Mayer.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
John Mayer came out four years ago. The album is
called sob Rock and for the tour John totally let
his hair down and embraced the eighties vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Okay, and the name of this cut.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
Last Trade Home Okay, first track on the album.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Would you say that some comments were about it?

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
I didn't realize John Mayer blessed the rains down in Africa. Producer.
How much Eighties do you want in this song? John
John Mayer?

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Yes, So there you go on a yacht Rock Wednesday
here on thirteen hundred design all right, Big Shaffer will
tell you he was a product of the eighties, even
though the seventies as well, but the eighties when he
got in the coach. He's in his forty first year
as a in the coaching realm, so it goes back
to the mid eighties. There but coming off the win

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on Monday Night in the season opener over Incarnate Word
one twenty three to fifty one, and now getting ready
for a Richmond team of vastly improved Richmond team, a
team they had some struggles with in the state of
Virginia last year when they played him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Shaeffer with his opening thoughts.

Speaker 10 (01:31:00):
It's really early for us to be playing somebody in
the top twenty five, and to be playing somebody like
a Richmond who plays way different.

Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
And a lot of people can can very talented, well coached.

Speaker 10 (01:31:17):
Big kids are really agile and athletic and stretch in
and shoot it from range, and guards are outstanding. Dougan
is a monster, and so we're we're gonna have to
play really well. I think, uh, Monday was a good
start for us. Uh probably shared the ball better than

(01:31:40):
than and I can remember, really didn't have any dead
ends offensively. I thought we made a lot of really
good reads, extra passes, things like that that maybe in
years past we've we've really maybe struggled with a little bit,
and uh, you know, so.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
I'm certainly encouraged by that.

Speaker 10 (01:32:04):
And we had yesterday off, so we'll have two good
days of prep and got to get ready to play
on Friday night against you know, a top twenty five
teen that, by the way, just won by a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
As well.

Speaker 10 (01:32:20):
So excited to see my team today, as every day
it seems like we'll be down two or three players.

Speaker 6 (01:32:29):
How long.

Speaker 10 (01:32:29):
I have no idea. So Danny's on, don't he mask me?
But it is what it is. It's is today's world,
today's deal. So we'll practice with whoever we got.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
He was on, and he asked later he did.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
He asked about the injury update later.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Yeah, Dan, Danny is known for being able to do
that for women's basketball, just like annmar Richardson is just
rock steady. Only ask him for that injury update. On football, well,
Vick was asked what does he drill early in the season,
both in preseason camp and then even early days of

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the regular season that helps his team get better as
the season progresses.

Speaker 10 (01:33:14):
Yeah, you know, no, I've always thought what we did
on the track in August in September is what allowed
us to be so tough in March and April. And unfortunately,
because of the calendar and where we start playing now,

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my track workouts were cut short because we started practice
way earlier than I ever have, and so I've always
believed those six weeks on the track and in the
indoor practice facility at six am on Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays,
we're always.

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
That's where we developed some tough us.

Speaker 10 (01:34:01):
You can condition at one o'clock in the afternoon in
the gym when it's seventy and sunny inside or outside,
it doesn't matter, but to do it the way we've
always done it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
To get up.

Speaker 10 (01:34:15):
Everybody got the same pair of shorts, same t shirts,
same socks, same workout shoes.

Speaker 6 (01:34:22):
You know, being ready to go at six am.

Speaker 10 (01:34:25):
It's always to me, that's always been about toughness and discipline,
you know, being able to get up, eat something before
you come out here and get your conditioning workout in.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
If you don't, it's going to be really hard and
really challenging.

Speaker 10 (01:34:40):
So you know, we just didn't have that this year,
which is concerning to me because I've never never had
such a short period of time.

Speaker 6 (01:34:52):
But we'll see how it all works out.

Speaker 10 (01:34:55):
I know our kids are working really hard right now
and you know, continue to we continue to build toughness
in our practices now because we have competitive practices our
practices are very competitive.

Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
We have competitive drills.

Speaker 10 (01:35:12):
We practice you know, every day with competition in mind,
being the best we can be in whatever drill it is.
And then our men's practice team is really good, so
hopefully we'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Next, he was asked about that he was able to
go deep into his bench. Obviously, when you you know,
win by seventy two points, you can do that in
the opener, so you got a lot of bench time
from his reserves, And he was asked about the contributors,
what they did in that UIW game and what the
roles might be going forward.

Speaker 10 (01:35:46):
Well, I thought, you know, Taya came off the bench
and played really well the other night, and certainly Berry
Preston was really good.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
And so whether we're.

Speaker 10 (01:35:57):
Starting you know, Justice or Taya the four and bringing
Aliyah and and Bree off, or if we start the
foreguard lineup and bring Justice and Taya off with Kyla,
I thought our depth was really good the other night.
Those eight were very very solid when they came into
the game. And uh, and so you know, that's that's always.

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We had six people in double figures. And when I'm
not talking about ten points, I'm talking about sixteen or more.
So that's that's that's an awfully good sign. You know,
Jordan going nine for fourteen on the other wing really
takes a load off book. And you know Rory took

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three shots, which they you know, that's great. She had
five assists only one turnover ran her team. I mean,
I thought she was really good the other night. So
uh again, you know, we we've got to keep working
on a little bit. Taya and Justice have got to
really come on while we have Ashton out and got

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to get got to get those two playing at a
real high level so we don't really drop off no
matter which one on the floor. Tya really plays her
motor runs, y'all. She's got that motor that I like,
and uh, she really plays, you know, at a high
level from a motor perspective, and just getting Justice to

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understand she's got so much more in a tank and
we desperately need her to to bring that every day.
The consistency piece for her, I think is you know,
and it's not uncommon for a sophomore, especially one coming
off with significant injury a year ago, you know, and
so just getting her to understand, man, there's more in

(01:37:48):
the tank. There's there's a different level of intensity that
we believe you have, and when you can bring that, man,
it makes a difference for us. We desperately need that
from her. So yeah, I thought Brail was really good.
The other night, Kyla came off and did basically the
same thing. They were both seven for seven. I think

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we could have gone to them a lot more if
we wanted to. But I think the thing about the
other night is I didn't think we took any bad shots.

Speaker 6 (01:38:18):
Like we're really patient.

Speaker 10 (01:38:19):
We got deep in the shot clock sometimes, but we
still ended up with our shot, and that's what we've
been trying to preach a little bit in practice every day.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
All Right, There it is long Warne's head coach, Vick Schaeffer.
We'll hear some more from Vic tomorrow as we draw
closer to this matchup with Texas and Richmond on Friday
Nighting movie. All right, we'll be back to wrap up
today's edition of the program on thirteen Under the Zone