Texas Media Availability Day, Greg Tepper, Maui Invitational

Craig Way talks Texas Media Availability Day, interviews with Greg Tepper about the upcoming season, and talks the Maui Invitational. It's all here on The Craig Way Show!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
GISA, Texas legend, a Hall of Fame broadcaster, the voice
of the Texas Longhorns, and your host of the Craigway Show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Here he is now Craigway.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
We're good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the program here on
Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone. My name is
Craig Way. Glad to have you with us along Cyber
with you each and every weekday afternoon from two pm
to five pm Monday through Friday. And like I said,
you know, Tuesday is a bit of a grind, but
we try to make it a little bit easier for you,
and especially now being on the threshold of football season.

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We are, after all, just thirty two days away from
kickoff for the University of Texas Pro football training camps
are already well underway. We've heard from Cowboy players and
coaches over the past a few days and so looking
around at other teams in the National Football League, and
we'll have some more of that today.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
But today is a good day to zero.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
In on the collegiate game, in the high school game.
Toward that end, today was a media availability opportunity for
those of us in that business to venture over to
the UT campus because there were interviews kind of media
availability press conference type style set up with a long

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orange defensive coordinator peak with Kowski, followed by their special
teams coordinator and tight ends coach Jeff Banks, then by
the assistant associate head coach and co offensive coordinator, the
offensive line coach Kyle Flood. All right, so those guys
were all there and we have audio that will bring

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to you with regard to that. And then they made
all of their other position coaches available for the general
media breakout opportunities and we were we were able to
dive into some of that as well, and so we'll
bring some of that to you because in the significance

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of that is football practice begins tomorrow for Texas. But
the guys are reporting and they get going tomorrow. And
as you know, Steve Sarkisian will be the first to
tell you when asked, uh, you know, does he model

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any of his coaching style or techniques or day to
day operation from Pete Carroll who was one of his
earlier coaching mentors at USC and also Nick Saban who
was his last head coaching boss before he took the

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job at the University of Texas. And sark will be
the first to tell you that he drew things from both,
maybe some more vibrant personality things from Carol and a
lot of intensity and organizational structure of things from Nick Saban,

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all of which is true. There's some real life examples
of that for me personally, because, for example, I record
the pregame interview with Sark before each and every Texas
game two hours prior to kick off, which is a

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little bit rare because a lot of coaches prefer to
do that pregame interview earlier in the week Wednesday or Thursday.
And that was the case that we did with Macron,
and did it with Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. They
liked doing it recording our pregame interview, like say, after

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we got done with the Weekly Coaches Show, with the
understanding that if something drastic happened, then an injury that
was going to change the the you know what the
theme of the pregame interview might be, then we would
find time in order to make it work. Sark, on
the other hand, was like, Hey, it'll be fresher, I'll

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feel more dialed into it if we could do it
a couple hours prior to kickoff. I said, that's absolutely
perfect for me. I'm great with that. Well, Sart got
that from Nick Saban. Believe it or not. Saban would
do his pregame interview on the field with you know,
for many years Eli Gold, It was a longtime voice
with the Crimson Tide. In these past a few years,

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Chris Stewart, who is the play by play voice for
Alabama football and Coach Saban would do that pregame interview
on the field two hours prior to kiking call, and
Sark liked the thought of that, and so that's how
we've gone about it, and it's been really good.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So like two hours before the.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Kickoff of the Red River rivalry UH, sar can I'll
be down on the field of the Cotton Bowl and
and record the pregame interview, and same thing before the
Georgia game at home, and then the UH even before
the Big Twelve Championship game, and then and then also

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the UH the SEC Championship game, the Peach Bowl, the
Cotton Bowl, all of those games wins losses during the
regular season whenever we would record those interviews on the
field two hours prior to kick Well, that's something he
picked up from Coach Saban. There was another thing he
picked up from Coach Saban, and that was the.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Guy who.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
The guy who would be the spokesman for the program
and should be the spokesman for the program, is the
head football coach. Toward that end, during the course of
the regular season, and really and truly even once practice started,
the only coach who would be doing any interviews, any

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press availabilities, any of that kind of stuff. The only
coach who would be doing those kinds of things once
the season prep got going in underway would be Sark himself.
That's how coach Saban was and Sark adopted that from that. So,
but what they do accommodate the University of Texas, and

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what Sark accommodates is one preseason media press conference with
his coordinators and then media availabilities for his.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Other position coaches so.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
We could all get to know them a little bit
and get their loss of ease and things like that.
So we visit with them before the season begins. Then,
as you know, when you get to a bowl game,
one of the requirements of the college football playoff and
the bowl games is that you do make your coordinators

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available and like, for example, for the Peach Bowl, there'd
be a press conference with with Kyle Flood and several
offensive players last year, so quin Ewers would be in there,
you know, Trey Wisner, several other players, Jake Majors. They'd

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all be up at the dais on the offensive side,
and then from the defensive side, Peak quick Kowski would
be there. And then you'd have Michael Taff and you
would have Anthony Hill, and you would have Jane Barron.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Guys like that.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
That happens like bowl week or college football playoff week,
that sort of thing. But during the core of the preseason,
in the regular season, only Sark is the one commenting
about the players say it all should funnel through him.
And there are several coaches who do that, by the way,
across the country, but Sark is one of those guys,

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along with Nick Saban did it that way for years,
and Sark is certainly one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
So today is a little bit.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Of a you might say a little bit of a
special treat because of the availability of those guys who
are not made available during the course of the season,
but they are available in the preseason before practice begins presentation,

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So toward that end, we're going to hear from some
long worn assistant coaches today. Also coming up in the
three o'clock hour, we'll have our weekly conversation with Greg Tepper,
the managing editor, and I keep saying managing editor. He's
now the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine.
He'd been the managing editor for gosh ten years something

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like that, but with mister Campbell's passing a few years back,
it held that title even after his passing, and what
they did was name him. I think editor emeritus is
the way that it's described going into the season, and Temper,
when he's been on the show with us, explained that

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the reason for the name change is because they said,
you know, there are certain duties that go with being
the editor in chief, so we have to have an
editor in chief. They changed Dave Campbell's title to editor emeritus,
and so the late Dave Campbell, who passed away in
twenty twenty one, he is still listed in the magazine

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as the editor emeritus, but the editor in chief is Temper,
and he joins us each week to talk about before
the season begins some of the things to look for
in college football and in high school football, and then
when we get into the regular season, it's a review

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each week of what's going on on the high school
front and on the collegiate front. He'll join us in
the three o'clock hour. He does it every Tuesday in
the three o'clock hour, so we'll have that.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
We are also in.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
The habit of giving Way a couple of copies of
the brand new magazine. We've been doing this since nineteen
ninety eight, been giving away copies every day for two
or three weeks, and we did some last week, we're
doing some this week, and we'll do some next week.
So we'll give away two copies today and we'll tell
you how you can win those coming up a little

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Speaker 2 (11:39):
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Speaker 3 (11:41):
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And a lot of people knew because a lot of
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sixty was the first year they did it. We'll have

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Speaker 2 (13:37):
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Standard messaging and data rates may apply. All right, coming up,
we'll hear some LONGRN football conversation and we continue on
thirteen under the zone to have you with us on
a Tuesday afternoon. So let's jump right into this and

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bringing you that this is from the day, it's from
just a little while ago. Uh, the media availabilities for
the coordinators. We're going to start off with a peak
quick Kowski the defensive coordinator, and that's how it was
presented chronologically, and we'll let you hear the first half
of that during this hour. We'll get to the next
half of it in the second hour. But here is
log Oorn's defensive coordinator peak Quick Cowski to the media

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of the day, thinking.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
The next steps for him that you wanted to take.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yeah, just really it's the details of playing the position.
Just be more consistent. We know he's a playmaker. He's
got great ability and skill. It's just attention to the details,
being more physical when when we need him to be
more physical and just continue to grow and develop, take

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advantage of the ability he has p K.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
So much was made up the communication the secondary entering
last year and how they improved without the natural communications
got A and mccopan, because those guys relationship, right, how
do you recreate that this year?

Speaker 7 (15:26):
What they said?

Speaker 5 (15:27):
The guys said her practice and just practice and from
coach a Kina, coach Orfe and all of us, you know,
emphasizing that and practice and you know they know the
importance of it. They saw the results of it. They've
been doing a good job with it so far, and

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just keep keep practicing it. And the more we communicate,
the more trusts we have, the more confidence guys have,
and the faster we play, and the obviously the better
we play PK.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
The rotation at the corner and safety expanding because you've
got more guys who are comfortable with the defense.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
How do you see that in those two positions.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
At the end of the day, we're gonna we're gonna
put the best four best five guys out there, and
what that looks like we'll find out here as we
get through camp. But we've got a lot of guys
that have the ability to and it's gonna come down to,
you know, how they perform, how they practice, their understanding

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of the defense, how they communicate.

Speaker 9 (16:37):
All that is factored in.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
But we we definitely have we feel good about the
guys we have back there.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
We've got good depth. What that.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Looks like is who's out there, who's at what position.
We've got some good flexibility with the you know, with
the safeties and the stars and.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
How we're gonna figure out all that out.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
But that's what that's the beauty of competition and and
and fall camp practicing and and those guys showing what
they can do.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
But you you've got you've got a lot of success
with the interior of that defensive line over the past
couple of years.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
You've got a lot of new guys so that you
guys brought in so I don't have to put on
patch and but what have you seen from.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Some of those transfers, the buying, the want to, tension
of the detail, doing all the little things right that
has nothing to do with football, they're all they're all
been really good, had a really good offseason, good summer. Yeah,
we've got some we've got some talent guys, uh, and

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we got good depth there. I think we got really
good depth there, better than last year. We'll see, you know,
how we how we perform and how productive we are.

Speaker 9 (17:56):
But we really like what we got.

Speaker 11 (18:00):
And what's kind of prompted the move to trade the
words the downside, it's.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
A combination of trying to get him on the field.
Let's back up, it's more about, you know, at the
next level, right, he's he's that that inside backer pass
rusher type of a player, and so we know he
can play off the edge, right, and so we needed

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more depth, right And it's from a team span, but
we needed we needed another guy as inside backer for
his growth. It's going to be really good for him
to be able to to play inside backer and get
the eye control of the keys and reads down.

Speaker 9 (18:48):
For his you know, potential future.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
But it's it's really the bottom line is you know,
that's the one, that's the one air on the defense
were you know, we feel good about our depth, but
you know, in this get in the game of football,
injuries happened and it could get real thin.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
Real fast if guys get hurt.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
And so it's a combination of those two things, you know,
his his personal growth and then helping the team.

Speaker 12 (19:17):
Because I assist some of those of the lineman, interior visibility.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Individual who stood out, like you know, alex Is is
as a as a red shirt excuse me, as a
true freshman.

Speaker 9 (19:33):
His growth has been good.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
He's still got he still got stuff to do and
get better at, but.

Speaker 9 (19:37):
His growth.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Has been good. You know, cold Brevard is a big dude.
It's hard to move got you know, the two who
got we've got Watson and Maraud and Levon, they we
have seeing them, you know, they they got here after

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after spring ball.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
Who am I missing there?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (20:05):
Hero, Hero has been awesome. Here has been really good.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
And then so between the transfers and you know, alex
we feel good about those guys.

Speaker 9 (20:19):
It's hard to it's.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Hard to say who's who's going to be the starters.
We really don't know, you know, it's gonna come down
to you know, how they performed in camp and they're
all gonna play. I think they've all got the they
want to and they're conscientious about the the things that

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are important.

Speaker 13 (20:41):
Right.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
They play with good effort and they and they care.
So we'll we'll see as as as we as we work.

Speaker 10 (20:50):
Through this August defensive end position Kirk and it's.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Uh yeah, so we got we got Burke, we got
a bunch of guys that can play that. Burke's coming back,
Colton's back, Zena had a really awesome spring. Awesome, he's
gonna play, He's gonna he's gonna be a guy. And
then Justice Terry's out there also, So we got we
got a lot of We got really good depth.

Speaker 9 (21:20):
At the edge position, especially the jack.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Well lessons to Jael take away on defense, on how
to how he played jacketship football, over and.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Expand to a playoff.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Take it one day at a time. Every week is
a new week. Whether we win or lose, you're back
to work. It's the it's you know, when we lost it,
it's stung, but it was all about getting back to
what do we gotta correct, what we got to fix,
How do we get better and and after we won
it was the same thing. So it's just staying consistent

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with our with our our daily process of prepared, earn
and getting better.

Speaker 14 (22:03):
Going back to the linebacker room, a lot of versatility
there and so I'm interested to know how much that
effect your creativity when it comes to place packages and
which is also how the fun is it to have
these different chest pieces?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah, I mean it makes it, It makes it fun.

Speaker 9 (22:17):
It makes it.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Difficult because you're trying to you got all these guys
that you're trying to get put in position to to
to make plays. And but it's a it's a good
problem to have obviously. So yeah, a lot of that
is factored in you know matchups. Uh, different different ways

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we can attack, whether it's players or from a from
you know schematic using them as decoys two to open
it up something else on on the opposite side of.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Them are familiar your defense and the gents that you have.

Speaker 13 (23:01):
How difference the preparation, but we want as opposed to previously,
not different, it's the same.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
You know, we go into camp and you're you're installing.
This is the fourth time we've installed this year, so
you know, for the most part, they know the defense.
That's it's always coming back to the details of playing
the techniques based off the of what that defense is asked.

Speaker 9 (23:27):
Him to do.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
But as we get deeper into camp, you know, we
start we start zeroing in on on Ohio State and
but it's always every every year it's this, it's the
same same processuse how.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
I was how was how was Jonah's transition from baseball
to football to seven.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
It was it was good.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, he's smart, obviously, very very athletic and talented, but
he's his mental acuity was really good.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
He picks it up. Yeah, can be happier with him,
Coach Stern.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
So there's the first part of Peak quick Kowski. In Peak,
it was interesting you're hearing the question about and I
think it was a friend Almaua Richardson, who posed a
question about Joan Williams, who we just got through watching
play his freshman baseball season and his progress. Remember he
was a five star football recruit, so his progress in

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the early days of that. We'll hear more from Pete
quick Kowski coming up in the next hour of the program,
and coming up at the four o'clock hour, we'll hear
from Kyle Flood, the Longhorns co offensive cordninator, the offensive
line coach. We'll hear from him coming up in the
four o'clock hour for a Tuesday afternoon when we continue.

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I'm thirteen under the Zone, second hour of the program
here on Sports Radio A in thirteen hundred this so
I'm glad to have you with us. Craig Wait today
being produced by RONALDS. Junior. Glad to have you with us,
and we're with you up till five o'clock. Coming up
in a few minutes, we'll visit with Greg Tepperm, the
editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine, talking

(25:11):
about the new issue and in addition to talking about
the new issue of the magazine, some of the preview
we previewed six A football last week. We'll jump to
five A this week, but we'll also talk some palle football.
We had a question on the text line, and I
want to make sure that I make it clear about

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the rules of the contest. Somebody said, I have a
quick question. It is a long time listener from the
DFW Metroplex.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Glad to have you.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I've Enjeorgia, Dave Campbell, Texas Football magazine giveaways, and one
several times last year I was lucky enough to win
a gimbo was informed they would not send the magazine.
I'd have to pick it up at the station. Is
that the same this year. Doesn't seem to make much
sense to those of us long distance listeners. But if
that is the rule, then it would that you should.

(26:01):
I guess you should make that announcement when you run
the contest. Okay, making the announcement. Now, we made the
announcement on that two years ago when I first came
back over here, and that was how they wanted to
handle it over here.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
The reason was twofold one.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Because of the staff being smaller, not being able to
put all that stuff together for mail outs. But the
other reason is they wanted to and they were very
adamant about this. They wanted this to be either kind
of a bonus, either for the local fans listening or
for those who are dedicated enough to drive in for it.

(26:39):
So yes, you do have to drive or come to
the station to pick up your copy of the magazine.
So I made that announcement a couple of years ago.
I guess it should it should have made it last year.
Should make it this year. You do need to come
to the station to pick up for those of you
who win a copy of the magazine, So I hope
that clears that up for you there, all right. I

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referred to an article, and I don't know if you've
seen him lately, but he was at Yankee Stadium on
Monday night. And I'm not talking about a baseball player.
I'm talking about Luka Doncic, that's right, the Dallas maverick.
And if you were to look at the photo of

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him on Men's Health magazine, especially if you were looking
as I've first pulled up the photo from like the
neck down, I would never have guessed that it's Luca.
I know he'd been the you know a lot of
jokes and people referred him as lumpy Luca and all
this kind of stuff and being overweight. He ain't that anymore. Apparently,

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what he's been doing, according to Dan Walk's article in
The Athletic, is for sixteen hours a day, for six
days of the week, he does not eat. He saves
all of his meals for one eight hour window, and

(28:11):
he put the basketball away and turned himself over to
his training team, got to work on strength and conditioning.
He was intentional with the meals that he consumed and
is moving on the court in the weight room what
he took according to the article, and it says, and
here in the final week of July, the initial result
results are visible in an incredibly public way.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Dancic wants the punchline of fat jokes.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
The guy who cracked beers and broke opponents ankles, the
guy who Dallas publicly bet against and privately disparaged, is
on the cover Immense Health magazine. The lines separating the
muscles on his tanned arms are sharp, The cushion around
his bearded jawline has evaporated. His hysique has been completely

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redone thanks in no small part the work of Ase
Machik and Javia borero Brio, who are they described as
the drivers of his physical wellness team.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
They said it was.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
According to some around Luca was to have a bigger,
better plan for his pro career. And the way that
what Chick wrote it was he said everyone else was
clearly a response to the humiliation and pain caused by
the Dallas Maverick's decision to cast him away from the
city where he planned on spending the entirety of his career.

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So anyway, it goes on and on, and he goes
out to meet Aaron Judge for the first time. So
they give him a Yankee jersey with a seventy seven
with Doncic complete with the accents on it. On the jerseys. Well,
it's pretty interesting read there about Luca. How Luca has

(29:59):
read that kated himself and the people won't be able,
at least not right now anyway to you know, hammer
on him with fat jokes, because he ain't fat anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
He's pretty chiseled when you look at him now.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So and what will be interesting to see for him
is how it translates to success on the basketball court.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
You know what matters on the basketball court.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
How does it How does it affect in a good
way or maybe even in a negative way, his actual play,
his shot, his defense, certainly his offense. But he's definitely
trimmed down and toned up and it's a lot different
looking Luka Doncic than you might otherwise imagine. Okay, before

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we get to the break, I do want to give
away the copies of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. And yes,
as I'm mentioned a few moments ago in response to
the text, you do have to pick up your copy
at the station.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
We've already had people winning copies.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Of the magazine who have come by to get it,
so that's a good thing. And I said that today
I would come with a Texas log Worn question.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I kind of alternated it between.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Texas questions and questions about other other folks as well,
you know, other teams, and about the magazine as well.
So today is going to be a question about the
log Worns themselves, and the the log Worns were last

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year ranked twenty ninth in the FBS in points per
game scored, so they were ranked twenty nine in points
per game score is actually down two point eight points
from twenty twenty three when they were fifteenth. But my
question is, and it's going to be the first two

(32:12):
answers who are closest to the number, how many points
per game did the long Warn football team average last
year per game? And the two answers, the first two
answers that are closest to it, The two closest answers
are the ones that are going to win a copy
of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. How many points per
game did the Long Warin football team average weekly in

(32:36):
twenty twenty four? All right, up next, we'll visit with
Greg Chepper, the editor in chief of Dave Campbells Texas
Football Magazine when we continue on thirteen under the Zone.
I didn't want to leave out the particulars on the
instructions about how you can win that copy of Dave
Campbell's Texas Football Magazine I just mentioned. I mentioned the question,
and the question is quite simple, really, it was like,

(32:57):
how many points per game did the Texas Long Run
football team average per game last year? And so it
will be the two answers, because we're giving away two
copies that are closest to the number, and if we
have several that hit the number on the head, it'd
be the two that got in first. And how you
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Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's kind of in the shape of a triangle or
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a copy of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Speaking of which, it's time.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
For a weekly visit with the editor in chief of
Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Greg Temper joins us.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Now, you mentioned we're still trying to get used to
that a little bit, and I figured the best way
to do this is to just keep saying it over
and over.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Editor in Chief, Editor in Chief, Editor in Chief.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
It sounds like something maybe that your sons could enlist
in as well. Maybe Hank could just come up and
just say it to you all day long, editor in chief,
editor in chief, you think that might work?

Speaker 15 (35:58):
I don't think so, because I don't think my kids
know what I do. I'll just be honest like like
they they have. I think they have no idea that
we do like a show like on on Texas Football
dot Com.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
They certainly don't know that I do a podcast.

Speaker 15 (36:12):
I think they know that like Dad goes to work
and like he hangs out with Ashley Pickle and then like.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
There's some football things involved.

Speaker 15 (36:21):
Every once in a while he shows up on TV
and Mom makes us watch like five minutes of it.
But other than that, I think they're just like, like
they know that my that.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
The president of our company has a putting green in.

Speaker 15 (36:34):
His office, and so he thinks that that's he thinks
that's that That's basically what I do.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
I come up here and I just like knock him
in from about twelve feet out old eggs.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
And he probably thinks that's pretty cool. That's life as
it should be. A gun in your office.

Speaker 15 (36:48):
Let me tell you, he thinks that is about as
good as it gets around here.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
He's he's been in my office.

Speaker 15 (36:53):
He's seen all the collections for you know, in nineteen
sixty edition to Dave Campbell's Texas Football, the Dave Campbell's
Texas Football Board game, like all of these cool things
that we like to show up when people show up.
And then he's like, yeah, but what about the putting
thing that seemed like it'll be much more up my alley.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I'm glad you brought up the nineteen sixty edition and
here's why yesterday, and of course we're giving away copies
of your outstanding publication on the air every day. Today's
question was, and we will wait and reveal the winners later,
how many points per game did the Texas log Worns
average in twenty twenty four. It comes right out of

(37:30):
the magazine. It's right there. If anybody's reading the profile
on the log warns that'll see that. But long worn fans,
a lot of long worn fans would know that anyway.
But it got me to thinking, because yesterday's question was
what year did the magazine first publish? And sure enough
we had, you know, just a boatload of people just

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automatically knew that it was nineteen sixty.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
And that was that.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
And I pointed out that that inaugural issue in nineteen
sixty was ninety six pages, which you so ironically and
poignantly pointed out matched the age of mister Campbell himself,
who passed away at the age of ninety six. Here's
my question to you, ninety six pages out of that,
and I've only just kind of seen the magazine very brief.
I've never I've never gone all the way through it.

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So out of the ninety six pages, what is the
most striking characteristic of that first edition back in nineteen
sixty that has probably stood the test of time and
is still a staple or something close to it, a
staple of what the magazine is. And it's four hundred

(38:37):
page incarnation here in twenty twenty five. Yeah, everything's just
a little bit like tighter. Basically, you know, mister Campbell
could hit a word count and we can't, and that's
kind of whatever foreigner pages.

Speaker 7 (38:50):
But the biggest thing is that like you can see the.

Speaker 15 (38:52):
Bones of everything and just how everything's expanded, for example,
the one thing that you go in there and I
love reading. And basically the first thirty twenty five thirty editions,
the main event of the magazine used to be what
would be called like the Southwest Conference form chart, which
was basically it's the closest thing. I don't think Dave

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liked the work prediction because I think that that gave
him kind of an idea of like what like, oh,
I know what I'm talking about more than anybody, and
he was above all things humbled, and so he put
out the form chart and it was essentially his predictions.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
But you go through and.

Speaker 15 (39:27):
You'd be able to read the like the his thoughts
on all every team in the Southwest Conference and in
every team, which is essentially like what the magazine in
its infancy was about. It was about how these teams
in the Southwest Conference are going to stack up, and
it's specifically where his Baylor Bears were going to stack
up against the mighty Texas Longhorns and the mighty Arkansas.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Razorbacks and then those those things.

Speaker 15 (39:50):
That's the thing that I drived there the most, because that,
to me is where you get the most personality from Dave.

Speaker 7 (39:55):
And get that, then you go back to the high
school section.

Speaker 15 (39:58):
You know, back in the high school section, we do
have five hundred and seventy four school boy teams in
the first one. Now we're over fifteen hundred, but it's
very it's very bare bones. But it was very clear
that he thought it was very important we mentioned all
these teams. So we get them in and they get
a little bit of spotlight and stuff, and yes, they
get to be in the same magazine.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
As the Texas A and M Maggie.

Speaker 15 (40:20):
And so what I think is so fun about those
magazines is that you can flip through and see like
the baseline of it, and we've just kind of gone
and expanded more and more on top of that and
secing up with it. The other thing that's funny is
the ads, because I'll tell you get in there and
those early ones, Dave, God bless him, he was taking
anybody who'll give him money, and so there would be

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you got cigarette ads, You've got alcohol ads, like you know,
there's a there's a Canadian whiskey in there.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
For a couple of years, it was the early going.
Dave was scrapping.

Speaker 15 (40:54):
David was trying to put together anything you could. So
those ads are a bit of a trip as well.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
And he still ended up losing what five thousand dollars
the first year.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Yeah, he lost five thousand dollars the first year.

Speaker 15 (41:06):
Uh and and but then I think the next year
that I think they only lost one thousand dollars and
then and then suddenly things kind of turned around after
a couple of years. But yeah, it's it's it's the
blast from the past. But I think what's so interesting
is the more you look at it, the more you
can just see the bones of what would it it
would become now, and and and how how if you
look at it a certain way, you can see how

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little has actually changed as opposed how much has changed.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Well toward that end, Like I said, I only saw
a little bit of it. Did they kind of do
a prediction on the high school districts? Kind of like
what you guys do? Is it anything like that? Or
did they just go alphabetical? How did they How did
they treat that district by district?

Speaker 16 (41:44):
You know what, I.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Need to go back and look.

Speaker 15 (41:46):
I've I've flipped through them for you. By the way,
you can go to Texas Football dot com slash archive
and flip through it yourself. Oh cool, we have those
subscribers can go. We have the whole magazine digitize. You know,
I know that we I know that he did a
like essentially like a call like an all state team.
He did that, but there it was a lot more
feature based. If you go back there, you know the

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the it starts. It's really only about the final. They
did do a super team, which is something we still do,
the best team the best players in each team. But
a lot of it was was a lot of it
was I believe he went alphabetical by district and so
like if you really he'll have like a poor Arthur
Jefferson as a number one team in class four A.

Speaker 7 (42:26):
Right, but then you get the District.

Speaker 15 (42:28):
Four four A to the four four A rather four
four I should say, and it'll go in order of finish,
so saying, okay, well it was a lot very interesting.

Speaker 7 (42:36):
Each team didn't get their own blurb like individual blurboo.

Speaker 15 (42:39):
You see, it's basically like a paragraph written about each
district and it will go in order of the team
and mention it and say, hey, by the way, you
know Grand Prairie and Arlington are the teams that can
challenge Wich Tall Falls and District four or And yes,
Grand Prairie and Arlington were in the same district as which.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Falls back in the day visiting with Greg Taper, editor
in Chieva Dave Campell's Texas Football Bags, you mentioned the
form chart he had for Southwest Conference. In what way,
if any, did it resemble your Texas have bs power
pole where you have the thirteen teams ranked from the
one you think is going to be the best of
the thirteam, which happens to be Texas, all the way

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down to thirteen where you have Sam Houston. Was there
was there any kind of resemblance to that?

Speaker 15 (43:21):
Yeah, I think that that this is about as close
as we can get spiritually to what he's doing. It's
what he was doing simply because that is more about
how much the game has changed than how we've changed,
you know, because because if you go through it, I
mean back then you followed the Southwest Conference, you're essentially

(43:41):
following all the major football teams of Texas. And yeah,
look though the Lone Star Conference have still cooking, and
there was you know what would be now called non
FBS teams that were playing that you could pay attention to,
but in the end, you can just play atenent in
the Southwest conferences.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Real simple.

Speaker 15 (43:56):
Well, now we got to pay attention to Clemson because
they are conference mats with a team in Texas. And
we've got to pay attention, you know, to to to Stanford,
and we've got to pay attention starting next year to
Wyoming because they're going to be in a conference with
the team employse State is going to be a conference
team with with you know, and and then you add in,
you know, Washington State, you know that they're joining with

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the Texas State joined the PAC twelve. And that's one
of the challenges that we really face, especially because with
the Southwest Conference, is pretty easy to stack them up
because in the end, it's going to be able to
to they're all playing the same league and you're gonna
be able to see where these teams.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
End up at the end of the year.

Speaker 15 (44:34):
Now, there is a certain level of like pound for
pound you have to go through. It's like, for example,
if Rice were to go nine and three this year,
that would be absolutely sensational. There's a couple of games,
for example, one of them against the Texas Longhorns.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
That they probably should win.

Speaker 15 (44:51):
But if they were to go out there and show
well in that, then they should they should rise up.
And there's an argument to be made that like a
ten and two Rice team with a loss to Texas
should be above let's just say like a seven, like
an eight and four Texas team, or not a seven
and five Texas team.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
That's the that's the mat that we.

Speaker 15 (45:12):
Have to get it is this pound for pound stuff,
because you want to treat these teams equally, even though
the field is tilted in a certain way, and so yeah,
we got Sam Houston last, But at the same time,
you know that was a team that was a ten
win team a year ago, and it's hard to balance
those while also being intellectually honest that like, yes, if
you put Texas and Rice on the same field, I

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have a pretty good.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Feeling of what's going to happen.

Speaker 15 (45:35):
However, you want to make sure you're giving them their
due and measuring them against their peers. We run that
same thing with the high school ranks. Like I always
think about pound for pound. We actually we did our
one A and two a preview on Matt Stepanic's podcast yesterday.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I was talking about Gordon.

Speaker 15 (45:50):
Gordon has an argument that last year they were pound
for pal the best team in Texas high school football. Now, look,
if you were to put Gordon out there against any
six A team, I know what's going to happen. If
very confident as good as Gordon is, I know what's
going to happen.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
However, viewing it in those.

Speaker 15 (46:07):
Terms gives you a way of making sure that you're
paying the due respect to those programs at least punching
in their weight class.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
So to speak.

Speaker 15 (46:15):
And so that's one of the challenges that we face
with just these these college football programs scattering to the
four wins, is that we don't have those head to
head clear delineation of what these teams are and what
these teams aren't.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, it's like a golf handicapping system if you did
it that way. And by the way, a really presient
example of what you're talking about would be Sam Houston
State in Texas, since Texas does play Sam this year.
They don't play Rights, but they do play Sam. So
you get the number one team in your power pole
and the number thirteen team in the power pole. But

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like you say, you look and now that you're into
profiling Sam Houston on a regular basis, they get their
requisite number of pages as a Division one FPS program
that they get their due and that and that's something
that you urge your writers who are doing these profiles
on this to make sure that they do.

Speaker 15 (47:10):
Yeah, we have to make sure that we're you know,
these five pages that matters. Not That to me is
the way that we can pay the most respect to
these programs. And if you are an FBS team, whether
you're the UTEP miners or you are the Texas Longhorns,
you're getting five pages.

Speaker 7 (47:23):
Same thing with us.

Speaker 15 (47:24):
If you're an FCS team, whether you are a team
that hasn't won a game in five years or you
are the reigning FCS national champions, you're getting a page
in the magazine, and we're going to make sure we
do that.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
And so that's kind of the thing.

Speaker 15 (47:36):
And the same thing goes by the way, when you
get to the high school ranks of like, yeah, because
there are fewer players and because we've got to cram
these teams in when you get.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
To four A, we'll go with two districts on each page.

Speaker 15 (47:47):
But like, if you are the number one, if you
have the best, if you're eleven six or twenty three six,
as you've got all these teams that talk in the
state rankings, you're prospect loaded. We're going to make sure
that you get one page. And if you are a
a team in the Rio Grand Valley or you're a
team from a far flowing area and you have no
prospects in the entire district and you and your district

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champion is going to be first round cannon funded for
some O team, guess what, you still getting one page
We're still going to make sure that we give you
that because that kind of equal treatment, I think is
kind of those are again the bones that we've been
building on for sixty five years.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
All Right, we continue our high school previews. Last week
we talked six A, so let's move into five A.
And you know, when I look at at your state
rankings there, I get a real sense of the more
things change, the more they remain the same. Even though
Smithson Valley is a defending state champion, you have Alito
number one. But in Division one, Alito at number one

(48:41):
is a pretty safe place to start at, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (48:45):
Yeah To me, this is a case of don't overthink it.

Speaker 15 (48:49):
You know, when you take a look at it at
our rankings, we have Alito there at the number one
spot because while Alito is the most decorated program in
Texas high school football history, they have got thirteen starters
coming back. They were on the precipice of make it
to another state championship last year before they got upset
by Dent Ryan in the regional semi or in the
regional final.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
I just don't want to overthink it. And they're gonna
be really good.

Speaker 15 (49:12):
But the one thing I will say about this is
that I think that five day Division One in a
lot of ways has an opportunity to really steal the
show this year as far as most entertaining classification to watch.
The reason is, I don't think like Alito is there

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in many respects because of because of course they are right,
they're there because of their history and their tradition. They've
got some real questions coming into this year. You know,
first of all, like do they believe like they just
got beat by Dent and Ryan the team that who's
who's the team number they had all year long? But
they got to find a quarterback and they're gonna have

(49:53):
some real questions. You have a reigning state champion in
Smithson Valley at number two, who we really really love
their defense, to replace nine starters on offense, including folk
hero Cage Spradley, who was one of the most electrifying
players in the state championships last year. Then you have
Dent Ryan at number three Highland Park who lost the
state championship last year. They bring back only one starter

(50:14):
on defense, but importantly they do bring back what appears
to be the coin of the realm in this classification,
which is a quarterback. They bring back Buck Randall in
the quarterback spot. It was just a sophomore last year.
And then you and then you get into what I
think is the real interesting part of the rank because
you got those top four leadis Smith and Valley Dent
and Ryan filand Park Yeah, Frisco lone Star who is
really fascinating, Davian Gross kind of leading the way. You

(50:37):
got to me your first real party crasher at number
six in a Laporte. I love this Laporte team. I
think they've got an opportunity to really really make some noise.
They were attent, they got really hot really late last
year and ran into the regional final before coming up
just short to the team right behind them in Angleton,
who is also going to be that dist eleven to
five A Division one is going to be a lot

(50:59):
of fun, polish station appling. And I'm tell that. All
I'm saying is that, like you're right, Alito is the
safe choice. But if they slip, then it becomes like
wide open and you could have a real opportunity for
a party crasher, which could make this a really really
fun chase for Arlington, because I think that the five
A Division one is deep, and it is really fascinating

(51:24):
to see which of these teams are going to end
up playing to their paper rising to the top if
Alito were to stumble, which I don't think they're a
sure thing. I think that they are worthy of being
number one, but far from far from a locked and
loaded choice.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Best five A D one team from the area. Wis
maybe with Georgetown's just off the pace.

Speaker 15 (51:47):
Yeah, this Wi's team, you know, obviously going through a
coaching change I think is gonna make things really interesting
for how they handle it. But you got Jackson shadd
at the quarterback spot, who was just simptational last year.
I love what he brings to the tape. You know
last year he was he was cool, calm and collected.
And they got Trey More on the outside. They're gonna
put up points. My questions for Weis are going to

(52:08):
be how they handle a coaching change as well as
what do you do as far as defense is concerned.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
That those are the real questions. And then you mentioned Georgetown.

Speaker 15 (52:15):
I mean, I don't know what it is about that
part of the world and offense in five A. But
like jet Walker, if you haven't seen jet Walker, if
they're running back special special, special player and the guy
ran for almost twenty five hundred yards last year.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
A menace back there.

Speaker 15 (52:30):
But again, the question I think for both those teams,
for both Wise and for Georgetown, is going to be
on the defensive side and can they make stops. Those
are the teams that that certainly in that part of
the world, I would say are are are.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
On my mind.

Speaker 15 (52:42):
Cedar Park is interesting too, fifteen starters back from last
year's team, you know, but being in Region two is
tough for them. Like I just think being in Region
two doesn't necessarily do them any favors. They're going to
have good experience overall, but I would like to see,
especially all offensively, can they kind of get that thing
in gear? You know of traditional power there in Cedar Park,

(53:05):
but I want to see there can can they kind
of get back over that hump, especially in new surroundings
are in Region two?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
And finally, is it too simplistic to say, Okay, Division two,
it's Richmond Randall, a defending state champ over South oak Cliffe,
the team they beat last year, and there's some other teams.

Speaker 15 (53:24):
Maybe maybe Okay, so maybe Richmond Randall the defending state champs.
They bring back landa Williams callis their spectacular running back.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
South Hope Cliff.

Speaker 15 (53:33):
A team that absolutely can make a fifth straight state championship.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
They're going to be in that mix.

Speaker 15 (53:38):
But there are three teams that I think are real, live, certified,
bonafide party crashers here. One of them is Brenham in
region of the number three team, Kobe Dixon. Their running
back is fantastic, Chris Gidry, I think is your star
wide receiver. They are loaded there in Brenham, and I
think they've got an opportunity to kind of return to form.

(53:59):
Argyle is another team. I really like, Maguire Gasperson. Their
quarterback is spectacular. They are going to be in that mix.
And the thing I always like about Argyle is you
know how well the coach they're going to be, and
you know how good they're going to be upfront.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
That's the thing that I always appreciate.

Speaker 15 (54:13):
They even set your watch to it with Todd Rodgers
that that's gonna be really good. The other one that
I've got my eye on in a big way is Huntsville.

Speaker 7 (54:21):
I am very very high on what Huntsville.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Has coming here.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
Now.

Speaker 15 (54:25):
I got a new system offensively, but they are inheriting
a senior class that I think is going to be
ready for their close up. This is a Huntsville team
that I think they've been waiting for this particular class
to be seniors, and the time is now. Treyshawn Brown
the running back, They've got sophomore quarterback in Zaria and
Adolphe they feel really really good about. They're going to
be great upfront. Todd Navis takes over this program. We

(54:47):
know he knows how to win at the highest levels.
So you're right, like Randall and South Oakcliffe right now,
you're making me make a pick. I'd say that that
we're heading for a state championship rematch. However, I think
that there are a lot of other really intriguing.

Speaker 7 (54:59):
Teams out there.

Speaker 15 (55:00):
Texas High is de Tradarian Ball back for a senior year,
poor As Groves Lurks as well. This is a really
really dangerous five A Division two that again, if either
of those teams were to slip or show some weakness,
there's plenty of teams that can take advantage of it.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
And hey, Ziandre Williams is back for his eleventh year
at Anna right.

Speaker 15 (55:16):
Man Man I'm telling you that that district, by the way,
District four to five A Division two. I mean you
have got number ten, Anna, You've got number eleven, love Joy,
You've got number sixteen. Prosper Walnut Grove, You've got number nineteen, Melissa.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
You have got a ton of really good teams in
that district.

Speaker 15 (55:34):
That it's gonna be a battle week in and week
out with some of the most electrifying playmakers in five
AB two.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
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Speaker 3 (55:42):
He's the editor and chip chief of Dave Campbe's Texas
Football Magazine. Somebody on the text line said, hey, any
update on those perspective Texas football T shirts.

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Speaker 15 (55:52):
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Speaker 7 (55:56):
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Speaker 2 (55:57):
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Speaker 15 (55:58):
I am on your side. I'm on the side of
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We're trying to hold this back.

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Speaker 3 (56:12):
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We'll do it again next Tuesday. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
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Speaker 3 (56:19):
That is Greg Tepper Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Up next,
We're gonna hear the rest of that media day conversation
there with the Long Orren's defensive coordinator Peak quick Kowski
here on thirteen Under the Zone. Our thanks Scanning, Greg Tapper,
editor and chet Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Let's come
back to the University of Texas conversation more from Long
Orange defensive coordinator Peak quick Kowski.

Speaker 9 (56:40):
Can can be happier with him?

Speaker 17 (56:41):
Coach during the SEC media days John mccatt. Then, now
some little changes the game and what impact they have.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
There's just one specific on what impact will the new
rule of abrupt movement on defense?

Speaker 5 (56:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think it's gonna
it's gonna come down to how they that individual official
that we use it, because it's it is very just
you know, one official might look at it and say, Okay,
that's legal, and next week that the next official might say, no,
that's not.

Speaker 9 (57:17):
And I just the one.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
The one thing we know is you cannot be moving
forward when you when you move, but when you're moving sideways,
some guy might think it's too abrupt, and some guy
might think it's okay.

Speaker 9 (57:31):
And so I don't I don't know. It's gonna be uh,
it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Obviously, y'all were one of the best teams in the
country ever taken the ball in the last year with
the roster turnover, the tel has had what has to
go right for that to be the case again, this
is yeah.

Speaker 9 (57:48):
I think.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Historically when you have a young team, you don't get
as many turnovers because guys are more worried about what
they're supposed to do. And so the more experienced you have,
you are now they're more comfortable, they're they're faster processing
what they're their alignment, what they're supposed to do, and
so now they they're just more aware. And I think

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we got we're at a place now where we practice
it all the time where I mean it's emphasized daily
stripping the ball, cat tips and overthrows all all that.
But I think it's a combination of the experience that
you have on the team and then they just come

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and buy just their feed off of it. I think
that the as corny as it is that that turnover
sword we've got, they get fired up about, you know,
going over there and slamming the ball on top of that,
but it's infectious.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Speaking of the experience there.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
That's how important is that you can talk about thrown
over something and the experience.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Have a guy like Tath the communicator.

Speaker 9 (58:58):
Yeah, he's awesome.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
Yeah, he can every every call is not the perfect call,
and so he's one of those guys that can fix
calls right. And then he he just has a really
good understanding of the defense, understanding of offensive football, and
so his communication back there.

Speaker 9 (59:23):
Fixes a lot of a lot of issues that show
up throughout a game. So, I mean it's awesome that
he's back.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Corner office opposite on. So that because you talk about
the competition that corner to play opposite of.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Yeah, it's, uh, we got you got Manny, you got
Jalen Gilbo, You've got Kobe Black, and then Warren Robinson
has had a really good spring and so those four guys.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
Are all all competing.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
And then Kate Phillips, the true freshman, had good spring,
and I'd like to see how how he progresses.

Speaker 9 (01:00:03):
But it's you know, it's it's those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
And again we'll we'll we'll see after we get through camp.

Speaker 12 (01:00:10):
What other freshman have opened your eyes? The conditioning of
spring growth.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Yeah, yeah, we talked about Jonah Cade. You know, Justice
is a physical plat. He plays with good effort. Let
me think, Uh, those are the guys that stand out
to me right now.

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
Other than taff Who are your local leaders?

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Which we got a lot you know, Jelani's gotten a
lot better, Gilbot Is is good.

Speaker 9 (01:00:48):
You know, Backer, you you got you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
All, Tray's that's a big improvement for Trey from last year.
Ty Anthony does a great job at it. Uh, yeah,
we got we got a lot of guys that I
mean they bought into the importance of it and and
how that settles everybody down. And yeah, it helps how

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they how they how they perform and play.

Speaker 18 (01:01:14):
What is having Anthony Hill helped you do?

Speaker 17 (01:01:17):
Fantasy experience and talent player?

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
And what's the next step for him?

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
The next step for him is is really just keep
growing and improving in his in his past coverage, whether
it's man coverage or zone coverage, he has a nose
for the ball. He you know, he plays it, plays
his tail off and and has a knack for big plays.

(01:01:42):
And it's just the consistency in his in his past
coverage is is the next step and he's he's doing
a good job of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
That what is Dwayne Dwayne Kna brought here and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Step Yeah, Dwayne is fiery, he's I guess he's mellowed
out and in his days according to him, but yeah,
he's he's he brings a really good energy.

Speaker 9 (01:02:06):
A wealth and knowledge.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
There's a bunch of different ways to play defense, right,
and he's done it all and so with and and
he's and he's he's pliable, right, He's not set in
one way, and so we have a lot of different answers.
We have good, good discussions back and forth and and.

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
He's just a really good person and awesome coach.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
We talked about the player for what do you want,
what's the next step for you? What do you want
to take with the defense?

Speaker 13 (01:02:38):
To what your challenge to yourself to tell these guys
kind of take the next step.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
I mean, I'm pretty macro thinking on that. And it's
just we just got to continue to get better. The
guys that that are maybe the medias think they've arrived.
They just got to keep getting better. And obviously the
young guys they got to grow. And as a as
a unit, you know, we our ability to lift one

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another up. And you know, adversity's gonna hit. We don't
never know when and how we respond to it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:14):
It's all the same every year. It's the same stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
And so.

Speaker 9 (01:03:20):
Not resting on our laurels and continuing to.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Grow and get better and having that mindset day in
and day.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
Out, is is what we need to do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
How are you guys challenging a guy like March?

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
You know, we're probably just doing what we're supposed to
do based off of what the call is.

Speaker 19 (01:03:39):
And and and you know we we we do enough
defensively that you know, poses him problems as far as
disguise and and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Not not tipping our hands. So it's a good back
and forth. And the one thing about Arch is U
T awesome, awesome teammate, awesome, awesome, awesome kid, and he's
he's e easy to like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
So we're gonna talk to Kyle, We're gonna talk to
Jack today.

Speaker 14 (01:04:12):
I'm just curious to know how much of the timely
what do you with the coordinators do you feel like
has led.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
To the success of this program?

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
I think, I h that's a that's a big, big reason.
The the k the the kids are just comfortable. They
know the expectations, they know what's what, what to do
how we how we uh operate, And I think it's
uh a big reason.

Speaker 9 (01:04:41):
The guys play.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Like they do. Why do you think dove stay together?

Speaker 9 (01:04:45):
Cause we're all good dudes and we'd get along and
like each other.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
And you know, everybody's got a little bit of a ego,
but everybody keeps.

Speaker 9 (01:04:52):
Him in check. We keep him keep it in check.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
And then the end of the day, it's a it's
about trying to do our best to to win games
and and have fun along the process.

Speaker 12 (01:05:04):
Years ago when you said what pad fresh, Yeah, yeah
for you and yeah, could you'll leave if you seen sacks.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
We'll find out. But yeah, I feel really good about
what we got personnel wise. Uh guys coming off the
edge backers can can rush the password and got good
de tackles that can push the pocket. And so yeah,
come a long way from whatever that was and was there?

Speaker 18 (01:05:32):
What was the process that led to the pelop Gil's
Tampa two dye pack and gus last year?

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
Just you know, we were we were just a way
to change up the look for the offense, get the
corners a break, and we just got we got better
at it as the uh as the season went along
and we were we able to lay the run with

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the lighter boxes and so we just sort of expanded
from there.

Speaker 10 (01:06:05):
Last Wednesday, play on a PK defensive planet optimal level.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
What is that to you?

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Yeah, we we score more points than they do.

Speaker 9 (01:06:19):
At the end of day. It's about that, right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
If we can, if we can holding the less points
and we then uh, then we score.

Speaker 9 (01:06:27):
That means we want.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
But how we tackle, how we create turnovers, and how
hard and physically play we do that we're gonna be
able to hold our head up high and feel good
about ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
That is peak wick Kowski, long Orne defensive coordinator. From
the media availability today, we'll be back here on thirteen
hundred the Zone, third and final hour of the program
here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred. I'm glad to
be with you, Craig Way, alongside the producer Ronald Savage Junior,
here on this Tuesday afternoon. Cam Park will be back
in the seat tomorrow, so that'll be happening.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
And tomorrow on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
The program, we're gonna hear from some more of the
Texas coaching staff. We'll hear from Jeff Banks tomorrow's first
full day when they get into things, we'll hear from
Jeff Banks, the special teams and tight ends coach.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Can hear from Dwayne A.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Kena tomorrow on the program as well. And and we'll
also hear from AJ Milwie, who works with the quarterbacks.
We're gonna hear from those guys tomorrow on the program.
Now coming up here in a few minutes, we'll hear
from Kyle Flood, who is the of course assistant associate

(01:07:45):
head coach and the co offensive coordinator, so we'll hear
from him coming up in just a few moments as well. Also,
and I mentioned that tomorrow we're gonna we'll hear from
AJ Milwie, And he was asked quite a bit today

(01:08:07):
about arch manning, as you might imagine, in fact, every
coach who was asked about his area of concentration, if
you will. For example, Pete quick Kowsk can be heard
from pe K in the two o'clock hour and in

(01:08:28):
the just completed three o'clock hour, And yes, he was
asked about arch manning, even as a defensive cordinat he
was asked from the perspective of how much of a
challenge does your group present for arch? How much of
a challenge does oars present for your group. It's kind
of a going around in the garage. You get to
the barn way of asking somebody about Arch manning. But

(01:08:49):
it did feed into Pete Qwitkowski's unit, his group the
defense and how they prepare for that, and he discussed
it in good detail about the give and take on
both sides, how it was beneficial both sides. You'll hear
similar types of things. What Kyle Flood who handles the
offensive line, and that is predominantly a lot of the

(01:09:12):
questions you're going to hear with regard to the fact
there's only one returning to starter on the offensive line,
But how many of the other guys got.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
In a lot of work and what their.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
You know, what their development has been liked the younger
players that have been coming through as well. But also
asked about Arch and how he relates to the rest
of the offense and how it's been going with that
toward that end. And before we get to the break here,
it's a pretty interesting piece by Daniel O. Yafusi of

(01:09:49):
ESPN dot com and he wrote a piece mainly it
was about the Cleveland Browns, and it was about the
role that the Brown's owner, the co owner Jimmy Haslam
plays in the day to day operations. Now, before you

(01:10:10):
get into thinking that it's along the lines of Jerry
Jones type involvement, it's not like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
But there is involvement.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
There's always involvement from owners of clubs in whatever sport,
pro basketball, think about Mark Cuban and his involvement so
much with the Dallas Mavericks, you know, major League Baseball,
with the involvement of the owners involvement. Of course, the
most celebrated and reviled of all of those was George

(01:10:38):
Steinbrenner and his day to day ownership and management of
the Yankees and the way he did it. But owners,
because they are, after all, the owner the franchise, are
going to be at least on the periphery, if not
more centrally involved. So the title of this article was
Arch Madness Brown's co owner doll Plays Manning draft talk,

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because yes, it's already started, just as the hype has
started as to what kind of season Arch Manning might
have this year for Texas and does it lead to
Heisman Trophy talk and does it lead to, you know,
to him leaving after after one year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
The other day when Sark was on with Colin Cowhert.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Colin asked hibout and he said, gosh, you guys already
have him in the NFL, got him in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
You guys already have him in Cleveland. I'd like to
have him two years.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Well, the guy who's kind of in agreement with him
is the co owner of the Browns. Today, he dismissed
speculation that he's eyeing Arch Manning for the twenty twenty
sixth draft. Haslam, of course, is graduate at Tennessee, has
a strong relationship with the Manning family, including Peyton. The
Browns do have two first round picks in next year's draft,

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and you know, we don't know if Arch is going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
To be in it. He would be eligible as a
red shirt freshman.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
But his quote was, I think if you know the
Manning family, I would bet that, And I don't know
Arch at all. I would bet he's stays in college
two years. So I don't even really think that's worth discussing.
So anyway, there's some stuff on all of that. All right,
we need to bring when we come back. We're gonna
hear from the Longhorns co offensive coordinator, the offensive line

(01:12:22):
coach Kyle Flood. When we continue, I'm thirteen under the zone.
We're happy to have you with us here. Drive careful
here in the afternoon drive portion of the program right
talking Texas Long Horn Football Media Day, availabilities with members
of the coaching staff today with the assistant coaches, and
without further ado, let's hear from the co offensive coordinator,

(01:12:43):
the man who handles that offensive line, Coach Kyle Flood.

Speaker 20 (01:12:47):
Always one of the always one of the best days
of the year for us as coaches. The team comes
back today, and I know the players are here kind
of all year round right now, but this day is
always a special day for us, and we're super excited
to get started. I would open up questions.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
It's your message to your guys when they first arrived,
when they get back in any different.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Issue or being a little bit younger team than than
what you've noticed over your guys.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
The last couple of years.

Speaker 16 (01:13:11):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 20 (01:13:12):
I think what's different is we maybe we've got some
guys with a with a little less history, maybe a
little more to prove on the front end, and I
think that could be a great motivator, you know, for them,
for sure, but the standards we have here as a program,
you know, those don't change you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
To you, Kyle, so much was made up, you know,
the red zone Miss Ohio State House. That's high profile.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
But just overall this season, how'd you feel that you
bess for forms in red zone short hard time?

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Tavis?

Speaker 16 (01:13:34):
Yeah, that bothers us too as coaches.

Speaker 20 (01:13:36):
You know, I think you know, for us obviously, you know,
when we put a game plan together, we want to
want to execute the plays and and score touchdowns in
the red area. And it was you know, if you
go back two years ago, the red area was a
was a field zone where we made improvement.

Speaker 16 (01:13:50):
But we're not up to the standards that we expect
to be up to.

Speaker 20 (01:13:53):
And certainly when it happens in a game like that,
it gets even more notice and you know, unfortunate. But
what I would say to you is, like, the players
we're going to have when we go into game one
this year will be considerably different than the players we
had at the end of last year.

Speaker 16 (01:14:09):
So we've got a new group.

Speaker 20 (01:14:11):
We got to find out what their strengths are as
we go through training camp and ultimately design a game
plan that works for them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Because what what's the state of the both the right
time of spot. Is that gonna get a camp out
or what do you talk about how it is going on.

Speaker 16 (01:14:23):
Definitely going to be a camp out, for sure.

Speaker 20 (01:14:25):
We've got a couple of guys who have been playing
there in the spring and Andre Kojo and Brandon Baker who.

Speaker 16 (01:14:30):
Have done a really nice job, really nice job.

Speaker 20 (01:14:32):
I think both those guys have changed their bodies and
improved their skill sets.

Speaker 16 (01:14:37):
And you know, we'll figure out training camp how.

Speaker 9 (01:14:39):
That all plays out.

Speaker 20 (01:14:40):
But I think one of the advantages we have is
we're going to play against a really talented edge group
in training camp, So I think these guys are going
to get challenged it on a day to day basis,
and you know it's I know it's going to come fast,
but you know, right now we're at the beginning of it.
So you know, both guys are going to go out
and compete and we'll see how it plays out through
training camp.

Speaker 8 (01:14:59):
Has you know for your guys now, the fifth guy
I guess in that twenty twenty two recruiting class to
get a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Chance here to start. What are you seeing from him?
But what stands out about him?

Speaker 9 (01:15:10):
And what do you like most about him.

Speaker 20 (01:15:12):
Yeah, I think Nato had the best spring of his
career for sure, which is what you would hope. It
is what you would expect, And and you're right, like
to speak to what you you kind of said. We're
more fortunate than that we have to replace four starters,
but we also have some guys in the program that
we have been with us for three and four years now,
who've been in our system, who kind of know what
our expectation level, expectations are and they've improved. And again

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I'm excited to see him in training camp. You know,
you go through the spring and then in the summer
we're only allowed to watch so much. So there's a
lot of improvements that are that are important that you
make in the summer, but we don't always get to
see him as coaches. So when we get out there
tomorrow for practice one, we'll have a really good gauge
of kind of how we did this summer.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
For sure, to be the quarterback, I'm front how.

Speaker 16 (01:15:58):
Ready is He's absolutely ready?

Speaker 20 (01:15:59):
You know, we'll again we've got some depth at that
position between Cole and Connor Robertson, both guys who've played
a lot of football here. So I've got a lot
of confidence in both of them, you know, But is
Cole ready to do it? He's absolutely ready to do it.
A really really smart player, been in our system for
four years, has played a lot of center in situations
you guys haven't seen in practice, which similar to Hayte

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and Connor, you know, nobody had really seen him play
in a game until we got to the Clemson game
last year and he did a really nice job for us.
But yeah, I feel like Cole's absolutely ready for that.

Speaker 11 (01:16:30):
Kle, you talked about new guys, you know, referring to
the red zone when you have it back like c
backs from the back to what impact does that have
on play calling in the red zone and really how
much to see hilp tho short yardage situations.

Speaker 20 (01:16:43):
Well, again, we've had a really good back last year
in Trey Wisner, so I would start with that. I
think he's the only returning thousand yard rusher in the SEC. So,
but set is a bigger back for sure. And can
that affect play calling in the red area. I don't
know if necessarily effects play calling in the red area,
but when you have the more talented running backs, you
have for sure as you go through the season. That's

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going to help you keep those guys fresh and and
hopefully help you in all situations.

Speaker 17 (01:17:07):
Coach, you talked last season the season four about Jake
Majors being a football savon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
As he's gone.

Speaker 17 (01:17:13):
Is there anyone who's stepped up, and you often said
he was the voice of you when you weren't there.
Is there somebody that stepped up that you rely on
or that you would call it footballs Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:17:22):
Yeah, he's a cyborg, you know, however you want to
look at.

Speaker 20 (01:17:25):
Jake was a unique guy, and I think a great
example for guys like Cole and Connor and Danny Cruz.
I think he's He's laid a great foundation for us
at Texas at that position, for these guys as they
come into the program to know exactly what we expect.
And now it's up to the players that are still
here to kind of carry that forwards.

Speaker 11 (01:17:43):
Well, outside Ze was a really good scheme for you
guys last year up until it wasn't making the plus
season a few games.

Speaker 16 (01:17:51):
What were some reflections you had on kind kind of
building around that scheme for college football and good team
you know, every year it's an interesting question. So I
do appreciate the question.

Speaker 20 (01:18:01):
Every year that Sar Sark and I have been together,
going back to Alabama, different run schemes have become the
more kind of used scheme a year, the more common
scheme that we've used. It hasn't always been outside zone.
Some years it's been pinpolls, some years it's been gap schemes.
When we first got here, it was inside zone, and

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then last year kind of morphed into outside zone. It
was very productive for us over the course of the season.
I don't know what that's going to look like this
year yet, you know, I think we'll have a much
better vision of that as we go through training camp
and we allow these linemen and tight ends to work together.
You just, guys just spoke to Coach Banks, So you know,
we've got five players in that tight end room that

(01:18:43):
are trying to figure out what their role is. You know,
we've got eight, nine, ten offensive linemen right now that
are competing for jobs, trying to figure out what their
roles are going to be. And ultimately, as coaches, we'll
figure out what schemes are going to allow us to
utilize that personnel in the best way, and it may
be outside zone again, but I don't go into it saying, Okay, hey,
this is what we're gonna be exclusively, or this is

(01:19:04):
what we're gonna do more than anything else. I think
I want to see that in training camp, to really
be sure of what we feel like is the best
thing for this football team, and not just assume because
outside zone might have been best last year, that it's
going to be best again.

Speaker 10 (01:19:17):
Last year you made the decision like Duram practice weeks
to let perce we did first team reps and maybe
good A Banks kind of agrest talk about maybe how
that ended up paid off for you when we need
for is at something else, So you'll.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Probably do again this year.

Speaker 20 (01:19:30):
You got the only The only thing I would say
in kind of a little bit of course correction, is
it was never about like giving somebody rest unless there
was an injury that we were dealing with.

Speaker 16 (01:19:41):
So we do that from time to time.

Speaker 20 (01:19:43):
But I do think as you establish who your third
tackle is going to be, and every year I've worked
with the offensive line, it hasn't always been hey, this
player is going to be the third tackle, this player
is going to be the fourth time. Sometimes it's hey,
this guy is just a little bit better on the right.
This guy's just a little bit better on the left.
And for the season, we're going to go with at
it this way. But when you get to a point
last year where I felt like, Okay, Trevor's our third
tackle and he can play both sides, then I think

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it's my responsibility to make sure he's got enough reps
in practice with the ones so that there can be
some continuity when injuries happened. And you know, we were
fortunate here for a long time that we didn't that
we hadn't had to deal with that, and then.

Speaker 16 (01:20:18):
Last year we did, and Trevor did a great job
stepping forth Toji, can you.

Speaker 18 (01:20:21):
Speak on your freshman class coming in this year? And
then of course, you know, how might did Nick Brooks
fit to the equation of it all? It's important this
year as well.

Speaker 16 (01:20:28):
Yeah, it's kind of two different conversations.

Speaker 20 (01:20:30):
We had two guys who got here in the spring
and Jack Christian and Nick Brooks, and I think both
those guys have progressed really well. They've both really gone
at it from an understanding standpoint in a big way,
and I think for them, training camp now becomes the
real test because they were able to get kind of
the offensive installs in the spring and then go back
through it in the summer for the second time, and

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now they're going to get it for the third time,
and it's for them. It's a real opportunity for them
to show us how far up the depth chart they
can move in training camp. And then the Coleman brothers
got here in the summer, and certainly we do stuff
online with them when they're not here, but but they're
for them, They're still kind of getting caught up a
little bit, you know, so, but I do think watching

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them move around in the summer, I'm really excited about
their futures and we'll figure out ultimately kind of positionally
where they're going to go as we go through training
camp as well.

Speaker 8 (01:21:19):
Kyle, can you talk about who's you know, battling out
to be the third guard in.

Speaker 7 (01:21:24):
In this line and what that looks like.

Speaker 20 (01:21:28):
Yeah, we've got I think a group of guys, you know,
starting with like you know, I see already you've got
DJ and Nato. You've got them as starters already. So
I'll check that with the head coach when we leave here.
But but you know that We've got a guy like
Nay Kevel who's been in our program who's done a
really good job. Uh, you know, get a guy Connor
Strow now has been in our program for a few

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years and had a really good spring. And Jayden Chapman
who gives us a lot of position flexibility and kind
of as we go across.

Speaker 16 (01:21:56):
So I think those guys.

Speaker 20 (01:21:58):
Right now are are going to really compete and now
over the kind of the first two weeks of training
camp is really their opportunity to show us, Hey, I'm
ready to handle this kind of workload when we get
the game week.

Speaker 16 (01:22:09):
Trevor is still a young player.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Where's his biggest room for growth?

Speaker 20 (01:22:12):
Well, I think Trevor has had a really good summer
in building his body. You know, with Trevor was not offensive.
Linemen come to you in all different shapes and forms,
and some guys get here and they are maybe a
little too big and we lean him up a little bit.
Other guys like Trevor will really lean and we've kind
of built him up, and now he's he's really like
as he feels, he's moving as well in his body

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as he's ever moved, you know. So I think that
because I think your strength catches up to you in
terms of your height and your length and your weight,
and I think all that stuff has kind of come
together in a really good way. So I'm excited to
see kind of how he starts his training camp.

Speaker 12 (01:22:47):
The offense different with the harts and forward you offensive
line for it, Does it look like a drafting differently looks?

Speaker 16 (01:22:56):
I don't think it does. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't.

Speaker 20 (01:22:59):
I think there'll be some minor things that we'll do
certainly as we go through training camp and again playing
always playing to the strengths of who the players are,
you know who, from the quarterback to the linement, to
the wide receivers, to the running backs to the tight ends.

Speaker 16 (01:23:10):
You know, what are our strengths this year?

Speaker 14 (01:23:12):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:23:12):
I don't think you can't just assume that we're.

Speaker 20 (01:23:15):
Gonna look the same as last year, because, like I said,
we've got a lot of different faces out there, a
lot of different skill sets out there.

Speaker 16 (01:23:20):
I said, but we'll figure that out.

Speaker 20 (01:23:21):
But systematically, though, we've got a really strong foundation, and
that foundation has been built over time, and I think
the system has proven that, when executed properly, it can
win at a really high level. So I think we've
got a really good foundation here at now. The little
tweaks and the little movements that will happen with the offense,
that'll all happen during training camp.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Because you said this group may have something to prove.

Speaker 20 (01:23:43):
You fal that chip with your shoulder, now, I think
you absolutely do. I think that's every young player. I
don't think that's unique to us. I think anytime you
are getting the opportunity to be a full time starter
for the first time, there should be a little bit
of a chip on your shoulder because there's other guys
behind them that are trying to win those jobs too.
You know, there's there's no like weight your turn process

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in major college football.

Speaker 16 (01:24:05):
That's not how this goes.

Speaker 20 (01:24:06):
My My responsibility to the head coach and the program
is to make sure I put the best five players
out there, and then I got to figure out, okay,
well where do those pieces ultimately fall. You know, I've
had guys who were first round pick tackles at other
places that played guard early in their career because they
were one of the best five and I had to get.

Speaker 16 (01:24:23):
Them on the field.

Speaker 20 (01:24:23):
So I think like for everybody there should be there
should be this feeling of everybody to go out there
and prove that you are absolutely the best option for
us to win a championship with.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
So yeah, looking at tality, a guy like archad.

Speaker 13 (01:24:38):
The experience that you have, how easy does that make
your really step up this offense, especially with some young
guys would chicks.

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
On the shoulder.

Speaker 20 (01:24:45):
Well, I think Arch has been an excellent leader for us.
You know, when you when you transition away from a
guy who played at the level that Quinn did, and
Arch had his opportunities to do it last year. I
think that's helped him. But Arch is a great leader,
so I think that that's where it starts. I think
he's done a really good job of driving the offense
through the summer when us as coaches, we can't necessarily

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do it in a first hand way looking.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
At PK's defense or the eyes or some of the
coaches offense. Why do you think that group has had
so much success create.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Turnovers last time?

Speaker 14 (01:25:17):
Ye?

Speaker 20 (01:25:18):
Well, I think that's an emphasis for them. I think
they've done a great job at it. And I think
he's very multiple in his scheme. So you can't just
prepare for one thing. You have to prepare for a
lot of things when you play against PK's defense. But
I think they've made an emphasis of it, and they've
done a great job in practice of drilling it, and
the players have done a great job of executing it.
I don't think. I don't think it's more complicated than that.

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It's one of those things it's not very complicated, but
never easy to do either. You know, you gotta have
the players. He players got a real.

Speaker 8 (01:25:45):
Buy in Cojo, the guy who's probably most comfortable playing
on both tackles both sides, left and right, Or how
would you say among your tackles who are comfortable playing
both sides?

Speaker 20 (01:25:57):
No, I think in very few instances do not train
them to play on both sides. So you guys saw
that with Trevor last year. Kelvin we never did because
from day one Kelvin had kind of been slotted in
at left tackle, so there was really no reason to
do it. But Cam we had trained on both sides,
and Trevor we trained on both sides, and Brandon Andre
we've trained them both on both sides. Nick Brooks as
a freshman, we're training him on both sides.

Speaker 16 (01:26:19):
So I think you have to do that.

Speaker 20 (01:26:21):
I think it's rare to have a guy that you
don't train, and for them it's great because it just
builds value for them. I remember having Jed Wills, and
Jed was our right tackle and then he gets drafted
and also now he's a left tackle, so you know,
those things can happen.

Speaker 11 (01:26:32):
You think a more healthy running back room could help
the running game.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
Be a little bit more diverse in terms of skiing
gap scheme, inside zone.

Speaker 16 (01:26:41):
I think we're always diverse, you know.

Speaker 20 (01:26:43):
I think even I know we had the question about
being kind of outside zone centric, but we don't ever
go into a game without carrying all of our schemes.
But I don't think you want to do it by
running back, and I think that gets really easy to
defend for the guys on the other sideline. So we
don't look at it like that. Our running backs are
complete players. You know, Trey Wiser can run gaps games
as well as he can run outside zones games, for sure.

Speaker 18 (01:27:06):
Coach, I know we've talked about red zone to Dad
almost but the third quarters through the back end of
last year also not necessarily an area of strength offensive league.
We're all able to pinpoint anything over the offseason as
to why maybe that went that quarter went dry at times.

Speaker 16 (01:27:20):
I don't know that we look at it like that.

Speaker 17 (01:27:23):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:27:24):
Again, like every game kind of takes on its own personality,
and with so many new faces on offense, I think
that I'd be kind of manufacturing and answer for you
if if I said that.

Speaker 16 (01:27:35):
But but certainly we want to execute throughout the game.

Speaker 20 (01:27:38):
You know, It's not, hey, we want to be really
good in the first twenty and then really good in
the last twenty in the middle of the game.

Speaker 16 (01:27:43):
You know, we don't look at it like that for sure,
Thanks for DJ Kify.

Speaker 20 (01:27:47):
We want to play at a really high level with
really great consistency. You know, I don't think that's again
not unique to DJ. You know, we want that for
all of our players, especially the lineman. But I think
consistency of play for all these guys up front is
going to be a critical factor in determining ultimately who
gets the playing time, because like as an offensive lineman,

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it the game is really fast, you know, I think
like the closer you are to the ball, the heart
of that position is for a player, a young player
to play. So obviously quarterback has the closest to the ball,
he's got it in his hands. It's hard for a
young quarterback to play just it just is. But offensive lineman,
you know, that ball get snapped and within a second
you're probably going to be right or wrong, you know.

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So the consistency of play is really what allows you
to operate on offense, you know, from an offensive line perspective.
So for DJ and all those guys again, as we
go through this early part of training kit, that's the
most important thing I'm looking for. He's super talented, he's
super powerful, he can run, and he does some things
from an offensive line perspective that very few guys can

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do in terms of moving people off the ball.

Speaker 7 (01:28:50):
We know about d Moore and Ryan Wingo, but who
else is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
You didn't want me to finish that? Oh sorry, I'm
glad somebody else caught that there, you know.

Speaker 20 (01:29:00):
So again for DJ, you know, and all our all
our all our offensive linemen, you know, I love the upside, right,
I love the upside of all these guys. But really
what determines your your ability to play early and how
much you play in a game is how consistently can
you perform.

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
Now you're at the receiver position, we know about Demo
and Wingo, but who els you know, are you excited about?

Speaker 20 (01:29:25):
And it certainly even though we really haven't seen him,
you know, like for we' see him on the film obviously,
so we're excited about him.

Speaker 16 (01:29:31):
But guys in our program, I think the two guys
they jump out right away.

Speaker 20 (01:29:34):
Like Parker Livingston had a great spring and he's just
a guy like he just does things right all the time.
And I think he's going to earn himself a role
on this offense for sure. And and then Ryan Nibblett.
You know, Ryan Nibblet's got a tremendous skill set and
he's really a selfless player that's played out over the
first couple of years, a great teammate.

Speaker 16 (01:29:53):
And I'm really excited about Ryan as well.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
Have you seen trigger rounds game?

Speaker 20 (01:29:58):
Well, you know, from high school, he really wasn't a
full time running back. He was kind of more like
a slot receiver type guy. So he's embraced the position,
you know, which again is not always easy for young
players to do. But again, another really selfless guy who
kind of made his reputation early on on special teams.

Speaker 16 (01:30:12):
But he is really like he has gone all in
on being a great running back.

Speaker 20 (01:30:18):
And but I will tell you, like, I think his
most important role for us is in the leadership part
because he is a tremendous leader. And you know, we've
had guys here in the past, you know, a guy
like Roshawn Johnson who was kind of the heartbeat of
the offense, and Trey is one of those guys now
that has kind of moved into that ross him and
Demo kind of move into that role of being kind

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of the heartbeat of what we are on offense.

Speaker 14 (01:30:42):
Yeah, it's another season where we're talking to you, Jack
k how much of the continuity of these coordinators player
factor in these programs and stuff.

Speaker 20 (01:30:51):
I think it helps, you know, it's certainly I think
the players enjoy it, but I think it's probably as
important on a position as it is on kind of
an overview level for these linemen because listen, I'm sure
there's a lot of really good offensive line coaches out there,
but everybody does it a little bit differently. And to

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have the continuity in that room year after year now
going into year five, I think has been really valuable
for these players, especially the ones who've been here for three.

Speaker 16 (01:31:20):
And four years.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
I'm sorry, why do you think you'll stuck together?

Speaker 20 (01:31:25):
I can only speak for myself, like I think when
so Sark and I now have been together nine years
and longer than a lot of marriages, I hope not
offending anybody in this in this space right here, So
I'm not trying. My wife and I were married twenty
five years this summer. So I'm doing all right. I'm
hanging out tight. But but I do think when that

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might be my wife right now, But I but I
do think this.

Speaker 16 (01:31:50):
I think that.

Speaker 20 (01:31:54):
To be with somebody for nine years, it's it's so
you guys understand, like it's a lot more than just
the football. It really there's there's a personal connection that
we have outside of football that creates a great atmosphere
for me to be able to come here to work
every day, and certainly from a from a football standpoint,
you know, I know what to expect every day. I
know what I need to do to support him as

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the head coach. I know what I need to do
to make sure we get the offense ready to be
the best offense we can be. But nine years, it's
it's more than that. It's it's much more of a
personal connection.

Speaker 13 (01:32:25):
With my position group or specific players, how they finish
your approach this season it's supposed to previous years. We
gotta get ready to throw a hots.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
Take every nationally.

Speaker 16 (01:32:34):
I don't think it's any different again, like we we can't.

Speaker 20 (01:32:37):
We've got to go into training camp and we've got
to focus on being the best version of us every day,
and if we do that, then we'll have a chance
to perform really well. You know, we take that trip
to Columbus in week one, I said, but the focus
has got to be on us, right, So on us
as an offense, on us as a position group, and
then ultimately each player has to focus on themselves and

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how can they improve as we go through training camp.

Speaker 12 (01:33:02):
You've been around a quarterback more comfortable than ars just
Tin only two starts in college.

Speaker 16 (01:33:07):
Describe what you mean by comfort? Don't change the game
fan that much?

Speaker 20 (01:33:11):
Okay, I think that's been pretty consistent. You know, when
we went from two it to mac Jones, you know,
I didn't feel like there was a huge like shift
in what the offense became. But I will say this
about arch I think one of the advantages that he
has is he has been a manning his whole life,
and he has been in the spotlight for a long time.

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And I think similar to Quinn who had been in
the spotlight for a long time, those situations now where
he has to be in front of the media, he's
used to doing that, where another quarterback who maybe didn't
have those that kind of exposure early on, it might
be something new that he has to handle, whereas standing
in a room in front of all you guys right now,
that's not something new for him. You know, He's been
doing that for a long time, So I think that

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that creates a little bit of ease for him.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Here it is Long Horns Go offensive coordinated the offensive
line coach, Kay Flood, and yes there was the requisite
question about or two about arch Manning and his progress
and readiness for the start of this football season coming up.
We have a Texas Long Worn basketball note to pass
along to when we continue on thirteen hunderd the Zone. Well,
I'm in Texas Long Run Football Conversation Day and there

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will be more tomorrow since players reporting to camp and
they get it going tomorrow. So today we've heard from
Kyle Flood, the co offensive coordinator and offensive line coach,
and the defensive coordinator Beat Kakowski tomorrow on the program

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some more offense AJ Milwie, who works closely with Sark
with the quarterbacks. Yes, that means arch Manning. We'll hear
from aj Milwie, and also we'll hear from special teams
coach and tight ends coach Jeff Banks. And then we
will also here from a conversation with the old friend

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and back on the coaching staf Dwayne n Keina, talking
about his readjustment to being back on the University of
Texas staff and also ready to get it going, and
who he likes and comparisons between some of the dvs
he has now and some of the outstanding ones he
had back then. So there's a lot there to digest

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as well. So that is coming up tomorrow, all right,
I mentioned long worn basketball note for you. As we know,
Texas released its non conference schedule and did so last week,
and their non conference basketball schedule includes games. They have

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a couple of close scrimmages, one against SMU and one
against TCU. The one against SMUs in Austin one against
TCU will be in Fort Worth, but the games it
will be to the public obviously start Tuesday, November fourth,
playing Duke in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
That's at what's the name of the arena Spectrum Center
there in Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Their home opener on Saturday, November eight, that's the Saturday,
the open date weekend for Texas is against Lafayette or Lafayette.
You see, Lafayette is the school in Pennsylvania, Eastern Pennsylvania
that is coming down to play Texas. It'll be first
meeting between the Lafayette Leopards and the long Ones. Lafayette
is in Louisiana, and they will tell you that's how
they pronounce the University of Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Lafayette the Rage in Cages.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
But it is Lafayette who is coming in to play
Texas on Saturday, November eight. That's the open date Saturday
for Long One Football. Saturday November eighth, the home opener,
taking on Lafayette. Wednesday, noverb twelfth against Fairleigh Dickinson at home.
It's a four game Homestown Lafayette, Fairley Dickinson, Kansas City
on Saturday, November fifteenth, and Writer on Tuesday, November eight.

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Then they go to Maui, maybe the first time that
Texas has actually played in Maui since twenty twelve, believed
or not. Twenty sixteen, which was Shaka Smart's first season,
that was the year that they were going to open

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the season in Shanghai, China. So between that and another
event where they had he felt that that young basketball
team would not be ready for that challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
So they they.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Navigated their way out of that event and wound up
going to Brooklyn to play a couple events in Brooklyn.
That was the same event that Texas played in last
year and got a chance to play there, so anyway
in Brooklyn, but so they didn't go there in sixteen.
Then in twenty twenty they were in the Maui Invitation.

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They won the Maui Invitation, but it went in Maui.
Twenty twenty was the pandemic and they played the Maui
Invitational in Asheville, North Carolina, up in the mountains, but
they did win it. They beat Davidson, Indiana, North Carolina
to win that event.

Speaker 9 (01:38:13):
So now.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
Here it is twenty twenty five five years later and
this time they will be going back to Maui and
the field and pairings were announced for the Southwest Maui
Invitational today and so here are the pairings the first

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game of the day, and I had a feeling this
was going to be the case. When you hear the field,
it'll kind of make sense to you why Texas is
playing when they're playing. The field starts with a game
on Monday, the twenty fourth, Seaton Hall in North Carolina State.
It's a ninth thirty in the morning Hawaii time and

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one thirty in the afternoon Texas time. That'll be followed
by usc AS in Southern cal and Boise State. Then
in the evening bracket starting the afternoon, Washington State Againt
Shamanad the host, and then the nightcap Texas against Arizona State,
and that game will be at ten o'clock Texas time

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on that Monday night of Feast week Thanksgiving week. But
Texas one of the marque names and that's why they're
playing in primetime. They would then play the winter or
loser of Washington State Shamana depending on how Texas does
against Arizona State, and then they could either play in
the championship or wind up in the you know, going
for fifth place or third place or something like that.

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But anyway, they made the pairing announcements today. The bracket announcement.
Texas will play Arizona State on Monday, November twenty fourth.
It'll be six o'clock Hawaii time, ten o'clock Texas time here,
and then they're gonna they would play the and to
be truthful, I don't think it'll be ten I think
it'll be ten thirty because it'll start thirty minutes has

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a completion in the first game, which will be Washington
State and Chamana. But anyway, that's the tournament field announced
in texall be there and then after that they'll finish
up non conference play with Virginia in the acc SEC
Challenge on Wednesday, December third. Monday December eighth, they have
Southern University in a game in Austin. Friday, December twelfth.

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They'll be in Hertford, Connecticut to play yukon Tuesday, December sixteenth,
playing Lemoyne. They're from Syracuse, New York. In Austin and
then Maryland Eastern Shore on Monday, December twenty seconds. So
that's the non conference schedule for the Longrorns. We'll wrap
up today's edition of the program on thirteen under the
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