Texas Players Preview Georgia, HSFB Bracket Breakdown

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
He's a Texas legend, a Hall of Fame broadcaster, the
voice of the Texas Longhorns, and your host of the
Craigway Show. Here he is now Craigway.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Into a Tuesday afternoon we traverse and glad to have
you with us this afternoon. Hello again, everybody, welcome to
the program here on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred the Sun.
I know they call it the Craigway Show, and that
happens to be my name. So I'm glad the two
can match up, and glad to bring you the program,
and we're always happy to converse with you. We of course,

(01:11):
includes the producer of the program, Jay Carman, who is
about to experience his first ever I think, correct me
if I'm wrong, played by play on high school football
playoffs in Texas? Am I right about that? Yeah? That's right.
I've never called a playoff game, have you.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I did Color for a radio feed. I want to
say it was round Rock and Vandergrift.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, couldn't be that. No, that wouldn't be a playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Even if it was four years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Couldn't have been that Round Rock was involved and I
was on Color four years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, all right, but play by play, and they would
have been in different divisions anyway, Division one and Division two.
That's why I say it wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
That's right, Okay, you know what, I'll go back and
try it.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Round Rock has a huge enrollment even back then, they
would have been Division one, and Vandergrift is almost all
ways he's been Division two. So yeah, but anyway, you
haven't done play by play of a playoff game, but
you're going to on Friday nine.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, Burbank Bulldogs come into Memorial Stadium in bass drop
to take on the Bears, who just suffer to set
back against Liberty Hills. So we'll see what version of
bass drop we get in that one.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, well, they've had nine good versions the just the
one was Liberty Hill. But that's what the Panthers can
do to teams. They're that good with it. But we
got a lot of other things to talk about today
on the program. College football things. We're going to hear
from Arch Manning. We're gonna hear from Colin Simmons. We're
gonna hear from Michael Taff from the Texas Longhorns. College basketball,

(02:43):
we'll hear from Sean Miller, Texas LONGRRNS head coach. So
we'll do all that there is NFL to unwrapped college
football stories to get to. We have inconceivable this hour,
next hour. Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas
FOOTBA magazine, joins us for our weekly conversation that'll be
in the three o'clock hour. So a lot to get to,

(03:05):
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(03:29):
we're going to give away what is it? Is it
four pairs of tickets or a couple pairs of tickets.
I'm trying to remember what.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I want to say.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's two pairs, Okay, four tickets. Two pairs, that's what
it is of tickets to tomorrow evenings Long Worn men's
basketball game. And we'll do that. And they played tomorrow
night at seven o'clock and against Fairley Dickenson University, and

(03:57):
so we'll give away a pair of tickets. To that
coming up. Let's see, somebody texted me or texted the
show yesterday. It was late in the show. In fact,
it was gosh, it was late night. I guess it was.

(04:17):
It said it was amazing to watch you navigate the
Moody stairs last night while calling the play by play
during the last minute half the women's basketball game. On
a separate note, I love when we get the D
three football scores in the final recap, but please add
in the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference are now at least
three Division three conferences in Texas and Texas Lutheran Bulldogs

(04:41):
are playing for the SCACK or the SCAC championship this
weekend and they have a wild conference championship weekend with
three games. Okay, there's two things to impact with that,
and I'm glad you brought them both up. We started
this last year. Actually we kind of just started dabble
in it a couple of years ago, and I had

(05:03):
made the suggestion to our now late producer of Bill Harwell,
the fabulous producer, best game producer I've ever worked around,
and he was the producer of long warn football broadcast
from nineteen eighty four until he passed away in twenty
twenty one, and we were always and he was always

(05:23):
looking for ways to improve the broadcast, and we both
agreed on something that when we have what's basically an
hour long network postgame show, there's people stuck in the
Manor garage trying to get out, or the Brassis garage,
or they're just stuck in traffic trying to get or
maybe they've just got a longer drive home or whatever.

(05:45):
That in addition to our postgame conversation, which is live
with head coach Steve Sarkisian and also with long warn
play years and we do that every game, so that's important.
We give the final stats of the game, that's important,

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and we have two sometimes depending on the length of
the game. And if it's home game or road game
and the team's trying to, you know, hustle out quickly,
they'll get us sark and the players much quicker than
probably at home games because he does his press conference
first for the home games before he joins us later
in the postgame show. And so we have either two

(06:28):
or three studio scoreboard segments. And Bill Harroll and I
agree that just having the studio anchor regurgitate the same
Top twenty five and the same now SEC back then
Big twelve, but the same scores over and over and
over would get a little a little repetitive. And what
I said to him was something I'd kind of thought

(06:51):
about in the past, simple water, but I had it
really came to the or for me. After a game
in Manhattan, Kansas, I was driving to Kansas City to
catch a commercial flight home that evening, so I had

(07:14):
a two hour drive and I'm listening to Kansas State's
extended postgame show. And when they got it back to
their flagship, what the guy did was not only giving
the other scores in the Big twelve, in the Top
twenty five, he gave the scores from virtually every other
college football program in the entire Sunflower State.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, Now, we could never get all of that in
in Texas because of all the programs that they're like.
But I mean, he was giving JUCO scores and you know,
and AIA and things like that. But it did give
me the idea that we could do certainly the other
Division one FBS programs in state, Like you know, obviously

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out of the Big twelve, you'd have TCU and Baylor
in Texas Tech of course would fall into without twenty
five because they're ranked there. But in the American or
in the ACC, you'd have SMU, you'd have Houston from
the Big twelve. In the American, you would have North Texas,
you would have UTSA, you would have Rice from Conference USA,

(08:16):
you would have Sam Houston, and you would have UTEP
so and then I got to thinking, you know, we
could probably expand this. I had two sons, both of
whom attended Division two lone star conference schools. My oldest
son went to Angelo State, my younger son went to
Midwestern State. And they're proud of their football programs, so

(08:37):
don't say. In fact, our affiliate in San Angelo as
an AM and an FM, and they put us on
the FM, and they put Angelo State on the AM,
so they do, you know, so they do it that way.
So anyway, at all these programs, and I thought we
could at the very least give the other Division one
and the FCS scores like from the Southland Conference like

(08:59):
UIW and Steven F. Austin and Lamar, and then we
could do Division two and Division three. So I passed
that along and we got our studio anchor on board
with that, and he's been humming along at it. Now
I will tell you this to the Texter. He probably,
you know, our studio anchor is not in the state

(09:20):
of Texas. He's sitting in a studio in Winston Salem,
North Carolina. But he knows the American Southwest Conference and
that's where Texas Lutheran used to be, and that's where
Southwestern used to be. But now in the Southern Collegiate
Athletic Conference there's been there's been change. So I'm glad
you brought that up. I will remind him of that

(09:40):
to check those scores as well, because the ones he
knows from Division three are basically from the American Southwest,
like Mary Harden Baylor and Hardin Simmons and you know
some of those other ones like that East Texas Baptist.
I think those so I will I will double my
efforts to make sure he knows.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now, Hey to the Texter, congratulations to TLU men's soccer
made a great run through the SEAC tournament. A little
bit of a surprise trip to Nationals coming up for
the Bulldogs there. I said, Cemi got to cover earlier
in the year, so congrats to them.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
All right, very good. Now to the other question or
his observation, and I appreciate the kind words on this
what he said. It was amazing to watch you navigate
the Moody stairs last night while calling the play by
play during the last minute half of the women's basketball game.
For folks who don't know what that's all about, we've

(10:35):
had it. There's a change in our broadcast location this year.
You know, we've been on the floor for a long time,
other than the pandemic year when we actually had to
call the games from a suite during the pandemic, but
we've been on the floor pretty much the entire time
until this year. That is because there was an increased

(10:56):
level of interest in purchasing court side seats for men's
and women's basketball, and the only way to accommodate that
was to move both radio broadcasts upstairs. They're required by
a conference rule to keep television down on the floor,
so what they did was basically what they had to
do the university was to limit it to one table

(11:19):
there court side for men's and women's basketball for the telecast,
and then they moved us up to the top of
the lower level. Now it's not a bad vantage point.
In fact, it's pretty much happened that way throughout the SEC.
And also that's where I called the game from Las
Vegas last year. It's where I think Texas State. If

(11:41):
you're broadcasting basketball games there, you're up on that landing
air on the concourse. It's not way up in the
upper deck or anything like that, but it's at the
top of the lower level. You still have really good
sight lines, and we have a television monitor and stat monitor,
we have effects feed, so everything still sounds on the
radio like right there on the floor. Were up at

(12:03):
the top of the lower level. We still see things
very very well. However, it does present a challenge for
women's basketball, not for men, because for men's basketball. Even
in this first season with Sean Miller, what we've done
is the same thing what I did with Roddy Terry
and Chris Beard before him they're at Moody, and that

(12:24):
was to go down to the locker room during our
studio anchor segments and record our postgame interviews with the
coach and with a player. We then quickly send those
to the studio and then they run those. So that's
how we do it. For men's basketball, but for women's
basketball it has to be different for a couple of reasons.
First of all, the women, the women's team and the

(12:47):
coaches stay on the floor a lot longer when the
game's over. They're greeting fans or signing autograss things like that.
So because of that, what we used to do when
we were on the floor while all that was going on,
we would call over, say an assistant coach and then
a player and put a headset on him. Well, now
that we're up at the top of the lower level,
that doesn't work. So what I have to do is

(13:09):
go down to the floor with a wireless microphone and
headphones tuned to our in house frequency, and I go
down and do the interviews. And it works fine. But
the only thing is, the only real concern is the
possibility of running into a traffic jam of fans coming
out if you wait until the game's over. And for
games that are really, really close, we won't have a choice.

(13:30):
We'll have to sit up there at the position and
do that and then maybe go down. There's a service
elevators and other elevators, even a backstair well. There's different
ways to get down there to the floor in time
and do it. But what we have been able to
do because the games have been lopsided is with about
two minutes to go in the game, between two minutes
a min and a half, I will actually while Kathy

(13:52):
Harson's making comment, take off my headphones, my headset, put
on some radio headphone, take the wireless mic, and get
up from my chair. And as she's finishing up her comment,
I'm going down the steps and I'm actually calling play
by play as the action goes, and I can usually
find a seat right down there by court side, and

(14:14):
about the last minute, minute half of the game, I'm
actually calling play by play on the wireless mic.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Wow, it's like it's like what they do in the NHL. Yeah,
yeahbody inside the glass.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, it's kind of almost like that. So then you
just finish it and then it's an easy, you know,
easy transition where you get out on the floor do
the postgame interview. Last night it was with Blair shaef
or the assistant coach, and then with Rory Harmon. So
it's pretty easy to do it that way when the
game is lopsided. If it's a tight game, I won't
be able to do that, I'll just have to you know,
We'll take a little longer break and I'll go down

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whatever way I have to go down.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
You can't get caught into court storming.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, and I don't think they'll do any court storms, well,
especially not women's best. But if you were on the road, yeah,
well on the road, we haven't figured that out yet
because we may be courtside in some of those cases.
We don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
And this is done though, through an in house frequency.
So let me ask you a follow up because I
know my friends ask this. Can you listen to that
in house frequency if you're sitting at the.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Game eighty seven point seven of m where you go
with no delay, listen? Yes, And for women's basketball and baseball,
there are a lot of fans who not only count
on that frequency if it's not there for whatever reason,
especially on the road or this or that, they let
me know about kenness, Hey do you not have it?

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Like?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, So we've endeavored to make sure we try to
provide that. You know, very few schools actually do that,
but we are team the radio broadcast, but we do it.
We try to provide that and it does help us
in this case. Certainly, and baseball it's it's vital because
what we do in baseball, Keith Morlan go down to
the field and have the wireless mic and have that

(15:56):
on one, so we take it with us on the road.
Definitely for baseball. It's a little different in the overlap
between football and basketball, between wireless equipment that we share
and things like that, but we try to do that.
So thanks for the compliment there. It's not that difficult
a thing to do while the game's going on. You know,
I've done this long enough to where you know you
can pick your spot and go down there and do

(16:16):
it and make it work. But yeah, if it's really
crowded or something in a tight game and all that,
I'll have to find alternative ways to make that happen.
All right, there's some housekeeping things there. I hope that
explained all that. Up next, we're going to hear some
long run football and basketball voices coming your way on

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thirteen Under the Zone. Lest we forget, it's a text
on Tuesday, which means in the four o'clock hour, at

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least one of the return cuts features the King George Strait,
and then in the three o'clock hour, this is the
iconic Willing Nelson. But here in the two o'clock hour
at Steve Immortal, Stevie Ray Vaughn, what are you hitting
us back with here?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Cold shot live from Austin.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Great live version of that too.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Glad to have you with us here on a Tuesday
here on Sports VIDEOA in thirteen yards and let's do
a little lightning round stuff. Some comments from long worn players,
and then here from men's basketball coach Sean Miller. First
of all, archpanning, and its first time for the media
to have a chance to visit with Arch since that

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Vanderbilt game. So they asked him what were his thoughts
overall and looking back at the first play from scrimmage
to seventy five yard catch and run for the touchdown
by Ryan Wingo.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah, I think it shows how dynamic Ryan is when
he gets the ball. Kind to continue to get in
the ball and start fast like that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
All right, simon some thoughts on getting ready to play Georgia.
He was asked if you can compare what the Georgia
defense looks like this year compared to last year.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
Yeah, they're a good team, well coached. They filed the ball,
so it's gonna be a fun one.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
And then there's the atmosphere of playing in Athens.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
Yeah, I went to a game there. I think my
junior high school. They played South Carolina. Yeah, it's a
big time atmosphere.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
I'm excited. All right.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So here's the question seemingly was required asking of the
media for whatever reason. Ask players, is this a knockout game,
it's a do or die game, all those kinds of things,
or is it just another game?

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yeah, we're just focused on today. Saturday will be here
soon enough. Got to focus on today and then have
a good pride to swamp.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, all right now. Colin Simmons, long orange rush edge,
was asked if he and the pass rush have been
overlooked on a national scale compared to what Georgia does
with its pass rush.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
I feel like we're right where we're supposed to be
when it comes to pass rush and everything.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
All right, So the pass rush has ramped up in
terms of its sacks, pressures, all of those things. How
has this pass rush improved over the course of the season.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
I feel like with the whole room has been improved
ten times as much as it was at the beginning
of the season. I feel like we all, we all
took place and we all put apart, and you know,
we all, you know, came in as a group, you know,
edges and d tackles and linebackers, and you know we
make the pass rush.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
You know what it is today?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right? And then you know, as effective as he
has been coming off the edge, on the opposite side
on the edge is Eaton Burke. And what has made
Burke so special this year to this team.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
Him him being him and not changing who he is,
and you know, not changing his play style, playing with
the utmost confidence and you know, him him being him.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Long Worge will get Michael Taff back this week coming
off of that broken thumb thing, and he was asked
how the thumb feels now and how much pain does
he have playing through it?

Speaker 9 (20:07):
Yeah, it was it was never about the pain. I
think for me, it's never really about the pain. You know,
I get on the football field, adrenaline kind of takes
over and my competitive spirit takes over. Is more so
just about being smart about it. You know, what is
the risks if you try to play? You know, and

(20:28):
so for me going into the Vanderbilt game, it just
didn't look good to the risks of re injuring it
and maybe being set back even more just didn't seem
worth it. And so it was never really about the
pain for me. You know, the pain feels good. It
feels a whole lot better now. Surgery went really well.

(20:50):
Uh they put you know, the surgery that they did.
They feel very confident in it. So I'm excited. I
just talked to the doctor today, so he said, go
cut it loose. I got full faith in you. Okay,
Well that's a good thing there.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
You noticed. You may have noticed that even in the
games that he was out the Mississippi State and the
Vanderbilt games, he was going out for the coin toss there,
the overtime coin toss as well. He was he was
going out there for the coin tosses. And he asked,
you know, why is he a part of that whole deal?

Speaker 6 (21:20):
I think I did it for Kentucky and.

Speaker 9 (21:25):
I got the coin toss right, and I thank Coach
Stark believes in me as a leader, and so he
knew I was locked into the game for Misssippi State,
So I guess it works.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
The week before when I do it again, yeah, why not?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
And even though they lost the coin toss. The second
time it worked out well because they wound up scoring
and then stopping Mississippi State to get the win. So
there was that. All right, we'll go here throughout the
course of the program this afternoon from Long Warn football players,
those guys in specific, all right now to basketball and Texas.

(22:00):
Off of the Saturday win they blew out Lafaye at
ninety seven and sixty. This is a four game stretch
at home, non conference opponents that quite frankly, the Long
Worn should be able to handle, and they certainly handled
Lafytte the other day. Fairley Dickinson is the one that
they'll deal with tomorrow night at Moody Center. And Sean

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Miller opened up press conference talking about the progress of
the team as they continue this four game homestand well.

Speaker 10 (22:31):
We've had a unique start to our season being that,
you know, Game one was against Duke and Charlotte, and
you know, I think you to say that potentially we
could have skipped some steps to go from you know,
first game ever as a new coaching staff and with
a collection of new players to that. But the good
part about playing a team like Duke in that environment

(22:53):
is you really have a chance to learn a lot
about yourself, and I thought we did, in fact learn
a number of valuable lessons that can help us improve
our team moving forward. And then we had our home
opener on Saturday, and I thought some of the lessons
that we learned we were able to kind of install

(23:14):
work towards and I just thought overall we were a
better group.

Speaker 11 (23:19):
Our overall level of.

Speaker 10 (23:20):
Play I thought improved, and some of the things we
talked about, like pace, and then just identifying roles, you know,
really allowing Jordan Pope to come into the lineup play
more point guard than maybe he has in the past,
maybe moving Tremont away from that and putting him in
that scoring role I think could really free him up.

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And then obviously just I think the second part of
this is just the feeling of playing in the Moody Center,
just what a special place it is.

Speaker 11 (23:53):
And I just wanted to.

Speaker 10 (23:55):
Thank the crowd, especially our students, for turning out on
a Saturday afternoon. And I believe this that our home
court has the makings of truly being one of the
best in the country.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Right Then, he was asked about the machinations that go
into deciding who starts the game, the lineup and the
different combinations and how all that works out.

Speaker 10 (24:16):
Sometimes it's matchup, but with the starting lineup, what you
really want to do is put your best five out
out there at the beginning to set the tone for
the game and regardless of the opponent, and what you
hope you can develop is an iron five where everybody
knows what to do, how to do it, and that
gets you that consistency gets you off to a good

(24:39):
start game in game out. We're a work in progress there,
but I do think to my earlier point, because of
what we learned in Charlotte, we I think have guys
in the right positions. And when I say that, also
to benefit the players. You know, Tremont Mark is a
terrific playmaker and he could do a lot of things

(25:00):
side score, but how what position he plays and how
that works a lot of times puts him in either
a better position to do that more often or sometimes
he's almost working against himself. And I thought the difference
in Tremon between game one and game two is he
was really freed up to do what I think he

(25:22):
does best, and that is just played a game and
wired to score and not have that extra burden of
trying to run the team and be an extension of
the coach and be a quarterback. I still think at
times he can lead us and assist and his playmaking
is good, but I think that's what's in his best interest,

(25:42):
in our team's best interest. Same thing with Kendall Weaver.
You know, Kendall could start in the last game.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
He didn't.

Speaker 10 (25:49):
But some guys just have a way of entering the
game as a non starter and impacting winning right away.
And I believe that Kendall, because of so many good
things that he can do on defense and on offense
and his unselfish nature, that making him our sixth.

Speaker 11 (26:06):
Man, you know, allowing him to enter the game.

Speaker 10 (26:08):
There shortly after the starting lineup is done can really
maybe give us a spark and also bring out the
best in him. So that's where we're at today, and
we'll see if we can keep moving in that direction.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
All right. That's long Orangs basketball coach A Shan Miller.
Long Oorns play Fairleigh Dickinson tomorrow night at Moody Center
six point thirty pre game start time, seven o'clock tip off,
and again we'll give away some tickets to that a
little bit later on in the program, but they were,
you know, going fire and Eco, fire and Eco.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
During their own team's free throws.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah yeah. And then first Mavericks organization, mainly Nico, they
were very but heard about it and had those fans
ejected from games who had signs and things like that.
Famous last words after the trade coach said, time will
tell if I'm right, whether time tells it. Ultimately, he

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won't be there to see it because he was fired. Today.
The Mavericks are three and eight right now. Luca by
the way, he's playing really well. Lakers are eight and three.
Donchens is averaging thirty seven points a game, nine and
a half rebounds and nine assists. Anthony Davis has played
in just fourteen regular season games for the Mavericks. He's

(27:27):
missed most of the last season with an abdominal injury,
and so it's kind kind of tough. Now, Cooper Flagg
did wind up with Dallas and that was good. And
you know, Davis, by the way, missed last night's home
loss to Milwaukee. I left calf strain as well. So anyway,

(27:51):
there was there's a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, well, and then there's this win now push around
Anthony Davis.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
But the problem is they didn't get a point guard.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, and obviously you know, uh, they're they're still shorthanded
in the back court. Kyrie Irving is out right now,
won't be back for a while. So Patrick Dumont, the owner,
sent an open letter supposedly through social media Mavericks fans,
explaining that they have to do you know that they

(28:23):
had the new do something else. Uh So, anyway that
that happened and he is out as well, all right.
College basketball Longhorn men's basketball coach Sean Miller had a
media session yesterday, and let's hear a little bit from

(28:44):
the Longhorn's head coach, starting with what is he looking
to see his team improve upon over these next few
ball games, especially the next three they have at home.

Speaker 10 (28:56):
One in the obviously is look, we have to win, right.
You know the thing about college basketball that's upside down.
These games in November have an amazing amount of meaning
because these are the non conference games we chose to schedule,
and a lot of times, how you do before the
conference play begins. I mean, the finality of it is

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just right around Christmas. Okay, that's it. This is who
you played, This is who you beat, So we have
to be ready game in, game out. And then at
the same time, the obvious other part of it is
you want to want to improve, especially in our case
because we're so new. I think for us pace of play,
we have to get to a point where we understand
playing at a faster rate doesn't mean shoot quick, but

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playing throughout that forty minutes and having more pressure on
the defense.

Speaker 11 (29:43):
We want to improve there.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
The second thing is just from an offensive perspective, just
being sharper, just we have a few segments in each
game where you know, one guy's off the page and
we don't run the set play that was called like
we should have, you know, the execution part of the game.
November is a big part, a big month where you

(30:05):
can develop that you can really improve from game to
game in that aspect. And then I think from a
defensive perspective, I think you guys are probably starting to
see it.

Speaker 11 (30:15):
I think we have the makings of a team that
can defend.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
We have size, we have versatility, we have depth, and
we have to make that part of our identity where
on a given night we can win a game because
of our physicality and our defense or not just reliant
on one side of the ball. You want to be
able to do both good defense, good offense, and a
lot of times when you have a great offensive night,

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it's because your defense was tough. You've got steals and
deflections and stops and that leads to transition and without
a lot of people realizing it, your offense really benefited
from great defense. So I think that's what we're trying
to build most importantly, just working hard every day. And
you're right, we do have these two weeks and it's

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about the games and it's about keep getting.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Better, all right. It is You can take it to
the bank that at almost every press conference in some
form for long run coaches, the coach will be asked
some sort of recruiting based question as you get closer
to signing day, is you evaluate your signing classes? Things

(31:26):
like that? And it starts with somebody said, well, I understand,
you know you can't you can't comment on specific players,
but you know that's so the question was asked about
what is he looking for to finish out his recruiting class?
What will be a signing class.

Speaker 10 (31:43):
Yeah, I don't know how much I can elaborate other
than you know, high school recruiting is a big part
of what we want to do to build our program.

Speaker 11 (31:52):
There's different philosophies.

Speaker 10 (31:54):
I think for us, retention of our best players is
second to none that are already here, that are moving
towards their degree, that have played for Texas, that have
played in the SEC. There's a great value and benefit
from experience. We want to make sure that those that
have the opportunity to come back, they come back bigger, better, stronger,

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more experienced and improve here inside of our program. And
then you know, I don't think we are after a
large recruiting class from high school. We want to get
those that can impact our program in their first year,
that work well together, that fit how we do things.
And then you know, the third part obviously becomes the spring.

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And I don't think we ever want to be dependent
on the portal like we were this spring out of more.

Speaker 11 (32:45):
Necessity and circumstance.

Speaker 10 (32:48):
But I do think getting that right difference maker or
an ingredient that you don't currently have that you can
get in the spring through the portal. So it's that
combination of all three is how we want to do that.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Another thing that has come up and has been discussed
is pace. Basically, now the long ones are averaging seventy
eight and a half points to the first two games.
That's because mainly because they scored ninety seven the other
night they had sixty in the lost Duke. So, but
there was voice not only by Sean Miller but by

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his players as well, the interest in pushing the pace,
getting it a little more up tempo than in just
you know, certain spot areas. So Miller's asked, is there
a fine line of when you look to push the
pace as opposed to settling in what you have to
settle in for in the half court attack.

Speaker 10 (33:41):
That's through experience, through game experience, learning what to do
how to do it. You know, I think the first
six seconds of his shot clock represent this represent force
in terms of the other team has has an awareness
and an understanding and pressure put on them.

Speaker 11 (34:03):
Of that the ball is getting up and down the court.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
The five players that are on the court, like we're
seeking that first four to six seconds where if you
give us a shot in as first four to six seconds,
it's going to because either a you broke down or
we made you break down through our pace, the ball
and the people, the five players moving up and down.

Speaker 11 (34:24):
It's as much that as anything.

Speaker 10 (34:26):
Right, the shots that are going to go up in
the first six seconds, most of the time there aren't
going to be a lot. But when you get four points,
six points, eight points in those first six seconds of
the shot clock, it breaks the other teams back. I
mean a lot of times at the end of the game.
It's the difference between winning and losing. I also tell

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you that once you get the ball up constantly and
you're putting pressure, then the next action which then triggers
like quick ball movement, people movement. Sometimes they still feel
the pace the defense does because they've had to get
back and now they had to acknowledge that other things
are happening. So I think the intelligent part is when

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you can connect both. You can connect a quick push
and then you can connect the next action the first
maybe two passes and you go from there. Like to me,
that puts pressure on the defense, and that's what we're
trying to build. So we're clear against Duke, we didn't
do that well, and Duke had a lot to do
with that. They're an excellent defensive team. Their size and

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their length, their ability to get deflections.

Speaker 11 (35:33):
It'll hurt our offense.

Speaker 10 (35:34):
And then the other part of it is some of
it was self inflicted, in which you know, it takes
it sounds good to play fast, but it takes a
big commitment to running conditioning.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
All right, we'll hear more from Jean Miller a little
bit later on this is hour up. Next back to
football conversations in the lone Star State, we visited with
Greg Tepper, editor in chief of Dave Campbe's Dave Campbell's
Texas Football Magazine. When we continue on thirteen under the
Zone Mad.

Speaker 12 (35:58):
Just above the fruit the Playrick got.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Studs of.

Speaker 13 (36:18):
And from.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
From frum Sea Shine see.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I'm grey Willie Nelson on this Veterans Day here as
we pay tribute to all of those who have served
our country. Of course, we hear from Willie on this
Texan Tuesday, and we do that each week and on Tuesday.
Of course, that means we welcome in the editor in

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chief of Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine, Greg Tepper, who
I was told this the other day, you and I
are going to be paired up on one of the
state championship telecasts. Is that right, Tip?

Speaker 5 (37:01):
I believe that's correct. I believe it's the Thursday Morning
Affair to a division one. I forgot that this is
an odd here, and so they reversed the order. But yes,
two A division is the small eleven nine quasification. And
I've got to tell you, Craig, I do not I
do not think there are two people in the world.
With all due respects to all the great guys that

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we work with on the broadcast, I don't think there's
anybody in the world who is more suited to talk
about two schools with a combined enrollment of like two
hundred and forty and you and I I think we think.
I think that is that is what we were put
on earth to do.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
And and you know what, I appreciate you even more
for that, considering the fact you graduate from a six
A high school.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
That's That's the funny thing is that Top Hell is
one of, like I want to thin, it's one of
the top ten biggest schools in Texas. I mean, we
hadn't actually snapshot chases just a week about a week ago,
and they turned in an enrollment, you know, right around
four thousand. So yeah, but what can I say when
you get down to those small school players where you
know you're going to have the teams run out of

(38:04):
the tunnel and you can count them on on you know,
two hands, four hands. Uh, that's the That's what I'm
That's what I'm talking about. But yeah, that'll be a
lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Here's here's how you can tell when it's a small school.
When the entire football team can gather inside the inflatable
tunnel before they run onto the field. That's that's that's
a sure sign there. And the other the other reason
to bring this up tap is we bump back with
Willie Nelson. Of course the native of Abbot is the
biggest surprise going into the playoffs that Abbot is not

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in the postseason this year? Or is it just one
of the biggest surprises.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah, it's it's one of them. There. There's kind of
a list of teams that I think are are surprising.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Now.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
We thought that, you know, and and you know, we
thought that that Abbot may have it down year. They
graduated pretty heavy and certainly you know that's especially in
six man. When we talk about graduating heavy, we're talking
about you know, losing you know, sometimes upwards of eighty
percent of your team and of an offseason. So certainly
there's that. But yeah, I mean there's a handful of
teams that I think are surprising that that didn't that

(39:05):
didn't make the playoffs. You know, rock Wall did not
make the playoffs. There's a number of I think big
time programs that we are used to seeing that are
going to be sitting at home this this, you know
in the postseason. You know, you know Rockall being one
of them. Lank Assert missed the playoffs, right, Beaumont Westbrook,
who was up to such a fantastic started ban, ended
up missing the playoffs. Mansfield Summit missed the playoffs. Henderson

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is out of the playoffs.

Speaker 13 (39:30):
It's a it's.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
A different crop, certainly.

Speaker 13 (39:33):
I just actually just posted on my Twitter.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Account there's about a nineteen percent churing rate this year.
About about five hundred and forty of the teams are
back after making the playoff last year. But we do
have one hundred and thirty four newcomers to the Texashigh
School of Wall playoffs, which should make for a u
fun ride.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Absolutely, we'll get back to high school. A man, let
me jump to college and start with you there. Because
in the Dave Campbell's Texas football at PS Power Pole.
There wasn't a lot of shake up SMU moving up
to five, Houston moving up to six, TCU dropping there
after blowing that seventeen to six home leading againt Iowa State,
they dropped down and then it goes through the rest

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of this What about your take on this state?

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Now?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
And I know a lot of folks are pointing toward
A and M and Texas on Black Friday, but the
loar warners are going to have their hands full obviously
going to Athens, Georgia and playing the fifth ran Georgia Bulldogs.
Right in Texas Tech. What did they answer the bell
on Saturday and just funk a really good BYuT.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah, I think that what you're seeing there is kind
of a separation of the top few teams. Obviously what
A and M has been doing going up to Missouri
and having no problem with a wounded Missouri team and
really dismantling them in their own barn. And then obviously
what Texas is doing a huge game this week. But yeah,
I think when you take a look at the most

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impressive results, Texas Tech has got to be up there.
I Mean, that was a that's a big, big, game, right,
that's one of the biggest home games they've had in
quite some time. And you always wonder, you know, are
they going to have summit for the fight, are they
going to come out the you know, nervous or flat
that they came out like a house on fire offense,
you know, you know, I had trouble finishing drives, which
I think is something to keep an eye on down

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the road. But as long as they're getting defensive performances
like that, I mean, they smothered BYU B Yu and
never felt like they were threatening seriously offensively, and that
I think is a credit to what they've been able
to do to build I think that Shield would the
defensive coordinator there at Texas Tech. If you remember, they
kind of posted him from Houston last year until again

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and brought him up to Lubbock, and he has paid
significant dividend. That yeah, we can talk about, you know,
all of the playmakers that they've got there. They're starting
to rally behind. Jacob Rodriguez is like a dark horse
Heisman candidate, and certainly he has been fantastic. But I
do think that that you take a look at the
coaching staff and what Shield would have done there as
a defensive coordinator. That's that's one of the best jobs
in America right now, is what he's doing, and it

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has them poised for or what could be.

Speaker 13 (42:00):
A very special year.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
And I posted this on Twitter kind of during that game,
as things were starting to a little rowdy out there
at Tech and became more apparent that they were going
to pull away from Byu. I was saying, man, can
you imagine what a home playoff game for Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
What look like?

Speaker 5 (42:17):
And that you want to talk about it in an
asylum there and in Lubbock. If they were to get
a home game, that could be something to watch but
obviously still work to do for the Red Raiders, but
an impressive most recent performance.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
You say Asylum, I think it would be looney Bins. If,
like many are projecting still three weeks to go, that
it winds up being Texas playing in Lubbock, I think
that would mean that because now if you ask, if
you ask long warn fans, a lot of fans like
listen the team. I think they'd sign up for that

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right now. If you'd say, Okay, you don't have to
worry about how you're going to do against Georgia or
A and M. You're going to be in Lubbock to
play in the playoff, would they sign up? Probably?

Speaker 13 (42:59):
So, you know, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
I think you just want to have an opportunity to
get to the dance and that that I think is
the name of the game for Texas is is getting
to get into the playoff.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Where it falls from there, you know, that's it. But
but you've got to You've got to have a ticket
to begin with. And if Texas can just find their way,
then you know, look, you you will deal with the
elements as they are presented at that point. But but
you know, if you're in Texas, you can't necessarily, uh,
let's move do this way. You cannot at this point
in the season, with how the season has gone. Uh,

(43:30):
you cannot necessarily complain about where or when or whom
you're playing. You just need to make sure that you're playing. Uh.
You know, for Texas, I think they kind of surrendered
that that right of of you know, being too picky
and choosy, probably when they lost that game to Florida.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
The other two teams that it brings up quite a
bit of intrigue because I think TCU now has played
its way out of the Big twelve chase. But the
other two teams that you can still speak in conversation
about possible championship game appearances are North Texas and SMU.
SMU's path they need some melp when they got to win.

(44:09):
But the North Texas thing is really really funky when
you consider that North Texas, Navy, South Florida Two Lane,
and East Carolina all have just one conference loss. And
it's more the norm tap than the exception that there's
not a lot of head to head between all those teams.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
That is, and that is the problem if I can
get on my soapbox now with these with these super conferences,
is that it used to be that if everyone played everyone,
then great, you can you have an immediate tiebreaker and
if we get to a third tiebreaker, we can deal
with that when we need it, but we have at
least that head to head. But the issue is you're
exactly right that.

Speaker 13 (44:47):
With these super.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
Conferences, obviously you can't go out there and you can't
you know, put these these these tiebreakers together, can't play
everybody when they're sixteen teams in the conference. And so
now we're just kind of projecting and we're having to
use other measures here, and so I think that's one
of the real downsides here is that, you know, you
go back to you know, allow me to dust off
my Dave Campbell's Texas football bona fides here, you go

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back going to South West Conference days. Everyone played everyone
and so it wasn't a problem. We got to know
you know who, you know, we know who was playing
woman and who was better than whom.

Speaker 13 (45:20):
And so that to me is one of the real.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Shames here is that you're right, this is going to
be unnecessarily complicated in the American Now. I do think
that North Texas sets themselves up really well. Obviously, the
win over Navy is enormous. That's a really really big win.
They're going to be, in my opinion, pretty clear favorites
over the remainder of their teams. You know, they play
UAV they play Rice, and they play Temple. They are
those are three teams that in my estimation, they aren't

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better than. What they've got to vote for is that
they're kind of chaos around them, and if they don't
get caught in a situation where they are, they are
on the wrong end of some funky tiebreaker of three
way teams that they are. They are at least, at
the very least one of the top two teams to
go into the AAC Championship game. So for North Texas,
all you can do is go out there and take

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care of your business.

Speaker 11 (46:05):
They've got three games.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
Ahead of them, all all of which I think are winnable,
and if they win those three games, it's hard to
imagine a situation where they're left out, but because of
the kind of state of the conference is, it can't
be ruled out.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Unfortunately, here's my suggestion. If they wind up with a
complicated tiebreakers, they all show up at the twot and
totem and playing view and flip coins.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
Would you be on with that.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
I've said this before and normally I talked about this
as far as like schemes are concerned, but high school
football really is a trickle up sport that this is
where we do all our innovating, this is where we
get our best ideas, and once again, Texas high school
football to come through with just like, what if we
all just get together and flip a coin?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
That's good.

Speaker 13 (46:48):
Although we did have.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
I don't know if you saw there is another Texas
high school football playoff game, and it was it's Holly
versus Holly is playing for Sam and Holly are playing
the by district match up, but they don't like they're
not near each other and stuff. They agreed to do
their who would be home and who would be way

(47:10):
played in neutral size, being played in the Sweetwater. But
they decided that they would say, Okay, we'll decide home
in a way based on the final score of the
Texas Tech BYU game. If Texas Tech and BYU ends
in a total of odd numbers and Holly is the
home team, and if the even numbers, then it's for Sam.
That's that's again, we can figure these things out. We
don't have to over complicate these things. Why don't we

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just pick one game and just say, all right, you're on,
you're even.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
You know what? That is almost as cool, almost as
cool as to Texas high school football teams and wind
up having to play a playoff game in Oklahoma because
it's it's closer to them both, you know, play a
playoff game for Texas high school football out of state,
and we see that normally pretty routinely.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Yeah, we don't have one this year. We don't have
an out of state playoff game in the first round
this year, but we do. You're exactly right. We'll have
a game in Oklahoma because it's just easier to cut
the corner if you're playing a Panhandle team versus let's
say Taxilim the teams see here to cut the corner.
Or you'll have it in New Mexico. Sometimes same thing.
Guys in Panhandled playing team from you know, let's say
El Paso or kind of that greater far far West Texas.

(48:15):
Then yeah, you can cut it and meet somewhere in
Carl Spaces or something.

Speaker 13 (48:19):
But Carl fad exactly right.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
You can buy us some places, but that is we
don't have any of those this year. All three hundred
and fifty two playoff games will be played contained within
the state Texas.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
All right. A couple of things here. One I mentioned
this yesterday. I think it is just a fabulous story
that east Side Early College got into the playoffs for
the first time. Is east Side Early College? And first
time you said Matt Stepp had researched in said nineteen
ninety one, as the old Johnston High schools. The last
time they'd gotten the end so I think that's really cool. Now,

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if we're being realistic, obviously they're playing Davenport so that
their playoffs they may be only the Thursday night. But
I think that's cool. And then the other thing I
mentioned about the most surprising things about teams that didn't
get in, is there one other than say east Side
that just just really leaked off to the paye etch
and said, wow, they got in.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Yeah, I'll give you a couple. One of them is, well,
we'll talk really about Well, first of all, let's let's
talk about what happened with Dallas Lincoln if you missed this, So,
Dallas Lincoln, they we knew they were getting into the playoffs,
but in order to win their district, they had to
win their game by ten points or more. Okay, So

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they go and they're playing they're playing Carter in their
in their final game, and it goes to overtime.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
And that's where Scott Van Pelt would would step in
and say, overtime is not the friend of the trying
to win by plus.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Ten, right, correct, So imagine everyone's surprised when Dallas Lincoln
gets the ball first of the inn, they go down
score and then they finished the game with an interception
return for a touchdown to win by thirteen points and
get number one seat. So that was about as wild
as you're going to see. The other one that for me,

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and we knew Lincoln was getting in the playoffs, it
was just gonna be a matter of where they were
going to go. The other one for me is the
Canipper Rock Crushers, who most recently relaunched their program last year.
They had been dormant for years. They played six dam
ball for the first time, and they are in the
playoffs for the first time in program history. What a

(50:29):
remarkable job there for them to get in. But I
think that you're right, Austin east Side is really one
of those fabulous stories of I can't believe that they
got in, especially literally eighteen months ago, less than eighteen
months ago, I was on the phone a Luisa Say
writing a story about teams with the longest losing streets
in Texas high school football. And now they're dancing, and yeah,

(50:52):
they're gonna be underdogs in Davenport, but you know what,
you taking the dance and strange things happen.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's true, all right. So Greg cap editor in chief,
Tape Campbell's Texas Football Magazine was all right, Now, we
normally do the meanest thing we do, and I'm sure
you'll do it to me on Thursday. I'm going a
different route with this instead of having you choose between games,
because listen, you've heard me say this. I've said it
on the TV show we did together for years. I
still say it all the time. All playoff games are

(51:19):
created equal. Now, I'll go Orwellian on end say some
games are a little more equal than others, but all
playoff games are created equal, meaning that you win, you
survive in advance, you lose your seasons over. So with
that in mind, I'm about to rattle off not that
I need to for you, you know them all, but

(51:39):
I'm going to rattle off for those who don't remember
the sixth or the twelve defending state champions and ask you,
first of all, which school is most likely to repeat,
which one is least likely to repeat. So we're going
to start with that at starting from the top six
A Division one North Crowley six A Division two is

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Vandigriff five A Division one is Smithson Valley five A
Division two is Richmond Randall four A D one defending
state champions Slana four A Division two, Carthage three A
Division one, Columbus three A Division two, Gunner two A
Division one, Gnado two A Division two, Monster Won A
six man Division one, Gordon one A six man Division two, Jaydon.

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Which of those twelve state champions, first of all, is
most likely to repeat? Which is least likely to repeat? Think?

Speaker 13 (52:31):
The most likely to repeat?

Speaker 5 (52:33):
I think falls in two categories. The answer is the
Gordon Longhorns in one A Division one. They are a
runaway freight train. And I talked with the coach earlier
this week and he said it would be a surprise
if Gordon played a second half in playoffs. And what
we're talking about there, if you don't know, would be
there's a forty five point mercy rule at halftime in
six man football. That means that think they're gonna beat

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everybody by forty five and twenty minutes of football. It
is they are a runaway for eight trade. There the
clear and decisive favorite in one A Division one. And
that is, by the way, all due respects to a
Water Valley team that I think is really good and
has an opportunity. You know, in many, many, many other
years to be a clear favorite in the bracket, but

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Gordon looks like a runaway freight train.

Speaker 13 (53:16):
The other one that I would say it would be most.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Likely, I might look at a team like Carthage, And
part of that is obviously the pedigree. They've got eleven
state championships and under Scott's are at these ten and
zero state championship games. But also I think that when
you take a look at their draw, they would see
Pleasant Grove in the third.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Round of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
They would see a team like Happened who gave them
some trouble and district play, potentially in a rematch in
the fourth round, and then they would see a team
like Brock or maybe my darling Midland green Woods in
the state semifinals before they get to a title game.
They are certainly capable of tripping up anywhere, but I
do think that that pedigree and they tend to play
their best football when it matters the most, and so

(53:56):
Carthage would be as far as eleven minute concerned, maybe
being most likely to go back to back as far
as least likely. And I'm gonna win some friends and
influence people around the Greater Austin area but it might
be Vandergrift. Now that's not the say I don't like Vandergrift.
I like this team a lot, Miles Tadki. I think
has been sensational. They have I think, really reloaded in
a really nice way. But their draw is about as

(54:20):
brutal as it gets. Where you are opening to see
the playoffs with the team that played for a six
to a Division one seed championship a year ago in
the west Lake Chaferales, that's brutal. Now if you get
past that, I will say thing can open up a
little bit, and they've got an opportunity. I think they'll
be favored over Brandeis, Arisota Mayor. Then they will play
a team from either the Rio Grand Valley or or

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San Marcus or Ego Pass before they will probably play
Dripping Springs in or in a rematch for a team
like Harlan. So things do open up.

Speaker 13 (54:52):
But I do think that.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Based solely on their draw, and they solely by drawing
west Lake in the first round of the playoffs, that
has to I think put them as one of the
teams least likely to repeat, simply because that is a brutal,
brutal set of circumstances for them for you know, drifting
springs to them. No favors knocking off west Lake in
the first round, all right, and then we love.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
The rather okay, all right, So here's the final question.
I think I already know the answer to this. I
know what my answer would be. But I think we're
probably going to be on the same plane here. Which
classification has the best chance of having back to back
state champions in both of its divisions?

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Oh, that's a good one. So it's probably not six
A note laid up certainly could be five A.

Speaker 13 (55:38):
I like Smith and Valley a lot.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Uh Carthage and Salina is an opportunity, although I think
four eight Division one is dangerous.

Speaker 13 (55:48):
And I think I think four Division one.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
I think Salion's got a brutal draw. Three A I
can't like. Columba can absolutely win it, and Gunner can
certainly go for the four piece. But I do think
that that is going to be very like, that's going
to be tough on I think because three Division one
has been so chaotic, and so I'm hard for us
to say three A Division one, I know exactly how
it's going to go. Two A can certainly go with Gnado.

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I think they'll have an opportunity to play with Furio
again in a regional final. And then Munster I think
is one of the favorites in two Division two, but
it's probably one A. It's probably Jaydon in one division
two and Gordon, although I will say that Jayton will have.

Speaker 13 (56:27):
To play in the semifinal.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Lemisa Klondike more than likely a Klondike is a problem.
They are really really good at her coach Jalton degraffa
red So I would say one A is probably the
place where you are most likely to see the double repeat.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Okay, I would go with four A, but the only
reason I would go with four A is yeah, I
think you'd have to extrapolate it and say which of
those two defending state champs in four A or one
A might be least likely to lose. And I think
you're talking about so Line in four A D one
because Stephenville's the best four A team I've seen seen
this year, and then and then one A Division two.

(57:02):
I'm with you on Klondike on that. So I think
for me it comes down to who has the better
chance Jaydon getting past Klondike or Salina getting past Stephenvill.

Speaker 13 (57:13):
Yeah, oh yeah, or within within their.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
Own regions, Salona getting past team like Alboreto. It's it's dangerous,
but yeah, I think that you're right. Yeah, it's it's reasonable.
I think for four A as well. But the great
thing is that those predictions, all these things that I
feel so confident about, all these things that I feel
like I know types in high school football because I
e sleep and breathe it. We're going to wake up
on Saturday morning in a haze and say, what in

(57:38):
the heck just happened? Like how did that happen? We're
going to have some team that sprays some enormous upset
and knocks out, you know, a team that I thought
was going to make a state semifinal. So that's a
great thing. The great thing is like listening to us
right now and then on Saturday will be kind of
scratching our heads just.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Like you are.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah, no doubt about it. He's Greg Tepper at Tepper.
You can follow him there on X and you know
the great work they do at Dave Campbell's Texas Football
Magazine and including Texas Football Friday when they wrap up
everything on Friday nights you're back. You're back in the
saddle for that this week, right. I know you guys
had to keep your powder dry and loosen them get
ready for your big bracket reveal, which was outstanding on

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Saturday night.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Yes, but we are. We are moving to Saturday. The
show is back in its highlight form on Saturday night.
But we're waiting until all the games come in so
the wee can get you updated on all the brackets
from the weekend. So Saturday night, ten thirty pm wherever
you stream.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
All right, very good, Hey TEP, thanks for the time, appreciate.

Speaker 13 (58:31):
It, all right, Terff Boston guys, yep.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
That's great, Taper. Editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
Back to Long Worn Football when we continue on thirteen
under the Zone. Yeah lot, all right, thanks agin the
Greg chapter managing you used to be managing editor in
chief Dave campus Texas Football Magazine. Join us. Do you
have a Texan Tuesday toss?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Back to us here the great Gary Clark with when
my train pulls in?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Yep, Garry Clark Junior, Gary Clark. All right, let's go
back hearing from Long Worn Football players, starting with Arch Manning,
who was asked about what did he learn, Uh, in
the four games away that the long worn's had away
from home anyway in October, that applies in this case.

Speaker 7 (59:17):
We're going to fight to the end and just got
to continue to get better and stay connected.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
The other thing, he was asked about, what, you know,
what position group would he highlight that doesn't really seem
to get enough recognition.

Speaker 7 (59:26):
I think probably a tight ends Jack injuries, Jay was
Wash and Nick Townsend. They've done a hell of a
job in Spencer two and Amari. I'm excited for them.
They're just gonna continue to keep getting better and great teammates.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
All Right, we've heard a little bit from Colin Simmons.
We're gonna hear some more from him in a little bit.
We're gonna hear from Ethan Burke tomorrow. But Arch was
asked what are Burke and Simmons like as locker room personalities.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
He's, Uh, he's been great.

Speaker 7 (59:53):
He's he's one of the funniest guys on the team,
kind of free spirit, unique guy. We're glad to have him.
He's hilarious. Colin the ultimate competitor. So it's kind of
having both of those.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Guys, all right, next asked about the changes along the
offensive front with now Cole Hudson at left guard and
how about the confidence for this unit.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
I'm confident my guys ten too's down with them the
whole way and close.

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
The dynamic player able to play center and guard and
knows what he's doing.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
So we're excited.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
And then he was asked if he has an appreciation
for a second bye week now that SEC play has started.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Thinks so yeah, just to get your bodies back, take
a little mental break and then back.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Raady we'll go, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Some more from Colin Simmons, who was asked about what
has really made Ethan Burke special this year for the
team and what what what he has done. Actually we'll
we'll move on to about what he learned on the
road playing for a month straight away from home.

Speaker 8 (01:00:54):
That we miss home, that we missed, we missed, we
missed dk R and we missed bustin fans, you know,
the long corner fans in the stadium and the atmosphere
and the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
So did this road stretch toughing everybody up?

Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
Yes, for shut that for showt that a lot of
adversity and stuff like that. That we have to overcome,
and you know, I'm just glad we went through it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Now back to Ethan Burke, what does he feel he's
learned from ethanburg Like.

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
I said him, you know how he is as a person,
how he is as a player on and off the field, personality, everything,
the music he listens to, you know, it's just everything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
And for Michael Taff, of course, he and Julanie McDonald
both got banged up in the Vanderbilt game. McDonald had leave,
went through protocol, all that kind of stuf there. Browth
back this week and he was asked about his relationship
with Jilanie and the mindset the two we have going
into this game.

Speaker 9 (01:01:46):
Yeah, we're really good friends. We talk all every single
day about you know, getting better and what we need
to do to just keep going. I often say like
our team is always going up, We're always getting better.
You know, we still haven't hit our peek and so

(01:02:07):
Manjelani talk about that for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
All Right, we'll hear more from all three of these
guys coming up next hour. We'll wrap up Hour number
two coming up on thirteen under the Zone, third and
final hour of the program here on Sports Radio Am
thirteen hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
The Zone Craig Wayne.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Joined by the producer Jay Carman. We're glad to have
you with us. Listen. Uh I had said we were
going to give away some uteam men's basketball tickets, and
I planned to do in the three o'clock hour. We
got a little behind the things, so we're gonna give
away a pair right now. We'll give away a pair.

(01:02:49):
And it doesn't even need this pair does not even
need to be on the talkback. This could be on
the text line. But what you have to do is
tell me the last time Texas won a conference tournament
in basketball. Tell me the last time. First correct answer

(01:03:10):
on our text line, you text the word Texas, follow
by your guests at eight one to five three zero,
last time the Texas won a conference tournament in basketball
and the last time you can tell you the last
time it happened. Be the first one with the correct answer,
and you'll get a pair of tickets to the game
tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Hang on men's or women's basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I did say men's. Okay, we are giving away tickets
to the men Okay, yes, so anyway, that'll be the deal.
First first correct. So since we're on that subject, why
not here from Sean Miller, the long run men's coach,
and I was asked about the big game experience of

(01:03:52):
something right, A good question. Roger Wallace asked about trying
to replicate things on the floor which are difficult were
difficult to do in practice than if you've actually seen
action in the game, especially a game like Dude.

Speaker 10 (01:04:05):
Very big game experience, and we didn't play any game
prior to Game one in front of a crowd either, right,
whether it be like an orange and white inner squad
scrimmage in front of a crowd or an open exhibition game.
For example, Duke Tennessee played an open exhibition game right

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where they went through in front of twelve thousand people
and three referees, et cetera. Game experience is big. It's
that game pressure that everybody feels that you can't simulate
in any closed scrimmage or practice environment.

Speaker 11 (01:04:41):
So you're right, you learn a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:04:43):
But I also think that once games begin, you have
a great opportunity to improve. And that's so big for
us in the month of November to win as many
games as we can, but to be on the rise,
to be a team that is getting better and better
every time that you watch us play, we should look small,
it should look it should look more confident, and I

(01:05:04):
think just as a fan, you should start to see
the way we're trying to play the game, both on
offense and defense.

Speaker 11 (01:05:11):
And at the beginning sometimes it's choppy.

Speaker 10 (01:05:13):
You know, you just have certain things that happen in
a game that we got to get rid of, and
we had some of that even in our game against Slafayette.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Okay, so as they continue to work on that, that's
the things are trying to improve upon there. Okay, we
do have a winner. That did not take long for
someone to guess that. The last time that happened was
going on three years ago. Twenty twenty three, Texas won

(01:05:44):
the Big Twelve Tournament championship under Rodney Terry, the Big
Kansas by twenty in the final. You thought twenty twenty one?
Did you not?

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
You know, that's because my Texas fandom went into the
black hole when I first moved up to North Dakota,
which is always happening at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yep, they did win in twenty twenty one. That was
the interesting thing is Texas had never won the conference
tournament title in basketball and men's basketball had never won
it until twenty twenty one the pandemic here Long Horns
beat Oklahoma State in the final when Schackaspart was the coach.
And that's of course when they went in the NC

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tournaments the three seed and got upset by Ablinge Christian
in the first round. But two years later, in twenty
twenty three on the Rodney Terring, Longhorns won the Big
twelve tournament just throttled Kansas. Dylan de Sue just was
a monster throughout the tournament, named the tournament MVP, and
they went to the Elite eight where they lost the
heartbreaker to Miami and the Elite eight.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
And may have been different had they had that Sue.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Yeah, well, or any version since he couldn't play in
that game afterwards. So the texter who just texted that
and we see your number on there, just go ahead
and text your name and we'll make sure we get
tickets to you for that for de Morrow and we'll
have another pair that will give away before the show
is over. So that text are very quick on the trigger.

(01:07:08):
Well done, all right, So more from Sean Miller asked
about the loss to Duke and they played really well
in the first half led by pointed they have thirty
three thirty two, gave up an eleven oh run to
start second half, they got down by double digits, came back,

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pulled it within three, and then Duke pushed him away
in the final nine minutes of the basketball game. So
Tean Miller has asked, where the guy's mad about it?
When they looked at the tape. Were they angry that
that got away considering how well they played in the
first half.

Speaker 10 (01:07:43):
I wouldn't say mad, you know, I think that no
one really knew what to expect because it was our
first time, like I just mentioned, playing a real game. Obviously,
we respected the competition the team that we were playing,
but there's no doubt about it. I think we learned
a lot of lessons. If you foul the other team
and you put them in the bonus, some of your

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fouls are self inflicted, undisciplined fouls, no different than in
football penalties.

Speaker 11 (01:08:11):
You know, it's just the game.

Speaker 10 (01:08:12):
Within the game, you start losing yardage or you get behind,
you know, first and fifteen and instead of first and ten.

Speaker 11 (01:08:18):
Basketball is very similar.

Speaker 10 (01:08:20):
You put the other team in the bonus, you get
your own players in foul trouble, right, you give them
those free points. A lot of times there's five seconds
left on the shot clock. You played great defense for
twenty five seconds and one of your guys reaches in.
It's those plays right there that have a way of
adding up against you. And in the second half, our

(01:08:42):
inability to get stops without fouling put us behind the
eight ball, and we were it was too big of
a gap for us to overcome. Second thing in the
do game is just turnovers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:08:53):
Some turnovers are a function of great defense and just
it's hard to play a forty minute game of zero.
But when you have nine turnovers from your center position
and you end up with sixteen, again, those are like
undisciplined fouls on offense. Those are shots you don't get
at the basket. And by the way, when you're playing
against a really good team, a lot of times turnovers

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lead to dunks and three point shots and fouls, right,
So that has nothing to do with your own defense.
So our turnovers and our undisciplined fouling was one of
the many lessons we learned from the Duke game. We
did a better job against Lafayette. I know Lafayette's not duke,
but taking care of the ball, playing single digit turnovers,

(01:09:33):
and we had less undisciplined fouls. Right, So I feel
like that's good feedback, that's something to grow and build
from and moving forward, that's going to be really important
to our team. You can't be a really tough minded,
very good defensive team and then you just foul unnecessarily.

Speaker 11 (01:09:51):
Those two things don't coincide.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Yeah, it's a tough deal. Sean Miller earlier mentioned how
Jordan Pope he moved him back in the stor lineup
and now he played some more point guard and things
of that nature, and he was asked, how does he
see poach role evolving and is he going to wind
up being the main point guard?

Speaker 10 (01:10:11):
No doubt Jordan will play a lion's share of the
minutes at the point guard position.

Speaker 11 (01:10:15):
I believe that that's his best position.

Speaker 10 (01:10:17):
If you look at his assist to turnover ratio even
a year ago, you know that's something that really stands
out as being an outstanding characteristic for him as a player.
Clearly he could play off the ball as well, but
I think that through our summer experience in this early
fall and a few games we've played, We've learned enough

(01:10:38):
to know that that's our best bet as a team,
and I also think that will bring out the best
in Jordan.

Speaker 11 (01:10:46):
You know. I think Sim Wilcher is another guy in
a similar way.

Speaker 10 (01:10:50):
That could play both on and off the ball. I
thought Sim had a good night against Lafayette. Coming from
Saint John's. It takes a little bit of time to
become comfortable and to get your footing, and you know,
he looked more sure of himself. It was great to
see him make three threes in the game. He's certainly
a capable shooter. But I look at those two guys

(01:11:11):
as the two that will play that position through forty
minutes now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Coach Miller has mentioned the desire to have a more
accelerated pace of play regularly throughout the forty minutes. So
the question for him was is that sustainable or does
that have to be saved for certain moments.

Speaker 10 (01:11:30):
No, I think pace has to be a constant. I'll
use Gonzaga as an example. If you really follow their program,
you know, at some point it just seems like in
their biggest wins in big games that they play, what
breaks the game open is just the constant push, the
constant pace.

Speaker 11 (01:11:48):
It's there throughout the game.

Speaker 10 (01:11:49):
You don't necessarily always see quick shots, but at some
point it just seems like that eight nothing run or
quick ten points that happens and what breaks you know,
hitting that rock analogy, right, you just keep hitting it,
you keep hitting it, you keep hitting it. All of
a sudden boom it breaks open. Well, the way that
works with paces from the start to the finish.

Speaker 11 (01:12:10):
You want to just constantly push the ball.

Speaker 10 (01:12:13):
And how many points you're going to score in the
first six seconds depends who you're playing against as well. Right,
you're not going to get great shots in the first
six seconds against Duke. I don't care who you are,
but at some point you have the opportunity to get
fouled or create that burst by constantly putting pressure on them.
And that's what we want to develop. We're not there yet,

(01:12:36):
but I think we're taking more steps every game and
each day we're together.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Cam Dene Heidie didn't play against Lafayette. Shoulder had been
banged up from the Duke game, and he was asked
how Heidi's shoulder is progressing.

Speaker 10 (01:12:51):
Cam, Heidi, we look at should be available for our game,
just to bang this shoulder up. Nothing significant. We just
wanted to be sure, make sure he's healthy, feeling good.
We anticipate him playing this week.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
A lot of curiosities with this basketball team with some
of the new faces, perhaps no bigger curiosity than that
of Declan Duru, who comes from England and Spain, had
played Real Madrid's academy there, but he's a freshman and
a guy that just kind of raw and hadn't seen

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that much because he'd been banged up as well, and
so the question was asked if Sean Miller about his
developmental progress and what he's seen.

Speaker 11 (01:13:35):
I've been really impressed with Declan.

Speaker 10 (01:13:37):
It's very difficult for a freshman in college basketball to
miss the summer.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:13:43):
In his case, I played for his national team and
we weren't able to get him here into the country
until the fall semester began. But his ceiling is high.
In twelve minutes of play, he had ten deflections. Just
so you guys know, if you get six deflections in
a game and you played thirty two minutes, that's outstanding.

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You know, that means you're impacting winning in a big way.
To be able to touch the ball, block a shot, get
a steal, get a recovery from a block shot six
times in a forty minute game is very good. He
had ten and twelve minutes, and I think that shows
his talent, size, long arms, and quickness. And my hope
is that Declan becomes one of the storylines of this

(01:14:29):
season off the bench where he can give us a
spark in depth and we can call on him throughout
the season. But Declan is also one of our youngest players,
so he's very young. You know, you guys can see
his birthday and compare it, but you know, for him
to be as young as he is, new to the country,
missing the summer, and just watching the progress he's made,

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it's very exciting to see because I think he has
a bright future.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Another one of the real young guys with Leuis Obiora,
who has not been able to play so far. He's
had a foot issue, but he's a big guy, seven footer,
and Sean Miller has asked for a recovery update on't
know we are.

Speaker 10 (01:15:07):
Yeah, So Lewis is on the tail end of a
stress fracture that he had on in his foot, so
he's missed I think around coming up on six weeks
five or six weeks, but he's progressing. He's The good
news is it happened early in the fall, so we
were able to get on top of it and he's
going to be able to return to practice in the

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court and we're looking forward to having him. We need everybody,
you know, we want our practice environment to be great
and highly competitive. And you know, Lewis is the biggest
player on our team. He's bigger, taller than Modest, so
to have him out there is a good thing for
both Lewis and us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
All Right, he was talking about Modest folk Titus. Obviously
we'll hear him talk about him in a moment. John
Clark is another one of those curiosity. He's a freshman
and was asked why he hasn't been able to get
completely into the mix of late.

Speaker 10 (01:15:59):
In terms of John Clark, we've had a meeting with
his family and John recently, and what we're trying to
do with John is to make sure that we make
good decisions here very early in his career, to make
sure that number one, that he develops to the most
he can, and number two, to not waste a year

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or any eligibility unnecessarily.

Speaker 11 (01:16:23):
So here early on.

Speaker 10 (01:16:24):
The reason he hasn't played is simply because there's a
chance that we potentially could red shirt him. And let
me just say this, red shirt him only because of
how much we believe in him. I really believe that
John Clark could be a terrific player here at Texas,
a starter and all conference player, and go on to

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do really great things. He's just right now behind two
more experienced players, Modest and Lesina. And in today's world
of college sports in basketball, it's tough to just burn
an entire year of eligibility when you could protect thirty
five games in a full year and by the way,

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improve and grow and learn. So we're working through that.
That decision hasn't completely been made yet. But we believe
in John. But that's why you haven't seen him in
games to this point.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Okay, he mentioned Madus Vocatitis and Lucina Treyori, who both
played some really solid minutes, especially Manus the other day
as well, but he played well against Duke Is as well,
and Sean Miller has asked how pleased he was to
see Vocatitis and Treyori and what they accomplished in the
first two ball games.

Speaker 11 (01:17:40):
That's the starting point for both.

Speaker 10 (01:17:42):
You know, I think everybody in here is aware, but
they've missed in essence three weeks leading into the Duke game.
And Losina's just with his recovery from his previous injury.
He was here all summer, but he wasn't able to
participate in contact. So you know, just put yourself in
both of their shoes.

Speaker 11 (01:18:01):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:18:01):
In the first game at Texas against Duke and Charlotte,
no previous experience, didn't play in either of our scrimmages,
so I thought they both showed a lot of good
things against Duke, but the nine turnovers really stood out.
I think Lesina every game he plays will get better
and better and work off the rust and understandably so.

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
But Matus did a good job. I mean a double double.

Speaker 10 (01:18:27):
We could have gotten them the ball a couple more
times against his own and then he has to learn,
you know, how to put himself in a better position.
But I think Madus has a very bright future. His
ability to run, catch, rebound score. There aren't a lot
of guys his size that have the skill set that
he has, so I think we're excited about his future.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
And then finally, one other thing about madus Fokatita. Since
he has played really, really well in the first two
ball games, how do you get him the ball?

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
More?

Speaker 10 (01:18:56):
Just two parts, one as a team and as a
coach to make sure we're responsible and do the best
job of putting him in a position. But also the
second part of that is him really understanding how to
do that and at times putting himself in a good position.
But the more he can catch it, the more we

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can hit him close to the basket, the more of
a factor he is, the more fouls the other team's
going to commit, you know, the more high percentage shots
we're going to get around the basket.

Speaker 11 (01:19:28):
And that's a big part of offense.

Speaker 10 (01:19:30):
So all of us learning him, him learning our system.
There's nothing more important to our improvement in November than
that part right there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
All right there. It is from as Sean Miller. Of course,
the game is tomorrow evening. We've already given away one
pair of tickets. We're given away another pair of tickets
for tomorrow nights. Came before the show is done up.
Next more from long worn football players and some other
college football notes when we continue on Sports Radio AM
thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
Another children every now and then.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Without in Yes, George, and I've kind of been in
that situation a couple of times with uh in the
Spring lady, but with my own sons, I had to
do that. You had to, you know, they maybe got

(01:20:26):
in trouble or gotten into a fight with somebody or
something like that, and you had to look at them
and hear their side of the story and then okay,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
You know, so I love that song and it always
makes a little dusty in here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a it's a really good one,
as as I enjoy, certainly all of of George Strait's
uh outstanding works. Okay, to hear some more from long
worn football players, I will go back to arch Panning again.
He was he asked the other day there was that

(01:21:01):
picture he had with Victor Wembin Yama Wenby. By the way,
he had another monster game last night, Spurs one. Again,
he was asked, what was that like, meeting Wemby.

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
It was good, it was cool. He's he's a tall
in person to say that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
He is under Statement of the Year for March Manning.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Yeah. He was also asked about, you know, having a
standing in the pocket with the understanding that he could
take a big hit and what would that be like
with that understanding as he tried to zero in on
his target.

Speaker 7 (01:21:31):
Yeah, coach Milly does a good job m fhsizing contact
courage in the pocket and uh we worked some contact
stuff can hit with pads by coach Beckton and coach Castro,
So just got to continue to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Yeah, okay, So he mentioned coach Miley A. J. Milwee
works with the quarterbacks, as obviously Sark does, but also
Michael Bamonti is another assistant coach on that and he
asked was asked about having coach Milwey up in the
booth and Bamonte down on the sidelines.

Speaker 6 (01:21:59):
Yeah, it's been good.

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
Mike's the real deal and Millway it's been good having
up in the box seeing it from a bird's eye view.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
So it's been cool.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Yeah, all right, So then he started to he was
asked about the whole thing with Georgia. First of all,
did he feel they were the gold standard in the
SEC right now?

Speaker 7 (01:22:18):
Yeah, they've had a lot of success the past few years,
and you know, they're a good team, they're well coached.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Earlier we heard Arch talk about how he went to
a game, a Georgia South Carolina game that, of course
was when he was taking an official visit. He was
being recruited to Georgia. And what's this whole thing like
now going back there.

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
Yeah, they're a good team. I was considering them until
the end. We're just focused on today, getting better today.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
All right. So now he's very grateful, He's mentioned this
from from the outset. He's very grateful to his offensive
line for everything to do. How grateful is he in
terms of spending time away from the football field with
those guys.

Speaker 6 (01:22:57):
Yeah, we'll get dinner together, hang out out of football.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
We kind of a.

Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
Cool group of guys that are all friends. And I'm
glad to have him protecting me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Yeah. He's been mentioned as just a really really good teammate,
a good guy, and his teammates really like him an
awful lot. All right. What has Texas proven as a
team through nine weeks to this point?

Speaker 7 (01:23:17):
We're going to try and get better week and stay
connected and keep stacking.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Against a team like Georgia. How important is it to
get the running game in gear?

Speaker 6 (01:23:27):
Very important.

Speaker 7 (01:23:27):
I think when you can run the ball, it opens
up other things and continue.

Speaker 6 (01:23:32):
To, you know, a certain dominance.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
There's always that thing about whether the game slows down
for a youngstery as he progresses through the season. Is
that the case with Arch a little bit?

Speaker 7 (01:23:42):
Anytime you are removing the ball on offense starts to
slow down. Just gotta continue that moving forward. George is
a really good defense, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
One guy who Manning is is pretty tight with is
the Alabama quarterback Tys Simpson. And he's asked if he'll
talk to Tys Simpson about having to go into Georgia
and play.

Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk. He's asked me some questions
about teams we've played. So it's good having in my corner.
And uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
It makes you wonder if let's say Texas beach Georgia
and they go on and then they beat Arkansas on
the BADA and M and they wind up in the
SEC championship game and then they and they're playing Alabama,
would he then contact gun or Stocked and well, anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Thoughts or what do you still contact Tyson?

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
So yeah, yeah, tell me about your team, you know,
and how do you maintain momentum coming off of that
bye week.

Speaker 7 (01:24:34):
I think everyone has a little sense of urgency. You know,
watching games from home, you feel like you're missing out.
So we got to have a good week of practice
and go play well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
And that good week of practice started with the Monday workout.

Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
It was good.

Speaker 7 (01:24:47):
I think we did kind of On Mondays, we have
the threes and fours go against each other and there's
a lot of juice during that period.

Speaker 6 (01:24:53):
It was fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Okay, all right, did he watch other games during the
course of the weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
Yeah, obviously, watch l Sabama, wash it Endo, that Oregon game,
and watch the NFL games yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
All Right. Everybody knows how tight he is with Michael
taff So is there any extra juice that is sensed
by tapping back on the field.

Speaker 6 (01:25:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:25:12):
I mean he's the leader of this team, and I think.

Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
He's going to bring a spark back and we're excited
to have him back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
All right. And then finally, was he able to take
anything away from the time that he was on the field.
Remember he went in when quinn Ewrs was pulled out
for a bit. Is there anything he can take away
from that?

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
Yeah, a little bit. I think I'm a way different
player from last year.

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
But yeah, I'll definitely been washing the tape, continue to
watch it and just try to get a better feel
for these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yeah, all right, so that's the arch manding and is
his take on everything? All right? Coming up, we're gonna
hear from Colin Simmons, hand from Michael Taff as we
continue here on this Tuesday afternoon on Sports Radio AM
thirteen under the zone of the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Wherever there is some chicks here, they got some chicks
traveling soldier Okay, Veterans day, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Absolutely, and again our salute to those who have served,
including my brother, a younger brother who was in Persian
Gulf wor Operation Desert Storm a little bit. He was
in the Air Force, and I always enjoyed the story teller.
He was stationed at RIOD at the time in Saudi
Iratia when the Iraqis launched the scud missiles for the

(01:26:32):
first time and the United States was countering with those
patriot missiles and away, and to hear my brother tell it,
he said, we weren't sure. We had a pretty good feeling,
but we weren't sure that those patriots were going to
work to track the scuds and knock them out the sky.
And all that other kind of stuff. And they'd never
been tried in that particular situation, so we weren't a

(01:26:54):
hundred percent sure. So they get the alarm during coming,
they fire out the patriots. They're like, hey, they work,
So that's good. It's good to know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
And the old what you don't know, you don't know,
what you don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, right, And so he served ten months over there.
He was a career Air Force guy, twenty two years
in the Air Force and served all over the world.
Enjoying his he's actually younger than me, a little bit
younger me, and enjoying his retirement on the east coast
of North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Well he deserves it. Thank you for thank you for
his service.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
And by the way, side note on Air Force I
noticed today I saw an x this morning. Air Forces
basketball game is not being streamed today because of the
government shutdown.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Oh my goodness, Well that's him for it'll be a
radio feed available, yeah, not to be good for good
for the radio guys for sure. And hopefully shutdown will
be coming soon. I guess what you know. Some in
the Senate agreed on the thing, and we'll see, we'll
see how the House does and listen. There's concern for

(01:28:08):
those of us with the long run radio network getting
to Georgia to the extent that we had our flights
changed yesterday, kind of trying to do a preemptive strike,
so to speak. We were originally supposed to go on
one airline and change aircraft, connect in Charlotte and then
hop over to Atlanta. And I've done that before two

(01:28:30):
or three times, but the concern was that, hey, maybe
you get hung up in Charlotte. Of course it's only
four hours away. I mean, if I had to drive it,
I could drive it from there, but you never know
getting hung up and trying to go back. So our
flights were changed yesterday to where we were able to
get on non stops from Austin to Atlanta. So at
least it's just a one leg deal and hopefully we

(01:28:52):
were on the ground in time on Friday, and then
I can check in with you on Friday afternoon during
the program, since Jake will be filling in for me
on Friday, So we'll look forward to that and we'll
hope for that also to let folks know our coverage,
Just to let you know the rest of the week,

(01:29:14):
there's long worn men's basketball tomorrow evening six point thirty
pregame Star Time seven o'clock tip Texas against Fairleigh Dickinson
University on Thursday, Long Worn Weekly with coach Sark. How
about this for a combo. Kyle Flood, co offensive coordinator
of the offensive line coach, will be with us, and
Derek Johnson, the college Football Hall of Famer, former Kansas

(01:29:37):
City chief standout, will be with us. That's tomorrow or
that's on Thursday. You'll hear of that program. We actually
record the show tomorrow, so it's gonna be it's gonna
be a little bit of a hustle we're going to
and then of course they're just across the street from
each other, Moody from where the football office is, so
I can zip over there in time and we'll get
the we'll get the basketball game in on Tomorrow night

(01:30:01):
after we record the show tomorrow late afternoon tomorrow over
on campus. Then the show wears on Thursday, and then
it re airs on Friday Saturday. Our pregame coverage we'll
begin at two thirty Saturday afternoon with the third and

(01:30:21):
Long Worn Podcast guys. Then at three point thirty it'll
be Cameron Parker and it'll be Mark Henry and in
for my cardball Harge will be lifetime longhorn In a
former employee of this radio station for several years, the
former All American Rod Davers. Oh nice, and they'll be

(01:30:43):
down where is it from a.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Bully where the south location and a bolden Acres Yeah,
bolden Acres slaughter and manchak okay, come say hi to
me and Antone as well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Yeah, because they'll be down there. You can ask Antone
about that difference between a cow bell and the wood
block thing, because what is it the Queens of the
Stone Age Little Sister with little Sister, they used that
wood block instead of the uh yeah, into knows and

(01:31:15):
he pointed out the difference to us on that and
that's what that's why that song cannot be considered when
we had our cow bell song contest. So anyway, they'll
they'll have that for you. Let's hear some work. Colin
Simmons asked what in his preparation when he's really going
well makes him difficult to stop.

Speaker 8 (01:31:32):
I want to start off with it being a guy
giving gift, you know, a guy start off right there.
And then second is just the confidence that I have
in my ability, and you know the confidence that I
have in guy himself. And you know, I just trust
myself and I trust my technique, I trust my coaches
and not trust the game plan.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
You know, this goes all the way back to Ice
watching him and calling UH State championship games he played,
and you could see the confidence and the ferocity with
which he played. So how about the confidence level going
into Athens? For his confidence and how he thinks he
can impact the game?

Speaker 8 (01:32:07):
We can only control we could control at the end
of the day. But I have the utmost confidence in
me and my teammates, you know. So you know, we
go out there with our heads on fire, then we're
gonna go out there with our heads on fire. So
you know, as long as we as long as we
play as a team and we stick together, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Gonna be good. You know, early in the season when
Simmons was out of the blocks a little slower than
he had planned, and he was also penalized a little
more than he had planned. So how does he play
within himself, be the aggressive guy that he is, and
yet stay away from having a flag thro him?

Speaker 8 (01:32:39):
Man, this is this is something I'd be I'd be
telling my coaches like I know when I'm finna get
a flag, Like I know when I'm finna get a flag,
They're not gonna flag me for just a little bit
of you know, you know, talking here and there, like
I'm not putting my hands on nobody or nothing like that. Like,
just let me go out there and play my game.
Let us go out there and play our game. You know,
you know it's gonna a list talk here and there.

(01:33:01):
That's football. That's football, you know. So you know, as
long as we know like to keep things between the
whistles and between the lines and stuff and stuff like that,
then we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
He was talking about Ethan Burke earlier, and we'll hear
from Burke tomorrow about how well he is playing, and
he says, some of it's got to be in the music.
And he talks about Ethan Burke's music, what he's listening
to and what everybody is then you might say exposed to.

Speaker 8 (01:33:31):
I don't even know how to describe the music that
he what's the word enthusiasm like enthusiastic, I guess, you know,
like you just bounce to get the bobby of your head,
bounce to get to dancing and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
So I mean, you know he got some he got
some great music, okay, all right? And that rock maybe,
And how would he describe Art Manning? Great?

Speaker 8 (01:33:52):
You know, I see a lot of potential in him.
I see a man. I see a person on and
off the field. You know, somebody who who who who
goes to things, and somebody who who's strong at the
end of the day. And shoot, that's my brother. That's
my brother. So you know I got his back, he
got my back. I got the best interest in him.
He has the best interest in me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
All right. On to Michael Taff, who's asked about the
toughest part of sitting out for the risk of re injury,
even though the thumb felt better.

Speaker 6 (01:34:22):
Yeah, it was tough.

Speaker 9 (01:34:23):
I've never been put in that situation, just mentally in
my mind knowing that, you know, you can't go right
now because you know, maybe you know, we might need
you next game or the next game in the next game.
So it was tough mentally, just knowing that if it
was up to my pain tolerance, I'd go. But you

(01:34:43):
have to make the smartest decision and not an emotional decision.
And I know sometimes I make emotional decisions on the
football field, just because I love this sport, of love
this university.

Speaker 6 (01:34:53):
Uh So that was probably tough. The toughest thing was mentally.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
All right. So you know that happened in a game
of Kentucky had another road game in Mississippi state. Of course,
they had the neutral side game against Oklahoma, but all
of that in a road October where they didn't play
a home game. So what do you learn during all
these road games that he plans to pack with him
to take to Athens, Georgia.

Speaker 9 (01:35:13):
Yeah, I think what we learned is is that we're
dangerous in all assets.

Speaker 6 (01:35:18):
You know, the beginning of the.

Speaker 9 (01:35:19):
Year, you know, we were truth be told, we were
relying on the defense, and you know, and so it
was all low scoring games. Now we're relying on special
teams one game and the next game we're relying on
the offense. The next game, were relying on the defense,
and so and then one game for you know, i'd
say three quarters, all three phases connected. So I would

(01:35:41):
just say we can win in all different ways and
shape some forms, and that makes it really scary football team,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
So I bought his thoughts on this matchup with Georgia.

Speaker 6 (01:35:49):
Yeah, it's gonna be really fun.

Speaker 9 (01:35:52):
Obviously, defensively, we go against another Heisman contender. You know,
we did that last against Vanderbilt, and now we're doing
it again, and so I'm just worried about preparing like
a champion. You know, I think we match up really
well if if we play really well, And the way
to play really well is you focus on right now
and you attack every practice like it's a game day reup.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Did every one of those road games in that October
Gauntlet help change the team mentality?

Speaker 11 (01:36:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:36:22):
I mean those games were tough being on the road.
You know, you don't get to be in front of
d k R. And so it was really fun to
get really close with everybody and get into some tight hotels.
So it was a lot of fun. It taught us
a lot about who we are as a team and
what our culture is. And we're going to keep relying

(01:36:42):
on our culture, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
He was also asked about the way that Georgia recruits,
you know, physically, or that you just coach him up
that way.

Speaker 6 (01:36:49):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:36:50):
I think, you know, I kind of just look at
the team that I've seen on tape this year, I
don't look at last year. I don't look at the
years before. I look at the year and who they got.
They got number fourteen at quarterback, they got number five,
number one, number eighty six at receiver, they got number four,
seven to ten at tight end, and then obviously they

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got number three, number thirty two, number thirty three at
running back.

Speaker 6 (01:37:14):
So and obviously some more guys.

Speaker 9 (01:37:15):
But that's all I'm folks about, and I think they
look good on tape.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
All right, Hiah, there we go. That's from Michael Taff.
We'll be back to wrap up today's program here on
thirteen under the Zone.

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