October 28, 2025 • 20 mins
Does Texas Tech have to win the Big 12 to earn a CFP berth? What went wrong for SMU in its loss to Wake Forest? Greg Tepper, the editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football, previews a spread-out slate for Texas CFB teams this weekend and outlines some late-season themes in HSFB.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now looking mob text.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here on a Tuesday afternoon on sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone, I'll ask the producer Jay Kerman, you
know where Lukenbach is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I've never been Fredericksburg.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Uh, hey, you're kind of in the general vicinity, go
out west of it.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, I was doing that. Was that was a guess,
Well you're not.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's not that far from Frederick's. Okay, good, that's a
pretty good guess.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I kind of like between Fredericksberg and uh, let's see, Yeah,
maybe Bernie.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I guess, uh, you know that that kind of thing.
It's it's all out there, uh. Our Our next guest,
Native Texan Greg Tepper, editor in chief of Dave Campbells
Texas Football Magazine.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Why do I get the feeling you've been through Lucnbach before.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Yeah, I've driven through.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I've seen it.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
It's uh, it's it's a pilgrimage that I think you're
you're required to take, uh to to pastures Texas's and
ship test.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yes, that's that's.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
One between there between green all those places that have
legendary dance holes.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
That feeling, and that is one of the things they
don't they don't necessarily tell you growing up is that
Texas is going like like, getting the full Texas experience
is going to require some boot scooting, is going to
require some honkey talking.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It's going to.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Require you to visit some dance halls, uh, scattered across
the state. That's that's a key, key part of our
culture around here.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hey, I've been to the one in Coupeland.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's Copeland, Oh, son of a Gun, which isn't around anymore,
the Copeland dance you went to Copeland?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was there.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was there a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I saw Miking the moon Pie is now known as Silverada.
But we'll leave that story further.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Alright, very good, all right, So there's a little more
textan to you in there. He also Jake also owes
it to himself. Does he not tip to get to
Mary's Cafe and Strawn and have a tigger ride steak?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Yes, yes, you absolutely there's there's at some point wheneber
I find enough time, I'm gonna to get together with
the Big Camel's crew, just put together a Texan list
of like, here are the things you need to do.
Because that's the fun thing about covering, especially high school football,
is that you also get all these other lessons of
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like culinary and dancing and things like that, and so
those are the types of things. But at some point
we're gonna come together and put together an actual list,
and yeah, Mary's and Strawn is certainly on that list.
Don't order the large your eyes are bigger than your stomach.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I promise that large is about as big as that board.
Oh really, Jake, it's the largest take us take you'll
ever see. Uh, and I have trouble get through a
small and and my son, with whose eyes was bigger
than his stomach, ordered the medium and he couldn't finish
it on the media.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
See you also get me strained down on the text
and Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, we can.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Get you.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Effort.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Okay, we're in this together. We're all like, we're all
going to get in there together.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
That's the nope.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, all right, So let's uh let me start with
college and uh, you know, obviously it was another survival
test for Texas, so they uh you know, lived to
play another day in terms of their sec hopes.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And we'll see how they do against Vanderbilt this week.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But a lot of people pressing about the Aggie still
are eight and oh, uh, first time they've been eight
and oh in a long time. And the final straw
on the Brian Kelly experiment that failed in Baton rouged
l s U.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Yeah, I mean, look, they they beat him so bad,
they ran the coach out. I mean, that's that's awfully impressive.
And it was like, I mean, that's that's that's partial joking.
But at the same time it was thorough. I mean
there was really.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
No even when that game was close, it never.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Felt like LSU was going to up and get the aggies,
which is something that I think has been really important
for this Agis program to just get over to its
kind of uh, you know, vanguish a lot of the
ghosts that have the deviled them over the course of
their sectanions. You know, the valley has been a problem
spot for them. It's been a place where they have
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not had a ton of success and and they've proven
that this year is different and they're doing it. Really
what's funny is that they're doing it in kind of
a different lake, and then they're doing it with a
highest line offense. You know, normally you hear that the
you know X, the CC be able to come in
here and play some defense, and sure enough they've got
some some defenders or defensive Lineupel played particularly well and involving,
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but the playing and simple. The name of the game
right now is that Marcel Reed has been spectacular and
their receiver corps maybe it was dangerous in the sec
Casey Conceptsion I think has been arguably the best receiver
in America this year. Uh, And they're certainly dangerous. And
so for the agings, you know, it's it's all some
China daffodils right now. And the thing in like Craven
Road the Texas Football dot Commas week that uh, that
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went over LSU like they like they locked in essentially
a playoff spot. They a college a little plaoff. I mean,
it is hard to see barring a completely unforeseen laps
that would probably take a loss of Samford at home.
It is hard to see A and M missing the
college football playoffs at this point that they've done enough.
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They would have to take some sort of, you know,
some sort of complete collapse not to be in the
field of twelve. They've looked that good and they've proven
that much. And right now, two real signature wins win
on the road one at Notre Dame and now one
at LSU.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
The Texas Tech you have in number two in your
power pole, and theirs was thrown into a little bit
of doubt because of the loss of Arizona State, but
they bounced back with the blowout of Oklahoma State. Other
than the BYU game on November eight, and that's a
big one. Do you see them getting challenge playing in Manhattan?
Kansas State's coind of been up and down. I can't
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see them having any trouble with UCF at home or
West Virginia on the road.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I think that the way that this Tech team is built,
that that's going to be They're going to be the
favorite and the rest of their games because they've built
defense first. You know, the defense has been the real
star of the show. I think Jacob Rodriguez, their linebacker,
has been one of the best players in the Big twelve.
Play in simple and he has been terrific.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You Know.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
The offense obviously came to life last week against Oklahoma State,
although everybody's offense has come to life against Oklahoma State,
They've they've been just exceptional playing Temple and so they
are looking like a team to beat in the Big
Twelve still even with that one lasson on the run
at Arizona State.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Now, I will say that contrary.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
To what we were talking about with A and M,
where A and M feels like they're right now a
lock to the College Football Playoff barring some extreme collapse
for Texas Tech, I do think, and Mike Craven wrote
about this on Texas Football dot Com just today that
for Texas Tech, just looking at the way that things
are shaking out, it does feel like they're going to
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have to win the Big Twelve to get into college
football playoffs. Right now, it does not appear that that
the College Football Playoff is going to look like it's
going to include.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
More than one Big Twelve team.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Maybe I'm wrong in those first College Football Playoff rankings
cannot come out quite yet, but I do think when
you take a look at it, the way the singer.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Are brewing, and the way that you know the Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Is looking where they're going to get multiple teams, and
the SEC is.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Now going to get multiple teams, and you know this
is going to be a for the Big Twelve.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
You can't count on the benefit of the doubt on
getting a let's say Big Twelve runner up in the
field of twelve, and so I think if you're a
Texas Tech, you got to say, we got to win
the car we gotta win the.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Conference to get in the playoffs. Playing simple and I was.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Always a goal, but I think that now it's become
more crystallized. There was a possive leave that let's say
they were twelve to going into the Big twelve title
game and they were to lose the Big twelve title
game and finish twelve and one. I think there is
a possibility that that team will get that, that Texas
Tech team will get in, but that tex of Tech
team can't exist anymore with the lost Arizona State. I
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think they're going to have to run the table the
rest of the way to guarantee themselves the spot in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Interesting, okay, all right, and then.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You have one G six team ahead of two Power Force.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
The G six is North Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
They're seven and one, and what a huge game they
have with Navy this Saturday. You have them ahead of
SMU and Baylor. Both of them just experienced losses over
the weekend. That was that was kind of a really
unsightly defeat for SMU losing at Wake Forest, wasn't it?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah? It was, and it snapped.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
It was the first ACC conference loss, by the way,
and then at least a regular season conference loss, and
and that is disappointing because the offense is totally know
showed against Wake Forest. You know, that was a winnable
game that was there for the taking if the offense
could have just been averaged. But they just couldn't find
any intensively on the road. And that's disappointing for for them. Now,
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you know, not no chances that we'll make into the
ACC title game obviously dwindle a little bit in a
return trip to the ACC or rather a return trip
onto the playoff of you know, barring winning that that
ACC or at least in that large is probably out
the window as well with their multiple losses. And so
I think that you know, for SMU, that was disappointing.
But you mentioned North Texas. You know, you're right, it's
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a huge game this week against them, easy and an
opportunity to just getting back on the gleage front as
far as these big competitive conference games and take down
in that Navy team that does feel like they're built
to beat. You know, North Texas go on, you know,
the North Texas defense and has struggled against the run.
And you know, maybe what's the one thing they do
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well and they sit on the football and they just limit.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
The number of possessions that you get. The more you can.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Keep drew the ball out of drew the mess to
Maker's hands, the better. He's the hottest passer in the
nation right now for over six hundred yards last week.
I think that if you are you know, Texas or
North Texas, you have to find a way to get
a couple of stuffs and Navy played from behind. If
they can do that, and then then yeah, I think
North Texas can get a real signature winning countess going yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And uh, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I've never seen an athletic director do this before, but
there's the ad openly campaigning for ESPN College Game Day
to be in Denton this week. They ended up not
choosing it to go on to Salt Lake for Utah
and Cincinnati, and and that's a reasonable choice as well.
But I certainly understand the the purpose behind that, the
appeal to try to get them to come to Denton.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean that's That's That's the thing
is that you know right now, the North Texas brand
is very strong. You know, obviously the football team's playing well,
and they're playing exciting football. And it's not necessarily a
huge week of of signature games across the nation. You know,
some of the games that I think a lot of
the network for banking on, most specifically Ohio State and
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Penn State, well that's really fizzled. Uh you know, Penn
States went out coach, and so that I think is
is for North Texas an opportunity to kind of beat
their just say hey, why a come to Denton, come for.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
A big game, you know, and.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
And two teams that you don't often spotlight there with
that with Navy North, that's just obviously they pass on it.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But it's going to be it's gonna be a really.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Interesting test, I think for North Texas and an opportunity
still to take to take kind of center stage. One
of the other things that's very strange about this week
is that it's an old slate of games more or less,
but I believe there's five midweek games, Like there's two
games tonight. I think Texas State and youtub both play
and not against each other.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's correct.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
It's a it's a strange schedule this week across the
state of Texas. UH that that has has left it
leaving UH it's a less of this weekend kind of
or especially the Saturday kind of wanting as far as
big games prompton of those state.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know what changed all of that, I think to
have maction when the Mid American Conference started playing Tuesdays
and Wednesdays. I think the other G six leagues looked
at it and said, here's a way to get national exposure.
And so the Sunbell has leaned into it heavily. Obviously
Conference USA has through there deal with UH with CBS,
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So I mean it's it's a way to get some
ransom exposure I suppose for some of these schools of
nothing else.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Yeah, I'd love to see, you know, and obviously we
don't know what ratings mean anymore because the ecosystem is
so fractured in the media, but I will say I'd
be interested to see what the ratings of these midweek
games are because you know, I know that the MAC
and certainly the MAC is in my opinion, the weakest conference,
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and you know, the MACRO, the Conference USA is the
weakest conference and certainly the Maine being highly highly regional.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
But I would love to see what those ratings.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Are for these midweek games, you know, compared to maybe
like a Saturday game where you're buried against you know,
Texas playing on CBS or a Fox or something like that.
I'd be really interested to seeing how well these midweek
games do, because obviously the whole point is to get
more eyeballs on it than you would on a crowd
at Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
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plus live viewing of these high school games which are
headed down the home stretch. What is on your mind,
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not necessarily a specific game, but what are the themes
that are going through your mind right now heading down
the stretch of the regular season in the final two
to three weeks.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
So I'll give you I'll give you an on field
and I'll give you an off field. The on field
is obviously that it's crunched shine now and for a
number of teams, the playoffs start this week and they
are facing win or go home. Gainst the way you
think about it, Craig, there are a good number of
teams that have a week eleven open date, which means
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that for a number of teams across the state, this
is it like they're blowing up basketball on Monday. I mean,
it's a football season ends for a number of teams
across the state this weekend, and so I'll the urgency,
the sense of urgency is kind of increasing across the
state of Texas.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I think that's one of the things that you're.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Going to be keeping a line on, you know, more aggressive.
Now is the time where we start paying attention to tiebreakers.
I know there is a game down there Saturday night.
I believe it's Waller and cy Rancher or something like that,
and Waller needs to win that game by more than
eleven because of the cybreaker situations. So it's getting it's
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getting down to the wire, down to the nitty gritty
as far as that is on the field, off the field,
this is a really for real Texas high school football
sickos like myself and you. I know, this is a
really really compelling week because it is Snapshot Week, my friend.
For those who don't know UIL's buy any realignment where
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they take the teams or take the school, get your
enrollment and then get ready to start dividing you up.
Realignment comes in early February. But Snapshot Day, which is today,
when you're supposed to turning, you're just a snapshot of
your enrollment, what your enrollment is.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And that's the number you're used you used.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
To get alignment.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
That is this week, that is Friday, and so we
are going to be tracking those numbers and tracking teams
that may be moving up, teams that may be moving down.
And it's always an interesting look not only for what
it means for Texas high school football, but it's also
just an interesting look at the way that demographics are
shifting across the state of Texas. You know, when new
schools opening up all over the state and things like that.
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That is one thing we are definitely keeping an all
on off the field, because you want to talk about
something that's going to impact every single team in Texas.
Snapshot Day is a massive day for those who.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Know on it you know, people'll know me like yourself,
know that I am not am not a conspiracy theorist
that said, I've wondered from time to time with a
publication of snapshot Day, if it wasn't some sort of
encourage by certain uh shall we say, uh, officials within
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a school district or a school to kind of come
up with a fair day or an open day.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
There's something like that where they.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Don't have as many coming in to kind of limit
the enrollment or something like that. I've often kind of
wondered if that happens in some places.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Look there, I am.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
I am positive that there are some squirrely things that
go on. I will also say.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
That there is a pretty robust kind of enforcement.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Mechanism within the ui L that if you get if
you get caught, uh, if you get caught budget your
enrollment number, they've got some hammers they can drop on you.
That happened recently, Yeah, say that there were some enrollment
numbers that got fuzzy and and a team got got
absolutely a program got hammered by them.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
And so that is one thing to keep to keep
an eye on. As far as you know, the these.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Enrollment numbers as they flew in. You can try, certainly,
but if.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
You get caught, there are punitive measures that the UIL
can take that can that I think are are make
it relatively prohibitive for you to try anything any funny
business when you're enrollment number.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I agree, and I do remember when that happened
in that program. All right, meanest thing we do to
each other, give give you three games. You tell me
which matchup that you would show up at. You can
only be at one of these. So your choices, should
you choose to accept them, are in six A you
got a seven and one Galena Park North Shore at
a seven and one ce King in five eight Division
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one keeping it down in the Greater Houston area, you
got an eight to no Angleton at a seven and
one Laporte, and then drop it all the way down
to the smallest vision of eleven man football to a
D two. From these parts, how about undefeated Grainger, those
Lions playing at seven and one Burton this week?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What is your choice, mister Tepper?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
So that Granger Burton game is fascinating.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Especially after last week where.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Burton got upset by Iola on a last second field
goal with some uh shit Henery. There was a late
penalty that gave them one more chance.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It was a it was.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
A wild finish that Iola was able to knock off
previously unbeaten Burton. I am absolutely fascinated by the Angleton
and Laport game because there's massive implications there. There's injury
concerns for Angleton and this is really our first real
test getting to see them, uh, you know, up against
a very stout Laport team in their beautiful new stadium
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down there in the Port. But my answer is going
to be that that District twenty three six eight title
game between north Shore and.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Ce King is anything because this is you know, this
is a bit of a neighborhood rivalry.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
They're both from the east side of Houston and this
is the opportunity for ce King. You know, we hear
Dave Campbell's sexus football a lot from fair Tousa.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know, we talked about twenty three sixty talking about
north Shore in a task.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
See the Summer Creek, but you never talked about ce King.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
What about us? What about us?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Well, they have earned the right to be talked about
in those big terms. Seven to one.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
They've looked fantastic. Here is your opportunity to take the thrown.
Here's your opportunity to get everyone in Houston talking about
and for North Shore, a team that lost in Week one,
you remember, and there.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Were huge concerns.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
All they've done is ring off seven in a row
and look absolutely spectacular in doing it. This can be
a return to order for them, or it can be
kind of a changing of the guard. In twenty three
six a, it is a fascinating ball game there on
the east side of Houston, and I'm going to be
I'm gonna be paying the clost close attention to what
goes on there.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
In twenty three six.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Seconds, he's Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine, and go to Texas Football dot com for
the subscription information on that tip. Appreciate it as always
and look forward to the next visit.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I'm looking forward to my friend Tickeare all right?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's Greg Tepper, all right?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Coming up next, we'll hear some longmarn football conversation and
get a couple of things when we continue on Sports
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Now looking mob text.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here on a Tuesday afternoon on sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone, I'll ask the producer Jay Kerman, you
know where Lukenbach is.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I've never been Fredericksburg.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Uh, hey, you're kind of in the general vicinity, go
out west of it.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, I was doing that. Was that was a guess,
Well you're not.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's not that far from Frederick's. Okay, good, that's a
pretty good guess.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I kind of like between Fredericksberg and uh, let's see, Yeah,
maybe Bernie.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I guess, uh, you know that that kind of thing.
It's it's all out there, uh. Our Our next guest,
Native Texan Greg Tepper, editor in chief of Dave Campbells
Texas Football Magazine.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Why do I get the feeling you've been through Lucnbach before.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Yeah, I've driven through.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I've seen it.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
It's uh, it's it's a pilgrimage that I think you're
you're required to take, uh to to pastures Texas's and
ship test.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yes, that's that's.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
One between there between green all those places that have
legendary dance holes.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
That feeling, and that is one of the things they
don't they don't necessarily tell you growing up is that
Texas is going like like, getting the full Texas experience
is going to require some boot scooting, is going to
require some honkey talking.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It's going to.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Require you to visit some dance halls, uh, scattered across
the state. That's that's a key, key part of our
culture around here.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hey, I've been to the one in Coupeland.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's Copeland, Oh, son of a Gun, which isn't around anymore,
the Copeland dance you went to Copeland?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was there.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I was there a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I saw Miking the moon Pie is now known as Silverada.
But we'll leave that story further.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Alright, very good, all right, So there's a little more
textan to you in there. He also Jake also owes
it to himself. Does he not tip to get to
Mary's Cafe and Strawn and have a tigger ride steak?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Yes, yes, you absolutely there's there's at some point wheneber
I find enough time, I'm gonna to get together with
the Big Camel's crew, just put together a Texan list
of like, here are the things you need to do.
Because that's the fun thing about covering, especially high school football,
is that you also get all these other lessons of
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like culinary and dancing and things like that, and so
those are the types of things. But at some point
we're gonna come together and put together an actual list,
and yeah, Mary's and Strawn is certainly on that list.
Don't order the large your eyes are bigger than your stomach.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I promise that large is about as big as that board.
Oh really, Jake, it's the largest take us take you'll
ever see. Uh, and I have trouble get through a
small and and my son, with whose eyes was bigger
than his stomach, ordered the medium and he couldn't finish
it on the media.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
See you also get me strained down on the text
and Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, we can.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Get you.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Effort.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Okay, we're in this together. We're all like, we're all
going to get in there together.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
That's the nope.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, all right, So let's uh let me start with
college and uh, you know, obviously it was another survival
test for Texas, so they uh you know, lived to
play another day in terms of their sec hopes.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And we'll see how they do against Vanderbilt this week.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But a lot of people pressing about the Aggie still
are eight and oh, uh, first time they've been eight
and oh in a long time. And the final straw
on the Brian Kelly experiment that failed in Baton rouged
l s U.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Yeah, I mean, look, they they beat him so bad,
they ran the coach out. I mean, that's that's awfully impressive.
And it was like, I mean, that's that's that's partial joking.
But at the same time it was thorough. I mean
there was really.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
No even when that game was close, it never.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Felt like LSU was going to up and get the aggies,
which is something that I think has been really important
for this Agis program to just get over to its
kind of uh, you know, vanguish a lot of the
ghosts that have the deviled them over the course of
their sectanions. You know, the valley has been a problem
spot for them. It's been a place where they have
(04:03):
not had a ton of success and and they've proven
that this year is different and they're doing it. Really
what's funny is that they're doing it in kind of
a different lake, and then they're doing it with a
highest line offense. You know, normally you hear that the
you know X, the CC be able to come in
here and play some defense, and sure enough they've got
some some defenders or defensive Lineupel played particularly well and involving,
(04:26):
but the playing and simple. The name of the game
right now is that Marcel Reed has been spectacular and
their receiver corps maybe it was dangerous in the sec
Casey Conceptsion I think has been arguably the best receiver
in America this year. Uh, And they're certainly dangerous. And
so for the agings, you know, it's it's all some
China daffodils right now. And the thing in like Craven
Road the Texas Football dot Commas week that uh, that
(04:49):
went over LSU like they like they locked in essentially
a playoff spot. They a college a little plaoff. I mean,
it is hard to see barring a completely unforeseen laps
that would probably take a loss of Samford at home.
It is hard to see A and M missing the
college football playoffs at this point that they've done enough.
(05:10):
They would have to take some sort of, you know,
some sort of complete collapse not to be in the
field of twelve. They've looked that good and they've proven
that much. And right now, two real signature wins win
on the road one at Notre Dame and now one
at LSU.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
The Texas Tech you have in number two in your
power pole, and theirs was thrown into a little bit
of doubt because of the loss of Arizona State, but
they bounced back with the blowout of Oklahoma State. Other
than the BYU game on November eight, and that's a
big one. Do you see them getting challenge playing in Manhattan?
Kansas State's coind of been up and down. I can't
(05:48):
see them having any trouble with UCF at home or
West Virginia on the road.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I think that the way that this Tech team is built,
that that's going to be They're going to be the
favorite and the rest of their games because they've built
defense first. You know, the defense has been the real
star of the show. I think Jacob Rodriguez, their linebacker,
has been one of the best players in the Big twelve.
Play in simple and he has been terrific.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You Know.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
The offense obviously came to life last week against Oklahoma State,
although everybody's offense has come to life against Oklahoma State,
They've they've been just exceptional playing Temple and so they
are looking like a team to beat in the Big
Twelve still even with that one lasson on the run
at Arizona State.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Now, I will say that contrary.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
To what we were talking about with A and M,
where A and M feels like they're right now a
lock to the College Football Playoff barring some extreme collapse
for Texas Tech, I do think, and Mike Craven wrote
about this on Texas Football dot Com just today that
for Texas Tech, just looking at the way that things
are shaking out, it does feel like they're going to
(06:51):
have to win the Big Twelve to get into college
football playoffs. Right now, it does not appear that that
the College Football Playoff is going to look like it's
going to include.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
More than one Big Twelve team.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Maybe I'm wrong in those first College Football Playoff rankings
cannot come out quite yet, but I do think when
you take a look at it, the way the singer.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Are brewing, and the way that you know the Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Is looking where they're going to get multiple teams, and
the SEC is.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Now going to get multiple teams, and you know this
is going to be a for the Big Twelve.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
You can't count on the benefit of the doubt on
getting a let's say Big Twelve runner up in the
field of twelve, and so I think if you're a
Texas Tech, you got to say, we got to win
the car we gotta win the.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Conference to get in the playoffs. Playing simple and I was.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Always a goal, but I think that now it's become
more crystallized. There was a possive leave that let's say
they were twelve to going into the Big twelve title
game and they were to lose the Big twelve title
game and finish twelve and one. I think there is
a possibility that that team will get that, that Texas
Tech team will get in, but that tex of Tech
team can't exist anymore with the lost Arizona State. I
(07:54):
think they're going to have to run the table the
rest of the way to guarantee themselves the spot in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Interesting, okay, all right, and then.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You have one G six team ahead of two Power Force.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
The G six is North Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
They're seven and one, and what a huge game they
have with Navy this Saturday. You have them ahead of
SMU and Baylor. Both of them just experienced losses over
the weekend. That was that was kind of a really
unsightly defeat for SMU losing at Wake Forest, wasn't it?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah? It was, and it snapped.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
It was the first ACC conference loss, by the way,
and then at least a regular season conference loss, and
and that is disappointing because the offense is totally know
showed against Wake Forest. You know, that was a winnable
game that was there for the taking if the offense
could have just been averaged. But they just couldn't find
any intensively on the road. And that's disappointing for for them. Now,
(08:50):
you know, not no chances that we'll make into the
ACC title game obviously dwindle a little bit in a
return trip to the ACC or rather a return trip
onto the playoff of you know, barring winning that that
ACC or at least in that large is probably out
the window as well with their multiple losses. And so
I think that you know, for SMU, that was disappointing.
But you mentioned North Texas. You know, you're right, it's
(09:12):
a huge game this week against them, easy and an
opportunity to just getting back on the gleage front as
far as these big competitive conference games and take down
in that Navy team that does feel like they're built
to beat. You know, North Texas go on, you know,
the North Texas defense and has struggled against the run.
And you know, maybe what's the one thing they do
(09:33):
well and they sit on the football and they just limit.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
The number of possessions that you get. The more you can.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Keep drew the ball out of drew the mess to
Maker's hands, the better. He's the hottest passer in the
nation right now for over six hundred yards last week.
I think that if you are you know, Texas or
North Texas, you have to find a way to get
a couple of stuffs and Navy played from behind. If
they can do that, and then then yeah, I think
North Texas can get a real signature winning countess going yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And uh, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I've never seen an athletic director do this before, but
there's the ad openly campaigning for ESPN College Game Day
to be in Denton this week. They ended up not
choosing it to go on to Salt Lake for Utah
and Cincinnati, and and that's a reasonable choice as well.
But I certainly understand the the purpose behind that, the
appeal to try to get them to come to Denton.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean that's That's That's the thing
is that you know right now, the North Texas brand
is very strong. You know, obviously the football team's playing well,
and they're playing exciting football. And it's not necessarily a
huge week of of signature games across the nation. You know,
some of the games that I think a lot of
the network for banking on, most specifically Ohio State and
(10:43):
Penn State, well that's really fizzled. Uh you know, Penn
States went out coach, and so that I think is
is for North Texas an opportunity to kind of beat
their just say hey, why a come to Denton, come for.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
A big game, you know, and.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
And two teams that you don't often spotlight there with
that with Navy North, that's just obviously they pass on it.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But it's going to be it's gonna be a really.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Interesting test, I think for North Texas and an opportunity
still to take to take kind of center stage. One
of the other things that's very strange about this week
is that it's an old slate of games more or less,
but I believe there's five midweek games, Like there's two
games tonight. I think Texas State and youtub both play
and not against each other.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's correct.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
It's a it's a strange schedule this week across the
state of Texas. UH that that has has left it
leaving UH it's a less of this weekend kind of
or especially the Saturday kind of wanting as far as
big games prompton of those state.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know what changed all of that, I think to
have maction when the Mid American Conference started playing Tuesdays
and Wednesdays. I think the other G six leagues looked
at it and said, here's a way to get national exposure.
And so the Sunbell has leaned into it heavily. Obviously
Conference USA has through there deal with UH with CBS,
(11:58):
So I mean it's it's a way to get some
ransom exposure I suppose for some of these schools of
nothing else.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Yeah, I'd love to see, you know, and obviously we
don't know what ratings mean anymore because the ecosystem is
so fractured in the media, but I will say I'd
be interested to see what the ratings of these midweek
games are because you know, I know that the MAC
and certainly the MAC is in my opinion, the weakest conference,
(12:25):
and you know, the MACRO, the Conference USA is the
weakest conference and certainly the Maine being highly highly regional.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
But I would love to see what those ratings.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Are for these midweek games, you know, compared to maybe
like a Saturday game where you're buried against you know,
Texas playing on CBS or a Fox or something like that.
I'd be really interested to seeing how well these midweek
games do, because obviously the whole point is to get
more eyeballs on it than you would on a crowd
at Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No doubt about talking football and the Lone Star State
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Com of all kinds of a great offerings and things,
plus live viewing of these high school games which are
headed down the home stretch. What is on your mind,
(13:16):
not necessarily a specific game, but what are the themes
that are going through your mind right now heading down
the stretch of the regular season in the final two
to three weeks.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
So I'll give you I'll give you an on field
and I'll give you an off field. The on field
is obviously that it's crunched shine now and for a
number of teams, the playoffs start this week and they
are facing win or go home. Gainst the way you
think about it, Craig, there are a good number of
teams that have a week eleven open date, which means
(13:48):
that for a number of teams across the state, this
is it like they're blowing up basketball on Monday. I mean,
it's a football season ends for a number of teams
across the state this weekend, and so I'll the urgency,
the sense of urgency is kind of increasing across the
state of Texas.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I think that's one of the things that you're.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Going to be keeping a line on, you know, more aggressive.
Now is the time where we start paying attention to tiebreakers.
I know there is a game down there Saturday night.
I believe it's Waller and cy Rancher or something like that,
and Waller needs to win that game by more than
eleven because of the cybreaker situations. So it's getting it's
(14:27):
getting down to the wire, down to the nitty gritty
as far as that is on the field, off the field,
this is a really for real Texas high school football
sickos like myself and you. I know, this is a
really really compelling week because it is Snapshot Week, my friend.
For those who don't know UIL's buy any realignment where
(14:51):
they take the teams or take the school, get your
enrollment and then get ready to start dividing you up.
Realignment comes in early February. But Snapshot Day, which is today,
when you're supposed to turning, you're just a snapshot of
your enrollment, what your enrollment is.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And that's the number you're used you used.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
To get alignment.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
That is this week, that is Friday, and so we
are going to be tracking those numbers and tracking teams
that may be moving up, teams that may be moving down.
And it's always an interesting look not only for what
it means for Texas high school football, but it's also
just an interesting look at the way that demographics are
shifting across the state of Texas. You know, when new
schools opening up all over the state and things like that.
(15:34):
That is one thing we are definitely keeping an all
on off the field, because you want to talk about
something that's going to impact every single team in Texas.
Snapshot Day is a massive day for those who.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Know on it you know, people'll know me like yourself,
know that I am not am not a conspiracy theorist
that said, I've wondered from time to time with a
publication of snapshot Day, if it wasn't some sort of
encourage by certain uh shall we say, uh, officials within
(16:05):
a school district or a school to kind of come
up with a fair day or an open day.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
There's something like that where they.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Don't have as many coming in to kind of limit
the enrollment or something like that. I've often kind of
wondered if that happens in some places.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Look there, I am.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
I am positive that there are some squirrely things that
go on. I will also say.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
That there is a pretty robust kind of enforcement.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Mechanism within the ui L that if you get if
you get caught, uh, if you get caught budget your
enrollment number, they've got some hammers they can drop on you.
That happened recently, Yeah, say that there were some enrollment
numbers that got fuzzy and and a team got got
absolutely a program got hammered by them.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
And so that is one thing to keep to keep
an eye on. As far as you know, the these.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Enrollment numbers as they flew in. You can try, certainly,
but if.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
You get caught, there are punitive measures that the UIL
can take that can that I think are are make
it relatively prohibitive for you to try anything any funny
business when you're enrollment number.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I agree, and I do remember when that happened
in that program. All right, meanest thing we do to
each other, give give you three games. You tell me
which matchup that you would show up at. You can
only be at one of these. So your choices, should
you choose to accept them, are in six A you
got a seven and one Galena Park North Shore at
a seven and one ce King in five eight Division
(17:33):
one keeping it down in the Greater Houston area, you
got an eight to no Angleton at a seven and
one Laporte, and then drop it all the way down
to the smallest vision of eleven man football to a
D two. From these parts, how about undefeated Grainger, those
Lions playing at seven and one Burton this week?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What is your choice, mister Tepper?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
So that Granger Burton game is fascinating.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Especially after last week where.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Burton got upset by Iola on a last second field
goal with some uh shit Henery. There was a late
penalty that gave them one more chance.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It was a it was.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
A wild finish that Iola was able to knock off
previously unbeaten Burton. I am absolutely fascinated by the Angleton
and Laport game because there's massive implications there. There's injury
concerns for Angleton and this is really our first real
test getting to see them, uh, you know, up against
a very stout Laport team in their beautiful new stadium
(18:29):
down there in the Port. But my answer is going
to be that that District twenty three six eight title
game between north Shore and.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Ce King is anything because this is you know, this
is a bit of a neighborhood rivalry.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
They're both from the east side of Houston and this
is the opportunity for ce King. You know, we hear
Dave Campbell's sexus football a lot from fair Tousa.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know, we talked about twenty three sixty talking about
north Shore in a task.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
See the Summer Creek, but you never talked about ce King.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
What about us? What about us?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Well, they have earned the right to be talked about
in those big terms. Seven to one.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
They've looked fantastic. Here is your opportunity to take the thrown.
Here's your opportunity to get everyone in Houston talking about
and for North Shore, a team that lost in Week one,
you remember, and there.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Were huge concerns.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
All they've done is ring off seven in a row
and look absolutely spectacular in doing it. This can be
a return to order for them, or it can be
kind of a changing of the guard. In twenty three
six a, it is a fascinating ball game there on
the east side of Houston, and I'm going to be
I'm gonna be paying the clost close attention to what
goes on there.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
In twenty three six.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Seconds, he's Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine, and go to Texas Football dot com for
the subscription information on that tip. Appreciate it as always
and look forward to the next visit.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I'm looking forward to my friend Tickeare all right?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's Greg Tepper, all right?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
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