August 25, 2025 • 26 mins
Nick Shuley and Jeremy Hills join the program to discuss their weekly football show "3rd and Longhorn," which will partner with AM 1300 The Zone to deliver Longhorns' postgame content this season.
They share stories from the show's early episodes and reflect on its growth as the 2025 football season approaches.
They share stories from the show's early episodes and reflect on its growth as the 2025 football season approaches.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to the Craig Way Show and the voice
of the long Boards. Craig What follow Craig on social
media or voice.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're back here reading on a Monday afternoon here on
thirteen under the Zone. Craig Way with you and so
glad to be with you on a what we call
Longhorns Monday. The reason why we call it Longhorns Monday
is because it is the Monday of a Texas Longhorn
football game week. First time. We've been saying that since
the final week in December of twenty twenty four leading
(00:58):
up to the Cotton Bowl. So it's a brand new
football season and we had a brand new announcement today.
It was really really cool. We're excited about this as well. Now,
you know, with all of our coverage and we're excited
about you know, our Longhorns game day coverage that will
begin at eight o'clock in the morning this Saturday. In
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addition to that, we of course bring you the game
itself and then and then after the game, we have
the network post game. But this year it's going to
be even better and we're excited about this because the
local post game in addition to the network post game
(01:41):
we're going to bring you is in the partnership with
Third and Longhorn, and so many people are so familiar
with the podcast that's going on. Nick Jruley and Jeremy
Hills a lifetime Longhorn or with us, and we're glad
they dropped by. Every time I talk to you, Nick,
it's something like there's something new, there's something bigger, there's
something there's something more exciting, and this is the lightest thing.
(02:02):
And we're pretty pumped up about this. But for those
who might not be completely initiated into what Third and
Longhorn is all about, I give you the Florida educate them.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, first off, I'm a little bit nervous that our
show has to go after years, Craig, that's not fair
of me.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, it's a great wrap up.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
No, well man, it was actually I'm glad it was
Hills that came with me because the whole, the whole
synthes of the story of this podcast came from I
was at Jeremy's Jim the Collective, which is like such
a cool play amazing, it's way too.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Cool for me, and I was actually there for a meeting.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I don't want people to think I was working out there,
because you know, if you look at me, you know
I was not there working out, but Hills was there
with a bunch of there were a few former players.
I can't even remember who was there, and they were
just talking talking football. And you know, my background is
I've worked with Lance Armstrong forever and some other people
helped him start his podcast.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And I'm listening to these guys talking.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm like, I know this is a stupid thing that
everybody says, but you guys need a podcast. Just to
hear the former players talking about it. It was cool
to hear and they and they, you know, everybody knew
what they were talking about. And Hills just like, let's
do it. And I was like okay, and he's like, okay,
but you're gonna run it. I was like, yeah, that
sounds great. You know, I've always been behind the scenes.
Guys like no, no, no, no, no, You're gonna like run it,
(03:15):
run it. You're gonna be on it. And I was like, yeah,
I don't know about that. He's like, well, if you
don't do it, we're not gonna do it. So that
that was kind of that's kind of how that came about.
But it's you know, it's it really is just a
bunch of us talking ball.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You know, we in the off seasons we kind of
interview the players.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Then during the season we do a little pregame, postgame
and those type of things.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You kind of laid out the rules for them there,
didn't you, Jared, Oh, absolutely, It's very simple. You get
a couple of former Longhorns and you put them in
a space and you have us talk about something we're
passionate about. It's just gonna turn into a big argument,
a big fight, a big argument offense versus defense.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
So having Shuley there, you know, we got somebody to
reel everybody here and kind of move the show along
and then add some unbiased kind of opinions throughout. I'm like,
without Shuley, is not that show. It's literally just an argument.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
He's got to be there just to get it, just
set it all up for the.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Middle, on purpose, on purpose. I like that.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I like that all right. So when was the first
one you guys did?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Gosh, it was I think it was October of twenty three, Yeah,
it was, it was coming up on two years.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, yeah, Wow, where did you do it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So we had my full have seven hundred jobs, and
my full time gig is I worked for Gary Keller
from Keller Williams, and so Keller Williams has this amazing
building off off a mopack, and I remember there was
this room where Gary would teach people and it was
it's only used, you know, one or two times a
month or a few times. So I was like, bet
we could sneak up here film it. It's a beautiful space.
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So we go up there filming it, you know, film it.
Everything goes well, we do it again, and then I
went to Gary's assistant. I was like, hey, is that
space available this week? And because all the guys were
already on their way, and she's like, oh no, it's not,
sorry about that, and I already had the guys on
the way. She's like, well, why don't you just use
our TV studio? And I was like, well that was
an option. So we ended up, you know, we got
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we got tight with all the video team there and
they let us.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They let us shoot it in there. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I mean it's like a TV level studio and so
we have this beautiful studio, lights, nice cameras, everything, and
it's it's it's been cool, it's been fun.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So that's where you've done it since? Yeah, yeah, we all.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Out of there, right, we've done some We've since gathered
enough equipment to do road shows, so we'll do stuff,
you know, kind of on the road with some cameras
and some mics. But but yeah, we try to stay
to the home space because it's the easiest to set
up and break down.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
All right, how will you manage this when there's a game?
I mean after the game, I mean, what do you
are I'm assuming most, if not all, of your group
is at the game, and it is that the case?
And does everybody have to scramble then to the appointed
meeting place.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Well, Craig, you've you've pinpointed something that's the hardest part
of doing the show is sure is the stressful you know,
waiting for people to get there because you know, it's
you can't stay the whole game, so you got to
leave a little bit early. So people generally it's usually fine.
Everybody gets there in time. And the cool thing about
it is it's kind of become this rotating cast and
you guys will see that this year of like everybody's
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schedules are different. Certain people go to certain games, but
we just have a rule where there's got to be
three of us there generally to pull it off, and
we always manage.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You know, it works out, so it'll uh.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It figures itself out, but it is a little stressful sometimes,
you know, making sure the traffic's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I dare say, all right, So Jeremy helped me out
with something here in my time and this will be
my twenty fifth year of play by play doing the Longhorns,
including I really enjoyed calling the games that you were
a part of. But in my time I've got to
know so many foreign players work with other ones, like
Will Matthews with us on the sidelines now, and before
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that it was Kwan Cosby and before that was Rod Babers.
So we've done different ones and all of those guys
and others I know are part of some secret little
group text thing that you got. Yeah, you know what
I'm talking. I don't know exactly what you're talking. Are
you in on that deal? I won't confirm nor deny, okay,
(07:06):
And you know what, that's probably a smart deal from
what I've heard about it, because I started to say
fact or fiction, that group text really sizzles during a game,
good or bad on a given Saturday.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Listen, Like I said, if Sureley wasn't a part of
the show, uh huh, Like this thing could go off
the rail one way or the other, right, But no,
it's so much passion and it's so many different eras
of Texas Ball and one kind of setting. So like
what we know as the path to win is it
may be a little bit different than what DJ thought,
maybe a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Than what Rod thought, Fozzy, whoever the case may be.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
So yeah, you get all of these guys with all
of these different ideas, but we all agree on one thing.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Run the ball and play defense. If you can do that,
you got a chance to win. Run the ball and
stop the run. Hey, best athletes on the field. This
is objectively speaking. Guy. Of course, it is Jeremy Hills
and Nick Shuley with us here on thirteen under. Then, okay,
how many will be involved with this? You said they
will rotate, So who are some of the people who
(08:09):
will be involved with this?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, so the actual show is is myself and then Jeremy, DJ,
Derrek Johnson, Fozzy Whittaker, Rob Babers, and Alex elkafor So that's.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
All of you guys at corm and Jewelers yesterday.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We were everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, I was invited to that. We had a family
thing I had to deal with, so I was unable
to come. But that that had to be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It was.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was really cool, man Hill. I don't know what
you thought about that place.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
That places.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I love Corman.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
This was my first time in there, and like I
was like, oh, this is phenomenal, and I will make
sure to keep my hands in my pockets.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, I don't want to break anything. I want to
have a room there.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That place is that that is a five star hotel level, Like,
it's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Did you get to meet Catherine Thornhill, wife of the
one and only Nathan thorn Hill. Okay, all right, she's
the one I work with when I'm you know, trying
to make sure I keep my wife happy. Here, we're
going to go down there to that deal. Okay, So
so all of those guys are are involved.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, so yeah, so obviously during the season, you know,
Rod has some other commitments and Fozzy has ESPN, so
he's out of town ninety five percent. I think he
came on one, like I think, say, anytime he's in town,
he'll come in. But we also kind of had this
these additional characters who Coo got into the post Gamp show,
and Adrian Phillips started showing up and he's phenomenal and
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he's definitely he's gonna be on this weekend with us.
And then Aaron Williams kind of became a regular character.
And then Hill's like goes to most of the games,
and then we'll just grab somebody like he brought Joseph Osai.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He brought all these guys through. So it's cool.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So sometimes we'll be like, hey, we got to put
up another mic, we got you know so, and so
coming through.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
It's fun because like in the beginning, like let's call
it twenty twenty three, I'm over here hitting my guys up,
like come get on the show, Come get on there,
like a you know, I'll come.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I see him at the game and they're stopping me
rack Post stopping me.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Hey we on the show, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
So now these guys want to be on the show,
and it's fun to have, you know, athletes, people that
you respect their opinions, that they know the game, and
then you have them come give their immediate response based
on what they've seen from their point of view. I
think that that's a unique kind of insight for a
listener or a viewer, Like this is what a ten
year NFL fed All Pro mister everything thinks about the
(10:19):
last sixty minutes of football, right, So like trying to
give those unique perspectives and then you know, having fun
while we're doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, you know what I like in it too, the
way you described it. Back in the sixties, the original
Batman TV show, it became such a hit that all
of these guest stars wanted to be on it. They
all wanted to be a guest villain on Batman. So
would you say that you're all good guys? Or is
there a villain or two mixed up in there? Do
they play offensive defense?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that the key?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I didn't make the rules, This says the villain all right?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
All right?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
As Alex.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So Alex and Alex and Hills have a pretty good
little dynamic of fighting each other on about everything out
of that goo.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Alex is one of my best friends on this planet.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Like he I was there.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Alex was recruited the year after me, and his first
day at UT like his I remember Alex walking into
the locker room with like all of his gear that
he just got from chipp and he sat down in
the locker across from me, and I remember like me
and Earl Thomas telling him like, I think you got
the wrong locker, like and then like watching Alex walk
around the locker room with all of his stuff trying
to figure out I'm playing man, that's your locker Like.
(11:25):
So I've been I've been knowing and messing with Alex
since two thousand and nine when he first stepped foot
on the campus.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
All right now you uh you mentioned Aaron Williams. Uh,
your your time at Texas overlapped, right, Me and a
J would the same recruiting same recruiting line. Okay, I'm
glad you said AJ. Here's here's the reason why I
always tell a story that you know he came in.
We were talking about Aaron Williams had a McNeil high
and Aeron Williams and this and this and this and
then of course doing Mac Brown Show every week, and
(11:52):
Mack kept saying AJ and AJ just AJ. Then and
so so I started calling him a J.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And I get any email from his dad. Oh going,
We gave him the name Aaron for a reason. It's
a biblical name, and we would appreciate if you call
him Eric.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So I remember telling John Bianca that he said, and
I told Mac that it's the same thing. They said, Well,
somebody better tell their kid together, because he told us
about about to say.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
When I met him, he told me his name was
a J. Now I'm gonna say this is mister Anthony
says his name there.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
He said, you better do that right. Absolutely. The reason
why I bring that up, Cameron Parker tells me today
he is engineering for Will Matthews over there and they're
doing interviews including Malik Muhammad. Now we all call him
Manny right erasment client. What did man he say?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Cam? What did he?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
What did what did Malik say to you today?
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Well, we'll call them manny and Leak said, please call
me Malik. Sark started it and called me Manny, and
everyone calls him Manny. But he wants to go by Malik,
and the same thing with Secrea Baster, he wants to
go by c J.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I think a lot of media just calls him Cedric.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You know what, I can't keep up.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I can't keep up. Yeah, couldn't try the n wise
non versus Trey. Now, I did high school state championship
games with guys like Malik Muhammad. In high school, they
were calling him Manny. I think sark just seized on
it during the recruiting process, and the same thing with Trey.
It was always Tray. The most celebrated of these stories, however,
is Matthew Golden last year and and Sarka didn't calling
(13:23):
him Matt, Matt, Matt Matt. So we did that on
the post game and I asked him during the break,
I said, hey, Matthew or Matt and you know, we're
up in the broadcast, but he's down the locker room
and he's on the headset. He goes, he said, oh uh,
he said call me Matt. I don't know where the
Matthew stuff started. And I said, well, it's your name.
He goes, yeah, but just Matt. One week later he's
coming in and will tells us right before we come
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out of the break, Uh, we gotta go. We got
to go with Matthew. His mom wants Matthew. So then
so then I went Matthew and we called him Matthew
and then we got done and I said, is that okay?
Matthew goes, yeah, my mom wanted to I was like, okay,
all right. Duly noted Wiser comes in the very next
(14:07):
interview and I said, hey, listen, I want to make
sure this, uh you know, Golden says, we got to
go by Matthew on that are you training because oh no, no,
you call me Trey, although TV was calling them Contravian. Yeah,
Quin Travian. And I said, I don't care, you just
tell me. Yeah. No.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
At the end of the day, I think we can
all agree what mamma says, goes, yeah, yeah, if the
parents want that, you know, that's that's that's just how
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay. So tell people a little bit about what the
actual postgame show. When you're on the Third and Longhorn
Podcast postgame here here on the zone, what are they
actually gonna hear? Are they gonna hear a breakdown of
the game. Are they gonna hear opinion? Are they gonna
hear theory? Are they gonna hear ranting all the above?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yes, yes is the answer.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, it's if you if you could have a camera
on us prepping for this sing it's Mark Higgins, who
produces the show, would be we're back there, and also
Derek Joe, who's the other producer. We're back there pulling stats,
like trying to get everything together because you know, we
don't have a line to all the stats and things
like that, so we're we're online getting everything, getting all
our notes prepped, and then generally we try to go
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we we'll go live ten minutes after the game. Ten
to fifteen's the gold, depending on what people show up,
but it generally does. We'll start with a quick kind
of thoughts on the game, then actually go through and
break it down offense, defense and my favorite part of
the special teams that no one cares about with me,
so and then so we'll just kind of walk through that,
and then we open it up to questions on from YouTube,
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et cetera, and we're going to we're gonna try to
figure out I think camer and I are going to
figure out a call in or just an email or
something like that too, so that people can send their
questions in as they happen, and we get we were
so surprised we didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You know, we this, We flipped this thing live. We
had you know, ten or fifteen people saying.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Hey, you guys should do a post game you do
a preview show, to do the postgame show, and so
we flipped it on expected. You know, we threw up
an Instagram post, so we're gonna do it, and it
had five or six hundred people on the first one.
We're like, oh okay, and it just kept growing and
growing and growing with lots of lots of comments. We
skip over a lot of them, you know, from the
other teams, but we we try to attack a lot
of them.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well see see. And I think that's good because I'll
be honest and saying, having been around here a while,
I've heard all manner of postgame and post postgame shows,
and a lot of it just turns out to what
we used to joke, if if Longhorn Game Day was
the pregame show, Long Horn Blame Day was the post game.
You know, it'd been recalling and doing that. The best
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example of all of that that I've always said this,
hand to god, this actually happened. We had just signed
off the air of the Rose Bowl win over USC
National champions elation. Everybody's just thrilled and all that kind
of stuff. We get off the air. We had like
an hour and forty five minute network post because we
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were not going off the air until we got Vy.
We just weren't. And so we got him and we
got everything done. We sign off, We get off the air,
take off the headsets, pack up the backs, we walk out,
We take the elevator down and get in my car
to drive, and then I dial in. I have a
call and dial in number to listen to our post
game show on this station with the guy who's doing
the local postgame square to you. Actual callers said, Hey, guys,
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you know and everybody's excited. He because I wanted to
say this, and he goes, and he goes. I don't
want you to think that I'm just joking. I am
serious about this, he said. I think it's wonderful we
won the national championship, but I got to tell you,
we gave up thirty eight points to USC and if
the defense is not better next year, we don't have
a shot to get back. I don't know what to think.
I'm really frustrated thinking about this defense. Dude, they just
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wanted an act. He was dead serious. So what that
confirmed to me is there will always be some unhappy
people no matter what you do. You know, win the
national title and there'll be somebody up.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
So it wasn't a negative thought in my head at
that moment, like.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
How do you.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I was still I was still in I was in
high school. I was still running around my apartment like
I was elated. I can the score was just what
we won by.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It as well, we could think about the most incredible
games ever and you gotta be back.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I mean, game is better.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So my point, as you guys get ready to launch
into this is you may get some unusual responses, even
to the biggest moments. Texas could go up and win
fifty sixty three on Saturday, but there will be somebody
complaining about the three points gave up, problematic or something
we did.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think the funny thing is other teams fans will
tune in, Yeah, but it's not totally what you expect.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
A lot of them are very nice and respectful, saying, hey,
you guys do it.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You know, you guys are pretty pretty fair in this thing,
and you know it's not too We're you know, ninety
something percent burn orange glasses here. But we're also going
to call things how they are, and so we were
very surprising. We have a lot of like nice Georgia
fans who write in and say, hey, I watch your
every week, the nicest people.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Why got nothing negative to say about? Yeah, got nothing
negative to say.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
They're on there telling us like, hey, obviously you guys
bleed brunos.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You can obviously tell that.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
But of the post game shows I've seen, this one
is probably the most fair iness assessment, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And I'm like, well, thank you. That's how we try
to That's where you're getting your highest compliments if people
are people are saying that, you know, if they're saying that,
you're presenting kind of a fair and balanced viewpoint, even
if you're presenting it from the perspective of hoping. And
that's what we strive for. In the broadcast boat, you know,
we were gonna screen dollar or holler Homer stuff. We're
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going to get excited when Texas wins. I always say,
everybody can always tell who I want to win the game, right,
But the most important thing is to transmit the message
of what happened in the game, and I think you
guys look at it the same way.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, I think we try we try to be I
wouldn't say unbiased, because we are biased, but also it
is it's like we try to try to give a
good educated opinion, to give credit where credits to it,
and a lot it's I mean, how do you that
the first Georgia game last year, how do you how
do you not give credit to Georgia for coming out
and punching us in the mouth.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And so yeah, I to sit there and be like, oh,
you know, Touxas didn't play well and Georgie, you know,
Georgia got.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Look, it's like, no, that's that's not why. Yeah, that's
not the that's not the football game. Wets a different game.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, hey, you lived through some of that. Remember the
sixty three, twenty one, fifty five, seventeen, and sixty third,
Well sixty three fourteen predated you, but some of those
others you remember some of those oh you games, And
and there's some games where it is what it was
right and you can only call it for what it was.
(20:36):
But the art of it, I think is being able
to say what happened why without it getting too personal
about why this play wasn't made and why that particular
player did was unable to make the play, rather than.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Just pointing a finger and saying this guy sucks, right,
it's not good. I mean Major Appleway kind of like
what hammered at home right, because Major was was tough.
Major was a tough football coach to play for. But
he would always tell us like I'm always speaking to
a performance. I'm never speaking to the man, and I
want you guys to know that. Like if I'm speaking
to you as a man, is when I'm asking you
how your mom's doing. That's when I'm asking you how
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your grades are. Like when I'm talking anything football, I'm
talking to the player and the performance. So like now
that you know, my playing days are well done, and
now I'm like evaluating and have the responsibility of trying
to deliver you know, fair assessments as people are listening
and watching. I think of it the same way of like, hey,
I'm speaking to a performance. If we got less than
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you know, three four yards per carry on the offense,
and I'm looking at the run game, I'm saying, hey,
when we're running our split zone.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We got to be able to climb up to the
second level. If we don't, we'll never have success there. Yea.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
And nothing that you can plug in any player you want, right,
that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, you know what I mean. That's all it has
to be what it has to be. That's kind of
how I try to look at it. Yeah, okay, all
right now before I let you guys go, I want
to your your place. The collective is amazing. I've seen
lots of reports on it and I heard so many
people talk about how did it come to be?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And so I've been in the high level performance training
space now for thirteen years, and.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Did you start to get interested in it after you
had your first knee injury?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Exactly what happened after my first knee injury. Through my
rehab process, I was like just interested in how I
was being put back together right, and I had an
amazing staff that helped me through that rehab. And then
on the back end of that, my thoughts around just
performance training overall had changed, Right. I didn't just think bigger, faster, stronger.
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I'm more thought in the lens of like longevity and performance.
Working as one that's like fueled with like a nutrition
and understanding how recovery works.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
So it's just like anything exposure creates interest, Interests goes
into education, Education goes into doing things that we've done better.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So that same process did that there.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I went into training pro athletes and college athletes for
over a decade, and that gave me the opportunity to
get into education, and you know, long story long, started
teaching both domestic and internationally to physiotherapists and exercise physiologists
and talk now in six different countries. One of the
I was in Dubai for a little bit and seeing
a facility that blew me away in two thousand and
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spring of twenty nineteen. Okay, and now it's one of
those things where exposure happens, right. I can't get this
thought out of my mind of what I just witnessed.
They had everything you can imagine, and I was like, hey,
what if we exposed the general public to the level
of care in a facility that the professional athlete is
(23:34):
accustomed to? And then what if we attracted the same
high level performers, whether it was the business professional or
the professional athlete, and then what happens in that building?
So we had way more questions and answers, and then
we had a problem that we were trying to solve
for COVID happened.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And then I think on the back end of COVID,
we can.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
All agree that health became a priority for a lot
of people that didn't have it as a priority before,
and so we kind of grab lightning in a bottle
and pass forward. Out of twenty twenty five, we have
two packed out facilities here in Austin building number three
in Nashville and working them from there. So it's been
a fun journey of fun ride. And even as we
were walking in the building here with Nick, I was like,
(24:14):
don't get me wrong, that's my life's passion and that's
like what I feel like I'm put here to do.
I don't have anything in my life. I's hod of
being a father. That's more fun than what we do
on the show every week. I got you so like,
this is probably the most This is the toy department,
so much fun. I'm having a blast.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
The best part about Jeremy's story with fitness is that's
how I actually met him. I was working with Lance
Armstrong and Lance was getting trained by Jeremy, and so
we went up to the gym he was working at
at the time, and Lance was like, come on, man,
just work out with us, you know. And so you
look at Jeremy and you know Lance Armstrong's level of fitness,
and I was in pretty good shape at the time,
(24:55):
but like was not ready for this. They do a
fifteen minute warm up, and I thought I was dying.
I'm not lying like they in the warm up. In
the warm up and and well I felt a little
better because one of the ladies who worked there was
struggling too. But after about twenty minutes I tapped out
and and and so I was like, Okay, that's that's
next level athlete.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Here's here's where I am.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Do you do? What do you like training better? The
non professional or the professional?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Honestly, the professional athlete has a mentality that they like
they gotta have it right. There's a there's a different
level of hunger there, and it's it's a necessity because
this is a part of like typically how they feed
their family, sure, right, So it's a different level of
intensity that's that's brought to the session every single day.
But the education in the aha moments that happened when
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you're just training like anyone. I think I'm starting to
enjoy that more. And I'm gonna say that's after I
became very gratifyed. That's after I became a father as well. Right,
you enjoy like when the light bulb goes off for people,
and then you know they start getting a dick to
the work that it takes to have the success that
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they want.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Right, Well, I know everybody's gonna enjoy this program. You'll
have to check it. I mean, first of all, they
can just watch it where they're getting their podcast anyway, right.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, we're on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
We stream it through Instagram live and said and you
know x X live, I guess Twitter live whatever, and
so you can catch it most places. But we're so
excited to be on you know, thirteen hundred. It's it's
pretty awesome to be on the official thing and to
get to follow you for real, like it's a it's
gonna be an awesome thing.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, we'll add it to my drop in cards to
plug it a little bit there from it. We appreciated Nick,
Jeremy thanks for coming by. Nick Schuley, Jeremy Hills here
with the third and Loghorn Podcast, get it where your
podcast are, and starting this Saturday, it's the local post
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Game show right here on thirteen under the Zone
Welcome back to the Craig Way Show and the voice
of the long Boards. Craig What follow Craig on social
media or voice.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're back here reading on a Monday afternoon here on
thirteen under the Zone. Craig Way with you and so
glad to be with you on a what we call
Longhorns Monday. The reason why we call it Longhorns Monday
is because it is the Monday of a Texas Longhorn
football game week. First time. We've been saying that since
the final week in December of twenty twenty four leading
(00:58):
up to the Cotton Bowl. So it's a brand new
football season and we had a brand new announcement today.
It was really really cool. We're excited about this as well. Now,
you know, with all of our coverage and we're excited
about you know, our Longhorns game day coverage that will
begin at eight o'clock in the morning this Saturday. In
(01:19):
addition to that, we of course bring you the game
itself and then and then after the game, we have
the network post game. But this year it's going to
be even better and we're excited about this because the
local post game in addition to the network post game
(01:41):
we're going to bring you is in the partnership with
Third and Longhorn, and so many people are so familiar
with the podcast that's going on. Nick Jruley and Jeremy
Hills a lifetime Longhorn or with us, and we're glad
they dropped by. Every time I talk to you, Nick,
it's something like there's something new, there's something bigger, there's
something there's something more exciting, and this is the lightest thing.
(02:02):
And we're pretty pumped up about this. But for those
who might not be completely initiated into what Third and
Longhorn is all about, I give you the Florida educate them.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, first off, I'm a little bit nervous that our
show has to go after years, Craig, that's not fair
of me.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, it's a great wrap up.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
No, well man, it was actually I'm glad it was
Hills that came with me because the whole, the whole
synthes of the story of this podcast came from I
was at Jeremy's Jim the Collective, which is like such
a cool play amazing, it's way too.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Cool for me, and I was actually there for a meeting.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I don't want people to think I was working out there,
because you know, if you look at me, you know
I was not there working out, but Hills was there
with a bunch of there were a few former players.
I can't even remember who was there, and they were
just talking talking football. And you know, my background is
I've worked with Lance Armstrong forever and some other people
helped him start his podcast.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And I'm listening to these guys talking.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm like, I know this is a stupid thing that
everybody says, but you guys need a podcast. Just to
hear the former players talking about it. It was cool
to hear and they and they, you know, everybody knew
what they were talking about. And Hills just like, let's
do it. And I was like okay, and he's like, okay,
but you're gonna run it. I was like, yeah, that
sounds great. You know, I've always been behind the scenes.
Guys like no, no, no, no, no, You're gonna like run it,
(03:15):
run it. You're gonna be on it. And I was like, yeah,
I don't know about that. He's like, well, if you
don't do it, we're not gonna do it. So that
that was kind of that's kind of how that came about.
But it's you know, it's it really is just a
bunch of us talking ball.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You know, we in the off seasons we kind of
interview the players.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Then during the season we do a little pregame, postgame
and those type of things.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You kind of laid out the rules for them there,
didn't you, Jared, Oh, absolutely, It's very simple. You get
a couple of former Longhorns and you put them in
a space and you have us talk about something we're
passionate about. It's just gonna turn into a big argument,
a big fight, a big argument offense versus defense.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
So having Shuley there, you know, we got somebody to
reel everybody here and kind of move the show along
and then add some unbiased kind of opinions throughout. I'm like,
without Shuley, is not that show. It's literally just an argument.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
He's got to be there just to get it, just
set it all up for the.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Middle, on purpose, on purpose. I like that.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I like that all right. So when was the first
one you guys did?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Gosh, it was I think it was October of twenty three, Yeah,
it was, it was coming up on two years.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, yeah, Wow, where did you do it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So we had my full have seven hundred jobs, and
my full time gig is I worked for Gary Keller
from Keller Williams, and so Keller Williams has this amazing
building off off a mopack, and I remember there was
this room where Gary would teach people and it was
it's only used, you know, one or two times a
month or a few times. So I was like, bet
we could sneak up here film it. It's a beautiful space.
(04:43):
So we go up there filming it, you know, film it.
Everything goes well, we do it again, and then I
went to Gary's assistant. I was like, hey, is that
space available this week? And because all the guys were
already on their way, and she's like, oh no, it's not,
sorry about that, and I already had the guys on
the way. She's like, well, why don't you just use
our TV studio? And I was like, well that was
an option. So we ended up, you know, we got
(05:04):
we got tight with all the video team there and
they let us.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They let us shoot it in there. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I mean it's like a TV level studio and so
we have this beautiful studio, lights, nice cameras, everything, and
it's it's it's been cool, it's been fun.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So that's where you've done it since? Yeah, yeah, we all.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Out of there, right, we've done some We've since gathered
enough equipment to do road shows, so we'll do stuff,
you know, kind of on the road with some cameras
and some mics. But but yeah, we try to stay
to the home space because it's the easiest to set
up and break down.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
All right, how will you manage this when there's a game?
I mean after the game, I mean, what do you
are I'm assuming most, if not all, of your group
is at the game, and it is that the case?
And does everybody have to scramble then to the appointed
meeting place.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Well, Craig, you've you've pinpointed something that's the hardest part
of doing the show is sure is the stressful you know,
waiting for people to get there because you know, it's
you can't stay the whole game, so you got to
leave a little bit early. So people generally it's usually fine.
Everybody gets there in time. And the cool thing about
it is it's kind of become this rotating cast and
you guys will see that this year of like everybody's
(06:09):
schedules are different. Certain people go to certain games, but
we just have a rule where there's got to be
three of us there generally to pull it off, and
we always manage.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You know, it works out, so it'll uh.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It figures itself out, but it is a little stressful sometimes,
you know, making sure the traffic's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I dare say, all right, So Jeremy helped me out
with something here in my time and this will be
my twenty fifth year of play by play doing the Longhorns,
including I really enjoyed calling the games that you were
a part of. But in my time I've got to
know so many foreign players work with other ones, like
Will Matthews with us on the sidelines now, and before
(06:45):
that it was Kwan Cosby and before that was Rod Babers.
So we've done different ones and all of those guys
and others I know are part of some secret little
group text thing that you got. Yeah, you know what
I'm talking. I don't know exactly what you're talking. Are
you in on that deal? I won't confirm nor deny, okay,
(07:06):
And you know what, that's probably a smart deal from
what I've heard about it, because I started to say
fact or fiction, that group text really sizzles during a game,
good or bad on a given Saturday.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Listen, Like I said, if Sureley wasn't a part of
the show, uh huh, Like this thing could go off
the rail one way or the other, right, But no,
it's so much passion and it's so many different eras
of Texas Ball and one kind of setting. So like
what we know as the path to win is it
may be a little bit different than what DJ thought,
maybe a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Than what Rod thought, Fozzy, whoever the case may be.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
So yeah, you get all of these guys with all
of these different ideas, but we all agree on one thing.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Run the ball and play defense. If you can do that,
you got a chance to win. Run the ball and
stop the run. Hey, best athletes on the field. This
is objectively speaking. Guy. Of course, it is Jeremy Hills
and Nick Shuley with us here on thirteen under. Then, okay,
how many will be involved with this? You said they
will rotate, So who are some of the people who
(08:09):
will be involved with this?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, so the actual show is is myself and then Jeremy, DJ,
Derrek Johnson, Fozzy Whittaker, Rob Babers, and Alex elkafor So that's.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
All of you guys at corm and Jewelers yesterday.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We were everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, I was invited to that. We had a family
thing I had to deal with, so I was unable
to come. But that that had to be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It was.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was really cool, man Hill. I don't know what
you thought about that place.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
That places.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I love Corman.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
This was my first time in there, and like I
was like, oh, this is phenomenal, and I will make
sure to keep my hands in my pockets.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, I don't want to break anything. I want to
have a room there.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That place is that that is a five star hotel level, Like,
it's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Did you get to meet Catherine Thornhill, wife of the
one and only Nathan thorn Hill. Okay, all right, she's
the one I work with when I'm you know, trying
to make sure I keep my wife happy. Here, we're
going to go down there to that deal. Okay, So
so all of those guys are are involved.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, so yeah, so obviously during the season, you know,
Rod has some other commitments and Fozzy has ESPN, so
he's out of town ninety five percent. I think he
came on one, like I think, say, anytime he's in town,
he'll come in. But we also kind of had this
these additional characters who Coo got into the post Gamp show,
and Adrian Phillips started showing up and he's phenomenal and
(09:26):
he's definitely he's gonna be on this weekend with us.
And then Aaron Williams kind of became a regular character.
And then Hill's like goes to most of the games,
and then we'll just grab somebody like he brought Joseph Osai.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He brought all these guys through. So it's cool.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So sometimes we'll be like, hey, we got to put
up another mic, we got you know so, and so
coming through.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
It's fun because like in the beginning, like let's call
it twenty twenty three, I'm over here hitting my guys up,
like come get on the show, Come get on there,
like a you know, I'll come.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I see him at the game and they're stopping me
rack Post stopping me.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Hey we on the show, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
So now these guys want to be on the show,
and it's fun to have, you know, athletes, people that
you respect their opinions, that they know the game, and
then you have them come give their immediate response based
on what they've seen from their point of view. I
think that that's a unique kind of insight for a
listener or a viewer, Like this is what a ten
year NFL fed All Pro mister everything thinks about the
(10:19):
last sixty minutes of football, right, So like trying to
give those unique perspectives and then you know, having fun
while we're doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, you know what I like in it too, the
way you described it. Back in the sixties, the original
Batman TV show, it became such a hit that all
of these guest stars wanted to be on it. They
all wanted to be a guest villain on Batman. So
would you say that you're all good guys? Or is
there a villain or two mixed up in there? Do
they play offensive defense?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that the key?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I didn't make the rules, This says the villain all right?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
All right?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
As Alex.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So Alex and Alex and Hills have a pretty good
little dynamic of fighting each other on about everything out
of that goo.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Alex is one of my best friends on this planet.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Like he I was there.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Alex was recruited the year after me, and his first
day at UT like his I remember Alex walking into
the locker room with like all of his gear that
he just got from chipp and he sat down in
the locker across from me, and I remember like me
and Earl Thomas telling him like, I think you got
the wrong locker, like and then like watching Alex walk
around the locker room with all of his stuff trying
to figure out I'm playing man, that's your locker Like.
(11:25):
So I've been I've been knowing and messing with Alex
since two thousand and nine when he first stepped foot
on the campus.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
All right now you uh you mentioned Aaron Williams. Uh,
your your time at Texas overlapped, right, Me and a
J would the same recruiting same recruiting line. Okay, I'm
glad you said AJ. Here's here's the reason why I
always tell a story that you know he came in.
We were talking about Aaron Williams had a McNeil high
and Aeron Williams and this and this and this and
then of course doing Mac Brown Show every week, and
(11:52):
Mack kept saying AJ and AJ just AJ. Then and
so so I started calling him a J.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And I get any email from his dad. Oh going,
We gave him the name Aaron for a reason. It's
a biblical name, and we would appreciate if you call
him Eric.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So I remember telling John Bianca that he said, and
I told Mac that it's the same thing. They said, Well,
somebody better tell their kid together, because he told us
about about to say.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
When I met him, he told me his name was
a J. Now I'm gonna say this is mister Anthony
says his name there.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
He said, you better do that right. Absolutely. The reason
why I bring that up, Cameron Parker tells me today
he is engineering for Will Matthews over there and they're
doing interviews including Malik Muhammad. Now we all call him
Manny right erasment client. What did man he say?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Cam? What did he?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
What did what did Malik say to you today?
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Well, we'll call them manny and Leak said, please call
me Malik. Sark started it and called me Manny, and
everyone calls him Manny. But he wants to go by Malik,
and the same thing with Secrea Baster, he wants to
go by c J.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I think a lot of media just calls him Cedric.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You know what, I can't keep up.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I can't keep up. Yeah, couldn't try the n wise
non versus Trey. Now, I did high school state championship
games with guys like Malik Muhammad. In high school, they
were calling him Manny. I think sark just seized on
it during the recruiting process, and the same thing with Trey.
It was always Tray. The most celebrated of these stories, however,
is Matthew Golden last year and and Sarka didn't calling
(13:23):
him Matt, Matt, Matt Matt. So we did that on
the post game and I asked him during the break,
I said, hey, Matthew or Matt and you know, we're
up in the broadcast, but he's down the locker room
and he's on the headset. He goes, he said, oh uh,
he said call me Matt. I don't know where the
Matthew stuff started. And I said, well, it's your name.
He goes, yeah, but just Matt. One week later he's
coming in and will tells us right before we come
(13:47):
out of the break, Uh, we gotta go. We got
to go with Matthew. His mom wants Matthew. So then
so then I went Matthew and we called him Matthew
and then we got done and I said, is that okay?
Matthew goes, yeah, my mom wanted to I was like, okay,
all right. Duly noted Wiser comes in the very next
(14:07):
interview and I said, hey, listen, I want to make
sure this, uh you know, Golden says, we got to
go by Matthew on that are you training because oh no, no,
you call me Trey, although TV was calling them Contravian. Yeah,
Quin Travian. And I said, I don't care, you just
tell me. Yeah. No.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
At the end of the day, I think we can
all agree what mamma says, goes, yeah, yeah, if the
parents want that, you know, that's that's that's just how
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay. So tell people a little bit about what the
actual postgame show. When you're on the Third and Longhorn
Podcast postgame here here on the zone, what are they
actually gonna hear? Are they gonna hear a breakdown of
the game. Are they gonna hear opinion? Are they gonna
hear theory? Are they gonna hear ranting all the above?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yes, yes is the answer.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, it's if you if you could have a camera
on us prepping for this sing it's Mark Higgins, who
produces the show, would be we're back there, and also
Derek Joe, who's the other producer. We're back there pulling stats,
like trying to get everything together because you know, we
don't have a line to all the stats and things
like that, so we're we're online getting everything, getting all
our notes prepped, and then generally we try to go
(15:17):
we we'll go live ten minutes after the game. Ten
to fifteen's the gold, depending on what people show up,
but it generally does. We'll start with a quick kind
of thoughts on the game, then actually go through and
break it down offense, defense and my favorite part of
the special teams that no one cares about with me,
so and then so we'll just kind of walk through that,
and then we open it up to questions on from YouTube,
(15:40):
et cetera, and we're going to we're gonna try to
figure out I think camer and I are going to
figure out a call in or just an email or
something like that too, so that people can send their
questions in as they happen, and we get we were
so surprised we didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You know, we this, We flipped this thing live. We
had you know, ten or fifteen people saying.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Hey, you guys should do a post game you do
a preview show, to do the postgame show, and so
we flipped it on expected. You know, we threw up
an Instagram post, so we're gonna do it, and it
had five or six hundred people on the first one.
We're like, oh okay, and it just kept growing and
growing and growing with lots of lots of comments. We
skip over a lot of them, you know, from the
other teams, but we we try to attack a lot
of them.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well see see. And I think that's good because I'll
be honest and saying, having been around here a while,
I've heard all manner of postgame and post postgame shows,
and a lot of it just turns out to what
we used to joke, if if Longhorn Game Day was
the pregame show, Long Horn Blame Day was the post game.
You know, it'd been recalling and doing that. The best
(16:40):
example of all of that that I've always said this,
hand to god, this actually happened. We had just signed
off the air of the Rose Bowl win over USC
National champions elation. Everybody's just thrilled and all that kind
of stuff. We get off the air. We had like
an hour and forty five minute network post because we
(17:00):
were not going off the air until we got Vy.
We just weren't. And so we got him and we
got everything done. We sign off, We get off the air,
take off the headsets, pack up the backs, we walk out,
We take the elevator down and get in my car
to drive, and then I dial in. I have a
call and dial in number to listen to our post
game show on this station with the guy who's doing
the local postgame square to you. Actual callers said, Hey, guys,
(17:23):
you know and everybody's excited. He because I wanted to
say this, and he goes, and he goes. I don't
want you to think that I'm just joking. I am
serious about this, he said. I think it's wonderful we
won the national championship, but I got to tell you,
we gave up thirty eight points to USC and if
the defense is not better next year, we don't have
a shot to get back. I don't know what to think.
I'm really frustrated thinking about this defense. Dude, they just
(17:46):
wanted an act. He was dead serious. So what that
confirmed to me is there will always be some unhappy
people no matter what you do. You know, win the
national title and there'll be somebody up.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
So it wasn't a negative thought in my head at
that moment, like.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
How do you.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I was still I was still in I was in
high school. I was still running around my apartment like
I was elated. I can the score was just what
we won by.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It as well, we could think about the most incredible
games ever and you gotta be back.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I mean, game is better.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So my point, as you guys get ready to launch
into this is you may get some unusual responses, even
to the biggest moments. Texas could go up and win
fifty sixty three on Saturday, but there will be somebody
complaining about the three points gave up, problematic or something
we did.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think the funny thing is other teams fans will
tune in, Yeah, but it's not totally what you expect.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
A lot of them are very nice and respectful, saying, hey,
you guys do it.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You know, you guys are pretty pretty fair in this thing,
and you know it's not too We're you know, ninety
something percent burn orange glasses here. But we're also going
to call things how they are, and so we were
very surprising. We have a lot of like nice Georgia
fans who write in and say, hey, I watch your
every week, the nicest people.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Why got nothing negative to say about? Yeah, got nothing
negative to say.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
They're on there telling us like, hey, obviously you guys
bleed brunos.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You can obviously tell that.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
But of the post game shows I've seen, this one
is probably the most fair iness assessment, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And I'm like, well, thank you. That's how we try
to That's where you're getting your highest compliments if people
are people are saying that, you know, if they're saying that,
you're presenting kind of a fair and balanced viewpoint, even
if you're presenting it from the perspective of hoping. And
that's what we strive for. In the broadcast boat, you know,
we were gonna screen dollar or holler Homer stuff. We're
(19:37):
going to get excited when Texas wins. I always say,
everybody can always tell who I want to win the game, right,
But the most important thing is to transmit the message
of what happened in the game, and I think you
guys look at it the same way.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, I think we try we try to be I
wouldn't say unbiased, because we are biased, but also it
is it's like we try to try to give a
good educated opinion, to give credit where credits to it,
and a lot it's I mean, how do you that
the first Georgia game last year, how do you how
do you not give credit to Georgia for coming out
and punching us in the mouth.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And so yeah, I to sit there and be like, oh,
you know, Touxas didn't play well and Georgie, you know,
Georgia got.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Look, it's like, no, that's that's not why. Yeah, that's
not the that's not the football game. Wets a different game.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, hey, you lived through some of that. Remember the
sixty three, twenty one, fifty five, seventeen, and sixty third,
Well sixty three fourteen predated you, but some of those
others you remember some of those oh you games, And
and there's some games where it is what it was
right and you can only call it for what it was.
(20:36):
But the art of it, I think is being able
to say what happened why without it getting too personal
about why this play wasn't made and why that particular
player did was unable to make the play, rather than.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Just pointing a finger and saying this guy sucks, right,
it's not good. I mean Major Appleway kind of like
what hammered at home right, because Major was was tough.
Major was a tough football coach to play for. But
he would always tell us like I'm always speaking to
a performance. I'm never speaking to the man, and I
want you guys to know that. Like if I'm speaking
to you as a man, is when I'm asking you
how your mom's doing. That's when I'm asking you how
(21:12):
your grades are. Like when I'm talking anything football, I'm
talking to the player and the performance. So like now
that you know, my playing days are well done, and
now I'm like evaluating and have the responsibility of trying
to deliver you know, fair assessments as people are listening
and watching. I think of it the same way of like, hey,
I'm speaking to a performance. If we got less than
(21:32):
you know, three four yards per carry on the offense,
and I'm looking at the run game, I'm saying, hey,
when we're running our split zone.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We got to be able to climb up to the
second level. If we don't, we'll never have success there. Yea.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
And nothing that you can plug in any player you want, right,
that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, you know what I mean. That's all it has
to be what it has to be. That's kind of
how I try to look at it. Yeah, okay, all
right now before I let you guys go, I want
to your your place. The collective is amazing. I've seen
lots of reports on it and I heard so many
people talk about how did it come to be?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And so I've been in the high level performance training
space now for thirteen years, and.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Did you start to get interested in it after you
had your first knee injury?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Exactly what happened after my first knee injury. Through my
rehab process, I was like just interested in how I
was being put back together right, and I had an
amazing staff that helped me through that rehab. And then
on the back end of that, my thoughts around just
performance training overall had changed, Right. I didn't just think bigger, faster, stronger.
(22:33):
I'm more thought in the lens of like longevity and performance.
Working as one that's like fueled with like a nutrition
and understanding how recovery works.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
So it's just like anything exposure creates interest, Interests goes
into education, Education goes into doing things that we've done better.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So that same process did that there.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I went into training pro athletes and college athletes for
over a decade, and that gave me the opportunity to
get into education, and you know, long story long, started
teaching both domestic and internationally to physiotherapists and exercise physiologists
and talk now in six different countries. One of the
I was in Dubai for a little bit and seeing
a facility that blew me away in two thousand and
(23:12):
spring of twenty nineteen. Okay, and now it's one of
those things where exposure happens, right. I can't get this
thought out of my mind of what I just witnessed.
They had everything you can imagine, and I was like, hey,
what if we exposed the general public to the level
of care in a facility that the professional athlete is
(23:34):
accustomed to? And then what if we attracted the same
high level performers, whether it was the business professional or
the professional athlete, and then what happens in that building?
So we had way more questions and answers, and then
we had a problem that we were trying to solve
for COVID happened.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And then I think on the back end of COVID,
we can.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
All agree that health became a priority for a lot
of people that didn't have it as a priority before,
and so we kind of grab lightning in a bottle
and pass forward. Out of twenty twenty five, we have
two packed out facilities here in Austin building number three
in Nashville and working them from there. So it's been
a fun journey of fun ride. And even as we
were walking in the building here with Nick, I was like,
(24:14):
don't get me wrong, that's my life's passion and that's
like what I feel like I'm put here to do.
I don't have anything in my life. I's hod of
being a father. That's more fun than what we do
on the show every week. I got you so like,
this is probably the most This is the toy department,
so much fun. I'm having a blast.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
The best part about Jeremy's story with fitness is that's
how I actually met him. I was working with Lance
Armstrong and Lance was getting trained by Jeremy, and so
we went up to the gym he was working at
at the time, and Lance was like, come on, man,
just work out with us, you know. And so you
look at Jeremy and you know Lance Armstrong's level of fitness,
and I was in pretty good shape at the time,
(24:55):
but like was not ready for this. They do a
fifteen minute warm up, and I thought I was dying.
I'm not lying like they in the warm up. In
the warm up and and well I felt a little
better because one of the ladies who worked there was
struggling too. But after about twenty minutes I tapped out
and and and so I was like, Okay, that's that's
next level athlete.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Here's here's where I am.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Do you do? What do you like training better? The
non professional or the professional?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Honestly, the professional athlete has a mentality that they like
they gotta have it right. There's a there's a different
level of hunger there, and it's it's a necessity because
this is a part of like typically how they feed
their family, sure, right, So it's a different level of
intensity that's that's brought to the session every single day.
But the education in the aha moments that happened when
(25:43):
you're just training like anyone. I think I'm starting to
enjoy that more. And I'm gonna say that's after I
became very gratifyed. That's after I became a father as well. Right,
you enjoy like when the light bulb goes off for people,
and then you know they start getting a dick to
the work that it takes to have the success that
(26:03):
they want.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Right, Well, I know everybody's gonna enjoy this program. You'll
have to check it. I mean, first of all, they
can just watch it where they're getting their podcast anyway, right.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, we're on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
We stream it through Instagram live and said and you
know x X live, I guess Twitter live whatever, and
so you can catch it most places. But we're so
excited to be on you know, thirteen hundred. It's it's
pretty awesome to be on the official thing and to
get to follow you for real, like it's a it's
gonna be an awesome thing.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, we'll add it to my drop in cards to
plug it a little bit there from it. We appreciated Nick,
Jeremy thanks for coming by. Nick Schuley, Jeremy Hills here
with the third and Loghorn Podcast, get it where your
podcast are, and starting this Saturday, it's the local post
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Game show right here on thirteen under the Zone
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