July 23, 2025 • 17 mins
In this episode, Craig Way is joined in-studio by baseball analyst Ty Harrington for a wide-ranging conversation that’s part storytelling, part behind-the-scenes, and all heart. From growing up in Woodway, Texas before the Chip and JoJo era, to tales of old-school scorekeeping and modern-day broadcasting tools, this episode explores the evolution of baseball coverage—both on the field and off. Ty shares insights from his recent visits with top college coaches, the rise of Coastal Carolina as a national contender, and why Texas’ returning pitching trio is a major win for the Longhorns. Plus, the two talk about the future of NIL in college baseball, the impact of player development, and pay tribute to the late legendary umpire John Bible. Whether you're a die-hard baseball fan or love great storytelling from inside the game, this one is a must-listen. 🎧 Available now on The Craig Way Show — only on 1300 The Zone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the greater Waco, USA, and in studio with us
is our own baseball analyst Ty Harrington. What did we
correct to say Woodway or Hewett, which was more correct
about where you actually wood grew up in Woodway.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, in Woodway, we weren't.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Before Chip and Jojo got ahold of it way before
maybe before Chip and Jojo were born.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm not sure yet, but that's that's debatable. But uh, yeah,
it was. Woodway was a much smaller town then. Obviously,
I think we were a when we first moved there.
My dad was from Waco, Okay, so he grew up
on east side of Waco on Franklin Washington Street, which
is close to downtown.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And of course Woodway is the southwestern that's off the
southwestern edge of what.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, and at the time was a little country school.
When we got there, was like a three A school
and by the time I got out of there, we
were four A, which you remember five A was the
biggest YEP at that point in time in the ADS,
and uh we were at four A school and h
obviously now it's a six A school and just has
grown and happens to be the UH state champion in
(01:07):
high school baseball this year. As I was just texting
Eddie corn Bloom, who's the head coach at Midway, and
I've got your uh people won't I won't be able
to describe it right. Craig Way does such an immaculate
job when he keeps scores of games on the broadcast,
well on on his if I if one of these
(01:27):
stage you need to put Cameron, you need to we
have a camera here. What it looks like. I mean,
it is truly, it is truly a work of art.
I mean I've worked with a lot of you know,
play by play guys, and it is not this clean,
and it is not this graphic. And it is and
and so everybody knows every game that Craig does has
(01:49):
that type of uh graphics to it, and so that
he can keep scores. The point being Eddie korn Bloom,
who's a good friend of mine and the head coach
at Midway High School, that is going to be his souvenir.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Then he's going to put Wall. Well, I'm honored that
he would attack. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
No, I mean, look, I just saw him at coaching school.
I was in San Antonio. You were too, I was there.
I was there for work for Marsha mcclennan because now
I'm in the public unity space and business insurance. And
went down there to meet with some ads and some
other people and saw Eddie and had a great visit
with him. And so I will go back to God'stown
next week waiting him, and I will go down there
(02:29):
and hand us off to him, and he is plenty
excited about it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I was saying that my my score book is not
as clean. It's basically what I gathered from that that
is correct.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, hey, got many sugar cuts.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
To be fair to both of us.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
First of all, to be fair to you, you are
in the norm where people have regular score books.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I've bought his car book. Yeah, a lot of a
lot of broadcasts.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, so many many have that sort of thing. Because I, uh, first,
if Texas played the maximum amount of games I think
in two thousand and two they played seventy two games
and went fifty seven and fifteen. And if they played
seventy some odd games, even that is less than half
(03:15):
of a minor league season.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So I didn't feel like I needed a book.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Also, because I missed several games early in the season
with basketball conflicts, so out of let's see in the
LONGRNGE finished thirty above five hundred. Whether the fIF forty three,
forty three and thirteen, I think it was one. I
think they were forty three and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And was last year?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, what was the rect forty four and fourteen? Forty
four and fourteen? I said forty three, thirteen, forty four
and fourteen. All right, so that's fifty eight games out
of the fifty eight. I think I called forty seven
of those because we had early season basketball conflicts, so
forty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So forty seven games.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I didn't feel like I needed a whole book for
That's what I do is my son Andy, who puts
together all my football and basketball charts, does one for
baseball like that, and I like it because it's pretty vivid.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
To me.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It makes for pretty quick recall when I'm calling, say
a fly ball hit to the gap in left center,
and I see that defensive chart right in front of me.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Who's trying to get to the ball, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So that's the reasoning behind it. It's for ease of broadcasts.
It's just like I tell people other broadcasters when we visit,
when I say things like, well, they said, can you
take a look at my chart and tell me I mean,
and that's not like I said. Let me ask you
one thing is does this help you in the best
(04:40):
way possible describe what you're seeing, what's coming out of
the box. And they said yes. I said, then you're fine.
That's all you need, you know. Jeff hackstono does Texas
Texas baseball and men's basketball. Years ago he was doing
oral Roberts and Hacks came up to me during the
NCAA Tournament basketball tournament and wanted to look at a chart.
I showed it to him and I said, let me
(05:01):
see yours. He says, now, I can't show that, So
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Let me see.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He goes, it's just a legal pad. I'm like, so,
so he shows me the legal pad where he's got
the stuff down, and I said, does that help you
get it right? So we're people listening when it's come
out of the box.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Sounds right?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
He said, yeah, thissen, Then that's all you need. It's
whatever helps you do the best job.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Let's just say that two things.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
When Cameron and I have worked together, I'm not looking
over his book to take two notes and let's just
say when you and I are working together, you're not
exactly looking over your right shoulder at my book either.
And you have and what people don't know too, is
you have a computer in front of you when you're
(05:47):
doing the Texas games, absolutely that has information on it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Staff monitors for both of us. We have those, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And then you historically will have at least one, maybe
two electronic devices, have a laptop and an iPad running
at the same time watching other games. And then along
with that to our left back left is a TV
screen that is the streaming service now but was Longhorn
(06:15):
Network that is showing the game live that you're that
you're calling, you should.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Come into the football broadcast BOOST sometimes because what we've
got in there is there's a TV to aur above left,
immediately there's another one directly below it. Then I've got
the laptop, I've got the iPad, and then Roger has
an iPad there. So we a lot of times we'll
have there'll be six games going on and people said, well,
(06:41):
how do you concert You're concentrating on the game you want,
but you're keeping track of other things going off.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So if people are wondering where often you're going well
down in up in Waco.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'm watching it, got it, I've got it on there
as well. Ty hearing is we need a break when
we come back when we talk some college bayball, some
off season stuff coming up when we continue on thirteen.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Under the Zone.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They were an outstanding ban of the early eighties. In
the early eighties, it was Ty Harrington's Uh, that was that?
That was your That was right your wheelhouse in the eighties. No,
I was, But.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know, always reminds me of summertime. I don't know
that I really ever listened in the winter time. You
listen to it year round, I know, but for me
it kind of resonate summertime on that. But for your
just so you know, I made my daughter sit down
with me, my middle daughters sit down with me two
weeks ago, and I made her plow through the making
(07:38):
of led Zeppelin.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Shed that she did not. She did not. She did.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It was not like sitting down with your son watching
a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It did not. It did not didn't take as well,
didn't did not land that one, which she liked.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The What Just premier last Friday, and part two will
be this Friday. On a HBO Max the documentary on
Billy Joel what should be better Chance, Better Chance? There's
really really good. I hadn't had a chance see because
they had to go to San Antonio last Friday at
that point. Yeah, it's HBO maxis suppose he's gonna do it? Okay,
let me uh get your thoughts on a couple of things.
(08:16):
We talked all the way through up to the National
Championship Series, uh about the teams that were that were
playing in Omahaia and the final analysis when the dust
settles and all that. I don't think much of anybody
was really surprised. We saw LSU early in the season,
knew they were really really good, and they kind of
went through a little bump and then they kind of
pulled it out and got it back together and then.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
They were a real force.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
But you had said even back in February, keep an
eye on Coastal watch Coastal Carolina. They they're they're a
much more complete team than folks realize because teams that
are out of whatever G five as they say, football
Group of five, football NOLG six.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Uh are they were deeper.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Than most teams that would come out of that kind
of mid major or range, and they obviously proved it
by going all the way to the national championships here.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, they were deep on the mound. Yeah, and that
and that was the piece. When you go back and
you watch h or you go back and look at
their statistics even until I think, tell a story of
comprehensive story of what they were able to accomplish on
the mound and in the field what they were also
able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Two weeks ago, I went to Auburn, Alabama with a
buddy mind early Ingram Ingham Ready Makes and Kwan Cosby
and I went on a really short.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Day and a half golf trip.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, we got to sit down with hal Bard and
then we also got to sit down with but Thompson,
the head coach of Aulburn, and had lunch with them
and sat down and talked about baseball. Was you can
imagine the conversations were going back and forth. The reason
why I tell you that is because Coastal had to
had to go to Auburn to beat Auburn. And if
you go back and you watch those games, the two
(09:50):
games that they won, their pitching in their defense was unregaler. Yeah,
that Stellar's right, because stellar means that's it. You don't
get any you don't get any better than what it was.
And they were able to accomplish that on the road
and a hostile playing the in an sec facility and
and get them to the one place everybody wants to go,
(10:12):
and that was Omaha, and they were able to play
their best game at the biggest moments. And that's why
for me going through there and watching them, they were
so clean on the mound. They didn't create innings with
their off the mound, and they did not create innings
in their defensive play. And if you can do that,
then you basically got to score for three and a
half four runs a game to try to win it,
(10:33):
you know, try to win a game or a series.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So how cool is it that for the first time ever,
the Texas Long Words are going to play the Coastal
Carolina shoan to Clears there in the event at they
can Park in Houston next year.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah. I saw that just yesterday. I guess it got
other shots. I saw an email set out. That's exciting.
I thought. I think UTSA was in there, Ole Miss
was in there. Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
At Ohio, Ohio State a very similar teams, with the
exception of UTSA to who was in Army to last
year at one point in time that played in there,
Ohio State, Ole Miss and text that all had played
there before. And so yeah, I think most coaches would
tell you, and you've heard Jim talk coach slash and
then go talk about this before, if you can get
(11:13):
into tournament play early in the year, not play on
somebody else's ballpark, and if you can get into a
facility where it's seventy two and sunny, even though in
Houston sometimes they turn their heat and it's colder.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's cold in there sometimes as you know.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But at Arrington, anytime you can get into indoor facility,
you know you're gonna play, and you know you're not
gonna play on somebody else's field in their crowd, and
then it's a neutral site. So from an RPI perspective
and or competition perspective, it is ideal.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, and I think it does make good. Now let
me ask you this. This is.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I thought about this because of something Vick Schaefer said.
The Texas women are playing in an event in Las
Vegas in November Thanksgiving what we called the Legends era,
and it's quite a field of four and it's going
to expand the six next year. But UCLA duke in
South Carolina. The other teams in Texas will play Ucla first,
(12:09):
and they'll play they could wind up playing South Carolina
in a non conference game, so to speak. But a
big component of that is there's an nil component that
goes back to players.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Can you see college baseball doing similar? Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, look you, I think all three of us
sitting in here today, and you and I being older
than Cameron obviously has seen where college baseball was and
where college baseball is today. From a revenue perspective as
well from a TV rights perspective, there's very few games
that you can't watch on TV now streaming right, all
(12:46):
the above, right, And so it's so big Omaha's this year.
You know, the crowds, the number of people there, the
number of people of the viewership, and everything that went
with it was unreal. So why wouldn't it be? In
My question would be why wouldn't it be? And it's
you know, you asking the questions. Yeah, I think it's
it's it's it's going to happen. I truly do.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Let me get your thoughts on the long warns.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
First of all, that decision with the three pitchers choosing
to come back, how big is that. I know it
had to be happy about that, but but but to
hear that a rugar Rio, Ohas is coming back. To
hear that you know, all three of the guys are
coming back is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Anytime you start in the middle part of your field,
you know that. And on the mound it's the biggest place.
We just got through talking about Coastal and their success
and it was created off the mound and has been
for years at the University of Texas, and it's a
great place to start, I'm sure for for coach.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Slash and his staff.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The day that all three decided that they were coming back,
that's winning a recruiting battle, you know what I mean.
In all honesty, recruiting gets major League Baseball and the
value of why you can and why you should stay
and what you're going to benefit. And today there is
a tremendous benefit to stay in college baseball because I mean,
obviously you can finish your degree if you hadn't all ready.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Number two, you can reposition yourself professionally.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
At number three, you can put money in your pocket,
you know, to increase your value one hundred percent, and
and you're comfortable going to school pitching and playing or
whatever it might be, and you still get paid and
going to school. All those things that you know, used
to were so far out of the rem you couldn't
even think about that. And now to to keep those
(14:25):
players here goes back to what we just talked about,
just how far along college baseball is and where it's
headed that you can hold that type of quality of
player to stay here and to go to school and
pitch for it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's university again. Well, it's another option.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And the reason why I bring that up is when
I was on vacation, Lynn and I went to a
minor league game.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Of course we're going to go to a baseball game
and on vacation, but she likes it as well.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So in my hometown we went to see the Greensborog
Grasshoppers play the Winston Salem Dash. And the reason I
bring that up is the dash who Or a White
Sox affiliate had. I'm sitting and I'm watching Braid Montgomery
Yeah play and Braidan was Announcedandy college player but right
now he's it's a business, and he's toiling at the
high A level right now going and so there's you
(15:11):
have one more opportunity to earn some money and increase
your value while still staying in school.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Like several of these long worn guys are doing well.
You get looks. There are guys that professional baseball. You
and I've had this conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Professional baseball, I think ten years ago, six years ago
would never publicly say this became out. S, we're gonna dead.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Some of these college guys developed these guys. The programs
are good, the coaching is good.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You have the nutrition, strength, conditioning, all these different things
that can teach.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
A guy to help a god develop.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So if you sign an eighteen nineteen year old kid
a ten million or four million dollar contract and he
flops because he's not completely ready physically or emotionally, well
let's let's let him go to University of Texas. Let's
see what he looks like in three years when he's
twenty one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And hasn't had to deal with fifteen hour hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And then all of a sudden, your your investment becomes
a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's never a sure thing.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Right, but it becomes, in my opinion, professional baseball's investment
becomes a little bit more secure because they're getting Look,
I'm not just because I was a college coach, but
if you look at the how many people are on
the staff now and their roles and each day they
can play to develop a young player is unreal. And
the number of practices we get to have now, I mean,
(16:27):
just to me, it is it is Mynor League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Quick word from you on the passing of John Bible,
who many people knew, great, great great umpire. Bob Lamalco,
who he knew for years, is greatly ill right now
in Kansas City. But I know John Bible is a
guy you knew very very well.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I knew really well as a player as a coach,
you know, I don't know if most people know. You know,
his real job was he was a professor at Southwest
Texas State and Texas State, and I saw him more
on the baseball field than I ever saw him Marcus
or on campus, but certainly from He's in the Hall
of Fame of college umpires in my mind, and he
(17:08):
was a hall of fame guy. And look, John and
I had many of heated discussions, which is just part
of the business of being an unparty coach. But sorry
for everybody's loss, including mine, yours, and everybody that knew me.
He was a tremendous person, a tremendous man, and a
tremendous umpire and a part of the University of Texas
baseball history.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
No doubt appreciate you coming by today. Always enjoyed it.
I enjoy seeing you and Cameron.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
First time we were in the studio together in twenty
eight days.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
How about that. Let me tell you what you've got.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
What's the countdown to when you really get busy?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Absolutely, thanks Tiving. That's Tierge. We'll be back to wrap
it up on thirteen under the Zone.
From the greater Waco, USA, and in studio with us
is our own baseball analyst Ty Harrington. What did we
correct to say Woodway or Hewett, which was more correct
about where you actually wood grew up in Woodway.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, in Woodway, we weren't.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Before Chip and Jojo got ahold of it way before
maybe before Chip and Jojo were born.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm not sure yet, but that's that's debatable. But uh, yeah,
it was. Woodway was a much smaller town then. Obviously,
I think we were a when we first moved there.
My dad was from Waco, Okay, so he grew up
on east side of Waco on Franklin Washington Street, which
is close to downtown.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And of course Woodway is the southwestern that's off the
southwestern edge of what.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, and at the time was a little country school.
When we got there, was like a three A school
and by the time I got out of there, we
were four A, which you remember five A was the
biggest YEP at that point in time in the ADS,
and uh we were at four A school and h
obviously now it's a six A school and just has
grown and happens to be the UH state champion in
(01:07):
high school baseball this year. As I was just texting
Eddie corn Bloom, who's the head coach at Midway, and
I've got your uh people won't I won't be able
to describe it right. Craig Way does such an immaculate
job when he keeps scores of games on the broadcast,
well on on his if I if one of these
(01:27):
stage you need to put Cameron, you need to we
have a camera here. What it looks like. I mean,
it is truly, it is truly a work of art.
I mean I've worked with a lot of you know,
play by play guys, and it is not this clean,
and it is not this graphic. And it is and
and so everybody knows every game that Craig does has
(01:49):
that type of uh graphics to it, and so that
he can keep scores. The point being Eddie korn Bloom,
who's a good friend of mine and the head coach
at Midway High School, that is going to be his souvenir.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Then he's going to put Wall. Well, I'm honored that
he would attack. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
No, I mean, look, I just saw him at coaching school.
I was in San Antonio. You were too, I was there.
I was there for work for Marsha mcclennan because now
I'm in the public unity space and business insurance. And
went down there to meet with some ads and some
other people and saw Eddie and had a great visit
with him. And so I will go back to God'stown
next week waiting him, and I will go down there
(02:29):
and hand us off to him, and he is plenty
excited about it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I was saying that my my score book is not
as clean. It's basically what I gathered from that that
is correct.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, hey, got many sugar cuts.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
To be fair to both of us.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
First of all, to be fair to you, you are
in the norm where people have regular score books.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I've bought his car book. Yeah, a lot of a
lot of broadcasts.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, so many many have that sort of thing. Because I, uh, first,
if Texas played the maximum amount of games I think
in two thousand and two they played seventy two games
and went fifty seven and fifteen. And if they played
seventy some odd games, even that is less than half
(03:15):
of a minor league season.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
So I didn't feel like I needed a book.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Also, because I missed several games early in the season
with basketball conflicts, so out of let's see in the
LONGRNGE finished thirty above five hundred. Whether the fIF forty three,
forty three and thirteen, I think it was one. I
think they were forty three and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And was last year?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, what was the rect forty four and fourteen? Forty
four and fourteen? I said forty three, thirteen, forty four
and fourteen. All right, so that's fifty eight games out
of the fifty eight. I think I called forty seven
of those because we had early season basketball conflicts, so
forty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So forty seven games.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I didn't feel like I needed a whole book for
That's what I do is my son Andy, who puts
together all my football and basketball charts, does one for
baseball like that, and I like it because it's pretty vivid.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
To me.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It makes for pretty quick recall when I'm calling, say
a fly ball hit to the gap in left center,
and I see that defensive chart right in front of me.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Who's trying to get to the ball, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So that's the reasoning behind it. It's for ease of broadcasts.
It's just like I tell people other broadcasters when we visit,
when I say things like, well, they said, can you
take a look at my chart and tell me I mean,
and that's not like I said. Let me ask you
one thing is does this help you in the best
(04:40):
way possible describe what you're seeing, what's coming out of
the box. And they said yes. I said, then you're fine.
That's all you need, you know. Jeff hackstono does Texas
Texas baseball and men's basketball. Years ago he was doing
oral Roberts and Hacks came up to me during the
NCAA Tournament basketball tournament and wanted to look at a chart.
I showed it to him and I said, let me
(05:01):
see yours. He says, now, I can't show that, So
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Let me see.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
He goes, it's just a legal pad. I'm like, so,
so he shows me the legal pad where he's got
the stuff down, and I said, does that help you
get it right? So we're people listening when it's come
out of the box.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Sounds right?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
He said, yeah, thissen, Then that's all you need. It's
whatever helps you do the best job.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Let's just say that two things.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
When Cameron and I have worked together, I'm not looking
over his book to take two notes and let's just
say when you and I are working together, you're not
exactly looking over your right shoulder at my book either.
And you have and what people don't know too, is
you have a computer in front of you when you're
(05:47):
doing the Texas games, absolutely that has information on it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Staff monitors for both of us. We have those, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And then you historically will have at least one, maybe
two electronic devices, have a laptop and an iPad running
at the same time watching other games. And then along
with that to our left back left is a TV
screen that is the streaming service now but was Longhorn
(06:15):
Network that is showing the game live that you're that
you're calling, you should.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Come into the football broadcast BOOST sometimes because what we've
got in there is there's a TV to aur above left,
immediately there's another one directly below it. Then I've got
the laptop, I've got the iPad, and then Roger has
an iPad there. So we a lot of times we'll
have there'll be six games going on and people said, well,
(06:41):
how do you concert You're concentrating on the game you want,
but you're keeping track of other things going off.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So if people are wondering where often you're going well
down in up in Waco.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'm watching it, got it, I've got it on there
as well. Ty hearing is we need a break when
we come back when we talk some college bayball, some
off season stuff coming up when we continue on thirteen.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Under the Zone.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They were an outstanding ban of the early eighties. In
the early eighties, it was Ty Harrington's Uh, that was that?
That was your That was right your wheelhouse in the eighties. No,
I was, But.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know, always reminds me of summertime. I don't know
that I really ever listened in the winter time. You
listen to it year round, I know, but for me
it kind of resonate summertime on that. But for your
just so you know, I made my daughter sit down
with me, my middle daughters sit down with me two
weeks ago, and I made her plow through the making
(07:38):
of led Zeppelin.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Shed that she did not. She did not. She did.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It was not like sitting down with your son watching
a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It did not. It did not didn't take as well,
didn't did not land that one, which she liked.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The What Just premier last Friday, and part two will
be this Friday. On a HBO Max the documentary on
Billy Joel what should be better Chance, Better Chance? There's
really really good. I hadn't had a chance see because
they had to go to San Antonio last Friday at
that point. Yeah, it's HBO maxis suppose he's gonna do it? Okay,
let me uh get your thoughts on a couple of things.
(08:16):
We talked all the way through up to the National
Championship Series, uh about the teams that were that were
playing in Omahaia and the final analysis when the dust
settles and all that. I don't think much of anybody
was really surprised. We saw LSU early in the season,
knew they were really really good, and they kind of
went through a little bump and then they kind of
pulled it out and got it back together and then.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
They were a real force.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
But you had said even back in February, keep an
eye on Coastal watch Coastal Carolina. They they're they're a
much more complete team than folks realize because teams that
are out of whatever G five as they say, football
Group of five, football NOLG six.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Uh are they were deeper.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Than most teams that would come out of that kind
of mid major or range, and they obviously proved it
by going all the way to the national championships here.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, they were deep on the mound. Yeah, and that
and that was the piece. When you go back and
you watch h or you go back and look at
their statistics even until I think, tell a story of
comprehensive story of what they were able to accomplish on
the mound and in the field what they were also
able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Two weeks ago, I went to Auburn, Alabama with a
buddy mind early Ingram Ingham Ready Makes and Kwan Cosby
and I went on a really short.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Day and a half golf trip.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, we got to sit down with hal Bard and
then we also got to sit down with but Thompson,
the head coach of Aulburn, and had lunch with them
and sat down and talked about baseball. Was you can
imagine the conversations were going back and forth. The reason
why I tell you that is because Coastal had to
had to go to Auburn to beat Auburn. And if
you go back and you watch those games, the two
(09:50):
games that they won, their pitching in their defense was unregaler. Yeah,
that Stellar's right, because stellar means that's it. You don't
get any you don't get any better than what it was.
And they were able to accomplish that on the road
and a hostile playing the in an sec facility and
and get them to the one place everybody wants to go,
(10:12):
and that was Omaha, and they were able to play
their best game at the biggest moments. And that's why
for me going through there and watching them, they were
so clean on the mound. They didn't create innings with
their off the mound, and they did not create innings
in their defensive play. And if you can do that,
then you basically got to score for three and a
half four runs a game to try to win it,
(10:33):
you know, try to win a game or a series.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So how cool is it that for the first time ever,
the Texas Long Words are going to play the Coastal
Carolina shoan to Clears there in the event at they
can Park in Houston next year.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah. I saw that just yesterday. I guess it got
other shots. I saw an email set out. That's exciting.
I thought. I think UTSA was in there, Ole Miss
was in there. Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
At Ohio, Ohio State a very similar teams, with the
exception of UTSA to who was in Army to last
year at one point in time that played in there,
Ohio State, Ole Miss and text that all had played
there before. And so yeah, I think most coaches would
tell you, and you've heard Jim talk coach slash and
then go talk about this before, if you can get
(11:13):
into tournament play early in the year, not play on
somebody else's ballpark, and if you can get into a
facility where it's seventy two and sunny, even though in
Houston sometimes they turn their heat and it's colder.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's cold in there sometimes as you know.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But at Arrington, anytime you can get into indoor facility,
you know you're gonna play, and you know you're not
gonna play on somebody else's field in their crowd, and
then it's a neutral site. So from an RPI perspective
and or competition perspective, it is ideal.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, and I think it does make good. Now let
me ask you this. This is.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I thought about this because of something Vick Schaefer said.
The Texas women are playing in an event in Las
Vegas in November Thanksgiving what we called the Legends era,
and it's quite a field of four and it's going
to expand the six next year. But UCLA duke in
South Carolina. The other teams in Texas will play Ucla first,
(12:09):
and they'll play they could wind up playing South Carolina
in a non conference game, so to speak. But a
big component of that is there's an nil component that
goes back to players.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Can you see college baseball doing similar? Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, look you, I think all three of us
sitting in here today, and you and I being older
than Cameron obviously has seen where college baseball was and
where college baseball is today. From a revenue perspective as
well from a TV rights perspective, there's very few games
that you can't watch on TV now streaming right, all
(12:46):
the above, right, And so it's so big Omaha's this year.
You know, the crowds, the number of people there, the
number of people of the viewership, and everything that went
with it was unreal. So why wouldn't it be? In
My question would be why wouldn't it be? And it's
you know, you asking the questions. Yeah, I think it's
it's it's it's going to happen. I truly do.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Let me get your thoughts on the long warns.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
First of all, that decision with the three pitchers choosing
to come back, how big is that. I know it
had to be happy about that, but but but to
hear that a rugar Rio, Ohas is coming back. To
hear that you know, all three of the guys are
coming back is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Anytime you start in the middle part of your field,
you know that. And on the mound it's the biggest place.
We just got through talking about Coastal and their success
and it was created off the mound and has been
for years at the University of Texas, and it's a
great place to start, I'm sure for for coach.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Slash and his staff.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The day that all three decided that they were coming back,
that's winning a recruiting battle, you know what I mean.
In all honesty, recruiting gets major League Baseball and the
value of why you can and why you should stay
and what you're going to benefit. And today there is
a tremendous benefit to stay in college baseball because I mean,
obviously you can finish your degree if you hadn't all ready.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Number two, you can reposition yourself professionally.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
At number three, you can put money in your pocket,
you know, to increase your value one hundred percent, and
and you're comfortable going to school pitching and playing or
whatever it might be, and you still get paid and
going to school. All those things that you know, used
to were so far out of the rem you couldn't
even think about that. And now to to keep those
(14:25):
players here goes back to what we just talked about,
just how far along college baseball is and where it's
headed that you can hold that type of quality of
player to stay here and to go to school and
pitch for it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's university again. Well, it's another option.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And the reason why I bring that up is when
I was on vacation, Lynn and I went to a
minor league game.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Of course we're going to go to a baseball game
and on vacation, but she likes it as well.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So in my hometown we went to see the Greensborog
Grasshoppers play the Winston Salem Dash. And the reason I
bring that up is the dash who Or a White
Sox affiliate had. I'm sitting and I'm watching Braid Montgomery
Yeah play and Braidan was Announcedandy college player but right
now he's it's a business, and he's toiling at the
high A level right now going and so there's you
(15:11):
have one more opportunity to earn some money and increase
your value while still staying in school.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Like several of these long worn guys are doing well.
You get looks. There are guys that professional baseball. You
and I've had this conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Professional baseball, I think ten years ago, six years ago
would never publicly say this became out. S, we're gonna dead.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Some of these college guys developed these guys. The programs
are good, the coaching is good.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You have the nutrition, strength, conditioning, all these different things
that can teach.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
A guy to help a god develop.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So if you sign an eighteen nineteen year old kid
a ten million or four million dollar contract and he
flops because he's not completely ready physically or emotionally, well
let's let's let him go to University of Texas. Let's
see what he looks like in three years when he's
twenty one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And hasn't had to deal with fifteen hour hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And then all of a sudden, your your investment becomes
a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's never a sure thing.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Right, but it becomes, in my opinion, professional baseball's investment
becomes a little bit more secure because they're getting Look,
I'm not just because I was a college coach, but
if you look at the how many people are on
the staff now and their roles and each day they
can play to develop a young player is unreal. And
the number of practices we get to have now, I mean,
(16:27):
just to me, it is it is Mynor League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Quick word from you on the passing of John Bible,
who many people knew, great, great great umpire. Bob Lamalco,
who he knew for years, is greatly ill right now
in Kansas City. But I know John Bible is a
guy you knew very very well.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I knew really well as a player as a coach,
you know, I don't know if most people know. You know,
his real job was he was a professor at Southwest
Texas State and Texas State, and I saw him more
on the baseball field than I ever saw him Marcus
or on campus, but certainly from He's in the Hall
of Fame of college umpires in my mind, and he
(17:08):
was a hall of fame guy. And look, John and
I had many of heated discussions, which is just part
of the business of being an unparty coach. But sorry
for everybody's loss, including mine, yours, and everybody that knew me.
He was a tremendous person, a tremendous man, and a
tremendous umpire and a part of the University of Texas
baseball history.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
No doubt appreciate you coming by today. Always enjoyed it.
I enjoy seeing you and Cameron.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
First time we were in the studio together in twenty
eight days.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
How about that. Let me tell you what you've got.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
What's the countdown to when you really get busy?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Absolutely, thanks Tiving. That's Tierge. We'll be back to wrap
it up on thirteen under the Zone.
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