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July 14, 2025 • 20 mins
We hear from SEC commissioner Greg Sankey
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks again to Rich Clark, the executive director of the
College Football Playoff, for joining us. We wanted to have
him on and that was the window where we could
get it. And part of it is because of a
big part of what Greg Sankee, the commission in the SEC,
talked about today and was asked about in his opening
State of the Conference address, if you will, and news

(00:22):
conference that followed up. Sankee, just to summarize very quickly
said that he and the Big Ten Commissioner Tony Pettiti,
and I just asked Rich Clark about have spoken spoke
four out of five days last week, and he acknowledged
that right now, perhaps the SEC and the Big Ten
might be on slightly different sides a different view coming

(00:44):
out of their spring meetings. The Big Ten is favoring
a college Football Playoff model for the future that rewards
conferences with guaranteed spots and play in games to determine them.
But the SEC coaches favor the sixteen team four, the
five plus eleven model where it's five conference champions, the SEC,

(01:07):
the Big Ten, the ACC, the Big Twelve And who
am I leaving out SEC, ACC.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Big Ten, Big Twelve? ACC?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Did I say ACC? ACC? Big Ten, SEC, Big twelve.
I'm leaving somebody out. Oh well, well, I guess the
PAC twelfth could possibly count once they get back to that,
and it also includes Notre Dame if they qualify, So
it's that plus the five plus eleven model is the

(01:40):
way that that would work. But the Big Ten plays
none caught nine conference games. The SEC plays eight conference games,
and so that's kind of where they are right now.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
So let's let's listen.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
This is the commissioner of the SEC from this morning
here in Atlanta, here inside the College Football Hall of
Fame where the SEC Media Days are going on, and
he had his opening address, and he made some very
poignant and touching remarks about the flood victims from the
Texas Hill Country, talked about that and some other folks
that passed as well. But he also then after that

(02:18):
went on to some comments that he had with regard
to the questions that were put to him about the
future of the SEC and the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
If you do have a question, please trais your hand.
We have Emma, Annie and Nathan. We'll get a microphone
to you if you please stand. If you're able, I
give your name an affiliation and we have time for
a few questions. So Commissioner, we'll start over here on
our left on the aisle. Yeah, Brook's awsome with the
on side network. Coach our commissioner.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Every time, it's good in practice. Yeah, every time.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Every one of these coaches talk about the house versu
insta of a settlement.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
They referred so listening to.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
The advice of their lawlawyers and they're administraighters. I'm curious
if you guys have any meetings as a lead to
help your teams kind of see this course or to
continue to your metaphorm on this there.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Yeah, we have water breaks if you will along the
marathon course. If those are meetings, we provided updates leading
into decisions. And the difficulty for us is you cannot
implement the settlement until there is a settlement. I've used
a subgroup of coaches. We actually send a note out

(03:35):
to gather our coaches for another educational setting next week.
We had video conferences with athletics directors, presidents, and chancellors.
Last week. When I was here for the college football
Playoff National Championship game, Atlanta was kind of lonely because
I didn't have a team, but spend well over an

(03:55):
hour on a video conference with our women's basketball coaches.
We've done the same with our men's basketball coach. Use
our meeting cycle regularly. The fact that change was coming,
I think was well presented. The elements that change that
would be central to a settlement, I think that was
well presented. It is the intricacies of implementation where we

(04:18):
are running rapidly in the midst of the race to
make sure we provide the most relevant and most current information.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
And some of that's kind of time bound.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
By working through a process with the plainliffs and with
the Court.

Speaker 7 (04:33):
Commissioner, we'll go in the center land path path forward
from Sports Illustrated. First record, appreciate the remembrance of Bob Holt.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Well done.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Secondly, the.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
Clear public disagreement between the College Sports Commission and the
collective Association about what the rules seem to be. Do
you have an opinion on that or how are we
going to rectify that?

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Well, we from the College Sports Commission think that we're
operating consistent with the settlement terms. We'll have the right
kind of communication with the authors of the letter and
communicate and educate on why we think we had the
right perspective to begin with a commissioner.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
We'll go over to our right hand side far out.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Hello, Greg David, clinical with the Charleston Posting career.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
What do you anticipate having the format of the twenty
twenty six football schedule finalist? First of all, I spent
a long weekend in Charleston a few weeks ago, and
it was my first time to walk around downtown, visit
Fort Sumter, played Bolls Bay, in experienced Foley Beach. So
I didn't buy a newspaper. I was there that was
four days away, So I owe you.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
I've been careful about giving dates.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
I've said repeatedly. I learned during COVID that you want
to use your time. It won't linger terribly much longer.
We have to make decisions about the twenty six season
and adjust if we're going to go to nine games
and there have to be games removed or rescheduled, and
if we stay at AD probably a little bit easier

(06:13):
on that part of the logistics. Once we make a
decision in the conference office, we're pretty ready to go.
If you go back to when we made our last decision,
we were in Destin, I.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Think two weeks later.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Our opponents out and shortly thereafter we were prepared with
dates and site.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Sort of thing. Okay, we'll go back here in this intersection.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
Mike Griffith, the Atlanta Durtal Constitution Dognation Commissioner. You've talked
about the differences in the playoff models, and a lot
of people have speculated on what's best for college football.
When you talk about best, what would be some of
the bullet points that you want to get out of
the ideal college football playoff format?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Should it expand to sixteen teams?

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Well, you're binding me to a sixteen team playoff, But
I'm going to mic walk you back.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
So I'm on record.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Of participating in a decision process that twelve was the
right direction, and that took years, plenty of ups and downs.
As I said in the middle, is messy in a marathon.
It was messy in that consideration, I think it worked well.
Like some of the changes happening around us that may
create some competitive balance.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Raised the question of expanding.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
I've always been always been a fan of there are
no allocations.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Like take the top eight.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Back in twenty nineteen when people were talking about expanding
take the top twelve, I was an advocate for that,
in fact, went back through with colleagues this spring. I
could take the top fourteen, top sixteen. We have agreed,
and I think last week there was some misunderstanding communicated

(07:57):
about a memorandum of understanding. That memor memorandum of understanding,
the top five.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Conference champions have a role.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
So that's unless you're going to go tear up the MoU,
which maybe some other people want to do because of
their concerns about the decision making. Your authority very clearly
in that memoranda understanding is granted to the combination of
the SEC and Big ten. Ultimately we have to use
that authority with great wisdom and discretion.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
But unless people want to tear it up, we're going to.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Have five plus seven, five plus nine, five plus eleven.
As I understand, you know, doubling down. So that was
one of the phrases last week. That's part of the
gambling experience, as I understand, And you always want to
have a really good set of a good set of cards.
You want to have a good hand to play, right,

(08:49):
and I think we have the best hand to play.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
So we're going to operate consistent with the MoU.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
There's an allocation of those five spots, and I guess
we'll continue to debate whether expansion and beyond twelve is.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
Appropriate for the college football playoff. We have time for
a few more. We'll start in front of me commissioner at.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Time, Great Tom Murphy, part fund democratic is in and
I also appreciate the treatment too. When the fullmat for
twenty twenty six is set at could it possibly be
another two year fixed or would you like to be
a longer term?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
And does you just not to have momentum right now?

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I generally like to get out of the football scheduling
decision questions right. So that suggests a longer term would
be better. One of our learning experiences from our expansion
to fourteen and we had two years and then twelve years.
And our discussion now is perhaps look ins every so

(09:50):
often would be wise. So while you might want to
answer it once and for all, I do think there's
an expectation that will at least have a look and
opportunit unity should the schedule change.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Okay, we'll go here to our Kirker.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
Court balls from the Houston Chronicle. Great, given the long
history or revenue sharing, now that we're like two weeks
in what's been the early reports from your members as
far as any concerns, complaints, circumstances.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
There's consensus about concerns and complaints. How's that.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah, it's anything new is going to create questions.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's not.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Constant and overwhelming from all sixteen. But it's a continuing process,
and I think the freak out factor is a little
bit high, if you will. In other words, somebody writes
something and people freak out, that doesn't mean it's accurate.
All the cautions about Hey, you know, the Twitter versu
isn't maybe the best resource all the time for information

(10:58):
or ex versus.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's known.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
There's a great deal of trust that we've built with
our members, and so we can walk through questions where
we don't have answers.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
We'll go seek those.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Keep in mind that we're still in the process of
implementing policies and that's defined in the settlement with the
plainiffs and potentially the court oversight, so there's a process
to be involved. I do think it's a reminder of
the importance of continuing communication, and as I indicated another answer,
we'll keep adding points of communication as we go through

(11:33):
this change. It's one of those again COVID lessons that
you have to change your operating rhythm. So maybe rather
than quarterly meetings or in monthly meetings, rather than monthly
meetings or in biweekly meetings to either give an option
for questions or conversation or provide information.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
We'll go right over here on the second area taken room.

Speaker 11 (11:56):
Money commission George, touchdown in the Ant Kingdom. I listened
with some interest to what commissioned your Mark and Scott
dray percent last week in Frisco about developing their brand internationally.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
They went as far to.

Speaker 11 (12:10):
See that they were looking at playing multiple games, not
just in bumbling about side, in more than once more.
As the revenue increases in growth and revenue become more
and more important to conference. We've talked about this before.
What are your views on the SEC expanding the brand internationally.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
George, I'll go back and share some thoughts I've probably
shared over time. One is the strength of this conference
is based in our communities. That may not be the
same for others, but you look at the sixteen cities
that host our universities. The football stadium is the infrastructure
and what happens on.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
A game day weekend.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
It's absolutely magnificent, second to none. With that said, this
may build some of my credibility with you. I sat
once with the Lord Mayor of Dublin to talk about
playing football games involving SEC teams.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
We've had interest.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
When you take a football stadium with one hundred thousand
fans and the economics around that football game being played
in that stadium in that community, and then you transfer
those someplace else. It's a lot easier to do that
if program's attendance is twenty thirty thousand of their football

(13:25):
stadiums that size. So there are some economic realities that
weigh against just doing that. Personally, I'd welcome that chance,
and we'll continue.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
To explore opportunities.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
But I'll go back to the importance of college football
in our region and our states and in our communities,
and the foundation and strength of our conference fundamentally is
built on those communities. I also think we do pretty
good job internationally on our own with just drawing interest
because Gaune, it's compelling.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
We are not boring, and Dull I can tell you
that commissure.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
We'll go over on the left Nile Heather Dinnis.

Speaker 12 (14:08):
With ESPN when you talk about the Big Ten and
the SEC having that control over the future format, what
will it take for those two weeks to come to
a consensus and avoid a stalemate, And how close are
you and Tony Penttiti to doing that?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Well, I would never give away how close we are
to doing something in a meeting. I think Tony and
I spoke probably four out of five days last week.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
I think Jim and I.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Either talked on the phone or communicated three out of
five days, three out.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Of five days last week.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
So we had a different view coming out of Destin
around the notion of allocations. If you will, and I
think you'll probably hear that again from our coaches. The
Big Ten has a different view. That's fine. We have
a twelve team playoff five conference champions that could stay

(15:08):
if we can't agree. I think there's this notion that
there has to be some magic moment and something has
to happen.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
With expansion and it has to be forced.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
I think we want to use when you're given authority,
you want to be responsible and using that authority, and
I think both of us are prepared to do so
in the upfront responsibility And this may be where some
of The confusion lies is we have the ability to
present a format or format ideas, gather information, see if
we can all agree within that room. We don't need unanimity,

(15:40):
and ultimately if not, there's a level of authority granted
to the Big ten and SEC together.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
But there's a lot to that.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
It's not you just show up and pound your fist
and something happens. I hope that that type of narrative
can be reduced. But we'll keep talking. We all talk
a lot, probably too much sometimes.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Right our commissioner will take one final question over to
our left.

Speaker 13 (16:06):
Commissioner, David Romsey from Front Office Sports. You mentioned private
equity in your opening remarks, and we know you came
out against several pee back super League proposals last year.
Moving forward, is the SEC open to exploring ANYPE money
or other capital injection that's coming into the conference?

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Think are two things in there.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
So my comments about other ideas, and they're embedded subtly
is what I've not seen is the in depth analysis
of these other ideas that's provided to our everyday operation.
That's one of those disappointing realities for me. So we
have to do that internally, Like how much money flows
out of the college system into the financial backers. What

(16:48):
are the IFFs that are needed if this can be achieved,
and if that can be achieved, and if that can
be achieved, then they might be able to achieve what
they're talking about.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Some of these proposals, you always see the most positive outcome.
And when you ask, well, like, what's the downside.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Of what if you don't hit all of those if
mark all of those mile markers? What then happens? And
there's not a lot of answers provided what we're dealing
with is not like a law school class hypothesis or
a finance project for somebody's MBA. This is real life
and we're seeing that happen over the last two weeks.

(17:27):
So that's my observation and just clarity on the first one.
I've had those meetings, I've had outreach on a continuing basis.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
They bubble up from time to time.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
You know, the question, what problem you're trying to solve them,
what's the substance of the solution, what's the downside? What
if you don't achieve all of those mile markers?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
For us?

Speaker 5 (17:50):
I had a conversation with someone in our membership about
outside financing ideas.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
As late as last week.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
We have been probably two and a half three years
into visits with banks, with private equity, with venture capital.
I mean you could go down the range private capital.
That's another phrase that's been used. That's not been the
right direction for us. We've not seen the concept that works.

(18:22):
It doesn't mean we won't consider opportunities. If there are
opportunities for mutual benefit, those would peak our interests.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
But the notion of just jumping to.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Something because there's a pot of money there seems an
uninformed direction and simply taking propositions where there's not the
kind of clarity around what if you don't meet your
high end predictions, what's left then?

Speaker 6 (18:49):
I think those are things that are continued away. Have
we on our mind.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Commissioner Sanche, thank you for your time.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Okay, thank you, we'll see you. I'm certain around and
I hope it's a productive week. You have needs, we
have volunteers and staff prepared to be of assistant, so
we'll see you shortly.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
With our first coach of the week, and those coaches
included Shane Beemer of South Carolina also Brian Kelly of LSU.
In the morning session, and in the afternoon session, Lane
Kiffin there with ole Miss and Clark Row with Vanderbilt.

(19:28):
So those were the coaches and programs on stage today.
The Texas Longhorns. Of course, we'll be on stage tomorrow.
And tomorrow we'll have our annual sit down conversation with
head coach de Sarkeishan exclusively here on this station in
terms of the one on one interviews for the Greater

(19:50):
Austin area, So we'll have that tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
We got more comment.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
We're not going with Inconceivable today tomorrow because of all
the stuff we have going on here. We got some
other topics to get to college football. And by the way,
we're in town for the All Star Game. We're in
town with the All Star Game going on. I don't
think we have any plans to be at the game.
We did all go to it last year, but no

(20:16):
Inconceivable today or tomorrow on the program. And of course Wednesday,
I'll be traveling back, so we'll bring Inconceivable back in
On Thursday.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
We'll continue from

Speaker 1 (20:26):
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