Why Rory McIlory ignored the media...AGAIN...and WCWS and Super Regional previews

Craig Way and Cameron Parker get you over the midweek hump on Wednesday's show! They discuss a variety of topics, including the NHL and NBA Finals. Rory McIlroy's comments about why he skipped out on the media at the PGA Championship. Plus, a look at the WCWS and Super Regionals.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the program here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred the zone we call it thirteen
hundred the zone for shorts. Glad to have you with us.
My name is Craig Way. Thank you so much for
spending part of your day with us. Always glad to
be able to Hope you're Wednesday's going. Okay. I always
say this on Wednesdays. If Wednesday is indeed the hump

(00:22):
day for you, as it is for any of us,
hopefully you get over that hump and head down hill
toward the weekend. Okay. There are those for whom Wednesday
is Friday. Good on you, Good for you, and hope
you enjoy the next couple of days or whatever is

(00:45):
off after that. And for those of you who's work
week begins on Wednesday, well I hope it gets off
to a good start. As always, we're pleased to have
you with us, and we includes, of course, the producer
of the program, Cameron D.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Parker.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
The D on the birth certificate is for his middle name,
Dallas Yes, named in honor of his father's favorite pro
football team, and it became Cameron's favorite pro football team
until he became disenchanted with them still his favorite football team.
You just not sure where he stands in terms of
how vested he wants to be.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
And then it's kind of hard, isn't it right now?
Good afternoon?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
And by the way, it's kind of hard, isn't right now,
because we're kind of in a kind of in a
nether zone right now. It's between OTAs and and and
training camp start and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
So it's pretty easy for you to clock out on
the Cowboys, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Good afternoon? Well, when your favorite team's playing in the
NBA finals and Texas Softballs in the Women's College with
the Series finals, Yeah, it's you know, it's pretty easy
the clock out. Plus you got the US Open next
week and stuff. So you know, I've I've eventually been
clocked out for a year, and I think some Cowboys
fans have been clocked out for longer than that. So
they can do it, and I certainly can do it

(01:56):
as well. But you know, you know that once in
a while, you know, not vocations with otis a lot
of Michael Parsons stuff going on right now that I
don't care about, because who cares. But everything I've heard
so far about Schottenheimer, and picking's like, okay, you know,
it's not as stupid as stuff that McCarthy used to say.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
So we'll see. You know, I think you can be
a little.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Bit more optimistic this year, but again, worry about how
this defense will stack up. And again I don't even
know the number one running back is so m hm
as Defante Williams, maybe I don't know's. It's a tough spot,
but a tough spot, but not so hard at all.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
You do have some concern about where they stand with
Micah Parsons, don't you know?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Because it'll be the same way that Jerry re signed
every other superstar on this team. But wait to the
very last second because it will create as much media
attention as possible and get as much discourse from US
and ESPN and Fox and every other talking head, and
then magically, a week before the season starts, Michael Parsons

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will get his contract.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you have any desire to Let's let's say you
didn't have to spend any of your own money, but
you would have to grind it out, work pretty hard
to be sent to Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, or,
as Jerry likes Oxnard. Would you be up for that

(03:23):
if you had the opportunity to cover cowboys training him
and you had to work it, and you had to
cover it pretty extensively, even as distasteful as you find
them to be right now to you, you would you
accept that assignment?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, I think that would be a fun assignment because
I you know, it seems like a lot of meeting
members go out there and they seem to enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I mean, I'm sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
One Thousand Oaks when they were in Thousand Oaks, which
is just down the road from Oxnard, It's a few
miles when I went and this is the shows how
old I was nineteen eighty eight, eighty nine, last two
years the last year of the Tom Landry era and
the first year of the Jimmy Johnson era, the one

(04:06):
in fifteen season, the last year of time, like eighty
eight and eighty nine were the two years that I
went out there, and it was in Thousand Oaks where
it was had been in Thousand Oaks since like the
early sixties at cal Lutheran, and it was just kind
of a little shanger live. It was just kind of
out in the in the Canao valley and you get

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these nice breezes in the temperature we'd get into the
low to mid eighties during the day and it was
fun to be there. The two a day workouts in
the morning of the afternoon and I was told, you know,
I saw tex Shram one morning went out jogging and
asked where the media members.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I said, is he Jude chogging? He said, yeah, you
see that hill.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
There's like a pretty good little hill that called the
Canao Hill, and he goes. He jogs up to the
top of that every morning, pukes and then runs back
down and then has breakfast and gets his day going.
Every day. I was like, jogging, Yeah, grows up there,
throw up, come back down, and then go. But it was
not a and I'll never forget the first year that

(05:04):
I covered it.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I go a walk.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You'd walk to the dining hall at Cal Lutheran where
they you know, feed the team, and obviously it's an
NFL team, so that they're gonna feed.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Him very very well.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
They did so when they were here at Saint Ed's
fed well because you know, they're bringing in their own
food and all that other kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I go, I go over to the dining.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Hall, like the first day after the morning practice, and
I'm walking past the gym that had like its doors open,
open air, and I saw like it looked like a
basketball camp. And I stepped in there and looked, and
there was the immortal John Wooden conducting a basketball camp
in nineteen eighty eight, So that would have made him
seventy eight at the time. I think that's awesome. Yeah,

(05:46):
and he was out there still running. He lived to
be I think ninety nine. So it was, uh, yeah,
it was. It was really cool. So I, yes, I
enjoyed training camp. I didn't mind it. I didn't mind
it when it was here at Austin. I kind of
I could get hot, but I didn't. I didn't mind
when it was that Saint D's. Fortunately I did not
go when it was in wichital Falls, although it made

(06:07):
for great content for King of the Hill, you know,
when they would go up to the Cowboys training camp
there in wichital Falls and and so now now it's
you know, one.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Of the reasonings for it and not always being an
oxnared like you. Why was in Wichita Falls for a
pere just because of weather?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Oh? It was always some money deal grab for Jerry
because of San Antonio remembering the Alamo Dome, and they
did all that stuff. It was he could put it
in places to draw lots of fans after several years,
and Saint Eds of course, some of the players wrecking
the dorm that didn't help. It was yourination in the

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in the dorms. And there were other things because of
all that stuff. So then they moved it and there
was witchital Falls and San Antonio and San Antonio and
then Oxnard and now between Oxnart and Frisco. You know
that kind of thing, spreading the Gospel of j spreading
the hospital of Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So that's why I was all moved for there. But yes,
it was a fun assignment I did. I did like it.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I liked Ranger spring training in Poort, Charlotte, Florida. I
did that six straight years, like from eighty eight through
ninety three, covered Ranger spring training down there, So that
that was an awful lot of fun. So yeah, it's okay.
That would you would in terms of your media representation repertoire, uh,

(07:26):
that would be that would be a good thing for
you to get a chance to to cover sometime as
a Cowboys training camp, and and also because it's your
favorite team to see that the conflict that would you know,
boil inside of you, that that would be good to,
that would be good to just you know, take that
all in.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I don't know when, I when I if I'm there
for work, I lock in.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Okay, okay, So you wouldn't be like wearing a Cowboys
T shirt.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And jumping up and down the.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Baseball games where the team's gotten blasted and I'm not
on the air, you know, crying and say.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Tip the fire peers time to do it.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Afterwards, It's like, man, did they really lose that game?
That's pretty crazy. So you've got to work in this industry.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
You got to be fine. You got to find the
lot to be.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
You have to separate fan from from reporter. You do
have to do that, even if you're covering your favorite
team or whatever the team. If you're a broadcaster or
a play by play guy like myself and you you
are as well. But if you're broadcasting for a specific team,
you oote to yourself, you know it to your audience,

(08:36):
you know it to the team.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
To be able to.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know, separate that and be able to call the game. Yes, Uh,
you are a representative of the team and of the
you know, the radio network or whatever. But you have
a responsibility to your training and to your duty as
a reporter to talk about what's happening out there, the who, what, when,
word why. I've always felt very strongly.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Hey, Reggie Miller.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
You know, he's getting kind of a little bit of
flak for he was handing the Pacers, well, he handed
the Eastern Conference Finals trophy to the Pacers after they
had won it, and people like, how can you do both?
And I thought he was fine on the broadcast. I
didn't think he was very pro Indiana and very anti
New York throughout it. But I mean, when you have
these former players on the broadcast, at some point they're

(09:22):
going to have it. There's gonna be some sort of
connection to a team they're calling. Yeah, And I know
sometimes with play by play broadcasters, Craig and I think
you it's except for the number one, number two guys
like Joe Buck or Joe Davis, a lot of times
they can't call their alma matters, Alma maters college team games.

(09:43):
I've heard that before, where it's like this, I can't
call that game because I went to school there.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, And ESPN kind of has a policy there, but
they use it to Ben Herbie obviously calls them how
steak game every other day. Well, and and let me
just let me just say this, they use it the
bat Alabama, right.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
They use it to suit what their needs are at
the time. Meaning what I'm talking about here is sometimes
it's financial and it's and it's a matter of convenience.
When's the last time you saw an LSU game on
national TV where Ben McDonald wasn't on it.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
He was the other night they played Little Rock.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Some would say, hey, wasn't Keith Moreland working the games
at Texas?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Absolutely he was.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Uh. ESPN for several years sent him away from wherever
Texas was playing and him and Greg Mindell. And this
year Greg i think was sent up to Corvallis to
Oregon for the region. But Keith was put there in that.
Some of that is a convenience factor thing, uh, and
and a a financial consideration as well. Chris Burke, Tennessee,

(10:48):
I mean, uh, it it happens team You know how
many times is Terry Bradshaw you know, remember he presented
a trophy when the when the Steelers were Super Bowl.
I mean, it happens sometimes. It just it just works
out that way. And and and some people want, you know,

(11:09):
want their teams to win. I don't think there's any
big secret about that, but we you know, they if
you can keep your objectivity during the telecaster broadcast, it
doesn't matter which teams are doing. Now there will be
some who are representatives of the other side who would
say you can't do that. There's just there's just no way,

(11:31):
you know, how can how can kat Osterman be be
completely neutral? How can Amanda Scarborough do an A and
M softball game and be completely neutral after a while,
especially after a while if if you have been away

(11:51):
from the program for a while, Uh, it's it's probably
a little bit easier to do, but it's there. I'll
never forget my first game in the play by play
chair for Long Worn Football September of two thousand and two. Now,
this was after being the analyst for ten football and
nine basketball seasons with Bill Shooning. And so Bill leaves

(12:13):
after all one football and he goes to San Antonio
to be the voice of the Spurs, and I slide
over to the play by play chair, starting with the
one to o two basketball season. That following fall was
my first season in the play by play chair for
football for Texas. Their first game was it was against
North Texas, and I had several people go, hey, hey, hey,
you went to North Texas. How you feel about that?

(12:35):
And I said, you know what, yeah, I know where
my heart is on that. I said, also know where
my wallet is. Yeah, you're working for your employer, and
and and put it this way, Texas needed needed to
win over North Texas far more than North Texas needed
to win over Texas because if they had lost, that
would not have been it would have been, you know,

(12:56):
just the side of catastrophic for Texas. And they did
in the and they did in two thousand and four
when they played them, and they didn't the other time
that they played them. So you know, if you're a professional,
you do the things that you're supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
So it's as simple as that.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
All Right, We've got a lot of things to get
to on the program. We're gonna we'll talk about the
women's college world So game one is tonight Texas and Oklahoma. Also,
NHL Stanley Cup Finals Game one is tonight Edmonton and Florida.
Also Ahl Calder Cup Championship Series Game four tonight at

(13:37):
atb Center and Cedar Park, Texas Stars trying to even
up with the Abbotsford Canucks tonight. NBA Finals begin tomorrow
night between the Thunder.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
As we were talking about, there's baseball to discuss, and
I got quite a few golf notes to get into
as well as we get closer to the US next week.
We do have inconceivable this this hour, we do have
some fast food update on that. We also have also
some golf in there because it's just been an ongoing

(14:11):
soap opera this entire summer on the pro golf circuit.
So we've got a few items of that and a
couple other things, and as always, were open to your questions,
your comments, your thoughts. You need only access us via
the text line. You text the word Texas follow by
your question or comment to eight one five three zero.

(14:32):
So text the word Texas follow by your question of
comment to eight one five three zero. Standard messaging and
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Speaker 2 (14:45):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
So you mentioned the Western Conference files between the Stars
and Abbotsford. Yeah, do you know who is going to
be the representative of the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Who is Oh, do I know who the representative of
the Eastern is it? It's the Charlotte Checkers. Oh, the
Charlotte Checkers.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
So if it could be Charlotte in Texas in the
who's gonna go to the Calder Cup things?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
May have to may have to do that. Yeah, uh uh.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
When I grew up in Greensboro, there was a hockey
league called the Eastern Hockey League. It's not to be
confused with the e c h L now the East
Coast Hockey League, which is pretty much what double A
for uh and and and and even though it's called
e c h L, it's not just East Coast teams
and then the Idaho steel Heads in it and some
of the others. That's like the Stars double a. Uh,

(15:34):
there's there's other uh. It's it's like double A and uh.
But back when when, uh, when I was a kid
and used to growing up in North Carolina, I used
to go see the Greensburg Generals play a hiring.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
By the way, I believe the Greensborg Generals are. I
have a buddy, who's uh, who's a plying for that job?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Play by play for the Greensborg Generals. Okay uh.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
They started in the early sixties, and it was it
was like the high level of minor league hockey was
in the in the EHL, and there are trival was
the Charlotte Checkers.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And you would have some blood baths plights.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Even in the mid seventies, Winston Salem added a team,
the Polar Twins they called it. But the rivalry, even
though those towns are twenty five miles apart, wasn't It
wasn't the big deal. Greensboro's rival was always Charlotte and
back for they were rival cities. It was kind of
like a Dallas Houston kind of thing, and so they
always would go hammer and tong, you know, Charlotte much

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more of the upscale banking.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
City community.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Greensboro was textiles and tobacco and a little bit of
life insurance Jefferson Pilot and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
That you know.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
They that that was that was big. That's what I
grew up in. It was more of a blue collar
town city of about one hundred and fifty thousand, about
two hundred thousand now, and that's what it was. But
it also became known as Tournament because the A SEC
tournaments there for every year. Uh, the Greater Greensboro up
and golfing. They've had n c A swimming and diving there,
so they like they liked that moniker of being tournament town.

(17:09):
Uh as well, but that's a big rivalry. And and
except that Greensboro the hockey team is in the e
c h L. But the funny thing is their G
league team, the Swarm, is Charlotte's G League team.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
So they got greens Brother.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
They played at the Colley Jones spent some time, that's right. Yeah,
absolutely did.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Did you hear about the e c L the e
c HL broadcaster, I forget what team it was, but
he was calling a game. And this will remind you
of your time in Lubbock when a fan broke in
on the air to his press box, oh wow, and
started attacking him.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Wow wow. It happened like two weeks ago in some
in some playoff game.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I did not know that e c L e c
HL hockey. That's a while he was lubricated for.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Ye when the Austin Ice Bats used to play in
the Central Hockey League here and Bill showoning, Uh, you know,
he was really attached to a lot of those guys.
One of the players broke a guitar at his one
time or something. He used it as a hockey stick
or something, and he can always tell that story. Our
friend John and Danny works with ESPN. Putt it best

(18:14):
or no. It was actually Chuck Cooperstein what it's a
Mavericks movie. He said, that's a beer league, and a
lot of people said, yeah, pretty much is a beer
league for players in the fans. He used to play
out at the Travis County ex Post Center the Austin
Ice Bats.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So anyway, all right, we've got a lot to get to.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
You can text the program and we'll get to your
thoughts and some other topics as well. Here on this Wednesday,
a yacht rock Wednesday as well. I'm thirteen out of
the zone.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
It's the Craig Way shot with the voice of the
Texas Longhorns and Hall of Fame broadcast there Craig Way.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I want never to hear this name. The Starbucks.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I think of the character on Battlestargull. I think at
Google it if you need to. There TV show there.
Benedict played Starbucks in that show. He was also in
He was on the eighteen there with mister T and
and all the other the cast members there for the
A team as well. So that's old school television that's

(19:20):
going on. Here's a weird thing. You've seen these commercials lately,
especially during college baseball games college softball games. They really
started appearing more. I think I saw the first one
maybe during during the latter part of the college football season,

(19:43):
but maybe not, or maybe it was during the playoffs
in January. It started with the New year, and then
I saw trickling during basketball, and it's really hit big
during baseball and softball season. This whole deal about people
who are betting and then losing their bets and then
hate tweeting student athletes and stuff like that because because

(20:05):
they lost a bet, they've been on them to do it.
And it's a real thing. It's it's it's really happening.
And there's a couple of fronts. First of all, do
you hear the deal about Lanceman Colors?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Okay, So for folks who don't know, Lanceman Colors got
to hate He got death threats from a guy who
was threatening to kill his children and stuff like that.
It's pretty scary. And then it was discovered the guy
wasn't even in the country. He was out of the country,
and he was betting and losing bets, and he was

(20:39):
mad and was colored and drunk. So they traced him,
tracked him down. He admitted it. He probably partly admitted
it because he wasn't going to be extradited to the
United States for for whatever that that kind of a
boring behavior. But he apologized and wanted to senate apology

(21:00):
to Lance mccau mcculor's pretty classy gesture on his part said, Hey, look,
it's it's in my nature to forgive, and I can.
I can live with an apology, and I'm just glad
it's you know, we're able to move on and go
on and go forward from there. But that's one example
of it. Then there's Fan Duel, which is, as you know,

(21:22):
is major sports thing and their name is on that
on the television network. There's a lot of I mean
even the UIL State Championships for football, we're on that
Fan Duel. Sports Southwest formerly Ballely Sports South was formerly
five Sports Out. I've worked on that platform calling those
games for years and years. FanDuel was only the slapped

(21:46):
on name by the parent company still is slapped on
name by the parent company, which is Sinclair Broadcasting, which
owns a lot of television stations across the country, including
KI here in the Austin area. Sinclair Broadcasting but the
network that carried the Spurs this year and the Thunder.

(22:10):
They no longer carry the Rangers. They no longer carry
the Mavericks, they no longer carry the Dallas Stars. Time
will tell to see if they still carry the UIL
football State championship. I don't know the answer that question
or that because I don't think it's been resolved yet.
But it was just the name the labeling was put

(22:33):
on it for that. But FanDuel itself, of course we
know is the mobile and online betting source. Well, today
FanDuel said it banned a better who posted a video
of himself heckling Olympic gold medalist Gabby Thomas at a

(22:56):
recent track event and claimed it made my parlay win.
Thomas posted on X you know the Twitter that the
unnamed man quote followed me around the track as I
took pictures and signed autographs for fans, mostly children, shouting
personal insults. Last weekend at a Grand Slam track event

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in Philadelphia, Grand Slam Track said in a statement is
conducting a full investigation of the reprehensible behavior caption on video.
Grand Slam Track said we are working to identify the
individual involved and will take appropriate action as necessary. We
will implement additional safeguards to help prevent incidents like this
in the future. Let us be clear to speakable behavior

(23:40):
like this will not be tolerated. The better's name Have
you seen this guy's name on social media? His name
is mister one hundred k a day.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Nice. What a tool?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's that's his what he goes by on social media
and describes himself as quote. The track and Field bully
posted a video of himself heckling Thomas ahead of the
one hundred meter race, alongside a screenshot of a one
thousand dollars parlay bet on FanDuel. He said he wrote

(24:19):
in a postalinage quote, I made Gabby lose by heckling her,
and it made my parlay win.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Vanduel said, really, okay, your band.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
They kicked him off, their spokesperson said in a statement
at ESPN the quote was FanDuel condemns in the strongest
terms abusive behavior directed toward athletes, threatening, harassing, athletes. It's
unacceptable and it has no place in sports. This customer
is no longer able to wager with FanDuel. So, you know,

(24:52):
while cases of online harassment of athletes rarely result in
criminal charges and can be difficult to investigate due to
the anonymity of social media, it's becoming a little more prevalent.
The lance colors thing the death threats on social media,
they tracked it to the overseas better and that study
and this is why you're seeing these commercials or these

(25:13):
public service announcements from the NCAAA. It says a study
commissioned last year by the NCAA found that abuse by
quote angry sports betters end quote is one of the
most common types of harassment college athletes received, making up
at least twelve percent of publicly posted social media abuse.

(25:36):
So reprehensible, people doing boorish things. And I won't say
that people who were upset with Texas losing in the
regional were upset because they lost bets. Some might have been,
but some were just ones that people I've seen in

(25:57):
social media who call themselves long worn fans or whatever,
we're pretty ugly toward some of the players and coach
Los Angle, but mainly mainly players, and that's unfortunate, but
it happens everywhere. And then people say, oh that it's
Texas fent Listen, every college, practically every major at least

(26:21):
Division one college program has those types of quote unquote fans.
I saw it with some stuff online social media posts
from North Texas, for heaven's sakes, So you can bet
for Texas, for Texas, A and M for Oklahoma, for
Ohio State, for USC for Georgia Alabama. They're out there,

(26:43):
they're there, it's happening, and unfortunately, in some cases, are
not going away. Hopefully, you know examples like this where
this guy's been banned from vandal. Hopefully that sets a
precedent in motion for that kind of absolutely inexcusable behavior.
All right, up next, I would say it would be inconceivable,

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except we've got inconceivable coming up text here.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I'm thirteen under the zone.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Glad to have you with us to clean up from
our number one from the text line is just an
extension of what we were talking about. That cam has
no idea what we're talking about. So so there's gonna
be a little explanation here. This this started from this
being yacht rock Wednesday, so we play some yacht rock
tunes like gam just rolled out steal Away from Robbie Dupree,

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which really fits the genre. Well, I think it's nineteen
seventy nine, and it was right in the middle of
the of that what ultimately became known to Shower. We
didn't know it back then. It was just different types
of softer rock or music or what pop music. And
earlier he had played Moonlight Feels right by that one

(27:52):
hit wonder group Starbuck and it was done actually in
seventy six, but it fits it, and so the name
the band Starbuck. And but I said, whenever I hear that,
I think of the character Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica and battles.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Did you ever see Battlestar Galactica, by the way, that's
kind of like the uh, the satirical film.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, no, no, no, that's that's uh Quest.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
That was what was it called Galaxy Quest? Galaxy? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
That was good. That was really good. That was kind
of a take I never started.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I never got into like Star Trek or okay, Battlestar Galactic.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, Battlestar Galactica was what was definitely, uh, trying to
capitalize on the Star Wars phenomenon. It came out seventy
seven when Star Wars did, and their warships looked very
similar to the Tie Fighters or to the other fighter ships,
and their their big star destroyers looked very very similar.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
The premise of the story of Battlestar Galactica was that
these people, regular humans, broke away, but we're kind of
always in a battle with a group called the Cylons
c y l o Ends and they had like these
android robot type things that looked like it kind of
looked like stormtroopers and whatever, and so they were always

(29:14):
going up against them, the people that were running them,
and they were trying to find something they had heard
was called Earth, trying to find Earth. And Lorne Green, Yeah,
the same guy played Ben Cartwright in Bonanza was the leader.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think he was whatever General Adama.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
And uh so there were different there were different there
were different characters on it, and and one was called
Apollo and he was kind of the lead on it.
And then his best buddy was like was was Starbuck
was Dirk Benedict. And so that's why I said, it
reminded me of that well, then, of course, uh, we

(29:54):
start getting we started getting the uh the uh text
messages about this one saying Dirk Benedict was a speedster
as the anchor and the relay on Battle of the
Network Stars, he smoked Gabe Kaplan. Now you said, you
don't know what Battle of the Network Stars was, picture

(30:18):
picture field day at work or at school. But it's
all network TV personalities from TV shows. They hit TV
shows at the time, it was televised on ABC.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
But you had stars from shows ABC, NBC and CBS,
and they went up against each other in things like
tuggle war and track and field hurdles or relay, swimming events, volleyball.
There a lot of different events and you got a
chance to see these network stars compete in various events.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
And some of it was humorous and some of it was.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
So they said, Scott Bayo against Richard Hatch and the
obstacle course finals was practically pay per view television. Richard
Hatch was good. He was the one who played Apollo
in Battlestar Galacting. You know who Scott Bayo is, right? Mmm?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I think so Chachi does that ring a bell? No? Chachi? Okay,
happy days.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I know I've heard of it, never watched it, Okay,
Scott Dail, Okay, yeah, it doesn't seem too familiar, but
I never watched I never even rewatched any of those.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
The only like show I watched, Scotty.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Was also Charles in Charge. Wasn't he when he also
Charles in Charge?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
The TV show?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, Jony Lifts Chowchy, Happy Days Sapped Bugsy Malone, See
Dad Run.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, yeah, so he was. He was a teenager at
the time, and so yeah, he'd be in that.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay, those shows actually any good or they just Happy
Days was out. Happy Days was really good for the
first several years until FANSI Jumped the Shark, which, by
the way, that's where the phrase jump the Shark comes from.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Finds.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
It was Henry Winkler, and he was the you know,
you know Henry Winkler better as the coach from Waterboy.
But anyway, he was he was like the guy in
the leather jacket, the cool dude on the motorcycle. Well, yeah,
he actually jumped sharks on his motorcycle. So that's where
they said the series kind of quote unquote jumped the shark.
It kind of became less believable and fun and all

(32:24):
that kind of stuff. When Ron Howard, who of course
played Opie on Andy Griffith, When Ron Howard was Richie
Cunningham and those other guys in there, it was it
was kind of fun when it first started. For a while,
first few years, I was a teenage and Verse came
out and liked it, and then the spin off for that,
Lavernon Shirley, was okay.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
But.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Eventually it kind of they ran out a really good
story ideas, so it quote unquote literally and figured he
jumped the shark when they did that kind of deal.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well. The other thing is.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Some of the Battle of the Network Stars was fantastic,
and this is where I was going next.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I knew somebody would go down this road.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Seeing Crushes Linda Carter and the two Heathers, Heather Locklayer
and Heather Thomas compete was nice and it made me
want to go to that university up on Malibu Beach Pepperdine.
The scenery was so great, That's what Rob said, and
so hails Kathy Lee Crosby and the Dunking Booth was
appointment television. Ed Asner in a Pool was not ed. Asner,
of course played mister grant On Mary Tyler Moore. The

(33:26):
points that they're making is that a lot of the guys,
especially teenage guys, and I knew. I had several buddies
who were you know, they would watch this to see
Joyce de Witt from Three's Company, or Catherine Back who
played Daisy Duke on The Dukes of Hazzard in a
bikini in the in a swimming event, things like that,

(33:47):
and ABC knew that, you know, the whole thing. In
addition to the athletes, there was a sex cells kind
of quotient that went into that deal. So that's why
they they did some of that as well. And but
I gotta tell you, one of the most hilarious parts
of this whole thing was and I was reminded. I'd
totally forgotten this this part ever happened, but I was

(34:10):
reminded through our good friends on social media one of
my favorite sites of all, and that's the Super seventies sports.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Twitter account. Have you ever seen that?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Okay, because that guy's got a funny and sometimes warped
sense of humor, but sometimes it's pretty poignant.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
So I got a YouTube video of Howard Coselle hosted
this This is where I'm getting this is where I'm
getting to it.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Howard Cosell was the host of it, and then they
would have like Frank Gifford and some other ones that
were doing different different events and things like that, like
Frank Gifford did in the Superstars competition on ABC.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Holy colchy, That's what I'm saying. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
There is an episode at least one maybe more where
you see stand up of Howard Cosell and he's got
two analysts with him. The two analysts are Bruce Jenner
and O. J. Simpson. Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, all right, Now,
Bruce Jenner, we know is since the Transformation, what name

(35:19):
uh is going to?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Kaitlyn Kaitlyn Jenner? Okay, Caitlyn Jenner, now okay. So there's
a stand up and there's a freeze frame of the
stand up and it's Howard Cosell. He's got then Bruce
Jenner on one side of him and O. J. Simpson
on the other side. And the caption on the Super
seventy Sports was Howard Cosell quote, I'm looking into the future,

(35:46):
my friends, and you're not going to believe what it
looks like with these two or something like that. So
that was that was all part of the Battle of
the Network Stars. But and it was kind of fun competition,
you know. But but it was made for TV. It
was definitely a made for TV event, so, uh, it's kind.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Of you know, all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
So talking about Happy Days, of course Ron Howard was
in it, and I was like, you know, what is
Ron Howard done lately? He he just worked on a
documentary series for Amazon Prime about Dell Earnhardt. So I
now know what I'm watching on my flight to Raleigh
on Saturday. I can't wait to be a mess for
the final episode. Probably he became obviously what he became.

(36:32):
I was here, like, what's the newest things He's anything with?
Ron Howard is like all right, you know it's kind
of like Scorsese. Yeah, it's like, I gotta watch that thirteen.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Uh what was what was the thing? Uh with the
Aliens that came down? That was just great?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Et?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
No, it was et was Steven Spielberg. Cocoon to cruise? Yeah, No,
wasn't to cruise in Cocun. No, who's in cocuon?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
No, it was It's about a bunch of older people
and kind of finding the fountain of youth through these
through these aliens. So it was, it was, it was
that kind of thing. Anything in Cocktail. Yeah, got a
film with Tom Cruise and Elizabeth shoe As a completely
different kind of movie there. But anyway, Yeah, Ron Howard

(37:23):
did a lot of you know, his genesis. He started
messing around movie cameras while he was eight, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve during the Andy Griffith Show in the sixties. And
then he wanted to get into filmmaking, and he agreed
to be in a film, in fact, one of the
key stars in the movie American Graffiti, if he would

(37:46):
be allowed to direct another movie by the same producer
nineteen seventy three, young fledgling producer named George Lucas.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
And now you know the rest of the story or Lucas.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Pre star wars had Ron Howard in American Graffiti, and
then he let him direct a movie called Eat My Dust.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
He was in some car chase thing.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
But Ron Howard became obviously big time film producer director.
Where do you stand with mission impossible? I have not
seen any of the movie. That's incredible, but I didn't
that's the that's incredible I've never seen any of the Well, well,
let me ask you this. Did you see either of
the Top Gun movies?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Seen the first one?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Okay, never saw a second one, only because I miss
it in theaters and felt like it wasn't going to
be the same.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'll eventually watch Top Gun.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Maver I don't. I don't have a big thing against
Tom Cruise. I don't. I saw Days of Thunder. I
saw that, I hope so that'd be an example where
the remax has to be better than the original. I
saw Ice White Shut, I saw obviously, uh, several of.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
The they're talking about a sequel, I think, okay, all right,
I've seen several Tom Cruise movies.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Cocktail one of a few good Men, obviously, I've seen
I've seen several Taps and Taps. People forget about that
he had the support role in Taps. Was Tom Cruise's character? Well,
when did that movie come out? Which one is a thunder?

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Was that before nineties? So I've heard people say it's
it's it's kind of compared a little bit to it.
But Jeff didn't have he didn't hit his prime till
like ninety four, ninety.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, because Robert Duval played the junior Johnson role. That
was really kind of model after the Moonshine and all
those kinds. They played up, all the stereotypes and all
that kind of stuff. I mean, every it was like
every race one was out to crash another. And that's
not the case, that's not in NASCAR, but you know,
it was that that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
We are getting Deaf one movie, which I'm very excited about.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, I am. I'm looking forward to that. Okay, all right,
We've got some other things we'll get to, but I
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Speaker 1 (40:40):
App our Man CB on the text onun says Ron
Howard directed Solo a Star Wars story, and it's not great.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I didn't think the story was that great in Solo.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
It was forced, like a lot of these, you know,
spin off movies where it's like, okay, we gotta put
something together.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
See and there's some that are really good. I think
Rogue one is outstanding, very good. It's one of my
favorite in the Star Wars catalog.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
So not so much. I thought it was kind of forced.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Woody Harrelson's pretty funny in it, pretty good in it,
you know, when he's like that other bootlegger or whatever
he is.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I didn't mind Donald Glover as Lando, but you know, yeah,
it's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
But that also looked like it had kind of been
prefabbed in you know. And I will tell you this,
when you talk to a lot of people, they have
trouble with where this movie is placed in the chronology.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Because Han Solo is very.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Young in that movie, and they said, well, let's laugh
to this and this, and then well that that doesn't
add up mathematically, and it juxtaposed against when Luke Skywalker
is born and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
But anyway, that's Star Wars nerdy stuff. But it just
does it.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
It doesn't seem to fit the chronology where most say
that it does drop and I've got the chronology of
where everything does. But anyway, yeah, he did direct that.
He also directed a lot of movies that were really
really good as well, and he's I think he co

(42:14):
authored a book about it with him and his brother Clint,
who was also an actor.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Clint Howard, you would have seen in Seinfeld. What did
he do in Seinfeld?

Speaker 3 (42:26):
He was season three or four where Kramer moves to California,
you know, to pursue an acting career.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
And people that he's dead and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
He is on the lamb and so Jerry and George
are searching for him with the cops, and then the
cops end up picking up Ron Howard's brother, who is
the smog Strangler.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
That's right, that's right. But then he was as a
child actor.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
He was Leon on the Andy Griffiths Show with the
Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich always. He was only like
three years old at the time. And then he was
in a show called General Ben about a kid growing
up in the Florida Everglades and his park ranger dad,
who was played by Dennis Weaver, who people later saw
in McCloud.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And he had been on gun smoke and things like that.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
But General Ben was a bear, a big black bear
that was his pal that lived, an actual bear that
they had in the in the episode. But then he
was in like all of Ron Howard's movies. He's one
of the guys on the flight crew are in the
control room and mission control in Apollo thirteen when they're
trying to figure out how to get the astronauts home.

(43:32):
He's in like all of his movies. So anyway, I
wanted to ask you a couple of golf related questions
because there's there's some weird stuff going on. First of all,
we were talking about Max Homer and how he carried
his own bag to try to qualify for the US

(43:53):
Open and he missed out in a playoff for an
alternate spot and he didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
He fired his caddy.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Word comes down to dead that he landed a former
Tiger Woods caddy and uh so it's Lance Bennett. Okay,
is Lance Bennett. Lance Bennett has worked with both Tiger
Woods at Matt Coucher. Now, is this the caddy that
Matt coucher was stiffing on the No. No, that was

(44:20):
a pickup, wasn't it. Yeah, that was a local, local
caddy at the course in Hawaii, and he like chinzed
him really low on what he was supposed to pay him.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I think like something about like give him ten percent,
but you know, because he won, it's like, well you
should probably give him more than that.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
And it was a whole whole debacle, it was. It
was I remember that.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
So anyway, Lance Bennett is going to be on the
bag for Max Hooma at the Canadian Open. Wouldn't it
be something if he wound up winning the freaking Canadian
Opening qualified therefore for the US Open, wouldn't that be something?

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Well? That if all right?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
So you have that story, okay, And with regard to
the Canadian Open itself, five golfers have withdrawn. Anders Albertson,
Michael Thorn Bjornsen had withdrawn, replaced by Hayden Springer and
Joseph Brown. Then Matt Coocher, uh See, Ethan Gala and

(45:19):
Taylor Dixon also dropped out. Dylan Moo, Cameron Champ, and
Taylor Montgomery will take their places as well. They're folks
saying it's a tune up event for Rory McElroy trying
to get back on the All right, so that was
weird all of a sudden, five guys just drop out

(45:39):
of what this week? Yeah, the Canadian opened, I don't
think so. Not that not that unusual. No, I think
the league.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Before a major championship, a lot of players depending on
how they feel, well, we'll drop out before.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Because it's not Scotty even playing in it.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
No, I didn't think so he played last week Memorial
because last week was the decentent event, a little more
of a harder tournament.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Absolutely. Yeah, Okay, then.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
You have you have one of the best amateur golfers
in the world.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Who was was the guy uh at the at the
Masters whose steros who beat in the Race Creek Allister
he was? Yeah, he was relieving himself in Race Creek. So, uh,

(46:35):
he's now signed up to be on Sergio's Fireballs team.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Would live golf, So, I mean, was that expected?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Arizona State has like a pipeline to live golf because
David Puig, who was I believe he may have played
the Masters as well as an amateur Micholson obviously, Yeah,
he he went from Arizona State directly to Live as
now Jose Lewis obviously, Phill's out there, John Rams out
there's something and Tim Michelson's of you know, the Caddie Forefield,

(47:04):
who was the head coach at Arizona State for the
men's golf program during their national championship runs. So something
about Arizona State and Live Golf. There's a little bit
of a pipeline there and not bad for lift. You
have all these young and up and coming amateurs, but uh,
you know, we haven't seen we really do anything in
major championships since then. So interesting to see what happens

(47:27):
with Jose Luis. But hey, for a college kid, you know,
you're offered an X amount of money up front, guaranteed
for a certain amount of years, versus you know, going
to the Cornferry Tour where you have to earn your.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Way to the PGA Tour.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
You may make no money, you know, right, Craig, you
may every single cut and all of a sudden your
in depth versus, hey, I'm gonna go here. I know
I'm gonna play every week or I'm gonna play these
amount of weeks and I'm gonna make this amount of money,
and you know, for him, hopefully it turns out to
where he can get a good enough world golfing rank
and earn his way into some of these events and

(48:02):
maybe win a major championship or in a few years
maybe live in the PGA Tour.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I'll merge together. Who knows.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
He's so he's replacing Luis Uh massive view, I guess,
uh sure, all right? And and yes, and David Puig
is out with a back entry right now.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
That's a bummer.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So he's listed h whose Ballistaire as as a backup
player on the roster, a reserve player. But he is
going to make his pro debut this week at the
live event in Virginia. Uh so he's he's so he
will he will do that. So he's gonna, like you said,

(48:46):
he's going to bypass the corn Ferry Tour. He declined
the corn Ferry Tour card, which he earned by finishing
third in the PGA Tour University rankings. So he uh,
he faced public backlash. Uh you know about that, just
as he faced public backlash for taking a leak in

(49:08):
Raised Creek.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
He did that.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
So anyway, he of course won the US Amateur last year.
Becoming the first Spaniard to do so. And uh, now
he's gonna Now he's going to play in this this
event in Virginia this week, a live golf event. So
I don't did we ever get this thing confirmed? Are
you wanting a credential to go up at the end
of the month to go to the live golf event

(49:34):
there at Merido? Okay? I mean because it's within driving distance,
That's why I mentioned. I mean, you know, if you
wanted to go up there in the Dallas Forward there.
It's in Carrollton at Merida, which I think is the
old Colombian country Club, and they completely redid it and
reworked it there. It's in that same area. They're off
beltline north north of there, Meredo. But you're not not
for you.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Great golf course, but not interested at all? Okay, sorry, okay,
all right, I'm not going to drive it up there
and spend gas money for live golf, all right.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Okay, all right, all right, all right, Uh when we
come back. Uh, there's there's a couple of other stories
we would get to. One is a college football story
and one is a beer story, and the two we
are completely unrelated. Two stories they're not related, but we'll
get to those next on thirteen.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
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Speaker 1 (50:39):
I'm trying to remember. I guess it would have been
a week ago, Monday, nine days ago. What did you
do on Memorial Day? I can't remember even yesterday. Memorial
Day was Monday. It was a Monday. It was the
day the bracket came out.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
I think it was bad weather, so I was hoping
to go on the lake. I think I just stayed home.
I think went to the gym for a little bit.
That's about it.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Did you have a beer? No?

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah, okay, so you're among the many we did not
have a I feel like many had a beer in.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Memorial Day, right, Well, apparently, according to Goldman Sacks, there
were huge drops, large drops in US beer consumption on
Memorial Day is.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Usually always on a Monday.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's the Monday of that last weekend it used to be.
When it was originally set up, it was called Decoration
Day back in the early twentieth century and was set
up as a memorial to World War One veterans. That's
what the red poppies or they were in the baseball uniforms,
and which you say that because the red poppies there
in the fields of Flanders, there in Belgium and all

(51:47):
this other stuff where.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
The war zone was, and so that's where it started.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
But then of course, like what society has done day
with m Oka Day or President's Day or some of
these other they just put it on the Monday, coming
off a weekend, so folks can just have a whole
weekend of it, I suppose. But anyway, Goldman Sachs said

(52:15):
distributors cited inflation, tariffs and more sobriety as reasons for
these dips. In memorial said Heineken had the weakest sales
among peer beer brands. Goldvin Sachs surveyed about fifty distributors
who were represent two hundred and thirty thousand retail altumlets,

(52:36):
or about forty six percent of the US outlets that
sell alcohol, and distributors reported sales trands for Anheuser Busch,
Wilson Coors, Heineken, Samuel Adams, and Medello's parent company, and
the report said the sales for overall beer market were
lackluster and largely fell short of expectations for a variety

(52:59):
of reasons, the inflation, terraces, and immigration. Goldman said that
heine Can underperform a sixty six percent of beer distributors
survey saying the beer company's volumes were down this holiday
compared with last year. So the top names included by Light, Corona,
Extra Miller Lite saw but they saw a decline in

(53:19):
Memorial Dale Memorial Day sales volume compared with last year,
So uh, there's there's that. Now. There was a couple
other ones, let's see Pacifico Twisted Tea among those who
saw volume increase year over year, so it got a
little bit of increased but by and large, Memorial Day

(53:44):
beer sales fell off dramatically.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Strange.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I feel like I is Heineken a European thing. I
feel like I've never seen anyone drink a Heineken before,
but I see their commercials all the time. I don't
think I've ever seen anyone in Texas drink of Heineken.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Really, as beers go, I like it, okay, you know
you know where I'll have it occasionally, believe it or not.
What no no, I actually had a soft drink last night.
But but but Linda and I did go to the
Tony Season Round Rock last night.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
We had a good time on an airplane.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Because if if you're on an airplane and then for
whatever reason, you get bumped to first class, of course
a beverage would be complementary if you wanted one. And
after that, I think this is the last time I
actually had a Heineken, now that I think about it.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I was, Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
It was after the Arkansas football game, and I had
to race to the airport to catch the flight to
go to Chicago because the women's basketball game against the
Paul was the next day. So I raced to the
airport and then found out if I really hurried to
get to the gate, I could go on an earlier flight.
So I did, and not only that, they gave me

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an upgrade to first class.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
So I sat down and I'm catching my breath and
I'm catching my breath, and then flight Attendniss would like
some of the drinking. All of a sudden, he hit me.
I said, I think I like a beer. She said, okay,
well we have ah this, this Heineken, this and this
and I said, he why not? So I think that's
the last time I had I had one. I don't

(55:28):
ever had one before.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I think I can for some reason. I know the
smell of a Heineken. Okay, it's very It's more distinct
than I think than a bud light or a nick
ultro or any of those, you know, domestic light beers.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
As far as far as imported beers go.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Uh, if I have one on occasion, I'll have a
Stella Artois stella which is technically technically a malt liquor
because of alcohol content, but it's I had it first.
It's Belgium, and I had it first in Belgium when
my first wife and I were over there on the

(56:06):
European trip at eighty eight and two things really stuck
with me from Belgium hazel nut and stell Artois. I
like hazel nut lattes or hazel nut moocus.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I really like hazel.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Nut because nutella is hazel nut, and that's apparently massive
in Europe for some reason.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Yeah, I'm not a new telephani. Yeah, I don't like that.
That's hazel nut though, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Well you can get different, wonder you get chocolate.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
You can get peanut butter flavoring and all that, but
I'm just not Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't do
it for me. But I do like, I do like it,
like as a flavoring in the coffee. I've always liked that.
I wanted to get to this other story, and this
was a story on the Athletic and it was about

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the headline is the SEC and the Big Ten demanded
the power to shape the college football playoff future. Now
they can't agree. And the story by Ralph Russo, who
I really like his work. I've been reading him a
long time, basically gives the impression of the SEC and

(57:11):
the Big Ten being the dog that chases the car
and then he catches the card, like what's next on this?
As he pointed out, he said SEC Commissioner Greg Sankie
often talks about the challenges of solving problems in large
rooms of people.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
He does. He does.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
He mentions that balancing many voices, viewpoints, and priorities as
the root of college sports myriad issues. He's exactly right, Ralph,
and that is what Sankie talks about. He got all
these different voices and all these different perspectives and there
are arguments in the room, and his job is to

(57:47):
try to make sure to keep the BB's in the
box and keep everybody kind of moving toward a common
goal while at least trying to see if one group
can kind of get some of what they want and
the other group can kind of get some. Mean, it's
a very political thing to try to get some of
what they want as well, And so Ralph Russo goes on.
He says it's a fair point, and those rooms have

(58:07):
shrunk in recent years and the hopes of finding better
solutions more efficiently. The current college football playoff negotiations are
a chance to prove Sankee's theory correct. Yes, the other
FBS conferences can tractually have the right to provide meaningful input,
But the room where the next CFP format will be

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decided he needs only two chairs, one for Sankie and
one for his Big Ten counterpart, Tony Pettiti. The SEC
and the Big Ten we're tired of operating in a
structure that required consensus from all eleven stakeholders in the CFP.
The new contract that kicks in next year gives the
SEC and the Big Ten the power to do what
they think is best. Yet still, the CFP talks have

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hit a bump, stemming directly from the SEC's interminable internal
debate of whether to continue to play eight conference games
or move to the n which would match the number
played in the Big Ten, And after the SEC spent
last week making headlines and pounding its chest at the
annual spring meetings, decision makers in the Big Ten were
left wondering whether the two leagues can agree on a

(59:12):
model for determining college football's champion. One incredulous athletic director,
granted anonymity to candidly address the state of discussions, told
the Athletic League last week, quote, we thought we were
on the same page.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
So anyway back and forth, whether the field includes fourteen
teams or sixteen, which seems to be the new front runner,
that doesn't seem to be the big deal in it.
It's all about the models. So Sankie mentioned the five
eleven model, and he said, in our own ability to
earn those berths, The question is why wouldn't that be fine?

(59:50):
Why wouldn't we do that? I kind of like the
five eleven model. If we can fix the selection process
and SEC athletic director said as the meetings wound up,
I think that was Scott straightlinding floor. So the five
to eleven model is five conference champions and eleven at
large selections, and apparently the coaches the Big Ten, however,

(01:00:14):
not necessarily necessarily on board that deal. They want the
very cumbersome sounding four four two two one. Okay, here's
the four four two two one thing. Four automatic bids
for the Big Ten, four automatic bids for the SEC,
two automatic bids for the ACC and Big twelve, and

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then one for the top conference champion from the other
six leagues.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Four four two two one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
If the size of the postseason does expand from twelve
to sixteen, and and and by the way, that right there,
that's thirteen plus you know, Notre Dame always factors. But
if the size expanded to sixteen, the fourmat allows for
three at large selections to make the field. So that's
what they're kind of, you know, up for now. They're

(01:01:11):
going to see. The Big Ten apparently is willing to
budget on guaranteed CP qualifiers, but the uneven number of
conference games among the power leagues gives the Big Ten
paws on allowing a selection committee to wield the power
of placing eleven at large teams in the CP field.
The Big Ten and the Big twelve play nine, The
SEC and the ACC played eight and thirteen of the

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Big tens. Eighteen teams compete against at least ten Power
Conference opponents in twenty twenty five. You can see where
this is headed. They want them to stop playing the
mercers in Western Carolinas and Samford's of the world. Texas
doesn't do that. As we know, they haven't played an
FCS opponent since two thousand and six. The last time
they did that it was an add on because I

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think it was Minnesota that dropped out, and it was
also the year the schedule went from eleven regular season
games to twelve, so Texas had to move fast and
sam Houston State was one of the top FCS powers
in the country, and they went in. They got sam
in there, and I think they beat them fifty six
to nothing their fifty six to three year, fifty six
to seven. Ironically, they play sam Houston this year when

(01:02:15):
all of this debate about should the CS schools be
out of the mix on scheduling for the SEC teams, Alabama,
Georgia Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, who am I leaving out, Vanderbilt, Florida,

(01:02:35):
just just about, Texas, A and M. Just about all
of them played an FCS opponent last year, and the SEC,
the coaches of those schools like, because they know there's
going to be a win involved.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
The like a bye week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
It is, well, it's it was given the derisive nickname
cupcake Week. The athletic directors like it in terms of
another guarantee of another home game, But you can get
that without having to play an FCS opponent. Texas has
proven that, so Oklahoma also played an FCS opponent last year.

(01:03:18):
So that's what the debate is right now, because the
Big Ten apparently is now peeling back a little bit, going,
you guys are going to go to nine games, you
go to nine conference games. The SEC's counter to that
is not so much about the money, you're about the opponent.
Their point is they had the vast majority of the

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top I think twelve most difficult schedules last year, and
that included the ones playing the FCS. Because of the
quality and caliber of opposition in conference playing the SEC,
that's why. So there's the tug of war between those
two sides right now. All right, we'll be back to

(01:04:00):
wrap up hour number two here on thirteen under the Zone.
Third and final hour of the program here on thirteen
hundred the Zone. Craig Wade joined by the producer Cameron Parker.
Glad to have you with us today, and we've discussed
a variety of topics and get into some more here
a reminder, Texas Softball in the National Championship Series tonight,
Game one against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. They're the

(01:04:21):
Red Raiders in softball. Women's basketball, they're the Lady Raiders,
but they're the Red Raiders in softball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Just like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I've told people a couple of times, including a friend
of mine, that Texas hasn't gone by Lady Longhorn. Somebody said,
how many games do the Lady Longhorn softball team need
doing national tavas of it? I said, you know, they
Texas Softball never went by Lady Longhorns. They've always been
just Long Horn softball because there's not a men's softball
team anyway. But the genesis of that, in case you're

(01:04:51):
wondering the history of that can go all the way
back to the mid to late nineties when Texas women's
pass bakeball moved away from going by Lady long Wars
just Longhorns. As Jody Conrad said, we don't say the
male Longhorns were all long Worns. So that's when it

(01:05:12):
started when I took over what I started doing the
play by play for Texas women's basketball in nineteen ninety seven,
the ninety seven ninety eight season, my first year, Yes,
the year Cameron Parker was born. Nineteen ninety seven, that's
when I started doing play by play on the women's basketball.
I was told then right at the start, they're not

(01:05:36):
going by Lady Longhorns anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
It's just long Horns.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
So anyway, and Texas Tech still does call its women's
basketball team Lady Raiders, but they are just Red Raiders.
You could see it on their uniforms in the softball
team when they played in the Women's College World SiO.
So it's Long Runs and Red Raiders playing tonight, Game one,
the best of three series, and you can hear it
on the iHeartRadio app six forty five air time, seven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Yes search, yeah, so somewhere after seven, because I think
it's been a little bit delayed the World Series. I
think it's closer to like seven fifteen by the time
they first fitch is thrown. Yeah, they do all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
That's ESPN saying that, you know they're telling the just
like when they do that business. When they have college
basketball games, they say one of the first games at
six and the second games at eight, we know, good
and well, it's in conference tournament play. That's not happening
because they have to put thirty minutes on the clock
in between. So that's four letter network running that and
that's why that is the way it is. So anyway,

(01:06:35):
that is coming your way tonight. As we mentioned, our
text line is always open for your thoughts, your questions, and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Comments.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I mentioned that story about the beer sales being significantly less,
and that's why I even brought up the story because
the story was is that it was significantly less. It
was significant drop. He didn't give the percentage number, but
they said it was a significant reported significant drop in
beer sales on Memorial Day. And Carrie said that things

(01:07:11):
that make you go, hmm, I wonder if with the
drop in beer sales, if highway accident deaths reduced as well.
That's a very saliot question. Interesting, it'd be interesting. It'd
be interesting to see if that was the case. Seapalaces
Bomar was the Sam Houston quarterback. Don't know if he played.
I don't remember him playing uh in that game, and

(01:07:35):
obviously he tried.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I thought Rep. Bomar transferred laid Or, but I could
be wrong about that. But I don't remember him playing
back in that game when Texas played them back in six.
But we can always check that and find out. Okay,
with the When I was talking about earlier, the uh

(01:07:59):
uh the Superstars competition, and much to Cameron's amazement, Howard
Kosel was was the host of that. Somebody said coachlle
Easy could have jumped started the me too movement. They're
on Battle of the Network Stars, so he said. Haggarty
was the goat and tuggle warre. That's Dan Haggerty. He

(01:08:20):
played Grizzly Adams Show on NBC. Yeah, some other offerings
we had on that from our conversation on Battle of
the Network Stars. For those who remember that and those
who do, I'm glad I'm not alone out there. The
NBA Finals begin tomorrow night. Cameron Parker's pumped up about

(01:08:41):
this because it's his team back in the finals. How
were you were you the last time they were in
the final fifteen?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Was that twenty twelve? Okay? That would have made you
fifteen or fourteen? Would be fourteen going on fifteen? Okay? Okay?
Was that your team back then? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
I lived and died by every game, like regular season game,
playoff game. I was fully invested because remember twenty twelve,
Like you know, it wasn't a lot going on with
Texas football at the time, right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Wasn't into the Cowboys yet, Rangers were very good. Living
in North Carolina. Why Oklahoma City?

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Okay, okay, that's why fan kt SO Seattle and then
those one year in Seattle, right and then okay, see,
so I was. I was fully into it. I remember,
you know, those losses and stuff. I remember watching game
two or game one, Uh Katie missing that baseline jumper
over Lebron. Sorry, game game two, Game two because I think, okay,

(01:09:45):
see one, game one, Game two missing the baseline jumper
over Lebron and they could have gone on me one
four straight and Kendrick Perkins for some reason played that
series that stuff and of course to the image of
Katie and Russ and Harden on the bench with their
arms on each other think and Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
They'll be back back and didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
They'll be back, but it'll be thirteen years later to
a completely different team.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
The completely different team.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Well, which brings me to this story, and I found
it fascinating. I did not know the rabbit hole down
which one must go to get this, but Kevin Pelton
did it for ESPN. I don't know if you saw
this story, but it's called NBA Finals twenty twenty five.
How Paul George and Blockbusters built the Thunder and the Pacers.

(01:10:33):
That one guy, one guy was the lynch pin that
made it all spread like wildfire. And the end result
is that you have the two teams that you have
in the NBA Finals, the Pacers in the Oklahoma City Thunder.
His lead is that these two teams meeting in the
NBA Finals starting Thursday, are linked by the trade they

(01:10:55):
made nearly eight years ago, sending Paul George from Indy
to Each team can trace its current stars to trading
away Paul George. George, who's now a nine time All Star,
requested to join Kawhi Leonard with the Clippers in twenty nineteen,
so the Thunder leveraged it to acquire wait for it,

(01:11:18):
future MVP sha Gilgess Alexander, as well as the draft
picks that have yielded All Star Jalen Williams and rookie
Dylon Jones, with more still to come, including this year's
number fifteen to number twenty four selections. After Victor Oladipo
and Demanas Sabonis, whom Indiana acquired for George from OKAC,

(01:11:38):
developed into all stars, the Pacers then spun them forward.
Sibonis was the centerpiece of Indiana's blockbuster deal for wait
for it, Tyrese Haliburton, and in trading Oladipo for Karis
Laburn ultimately landed the Pacers starter Andrew Nemhard and reserved
Ben Shephard via draft picks and acquired from the Cavaliers

(01:12:01):
in a deal for Lavert. In twenty twenty three, it said,
since other NBA teams won't be able to trade George
in his prime, let's study these deals to see what
other teams can actually learn from the Pacers and the Thunder,
who traded their way into young rosters that reached the finals.
So for Oklahoma City, the trades July sixth, twenty seventeen,

(01:12:23):
almost eight years ago, Victor olill be A Depot and
Sabana Sabonis Demanda Sabonis for Paul George. And then two
years later, on the very same day, July sixth, but
it was twenty nineteen, George went to the Clippers for
Sga d Nila Gallinari, five first round draft picks and

(01:12:44):
two swaps. What in the world were the Clippers thinking
five first round draft picks. I don't know that any
player in any sport is worth five first round draft picks.
But it said it, you know, said that there was
that deal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
And then.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
The Pacers who traded George for Oladipo and Sabonis July sixth,
twenty seventeen, as we mentioned, then Ola Depo for Lavert
and two second round picks in January of twenty twenty one,
then Lavert and a second round pick for Ricky Rubio,
a first round pick and two second round picks in
February twenty twenty two. Then Sabonis, Justin Holliday, Jeremy Lamb

(01:13:31):
and a second round pick for Haliburton, Buddy Healed, and
Tristan Thompson February twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
And they say less than learn out of that is
undervalued talent. Let you pick out of that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
That's amazing when you see how all roads lead back
to how Paul George was ground zero for this, just
like people can look at who's our guy's ground zero
for COVID, for the jazz.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
For COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Yeah, ah, Rudy Gobert, thank you, that's it went out
of my mind from it, Rudy Gobert. All roads lead
back to Rudy Gobert, not because he was the only
person that was that had COVID. It's just his announced case.
Stop that game and then everything got shut.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Down after that. It was Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
This is ground zero for how these two teams developed
into the teams that will take the floor tomorrow night
at the Bay Coom Center.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
And Indiana got so close to the finals with Paul
George just could not get past Lebron James and Oka
See was hoping that Paul George and Russell Westbrook and
Carmela Anthony could get Okay See back to the finals.
It did not work out. But as you outline that
traded and you can even point back to two thousand
and eight, Craig. There's a fantastic piece also on The

(01:14:47):
Athletic from Anthony Slater talking about how even before that,
the trade for Paul George featured Victor Ala Depot and
Ta Montes Sabonis. Those guys were traded to OKCE for
sirch of Baka. Abaca was drafted in the twenty fourth
pick in two thousand and nine using a trade exception

(01:15:11):
created from the Kurt Thomas trade in two thousand and eight,
when Steve Kerr was the Phoenix Suns general manager. So
it's funny how all that has kind of worked back.
So really, if your episode of OKAC and if they
went it, you don't like it, then go ahead and
blame Steve Kerr.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
It's his fine. That's Kurt Thomas. Wow, he goes back
to some of that goes to Kurt Thomas. You know
my memory at Kurt Thomas's where did he play his college.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Ball at TCU? Okay, so you got a story here?
Oh yeah, okay, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Yeah, Kurt Thomas played for TCU. Billy Tubbs was the
coach of TCU. By that he had left Oklahoma, where
he'd had a lot of success got him too the
National Championship round where they lost to Kansas coach by
Larry Brown, Danny Mann Danny and the Miracles nineteen eighty eight,

(01:16:03):
and Billy Tubbs was a coach. Billy Tubbs, of course,
was the very cerbic kind of coach. You talked a
little bit, sound almost a little bit in some respects
like Jack Nichols somebody. But he was the one who
took the microphone when they were playing unlv H and
they had the anniversary of that come up where he said,

(01:16:26):
because some Oklahoma fans were throwing stuff onto the floor
at the at Lloyd Noble whenever played in UNLV and
he said, listen, don't throw anything on the floor, no
matter how bad the officials are. And he got ejected
from the game for that to play when he got
a technical, the fans went crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Well, anyway, he'd come.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
He became the coach of TCU and he did a
pretty good job with him, pretty good, but they never
developed into his national power. But they had Kirk Thomas,
who wasn't all American, he was a heck of a player.
So Texas goes in there to play with Danny Meyer,
calls em them for Worth and Texas was a better team.
That was one of the years that Tom Penders had
a team that got to It.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Might have been ninety seven when he went to the
Sweet sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
It might or ninety six when they had barely lost
to Tim Duncan and wake Forest, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Was one of those years.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
And Kurt Thomas played the game of his life, played incredible,
and TCU upset Texas in Fort Worth and fans go
crazy and they started to court and all this other
kind of stuff. So a month later they had the
rematch in Austin and Texas blows them out of the water.

(01:17:36):
I think it was like thirty It wasn't wasn't even
in the ballpark, just just absolutely blew them out. And
Billy Tubbs did not want to go in and do
the postgame press conference. He was not wanted to do
and the meaty relations to people like coach, we got
to do we's got to do this finally whatever, So

(01:17:57):
he walks in. That's when he walked into the news conference,
stood at the microphone and said, Okay, I'm only going
to take three questions, and then somebody raised an answer. Why
only three questions? Coach, Now you're down to two questions.
That was Billy Tubbs coaching TCU, which had Kurt Thomas
on that team. All right, we've got more coming out

(01:18:17):
here on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Welcome back to the Craig Way Show and the Voice
of the Longhorns. Craig Way follow Craig on social media
at Horn.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Voice College World Service National Championship Series. He bal said,
you know, with a pitching night, heck, the game may
only be an hour long. If taken Cavan is on
her game in the circle, and we Expectnijorie Kennedy or

(01:18:49):
Nise as they call her, Naja Kennedy to be on
her game, then yeah, who knows. It may come down
to one key hit making a difference. After all, think
about it. The first between the two teams went nine innings,
two extra innings before Texas won that one. Somebody said,
with regard to that beer sales being down, they said,

(01:19:09):
except for LSU fans, right, remember Memorial Day was coming
off of the SEC tournament, or LSU got knocked out
in the semifinals by who was it that beat them
in the semifinal? Ole miss Ole miss beat them after

(01:19:30):
after LSU had knocked out Texas A and M in
the quarterfinals. With the Aggies hoped for run to try
to get to into a regional, and I think it
was largely said that they were going to have to

(01:19:53):
at the very least get to the tournament final, the
SEC tournament final, at the very least they going to
have to do that. And if they and then if
they got to the final, they might have a shot,
but they might even need to just get the auto
bid and all that kind of stuff. They have released

(01:20:17):
the times and dates for the Super Regions and if
you are interested, even with Texas out of it, I
can tell you this. The games will start on These
games will start on Friday. The way they do it
is half the games half the series start on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
The other have start on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
On Friday, it starts at two in the afternoon Central time,
Miami at Louisville all ACC matchup. That guarantees there will
be at least one ACC team in the College World Series.
Then you got Florida State at Oregon State. That's at

(01:20:55):
five o'clock our time. That's an ESPN two thing. So
and then.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
It's two o'clock in the afternoon from Miami and Louville
on Friday, and then ten o'clock in the morning our
time on Saturday for Game two Florida State and Oregon
State five in the afternoon on the ESPN two Friday,
eight o'clock at night on ESPN two on Saturday. Those
are the first two games. All the Sundays are TBD
because it depends on who's still alive and what series

(01:21:30):
are still going on. Also on Friday, Arizona, North Carolina
eleven o'clock in the morning on Friday on the ESPN two,
eleven o'clock in the morning on Saturday on the ESPN two,
and Coastal Carolina number thirteen playing at number four Auburn
eight o'clock at night Friday, ESPN two, two o'clock Saturday,

(01:21:52):
ESPN two. All right, and then these series are Saturday
Sunday Monday UTSA at UCLA six o'clock Saturday night at
ESPN U two o'clock Sunday afternoon TBD on the outlet
that would be on Murray State at Duke noon Saturday,

(01:22:14):
ESPN U eleven am TBD. And again those are the
ones waiting to see if either on those Friday Saturdays
if some of those had.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Been sweeps.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
So it's six o'clock Saturday, two o'clock Sunday for UTSA,
u c LA noon Saturday, eleven am Sunday UCLA, I
mean Murray State Duke West Virginia at LSU one o'clock
Saturday afternoon, five o'clock Sunday on ESPN two and Tennessee
at Arkansas four o'clock Saturday afternoon, two o'clock Sunday afternoon.

(01:22:50):
So that's where that is, and those are the those
are the times for the for the n Baseball Super Regionals. Again,
as we mentioned, it is seven o'clock or, as Cam
pointed out, probably more like seven fifteen by the time
they actually have the first pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Of all three games.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Wednesday tonight seven o'clock, Tomorrow, seven o'clock if necessary, Friday.
Remember it is the best of three, so if there
is a game three on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Then it would be at.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Seven o'clock as well, And all three of those games
are on the ESPN. Okay, We've got a couple other
topics I want to get to, and we'll get to
more of your questions coming up. We'll do that when
we continue here on thirteen under the.

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Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Rory McElroy finally spoke out on why he snubbed the media.

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Want me to play the audio?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Have it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
I can pull it up. Let's hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
I've seen the quotes. I think it's pretty interesting. Uh
but but yeah, let's let's hear it from it with
his own Northern Irish brogue. If you have Roy McElroy,
this is. This is at the Canadian Open, right, pre
tournament news conference, right, and I'm sure he was asked,

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why did you stiff the media all four days of
the PGA?

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
Look I and also like the driver stuff there was
I was a little pissed off because I knew that
Scotty's driver at field on Monday. But my minium was
the one that was leaked. That was supposed to stay confidential.
Two members of the media were the ones that leaked it,
So why you know? I And again, like I, I
didn't want to get up there and say something that

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I regretted either, you know, because there's a lot of
people that I'm trying to protect Scotty. I don't want
to mention his name trying to protect Taylor Made. I'm
trying to protect the USGA PG of America myself, you know.
So I just didn't want to get up there and
say something that I regretted at the time, and with
Scotty stuff like, that's not my information to share. I
knew that that had happened, but you know that's not

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you know, that's not on me to share that. And
I felt, you know, that process is supposed to be
kept confidential, and it wasn't for whatever reason. And you
know that's why I was. I was pretty annoyed at that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
He made that ninety percent about Scotti Scheffler's driver, what
about yours?

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
He was he was mad about it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
I mean they're both Taylor Made guys, right, Yeah, okay,
all right. His driver had been deemed non conforming earlier
in the week testing. It sounds like he was mad
that his name got reported and that Scotty, well it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Was it was split up. So there's there's a second
part here that I should probably you probably want to hear.
Let's let's hear this for some more content. The PJA
was a bit of a weird week. You know, I
didn't play well.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
I didn't play well the first day, so I wanted
to go practice, so that was fine. Second day we
finished li it. I wanted to go back and see
Poppy before she went to bed. The driver news broke.
I didn't really want to speak on that Saturday. I
was supposed to tee off at eight twenty in the morning.

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I didn't tee off until almost two o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Another le had finish. Didn't really was just tired.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
One to go home and then someday I just wanted
to get on the plane and go back to Florida.
So and then from a responsibility standpoint, look, I understand,
but you know, if we all wanted to, I could
we could all bypass you guys, and we could just
go on this and we could go on social media
and we could talk about a round and do it

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our own way. We understand that that's not that's not
ideal for you guys, And you know, there's a there's
a bigger dynamic at play here. And I talk to
you guys, and I talked to the media a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
I think there should be.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
I think there should be an understanding that there's this
is a two way street. And as as much as
you know we need to speak to you guys, you know,
we're sort of yeah, like this is we understand the
benefit that comes from you being here and giving us
the platform and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
So I understand that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:29):
But again, I've been beating this drum for a long time,
like if if they want to make it mandatory, that's fine,
but you know, in our rules it says that it's not.
And until the day that that's maybe written into the regulations,
you're gonna you're gonna have guys skip from time to time,
and that's that's well within our rights. You know, I've

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I've skipped my fair share of media requests over the years.
So it's not as if ye know it was it
was nothing to do with that. It was just some
days you don't you like talking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Yeah, it's a weird thing, this this deal with with
the PGA and the press conferences. Because he's right, He's correct,
they're not required to do it, but I think they
understand that it's kind of important to do it. If

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you if for no other reason is because your sponsor
wants you to do it. They want them out there,
and if they're skipping it or stiffing it or whatever,
chances are they're not going to be as publicly lauded
on a regular basis unless they're winning all the time.

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And it's the only major pro sport that I know
of where the competitors are not required to do a
post game or in this case, post round whatever news conference.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
They're not required.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
The PGA media relations guy gets along with all of
them and he kind of trying to make sure to
nudge him in and do that sort of thing, but
they're not required to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
The thing that's becoming more and more apparent because he's
not the first one I heard said. It was somebody
else that said it earlier this golf year. You know,
I don't have to be here at that more it
was a Colin more Kala as somebody else said, I
don't have to be here to do it, So everybody
gets that. I think that's a little bit badantic. I

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think that's a little bit you know, you guys should
be happy that the fact that we show up and
we're here. That that part kind of rubs me the
wrong way a little bit. But I also understand Rory
McElroy's complain about you know, hey, you know Scotty's driver

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wouldn't have his wasn't brought up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Mine was brought up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Well, you're both Taylor made guys, so that probably it's
going to turn the attention. And we all found out
soon enough about Scotty's driver, didn't we. So you know,
like like he says, it's a two way street, I
think I think both sides probably there could be some
give and take on this deal and whether he likes

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it or not, and he kind of made a reference
to it. Whether he likes it or not. How you
play is going to be correlated with how you perceived.
If you skip a postmatch news conference, postgame news conference,

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you don't play well, and then you don't do it,
then you looked at as being pudy, and you know
that sort of thing. If you play well and then
you come in and it's all smiles and stuff like that,
but then don't show up when it doesn't worry, and
then you're viewed as being a sun a sunshine soldier.
You just you're out there when things are good, but

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not but when they're not, so it's it's it's a
it's a tight rope a little bit. It's a balance,
a balancing act that both the golfers and the reporters
have to go by. And and by the way, it
wasn't any specific writer who wrote that it was serious.
XMPGA to a radio who reported that the driver had

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been deemed non conforming and testing earlier in the week
by the USGA and that he couldn't use it in
the tournament, okay, And then later the PGA of America
later confirmed it asked the USGA to conduct testing at
Quail Hollow where they had the tournament, and said about
fifty drivers had their fifty players and their drivers inspected,

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and the testing results were supposed to remain confidential. So
that's that's what got him irritated about that. So what
that tells me is somebody from Sirius XMPGA to a
radio knew somebody in the testing room and got the list,

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or at least got win of Hey, your master's champion,
who's going for the second of the four Majors this
year as a driver that's non conforming. Maybe he hadn't
heard the results of Scotti Scheffler's test yet, but he
went with it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
And that's what got Rory unhappy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
I understand it if you get upset or don't like
the way Rory talks about, like not having to speak
to the media. But as you mentioned, it's the only
sport where the players are not required to speak. And
in other leagues, if a player skips out, he is fined.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
So I understand from Roy's perspective or any other golfer's perspective,
you go out there, you're shoot an eighty five or
your driver has felt the test, and you know, Okay,
I'm gonna get hammered for this, and I'm gonna be
asked about this, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Don't feel like talking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
I understand that a lot of our jobs and a
lot of life you have to talk, even on days
you don't feel like talking. Right, there are days where
we do this show and we don't feel like doing
this show. But that's part of it. That's part of
our job, even when we don't have a great day.
And for Rory and the golfers, you know, it is
a little bit you know, I don't know unfair is
the right word, but hey, they can skip out, you know,

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if Rory was up by a shot going to eighteen
and May double Bogan lost the terment he could speak,
could skip out like he did at the US Open
last year at Pineers, where he skipped out on the
media and he got a lot of blowback for that.
Having said that, Rory is one of the more thoughtful
I think athletes of this golfing generation. He's been more
than willing with his time. I mean the whole PGA

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Tour live split. That was Rory Malcroy, who was the
face of the PGA Tour. He was speaking when Jay
Monahan would not speak. I think he's up there with
Jordan Speed in terms of guys who are great when
it comes to the media and being available and telling
you what's on their mind and being thoughtful about it,
not just saying, not just coach speaking stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
So send that apartment.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
The second part of it, which is the boring part,
but the driver's stuff that's on Taylor Made. Taylor Made
is the one that screen over their players here, whether
it's Scotty or Roy, because it's their equipment. But no
one from Taylor Maid has to go and speak to
the media on Thursday or Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
They could put out a pr statement, but they didn't
because it's supposed to be private. So now you have
Roy McCrory, Scotti Scheffler having to speak on behalf.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Of Taylor Maids with their cheese out in the win.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Exactly, it's Taylor Made whose driver has failed the players.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
The players aren't. They're not.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
It's not like Nascar in the garage having some extra
torque or something that that they're in there with it.
They're just having the driver's ship to them, right. Yeah,
they're not standing over there watching. Have you seen those
l like golf commercials with the shamba The ones are
certain like he's in there and putting them to come on.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
And not at all these tournaments Taylor Made titleists, Cobra
who however, they have their reps on site.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
There are equipment guys on site.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Technically they're supposed to test the equipment beforehand, tell the players,
hey this this driver's conforming, or hey it's non conforming.
You might want to switch it up in case they
test you this week. Remember, testing is not mandatory, just
like speaking to the media is not mandatory. So there
is a lot of crap that golf is like fifteen
years behind and like it's so close to like being

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such a like a primetime sport, considering you have bryceon
and Roy and Scotty going to head the head. But
there's a little things like this to just keep, you know,
bringing the game back. And if you're watching or you're
looking on Twitter, it's like, man, these guys sound all
stuck up. But I do agree with Rory there. I
think because if he had spoken to me on Thursday,
he would have been asked about the driver. It would
have been asked about Scotty's driver, and he would have

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had the speaking spoken speak whatever it is, spoke on
behalf of Taylor mate, and really it's not his job
to do so, but he knew it was coming and
I understand it. I think the best way to do
this is just you make it mandatory for golfers to
speak after each round.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
And I think it should be in Andry.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
If it's a non conforming driver, you have a rep
from the company that'd be great to speak for, or
just you just test all this equipment beforehand so we
know so we don't have the issue beforehand before we break.
It reminds me story when Charlie Strong was the head
football coach at Texas. Obviously it was a difficult time.
It's a difficult time for the program, very difficult time

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for Charlie. We do long worn weekly every week. Charlie
was the one who wanted it back out in a
public setting because with Mac Brown we got away from that.
And the coaches is just a heck of a lot
easier if they're not out in a venue in public,

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because they're coming straight from the practice field. I cannot
tell you how many times, whoever the head coach was
Tom Herman or Charlie Strong or Sark or mac Brown,
it was a scramble and has been over the years
to get them there in time, sometimes not even on times.
Same thing with basketball, so it's a difficult thing to

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make happen.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
There was one night, and this was I think his
final year, when things were not going well, and he
shows up and he got there in time, and the
show starts on time, and I could tell that there
was a noticeable lack of energy from Coach Strong. I
could tell when we went through the first segment, and

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I mean he scarcely looked at me. It was almost
like he was like staring off in the space. But
he answered the questions and we got through the first segment,
we got to the break, he took off the headset.
I took off my heads and he looked at me
and he said, Craig, I'm sorry. He said, some nights
I just don't feel like talking ball. And I felt
for him because I knew it'd been a tough going.

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I said, that's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
I said, be that as it may. We have fifty
more minutes of a show to do. I told him.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
He goes, I know, I know, and then he was
fine from there on now. So that came to mind,
and thinking about all this, we'll be back to wrap
up today's program.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I'm thirteen under the Zone.