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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Los Angeles Commonsen's a five dollars silver cour car. Show's
going back before that start, It's the Craig Way Show
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with the voice of the Texas Longhorns and Hall of
Fame broadcaster Craig.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That was Hounds. Her Davis called it on Fox last night.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
A little later on we'll let you hear Steven Nelson's
call on I think it's k L I C A M.
Five seventy in Los Angeles, the Dodgers Audio Network with
the Freddie Freeman walk off home run to win Game
three of the World Series and the leading off the
bottom of the eighteenth last night on the three to
two pitch and uh and the Dodgers of a two
game to one lead.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Gene Watson, of course is our MLB insider and GINO
when the from off. So the Chicago White Sox was
due to join us later in the week, but after
that epic game last night, I reached out to him
at two eight a m. And said, any changeing, come on,
got to have you on themor if you can come on,
not realizing that Gene Watson was out on a cruise
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ship in the middle of a body of water.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Is it the Gulf? Is it the Pacific Ocean? Is
the Atlantic?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Go?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He's joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Right now live on a cruise ship. How you doing, Gino?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm great, Craig, what a night. We're actually headed to
Coasta Maya, Mexico right now.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Coasta Maya than Costamel. So uh, this uh, this tech
was rocky by Roll Caribbean.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hey listen and and and thank Melanie for for the
loaning you to us for a few minutes here. If
I had known you were on a cruise, yeah, I
was still want to ask you if you could come
on because this game was just amazing. Uh last night,
just a tremendous baseball get First of all, did I'm
not sure were you even able to watch any of
it from your perspective? I know, obviously all the intel
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that you get and all the reports and everything that
you get, so you know exactly everything that happened to
the ballgame.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But you did you even get a chance to watch it?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
We did.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
We actually, my son and I watched just about every
pitch of it, and then you know, we finally retired
Durk Cabin and you know, you know, my wife's a
big October baseball girl. She loves October baseball. You can't
get anything from April to September, but she loves to
watch the playoffs. And I was actually just fading off
when Freddie hit the home run, and.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
So what just a great game. We had friends that
were at the game.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I don't I mean, I mean, it's just amazing the
star power that was in the game, the future Hall
of Famers, all the storylines, but just to get into it,
like what Will Klein did, Yeah, was unbelievable. Four innings
hadn't been stretched out. He was in Arizona at home
a month ago. Didn't even know he was going to
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be on the playoff roster until Vestia got taken off,
and just incredible. We drafted Will out of Eastern Illinois
and Kansas City. He was traded to the Mariners, put
on waivers, the Dodgers claim him. And that's what it
takes in games like this, because when you get into
the underbelly of your bullpen, you know, it's really really
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hard to navigate through these two powerful lineups. And that's
what made the game so unique, is like everybody's underbelly
of the bullpen performed to their highest maximum level, which
got us to the eighteenth inning. But the Freddie Freeman
home run unbelievable. What sho Hail Toddy did incredible. But
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Will Klein is actually the big hero of that game
last night.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Could not agree with you more.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I completely agree, and I want and that's part of
the reason I wanted you to come on was to
tell a little bit about Will Clein's journey.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
All all I knew about Klein was this.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
He had been dfaed by Oakland in January, and then
you mentioned the Mariners. They ended up working the deal.
He'd been dfa'ed twice. For folks who don't know what
that is, it's designated for assignment. You accept the minor
league asignment or you released. And then and then I
saw him a couple of times, even watching, like I
mentioned earlier in the program, I've seen maybe one hundred
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and twenty of the Dodgers games this year, and I'd
seen him a couple of times, and he wasn't really impressive.
He can't really struggle to find the strike zone and
all this stuff. And like you said, he was sitting
down there in Arizona, all of a sudden he comes out,
and you know, my wife asked me he said.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Who is this guy? And I said, he's just a
big gingy, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
And he gets out there and just had command of
the strike zone all I could see him getting tired
in that last inning that he worked, top of the eighteenth.
But how much, like you said, you guys drafted him
with the Royals, how much did you know about him
coming out of Eastern Illinois.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
First time I ever saw him pitch was on the
backfields in Peoria with the Mariners president to Poto, whose
son Jonah was actually his roommate in the minor leagues.
And so the Mariners obviously had a great deal of
interest in based on that look. And Craig, you know,
as you move along the developmental path, and you're a
super talented pitcher and Will Klein at a time was
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arguably one of the best hidden secrets in professional baseball
and just sa super high ceiling, great arm, great stuff.
But as you move along the developmental path, sometimes there
can be friction between you as a player and what
you think is best for your development and the organization
and what they think is best for development. And and
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sometimes when that happens, organizations, rather than coming alongside the
player and seeing their vision for what they think their
career is.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
They just move along.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
And so you know, he's he's been dfa'd a couple
of times, but certainly I think that the first time
any anybody ever saw him in pro ball, they would
tell you they're not surprised at what he did. It's
taken him a little while. The journey has been incredible
for him, but he is certainly.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
On the map now.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
And knowing Will and his makeup and his competitive spirit,
that was a big night for his career last night,
and I looked forward to seeing just a wonderful young man.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I can't wait to see how it goes for and
moving forward.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Gene Watson joining us from a cruise ship here to
talk about the World Series on Sports Radio AM thirteen
Under the Zone. He was definitely the most stand out
guy working the four scoreless innings. I want to get
your thoughts on the other guys, Ed Garter Enriquez a
couple of scoreless innings.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
There for the Dodgers. She and did his job.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Roki Sasaki continues to pitch well in the postseason. And
how about Clayton Kershaw coming in and folks look at said, well,
he's a Hall of Famers as he's only got to
get one guy out. To walk into that situation in
the twelfth with the bases loaded, knowing you're being asked
to get one out, but it's a you know, a
goshdarn huge out when he walks to the mound there.
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And I thought Freddie Freeman made a really good point,
you know, when he said the first pitch was an
eighty nine mile an hour slider he said, and I thought, wow,
we got to throw back Clayton here. But he had
to work it into full camp before he got that
little tap roller out to get out of the inning.
But that was another just a unique development of that
ball game last night.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
And you know, there's only a few players in the
world that are built for that moment, and Clayton Kershaw
is certainly one of those. And when he steps on
the mound, the Toronto Blue Jays don't see eighty nine
to ninety two Clayton Kirkshaw, you know, on the last
leg of his career. They see the back of the
uniform and it says Clayton Kershaw, and they know they're
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gonna get his very best And what a huge moment
for him. I love the videos of his family absolutely
panicking in the moment and then being so celebratory after
it happened. But you know, Hernandez that great, big arm,
but he threw strikes more than he typically does. She
I mean, that's what I'm talking about, the underbelly of
the Dodgers, and it speaks to the expectation levels. They
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know that it's twenty six men and they know that
everybody's gonna have to pull the rope. And that's certainly
what got us to eighteen innings, and that's certainly the
reason they won the game last night.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
All right, let me get your insight. You've been in
the clubhouses after dramatic wins and losses in postseason play,
from your time with the Braves, with the Marlins, with
the Podres, obviously with the Royals as well. How about
your thoughts take us inside the clubhouses, and I guess
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it's easier the perspective of the Dodgers since they were
the winners. Although it was weird seeing Yamamotos starting to
warm up, that's what it had come down to. But
they could come back with Otani, who has that incredible
offensive game last night. That's going to go to the
mound and pitch. So about your thoughts first of all,
of the mindset and the physiology and the middle approach
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of the Dodgers going into this game, and then we'll
get your same thoughts about the blue Jays.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Well, it's certainly still early enough in the series. Had
that been Game five or six, I think it's more
of a gut punch for the Blue Jays. But but
Snyder's done such a great job of building the identity
and the makeup of this club, and they certainly don't
feel like they're out of it by any means. We
talked last week about what that fifteen inning game did
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to the Seattle Mariners, and it was taxing, you know,
to have to come back the very next day and
play again tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know, the Blue Jays are a little bit on
the ropes right now.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
They feel like we gotta win tonight, and I think
getting out to an early lead is gonna be super
important because if the Dodgers jump out, I think that's
gonna have a little more effect on the teams than
last night's lost because they're on the ropes right now.
But I don't think Snyder's gonna allow that to happen.
He's done a great job of reshaping the identity of
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the ball club, the clubhouse, the leadership. But it's going
to be really important. And I mean, Mike gosh, you
know we we got to see the home run and
the walk off, what those players went through after the
game with the media and the medical and you know
their families. You know, Dot, you've been a Dodger stadium.
Though they stopped selling beer in the eighth inning, it
went out of a more inning, so or ten more innings,
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so like you know, now you're calling restaurants to get
late reservations overnight to eat dinner. I mean, it completely
throws out the routine of a regular game and the
toll that it takes on the position player's body. Like
I will bet you everything that there's it's show and
go today.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
There's no BP. I'd be surprised if there's BP on
the field.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Uh, you know, the workload is going to be so
much lighter, especially in a time where Major League teams
are are paying so much attention to workload management. Tonight
is going to be a real interesting game from fatigue standpoint.
I feel like if the Dodgers can jump out and
get ahead of early. They've got the Blue Jays on
the ropes.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Shane Bieber will start for Toronto tonight. He was starting
to get loose down in the bullpen, didn't get hot,
heated up, but he would have been the next guy,
just as Yamamoto would have been the next guy for
the Dodgers. The difference is Yamamoto on one day's rest
was not going to be the starter for Game four tonight.
That's obviously you know showe A Otani and I thought
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it was interesting. Tom Verducci asked, show A, how do
you feel now? How are you going to be able
to fill tomorrow? And the only thing he said was
I need to get to bed as soon as possible.
You know his routine, and we've read of his routine
about sleeping ten eleven hours, that sort of thing to
get himself into that. How about from the starting pitcher perspective,
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Bieber for Toronto and Otani for the Dodgers tonight.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Well, Bieber had to get hot, and there's no way
that doesn't tax him a little bit from a how
many pitches he can throw tonight's standpoint. So the Toronto
bullpen is going to really have to step up, and
and that that those two guys being up is a
testimony to how important the managers felt that game was,
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because you know, you want to stay in line. You
don't want to give up two games just to win
one when when you've got the depth that these two
teams have.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So that that spoke.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
A lot to how where the managers felt like, Hey,
if we can win this game, we're in the driver's seat.
Show Hey, I mean the last person that I'm worried
about being prepared for tonight to show hail TONI. He will,
he will pivot on his routine. He'll manage it a
little bit differently today, but it's going to be really
interesting and biab. You know. Also coming off the sixty
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day I l late in the season and then to
have to throw a pin and get hot the night
before a start, that's a little bit of a different
routine for him. So it'll be interesting to see how
he comes out.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Final thing here.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
As long as you've been around the game, those who
have been around the game and managed the game, or
played the game, or broadcast the game, or wrote about
the game, whatever, they've all been asked a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Anyway, in the last eighteen hours. Where this game ranks.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Dave Roberts quote was it's one of the greatest World
Series games of all time, is the way he described it,
and I think most people will agree with that from
what you see and you think about this. There was
the eighteen inning Game three against Boston in twenty nineteen
or twenty eighteen that Max Munsey hit the walk off
home run, But the Red Sox, I think everybody knew
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that was only delaying the inevitable. The Red Sox were
definitely far and away the best team that year and
went on and won the series in five games. There
was the Kirk Gibson home run in eighty eight, the
crazy Game six of the Mets Red Sox in eighty six,
the Buckner ground ball. There's so many other big, big
moments that have happened in World Series played. Where does
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this does this for you rank in terms of World
Series all time performances.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I think it's up at the top because you've got
so many Hall of Famers on the field. You've got
guys whose careers are ending, Max Shus or Clayton Kershall,
You've got arguably the greatest player to ever put on
a baseball uniform uh in the series, and you've got
a team going for back to back World championships. What
hasn't hasn't happened in in you know, twenty plus years.
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So just and the and the last thing, and I
said it last week, is the global impact of this series.
Everybody in the world is watching this series. You know,
thirteen players from eight different countries, the Latin American players involved, Japan.
You've got the entire country of Canada watching, and you've
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got arguably the largest market on the West Coast watching.
So just a global aspect, I mean, this game is
the talk of sports today across the country.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
And watch what happens on viewership tonight.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Your common baseball fan is going to be watching tonight
based on last night's baseball game.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
No doubt about it. Hey, Geno, I appreciate the time.
Thank you for allowing me to interrupt the cruise. I
should thank Mellanye for allowing me to interrupt the cruise.
Continue to enjoy it and we'll talk when the series
is all said and done.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I appreciate it, all right, that's thanks. That's an Island
time service. Yeah, well, we got it. We got it.
In just in time there before the dropouts. So it
was good.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
They're good stuff there from Gene Watson. What a ball
game last night, as he mentioned, and this is where
we insert the phrase the always pivotal Game four in
the best of seven series when it's two games to one,
made even more pivotal because of what happened last night
in game three.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, so absolutely that.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
We'll see where it goes from the all right, up next,
we have inconceivable a lot of people would think that
that game was inconceivable. There's another connective tissue to the
Dodgers or Dodgers Stadium in specific with regard to inconceivable,
and it's in the file that's next here on sports
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.