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April 21, 2023 23 mins
Eric Bellinger came by The Cruz Show to talk about his new album. he also told us a story about Beyonce making him sign a NDA, writing with Selena Gomez. Eric also talked about song writers being boxed in, where he keeps all of his Grammys & Instagram Verification Checks. Eric also talked about being obsessed with Golf, working with Hitmaka & his new project and music with Cordae & Fabolus.
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Yo, it's good as your boy, Eric Bellinge. Right now you're rocking
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It's easy, easy, only you. DJ Fulds got the plug right
now. I see him looking atmy woman, all my ladies and I've

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been meeting in the rank. Youboy, you read me closer love and
the feeling feel like his hosted.Let's go Eric Bellingers on the Cruise Show
once again. Y'all love that,yo. That's DJ fus, d J
fused the muse the muse, y'allfused like threw his drop in there.

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I love his customer. Oh yeah, I had to do that to let
people use the custom dove on aintro. Listen, we go back.
You gotta let people know, justlike you gotta let people know how mean
he hits. You've written, Myguy, we've been here. We've been
not only have we lived here,we not knew that this this love that
man. Yes, Eric Blingers behindsome of the biggest hits in the world,

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ladies and gentlemen. Of course hisown as well. Eric Belinger,
man, you're our guy. Congratulations. Always come through for cruise cares.
You always have this great energy aboutyou. You've never switched stuff from day
one. Nah, but two yearsago you're the same guy, my brother.
Man, thanks that man, appreciateit. Yeah, man, let's
let's show a little more love toDJ Fuse. I was a c Yeah,

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that was beautiful. He took hintsfrom me down memory lane, got
me hype, got me feeling myself. Thank you man. Yeah, you
want to do a show right now? Yeah, I'm ready like a guy
over one billion streams, yes,come on, Eric being billy boys,
let's go. We got Billy Bollinger, Billy James what they call him,

(01:49):
over billions billions. He's like,hold on, I got you Bars,
that's right Bars man. Yo.The album one hundred hit easy Line is
out now. A single's Curious featuringCorday fabulous of course of course, why
something new and then there's Zerk Bellinger. That's it man, it works out
man. Yeah. Man, what'sthe writing process with you about? Like?

(02:10):
Because you are really a writer yestmusic with words first right and melodies?
Yes? Um? So what's thatprocess like? Is there intimid day?
Do people walk in like? Idon't know? Man? You write
a dog. You're the one whowho writes the best music, right,
Nah, the sessions are are dope. Man. Like, Um, when
I when I'm writing a song,it's dope because every time I write a

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song, the next song that Iwrite I'm more particular about because I've already
said that now, you know.So with me writing so many songs,
I'm not repeating a type of song. So it's causing me and forcing me
to be even more unique than I'veever been. Yeah. Yeah, and
you got to be unique, right, but you're constantly pulling from where to

(02:51):
be you man, stories true stories. Every time I'm thinking of of a
of a concept or the first lineon the song first, I'm getting inspired
by the music. So when Igot the music loading and there's eight bars
on loop, that's the process whenI'm thinking of a left approach on melody
and a way to say something differentbut the same thing that we always say.

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Sure, that's it, you know. So I'm literally just thinking of
when you're like double Dutch, like, Okay, how do I jump in
that no one's gonna expect And whatcan I say that everyone wishes they would
have said because we say it everyday, you know. It's like being
on the radio we do. Wegotta say the same things every day,
but we gotta say it in adifferent way. Yeah, yeah, for

(03:36):
real, we gotta think of differentways. We just don't get platinum plocks.
We gotta pay. You're gonna getone for curious. We'll take it
amazing. Let it go on video, come on, come on. You
know you know, I think thereason why you've had longevity and people seek
your abilities as a songwriter as what'sbecause you make it easy to work.

(03:59):
I'm assuming make it easy to work. You make it like yeah, yeah,
that's and that's that speaks to theway you work, like yeah,
man, we have multiple, multiplesongs. It's just about okay, which
one should we drop now? It'snever a shortage of music, um around
here. We got the records.Just about the plans and you know what
I'm saying and what makes the mostsense and strategy and marketing, like I

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believe all that is just as importantas the record. Absolutely, what's up,
jacking and how's it writing with artists? Other artists I know you've written
going So my process of writing withpeople is first having conversation, how's your
day, how's your life? Becausewhen I'm writing my song. I know
what to write, but when I'mwriting a song that I want them to
be connected to, I first haveto see how they're really feeling on the

(04:42):
inside. Has anyone ever been abummer? Like you'll come back next week?
Man, we can't write a songabout this, no, because we
write that. Yeah, whatever you'regoing through, you know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly, I'm like,what happened to you? What they
did this, and they did that? And whether it's a happy story,
sorry or a horror story, it'sa testimony feels for other artists. Yes,

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when I first started writing, itwas dope because I was I was
able to get to know people andI and I'm a loyal guy, you
know what I mean. Anything somebody'slike really said to me is like,
this is strictly for the song.I'm not going to chatter about it.
I ain't. This is us andme trying to get to know you so
I can give you what you want. So you gotta sign a lot of

(05:24):
NBA's then I have, yeah,yes, for sure, to mind our
business. Yeah right, yeah,you reaction when you got an NBA for
the first time, Man, yance, I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta join, And I was like, what were doing? Yeah, it's
easy because it was just to write, and it was I went into her

(05:45):
space. You know, she's sharinghow she feels. She's talking to me
about what she wants her next albumto be about, you know, So
me to take that and go anywhere, it's like, that's against my character
anyway. Sure, absolutely doing theright thing. Yeah, doing the right
thing. Man. It was seeingthat paper though, made it. I
was like, it's just business ina way. Uh yeah, but that's
what this is. This is business, you know what I mean? And

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didn't say it just hurts at thecarters. You can't talk about Blue Ivy.
You said that, you said thatwe must protect every brother protect I
loved you. So when you're writingwith like a ciliar gold mess right,

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Like, where does that go?She's such a down earth beautiful person.
Yo. That was that was first, like you know, big place man
to where they asked me to stayon the song. You know, I
wrote I wrote a record that wasan R and B pop song and wrote
the rap verse because they said itwas going to be one of the Disney
guys. So in my mind,I'm like, what's a bad day compared
to the weight of the world.You know. That was converse and they

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were like, hey, we wantto keep you on there. I was
like, no, I want anew one. I was writing for some
kids in Cody. Yeah, that'swhat I thought. I was, Cody,
Cody Bellinger. What did you doto the Dodgers? Let's go that

(07:13):
was legs miss remember that leg Yeah, we're playing a game one time,
like name three Dodger players and Isaid, Ark Belinger, Ye, Halloween
cost he re tweeted me after that. I was like, oh, bro,
we found now yet forget about Yoone hundred hit, Easy Line too
out now Fire project. You know, down you're never disappointed. He brings

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quality music, and there's a lotof quality in what you do because it
is your heart and your soul andthe lyrics you're writing. Right, there's
a lot of songwriters out there thatmake it up to the front of the
line, I guess right, mainstage and they become the artist. Yeah.
That's always great to see. Yeah, man, that's always good to

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see. It's it's a tough transition, but you know, if you're zilient,
if you keep coming with that musicand you keep using the know as
fuel, believe in yourself, keepinnovating and doing different things to reinvent yourself,
just like the greats like MJ.One time he was Jerry Curll,
another time he was an Afro.Take those things into consideration. Sure.
Sure, a lot of writers inthe beginning, they get shafted, I

(08:20):
guess for like, yeah, man, I think a lot of artists and
a and rs and labels look ata songwriter as a provider for them,
you know, so as a songwritermost times, yes, yes, for
sure, Like Yo, we needa record, And to me, it's
like I welcome that with open arms. I'm a servant of the game.
Cool. I'm coming to write whateveryou need. You want me to write

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another one. It's it's late atnight. I don't care, because this
one song could change my life andyours. Yea, sir, you got
to think about it that way.That's bigger picture talk. Bigger picture talk.
You feel like that hashtag season that'syours, That's that's yours. You
always come through for cruise cares too. I love you, man. I
have to bro, bro, wedon't call you, you call us.

(09:05):
It's the cause. Man. Iwas like, Yo, what's up?
Bro? It is it time?Is it like I still got time to
bring something? Yes sir, yessir, Yeah, you're futtle busk.
Yeah. Favorite features on the project. Favorite feature it's got to be the
fab in Corday. Man, it'sso crazy, it's so crazy, like
this is a big time record.It is um and I'm excited about it.

(09:26):
Man. The sample D'Angelo, thankyou, the whole, the whole
statement. The lady uh joint wasone of my favorite songs back in the
day. And to now have itas my single, you know, it's
like this is big time. Yeah, that's music, just like almost like
a full circle moment. Yes,an R and B artist for sure.

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Man, time you remember that D'Angelovideo? Oh yeah, pause, oh
right, right right right, thatwas the standard for the R standards.
It's like, man, no frills, no thrills, no no uh,
no camera production edit, no postman with his shirt off, one man
with his shirt off with a brandnew body going courage you now. Now,

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now you see something that the ladiesthey want to be with them,
and the guys you got an exampleto be like them, Yes sir,
yes, sir. Eric Bellingers hereon eight easy Line too. The Internet
says you're worth five million. It'smore than playing with them. Why is
the internet line? I'm playing withhim? Start playing with him. The
thing is you can't add up publishing. Good luck. That part is still

(10:33):
configuring. It's buffing, it's buffering, it's buffering twenty right now, Okay,
we understand, I get back toWe understand. We're still loading,
still loading. Finally off of tour, coming back home. Where are you
taking vacations? Yes, I'm aboutto go to Santorini, Greece. Here,

(10:58):
man, I'm about to go outthere and work, let my hair
down, be on the you know, being the sand um by yourself.
You're taking your family, wife,you only yes, and uh leaving the
kids beyond. Yeah, they gota chill good. That's good. That's
good. I mean the time withjust why, you know what I mean,
that's different. You know, that'swhat my real recharge. It's my

(11:20):
best friend. You know, wegot that relationship that is really one that
I pray for. You know,Yeah, man, makes you a better
writer, it does, it reallydoes. Man. She keeps me feeled
and you know, makes me feellike I've made it. She makes me
feel like I don't have anything toreally worry about, because our life and

(11:41):
us together is just enough, youknow. So it takes off the the
chips on the shoulder, it takesaway the stress or, it takes away
the me feeling inadequate because she justkeeps me full of love. Man,
isn't that great? That's I'm tryingto get. Let you there, let
you you know, let you stilla wild man? Oh yeah, yeah,

(12:01):
the one. I'm a funny one. You gotta be the one,
though, because be the wrong one. Yeah, it's terrifying. Yeah,
but you have to go through afew wrong ones fully and you have to
be prepared for that, and youhave to fight that head on, yeah,
because it doesn't want to keep theline and get to the right one
right around. But I've also hadthe right ones, but I chose the
wrong ones. Yeah. Yeah,so you've learned a lesson. Yeah,
much like the record you spoke aboutwith Cavin fair On on the project.

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I know that devil, but Ineed that. You re say, body
like a angels, you know,just a fan of the bbl Are you
outside? Who is side note?I got some growing up to do it

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outside. Hey, I respect it, I respect it, But man,
that love no, No, it'swhen it's right. Yeah, it's Jackie
just moved in with a man forthe first time. And how you feeling
it? Are you supporting each other? We're supporting each other. He's gotten
a little bit more annoying since Imoved Keep him, Nico Blitz. Oh
that's my that's my dog. Hey, do write. You know what I'm

(13:11):
saying, do right? You knowwhat I mean? You treat her good
and she'll treat you better. Man, That's it's crazy. Yeah. Let
you we gotta get you there,bro. I know you take it for
the team, you know what Imean. When you're dating and they're vibing,
I dare you to just give themyour all, like try, like
really try for real? Yeah no, or you have no no no no.

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So where I'm married, it's kindof like I've been trying to set
the foundation for myself so when Ido embark in a relationship, I like,
finance should be able to say crazyahead of a household and yeah,
just kind of look, look thisis what you can That's what you can
think of too, because when youlike, all right, become just that
sole provider for the women, thenit becomes that rather than somebody with you

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when you're working on it. Youknow what I'm saying, because it's like,
oh, you with me when I'mgrinding someone in the pizza their own
money. So I'm picky, likeit's twenty twenty three, So I like,
crazy, she better come into therelationship making a hundred thousand a year.
I'm sorry, she needs to letyou know. I know that's a

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lot. That's a lot. Idon't that's a lot. They don't settle,
bro, I'm saying. It soundslike he's not. I'm not going
to forget about it out, butI do. I love you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, I keeptoo far with let your mentality because then
you end up settling because it becomestoo late in the game. Lay Yeah,
man, I think I think thatI love and and somebody to help

(14:35):
you build your own castle. It'snothing like it because imagine you has the
whole castle. Now, everybody thatthat tries to highlight you, you don't
know if they're really there for youor you know, the the ninety four
inch big screen. Man, whatif we both have our own castle and
then we come together and we goto their own castle. I like that
too. But nowadays, if agirl, a woman built her own castle,

(14:58):
she got a lot of knights.That's a fact. That's a fact.
I got it. I gotta keepit real. And she had.
But I mean they're gonna be youknow what I mean, a lot of
armor on the floor in that bedroomtalking about my future. Bro, She's

(15:20):
already lived for the knights right now. She's lit. But you you being
lit too though, I get that, you know what I mean. We'll
see, We'll see here. We'regonna get it right. Man. I
definitely want my mom to be aground must soon. You know what I'm
saying. Who speak on it?Put it in. There's a beautiful thing
it is. Man, Let metogether. He respects, he respects and

(15:41):
loves the foundation. I think,so I want to build a good foundation.
You know. I think it's partof his background too, to keep
going on this. But he's got, he's got. He's got a pretty
interesting background. And how he wascreated, Yeah, of course out of
love, but it was us.It's a different story, got it all
right. I don't know the backstory, the situation. They don't want to
repeat the cycles, Okay, Igotta get the whole out of it.

(16:03):
Right, No, that's good theproduct of affair. Okay, Okay,
So now he's like, all right, I want to make sure that I'm
standing in the gap for that.Yeah energy, Yeah, you gotta find
love. Yeah, it's out there, man. I think it's I think
it's more women out there that thatare down, you know, than we
think. You know that. Iknow it's tough times. I know.
Um, you know, the Grahamgot people thinking and looking crazy. But

(16:25):
yeah, it's so good. Justkeep going for it. Just keep going
for it, mancourage you're throwing offlike the homies that were suddenly verified that
you grew up with sea Yeah,because honestly, that was like my way
to say, if I really wantto just work with somebody off top or
not, like, let me lookinto this. But now everyone in there
is like, all right, Ididn't figure out another filter. Maybe they

(16:45):
should, like, you know,have a different colored check marks for people.
Ooh nah. They wouldn't have boughtit. They wouldn't. It wouldn't
have bought it. It was onlytrying to get that bread. You see
how much they made that was crazy. That was genius. They built the
demand and then it was like,yeah, we're ready so like what happens
if you can't pay your for yourblue check mark, you miss a payment,

(17:06):
they repot your page where they gotto do auto pay? Bro,
it's gotta be auto pay Yo oneeight hundred hit easy line tools out now
Quality music once again, Eric Bellinger, this is our guy. So much
to talk to you about, man, honestly, So when you're working with
Hitmaker right, like you know,there was that whole situation between hit Boy
and Hitmaker, right, both greatand their own right for sure? Yeah?

(17:27):
Right, Hitmaker is a producer inhis own right, right. Do
you have to press buttons to bea producer? Nah? If you ask
Quincy Jones, it's a no.You know what I'm saying. So everybody
has different approaches. Um, butwhen you say someone is who's a better

(17:47):
producer, you know we can wecan go back and forth, you know
what I mean. I think forhit Boy it's like yo, but when
we talking musicianship, stop playing withme. I'm going crazy. But they
just weren't talking about music and shit. So it was like, I know,
hit Meger was just like yo,I'll just be going for radio.
You know what I'm saying. That'sit. That's all I'm saying and hit
boys like cool. I'm going fortimeless music that will last me forever.

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Two different approaches. Yeah, Ithink they're both genius, Yes sir,
they've both figured it out, Yessir. And as far as the radio
side goes, we appreciate that.Keep trust in business radio exactly exactly.
So it's like, you know,I love them both. Everybody has a
different task assignment on their life thatGod gives us, you know what I
mean. So this is your lane, this is your lane. We both

(18:32):
can coincide and we're good. Yeah, you're playing golf a lot? Oh
yeah, yeah, playing golf andlove and it can't wait about being a
distraction. I don't play, butI see what happens, right when people
play golf, they become consumed byit takes so much of your day.
Like when I play, I don'tbe always trying to do eighteen holes.

(18:52):
It takes like seven hours. Yeah, you know what's the best, it's
now we're the best golfing. It'sno longer record. Hey, Hey,
I love that dude. Nobody brandsbetter than him, nobody marks better than
him. It's like I'm coming fromyou, calic, I'm like, oh
my god, bro, like Ilove you know what I'm saying. So
when I see him, like hemakes me feel like I don't play golf
at all, you know what I'msaying. And that's just how crazy,

(19:15):
that's how crazy he goes with it. He goes hard. It makes you
feel like you play miniture golf.Schoolboy Q two we lost him to the
golf gol I've seen him. I'veseen a post with him. I hain't
swing. I thought it was justone of the viral pages like, oh
look at schoolboy Q. Who wasPGA? It was it was their page.
I was like, oh, he'soutsid, he's on the green.

(19:38):
Oh my. But like that's abig picture, Like that's a whole different
avenue where it is like trying toterritory where you could actually make money from.
Yeah, oh, big time business, big time. I'm doing a
tournament soon. I just seen apostcup today. They gave me my own
little picture. You feel me.We outside, you outside, outside,
outside, moving quietly. Yeah,yes, sir, got to do it.

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Where do you keep the Grammys?Eric Grammy's I got this room with
all the plaques I got, Igot, I got the the bing my
eyes. Everything in there, Grammy, everything is just in my in the
crib studio. You know, Igot a studio outside of the house,
but then I got the little crib. Yeah, you know, special stuff.

(20:21):
The kids accidentally ever taken one ofthe No, they know not,
but that's because it's the room thatyou can't go in. It makes them
want to go in there more likelike like eve biting and the apple,
you know what it's like. Theyknow that that supposed to going there.
So every day can we go inthe studio? Like no, bro't going
in What do you feel when youwalk into that smaller studio? Oh?
Man, what are your motions like? Seeing all the plaques? See you

(20:45):
know, what do you feel thatis? It's like my life in you
know a room. You know,like when you think of all the accomplishments,
all the awards and appreciation, that'sthe flowers room. You know.
When I'm when I'm in there andI'm working, you know, I got
all the stuff in there over theyears that has made me m so it

(21:07):
feels it feels great. Man.Yeah, you're surrounded by you're blinded by
exactly. Man, look around andyeah, you can have a lot of
success and one day wake up andfeel like you haven't done anything. M
Yeah. Man, to have it, you know, in your face,
and it reminds me of who youreally are when you feel empty or like
like you remind yourself like, hey, it's a lonely journey that I've worked
through. And yeah, when youhear a song and you're like, funck,

(21:30):
I should have wrote that. Ohanother song a record? Oh yeah,
definitely. That happens all the time. Just loving music, you know,
it's like, wow, I studyit, you know, and my
favorite songs are like Temptations. SmokeyRobinson has written written songs that he write.
He wrote Rock and Robin is partof your family. Yeah, man,
that's my grandpa's song. Yeah,grandfather's and the Jackson five covered it,

(21:53):
but it was my grandpa's record aswell as yeah other songs yeah Bobby
Day, you know. So tohave that in my bloodline, it was
the confidence that I needed to letme know I could do it. Yeah,
man, that song was in AmericanMe. Man, that's right,
Na, Na, I'm joint man. That takes care of my mom.
My mom still get brad from fromthat song. A little bitty pretty one

(22:17):
over and over all the yeah thatwas about my mom. Wow. Yeah
yeah, and she's getting paid offof it. Yes, I love that.
But it's because you said that thatgave you the confidence to be like,
yeah, it's I meant for this, I guess. Yeah, that's
to your future generations, to yourcousins, to exactly all that. Like
Grandpa had a studio at the house. I had the studio at the house

(22:38):
like period, Like you know,I got to just spy on him as
a toddler, so there was ablueprint exactly yeah, man, and you
saw its. Proud. I believedin it. Yeah, Grandpa's proud.
I got a big, big,big big picture of him at the house.
I got him tattered on my chest. Man. Shout out to Bobby
Day for believing. Salute Man LoupEric Bellinger when hundred hit easy too,

(23:03):
it's out now, y'all. That'so. Ratulations man, Thank you.
You're welcome here anytime, oh Man. Always happy to be here. At
the time I drop, man,it's always like, oh yeah, I'm
able to go. You know.I feel I feel that energy, bro,
Like when I see you on theschedule, I'm like, yes,
someone we know and love, sowe're close to someone we can talk to
about anything and it's easy. Youknow too. Of course, we don't

(23:26):
pull up before twelve for anybody.Twelve yeah interview because we did the show
too. Okay, listen real love, let your cares, heays, check
you rich for the Cruise Show.Thanks for listening to the Cruise Show podcast.
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