August 23, 2024 • 20 mins
The Cruz Show had the pleasure of having FKA Twigs in studio to talk about her new movie The Crow which is in theaters now. She talked about getting into character, how she feels about tapping into sadness & why the movie was important to her. She also talked about English Movie Snacks, her music & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's the first thing you liked about me? I know
that you're quite brilliant.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And what's the worst thing you've ever done?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I saw things I should never seen. Any of that
jealousy on me anything. I want to get you out
of my tips bandis my head, my guys, my leg
not cry.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Just checking.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
How many people bel I never be alone?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yo? That was crazy?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That amazing for that intro, that was incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You went through a lot of emotions in that. There
was a lot going on in my life flash before
my eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Garcia as well for putting it together as it was crazy.
Right FK. Twigs is on the cruise show. Let's get it,
Let's go from the future. Is she from the future legend?
I like to think she is. You're the future. Let
the past? No, no, don't put me in the future.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The crow is out tomorrow. Congratulations. Let you and I
got to see the movie. Thank you for having us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
We were in your house. You weren't home at the time,
but it was like a little bro date too. It
was just still mandate, a little bro date, I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Sure, And what did you think?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I thought it was incredibly gory, and amazing. I'm just
gonna I'm I'm just gonna spit fire some words here. Amazing, gory,
very bloody. It's a love story, right. You meet this
character named Eric shout out to FKA Bill, and you
(02:07):
guys escape this rehab detention center together. You decide on
the spot, right, throw caution to the wind and just
you know, there's a there's a chemistry there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You guys leave, get murdered.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
He has to now become a crow or the crow,
and he has to kill to bring you back, but
he doesn't get to come back.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Must be nice to have somebody love you, somebody love
you that bring you back from the depth of.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Hell, and they don't get to comeback, but you do.
I do get to come Isn't that amazing? But that's
I mean, that's true love.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's what love is, right, regardless of who doesn't get
to come back, that's what love is.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well. I kind of think that the film is a
metaphor for you know, I think in a way in
our minds, everybody can be in their own personal hell.
You know, the mind in the brain is so that
you can enter into your own personal hell. And when
people love you they can pull you back from that.
So for me, the film is a metaphor for somebody
when they love you, they can bring you back to yourself,
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bring you back to the light and your most authentic self.
And that's what Eric does for Shelley.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, we're all living in our personal hell well exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And your loved ones bring you back. They say wait, no,
like come back and.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Loved ones ever bring me back? When? When is this
going to happen for me? Either? So here we are.
So did you watch the movie already in its entirety? Yes,
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Of course, right, what are you going to say? No?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, I would, I would say if it was all right, Yeah,
but it's not. I think it's really good.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It's really good, man, it's really good. And once it
kicks in as far as like the wild scenes with
the blood and the and and the killing and stuff
like that, like you know, let you describe it as
fun for the whole family.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I joke that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Even in the movie, I was like, dude, machine gun,
Kelly doesn't start.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, I mean, I think the film for me is
very much split into three genres. It's like a kind
of romantic of age movie in the beginning, and then
it's like a psychological thriller. Then it enters into pure
horror and gore, but done in the most artistic, amazing way.
The opera scene with the guns blazing and the two heads,
it's it's really like action at its finest, you know,
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so creative.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So created do you say creative? It's sick as fun.
That's why we're here. And that's a right.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's twisted and it's crazy, and it's like I've never
seen a movie where the next day I wake up thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
About it, okay, And that's what happened this time around
with the crow.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I woke up thinking I really saw that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Now, there's that one scene with the sword in the
mouth and it pushes down.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
The sword through the body and then into the eye.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yo or and he has to shoot himself to shoot
someone else.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, he shot himself to shoot someone else through his back,
and then with the knife that was through him, stabbed
somebody else in the eye.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Let's get into it like that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Who thought of that? That's what I want to know.
Who on the stunt team thought of that?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That person's that person needs to be evaluated somehow, right,
they need to be checked out because they're genius.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
They're a genius.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Genius, it's genius.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, are you into that kind of darkness? I mean,
I know we all hold a certain amount of darkness
within us, right, and your your character, Shelley, I think
there was a match there.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I mean Shelley's dark in her own way. I think
she's like a beautiful, slightly wilted rose. You know, she
just needs some water to bring her back to life.
And Eric offers that he did.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, but when it comes to your own darkness and
Shelley's darkness, right, it wasn't It wasn't hard, I think
for you to tap into.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think I needed it at that time. I think
I'd come off the back of really just wanting to
ignore my darkness and just only be in the light
and only try and be happy. And I thought that
healing was this space of having to be perfect all
the time. And you know, the way we see online,
the way we see on Instagram, the way we see
on TikTok if everyone's just okay, you know, but the
truth is well not and that's okay. And I kind
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of learned to embrace my dark side and see it
as an asset, you know, see it as a tool
that I can use for my artistry.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Happiness is overrated.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We all want to be happy, which is great, but
everyone becomes very unhappy chasing it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I think, yeah, I think I don't really focus on
being happy anymore. I just focus on being present.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's it. And that's tough, that's hardcore. What's up, Jackie?
Have you met Jackie yourmiors? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
What is the pressure that comes with reimagining the Crow
from the actual comic book? Are you worried about criticism
from fans?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think that ultimately it's about loss and gains. You know,
tragically we lost Brandon nee on the Phone film, and
I also think tragically we lost the culture from which
that film was born from. You know, it's a different time,
and it's a time where you had to go to
see your favorite bands. It's a time where you had
to go out into the world to really discover culture
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and discover a sense of being and discover your tribe.
And that's something that doesn't really exist now. And that's
why the soundtrack of the original Crow in the world
that was built was so important to so many people,
but we don't really have that anymore. So for sure, yeah,
that is a loss, But at the same time, in
the New Crow, there's the gain of the love story.
There's a gain of Shelley. I think she brings a
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really beautiful, dark, feminine, divine energy into the film. You
get to really learn about Eric's vulnerabilities and who he
was before he met Shelley. He was kind of insecure
and awkward and his posture and he just wasn't the
man that he was when he became to be the Crow,
and that's a huge gain. You get to see what
it's like to see two young people that were outsiders
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find each other and and want to make a better
life for themselves and then get torn away. You didn't
get to see that in the original film. So yeah, sure,
you know, there are some losses, some really tragic ones,
but the gains are so beautiful and meaningful. I'd like
to think that the original Crow fans can really appreciate
that and lean into it, and that also we can
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inspire a whole new generation of people that feel like
they don't belong and that they want to belong kind
of be invigorated by the story.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
There's a I called it a scarface scene where he's
just getting shot up, consistently, just getting shot at, and
he's still walking towards the people that he wants to kill.
It's that kind of movie where it just doesn't quit.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It doesn't relentless, it's relentless.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's relentless. I love that. My favorite bit in the film,
or one of them, is when Eric he doubts Shelley
and he goes back into like the middle world and
you think he's dead. He's in a bath and he
comes back and his posture completely changes. It's like in
that moment, he goes from thinking, Okay, I think I
want to try and save Shelley, but I'm a boy.
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And then he goes into the underworld and he decides
to know, I'm going to lean into the laugh And
when he comes back, do you know the I mean
out of the bath with the eye and the posture,
it's like his body completely changes all of a sudden.
He's just in beast mode.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's a transformation and we see it right there.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And it becomes a man he does.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He becomes a man on a mission.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
A man on a mission for the woman that he loves.
Isn't that sweet? What are men doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Everything? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm in a very happy relationship now, so I don't
have to think about it anymore. Thank God.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
To teach me some things. I gotta talk to this guy.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I really did enjoy it when he came back and
dropped out of flowers. He didn't forget about the flowers.
That that was very sweet.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Sea of white lilies.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was like, man, that's it? You like that? Huh?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You always got to pay attention romantic. He doesn't want
us to believe that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
The right person I'm a romance' I just this love
is too powerful.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I don't just give it away. You know what was
wrong with that? He's rising you up? But I thought
that was very beat.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Before because it's like, yo, you pay attention to the details,
and through all the manners, he didn't forget that little
thing that was going.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
To make the difference to That's what I think more
men need to pay attention to us.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think the little things, Jackie, Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think so? I think so for sure.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
When when it comes to being on set with like
Bill and having that connection with with him, as just
you know, a coworker and friend. How does that mesh
like so effortlessly or was it just kind of like
a was.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
There prep for that kind of chemistry?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, that wasn't. We were both cast without knowing each other.
And sometimes I wonder whether Reputs just a genius and
knew that we were going to get on, or whether
it was an accident. You know, but we really got
along so well straight away, and we built a really
beautiful friendship. It felt easy to get to know him
and to to you know, fall in love platonically with
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who Bill is as a person. And it's not difficult.
You know, he's so sweet, so generous, so kind.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah he's a nice guy. Isn't he very nice? Wants
to believe that, but I'm sure he's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He is.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So I think that that just resonated on camera.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, No, I really did.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm like, I'm thinking, like, yo, they had to have
gone out to dinner or at least get some ice
cream at Basket Robins to kind of feel that chemistry
because it was that natural.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Was that real?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah? We did. And we would always talk so much
in between scenes, you know, we'd always be talking. We'd
always be laughing and sharing stories and talking about life.
And you know, I felt like on the film we
developed a very deep and tender relationship.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
No, it shows, it shows because it just comes comes through,
It seeps through as you're watching it.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, well like, okay, they're in love dog.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
No, But like I think that that's really important. You know,
it is really important. But strangely, I actually because Bill's
Swedish and my sort of second family that helped raise
me was Swedish, so all my Christmases were all spent
like with Swedes, so my auntie and my grandma and
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my granddad when I was young. So I think even
culturally there was something.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That I kind of sound like you were working with
family in a way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I mean, obviously, like all parts of the world, they
have their isms, and I think I just got Bill's
isms because I've spent so much time amongst Swedish people
in my childhood.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Sure. Now, you guys did an amazing job. The pro
is in theaters.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's out tomorrow. What a great movie, great chemistry, great
story as well. I think people are going to be
very pleased with this work that you guys have done.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And we had a lot of support at the premiere
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, Michael made it came down a scept third came down.
I felt so honored, you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Know, Yeah, that's right. Is there going to be a
Shelley popcorn bucket?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I don't know. I have to speak to Lion Skate.
I need little figures.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, the popcorn bucket game is crazy that that has
completely elevated.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, I have to check that out.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, and after watching The Crow, it almost felt like,
you know, it's like this show. It's it's like almost
like a festival, like you come out. I'm looking for
the merch line, like it's.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Got that vibe.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, Well, it's a cult movie. It's a cult movie
classic and it was that for the younger generation in
the nineties, and I have a good feeling that it
can be for kids today as well.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Now for sure, did you learn anything about yourself while
making this movie?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's funny we were talking about it today while I
was getting ready, about being an asset to the collective.
You know, when you're kind of working in a group
of people, just about keeping your vibe up and making
sure that whatever you do every single day while you're
in that working environment to make sure you're an asset
to everything bigger that's going on. Being a music artist,
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I'm always at the center of everything, so I personally
don't always need to worry about that so much. But
on a film, you're a small part of like a
big clock. Everyone's like their clog and so it was
really nice kind of just going into something where I
could give my tools to the director and say, like,
you know, play me like an instrument, like what do
you need today? So that was really nice.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Are you Are you method in that way? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
No, I'm not method, but I definitely because I'm shooting
another film now with Nicholas Cage called The cap and
to Son, I definitely use my own experiences to like
link it with the character.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Very cool. Oh you're an artist, You're a true artist. Yeah.
I don't know what you're doing here with us, but
that's all that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I like it. That mix, I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Was crazy. You're not going to get that anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Crucial I want to come back.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
How's Spanish?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's really bad?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
How bad do you know any other languages? No?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean I'm actually part of Spanish.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Really yeah, no way.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I'm just like a child of the world.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I that's that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm like a child of the world. I've got
such mixed heritage from Jamaican, English, Spanish, Egyptian, like it's
all like mixed up in there. But I'm just kind
of like a child of the world. And I don't
but I would love to speak another language, but we
kind of I feel like there's kind of a I'm
gonna get in trouble for saying this, but it's kind
of like an arrogance in the country that I'm from,
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where we don't really need to learn another language too
deep because everyone just speaks English sure, whereas like when
you're from other countries, you're really encouraged to kind of
like learn other language. We just don't get that. It's
like you learn it in school, but it's not like
you have to learn this else You're not going to
be able to make function here.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
No matter who you are, you have to know Spanish.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I think I think there's a little Mexico in
this city in La you know.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I think to your point, though, it's like we grew
up kind of conditioned to thinking like the world needs
to learn English, or the world knows English, or the
one English.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, we're good wherever we go.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's a shame though. I don't like that. It's a
shame I wish I did.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, you know, when it comes to music, I'm sorry, music, festivals, concerts, movies,
is what I was trying to say.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
The Black and Brown we're very We're very involved. You know.
I'd like to say, we like to spend money before
we get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
We spend money we don't have, but we we We're
a big consumer when it comes to movies and music
and festivals and concerts and all of that. So I
think we'll see a lot of that as well this
weekend when it comes.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
To the movie.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I feel that too. I think it's just culture,
isn't it. We love culture. We love offering to culture,
we love participating. It's just in our blood.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh and we love blood.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Speaking of culture, like British movie culture, Like when you
go to the movies, what are you like the top
five British snacks people eat at the movie theater?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's a good question.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Popcorn okay, and.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
There's like there's little like bananas. Do you have those
weird like kind of the shrimps and the bananas.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And then we have like Cadbury's chocolates cabris, but it
tastes different in England to it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Does it tastes better? It's fine, it's better.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know, what do you think? Guys? We do
have nachos.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It ain't the same though they're not hitting right, there's
no way, there's no way that's ours.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Then we have like baked beans on toes, not in
the theater, not.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Our old family. We were just in London not too
long ago, and the kids all had the big traditional breakfast,
traditional lunchsal dinner. We want to experience it, you know, have.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You I haven't.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Super traditional Mexican breakfast one days.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Just think of it as like breakfast nachos.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Breakfast nachos, strotein, cheese and beans. What do you thin
about English people and Domino's Pizza.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Pizza? Everyone who we've interviewed from out that way. Domino's
Pizza is the play is the way the first to.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Say no, I don't know, isn' like Nando's the place chicken. Yeah,
I think like Nando's is. I mean, at least in
my experience, I feel like Nando's is bigger than Domino.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Nando's is fire. I had it in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Right, sounds Mexican, by the way, No, it's it's fire chicken.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But I recommend it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yes, it's Portuguese. I think like Perry Perry chicken.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Spices. That's right. He's also a man, a father, producers.
Great up? Yeah right? What's most important a Grammy or
an Oscar? Good question?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Do you know what the truth?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Please?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That's the answer, Just the truth, as long as I'm
making and it's true, Like, I don't care. I'd rather like,
I just want to make work, that's true. I don't
need awards. I just need it to be true.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
But it'd be nice to get one. Sure.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
The thing is, those things I don't know how real
they are.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Ah, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't. I don't know. I'm not sure how real
they are. So for me, I just want to make work.
That's true. Like, what's more important than a Grammy or
an Oscar is changing the cultural DNA, offering people something
different standing for what I believe in artistically, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Amazing, well done.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Is there anything that happened to you that maybe made
you become a truth seecret?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's a good question. I think probably like being born
mixed race in a white area. For me, it was
like it's been such a defining part of who I
am because you just have no option other than to
be yourself at a certain point, and so that really
shaped me. It was kind of difficult to begin with,
but now I feel like it's like such a such
a strength, you know, yeah, there is. I have such
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a strategy, like I just can't unwave her from who
I am.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
For sure. We had money long in here.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
She's an artist, and we told her that you were
going to be here today, and she's like, I wish
I had her confidence.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I wish I was her really Yeah, oh wow, isn't
that crazy? Why she just dug your confidence? She really
understood or understands who you are.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I think, Oh that's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Hey, we appreciate the time, Man the Crow Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Congratulations well for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Go see it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, go see the movie. See the film, Come see
us any time.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, I will do where my next records are, will.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Come man, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
The truth, is the truth. I would love to come.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Eight people heard it, f K. I appreciate you all day,
Cruse Show, real nightety to take. Thank you
What's the first thing you liked about me? I know
that you're quite brilliant.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And what's the worst thing you've ever done?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I saw things I should never seen. Any of that
jealousy on me anything. I want to get you out
of my tips bandis my head, my guys, my leg
not cry.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Just checking.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
How many people bel I never be alone?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yo? That was crazy?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That amazing for that intro, that was incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You went through a lot of emotions in that. There
was a lot going on in my life flash before
my eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Garcia as well for putting it together as it was crazy.
Right FK. Twigs is on the cruise show. Let's get it,
Let's go from the future. Is she from the future legend?
I like to think she is. You're the future. Let
the past? No, no, don't put me in the future.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The crow is out tomorrow. Congratulations. Let you and I
got to see the movie. Thank you for having us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
We were in your house. You weren't home at the time,
but it was like a little bro date too. It
was just still mandate, a little bro date, I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Sure, And what did you think?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I thought it was incredibly gory, and amazing. I'm just
gonna I'm I'm just gonna spit fire some words here. Amazing, gory,
very bloody. It's a love story, right. You meet this
character named Eric shout out to FKA Bill, and you
(02:07):
guys escape this rehab detention center together. You decide on
the spot, right, throw caution to the wind and just
you know, there's a there's a chemistry there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You guys leave, get murdered.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
He has to now become a crow or the crow,
and he has to kill to bring you back, but
he doesn't get to come back.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Must be nice to have somebody love you, somebody love
you that bring you back from the depth of.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Hell, and they don't get to comeback, but you do.
I do get to come Isn't that amazing? But that's
I mean, that's true love.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's what love is, right, regardless of who doesn't get
to come back, that's what love is.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well. I kind of think that the film is a
metaphor for you know, I think in a way in
our minds, everybody can be in their own personal hell.
You know, the mind in the brain is so that
you can enter into your own personal hell. And when
people love you they can pull you back from that.
So for me, the film is a metaphor for somebody
when they love you, they can bring you back to yourself,
(03:10):
bring you back to the light and your most authentic self.
And that's what Eric does for Shelley.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, we're all living in our personal hell well exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And your loved ones bring you back. They say wait, no,
like come back and.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Loved ones ever bring me back? When? When is this
going to happen for me? Either? So here we are.
So did you watch the movie already in its entirety? Yes,
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Of course, right, what are you going to say? No?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, I would, I would say if it was all right, Yeah,
but it's not. I think it's really good.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It's really good, man, it's really good. And once it
kicks in as far as like the wild scenes with
the blood and the and and the killing and stuff
like that, like you know, let you describe it as
fun for the whole family.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I joke that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Even in the movie, I was like, dude, machine gun,
Kelly doesn't start.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, I mean, I think the film for me is
very much split into three genres. It's like a kind
of romantic of age movie in the beginning, and then
it's like a psychological thriller. Then it enters into pure
horror and gore, but done in the most artistic, amazing way.
The opera scene with the guns blazing and the two heads,
it's it's really like action at its finest, you know,
(04:32):
so creative.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So created do you say creative? It's sick as fun.
That's why we're here. And that's a right.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's twisted and it's crazy, and it's like I've never
seen a movie where the next day I wake up thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
About it, okay, And that's what happened this time around
with the crow.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I woke up thinking I really saw that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Now, there's that one scene with the sword in the
mouth and it pushes down.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
The sword through the body and then into the eye.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yo or and he has to shoot himself to shoot
someone else.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, he shot himself to shoot someone else through his back,
and then with the knife that was through him, stabbed
somebody else in the eye.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Let's get into it like that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Who thought of that? That's what I want to know.
Who on the stunt team thought of that?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
That person's that person needs to be evaluated somehow, right,
they need to be checked out because they're genius.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
They're a genius.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Genius, it's genius.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, are you into that kind of darkness? I mean,
I know we all hold a certain amount of darkness
within us, right, and your your character, Shelley, I think
there was a match there.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I mean Shelley's dark in her own way. I think
she's like a beautiful, slightly wilted rose. You know, she
just needs some water to bring her back to life.
And Eric offers that he did.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, but when it comes to your own darkness and
Shelley's darkness, right, it wasn't It wasn't hard, I think
for you to tap into.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think I needed it at that time. I think
I'd come off the back of really just wanting to
ignore my darkness and just only be in the light
and only try and be happy. And I thought that
healing was this space of having to be perfect all
the time. And you know, the way we see online,
the way we see on Instagram, the way we see
on TikTok if everyone's just okay, you know, but the
truth is well not and that's okay. And I kind
(06:18):
of learned to embrace my dark side and see it
as an asset, you know, see it as a tool
that I can use for my artistry.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Happiness is overrated.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We all want to be happy, which is great, but
everyone becomes very unhappy chasing it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I think, yeah, I think I don't really focus on
being happy anymore. I just focus on being present.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's it. And that's tough, that's hardcore. What's up, Jackie?
Have you met Jackie yourmiors? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
What is the pressure that comes with reimagining the Crow
from the actual comic book? Are you worried about criticism
from fans?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think that ultimately it's about loss and gains. You know,
tragically we lost Brandon nee on the Phone film, and
I also think tragically we lost the culture from which
that film was born from. You know, it's a different time,
and it's a time where you had to go to
see your favorite bands. It's a time where you had
to go out into the world to really discover culture
(07:15):
and discover a sense of being and discover your tribe.
And that's something that doesn't really exist now. And that's
why the soundtrack of the original Crow in the world
that was built was so important to so many people,
but we don't really have that anymore. So for sure, yeah,
that is a loss, But at the same time, in
the New Crow, there's the gain of the love story.
There's a gain of Shelley. I think she brings a
(07:36):
really beautiful, dark, feminine, divine energy into the film. You
get to really learn about Eric's vulnerabilities and who he
was before he met Shelley. He was kind of insecure
and awkward and his posture and he just wasn't the
man that he was when he became to be the Crow,
and that's a huge gain. You get to see what
it's like to see two young people that were outsiders
(07:58):
find each other and and want to make a better
life for themselves and then get torn away. You didn't
get to see that in the original film. So yeah, sure,
you know, there are some losses, some really tragic ones,
but the gains are so beautiful and meaningful. I'd like
to think that the original Crow fans can really appreciate
that and lean into it, and that also we can
(08:20):
inspire a whole new generation of people that feel like
they don't belong and that they want to belong kind
of be invigorated by the story.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
There's a I called it a scarface scene where he's
just getting shot up, consistently, just getting shot at, and
he's still walking towards the people that he wants to kill.
It's that kind of movie where it just doesn't quit.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It doesn't relentless, it's relentless.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's relentless. I love that. My favorite bit in the film,
or one of them, is when Eric he doubts Shelley
and he goes back into like the middle world and
you think he's dead. He's in a bath and he
comes back and his posture completely changes. It's like in
that moment, he goes from thinking, Okay, I think I
want to try and save Shelley, but I'm a boy.
(09:08):
And then he goes into the underworld and he decides
to know, I'm going to lean into the laugh And
when he comes back, do you know the I mean
out of the bath with the eye and the posture,
it's like his body completely changes all of a sudden.
He's just in beast mode.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's a transformation and we see it right there.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And it becomes a man he does.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He becomes a man on a mission.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
A man on a mission for the woman that he loves.
Isn't that sweet? What are men doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Everything? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm in a very happy relationship now, so I don't
have to think about it anymore. Thank God.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
To teach me some things. I gotta talk to this guy.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I really did enjoy it when he came back and
dropped out of flowers. He didn't forget about the flowers.
That that was very sweet.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Sea of white lilies.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, I was like, man, that's it? You like that? Huh?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You always got to pay attention romantic. He doesn't want
us to believe that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
The right person I'm a romance' I just this love
is too powerful.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I don't just give it away. You know what was
wrong with that? He's rising you up? But I thought
that was very beat.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Before because it's like, yo, you pay attention to the details,
and through all the manners, he didn't forget that little
thing that was going.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
To make the difference to That's what I think more
men need to pay attention to us.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I think the little things, Jackie, Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think so? I think so for sure.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
When when it comes to being on set with like
Bill and having that connection with with him, as just
you know, a coworker and friend. How does that mesh
like so effortlessly or was it just kind of like
a was.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
There prep for that kind of chemistry?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, that wasn't. We were both cast without knowing each other.
And sometimes I wonder whether Reputs just a genius and
knew that we were going to get on, or whether
it was an accident. You know, but we really got
along so well straight away, and we built a really
beautiful friendship. It felt easy to get to know him
and to to you know, fall in love platonically with
(11:07):
who Bill is as a person. And it's not difficult.
You know, he's so sweet, so generous, so kind.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah he's a nice guy. Isn't he very nice? Wants
to believe that, but I'm sure he's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He is.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So I think that that just resonated on camera.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, No, I really did.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm like, I'm thinking, like, yo, they had to have
gone out to dinner or at least get some ice
cream at Basket Robins to kind of feel that chemistry
because it was that natural.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Was that real?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah? We did. And we would always talk so much
in between scenes, you know, we'd always be talking. We'd
always be laughing and sharing stories and talking about life.
And you know, I felt like on the film we
developed a very deep and tender relationship.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
No, it shows, it shows because it just comes comes through,
It seeps through as you're watching it.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, well like, okay, they're in love dog.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
No, But like I think that that's really important. You know,
it is really important. But strangely, I actually because Bill's
Swedish and my sort of second family that helped raise
me was Swedish, so all my Christmases were all spent
like with Swedes, so my auntie and my grandma and
(12:18):
my granddad when I was young. So I think even
culturally there was something.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That I kind of sound like you were working with
family in a way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I mean, obviously, like all parts of the world, they
have their isms, and I think I just got Bill's
isms because I've spent so much time amongst Swedish people
in my childhood.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Sure. Now, you guys did an amazing job. The pro
is in theaters.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's out tomorrow. What a great movie, great chemistry, great
story as well. I think people are going to be
very pleased with this work that you guys have done.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And we had a lot of support at the premiere
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, Michael made it came down a scept third came down.
I felt so honored, you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Know, Yeah, that's right. Is there going to be a
Shelley popcorn bucket?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I don't know. I have to speak to Lion Skate.
I need little figures.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, the popcorn bucket game is crazy that that has
completely elevated.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, I have to check that out.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, and after watching The Crow, it almost felt like,
you know, it's like this show. It's it's like almost
like a festival, like you come out. I'm looking for
the merch line, like it's.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Got that vibe.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, Well, it's a cult movie. It's a cult movie
classic and it was that for the younger generation in
the nineties, and I have a good feeling that it
can be for kids today as well.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Now for sure, did you learn anything about yourself while
making this movie?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's funny we were talking about it today while I
was getting ready, about being an asset to the collective.
You know, when you're kind of working in a group
of people, just about keeping your vibe up and making
sure that whatever you do every single day while you're
in that working environment to make sure you're an asset
to everything bigger that's going on. Being a music artist,
(14:02):
I'm always at the center of everything, so I personally
don't always need to worry about that so much. But
on a film, you're a small part of like a
big clock. Everyone's like their clog and so it was
really nice kind of just going into something where I
could give my tools to the director and say, like,
you know, play me like an instrument, like what do
you need today? So that was really nice.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Are you Are you method in that way? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
No, I'm not method, but I definitely because I'm shooting
another film now with Nicholas Cage called The cap and
to Son, I definitely use my own experiences to like
link it with the character.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Very cool. Oh you're an artist, You're a true artist. Yeah.
I don't know what you're doing here with us, but
that's all that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I like it. That mix, I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Was crazy. You're not going to get that anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Crucial I want to come back.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
How's Spanish?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's really bad?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
How bad do you know any other languages? No?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean I'm actually part of Spanish.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Really yeah, no way.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I'm just like a child of the world.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I that's that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm like a child of the world. I've got
such mixed heritage from Jamaican, English, Spanish, Egyptian, like it's
all like mixed up in there. But I'm just kind
of like a child of the world. And I don't
but I would love to speak another language, but we
kind of I feel like there's kind of a I'm
gonna get in trouble for saying this, but it's kind
of like an arrogance in the country that I'm from,
(15:34):
where we don't really need to learn another language too
deep because everyone just speaks English sure, whereas like when
you're from other countries, you're really encouraged to kind of
like learn other language. We just don't get that. It's
like you learn it in school, but it's not like
you have to learn this else You're not going to
be able to make function here.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
No matter who you are, you have to know Spanish.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I think I think there's a little Mexico in
this city in La you know.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I think to your point, though, it's like we grew
up kind of conditioned to thinking like the world needs
to learn English, or the world knows English, or the
one English.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, we're good wherever we go.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's a shame though. I don't like that. It's a
shame I wish I did.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, you know, when it comes to music, I'm sorry, music, festivals, concerts, movies,
is what I was trying to say.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
The Black and Brown we're very We're very involved. You know.
I'd like to say, we like to spend money before
we get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
We spend money we don't have, but we we We're
a big consumer when it comes to movies and music
and festivals and concerts and all of that. So I
think we'll see a lot of that as well this
weekend when it comes.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
To the movie.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I feel that too. I think it's just culture,
isn't it. We love culture. We love offering to culture,
we love participating. It's just in our blood.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Oh and we love blood.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Speaking of culture, like British movie culture, Like when you
go to the movies, what are you like the top
five British snacks people eat at the movie theater?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's a good question.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Popcorn okay, and.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
There's like there's little like bananas. Do you have those
weird like kind of the shrimps and the bananas.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And then we have like Cadbury's chocolates cabris, but it
tastes different in England to it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Does it tastes better? It's fine, it's better.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know, what do you think? Guys? We do
have nachos.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It ain't the same though they're not hitting right, there's
no way, there's no way that's ours.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Then we have like baked beans on toes, not in
the theater, not.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Our old family. We were just in London not too
long ago, and the kids all had the big traditional breakfast,
traditional lunchsal dinner. We want to experience it, you know, have.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You I haven't.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Super traditional Mexican breakfast one days.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Just think of it as like breakfast nachos.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Breakfast nachos, strotein, cheese and beans. What do you thin
about English people and Domino's Pizza.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Pizza? Everyone who we've interviewed from out that way. Domino's
Pizza is the play is the way the first to.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Say no, I don't know, isn' like Nando's the place chicken. Yeah,
I think like Nando's is. I mean, at least in
my experience, I feel like Nando's is bigger than Domino.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Nando's is fire. I had it in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Right, sounds Mexican, by the way, No, it's it's fire chicken.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But I recommend it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yes, it's Portuguese. I think like Perry Perry chicken.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Spices. That's right. He's also a man, a father, producers.
Great up? Yeah right? What's most important a Grammy or
an Oscar? Good question?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Do you know what the truth?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Please?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That's the answer, Just the truth, as long as I'm
making and it's true, Like, I don't care. I'd rather like,
I just want to make work, that's true. I don't
need awards. I just need it to be true.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
But it'd be nice to get one. Sure.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
The thing is, those things I don't know how real
they are.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Ah, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't. I don't know. I'm not sure how real
they are. So for me, I just want to make work.
That's true. Like, what's more important than a Grammy or
an Oscar is changing the cultural DNA, offering people something
different standing for what I believe in artistically, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Amazing, well done.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Is there anything that happened to you that maybe made
you become a truth seecret?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's a good question. I think probably like being born
mixed race in a white area. For me, it was
like it's been such a defining part of who I
am because you just have no option other than to
be yourself at a certain point, and so that really
shaped me. It was kind of difficult to begin with,
but now I feel like it's like such a such
a strength, you know, yeah, there is. I have such
(20:00):
a strategy, like I just can't unwave her from who
I am.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
For sure. We had money long in here.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
She's an artist, and we told her that you were
going to be here today, and she's like, I wish
I had her confidence.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I wish I was her really Yeah, oh wow, isn't
that crazy? Why she just dug your confidence? She really
understood or understands who you are.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I think, Oh that's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Hey, we appreciate the time, Man the Crow Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Congratulations well for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Go see it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, go see the movie. See the film, Come see
us any time.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, I will do where my next records are, will.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Come man, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
The truth, is the truth. I would love to come.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Eight people heard it, f K. I appreciate you all day,
Cruse Show, real nightety to take. Thank you
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