September 30, 2024 • 20 mins
G Herbo came by the Cruz Show Studios to talk about his new project "Big Swerve". He talked a lot about his growth as a human, his features, the advice he gets from Future & he comments on Lil Wayne not playing the Super Bowl halftime show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all shout the DJ fuse for that intro, show Man, Man, definitely, Man,
appreciate it now when you walk into a radio station
and you get that kind of attention.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, yeah, I feel right.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
It just made me feel better about my album, like
it flowed good together.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Come on, big swork, Let's go, big swork.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yes, sir, congratulations on everything.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Thank you, Bro, on freedom, on music, you know, nonprofit everything.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Man, thank you of course, show Bro. I'm happy to
be here, yes, sir, Man.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You know when you're making this project, right, it took
a lot. I'm from what I understand, it took a
lot to make this project happen. Uh, you know, life
is life, and while you're working as well? What else
was happening while this project was being Man, in the
midst of it, how much of it is it?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Is it in the music?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
In the midst of it?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Man?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You know, I was, as everybody know, I was fighting
a federal case.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I was facing like some time and stuff like that.
But I wound up beating it.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Of course, man coming out because you know I was
innocent of course. Yeah yeah, yeah for sure, But man,
big swear Bro, I was just saying like this project
is probably took me the longest to actually like record
and put out, Like I was working on this album
for like four years for real, for real, and probably
a little longer than that, to be honest, close to
(01:15):
five years. And I've been so many different people in
those five years.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know what I'm saying. Like I had to overcome
my legal troubles.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I lost my little brother in twenty twenty one, fatherhood,
I had two more kids, and really just going through
a lot personal on my personal life and getting my business. Well,
did you have to buy your way out of a dealer?
I actually I did a settlement so pretty much. It
was kind of you could say that I bought myself
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out because it had a lot to do with like
money and numbers, you know, and we agreed on one thing,
and I was just about to, like you know what
I'm saying, get to that too, like get my business
in order and really getting the confidence and reinvent myself
as an artist, you know, Like I really I went
own kind of sort of a hiatus, not putting out
music for like a year, like over a year, and
always been independent. I always had like the freedom or
(02:08):
quote unquote somewhat the freedom to put out music like
at my own exposure, you know what I'm saying, at
my own time and my own scheduling. But that wasn't
really the case in my situation. So I had to
gain full control of my situation right now, you know,
and really in the midst of doing that and still
trying to stay productive and put out good music. You know,
(02:29):
I record good music and really like, I feel like
it was a reintroduction to the music industry of who
I am, who g Herbo is today. You know what
I'm saying, Who Swerve O Big Swerve is today? And
I feel like my music does capture that, you know
what I'm saying, because I'm not trying to talk about negativity,
you know, I'm trying to talk about positive energy and
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the stuff that I'm focused on right now, and that's
being a star, you know, and that's what Big.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Sword is man for you.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
What's the big difference between Survivor's Remorse and Big Sward.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The difference is Survivors of Morse is.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, I was in a mental state while I
really was feeling Survivors of Morse, I was feeling like
grieve and I was feeling like, yeah, guilt and responsibility
for a lot of things that took place in my life,
you know what I'm saying, And guilt for losing my
little brother. And you know what I'm saying, me being
more so in the streets than he was, you know
(03:23):
what I'm saying, Like, and I'm like, I'm no stranger
to like more than people and more than people's death,
you know, But that woln't hit a little close to
home because I felt like, you know, he was one
of those people that you would never expect to die.
You know what I'm saying, That I would expect to
be here. So I was definitely having survivors of morse,
you know, because I ain't really want to like live
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my life without my little brother, you know what I'm saying,
Like I didn't want to like reach certain levels of
success and stuff like that and him not be here
and me not being able to share it with him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And when I put that music out, I was in
that space.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And you know a lot of people haven't really like
live life and experienced life on the level that I have,
you know, and on a level of really like experiencing
trauma and experiencing violence on.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
The level that I have, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And it sounds good to people who in Utah and
stuff like that, who never heard the experiences. It's entertaining
to them, but it's real life to me, you know.
And I don't want to have to feel like that,
because my music is always a product of who I
am and what I'm going through, you know what I'm saying.
So the difference between that and Big Swerve is Big
Swerve is I'm actually in a good mental space. I'm
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in a space where I'm confident about myself. I'm confident
about my music. I'm trying to have fun with it,
you know, and I'm actually enjoying the fruits of my label.
I did a lot, I overcame a lot, and I've
been through a lot to get where I am today.
So I should be able to enjoy talking about, you know,
making money and spending money and going out and looking
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and feeling like a star and not feeling depressed and
feeling like I got to look over my shoulder all
day and feeling like I want to hurt somebody or
somebody want to hurt me, you know what I'm saying.
Because that is entertaining, and I want to speak to
my fans when they try to put me in a
box and feel like I have to. I'm an artist, bro,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like I know how
to rap, and I could rap about so many different things,
and I rap about my life. I'm not in the
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streets no more. I don't want to be in the streets.
I don't want nothing to do with the streets, you
know what I'm saying. But I am a product of
the streets, you know I am. I have people who
are close to me and people who I love who
are still in the streets, but I'm trying to get
them out of the streets, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like I don't want to talk about this
type of stuff no more. You know what I'm saying,
Like if it was up to me, I would want
to exactly If it was up to me, I would
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want to only rap about this, you know what I'm saying,
Being in La being in Miami, being in these other places,
going to travel and see the world, and going to
rap about stuff that I didn't even imagine myself experiencing
at all, you know what I'm saying. Like I come
from say knife and essence.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I never hear aspirations to be in another country on
the eye telling somewhere. You know what I'm saying that
growing up, you don't it's non existent around us, exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Right, and what's on TV.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And once we start to see the world, you start
realizing how different, how more there is out there for
us to have. And that's why we got to show
our kids the world and more than just our surrounding. Yeah,
and they're they're they're receptive and they're open to so many.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Exactly exactly, and like I feel like being a father
and experiencing fatherhood and make me want more for myself
because I don't want to have that energy, you know
what I'm saying, Like the mouth like manifestation and the
power of the tongue is it's real, Like the stuff
that you speak about and the stuff that you manifest
and foresee it come back to you, you know what
(06:42):
I'm saying. So it's like the energy that I want
around me is good positive energy. I want to rap
about having a lot of money. I want to rap
about traveling. I want to rap about being there with
my kids. I want to rap about that kind of
stuff you feel I'm saying, Like, don't get me wrong,
I am a product of my environment.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I am when I am.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I cut been through what I've been through and where
I came from. I'll never forget, you know what I'm saying.
But I feel like I don't want to still have
touch with that. I want to lose touch of the streets.
I don't want to care about what's going on in
the streets anymore, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And that's where I am fully always out? Yes, can
you fully be out?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I feel like because you gotta take that step too,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like it's okay to
always have that age and still be you know who
I am. I'm always gonna be able to protect myself
and protect my family at all costs. But that don't
mean that I have to be in the streets. The
streets ain't for me, you know what I'm saying. The
streets is.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
For who is for?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Like I'm not that guy anymore, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't want to be that guy. Like I want
to be a billionaire. You can't be a billionaire be
in the streets. It's impossible, no way. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's impossible, and that's what I want to do. I
got aspirations of being a billionaire, Like I don't want
to be a street dude.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We're gonna get it. Can I join you?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, I got you, I got you, I got you
this man, what I'm always share a wealth man, I'm
always share knowledge and share everything to you know what
I'm saying, Like everything that I know, I'm not gonna
keep it in my brain. I'm always gonna share it
so the world could always no never gain, never that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, we gotta grow for shure, Bro got to help
grow for shore show up now. Congrat sate your growth.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Man. It's remarketble to here man. And I think as
you know, people that grew.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Up with you, you know, so to speak through your music,
like as you elevate, they're gonna elevate with you, especially
if they consume me music that much.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, your message as it changes, could also change the
way people view things respect Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
For sure, Thank you Bro. Good. I could listen to
I listened to my old music.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And I could really still like hear where I was
as a person, like the environment that I was in,
the things that I was doing, Like it all go
right back to it, you know what I'm saying. So
I want somebody to be able to listen to my
music when I was sixteen, listen to my music when
I was twenty eight, and I feel like that's not
the same person because it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
People to growth, you know what I'm saying. And I'll
be seeing my fans.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I see people in the comments like, oh yeah, man,
he need to get back to this, Like I could
never get back to that unless I'm standing on same
nfe in essex dodging bullets, which I would never.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Be, you know what I'm saying, Like it's impossible.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
You know what's crazy is to like hear stories about
Chicago where you're from. These kids are eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen shooting people absolutely and it's a video game to them,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But it's real life.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It's real life, which it's very sad, and I feel
like they look at it like it's a video game, man,
except for you don't have.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No respond on in real life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Once you did, you did when you got a honey
of years life, You in jail for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I always hear aspirations to do something else. Even
when I was in the streets, I knew that that
was not my destiny. I knew that I wouldn't be
in the streets for the rest of my life because
I was moving towards something better, something.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Greater, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And I knew that God hit a different purpose for me,
you know. And if you don't have that, I feel
like it gotta be in you. Like if you don't
have it, you never will, you know what I'm saying,
Like you gotta have something in you, some kind of
drive to know that you better than that. Like I'm
not saying that I'm better than anybody, but I'm better
than that, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm better
at being in the streets.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
In your DNA or it's got something has to be
constantly in your ear telling you, yeah, but there's more, and.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That you're more, that you're more than this.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
On your path to billionaireship, have you reached out to
any of your peers for like mentorships and stuff like that,
like being able to figure out how they did it
to get to their success as like a whole or
like someone in that that stratosphere that can point you
in that duration.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I always say, like I get a lot of like
insight from future, Like he talked to me a lot
like just about like from the outside looking in where
he feels like I'm at mentally, what do you feel
like I'm doing right? What do you feel like I'm
doing wrong? And you know, like the things that he do,
like with his money and how you take care of
his business, like we had those conversations, And always keep
it in the back of my head because I know
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it's possible, you know what I'm saying. I know it's
possible for me to do this and take the right steps.
And it's always strategic steps. You know, nothing is incidental.
You always got to make those strategic steps to make
sure that you're securing your livelihood, your children's and you're
putting yourself in the right positions to make your business
catapult and always elevate and get to the next level,
(11:13):
you know what I'm saying. So it's like I don't
want to just focus on music. I want to be
focused on a lot of other things while I'm doing music,
you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I definitely like
if I had to say, like who I probably get
the most insight from, it'll probably be like like like
Pluto for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah. You know, when you have kids and they're growing
up and you're watching them grow up right in a
different environment than what you grew up in, you start
to look at them and start to make a promise
to yourself, like I got to make.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It back home. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Absolutely, that's what I'm passionate about it. For some men,
it doesn't Now I say that, bro, and it's like,
by any means, that's my That's what I live a
boy like I got to get back home to my kids, bro,
no matter what, no infans or butts, you know what
I'm saying. So it's like certain environments I'm not even
gonna put myself in. I'm not even put myself in
certain situations, Like I don't care about saying no, Like
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you know what I'm saying. I if I feel like
I gotta double, like if I gotta think twice about
being in a certain space or being in a certain environment,
I just won't go, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's like, and I'm mature.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I had to get to a point in my life
and a point mentally why I think that way, you
know what I'm saying, Because I used to put myself
in harm's way a lot, Like I used to be
like that guy, like you know, Like I'm fearless in
a way. So that's why I be. I'm always thinking
about the best option. I'm smart because I'm not afraid
of anything like I used to be. Like, all right,
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even though I know it's dangerous, it's cool. I'm gonna
still go because I know I know what I'm capable of.
But I'm not going nowhere dangerous, Like that's where I'm
at right now, Like, even though I know it's dangerous,
I just won't go. It's not even the it factor,
Like all right, I know what I'm capable of. Because
me knowing what I'm capable of, it's bigger than that,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's universal law at that point.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Because you could be you could be capable of something
and the unexpected.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You gotta expect the unexpected at all times.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, man, we saw it out here.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
With it for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know what I mean, absolutely exactly exactly slipping. Yeah,
things happen for sure for sure. Yo, all the features
are crazy. Man, appreciate that twenty one is on the babies,
my brother.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Rob fo Nan, Sexy Red, Chief Keys, Baby.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
What's your feature process?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
My future process is like I like to get in
the studio a lot with like a lot of my peers.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But another thing is like I hear it like when
I when I record the song, Like when I go
and reach for features, I know who I want on
the record as soon as I'm done with it, like
even if I'm not in the studio creating with them.
When I'm done, Like when I recorded No Picture day
I record, I'm like, I'm getting so so on this.
When I recorded Team the day I record, I'm like,
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I'm getting Sexy Red on this, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like it's not like I'm fishing around for
these features, Like I'm already going to my mood board
and I'm just doing what I got to do, reaching
out to my peers to make sure they could get
their vocals in by this deadline.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know, what I'm saying, Like, that's how I do it.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We got the big white board out, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And I'm just reaching out to my to my peers,
like all right, bet, I got this record, I need
you on, Like I got this record, I need you
on if I'm not in the studio with them, Like
you feel what I'm saying, Like in the A, I
knew I was gonna get twenty one on it because
it only makes sense for real, Like that's my brother,
and when I'm in Atlanta, I only link with like him.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You feel what I'm.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Saying, link with him and his homies, you know, other
than like being with south Side or something like that.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know, yo, what are your thoughts on the south
Side is crazy? That's our guy.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Man.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
What did he call himself?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
BBLB Hey Man? If that ain't him, I don't know
what is man. If that's not my brother. If that's
not my brother, man, I don't know what is man.
For sure, Bulls, He's definitely going in the Hall of
Fame for BBL funding Man, Yo, what was.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
The most What was the most memorable session from big Sworth?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The most memorable session probably when me and Skller recorded
Shoot I had a lot of fun that session. Man,
we was in LA and we had did I think
me and Skller probably recorded like ten twelve songs that day.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know, me and.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Skller got a lot of music together. We probably gonna
end up doing a mixtape. But yeah, me and Skller
we recorded that. We was in the studio like thirty deep.
It was a bunch of people in there. We had vibes,
just good vibes in the studio. We had the chef
in there, like we was just like it was one
of them days where I feel like I got back
(15:34):
to like I ain't gonna say back, but I got
like in a groove of rapping, like you know how
like you getting the zone when you're doing something like
there's no missus Like. I think that from that day on,
I got in the zone of like just recording all
hard music. You feel what I'm saying, just all heat
from that point on. So that was probably my most
memorable for it was like a frequency for me. And
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Skiller said that too. He like, bro, you've been in
there crazy. He's on like, And I think it was
from that day forward, like every time I get in
the studio, it's like, you know, sometimes you will recording
songs you feel like all right, this one cool, this went,
Like I've been getting in the studio and I ain't
been having no records that I don't like or that
people around me don't like, because my homies be like
it's cool, you know. But like from Net, I think
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that was probably like nine months ago, Like I've really
been in a zone for like the past nine ten months,
and like it ain't been taking me long.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It ain't been hard for me. Like I was just
in the.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Studio with Chance and I was in the studio with
Bro for like forty five minutes and I probably recorded
one of the hardest verses that I recorded in a
long time.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Bro, Like that's a special place to be.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, yep, yep for Chances.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, that's right. So you're sitting on what maybe three,
four or five thousand songs.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Man, probably about I ain't gonna lie man from the
past like unreleased for real, and I'm gonna say from
the past. I'm gonna go as far back as maybe
two years, two or two years. I probably got like
a few thousand songs for sure, Like I gotta fold
in and my phone right now with about a thousand songs.
And I know that my DJ Vic he probably got
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about three four hundred songs in his computer. Oz probably
got about six hundred in his computer. Mick probably got
about a couple of hundred. But they all, yeah, they all, yeah,
for sure, they all organized though, they all in the
right folders. Yeah, I got them spread out. So I
have seven of your songs. No, for sure, you probably do.
(17:27):
For real, for sure, you probably do. I won't even
be surprised. Man Like Nick got a folder one hundreds
of songs, and Nick got a folder with a bunch
of songs, south Side got a folder with a bunch
of songs on it. Max Sloyd got a folder with
a bunch of songs. So like, I know who all
got my music. So I could go to the votes
and just go pull him out. But between all the people,
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I got a few thousand songs for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
As a fan of Hove and Wayne growing up and
watching them right from Afar and modeling what you do
after what they do, and now seeing the business side
of things growing up through that as well. You know,
the big talk is the Super Bowl, Yeah, Kendrick performing, Yeah, yeah, man,
and not Wayne.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Do you think Wayne should have been up there.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I definitely, absolutely, one hundred, one hundred percent excuse me,
believe that Wayne should have done the Super Bowl man,
because I'm not biased. I'm a big I'm a big
Wayne fan, you know what I'm saying. I'm a big
Kendrick fan. I love Kendrick. But just like culture wise,
you know what I'm saying. I don't I don't know
who's like in the committee or who in charge of it,
but I feel like if you if you weigh out
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those variables, when you weigh out what did it mean
to hip hop, what did it mean to the culture,
what did it mean to the city of New Orleans.
When you weigh out all those factors, who else would
it be, you know what I'm saying, other than Wayne,
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And it's like.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
The super Bowl, what the Super Bowl had time performance
has been to the culture. Everybody looks forward to that,
you know what I'm saying, And it's like your one
chance to like go back from your the beginning of
your career career to now, you know what I'm saying,
And like, as far like all these legendary performances from
Rihanna to Am to you know all, Yeah, exactly, Drean
(19:10):
Snoop and all these crazy performances that's happened over the years.
You would just expect to see what will Wayne bring
to the table for a halftime performance, you know what
I'm saying, because you always expect.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Like what are you gonna perform? What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
If it's that it's that easy of a decision to make,
why do you think that decision wasn't made.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I don't think it was an easy decision to make,
Like that's what I'm saying. Like that's why I said,
I don't really know. I don't really know who's like
in the committee or what, like the politics of it.
You feel what I'm saying, I don't really feel like
it's an easy decision to make, because if it was
an easy decision to make, I feel like it would
have been a no brain. It would have been Wayne,
you know what I'm saying. So I don't know what
varrials it might have been. Yeah, exactly in the midst
(19:51):
of that, you know what I'm saying. But I definitely
think that they kind of dropped the ball a little bit.
We're not having Wayne do the halftime perform.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Okay, Hell, Kendrick, you said that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I fuck with Kendrick for sure, like and and and
what I mean by that like just being a student
of hip hop. And you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
exactly a student hip hop and a fan of hip hop.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I don't even I'm not saying take it away from Kendrick,
you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like what
I feel like it would have been in the city
of New Orleans, Yeah, yeah, what would have made sense
for sure?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, man, big Sworth everywhere, Yeah, Man, gratulations on the
project time.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Man, I know you're excited.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We're excited for you for sure, bro Bro for real,
thank you bro man. And right now I could say,
you know, to the world and to everybody who's listening,
like this is just the beginning, Like I'm not letting
my foot off the gas, you know, like I'm about
to go on one of those runs where you you look
back in a couple of years and be like, all right,
it started here, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
I'm excited for that, And I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, with you all the way, do you appreciate it?
Bro Man, Big Swerve, Herbo, Let's go Cruise Show,
Y'all shout the DJ fuse for that intro, show Man, Man, definitely, Man,
appreciate it now when you walk into a radio station
and you get that kind of attention.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, yeah, I feel right.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
It just made me feel better about my album, like
it flowed good together.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Come on, big swork, Let's go, big swork.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yes, sir, congratulations on everything.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Thank you, Bro, on freedom, on music, you know, nonprofit everything.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Man, thank you of course, show Bro. I'm happy to
be here, yes, sir, Man.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You know when you're making this project, right, it took
a lot. I'm from what I understand, it took a
lot to make this project happen. Uh, you know, life
is life, and while you're working as well? What else
was happening while this project was being Man, in the
midst of it, how much of it is it?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Is it in the music?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
In the midst of it?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Man?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You know, I was, as everybody know, I was fighting
a federal case.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I was facing like some time and stuff like that.
But I wound up beating it.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Of course, man coming out because you know I was
innocent of course. Yeah yeah, yeah for sure, But man,
big swear Bro, I was just saying like this project
is probably took me the longest to actually like record
and put out, Like I was working on this album
for like four years for real, for real, and probably
a little longer than that, to be honest, close to
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five years. And I've been so many different people in
those five years.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know what I'm saying. Like I had to overcome
my legal troubles.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I lost my little brother in twenty twenty one, fatherhood,
I had two more kids, and really just going through
a lot personal on my personal life and getting my business. Well,
did you have to buy your way out of a dealer?
I actually I did a settlement so pretty much. It
was kind of you could say that I bought myself
(01:45):
out because it had a lot to do with like
money and numbers, you know, and we agreed on one thing,
and I was just about to, like you know what
I'm saying, get to that too, like get my business
in order and really getting the confidence and reinvent myself
as an artist, you know, Like I really I went
own kind of sort of a hiatus, not putting out
music for like a year, like over a year, and
always been independent. I always had like the freedom or
(02:08):
quote unquote somewhat the freedom to put out music like
at my own exposure, you know what I'm saying, at
my own time and my own scheduling. But that wasn't
really the case in my situation. So I had to
gain full control of my situation right now, you know,
and really in the midst of doing that and still
trying to stay productive and put out good music. You know,
(02:29):
I record good music and really like, I feel like
it was a reintroduction to the music industry of who
I am, who g Herbo is today. You know what
I'm saying, Who Swerve O Big Swerve is today? And
I feel like my music does capture that, you know
what I'm saying, because I'm not trying to talk about negativity,
you know, I'm trying to talk about positive energy and
(02:49):
the stuff that I'm focused on right now, and that's
being a star, you know, and that's what Big.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Sword is man for you.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
What's the big difference between Survivor's Remorse and Big Sward.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The difference is Survivors of Morse is.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, I was in a mental state while I
really was feeling Survivors of Morse, I was feeling like
grieve and I was feeling like, yeah, guilt and responsibility
for a lot of things that took place in my life,
you know what I'm saying, And guilt for losing my
little brother. And you know what I'm saying, me being
more so in the streets than he was, you know
(03:23):
what I'm saying, Like, and I'm like, I'm no stranger
to like more than people and more than people's death,
you know, But that woln't hit a little close to
home because I felt like, you know, he was one
of those people that you would never expect to die.
You know what I'm saying, That I would expect to
be here. So I was definitely having survivors of morse,
you know, because I ain't really want to like live
(03:45):
my life without my little brother, you know what I'm saying,
Like I didn't want to like reach certain levels of
success and stuff like that and him not be here
and me not being able to share it with him,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And when I put that music out, I was in
that space.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And you know a lot of people haven't really like
live life and experienced life on the level that I have,
you know, and on a level of really like experiencing
trauma and experiencing violence on.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
The level that I have, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And it sounds good to people who in Utah and
stuff like that, who never heard the experiences. It's entertaining
to them, but it's real life to me, you know.
And I don't want to have to feel like that,
because my music is always a product of who I
am and what I'm going through, you know what I'm saying.
So the difference between that and Big Swerve is Big
Swerve is I'm actually in a good mental space. I'm
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in a space where I'm confident about myself. I'm confident
about my music. I'm trying to have fun with it,
you know, and I'm actually enjoying the fruits of my label.
I did a lot, I overcame a lot, and I've
been through a lot to get where I am today.
So I should be able to enjoy talking about, you know,
making money and spending money and going out and looking
(04:58):
and feeling like a star and not feeling depressed and
feeling like I got to look over my shoulder all
day and feeling like I want to hurt somebody or
somebody want to hurt me, you know what I'm saying.
Because that is entertaining, and I want to speak to
my fans when they try to put me in a
box and feel like I have to. I'm an artist, bro,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like I know how
to rap, and I could rap about so many different things,
and I rap about my life. I'm not in the
(05:20):
streets no more. I don't want to be in the streets.
I don't want nothing to do with the streets, you
know what I'm saying. But I am a product of
the streets, you know I am. I have people who
are close to me and people who I love who
are still in the streets, but I'm trying to get
them out of the streets, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like I don't want to talk about this
type of stuff no more. You know what I'm saying,
Like if it was up to me, I would want
to exactly If it was up to me, I would
(05:40):
want to only rap about this, you know what I'm saying,
Being in La being in Miami, being in these other places,
going to travel and see the world, and going to
rap about stuff that I didn't even imagine myself experiencing
at all, you know what I'm saying. Like I come
from say knife and essence.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I never hear aspirations to be in another country on
the eye telling somewhere. You know what I'm saying that
growing up, you don't it's non existent around us, exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Right, and what's on TV.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And once we start to see the world, you start
realizing how different, how more there is out there for
us to have. And that's why we got to show
our kids the world and more than just our surrounding. Yeah,
and they're they're they're receptive and they're open to so many.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Exactly exactly, and like I feel like being a father
and experiencing fatherhood and make me want more for myself
because I don't want to have that energy, you know
what I'm saying, Like the mouth like manifestation and the
power of the tongue is it's real, Like the stuff
that you speak about and the stuff that you manifest
and foresee it come back to you, you know what
(06:42):
I'm saying. So it's like the energy that I want
around me is good positive energy. I want to rap
about having a lot of money. I want to rap
about traveling. I want to rap about being there with
my kids. I want to rap about that kind of
stuff you feel I'm saying, Like, don't get me wrong,
I am a product of my environment.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I am when I am.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I cut been through what I've been through and where
I came from. I'll never forget, you know what I'm saying.
But I feel like I don't want to still have
touch with that. I want to lose touch of the streets.
I don't want to care about what's going on in
the streets anymore, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And that's where I am fully always out? Yes, can
you fully be out?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I feel like because you gotta take that step too,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like it's okay to
always have that age and still be you know who
I am. I'm always gonna be able to protect myself
and protect my family at all costs. But that don't
mean that I have to be in the streets. The
streets ain't for me, you know what I'm saying. The
streets is.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
For who is for?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Like I'm not that guy anymore, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't want to be that guy. Like I want
to be a billionaire. You can't be a billionaire be
in the streets. It's impossible, no way. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's impossible, and that's what I want to do. I
got aspirations of being a billionaire, Like I don't want
to be a street dude.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We're gonna get it. Can I join you?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, I got you, I got you, I got you
this man, what I'm always share a wealth man, I'm
always share knowledge and share everything to you know what
I'm saying, Like everything that I know, I'm not gonna
keep it in my brain. I'm always gonna share it
so the world could always no never gain, never that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, we gotta grow for shure, Bro got to help
grow for shore show up now. Congrat sate your growth.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Man. It's remarketble to here man. And I think as
you know, people that grew.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Up with you, you know, so to speak through your music,
like as you elevate, they're gonna elevate with you, especially
if they consume me music that much.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, your message as it changes, could also change the
way people view things respect Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
For sure, Thank you Bro. Good. I could listen to
I listened to my old music.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And I could really still like hear where I was
as a person, like the environment that I was in,
the things that I was doing, Like it all go
right back to it, you know what I'm saying. So
I want somebody to be able to listen to my
music when I was sixteen, listen to my music when
I was twenty eight, and I feel like that's not
the same person because it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
People to growth, you know what I'm saying. And I'll
be seeing my fans.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I see people in the comments like, oh yeah, man,
he need to get back to this, Like I could
never get back to that unless I'm standing on same
nfe in essex dodging bullets, which I would never.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Be, you know what I'm saying, Like it's impossible.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
You know what's crazy is to like hear stories about
Chicago where you're from. These kids are eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen shooting people absolutely and it's a video game to them,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But it's real life.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It's real life, which it's very sad, and I feel
like they look at it like it's a video game, man,
except for you don't have.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No respond on in real life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Once you did, you did when you got a honey
of years life, You in jail for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I always hear aspirations to do something else. Even
when I was in the streets, I knew that that
was not my destiny. I knew that I wouldn't be
in the streets for the rest of my life because
I was moving towards something better, something.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Greater, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And I knew that God hit a different purpose for me,
you know. And if you don't have that, I feel
like it gotta be in you. Like if you don't
have it, you never will, you know what I'm saying,
Like you gotta have something in you, some kind of
drive to know that you better than that. Like I'm
not saying that I'm better than anybody, but I'm better
than that, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm better
at being in the streets.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
In your DNA or it's got something has to be
constantly in your ear telling you, yeah, but there's more, and.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
That you're more, that you're more than this.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
On your path to billionaireship, have you reached out to
any of your peers for like mentorships and stuff like that,
like being able to figure out how they did it
to get to their success as like a whole or
like someone in that that stratosphere that can point you
in that duration.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I always say, like I get a lot of like
insight from future, Like he talked to me a lot
like just about like from the outside looking in where
he feels like I'm at mentally, what do you feel
like I'm doing right? What do you feel like I'm
doing wrong? And you know, like the things that he do,
like with his money and how you take care of
his business, like we had those conversations, And always keep
it in the back of my head because I know
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it's possible, you know what I'm saying. I know it's
possible for me to do this and take the right steps.
And it's always strategic steps. You know, nothing is incidental.
You always got to make those strategic steps to make
sure that you're securing your livelihood, your children's and you're
putting yourself in the right positions to make your business
catapult and always elevate and get to the next level,
(11:13):
you know what I'm saying. So it's like I don't
want to just focus on music. I want to be
focused on a lot of other things while I'm doing music,
you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I definitely like
if I had to say, like who I probably get
the most insight from, it'll probably be like like like
Pluto for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah. You know, when you have kids and they're growing
up and you're watching them grow up right in a
different environment than what you grew up in, you start
to look at them and start to make a promise
to yourself, like I got to make.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It back home. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Absolutely, that's what I'm passionate about it. For some men,
it doesn't Now I say that, bro, and it's like,
by any means, that's my That's what I live a
boy like I got to get back home to my kids, bro,
no matter what, no infans or butts, you know what
I'm saying. So it's like certain environments I'm not even
gonna put myself in. I'm not even put myself in
certain situations, Like I don't care about saying no, Like
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you know what I'm saying. I if I feel like
I gotta double, like if I gotta think twice about
being in a certain space or being in a certain environment,
I just won't go, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's like, and I'm mature.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I had to get to a point in my life
and a point mentally why I think that way, you
know what I'm saying, Because I used to put myself
in harm's way a lot, Like I used to be
like that guy, like you know, Like I'm fearless in
a way. So that's why I be. I'm always thinking
about the best option. I'm smart because I'm not afraid
of anything like I used to be. Like, all right,
(12:35):
even though I know it's dangerous, it's cool. I'm gonna
still go because I know I know what I'm capable of.
But I'm not going nowhere dangerous, Like that's where I'm
at right now, Like, even though I know it's dangerous,
I just won't go. It's not even the it factor,
Like all right, I know what I'm capable of. Because
me knowing what I'm capable of, it's bigger than that,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's universal law at that point.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Because you could be you could be capable of something
and the unexpected.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You gotta expect the unexpected at all times.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, man, we saw it out here.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
With it for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know what I mean, absolutely exactly exactly slipping. Yeah,
things happen for sure for sure. Yo, all the features
are crazy. Man, appreciate that twenty one is on the babies,
my brother.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Rob fo Nan, Sexy Red, Chief Keys, Baby.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
What's your feature process?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
My future process is like I like to get in
the studio a lot with like a lot of my peers.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But another thing is like I hear it like when
I when I record the song, Like when I go
and reach for features, I know who I want on
the record as soon as I'm done with it, like
even if I'm not in the studio creating with them.
When I'm done, Like when I recorded No Picture day
I record, I'm like, I'm getting so so on this.
When I recorded Team the day I record, I'm like,
(13:51):
I'm getting Sexy Red on this, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like it's not like I'm fishing around for
these features, Like I'm already going to my mood board
and I'm just doing what I got to do, reaching
out to my peers to make sure they could get
their vocals in by this deadline.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know, what I'm saying, Like, that's how I do it.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We got the big white board out, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And I'm just reaching out to my to my peers,
like all right, bet, I got this record, I need
you on, Like I got this record, I need you
on if I'm not in the studio with them, Like
you feel what I'm saying, Like in the A, I
knew I was gonna get twenty one on it because
it only makes sense for real, Like that's my brother,
and when I'm in Atlanta, I only link with like him.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You feel what I'm.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Saying, link with him and his homies, you know, other
than like being with south Side or something like that.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know, yo, what are your thoughts on the south
Side is crazy? That's our guy.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Man.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
What did he call himself?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
BBLB Hey Man? If that ain't him, I don't know
what is man. If that's not my brother. If that's
not my brother, man, I don't know what is man.
For sure, Bulls, He's definitely going in the Hall of
Fame for BBL funding Man, Yo, what was.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
The most What was the most memorable session from big Sworth?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The most memorable session probably when me and Skller recorded
Shoot I had a lot of fun that session. Man,
we was in LA and we had did I think
me and Skller probably recorded like ten twelve songs that day.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know, me and.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Skller got a lot of music together. We probably gonna
end up doing a mixtape. But yeah, me and Skller
we recorded that. We was in the studio like thirty deep.
It was a bunch of people in there. We had vibes,
just good vibes in the studio. We had the chef
in there, like we was just like it was one
of them days where I feel like I got back
(15:34):
to like I ain't gonna say back, but I got
like in a groove of rapping, like you know how
like you getting the zone when you're doing something like
there's no missus Like. I think that from that day on,
I got in the zone of like just recording all
hard music. You feel what I'm saying, just all heat
from that point on. So that was probably my most
memorable for it was like a frequency for me. And
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Skiller said that too. He like, bro, you've been in
there crazy. He's on like, And I think it was
from that day forward, like every time I get in
the studio, it's like, you know, sometimes you will recording
songs you feel like all right, this one cool, this went,
Like I've been getting in the studio and I ain't
been having no records that I don't like or that
people around me don't like, because my homies be like
it's cool, you know. But like from Net, I think
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that was probably like nine months ago, Like I've really
been in a zone for like the past nine ten months,
and like it ain't been taking me long.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It ain't been hard for me. Like I was just
in the.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Studio with Chance and I was in the studio with
Bro for like forty five minutes and I probably recorded
one of the hardest verses that I recorded in a
long time.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Bro, Like that's a special place to be.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, yep, yep for Chances.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, that's right. So you're sitting on what maybe three,
four or five thousand songs.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Man, probably about I ain't gonna lie man from the
past like unreleased for real, and I'm gonna say from
the past. I'm gonna go as far back as maybe
two years, two or two years. I probably got like
a few thousand songs for sure, Like I gotta fold
in and my phone right now with about a thousand songs.
And I know that my DJ Vic he probably got
(17:06):
about three four hundred songs in his computer. Oz probably
got about six hundred in his computer. Mick probably got
about a couple of hundred. But they all, yeah, they all, yeah,
for sure, they all organized though, they all in the
right folders. Yeah, I got them spread out. So I
have seven of your songs. No, for sure, you probably do.
(17:27):
For real, for sure, you probably do. I won't even
be surprised. Man Like Nick got a folder one hundreds
of songs, and Nick got a folder with a bunch
of songs, south Side got a folder with a bunch
of songs on it. Max Sloyd got a folder with
a bunch of songs. So like, I know who all
got my music. So I could go to the votes
and just go pull him out. But between all the people,
(17:49):
I got a few thousand songs for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
As a fan of Hove and Wayne growing up and
watching them right from Afar and modeling what you do
after what they do, and now seeing the business side
of things growing up through that as well. You know,
the big talk is the Super Bowl, Yeah, Kendrick performing, Yeah, yeah, man,
and not Wayne.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Do you think Wayne should have been up there.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I definitely, absolutely, one hundred, one hundred percent excuse me,
believe that Wayne should have done the Super Bowl man,
because I'm not biased. I'm a big I'm a big
Wayne fan, you know what I'm saying. I'm a big
Kendrick fan. I love Kendrick. But just like culture wise,
you know what I'm saying. I don't I don't know
who's like in the committee or who in charge of it,
but I feel like if you if you weigh out
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those variables, when you weigh out what did it mean
to hip hop, what did it mean to the culture,
what did it mean to the city of New Orleans.
When you weigh out all those factors, who else would
it be, you know what I'm saying, other than Wayne,
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And it's like.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
The super Bowl, what the Super Bowl had time performance
has been to the culture. Everybody looks forward to that,
you know what I'm saying, And it's like your one
chance to like go back from your the beginning of
your career career to now, you know what I'm saying,
And like, as far like all these legendary performances from
Rihanna to Am to you know all, Yeah, exactly, Drean
(19:10):
Snoop and all these crazy performances that's happened over the years.
You would just expect to see what will Wayne bring
to the table for a halftime performance, you know what
I'm saying, because you always expect.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Like what are you gonna perform? What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
If it's that it's that easy of a decision to make,
why do you think that decision wasn't made.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I don't think it was an easy decision to make,
Like that's what I'm saying. Like that's why I said,
I don't really know. I don't really know who's like
in the committee or what, like the politics of it.
You feel what I'm saying, I don't really feel like
it's an easy decision to make, because if it was
an easy decision to make, I feel like it would
have been a no brain. It would have been Wayne,
you know what I'm saying. So I don't know what
varrials it might have been. Yeah, exactly in the midst
(19:51):
of that, you know what I'm saying. But I definitely
think that they kind of dropped the ball a little bit.
We're not having Wayne do the halftime perform.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Okay, Hell, Kendrick, you said that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I fuck with Kendrick for sure, like and and and
what I mean by that like just being a student
of hip hop. And you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
exactly a student hip hop and a fan of hip hop.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I don't even I'm not saying take it away from Kendrick,
you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like what
I feel like it would have been in the city
of New Orleans, Yeah, yeah, what would have made sense
for sure?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, man, big Sworth everywhere, Yeah, Man, gratulations on the
project time.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Man, I know you're excited.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We're excited for you for sure, bro Bro for real,
thank you bro man. And right now I could say,
you know, to the world and to everybody who's listening,
like this is just the beginning, Like I'm not letting
my foot off the gas, you know, like I'm about
to go on one of those runs where you you look
back in a couple of years and be like, all right,
it started here, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
I'm excited for that, And I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, with you all the way, do you appreciate it?
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