June 5, 2025 • 22 mins
The Ritual is in theaters now & Maria Camila Giraldo stopped by the Cruz Show to talk about this scary flick. Jackie was completely freaked out by the whole situation. Check in
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's the good.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is John Legend and you're checking out the Cruise
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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you subscribe, rate and share. Okay, Maria, give us all
your names, Give us all your names.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Maria came de Garson is on the Cruise Show. Great, amazing,
happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thank you for being with us. You look great.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Jack your marriage usually sits right there, but her fiance
Nico has uh has decided he's gonna sit there because
Jackie is very scared. I've heard the ritual just the
trailer freaked throughout, so you know this is gonna be
a good wow.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I mean nothing against you. You're very You're amazing accurate.
It's the problem, but I'm just very like cautious when.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It comes to what is it.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Do you think because she did a movie this or
you know, she did a movie like that, that's gonna
rub off on her and then it'll rub off on you.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I firmly like believe that if someone's like involved in
like a like a movie of some sort of like,
then something has to stick with someone.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean I do believe in that too.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Like when we were filming, there were definitely some things
in the air that felt kind of like weird.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
See I told you, See I told them this. I
was like, guys, I'm pretty sure like something happened.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You did say this in an interview. You said that
all of you felt something.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Yeah, So like as soon as I landed, I remember
like feeling something and I was like jet lag. I
was very tired, so I was like, maybe it's me,
but there was definitely something going on in the town.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And then I get into rehearsals.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
The first person I meet is Ashley Green, and she's
there and she's like, do you feel anything in the house,
And I'm like a little bit. And then things like
we started doing the the scenes and like we are
doing the actual prayers of ourn exorcism, and we were
bringing those energy, and the more we started doing it,
(02:02):
the more things started to happen, and like the more
kind of like tangible kind of like felt it was.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Start feeling the energy and it's kind of warm or cold, and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Was more warm.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
And then like just random things would happen, like things
would fall, and like doors would open, waters would open,
things would get lost, like just things that you know, like.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What's the crazy Why what's the craziest thing that happened the.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Craziest thing that happened on set? I don't know. I
this is a story.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
This is a rumor because I didn't meet him. But
the Gayer apparently like a guy that has been working
in the industry.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
For like a really long time.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
He retired after this movie because like, weird things were happening.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I know, I give it to you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I give it to you, you know, walking around like,
what are you guys worried about it?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I've been doing this for years.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It means not that he cares zero.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
He was He's out patining, like he's just doing.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. He's like you know, like all
the movies we know about.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Him, and like this intensity that he brings that's literally
what you see. Like I I was so in awe
of everything that he just did.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was amazing. It was an amazing face.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now did you get blessed before or after? Both?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Both?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Actually?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
One of the what this the mother Patricia Heaton that
plays the mother in the convent, She gave us medals
of protections like her sister is an actual nun, and
she did these medals for exorcisms, uh, to protect us
all and she gave it all away and she had
like specific prayers for us, which was really helpful.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Because I do believe in that a lot.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
It was yeah, yeah, wow, okay, so that that stuff
happened on set, But what about when you got home?
Did you notice anything?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
When I got home, multiple times, I would feel like, things,
You'll be.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Fine, right, she might just walk out right now, Nika.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
You may need like extra cuddling tonight because I can
say here, yeah, Like I remember my fiancee came to
visit and he doesn't believe in this at all, and
he was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Like there's nothing happening, and I'm like, there is, like
just there is.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Then we were sleeping in separate rooms because the bets
were so tiny, and then he was like, did you
came into my room last night?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
And I'm like no.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
He's like, yeah, you opened the door three times, and
I'm like I did not. I was completely asleep there.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Nothing happened.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
And then like it was kind of winter kind of
not it was like already March, and they blamed that
the water kept opening because of the I don't know
the changes of pressure I don't know what it was,
but it didn't make any sense.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I was like, why does it keep opening? Like I
just closed it? What's going on? Yeah? So definitely at home, Yes,
and I'm great.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You want to switch places?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yes, everyone ends up in the corner here, no one
to talk to me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I want to fish this interview in the hallway. I'll
see you guys later. I want to call in the
rest of my questions. This is wild. Early on, you
felt you needed to leave Columbia right then.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I needed Yeah, Yeah, I didn't need it.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I wanted more my career, Like I was doing a
lot of telenovelas, all the soap operas, and I felt like,
I don't know, I wanted something more Hollywood, more Alpacina,
more kind of like the scripts that I'm actually doing
right now, which I'm really grateful and happy to be
in this journey.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So yeah, yeah, it take.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Scuts and it's okay to leave home.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I think, you know, to go home or to leave home,
and you know you can always come back. You know
that there's people that love you there, right, but you
have to branch out, you have to take a leap
of faith.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yes, yes, it definitely, like I kind of like had
this question in myself, like can I do more?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And I was like, I maybe can.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
And I just started knocking doors like years ago and
started doing the process of transitioning, meeting people here and
connecting with more managers whatever, and little by little and
like now I look back and I'm like, wow, I'm
doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's insane, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Crazy, youngs. What was the audition process for for the ritual?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It was it was fun.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I started auditioning for Sister Maria, and actually my name
is Maria Camilla and I played Sister Camilla.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So I think it was something there for me. There
was something there for me. I started auditioning for Sister Maria.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Then they wanted to kind of like dive into the
immigrant side with Sister Camilla. When I met with the director,
he was like, I think you would be better in
Sister Camilla. And I definitely connected more with Sister Camilla.
She we don't see this in the movie, but her
story is a story of anrant kind of like the
way that we raise the stakes for this character is
(07:04):
because there's a lot of immigration happening in nineteen twenties.
Immigrants are going through a very hard time back in
the time, and then she comes here to this convent
kind of looking for hope, and then she finds an exorcism,
which is like the worst.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Thing that can happen. So anyway, Yeah, that to just
so like a story about like sister Kamila.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And the movie is based on actual events. Yes, so
when you get the.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Script right and you're reading these words and you're thinking
this really happened, right, you got to throw yourself into
it too.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, Yeah, what's that like.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Kind of like closer to reality more?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
We're saying like it feels more than just a jump
scare kind of movie, Like it's not just a.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Simple horror movie.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Feels very real, which to me kind of like drove
my attention. I was like, Oh, this is I find
this to be more interested in that a simple horror
movie because we're navigating the story of this girl that
is going we don't know if she's going through by
polar disorders, schizophrenia, or that she actually need an exorcism,
And I found out to be very interesting. And then
(08:06):
now that I've seen the movie, I think it's even
more scary to know that it's based on a real
life story, that this is actually this, this actually can
happen to any of us.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's why Jackie's over there. Jackie want happening to her.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Her dad told her a crazy story that freaked her out.
Mom once played with a Wuiji board and it freaked
her out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Geez, oh sorry, my dad.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
My dad went to school. He was sent to school
in Mexico and when he was like twelve, and he
said that at one point, you know, they would always
the boys in the school would always just do these
random jokes and everything like that, random pranks, and that
one kid ended up like just getting really really sick.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And he said.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
That, like nobody knew why stop going to class, and
they would all dorm in that in the school and
eventually and they had a priest there and everything like that,
and eventually, at one night they just saw all the
boys started getting up because they heard a skateboard going
back and forth down the hallways. And when they got
up and they looked outside that the skateboard was on fire.
(09:13):
And they were like, oh, somebody's just playing a prank.
But then the priest started going to this kid's room
and lo and behold, they performed in extoricism right then
and there, and my dad said that when he like
kind of peeked in, he was just he was like,
I've never heard screams like that. I've never heard. I've
never seen And from that moment on, you just went away.
(09:34):
And he's like, and we never talked. They never talked
about it at the school and they just act and
he's like, and he just the next year, the kid
didn't come back to school.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Jesus.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Then he turned to me and he said, welcome to
the family, and here you are.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And here you are.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I lived across the street from a church and one
night it was like three am. I woke up to
loud screams too coming from the church, and I'm that
was like the first place my might went to. It
was like there was something happening.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh my god, like definitely, that's so scary. It's real. Yeah,
it is real.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Like I honestly, you know, I thought that it was
like exorcisms were like a thing that happened in movies
and you know, like it's not that real. But then
like doing this movie, we actually got to talk to specially.
It is like people that dedicate themselves to research all
the things about exorcisms and all the story about it
and all the history, and I realized, oh, my god,
(10:31):
this is more real than I actually kind of like
ever thought, like it never crossed my mind. I was like, oh, movies,
but no, this is this is this is this happens
and it's more close than we know.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, is there a scene that you're close to in
the movie but you think to yourself, I can't wait
for the people to see this scene.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Ah, there's a lot of scenes. I feel like there's
a lot of moments.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I feel like by the.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
End of the movie, the intensity is so and high,
like it's so so intense that people are really going
to feel what we went through and what we're telling,
like everything that these characters went through by this through
the Sexorcism. There's one scene that Sister Camilla has where
(11:16):
she gets like kind of like the devil taps to
the weakest parts of each person and to Sister Camilla
was her Mexican side and this immigration side, and she
taps to her, speaking to her in Spanish.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I feel like that was very powerful.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Like that and it was very I want to say
that characters always come to you when your story connects
to the characters, and like for my grandma. It's someone
that is very important to me, and she passed away
and I never gets to say bye. And this movie
kind of like how it's written is the devil starts
talking as the grandma and like why you didn't say
(11:53):
goodbye to me? So it was very personal. It was
very close. So like when she started saying that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Kind of like felt very very real. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Yeah, I didn't have to bring any acting, like any techniques, nothing.
It was like me and my story and like kind
of like living that.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It was.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
It was very surreal and all of these scenes were
already like integrated into the story without you even like, yeah,
that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah that.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
When I read the script, I was like, And when
the director told me, I think you would connect more
with Sister Camilla and I read Sister Camilla more in.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Depth, I was like, oh, yeah, I see that. I
see why.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Right, are you allowed to improvise or you know, create
something out of out of nothing I guess a feeling?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, yeah, and definitely with with all you definitely have
to stay on your feet and create out of your
feel because al Pacino will come with like Pacini.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And you will come with like very.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Lots of energies and lots of different things, and you
would have to stay.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Ready and there's no time to think that's not on
the script.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
No no, no, no no, you just have to go.
And like that's really fun. I love that.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
I love that improv I love that creative process there,
like yeah, happening.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
When you were a little growing up, you used to
create your own like your own talk shows, yeah, right on,
like short movies.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
My mom gave me this video camera and I would
put my cousins like different roles. I'm like, you are
going to be the I don't know, the talk you're
gonna be hosting with me. You're gonna be the guy
who comes for an interview, and like we would have
like our own talk show. Okay, action, and I have
that film on camera, like we would put it in
(13:25):
the closet and we were I don't know, it's hilarious.
Like when I see it, like, I don't know, this
makes sense. Like whatever I'm doing right now, I'm like,
I just I guess I was born to do this.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you're manifesting yeah as a child.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And you get to show your family one day yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Yeah, and like now I remember I was in Colombia
actually when I got the call that I had booked
the job, and I was filming a novela there and
I didn't tell my parents that I got the collh
blah blah blah. But I flew like two days after
and I'm having dinner with them and my fiance. He's
the one who says like, so we have a surprise,
and they're like what they're thinking, we're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And I'm like, Latini, yeah, pregnant. You must be pregnant.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah, literally, and they were.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
They were like so happy, and I'm like, no, hold on,
you should be happy, but like it's not about that.
It's actually about a movie with al Pacino. And you know,
like my parents are not in the entertainment industry, so
like if I tell them, I don't know, I'm doing
a movie with this new star, they are not they
don't understand so much. But al Pacino he translates, like, yeah,
my dad was like al Pacino, like the al Pacino,
(14:37):
and I'm like, yeah, I'm doing it. He's he was
very impressed and very proud. That was a very kind
of like special.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You made it, You made it friends. My dad says
all the time, yeah, the ritual. Are you happy with
the ending?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very happy. I think, uh, people are
going to be gladly surprised, gladly scared.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
If people love horror movies, this is going to be
one of the fan favorites because it's based on a
real life story and it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Feels more close to home.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
It feels very The camera and what the director was
going for was kind of like a very documentary kind
of style, so it feels very it feels.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Even more very real. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
So I feel people are going to connect with that, even.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
If they're a scene after the credits.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
No no, no, no, the scene and yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah and the end, right, People are.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
More inclined to watch like a horror film if it's
based on a true story.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, because people are kind of tired of the
jump scares and like the silly things, and like people
want to feel something and connect with something.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I feel like that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
When I was a kid, I used to watch movies
like this all the time in the dark, which one
anything between like paranormal activity, and I could get into
the goofy stuff like scary movie. One scary movie, right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
But like the extorcism exercise.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I watched all of that and then my mom would
come in one day and she's like, hey, like are.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You okay, And oh, yeah, I'm good. You know I'm chilling.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, I remember, yeah, I was. I remember renting kind
of like when Blockbuster was like renting the Blockbusters and
it was horror movies with my friends and kind of
like the same.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
My mom was like, why are you guys doing this?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Because my friends and I were like so scared, like
watching like underneath the covers, like no one was really.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Watching he right, yeah, like just could leave the room.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, And I was like, why do you guys even
do this? You don't even enjoy this. It's a feeling, mom, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It was a moment in time.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Definitely, the ritual in theaters.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Congratulations, thank you. You didn't hear in a movie with APO.
You know, your parents get to see it and you know,
live live through you.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Amazing my first American movie in theaters, which is really exciting.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Do you think your work in novellas have like prepared
you for this kind of movie too?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Definitely, you've got to be dramatic in novella's right.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah, And also, like I feel doing novellas is a
very interesting training camp because you have to do twenty
nine scenes a day, learn all your lines. You do
one take sometimes and that that's all you get. Like
I remember just there's been times that you just like
one take only and you have to be ready and
three two one action.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Because they show these on like a daily basis, so yeah,
they turn and.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
We're doing like sixty episodes, so like it's really intense,
and I feel like that preparation definitely, Like I don't know,
whenever I.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Have to bring an emotion, I'm like, I got it,
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I got it, it's there. I've been doing this. Yeah,
it's almost like being on stage then, right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
You have to be one hundred percent available emotionally. I
remember even like back then, one TV network in Mexico
used to make you do your pieces and the director
will tell you different things that he wanted. So like
I remember I was probably like sixteen and this director
was like, okay, that was great on the ear piece.
(18:10):
Now cry and it's life. It's happening right now, it's
like the camera is rolling and I'm like, right, okay.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Sure, you have to start right.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
That's why it's like so dramatic, because you have to
bring the emotion like so like.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Oh think about or like where do you dig to
get those tears on the spot.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
I feel like it's the training. I feel like it's
just like the connection. I just have to be really grounded.
If I'm having a day where I'm like having something
outside of like I don't know, my emotional like family
or something is happening, that definitely doesn't help because it's
taking me out of the moment that I am and there,
and that's that's not helpful. But yeah, on on on
(18:54):
on side. You just have to have it ready.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, just go for it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That cries when.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
As yea, I told him that.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
If he's not crying by the time I'm walking down
the aisle, I'm walking back and starting all over, He's.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Going to restart again.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Again.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'm sorry, guys, Yeah about it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Let's do that. Yes, maybe think about a pat that
you lost when you were.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, what do we have?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I hear that works?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I mean, my my other dog passed away a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
There you go sixteen, So.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Tap into tap into that, honestly, that to be honest,
that does not help to me, Like I cannot when
I there's techniques of techniques, and for me that doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Like I can't tap into something of the past because
for me it's in the past. Like I have to
live in the moment. If an emotion is not coming, what.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Do you think of you cheated on or something? What
do you think?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No, I just go to like whatever is happening in
the moment, and like what's frustrating me.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Like kind of like the intensity of like the now
and like so like think about, like what's frustrating about
Jackie When you're.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Matter of fact, I have a whole list. You're gonna
get him in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No that I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
What could help us later on is mushrooms though.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Mushrooms, Yeah, mushrooms, Like what kind of mushrooms you know.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Like mushroom Their mushrooms are different.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, like mushrooms. Are we talking about like special mushroom
like magic mushrooms?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Okay, that's something. Is that something that you and your
fiance are into?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Oh, you're talking about funments like our supplement company.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
For help, not for.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
We're doing that life.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I was like, that's happening here, you know, you forget
you're in l a and you can talk about those Yes, yes, yes,
we have hot Yeah, we're we have a supplement company.
It's called Fungements fung Guise Supplements.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But it's not magic. It's actually it's okay, it's it's other.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Kind of magic because it gives you energy, it helps
you with sleep, it helps me with digestion.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
We started this company because I had a really tough time.
I had a concussion.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It rocked my world three years ago, and I didn't
want to go in the route of medications, and I
started looking for natural alternatives and I found a really
great relief in mushrooms and adaptogens, and I was like,
I really want to share this with the world.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So that's the story behind Fungments.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah. Look, I haven't been to the doctor in like
eight years.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's that's how healthy we are.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Healthy.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
We are are you giving her? Where are you giving him?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I just drink water water. She cooks for him. It's
very good.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yes, that's good. Is your medicine?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Last night?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
She lives.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
That's good, so good. It was just in Mexico City
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh yeah, so you had the real deal. Not that
yours isn't real, you know. I'm saying from the motherland
is different.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah different. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
The ritual in theaters. Yo, watch it everybody. Maria, thank
you very much for your time.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Thanks your talent.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Congratulations, thank you, thank you, thank you for having me
this great pay check, your rich from the Cruse Show.
Thanks for listening to The Cruise Show podcast. To make
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Speaker 4 (22:29):
So
What's the good.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is John Legend and you're checking out the Cruise
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And you're checking out the Cruise Show podcast. Make sure
you subscribe, rate and share. Okay, Maria, give us all
your names, Give us all your names.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Maria came de Garson is on the Cruise Show. Great, amazing,
happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thank you for being with us. You look great.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Jack your marriage usually sits right there, but her fiance
Nico has uh has decided he's gonna sit there because
Jackie is very scared. I've heard the ritual just the
trailer freaked throughout, so you know this is gonna be
a good wow.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I mean nothing against you. You're very You're amazing accurate.
It's the problem, but I'm just very like cautious when.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It comes to what is it.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Do you think because she did a movie this or
you know, she did a movie like that, that's gonna
rub off on her and then it'll rub off on you.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I firmly like believe that if someone's like involved in
like a like a movie of some sort of like,
then something has to stick with someone.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean I do believe in that too.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Like when we were filming, there were definitely some things
in the air that felt kind of like weird.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
See I told you, See I told them this. I
was like, guys, I'm pretty sure like something happened.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You did say this in an interview. You said that
all of you felt something.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Yeah, So like as soon as I landed, I remember
like feeling something and I was like jet lag. I
was very tired, so I was like, maybe it's me,
but there was definitely something going on in the town.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And then I get into rehearsals.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
The first person I meet is Ashley Green, and she's
there and she's like, do you feel anything in the house,
And I'm like a little bit. And then things like
we started doing the the scenes and like we are
doing the actual prayers of ourn exorcism, and we were
bringing those energy, and the more we started doing it,
(02:02):
the more things started to happen, and like the more
kind of like tangible kind of like felt it was.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Start feeling the energy and it's kind of warm or cold, and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Was more warm.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
And then like just random things would happen, like things
would fall, and like doors would open, waters would open,
things would get lost, like just things that you know, like.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What's the crazy Why what's the craziest thing that happened the.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Craziest thing that happened on set? I don't know. I
this is a story.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
This is a rumor because I didn't meet him. But
the Gayer apparently like a guy that has been working
in the industry.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
For like a really long time.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
He retired after this movie because like, weird things were happening.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I know, I give it to you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I give it to you, you know, walking around like,
what are you guys worried about it?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I've been doing this for years.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It means not that he cares zero.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
He was He's out patining, like he's just doing.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. He's like you know, like all
the movies we know about.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Him, and like this intensity that he brings that's literally
what you see. Like I I was so in awe
of everything that he just did.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was amazing. It was an amazing face.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now did you get blessed before or after? Both?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Both?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Actually?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
One of the what this the mother Patricia Heaton that
plays the mother in the convent, She gave us medals
of protections like her sister is an actual nun, and
she did these medals for exorcisms, uh, to protect us
all and she gave it all away and she had
like specific prayers for us, which was really helpful.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Because I do believe in that a lot.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
It was yeah, yeah, wow, okay, so that that stuff
happened on set, But what about when you got home?
Did you notice anything?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
When I got home, multiple times, I would feel like, things,
You'll be.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Fine, right, she might just walk out right now, Nika.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
You may need like extra cuddling tonight because I can
say here, yeah, Like I remember my fiancee came to
visit and he doesn't believe in this at all, and
he was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Like there's nothing happening, and I'm like, there is, like
just there is.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Then we were sleeping in separate rooms because the bets
were so tiny, and then he was like, did you
came into my room last night?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
And I'm like no.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
He's like, yeah, you opened the door three times, and
I'm like I did not. I was completely asleep there.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Nothing happened.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
And then like it was kind of winter kind of
not it was like already March, and they blamed that
the water kept opening because of the I don't know
the changes of pressure I don't know what it was,
but it didn't make any sense.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I was like, why does it keep opening? Like I
just closed it? What's going on? Yeah? So definitely at home, Yes,
and I'm great.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You want to switch places?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yes, everyone ends up in the corner here, no one
to talk to me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I want to fish this interview in the hallway. I'll
see you guys later. I want to call in the
rest of my questions. This is wild. Early on, you
felt you needed to leave Columbia right then.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I needed Yeah, Yeah, I didn't need it.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I wanted more my career, Like I was doing a
lot of telenovelas, all the soap operas, and I felt like,
I don't know, I wanted something more Hollywood, more Alpacina,
more kind of like the scripts that I'm actually doing
right now, which I'm really grateful and happy to be
in this journey.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So yeah, yeah, it take.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Scuts and it's okay to leave home.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I think, you know, to go home or to leave home,
and you know you can always come back. You know
that there's people that love you there, right, but you
have to branch out, you have to take a leap
of faith.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yes, yes, it definitely, like I kind of like had
this question in myself, like can I do more?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And I was like, I maybe can.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
And I just started knocking doors like years ago and
started doing the process of transitioning, meeting people here and
connecting with more managers whatever, and little by little and
like now I look back and I'm like, wow, I'm
doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's insane, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Crazy, youngs. What was the audition process for for the ritual?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It was it was fun.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I started auditioning for Sister Maria, and actually my name
is Maria Camilla and I played Sister Camilla.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So I think it was something there for me. There
was something there for me. I started auditioning for Sister Maria.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Then they wanted to kind of like dive into the
immigrant side with Sister Camilla. When I met with the director,
he was like, I think you would be better in
Sister Camilla. And I definitely connected more with Sister Camilla.
She we don't see this in the movie, but her
story is a story of anrant kind of like the
way that we raise the stakes for this character is
(07:04):
because there's a lot of immigration happening in nineteen twenties.
Immigrants are going through a very hard time back in
the time, and then she comes here to this convent
kind of looking for hope, and then she finds an exorcism,
which is like the worst.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Thing that can happen. So anyway, Yeah, that to just
so like a story about like sister Kamila.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And the movie is based on actual events. Yes, so
when you get the.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Script right and you're reading these words and you're thinking
this really happened, right, you got to throw yourself into
it too.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, Yeah, what's that like.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Kind of like closer to reality more?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
We're saying like it feels more than just a jump
scare kind of movie, Like it's not just a.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Simple horror movie.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Feels very real, which to me kind of like drove
my attention. I was like, Oh, this is I find
this to be more interested in that a simple horror
movie because we're navigating the story of this girl that
is going we don't know if she's going through by
polar disorders, schizophrenia, or that she actually need an exorcism,
And I found out to be very interesting. And then
(08:06):
now that I've seen the movie, I think it's even
more scary to know that it's based on a real
life story, that this is actually this, this actually can
happen to any of us.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's why Jackie's over there. Jackie want happening to her.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Her dad told her a crazy story that freaked her out.
Mom once played with a Wuiji board and it freaked
her out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Geez, oh sorry, my dad.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
My dad went to school. He was sent to school
in Mexico and when he was like twelve, and he
said that at one point, you know, they would always
the boys in the school would always just do these
random jokes and everything like that, random pranks, and that
one kid ended up like just getting really really sick.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And he said.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
That, like nobody knew why stop going to class, and
they would all dorm in that in the school and
eventually and they had a priest there and everything like that,
and eventually, at one night they just saw all the
boys started getting up because they heard a skateboard going
back and forth down the hallways. And when they got
up and they looked outside that the skateboard was on fire.
(09:13):
And they were like, oh, somebody's just playing a prank.
But then the priest started going to this kid's room
and lo and behold, they performed in extoricism right then
and there, and my dad said that when he like
kind of peeked in, he was just he was like,
I've never heard screams like that. I've never heard. I've
never seen And from that moment on, you just went away.
(09:34):
And he's like, and we never talked. They never talked
about it at the school and they just act and
he's like, and he just the next year, the kid
didn't come back to school.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Jesus.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Then he turned to me and he said, welcome to
the family, and here you are.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And here you are.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I lived across the street from a church and one
night it was like three am. I woke up to
loud screams too coming from the church, and I'm that
was like the first place my might went to. It
was like there was something happening.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh my god, like definitely, that's so scary. It's real. Yeah,
it is real.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Like I honestly, you know, I thought that it was
like exorcisms were like a thing that happened in movies
and you know, like it's not that real. But then
like doing this movie, we actually got to talk to specially.
It is like people that dedicate themselves to research all
the things about exorcisms and all the story about it
and all the history, and I realized, oh, my god,
(10:31):
this is more real than I actually kind of like
ever thought, like it never crossed my mind. I was like, oh, movies,
but no, this is this is this is this happens
and it's more close than we know.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, is there a scene that you're close to in
the movie but you think to yourself, I can't wait
for the people to see this scene.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Ah, there's a lot of scenes. I feel like there's
a lot of moments.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I feel like by the.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
End of the movie, the intensity is so and high,
like it's so so intense that people are really going
to feel what we went through and what we're telling,
like everything that these characters went through by this through
the Sexorcism. There's one scene that Sister Camilla has where
(11:16):
she gets like kind of like the devil taps to
the weakest parts of each person and to Sister Camilla
was her Mexican side and this immigration side, and she
taps to her, speaking to her in Spanish.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I feel like that was very powerful.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Like that and it was very I want to say
that characters always come to you when your story connects
to the characters, and like for my grandma. It's someone
that is very important to me, and she passed away
and I never gets to say bye. And this movie
kind of like how it's written is the devil starts
talking as the grandma and like why you didn't say
(11:53):
goodbye to me? So it was very personal. It was
very close. So like when she started saying that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Kind of like felt very very real. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Yeah, I didn't have to bring any acting, like any techniques, nothing.
It was like me and my story and like kind
of like living that.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It was.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
It was very surreal and all of these scenes were
already like integrated into the story without you even like, yeah,
that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah that.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
When I read the script, I was like, And when
the director told me, I think you would connect more
with Sister Camilla and I read Sister Camilla more in.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Depth, I was like, oh, yeah, I see that. I
see why.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Right, are you allowed to improvise or you know, create
something out of out of nothing I guess a feeling?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, yeah, and definitely with with all you definitely have
to stay on your feet and create out of your
feel because al Pacino will come with like Pacini.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And you will come with like very.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Lots of energies and lots of different things, and you
would have to stay.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Ready and there's no time to think that's not on
the script.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
No no, no, no no, you just have to go.
And like that's really fun. I love that.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
I love that improv I love that creative process there,
like yeah, happening.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
When you were a little growing up, you used to
create your own like your own talk shows, yeah, right on,
like short movies.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
My mom gave me this video camera and I would
put my cousins like different roles. I'm like, you are
going to be the I don't know, the talk you're
gonna be hosting with me. You're gonna be the guy
who comes for an interview, and like we would have
like our own talk show. Okay, action, and I have
that film on camera, like we would put it in
(13:25):
the closet and we were I don't know, it's hilarious.
Like when I see it, like, I don't know, this
makes sense. Like whatever I'm doing right now, I'm like,
I just I guess I was born to do this.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you're manifesting yeah as a child.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And you get to show your family one day yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Yeah, and like now I remember I was in Colombia
actually when I got the call that I had booked
the job, and I was filming a novela there and
I didn't tell my parents that I got the collh
blah blah blah. But I flew like two days after
and I'm having dinner with them and my fiance. He's
the one who says like, so we have a surprise,
and they're like what they're thinking, we're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And I'm like, Latini, yeah, pregnant. You must be pregnant.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah, literally, and they were.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
They were like so happy, and I'm like, no, hold on,
you should be happy, but like it's not about that.
It's actually about a movie with al Pacino. And you know,
like my parents are not in the entertainment industry, so
like if I tell them, I don't know, I'm doing
a movie with this new star, they are not they
don't understand so much. But al Pacino he translates, like, yeah,
my dad was like al Pacino, like the al Pacino,
(14:37):
and I'm like, yeah, I'm doing it. He's he was
very impressed and very proud. That was a very kind
of like special.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You made it, You made it friends. My dad says
all the time, yeah, the ritual. Are you happy with
the ending?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very happy. I think, uh, people are
going to be gladly surprised, gladly scared.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
If people love horror movies, this is going to be
one of the fan favorites because it's based on a
real life story and it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Feels more close to home.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
It feels very The camera and what the director was
going for was kind of like a very documentary kind
of style, so it feels very it feels.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Even more very real. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
So I feel people are going to connect with that, even.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
If they're a scene after the credits.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
No no, no, no, the scene and yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah and the end, right, People are.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
More inclined to watch like a horror film if it's
based on a true story.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, because people are kind of tired of the
jump scares and like the silly things, and like people
want to feel something and connect with something.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I feel like that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
When I was a kid, I used to watch movies
like this all the time in the dark, which one
anything between like paranormal activity, and I could get into
the goofy stuff like scary movie. One scary movie, right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
But like the extorcism exercise.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I watched all of that and then my mom would
come in one day and she's like, hey, like are.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You okay, And oh, yeah, I'm good. You know I'm chilling.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, I remember, yeah, I was. I remember renting kind
of like when Blockbuster was like renting the Blockbusters and
it was horror movies with my friends and kind of
like the same.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
My mom was like, why are you guys doing this?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Because my friends and I were like so scared, like
watching like underneath the covers, like no one was really.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Watching he right, yeah, like just could leave the room.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, And I was like, why do you guys even
do this? You don't even enjoy this. It's a feeling, mom, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It was a moment in time.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Definitely, the ritual in theaters.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Congratulations, thank you. You didn't hear in a movie with APO.
You know, your parents get to see it and you know,
live live through you.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Amazing my first American movie in theaters, which is really exciting.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Do you think your work in novellas have like prepared
you for this kind of movie too?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Definitely, you've got to be dramatic in novella's right.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah, And also, like I feel doing novellas is a
very interesting training camp because you have to do twenty
nine scenes a day, learn all your lines. You do
one take sometimes and that that's all you get. Like
I remember just there's been times that you just like
one take only and you have to be ready and
three two one action.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Because they show these on like a daily basis, so yeah,
they turn and.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
We're doing like sixty episodes, so like it's really intense,
and I feel like that preparation definitely, Like I don't know,
whenever I.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Have to bring an emotion, I'm like, I got it,
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I got it, it's there. I've been doing this. Yeah,
it's almost like being on stage then, right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
You have to be one hundred percent available emotionally. I
remember even like back then, one TV network in Mexico
used to make you do your pieces and the director
will tell you different things that he wanted. So like
I remember I was probably like sixteen and this director
was like, okay, that was great on the ear piece.
(18:10):
Now cry and it's life. It's happening right now, it's
like the camera is rolling and I'm like, right, okay.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Sure, you have to start right.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
That's why it's like so dramatic, because you have to
bring the emotion like so like.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Oh think about or like where do you dig to
get those tears on the spot.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
I feel like it's the training. I feel like it's
just like the connection. I just have to be really grounded.
If I'm having a day where I'm like having something
outside of like I don't know, my emotional like family
or something is happening, that definitely doesn't help because it's
taking me out of the moment that I am and there,
and that's that's not helpful. But yeah, on on on
(18:54):
on side. You just have to have it ready.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, just go for it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That cries when.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
As yea, I told him that.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
If he's not crying by the time I'm walking down
the aisle, I'm walking back and starting all over, He's.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Going to restart again.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Again.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'm sorry, guys, Yeah about it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Let's do that. Yes, maybe think about a pat that
you lost when you were.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, what do we have?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I hear that works?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I mean, my my other dog passed away a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
There you go sixteen, So.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Tap into tap into that, honestly, that to be honest,
that does not help to me, Like I cannot when
I there's techniques of techniques, and for me that doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Like I can't tap into something of the past because
for me it's in the past. Like I have to
live in the moment. If an emotion is not coming, what.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Do you think of you cheated on or something? What
do you think?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No, I just go to like whatever is happening in
the moment, and like what's frustrating me.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Like kind of like the intensity of like the now
and like so like think about, like what's frustrating about
Jackie When you're.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Matter of fact, I have a whole list. You're gonna
get him in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No that I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
What could help us later on is mushrooms though.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Mushrooms, Yeah, mushrooms, Like what kind of mushrooms you know.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Like mushroom Their mushrooms are different.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, like mushrooms. Are we talking about like special mushroom
like magic mushrooms?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Okay, that's something. Is that something that you and your
fiance are into?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Oh, you're talking about funments like our supplement company.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
For help, not for.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
We're doing that life.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I was like, that's happening here, you know, you forget
you're in l a and you can talk about those Yes, yes, yes,
we have hot Yeah, we're we have a supplement company.
It's called Fungements fung Guise Supplements.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But it's not magic. It's actually it's okay, it's it's other.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Kind of magic because it gives you energy, it helps
you with sleep, it helps me with digestion.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
We started this company because I had a really tough time.
I had a concussion.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It rocked my world three years ago, and I didn't
want to go in the route of medications, and I
started looking for natural alternatives and I found a really
great relief in mushrooms and adaptogens, and I was like,
I really want to share this with the world.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So that's the story behind Fungments.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah. Look, I haven't been to the doctor in like
eight years.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's that's how healthy we are.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Healthy.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
We are are you giving her? Where are you giving him?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I just drink water water. She cooks for him. It's
very good.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yes, that's good. Is your medicine?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Last night?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
She lives.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
That's good, so good. It was just in Mexico City
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh yeah, so you had the real deal. Not that
yours isn't real, you know. I'm saying from the motherland
is different.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah different. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
The ritual in theaters. Yo, watch it everybody. Maria, thank
you very much for your time.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Thanks your talent.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Congratulations, thank you, thank you, thank you for having me
this great pay check, your rich from the Cruse Show.
Thanks for listening to The Cruise Show podcast. To make
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