September 4, 2025 • 29 mins
Cuco stopped by the Cruz Show to talk about his new album, his growth, writing and family. He also talked about Bad Bunny, MC Magic and so much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Real ninety two three Yo Hawthorne is in the building.
Cruise Show. Real ninety two three. Gucko is here. Tell
what you man? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm chilling?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Man have it? Thank you for being here. We appreciate
the time and energy. Bro. Congratulations on riding. It's crazy.
We did it right.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
How long did this take? How long did the project take?
How long was it in the making?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
For you?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know, what's funny like thinking about it and this
better be funny and real. It's actually the obvious, you know,
it's very serious.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think I think maybe from the jump, I've always
had that influence of making soul music. I feel like
people have always kind of heard it and and on
my tracks to some to some degree.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Then I started leaning into like more like the psychedelic music,
because it's kind of what part of my bread and
butter was. But I think end of twenty twenty three
is when I decided. I was like, I think I
want to start making like a like a New New
Soldies kind of kind of record, and.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It gives that vibe.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, was that was this like in celebration of your sobriety?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
No, it's really just it's more just the showcase growth.
I feel like every project this is just is literally
that just showcasing growth. And but yeah, I mean that
was part of the journey though, I guess, you know,
just yeah, just being being in the studio being president
all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, it's a part of growth. Did you bring in
a vocal coach?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You did? Yeah? Was that the first time? Good for you?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah that Hey Kobe needed a coach?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, it's this guy, man Mark Backstreet. He Uh, my
managers put me in touch with him. But this is
like twenty twenty two is when I started working with him,
and he really taught me how to like start controlling
my voice.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But you know, like just as the US kept going by,
I would go back to.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Him when I was doing different things. And yeah, I
think I think a big, a big part of of
what writing was was getting to show people that like
I can't sing, that I could really like lock in
and actually like you know, like pull up with.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like vocal production, right, I got vocals here.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, so yeah, showcasing that growth and I'm excited. I
mean even it's been translating well to like a lot
of live performances that we've been doing, like especially like
stripped down like live performances, but we don't have a
full production. Yeah man, And it's just me and like
two three homies playing and I'm just like singing and
you really hear it, like in the voice.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That live music made a little trumpet, right, yeah for
the vibes. Yeah, yeah, Bro.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Is it interesting to see how fans uh just constantly
comment or send you d ms on like what their
favorite song is and you're like, damn, Like okay, like
is that interesting to see?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know, it's funny. We had a This is actually
funny because it's not well, we can't we can't figure
out what on tour, Like it's so many songs, bro,
Like when I realize it, I actually and it's not
in like a way to like oh I'm too my
own horn, but it's just like actually that there's so
many old tracks for like all my old projects, like
(03:30):
to to Bottom. I go playing and like the people
knowing word for word for word, for word, and there's
a new stuff too that people are also like starting
to enjoy. And it's just tough, bro, like trying to
It's came to a point where, like me personally, like
I'm always down, I'd be down to do like a
three four hour set, right, But that's also kind of od,
(03:51):
that's kind of we.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Gotta go home, bro, that's some real Mexican party ship.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Mexican Goodbye, Mexican goodbye.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It takes two hours to say goodbye. Yeah, And these
songs are gifts, right, So who are we to deprive
the fans of what they really want, what they want
to sing out loud?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, thankfully? I mean the band, I mean, man, all
the boys are really talented, bro. So like sometimes we're
able to just like I hear I'm like, I have
no shame. I'll probably my fun like in the middle
of the stage if we have time, I'll like hear
the songs. I started playing the chords and I'm like
and then and then everybody figures it out super fast, right,
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So we get we're good at improvising.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's good. Is there improv on the tour? Is there
room for improv?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
There might be we have we're gonna have feels.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, we're gonna have songs on the backburn for sure,
like and if you will ask for the right songs
and we're playing. But it's tough already because we're planning
like maybe a hour thirty to like an hour forty five.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
This is a good problem to have though, I mean,
remember we had two songs at one point, right, Yeah,
how do you decide like what the set list is?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I just kind of choose whatever my favorite songs are
out the moment because I have, in a weird way,
I want to be kind of selfish, like I want
to be able to like play songs that I'm gonna
enjoy playing in that moment. I don't dislike playing any
of my songs, but there's some songs I'm just like, yeah,
these are fire, And I think I think people people
feel it too. Like if if I if I'm feeling
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the track and I'm putting like my all into it,
like people can see that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
How often does that constantly change? I feel like with artists,
they are like, okay, like one day it's this song
that's my favorite, and the next day it's this song.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Uh. For me, it happens all the time because I
don't I don't have the same even with just music
I listen to, Like I don't have a set playlist,
like I'm always saying to something from crazy yeah oh
yeah no, especially with the music I'm making and everything
like I'll make I make everything bro Like there's there's
there's really no, there's there's a few lines like I
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won't like I won't cross, But for the most part,
like I just kind of do all all kinds of music.
I'm a big metal head too, so like I listened
to like anything, Like on a given day, I could
be listening as some likes of soul music, but then
the next day I'm just like full blast, like just
listening to some death corps.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's right, a band, right, I was in I was
in a hardcore band actually, and in a hardcore band
that was my first band, and then like a skot
reggae band after that.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh shit, yeah, no way, yeah. How old were you?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Fourteen? Fifteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, a teenager doing it, that's right, better than
being in the streets. Yeah, yo, did you go to
London to record writing?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We did.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We did a few songs, demos, demos, Yeah, we did
walk Away and I.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Can ever break your heart out there in London walk
the way. I have to say, it is probably one
of my favorites. It's crazy right, Yeah, why do you
like it like that?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It just gives that vibe Like I don't know. I
grew up in East la and that when I heard it.
I mean, actually, one of our interns, Jordan, she sent
it to me because we kind of have the same
music taste and she's like, dude, this one's fine. I
was like, okay, So I listened to it right away.
I was like, this just gives me that summer night.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Okay, and then my grandma lives right around the corner.
I could walk and listen to it. By the time
I get there the song is done. I'm like this,
this just.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Feels goods bro, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That song.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, that song is a thousand a thousand percent on
the set list. That was one of those songs where
I felt like I had unlocked something for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, talk to us about Troublemaker.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Trouble Maker went on there. We made a trouble Maker
in Venice.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Actually, I hear, yeah, Italy, I was a dang.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
California work with this producer's name is John Hill, and
a few of the folks in the room. I was
in there with Jane Carter two and yeah, we were
just kind of like trying to write a song where
it's like almost like a movie thing where it's like yo,
like maybe like like show he's like a trouble maker,
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but it kind of just like you're always kind of
taking the blame, feel like her parents, because I was
getting like pissed off of her for like kicking it
with you.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So then that's that's where that I started came.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's real life, right yeah? Yeah right and my forty
five Is that one of your favorites?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh yeah, for sure, Bro.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I mean Jean Gene's want of like my my like
my closest homies like outside.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Like Santa Monica City College, right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, bro, Yeah dude, we met.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We met in college and like outside of just all
the work and the music, like somebody who I just
came with the regular.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
At Santa Monica City College. Were you there with a
plan or were you there to make your parents happy?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
To my parents, No, I do what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I figure it out. Yeah, just trying to figure it out, Like,
all right, let me go here. So I'm going somewhere
throughout the day and let's see how this pans out. Yeah,
I feel like I'm doing something right. But but you
were still making music.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean that's probably when I was.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like really really really like dialing with the music especial
because I would I would have to leave my house
because like I couldn't be in the studio of my
crib because I had to make my parents think that
I was in school. But then I would like ditch
and I just I would have my laptop and I
would like plug the Oxen and I would just be producing,
like in the car and just making stuff and then
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I'll get to my to my house and then start recording.
Remember in college, Yeah, literally, like the first day, the
first day of the school, we had a I think
it was like an English or like a mad class,
and the teacher basically like it was like, oh, you
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gotta partner up with somebody, and then the partner's gonna
tell the class what their partner likes to do.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Those icebreakers, yeah, meeting each other.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, it was him, and also met the homie Juice
that day too, And like those are just Yeah, it was.
It was sick man, were all we were all just
connected through like music.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Do you have that like that thought one day I'll
go back to school, fought not eventually phase. If you
do have that thought, I have.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, I have thought about it in the sense of
I want to learn more more languages, Bro, I want
to learn more languages.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But yeah, that'd be dope, But you don't have necessarily
go to school for that, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I just I just realized, Yeah it with some things
like that I have, I have to have like somebody
like kind of like on me. Yeah, like when I
when I I guess things I like to do, like
that I that I know how to do, like skating,
I go do by myself and like I'll push myself.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But like wait, training for instance, I need a trainer, Bro.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
When you're there flying solo dogre, it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I got and that's the thing I got. Jumping Jack
Yeah no, and that's the thing I got good for him.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But if I do it by myself, I will just
be like cool, I got a pump and that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I listen to David Goggins talk all I'm doing real
what languages are on the list.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Italian is one of them because my dad speaks fluent Italian. Okay,
he's not Italian, he just he just knows. When he
came to the US, I think he's just like started
picking that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Up, picked it up.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But my dad like, did you work at an Italian restaurant? No?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He just he's picked up I picked it up. I
really want to learn. I think like Japanese will be
sick too, Japanese. I love going to Japan, bro, Like,
that's just one of my favorite places.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Man. Jackie wants to live there.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I do want to live there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I know Japanese, can you?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, Japanese right now?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Mother, I means Japanese.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, so what I means.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I only speak a little bit of Japanese, but I
took four years of it in high school and then
I have a sealed by later seeing it. So that's
the reason I want to move there. I just want
to fire, peace out and.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Just like when you're out there, if you know Japanese,
that chea could bro, because being out there is fire fire.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You've been out there, then yeah, man, there's seven elevens
are different. Have you seen him on well? I've seen
him on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Dog. My favorite thing is they got this little little
spicy fried chicken things.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, crazy like that happens so good, bro.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, you just have talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It like it's the dog on Christmas morning.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Bro, I realized I was doing that like.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You talked about it like it's.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
They got They got a like microwavable curry too. Yeah,
like package bro coffee too, brother, like the little ice
creams they got their snacks.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Bro, Like mm hmmm, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Good Asian girls. Are you into that?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I under screwing it man for you.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Is it true that your cat is more chaotic than
your dog?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah? Yes, yes you heard.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Your cat is jumping off the walls. Man.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Bro, he's nuts. He's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Bro, He's he's funny though because he he is like
a dog though, because like he'll come he'll come up
seeing and say what so like he because my dog
pretty much raised him, Like yeah somebody, yeah, so you.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Know how like my dog raised my cat.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah you know how like cats like low fuck and
dogs like stretch out when they're like laying down.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
My cat would just be like, oh so he.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Took on the dog's characteristic.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, and then he'll come up with some they were
hanging tough. Yeah, bro, you know they're their homies, their homies.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's like when you get like raised by wolves, you
know what I mean, just become one bro. Yeah, Bro,
that's insane. What's your cat's name?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Obi?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Obi? How long have you had this cat?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Two years?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Two years? Do you bring your pets into the studio.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I've taken my dog to the studio sometimes I want
to start like training him to take him on tour.
But but he's also my parents just take care of
him when when I'm away, and like, dude, like he's
just spoiled.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Bro. He kind of likes me with my fans.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Does eat table food.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I don't let him. My mom My mom doesn't
let My mom doesn't let him either, but my dad yeah, bro.
So that so then I come back and I have
my dog disciplined, I'd be like, all right, ship, all right.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Then I come back and my dog is just like
not listening to me. I tell my dad, like, what
do you do?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
He's like, he's you can't be mean to him, you
can't like, why are you being mean?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I'm not even being mean. I'm just telling this way
for his food like, what's his name? Leo, Leo?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Tell me why that happened? This weekend, my dad was barbecuing.
He had my dog a bay old piece of chicken.
I was like, bro, and he just started following him around.
Anytime I called my dog, you won't come back to me.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What happens now? For sure?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
What does that song mean to you? How is it personal?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I don's personal? I mean can't, I mean probably is.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I don't think about a person. Whenever I'm writing music,
I probably maybe think about like what I want to convey.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It could maybe it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Could be personal tho subconsciously, but yeah, it's real poetic.
I think it talks about kind of like like being
like in love, re infatuated with somebody that's clearly not
doing you any good. That's why it's like do it
like on Saturday, because you know, socidey, you got to
just try to tough it out.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Trying to be with somebody. But then it just because
at the point where like.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Like yeah, okay, yeah, I gave it all I could here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Also, just it's a way for me to show off
my my Spanish pin that's right.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, like doing that with the deluxe version as well, right, yeah,
September twelfth is dropping ye deluxe versions. More Spanish in there,
more Spanish in there fully, right, like like we're going in.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah yeah, your first time writing and singing in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, I've had.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I've had a lot of a lot of Spanish in
the past. Like the SA was like one of my
biggest songs. Like the fans of that one look at
Santos like in Spanglish.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I cover up.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I went crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It went crazy, like I think like a year or
two after I put it out too. It wasn't even
like it came out and like going viral. It just
out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You've gone Bible a few times?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Oh under the sun, that's right?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Bro. I was talking to mc magic yesterday. I was
texting him and he was like, Yo, that's my guy.
Is talented and I love him.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's that's oh g bro, man that you even.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Got a makeup line.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Man's almost sixty years old. Bro, God bless him. He's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He doesn't look it. Bro, he doesn't love you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I look older than him. Man's ship. But it's all good.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
That fund has made some bangers. I love you. What
come on bro.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yo, those are like dedication classics right there, right, Yeah, Bro,
what he's done is crazy, bro, God bless him man.
And independent too.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, that's a blessing to be able to make it independent.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You performed that camalog in twenty twenty three, yeah, bro.
And to see what Tyler's done, especially being from Hawthorne, right,
that's got to be I mean you got to fill
up with pride when you see that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, Bro, I mean it's always sick seeing that, Like
I think, I think, outside of being from the same city,
just seeing like like Tyler just be such a like
creative person the way he is is cool.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's just it's just like I'm I'm always a fan
of people's music, bro. Like, if I'm a fan of
like the stuff that you do, I'm never gonna have
a shame of like being a fan. Like I'm a
big music fan, bro. Like I can like I go
to shows and buy my own tickets to like go
see something or like. Also, thankfully because of being industry, like,
I'm able to put in requests and be like I
just want to go see this, Like I'm not triving
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about like, yo, I gotta meet this. I'm just like
I like the music, I want to go, Yeah, I
want to go hear it. So it's cool and as
I also as like somebody who like like I've designed
like a lot of clothes, and I've done like a
lot of visual stuff. I do photography, like I have
so many like outlets of art. It's just it's just
nice to kind of like know that like being kind
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of multifaceted like that is uh, it's something that could
be very like alive nowadays.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What was the last one? So you went to last concert?
I went to Bro. Noah, I wasn't able to go.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Mister to Neil.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No, that was that.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I don't know what happened. What was that?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Three three sold down nights at the Forum? Yeah, it's
like three three nights of the Forum right with the
Sacred Souls to.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
The last show? I went to Bro. And I know
this too, like I know what the last show?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well you were there, no, I know? Now I want
to know.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Oh, Bro, I saw two weeks ago in perto Rico.
But at the Bunny show, Wow saw.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Right, Yeah in Puerto Rico. That's different.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Nuts, big shot of Scott buttoning Man, he's the one
who invited me out there and was bro, like last
minute was like it was Thursday.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It was when like the night of Wednesday. He was
like he's like, oh, fly in and like you got
tickets with us? So when I got I bought the
tickets for like Friday midnight. Okay, got their Friday morning.
The show was on Friday. Dipped out at like five.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Invited and still about tickets. No, Okay, what kind of
friend is Scott?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Scott hooked it up, broot tickets but we got five. No, Scott,
take care of us, Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
He got He really made sure we were sorted out
and everything, and like, Bro, it was sick.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
We were just talking about that because my man is
trying to get tickets. Yeah next week.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Just Scott, how how is that like energy over there?
Seeing how people fly there or people just like that
are there just go and seeing.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Word for level man people flying in.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
But I mean it's just it's just a vibe already
because is like it's one of my favorite plays in
this planet.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I went for the first time this year, like just
before the Bunny of Stuff. Bro, it's one of the
best and I'm a big road tripper, So I just
got a car and I travel by myself, so I did.
I just drove to the island by myself and like
I was just looking at it. Yeah, good for you, man,
And bro, it's it's just like a crazy, crazy, crazy
place to be and it's real refreshing. Like but then
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you have seen like a show there and for somebody
who's from the island and seeing like like his own
people like really really go crazy was a super different experience. Bro,
It's honestly like it's very cultural too.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, it's inspiring, right, yeah, like I need this.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Hell yeah, are you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Competitive in that way? Like, man, this is.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Competitive with myself.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I feel that's it. Like I just I don't really
I have my love for music and the artist I like.
Outside of that, bro, I have no idea what's happening.
Like I'm in my own bubble.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I'm just like looking yourself crazy man.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, and then I'm just like cool, I gotta just
do better next time, keep us better the next time.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
After and I said, what.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Was the inspiration behind don't be so rude?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That'll be so rude? Oh yo, we wrote that one
in London too.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yes, wrote down in London with that in it. And
and homegos Snai and just.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
The writing session.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, super super super dope people, bro incredible people. And
it's almost like I feel like it's halfway like to
like almost like a halfway to like the halfway point
of making like a radio song because it feels a
little like like.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Beachy, like tropical but.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Great flow.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, it's about it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
It's kind of like that sounds like like yo, like
you want to say it, like do you do you
love me? Like yeah, you say it, And it's just
kind of being somebody just being like an to you
and just being like they're not saying it, and it's
like cool, like so we just feel in this and
like we're not gonna say anything.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
How does that get created with a group of people
or you are you? Is everyone exchanging stories or certain
antidotes and then kind of putting it to paper?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I think I think more so like it becomes a
bit of a like a like a skit. Sometimes when
you're writing, you're like all right, but you know when
like maybe somebody's trying to do this, but then like
sometimes they'll explode into something like super stupid or realistic.
I'm like all right, cool, like let's let's let's let's stick.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
To that, right, right, right, you're writing a piece.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, it's like a like damn near a movie.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah yeah, and you have characters in mind, and you're
thinking about responses and certain things are going to trigger
people maybe, right, or at least tap people a certain way. Yeah, exactly,
thinking of the visuals as you're writing the song.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't think I fool blown half synesthesia, but for sure,
like every time I hear like a song or something
like that, or ay, I can always kind of envision
like a music video or sometimes even not even a
music video, sometimes even just like visuals because I do
a lot of like I do a lot of video
synthesis on like analog stuff, so I think about like patterns.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think people who have that synthesesia, I think I
said that right. Oh no, but they're just different. They're
literally like different.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's just the way that they create.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And you, like, as a creative yourself like already kind
of having that without like like you said, fully having it. Yeah,
just it's it creates the process much more. I guess
it makes it easier, but also it challenges you too.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Now, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
In the Pandemic, we booked out a studio i'll say
for like nine months, and in that time I was
working with like a bunch of different producers and I
work with this guy remotely because he was out in
like Europe, and he like made a beat whatever since
it over and then when I sent over the song
to him, we just like named to Orange for some reason.
(24:01):
I forgot why, and he did the responses like, bros,
so weird. He's like because the whole because he I
think he had like actual syns season. He was like, Bro,
every time, like the beat I was making, I kept
seeing Orange.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
The whole time.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I was like, that's so crazy, bro.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It was yeah, Bro, do you ever think about writing
music while you're bouldering?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, I'm thinking about just not breaking the bone again.
Yeah I'm breaking yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Right, No, man, shout out bolder.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Shout out to the Boulder community. Big shout out to
the community. Really boldering is one of the coolest things
on this planet.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That's insane. That's crazy. You do it indoors, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I want to go outdoors eventually. I have like matts
and everything. But I was supposed to do. Probably like
that week I was planning a trip with my friend,
and then that that week that we're planning, like, broke
my leg. But I'm I'm slowly starting to try to
get back into it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
How often are we tired?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I take the summers off because I like getting into
the beach.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
That's right, that's right, that's right, hurt.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Right, Yeah, but the yeah, winter starting, tour starting, so
it's probably gonna get start picking up.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah. Do you get a tattoo to celebrate each project?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I just get tattoos.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, I've never really gotten a tatooed to sever anything.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Are you when you travel? Are you the I'm getting
a tattoo wherever I go? Or you get them out here?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I tried, but bro I.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Maybe when I was like eighteen, nineteen twenty, maybe they
just hurt less. But test, it's just hurting now more
like they're way more now. I'm just I'm just seeing.
I'm like, I don't know why I'm doing this anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
How are they hurting more? Though? Are they? Is it
the the needle is it different or.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I don't know, Man, it just hurts one now it's
get older.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, I'm also burning out of space that like doesn't hurt,
like if I get, if I get, I added, like
the arms are pretty much out of the question.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I gotta get like the ribs or like your face
not my face, face face.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I like, I like my face in it to like
not not touch it everything around like I'll probably in
the next few years years.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You still have some faces on your neck.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So yeah, I want to feel it. I gotta get
my filler.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
But yeah, that stuff sounding heard, man, But I'm gonna
do it because that's just like.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, because we don't given we do. We're doing this. Man.
You're you're a car guy as well. Yeah, how many
cars do you have? Are you collecting cars? Like crazy?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Not like crazy? I have five?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Five yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, that's four more than the average classic cars.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, I have I have three classic. When I say classic,
they're not older than like eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
When you make riding, do you do you listen to
it in the car windows down? Just driving?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
If they're drivable?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, if they're drivable, yeah, bro, because like the problem
with having old cars that there's always something wrong with them.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Like nah, that's a fact, that's the fact.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And I just got a long dog I just got
my Montto fixed and then I started driving, and then
they're like, I was like.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
We all know that sounds. We all know that sound
growing up. You know, we know that the PTSD rightw
for sure. Comedian Ralph Barbosa was like, I have three trucks.
One of them runs. It's crazy, wild, bro.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
No I have I have, thankfully I got. I got
like two newer cars that are like kind of like
ones like my work car, and the one is my
like daily m hmm to go skate, So like those
are my my relible ones.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
They got to be new, bro, because I'm like I can't.
I can't be daiing it like like an old no car, bro, No.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Because then you're gonna have to put water in it,
you have to pull over somewhere. It's just crazy on
the road right now.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well that's the thing that if also if you daily it,
you're keeping it healthier. So by dailing it, like you're
lowkey making your car more reliable. But I just I
just don't have it in me to like swapping out
cars every day and like or just daily like an
old car too. Like I like to I like to
have my new soundces. I like, I love really smooth,
(28:21):
power sting. If I'm going to drive it every day,
I can't be like, got to be reliable. Yeah, I
love driving stick, but man, sometimes in traffic, traffic, it
just gets It's not hard, it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's like, yeah, it's not hard to drive. Pause. No,
I'm just saying it's got. It seems so tough for me.
I don't know, and I don't want to learn because
I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You gotta get you gotta get the car and thence
like like you're like a beater bro. You can probably
find a car flight five hundred and now you just
got to drive it and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, that's how I learned how to drive. I was
twelve years old. My dad threw me on the freeway.
Dog here, figure it out. That's how we learned how
to swim, how we how to drive all of that. Google,
let's go man. He's performing September fifteenth at the Greek
Theater the Riding Tour. There will be merch as well.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, yes, sir, let's.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Get it man, and Riding is out now everywhere. The
Deluxe version is dropping September twelfth. Google Thank you very
much for stopping by. Appreciate you, Appreciate you. Let's get
it Yeah, hopped on Cruise Show Real ninety two three.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Hey Jack your rich for the Cruise Show. Thanks for
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Real ninety two three Yo Hawthorne is in the building.
Cruise Show. Real ninety two three. Gucko is here. Tell
what you man? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm chilling?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Man have it? Thank you for being here. We appreciate
the time and energy. Bro. Congratulations on riding. It's crazy.
We did it right.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
How long did this take? How long did the project take?
How long was it in the making?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
For you?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know, what's funny like thinking about it and this
better be funny and real. It's actually the obvious, you know,
it's very serious.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think I think maybe from the jump, I've always
had that influence of making soul music. I feel like
people have always kind of heard it and and on
my tracks to some to some degree.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Then I started leaning into like more like the psychedelic music,
because it's kind of what part of my bread and
butter was. But I think end of twenty twenty three
is when I decided. I was like, I think I
want to start making like a like a New New
Soldies kind of kind of record, and.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It gives that vibe.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, was that was this like in celebration of your sobriety?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
No, it's really just it's more just the showcase growth.
I feel like every project this is just is literally
that just showcasing growth. And but yeah, I mean that
was part of the journey though, I guess, you know,
just yeah, just being being in the studio being president
all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, it's a part of growth. Did you bring in
a vocal coach?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You did? Yeah? Was that the first time? Good for you?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah that Hey Kobe needed a coach?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, it's this guy, man Mark Backstreet. He Uh, my
managers put me in touch with him. But this is
like twenty twenty two is when I started working with him,
and he really taught me how to like start controlling
my voice.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But you know, like just as the US kept going by,
I would go back to.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Him when I was doing different things. And yeah, I
think I think a big, a big part of of
what writing was was getting to show people that like
I can't sing, that I could really like lock in
and actually like you know, like pull up with.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like vocal production, right, I got vocals here.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, so yeah, showcasing that growth and I'm excited. I
mean even it's been translating well to like a lot
of live performances that we've been doing, like especially like
stripped down like live performances, but we don't have a
full production. Yeah man, And it's just me and like
two three homies playing and I'm just like singing and
you really hear it, like in the voice.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That live music made a little trumpet, right, yeah for
the vibes. Yeah, yeah, Bro.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Is it interesting to see how fans uh just constantly
comment or send you d ms on like what their
favorite song is and you're like, damn, Like okay, like
is that interesting to see?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know, it's funny. We had a This is actually
funny because it's not well, we can't we can't figure
out what on tour, Like it's so many songs, bro,
Like when I realize it, I actually and it's not
in like a way to like oh I'm too my
own horn, but it's just like actually that there's so
many old tracks for like all my old projects, like
(03:30):
to to Bottom. I go playing and like the people
knowing word for word for word, for word, and there's
a new stuff too that people are also like starting
to enjoy. And it's just tough, bro, like trying to
It's came to a point where, like me personally, like
I'm always down, I'd be down to do like a
three four hour set, right, But that's also kind of od,
(03:51):
that's kind of we.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Gotta go home, bro, that's some real Mexican party ship.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Mexican Goodbye, Mexican goodbye.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It takes two hours to say goodbye. Yeah, And these
songs are gifts, right, So who are we to deprive
the fans of what they really want, what they want
to sing out loud?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, thankfully? I mean the band, I mean, man, all
the boys are really talented, bro. So like sometimes we're
able to just like I hear I'm like, I have
no shame. I'll probably my fun like in the middle
of the stage if we have time, I'll like hear
the songs. I started playing the chords and I'm like
and then and then everybody figures it out super fast, right,
(04:28):
So we get we're good at improvising.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's good. Is there improv on the tour? Is there
room for improv?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
There might be we have we're gonna have feels.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, we're gonna have songs on the backburn for sure,
like and if you will ask for the right songs
and we're playing. But it's tough already because we're planning
like maybe a hour thirty to like an hour forty five.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
This is a good problem to have though, I mean,
remember we had two songs at one point, right, Yeah,
how do you decide like what the set list is?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I just kind of choose whatever my favorite songs are
out the moment because I have, in a weird way,
I want to be kind of selfish, like I want
to be able to like play songs that I'm gonna
enjoy playing in that moment. I don't dislike playing any
of my songs, but there's some songs I'm just like, yeah,
these are fire, And I think I think people people
feel it too. Like if if I if I'm feeling
(05:22):
the track and I'm putting like my all into it,
like people can see that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
How often does that constantly change? I feel like with artists,
they are like, okay, like one day it's this song
that's my favorite, and the next day it's this song.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Uh. For me, it happens all the time because I
don't I don't have the same even with just music
I listen to, Like I don't have a set playlist,
like I'm always saying to something from crazy yeah oh
yeah no, especially with the music I'm making and everything
like I'll make I make everything bro Like there's there's
there's really no, there's there's a few lines like I
(05:54):
won't like I won't cross, But for the most part,
like I just kind of do all all kinds of music.
I'm a big metal head too, so like I listened
to like anything, Like on a given day, I could
be listening as some likes of soul music, but then
the next day I'm just like full blast, like just
listening to some death corps.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's right, a band, right, I was in I was
in a hardcore band actually, and in a hardcore band
that was my first band, and then like a skot
reggae band after that.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh shit, yeah, no way, yeah. How old were you?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Fourteen? Fifteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, a teenager doing it, that's right, better than
being in the streets. Yeah, yo, did you go to
London to record writing?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We did.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We did a few songs, demos, demos, Yeah, we did
walk Away and I.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Can ever break your heart out there in London walk
the way. I have to say, it is probably one
of my favorites. It's crazy right, Yeah, why do you
like it like that?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It just gives that vibe Like I don't know. I
grew up in East la and that when I heard it.
I mean, actually, one of our interns, Jordan, she sent
it to me because we kind of have the same
music taste and she's like, dude, this one's fine. I
was like, okay, So I listened to it right away.
I was like, this just gives me that summer night.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Okay, and then my grandma lives right around the corner.
I could walk and listen to it. By the time
I get there the song is done. I'm like this,
this just.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Feels goods bro, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That song.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, that song is a thousand a thousand percent on
the set list. That was one of those songs where
I felt like I had unlocked something for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, talk to us about Troublemaker.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Trouble Maker went on there. We made a trouble Maker
in Venice.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Actually, I hear, yeah, Italy, I was a dang.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
California work with this producer's name is John Hill, and
a few of the folks in the room. I was
in there with Jane Carter two and yeah, we were
just kind of like trying to write a song where
it's like almost like a movie thing where it's like yo,
like maybe like like show he's like a trouble maker,
(07:59):
but it kind of just like you're always kind of
taking the blame, feel like her parents, because I was
getting like pissed off of her for like kicking it
with you.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So then that's that's where that I started came.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's real life, right yeah? Yeah right and my forty
five Is that one of your favorites?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh yeah, for sure, Bro.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I mean Jean Gene's want of like my my like
my closest homies like outside.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Like Santa Monica City College, right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, bro, Yeah dude, we met.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We met in college and like outside of just all
the work and the music, like somebody who I just
came with the regular.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
At Santa Monica City College. Were you there with a
plan or were you there to make your parents happy?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
To my parents, No, I do what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I figure it out. Yeah, just trying to figure it out, Like,
all right, let me go here. So I'm going somewhere
throughout the day and let's see how this pans out. Yeah,
I feel like I'm doing something right. But but you
were still making music.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean that's probably when I was.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like really really really like dialing with the music especial
because I would I would have to leave my house
because like I couldn't be in the studio of my
crib because I had to make my parents think that
I was in school. But then I would like ditch
and I just I would have my laptop and I
would like plug the Oxen and I would just be producing,
like in the car and just making stuff and then
(09:16):
I'll get to my to my house and then start recording.
Remember in college, Yeah, literally, like the first day, the
first day of the school, we had a I think
it was like an English or like a mad class,
and the teacher basically like it was like, oh, you
(09:36):
gotta partner up with somebody, and then the partner's gonna
tell the class what their partner likes to do.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Those icebreakers, yeah, meeting each other.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, it was him, and also met the homie Juice
that day too, And like those are just Yeah, it was.
It was sick man, were all we were all just
connected through like music.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Do you have that like that thought one day I'll
go back to school, fought not eventually phase. If you
do have that thought, I have.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, I have thought about it in the sense of
I want to learn more more languages, Bro, I want
to learn more languages.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But yeah, that'd be dope, But you don't have necessarily
go to school for that, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I just I just realized, Yeah it with some things
like that I have, I have to have like somebody
like kind of like on me. Yeah, like when I
when I I guess things I like to do, like
that I that I know how to do, like skating,
I go do by myself and like I'll push myself.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But like wait, training for instance, I need a trainer, Bro.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
When you're there flying solo dogre, it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I got and that's the thing I got. Jumping Jack
Yeah no, and that's the thing I got good for him.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But if I do it by myself, I will just
be like cool, I got a pump and that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I listen to David Goggins talk all I'm doing real
what languages are on the list.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Italian is one of them because my dad speaks fluent Italian. Okay,
he's not Italian, he just he just knows. When he
came to the US, I think he's just like started
picking that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Up, picked it up.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But my dad like, did you work at an Italian restaurant? No?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He just he's picked up I picked it up. I
really want to learn. I think like Japanese will be
sick too, Japanese. I love going to Japan, bro, Like,
that's just one of my favorite places.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Man. Jackie wants to live there.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I do want to live there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I know Japanese, can you?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, Japanese right now?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Mother, I means Japanese.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, so what I means.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I only speak a little bit of Japanese, but I
took four years of it in high school and then
I have a sealed by later seeing it. So that's
the reason I want to move there. I just want
to fire, peace out and.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Just like when you're out there, if you know Japanese,
that chea could bro, because being out there is fire fire.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You've been out there, then yeah, man, there's seven elevens
are different. Have you seen him on well? I've seen
him on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Dog. My favorite thing is they got this little little
spicy fried chicken things.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, crazy like that happens so good, bro.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, you just have talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It like it's the dog on Christmas morning.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Bro, I realized I was doing that like.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You talked about it like it's.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
They got They got a like microwavable curry too. Yeah,
like package bro coffee too, brother, like the little ice
creams they got their snacks.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Bro, Like mm hmmm, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Good Asian girls. Are you into that?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I under screwing it man for you.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Is it true that your cat is more chaotic than
your dog?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah? Yes, yes you heard.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Your cat is jumping off the walls. Man.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Bro, he's nuts. He's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Bro, He's he's funny though because he he is like
a dog though, because like he'll come he'll come up
seeing and say what so like he because my dog
pretty much raised him, Like yeah somebody, yeah, so you.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Know how like my dog raised my cat.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah you know how like cats like low fuck and
dogs like stretch out when they're like laying down.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
My cat would just be like, oh so he.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Took on the dog's characteristic.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, and then he'll come up with some they were
hanging tough. Yeah, bro, you know they're their homies, their homies.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's like when you get like raised by wolves, you
know what I mean, just become one bro. Yeah, Bro,
that's insane. What's your cat's name?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Obi?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Obi? How long have you had this cat?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Two years?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Two years? Do you bring your pets into the studio.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I've taken my dog to the studio sometimes I want
to start like training him to take him on tour.
But but he's also my parents just take care of
him when when I'm away, and like, dude, like he's
just spoiled.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Bro. He kind of likes me with my fans.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Does eat table food.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I don't let him. My mom My mom doesn't
let My mom doesn't let him either, but my dad yeah, bro.
So that so then I come back and I have
my dog disciplined, I'd be like, all right, ship, all right.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Then I come back and my dog is just like
not listening to me. I tell my dad, like, what
do you do?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
He's like, he's you can't be mean to him, you
can't like, why are you being mean?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I'm not even being mean. I'm just telling this way
for his food like, what's his name? Leo, Leo?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Tell me why that happened? This weekend, my dad was barbecuing.
He had my dog a bay old piece of chicken.
I was like, bro, and he just started following him around.
Anytime I called my dog, you won't come back to me.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What happens now? For sure?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
What does that song mean to you? How is it personal?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I don's personal? I mean can't, I mean probably is.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I don't think about a person. Whenever I'm writing music,
I probably maybe think about like what I want to convey.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It could maybe it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Could be personal tho subconsciously, but yeah, it's real poetic.
I think it talks about kind of like like being
like in love, re infatuated with somebody that's clearly not
doing you any good. That's why it's like do it
like on Saturday, because you know, socidey, you got to
just try to tough it out.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Trying to be with somebody. But then it just because
at the point where like.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Like yeah, okay, yeah, I gave it all I could here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Also, just it's a way for me to show off
my my Spanish pin that's right.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, like doing that with the deluxe version as well, right, yeah,
September twelfth is dropping ye deluxe versions. More Spanish in there,
more Spanish in there fully, right, like like we're going in.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah yeah, your first time writing and singing in Spanish.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, I've had.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I've had a lot of a lot of Spanish in
the past. Like the SA was like one of my
biggest songs. Like the fans of that one look at
Santos like in Spanglish.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I cover up.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I went crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It went crazy, like I think like a year or
two after I put it out too. It wasn't even
like it came out and like going viral. It just
out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You've gone Bible a few times?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Oh under the sun, that's right?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Bro. I was talking to mc magic yesterday. I was
texting him and he was like, Yo, that's my guy.
Is talented and I love him.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's that's oh g bro, man that you even.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Got a makeup line.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Man's almost sixty years old. Bro, God bless him. He's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He doesn't look it. Bro, he doesn't love you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I look older than him. Man's ship. But it's all good.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
That fund has made some bangers. I love you. What
come on bro.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yo, those are like dedication classics right there, right, Yeah, Bro,
what he's done is crazy, bro, God bless him man.
And independent too.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, that's a blessing to be able to make it independent.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You performed that camalog in twenty twenty three, yeah, bro.
And to see what Tyler's done, especially being from Hawthorne, right,
that's got to be I mean you got to fill
up with pride when you see that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, Bro, I mean it's always sick seeing that, Like
I think, I think, outside of being from the same city,
just seeing like like Tyler just be such a like
creative person the way he is is cool.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's just it's just like I'm I'm always a fan
of people's music, bro. Like, if I'm a fan of
like the stuff that you do, I'm never gonna have
a shame of like being a fan. Like I'm a
big music fan, bro. Like I can like I go
to shows and buy my own tickets to like go
see something or like. Also, thankfully because of being industry, like,
I'm able to put in requests and be like I
just want to go see this, Like I'm not triving
(17:31):
about like, yo, I gotta meet this. I'm just like
I like the music, I want to go, Yeah, I
want to go hear it. So it's cool and as
I also as like somebody who like like I've designed
like a lot of clothes, and I've done like a
lot of visual stuff. I do photography, like I have
so many like outlets of art. It's just it's just
nice to kind of like know that like being kind
(17:51):
of multifaceted like that is uh, it's something that could
be very like alive nowadays.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What was the last one? So you went to last concert?
I went to Bro. Noah, I wasn't able to go.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Mister to Neil.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No, that was that.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I don't know what happened. What was that?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Three three sold down nights at the Forum? Yeah, it's
like three three nights of the Forum right with the
Sacred Souls to.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
The last show? I went to Bro. And I know
this too, like I know what the last show?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well you were there, no, I know? Now I want
to know.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Oh, Bro, I saw two weeks ago in perto Rico.
But at the Bunny show, Wow saw.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Right, Yeah in Puerto Rico. That's different.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Nuts, big shot of Scott buttoning Man, he's the one
who invited me out there and was bro, like last
minute was like it was Thursday.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It was when like the night of Wednesday. He was
like he's like, oh, fly in and like you got
tickets with us? So when I got I bought the
tickets for like Friday midnight. Okay, got their Friday morning.
The show was on Friday. Dipped out at like five.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Invited and still about tickets. No, Okay, what kind of
friend is Scott?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Scott hooked it up, broot tickets but we got five. No, Scott,
take care of us, Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
He got He really made sure we were sorted out
and everything, and like, Bro, it was sick.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
We were just talking about that because my man is
trying to get tickets. Yeah next week.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Just Scott, how how is that like energy over there?
Seeing how people fly there or people just like that
are there just go and seeing.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Word for level man people flying in.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
But I mean it's just it's just a vibe already
because is like it's one of my favorite plays in
this planet.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I went for the first time this year, like just
before the Bunny of Stuff. Bro, it's one of the
best and I'm a big road tripper, So I just
got a car and I travel by myself, so I did.
I just drove to the island by myself and like
I was just looking at it. Yeah, good for you, man,
And bro, it's it's just like a crazy, crazy, crazy
place to be and it's real refreshing. Like but then
(20:20):
you have seen like a show there and for somebody
who's from the island and seeing like like his own
people like really really go crazy was a super different experience. Bro,
It's honestly like it's very cultural too.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, it's inspiring, right, yeah, like I need this.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Hell yeah, are you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Competitive in that way? Like, man, this is.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Competitive with myself.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I feel that's it. Like I just I don't really
I have my love for music and the artist I like.
Outside of that, bro, I have no idea what's happening.
Like I'm in my own bubble.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I'm just like looking yourself crazy man.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, and then I'm just like cool, I gotta just
do better next time, keep us better the next time.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
After and I said, what.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Was the inspiration behind don't be so rude?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That'll be so rude? Oh yo, we wrote that one
in London too.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yes, wrote down in London with that in it. And
and homegos Snai and just.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
The writing session.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, super super super dope people, bro incredible people. And
it's almost like I feel like it's halfway like to
like almost like a halfway to like the halfway point
of making like a radio song because it feels a
little like like.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Beachy, like tropical but.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Great flow.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, it's about it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
It's kind of like that sounds like like yo, like
you want to say it, like do you do you
love me? Like yeah, you say it, And it's just
kind of being somebody just being like an to you
and just being like they're not saying it, and it's
like cool, like so we just feel in this and
like we're not gonna say anything.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
How does that get created with a group of people
or you are you? Is everyone exchanging stories or certain
antidotes and then kind of putting it to paper?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I think I think more so like it becomes a
bit of a like a like a skit. Sometimes when
you're writing, you're like all right, but you know when
like maybe somebody's trying to do this, but then like
sometimes they'll explode into something like super stupid or realistic.
I'm like all right, cool, like let's let's let's let's stick.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
To that, right, right, right, you're writing a piece.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, it's like a like damn near a movie.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah yeah, and you have characters in mind, and you're
thinking about responses and certain things are going to trigger
people maybe, right, or at least tap people a certain way. Yeah, exactly,
thinking of the visuals as you're writing the song.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't think I fool blown half synesthesia, but for sure,
like every time I hear like a song or something
like that, or ay, I can always kind of envision
like a music video or sometimes even not even a
music video, sometimes even just like visuals because I do
a lot of like I do a lot of video
synthesis on like analog stuff, so I think about like patterns.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think people who have that synthesesia, I think I
said that right. Oh no, but they're just different. They're
literally like different.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's just the way that they create.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And you, like, as a creative yourself like already kind
of having that without like like you said, fully having it. Yeah,
just it's it creates the process much more. I guess
it makes it easier, but also it challenges you too.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Now, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
In the Pandemic, we booked out a studio i'll say
for like nine months, and in that time I was
working with like a bunch of different producers and I
work with this guy remotely because he was out in
like Europe, and he like made a beat whatever since
it over and then when I sent over the song
to him, we just like named to Orange for some reason.
(24:01):
I forgot why, and he did the responses like, bros,
so weird. He's like because the whole because he I
think he had like actual syns season. He was like, Bro,
every time, like the beat I was making, I kept
seeing Orange.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
The whole time.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I was like, that's so crazy, bro.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It was yeah, Bro, do you ever think about writing
music while you're bouldering?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, I'm thinking about just not breaking the bone again.
Yeah I'm breaking yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Right, No, man, shout out bolder.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Shout out to the Boulder community. Big shout out to
the community. Really boldering is one of the coolest things
on this planet.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That's insane. That's crazy. You do it indoors, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I want to go outdoors eventually. I have like matts
and everything. But I was supposed to do. Probably like
that week I was planning a trip with my friend,
and then that that week that we're planning, like, broke
my leg. But I'm I'm slowly starting to try to
get back into it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
How often are we tired?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I take the summers off because I like getting into
the beach.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
That's right, that's right, that's right, hurt.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Right, Yeah, but the yeah, winter starting, tour starting, so
it's probably gonna get start picking up.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah. Do you get a tattoo to celebrate each project?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I just get tattoos.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, I've never really gotten a tatooed to sever anything.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Are you when you travel? Are you the I'm getting
a tattoo wherever I go? Or you get them out here?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I tried, but bro I.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Maybe when I was like eighteen, nineteen twenty, maybe they
just hurt less. But test, it's just hurting now more
like they're way more now. I'm just I'm just seeing.
I'm like, I don't know why I'm doing this anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
How are they hurting more? Though? Are they? Is it
the the needle is it different or.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I don't know, Man, it just hurts one now it's
get older.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, I'm also burning out of space that like doesn't hurt,
like if I get, if I get, I added, like
the arms are pretty much out of the question.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I gotta get like the ribs or like your face
not my face, face face.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I like, I like my face in it to like
not not touch it everything around like I'll probably in
the next few years years.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You still have some faces on your neck.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So yeah, I want to feel it. I gotta get
my filler.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
But yeah, that stuff sounding heard, man, But I'm gonna
do it because that's just like.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, because we don't given we do. We're doing this. Man.
You're you're a car guy as well. Yeah, how many
cars do you have? Are you collecting cars? Like crazy?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Not like crazy? I have five?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Five yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, that's four more than the average classic cars.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, I have I have three classic. When I say classic,
they're not older than like eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
When you make riding, do you do you listen to
it in the car windows down? Just driving?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
If they're drivable?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, if they're drivable, yeah, bro, because like the problem
with having old cars that there's always something wrong with them.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Like nah, that's a fact, that's the fact.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And I just got a long dog I just got
my Montto fixed and then I started driving, and then
they're like, I was like.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
We all know that sounds. We all know that sound
growing up. You know, we know that the PTSD rightw
for sure. Comedian Ralph Barbosa was like, I have three trucks.
One of them runs. It's crazy, wild, bro.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
No I have I have, thankfully I got. I got
like two newer cars that are like kind of like
ones like my work car, and the one is my
like daily m hmm to go skate, So like those
are my my relible ones.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
They got to be new, bro, because I'm like I can't.
I can't be daiing it like like an old no car, bro, No.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Because then you're gonna have to put water in it,
you have to pull over somewhere. It's just crazy on
the road right now.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well that's the thing that if also if you daily it,
you're keeping it healthier. So by dailing it, like you're
lowkey making your car more reliable. But I just I
just don't have it in me to like swapping out
cars every day and like or just daily like an
old car too. Like I like to I like to
have my new soundces. I like, I love really smooth,
(28:21):
power sting. If I'm going to drive it every day,
I can't be like, got to be reliable. Yeah, I
love driving stick, but man, sometimes in traffic, traffic, it
just gets It's not hard, it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's like, yeah, it's not hard to drive. Pause. No,
I'm just saying it's got. It seems so tough for me.
I don't know, and I don't want to learn because
I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You gotta get you gotta get the car and thence
like like you're like a beater bro. You can probably
find a car flight five hundred and now you just
got to drive it and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, that's how I learned how to drive. I was
twelve years old. My dad threw me on the freeway.
Dog here, figure it out. That's how we learned how
to swim, how we how to drive all of that. Google,
let's go man. He's performing September fifteenth at the Greek
Theater the Riding Tour. There will be merch as well.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, yes, sir, let's.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Get it man, and Riding is out now everywhere. The
Deluxe version is dropping September twelfth. Google Thank you very
much for stopping by. Appreciate you, Appreciate you. Let's get
it Yeah, hopped on Cruise Show Real ninety two three.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Hey Jack your rich for the Cruise Show. Thanks for
listening to the Cruise Show podcast. To make sure to subscribe,
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