October 6, 2025 • 19 mins
On this episode of the Cruz Show After Hours Podcast The Cruz Show discusses the Nicki vs Cardi Beef + They talk about the Dodgers 1st Wild Card game and they preview the new Interview with The Alchemist & Havoc (of Mobb Deep)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's see After Hours podcast here with the cruise show.
Let's get it of Coursia.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Let's start with the obvious, the obvious topic today, which
is Cardi versus nick It's gotten to the point right
where it's now like send me daddy.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, so now hands gotta be thrown. This is way
beyond twitters on social media. Now, now the cops got
to get involved on me. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Can we all agree that Nikki is is not okay?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Like not there?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Okay? No, Nicky's very sick. Yeah, I think she's very sick.
There was this therapy suggestion in some of those tweets,
weren't there. Yeah, Cardi was like, you need to go
to therapy now because I know why you upset and
you hate your mom. And she got very very vocal
about Nicky's childhood and her dad and allegations.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You know, it's crazy, is that? Like for people who.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Say that they don't f with each other, they know
a lot about each other.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Ah yeah, well that's because people around them probably tell
them cheeze men about them.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah yeah, I mean, how did Cardi know that it
was Nicki Minaj's son birthday the day she was going
off on. Yeah, you know, like there's people, there's intel there, yeah,
talking bro, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I mean going after kids. Yeah, Nikki is the one
that started. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But what I worry about. I was selling this to
Jackie off air, and I'm like, yo, like Cardi, like
you're talking about kids too, and you're pregnant, Like I
don't know, Like that's kind of crazy. You gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
The superstition in us, the Mexican superstisis like you can't
talk shit about somebody kids because then your kid.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah yeah, and like yeah, Cardi's Latina dog, you feel me.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, But like, yeah, I think once you bring in kids,
like the way that cart or that way that Nikki
is especially talking about, I'm a kick culture's gums back
is absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Calling them monkeys and yeah and yeah, like those kids
they don't deserve that right because they don't. They're not
in this right the same their beef, you know. But
here's the thing though, So I don't know if you
guys agree with me or disagree, but I think it's
time also for disc tracks to fly. This is hip hop,
not loving hip hop. Let's get to it. Bro. Listen,
(02:15):
if this was two dudes, we'd be saying, Yo, come on,
both of y'all need to stop acting like this and
get to it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, for sure, I do think that like something needs
to come of this. It's like example, like you were
talking about how Nikki said that she has a song
dropping in March next year and that supposedly it's about
jay Z and it's a disc jay Z allegedly, and
I'm just like, okay, well just drop it.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
If you got so much to say, then drop it.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think that's what like my issue is is like
there's nothing being done about this. You either throw hands
as if you're in the streets like that, or you
if you want to be this queen of rap, you
get to the music.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Get to the music. I think they're both scared to
drop a song. To be honest with you, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Crazy because that's the one thing. You got to give
Drake some credit for it right now. Granted he lost
no no, but he tried and he went for it
multiple times did and like that's the thing. Yeah, You're right,
like this this has become so petty that maybe it's
beyond music, which is kind of sad because then it's
like a new network show you know what I mean,
(03:19):
nobody wants that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, we have enough of that. Bro, It's not baddies,
it's not baddies, no, man, Like both of y'all are
in your prime. Yeah, and I think let it go.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They don't want to drop the music either, because, like
I said this, like title of like who is the
Queen of Rap is like on the line, and if
whoever loses, someone's got to lose, and someone has to
lose that.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
They're not willing to do that, both of them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh yeah, I think they're They're both they both have
enough insecurity to be worried about that.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, yeah, but I've seen I've seen enough in these tweets, right,
or these these X postings. I've seen enough that like
they're there's songs that can come out of all of that.
Now it's all been said, so like can you reput
that back into a song after you just wrote it
all over social media? Who knows? Maybe there's new stuff,
(04:10):
more stuff that people haven't revealed as far as Cardi
and Nikki goes as far as secrets, but some bars
have been laid out.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
There's people that aren't on social like that either and
probably don't see the tweets and just like don't even
probably see the Instagram pros reports like so the music, yeah,
dropping the song with all of this and all the
informations like and honestly, there's no there's no like realize
being told from Cardi's side, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Doesn't seem that way it does it? Like I believe
maybe the part about her son being nonverbal.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Nis Nikki's man is very much. There is proof in
the put in about that. So, I mean, at least
Cardi come with facts a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And they're both from New York, so both of them
were bred to roast. Yeah, right, New Yorker will roast
you hard hard, and they both I think it's roast time.
I think it's time for bars, and it's time like
hip hop holds them accountable for that. They should.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, That's what I'm saying back and forth. Yeah, and
I think we learned anything from Kendrick and Drake. It's like,
hey man, you know what I mean, Like this can
be said all that way and then all of a
sudden it just stops right and then hopefully life gets
back to normal eventually. Drake's still trying to get it there.
But I think the ladies man, you know what, let
it go man. And you know what's funny I noticed too,
is like it seems like Nikki is on an island, bro,
(05:34):
because when it comes to the other female rappers, like
everybody Barty gang now right, Everybody's party gang right.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean even like Lotto that all that little audio
about like Carti mentioning Lotto's name and a call to
I Spice's manager, Like even Lotto spoke on it afterwards
after the call was leaked, and she's like, yo, Cardy
and I are good. Like I was just like okay,
like cool. That just shows that people do fuck with Cardy.
All the girls do fuck with Cardi, and if you don't,
then you're you might be the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Nicki has, Nicki has with Remy, Ma, Cardi b Mariah Carey,
jay Z now jay Z. But I'm talking about like
the women.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I Spice now too.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, I don't think she's beefed with Ice Spicy after
after the song, Yeah, Cardi, Remy, Meg, Meg, Meg Lotto.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
So nickiswitch everyone away denominated Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's Nicki Minaj, you are the drama. Yeah, maybe she's
mad because like, yo, that should have been my title
dog maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But and like I said, I think since there is
like this like title on the line and with music,
it's just like Nicky's not gonna Nicky's not gonna let
it go.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Like Draken and Ken Drake, it was like, all right,
clearly there was a winner.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You just gotta take it in the chin, re recalibrate
and kind of go different, you know, and keep on
just putting out music and hoping that your fans still
fuck with you.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Nikki isn't going to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Nikki will literally just keep bashing and bashing and bashing
and bashing fingers.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And now are we be
fatigued or do we want to hear music? I just
want to understand what's going on. I want to hear music.
Lay it out, let's go, let's go. Let's have one
of these battles, these epic hit pop battles. I think
I think the genre needs it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, like it is two women.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I just hate that it is two women going out
each other when like and talking about each other's kids.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Like I just really hate that. Yeah, it's just that's
just my idea.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I guess in a way because like bro, like
I feel like all women can coexist. Now, I'm not
saying that they all have to fuck with each other.
All these women and and hip hop and whatever. I'm
not saying that they all have to fuck with each other.
But I know that they can coexist. Just do your thing,
I'll do my thing. We know that we don't fuck
with each other, and that's cool. That's all we have
(08:10):
to keep it. We don't even got to be photographed together.
We don't got to do deals together, brand deals, none
of that. Just do your thing and I do mine.
But that's not how it is for Nicki, and I'm
just like in it. It's frustrating because I'm just like bro,
there's so many more women who are so good who
need that like big sister help, and you guys aren't
(08:32):
it for them.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I think Nicki is a better rapper than all of them.
At the end of the day, I believe Nicki Minaj
is a better rapper than all of them. Now that
she believed that.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't know Nikki.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I do give her her credit in the way that
she can rap. I just think that she's so wrapped
up in this bullshit that. It just makes it hard for.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Me and whatever she's going through personally. Yeah, like it's
just less.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It just makes it hard, you know. It's just like, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I do fuggle with her, but I'm a barb. You
guys know this. You are barb. But it's tough right
now and stuff being a barbed off bro, because I'm
also Barty gang. Yeah, you gonna have to pick a side.
Oh no, when the music drops, I'm picking a side, man.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Do you think the barbs are tired of being barbs
right now?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
God, they must be exhausting being No, they love it.
They love it. I love it, bro, they want it. Yeah,
they follow her for a reason. Dog, Yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, all right, let's move on. Uh, let's move on
real quick to the Dodgers, Jackie. Uh, you were at
the game last night. It was uh, man, the Dodgers
offense looked terrific and I that had has to be
a real big key for them.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
But uh, that bullpen was pretty bad. How did you
feel in the eighth inning?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I was tired, I was exhaust I was mentally just
over it.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I was like I saw the score, like we performed
how we did in the first half of the game,
and I was just like, Yo, this is gonna be easy.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's eight thirty.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm gonna get out of here by nine like that's
fine by me, Like I'm cool, I'm chilling. And then
all of a sudden the score is ten too, and
I'm like, amazing, eight run lead, like we're fine.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
All of a sudden it's ten to five and I'm like,
what the fuck are we doing here? What are we
doing here?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
At what point are you gonna have to put me
into pitch Like that's where we're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yesterday, they need me out there. You see the way
up there?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Hey, they were throwing like your first pitch dog. No.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I like, I love I love Vessia like I curse.
I literally feel like.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I feel like Bessia is like one of the prominent,
like you know, relief pitchers. However, yesterday, I was like,
this man can't throw a strike to save his life.
And then Henriquez came in and I was just like, bro,
oh my god, we need out there.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yes, bro, nobody could throw a strike.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It was notle And I was just like I was
literally there, like.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
How normal is that? Though? That's not normal. It's not
Remember something you remember the movie Major Leagues. I talked
about this this morning on What He Show. Remember how
like Charlie Sheen would throw, he couldn't he throws so fast,
but couldn't hit. He couldn't get do a strike, and
then they got him glasses. Dodgers need to take the
whole bullp into lens crafters right away. Bro, get some glasses,
Vision Planic. It really felt like that, like, Bro, you
(11:32):
guys cannot hit. I literally cost Vision.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Clinic yelling like I was like, oh my god. I
was like, just throw the ball. I'm not even asking
for a curveball, a slider, a change. I'm not asking
for anything. Just throw the ball and let them hit
it and let the defense do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Did we need out there to we need someone's strike?
We need a bomb series in the series, No geek
out there? What do we need at this point?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Get thrown like a seventy mile an hour ball and
they probably can get thrown for a strike.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah exactly. It was crazy, dog.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And I'm getting like text from like my friends like
fucking Leo and all them bro, and there diehards, Bro
and they're just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Fuck? Everything's fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. You know what
I mean. At the stadium, how hard is it to
hype up the crowd when the team is obviously going
through it and you feel because there's an energy out there.
I love that your stadium, but that energy is real, right,
especially when the team is down. How hard is it
to get on that stage and get people going.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, Well, like, here's the thing is that, like for postseason,
we're now like implementing like a hype crew in the
pavilion specifically, and that's what like one of my rules
is over there during postseason, aside from hosting.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But it is hard because like if.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Eight, ten to two lead amazing, people want to people
want to be on camera ten to five, you're at
it just like you're literally get me. You're looking at
a five foot girl fucking waving a flag saying come on, guys, No,
I don't even.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Want to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I don't want to, Like I'm upset and how the
team's performing. It's so hard to be like, hey, do
you want to be on camera?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I was watching the game at home and they were
showing the crowd, bro and everyone in the crowd is
so sick that the you know the emoji that shake
in my head emoji.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Everyone was like that in the crowd, just sick for
the Holy Eighth Dinny. It was crazy, but energy can
be felt in that stagement. Yet. But they won, yes,
which is cool, so thank god, but like they got
to figure some shit out.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah. And then my dad was telling me that it
went on the way home. He had given me a
call and he was just like he's like, yeah, Jack.
They were showing like all the all the fans like
in their faces and the reactions.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
They were just shaking their head. I'm like, honestly, that
that's how it was.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Like.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You could you could literally hear everybody like just one
by one, like come on, like let's go, and you're
just like, damn, this is rough.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And they would cheer when they finally threw a strike,
like if it was a home run dog, yeah, oh man, because.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Finally it was so bad, like they cheered and I
was just like, oh my god, the inning's done. And
then and then one of my coworkers was just like, no,
it's the second out, and I'm like, oh my god,
Like I I was so annoyed. Yeah, that I walked away.
I was like, I'm gonna be honest, guys, you just
call me back when we when we need to be Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I feel it because you're a fan, right and like
you're so tired, and like you're you're you want the
team to do well, you know, and you're into it.
So yeah, it's gonna affect you. It's gonna affect your
mood too. Yeah, you got a hard job on. It's
like that, man, for sure.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Now, I hate that my mood depends on twenty six men.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Ha ha, Yeah, welcome to it, don't.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I hate the fact that my mood.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Your future happiness will be dependent on Nico, your future kids.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So it didn't get a change for you, Jack, I
hate to tell you that. Damn dog, that's a lie.
That's crazy. That's the greatest line ever. Are they going
to sweep? They should?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
They should?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They should? I think they should. I mean, you, mood
has been great all season, so they should be fine.
I'm saying sweep. Let's roll on to Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
On the way, we have an interview with a producer,
Alchemist and Havoc from Mob Deep new album Infinite out
on October tenth.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's gonna be really great.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Man. This is this is a has Prodigy versus on it,
excuse me, and some new stuff from Havoc and some
old and new stuff from Alchemists.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So it's gonna be pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You guys enjoyed the interview, right, It literally just happened,
you know, twenty minutes ago, so I'm still feeling it.
I think there's some really great stories. I had no
idea that he knew Sonny CORDIONI like that Alchemist.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Isn't that crazy? That's a crazy That was a really
good question. I love his impression of them too, Guys.
He's not even Italian even sally. That broke my heart.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, and who thought he was Who couldn't believe that
he wasn't white?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hit boy? Yeah, hip Boy's dad, hip Boy's dad, his dad,
he was white.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And I think you ast them a great question too
about getting dragged into beefs, which was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I thought that was great. That's happened a few times, yeah, man,
and got those beats though, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, And if you're like a mob deep fan, the
fact that they had all this other shit documented from
back in the day, and how Prodigy was even like flogging, yeah,
vlogging before it was called vlogging.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like the camera like, yeah, yeah, it's a really terrific interview.
Was there anything else that I missed on here? I'm
trying to look.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
At these, you know, the the Kendrick stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I thought like how Alchemist like had sent him that
beat six to seven months prior, and then even one
heard it when we heard it too, had a song
and had a verse on it and then muted it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I want to hear that verse.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm so curious.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I hate when they tell us that because then I'm like, well,
you're gonna put it out or yeah, let's get a dougie.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I like the part two where you asked about uh
or you reminded that Mob Deep were the ones that
didn't get called out in the Park song.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Oh no they did. Yeah, they they got called out,
but in a positive way, not not a negative one.
Well no, no, no no, So so I'm like, yo,
like the shout out. What I was talking about was
fuck Mob Deep, fuck jay Z, fuck Nas right like
like Park was just rolling out like name after every
New York artist or group that was popping at that time,
and you know, and they they heard that and it
(17:39):
excited them, right, and it fueled him and to this
day he's got a battery on his back because of
that shout out. You know, it's crazy and yeah, that
was a whole that's that was a wow. What a
moment in hip hop mob deep in POC and all
that was like that was some you know, and then
we saw what happened. You know, we lost both of them, right,
we lost Big Gampo.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
We need from Guardian Nikki is fuck this fuck go in,
go in, right, go.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
In, Let's get it. And then like I think, like
the casino talk with Nas, you know was interesting, the
pop talk to meet the Grahams, there was so much
and almost on Bad Boy was really good. Oh yeah,
did he almost sign them back to like yeah, like
the his friend Scott con right, Like, who's an actor. Now,
He's been on a lot of stuff. Been in Oceans eleven,
(18:24):
Oceans eleven. Yeah, he was on Entourage, he was on
Magnum p I, the newer series that came out. But
he's in a lot of stuff. He's a really good actor. Yeah, yeah,
he's a really good actor. That's crazy. And his dad
is legendary. Dad is legendary, legendary elf. He was an elf.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yes, he was an elf.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, he said his dad was like that. That wasn't acting.
That's the way his dad was. Yeah, he's like he
never really broke out of that character.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Good interview should drop shortly. Guys, well let's wrap go
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Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, because I don't know exactly
It's see After Hours podcast here with the cruise show.
Let's get it of Coursia.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Let's start with the obvious, the obvious topic today, which
is Cardi versus nick It's gotten to the point right
where it's now like send me daddy.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, so now hands gotta be thrown. This is way
beyond twitters on social media. Now, now the cops got
to get involved on me. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Can we all agree that Nikki is is not okay?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Like not there?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Okay? No, Nicky's very sick. Yeah, I think she's very sick.
There was this therapy suggestion in some of those tweets,
weren't there. Yeah, Cardi was like, you need to go
to therapy now because I know why you upset and
you hate your mom. And she got very very vocal
about Nicky's childhood and her dad and allegations.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You know, it's crazy, is that? Like for people who.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Say that they don't f with each other, they know
a lot about each other.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Ah yeah, well that's because people around them probably tell
them cheeze men about them.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah yeah, I mean, how did Cardi know that it
was Nicki Minaj's son birthday the day she was going
off on. Yeah, you know, like there's people, there's intel there, yeah,
talking bro, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I mean going after kids. Yeah, Nikki is the one
that started. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But what I worry about. I was selling this to
Jackie off air, and I'm like, yo, like Cardi, like
you're talking about kids too, and you're pregnant, Like I
don't know, Like that's kind of crazy. You gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
The superstition in us, the Mexican superstisis like you can't
talk shit about somebody kids because then your kid.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah yeah, and like yeah, Cardi's Latina dog, you feel me.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, But like, yeah, I think once you bring in kids,
like the way that cart or that way that Nikki
is especially talking about, I'm a kick culture's gums back
is absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Calling them monkeys and yeah and yeah, like those kids
they don't deserve that right because they don't. They're not
in this right the same their beef, you know. But
here's the thing though, So I don't know if you
guys agree with me or disagree, but I think it's
time also for disc tracks to fly. This is hip hop,
not loving hip hop. Let's get to it. Bro. Listen,
(02:15):
if this was two dudes, we'd be saying, Yo, come on,
both of y'all need to stop acting like this and
get to it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, for sure, I do think that like something needs
to come of this. It's like example, like you were
talking about how Nikki said that she has a song
dropping in March next year and that supposedly it's about
jay Z and it's a disc jay Z allegedly, and
I'm just like, okay, well just drop it.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
If you got so much to say, then drop it.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think that's what like my issue is is like
there's nothing being done about this. You either throw hands
as if you're in the streets like that, or you
if you want to be this queen of rap, you
get to the music.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Get to the music. I think they're both scared to
drop a song. To be honest with you, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Crazy because that's the one thing. You got to give
Drake some credit for it right now. Granted he lost
no no, but he tried and he went for it
multiple times did and like that's the thing. Yeah, You're right,
like this this has become so petty that maybe it's
beyond music, which is kind of sad because then it's
like a new network show you know what I mean,
(03:19):
nobody wants that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, we have enough of that. Bro, It's not baddies,
it's not baddies, no, man, Like both of y'all are
in your prime. Yeah, and I think let it go.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They don't want to drop the music either, because, like
I said this, like title of like who is the
Queen of Rap is like on the line, and if
whoever loses, someone's got to lose, and someone has to
lose that.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
They're not willing to do that, both of them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh yeah, I think they're They're both they both have
enough insecurity to be worried about that.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, yeah, but I've seen I've seen enough in these tweets, right,
or these these X postings. I've seen enough that like
they're there's songs that can come out of all of that.
Now it's all been said, so like can you reput
that back into a song after you just wrote it
all over social media? Who knows? Maybe there's new stuff,
(04:10):
more stuff that people haven't revealed as far as Cardi
and Nikki goes as far as secrets, but some bars
have been laid out.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
There's people that aren't on social like that either and
probably don't see the tweets and just like don't even
probably see the Instagram pros reports like so the music, yeah,
dropping the song with all of this and all the
informations like and honestly, there's no there's no like realize
being told from Cardi's side, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Doesn't seem that way it does it? Like I believe
maybe the part about her son being nonverbal.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Nis Nikki's man is very much. There is proof in
the put in about that. So, I mean, at least
Cardi come with facts a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And they're both from New York, so both of them
were bred to roast. Yeah, right, New Yorker will roast
you hard hard, and they both I think it's roast time.
I think it's time for bars, and it's time like
hip hop holds them accountable for that. They should.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, That's what I'm saying back and forth. Yeah, and
I think we learned anything from Kendrick and Drake. It's like,
hey man, you know what I mean, Like this can
be said all that way and then all of a
sudden it just stops right and then hopefully life gets
back to normal eventually. Drake's still trying to get it there.
But I think the ladies man, you know what, let
it go man. And you know what's funny I noticed too,
is like it seems like Nikki is on an island, bro,
(05:34):
because when it comes to the other female rappers, like
everybody Barty gang now right, Everybody's party gang right.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean even like Lotto that all that little audio
about like Carti mentioning Lotto's name and a call to
I Spice's manager, Like even Lotto spoke on it afterwards
after the call was leaked, and she's like, yo, Cardy
and I are good. Like I was just like okay,
like cool. That just shows that people do fuck with Cardy.
All the girls do fuck with Cardi, and if you don't,
then you're you might be the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Nicki has, Nicki has with Remy, Ma, Cardi b Mariah Carey,
jay Z now jay Z. But I'm talking about like
the women.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I Spice now too.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, I don't think she's beefed with Ice Spicy after
after the song, Yeah, Cardi, Remy, Meg, Meg, Meg Lotto.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
So nickiswitch everyone away denominated Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's Nicki Minaj, you are the drama. Yeah, maybe she's
mad because like, yo, that should have been my title
dog maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But and like I said, I think since there is
like this like title on the line and with music,
it's just like Nicky's not gonna Nicky's not gonna let
it go.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Like Draken and Ken Drake, it was like, all right,
clearly there was a winner.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You just gotta take it in the chin, re recalibrate
and kind of go different, you know, and keep on
just putting out music and hoping that your fans still
fuck with you.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Nikki isn't going to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Nikki will literally just keep bashing and bashing and bashing
and bashing fingers.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And now are we be
fatigued or do we want to hear music? I just
want to understand what's going on. I want to hear music.
Lay it out, let's go, let's go. Let's have one
of these battles, these epic hit pop battles. I think
I think the genre needs it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, like it is two women.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I just hate that it is two women going out
each other when like and talking about each other's kids.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Like I just really hate that. Yeah, it's just that's
just my idea.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I guess in a way because like bro, like
I feel like all women can coexist. Now, I'm not
saying that they all have to fuck with each other.
All these women and and hip hop and whatever. I'm
not saying that they all have to fuck with each other.
But I know that they can coexist. Just do your thing,
I'll do my thing. We know that we don't fuck
with each other, and that's cool. That's all we have
(08:10):
to keep it. We don't even got to be photographed together.
We don't got to do deals together, brand deals, none
of that. Just do your thing and I do mine.
But that's not how it is for Nicki, and I'm
just like in it. It's frustrating because I'm just like bro,
there's so many more women who are so good who
need that like big sister help, and you guys aren't
(08:32):
it for them.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I think Nicki is a better rapper than all of them.
At the end of the day, I believe Nicki Minaj
is a better rapper than all of them. Now that
she believed that.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't know Nikki.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I do give her her credit in the way that
she can rap. I just think that she's so wrapped
up in this bullshit that. It just makes it hard for.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Me and whatever she's going through personally. Yeah, like it's
just less.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It just makes it hard, you know. It's just like, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I do fuggle with her, but I'm a barb. You
guys know this. You are barb. But it's tough right
now and stuff being a barbed off bro, because I'm
also Barty gang. Yeah, you gonna have to pick a side.
Oh no, when the music drops, I'm picking a side, man.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Do you think the barbs are tired of being barbs
right now?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
God, they must be exhausting being No, they love it.
They love it. I love it, bro, they want it. Yeah,
they follow her for a reason. Dog, Yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, all right, let's move on. Uh, let's move on
real quick to the Dodgers, Jackie. Uh, you were at
the game last night. It was uh, man, the Dodgers
offense looked terrific and I that had has to be
a real big key for them.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
But uh, that bullpen was pretty bad. How did you
feel in the eighth inning?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I was tired, I was exhaust I was mentally just
over it.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I was like I saw the score, like we performed
how we did in the first half of the game,
and I was just like, Yo, this is gonna be easy.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's eight thirty.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm gonna get out of here by nine like that's
fine by me, Like I'm cool, I'm chilling. And then
all of a sudden the score is ten too, and
I'm like, amazing, eight run lead, like we're fine.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
All of a sudden it's ten to five and I'm like,
what the fuck are we doing here? What are we
doing here?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
At what point are you gonna have to put me
into pitch Like that's where we're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yesterday, they need me out there. You see the way
up there?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Hey, they were throwing like your first pitch dog. No.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I like, I love I love Vessia like I curse.
I literally feel like.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I feel like Bessia is like one of the prominent,
like you know, relief pitchers. However, yesterday, I was like,
this man can't throw a strike to save his life.
And then Henriquez came in and I was just like, bro,
oh my god, we need out there.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yes, bro, nobody could throw a strike.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It was notle And I was just like I was
literally there, like.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
How normal is that? Though? That's not normal. It's not
Remember something you remember the movie Major Leagues. I talked
about this this morning on What He Show. Remember how
like Charlie Sheen would throw, he couldn't he throws so fast,
but couldn't hit. He couldn't get do a strike, and
then they got him glasses. Dodgers need to take the
whole bullp into lens crafters right away. Bro, get some glasses,
Vision Planic. It really felt like that, like, Bro, you
(11:32):
guys cannot hit. I literally cost Vision.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Clinic yelling like I was like, oh my god. I
was like, just throw the ball. I'm not even asking
for a curveball, a slider, a change. I'm not asking
for anything. Just throw the ball and let them hit
it and let the defense do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Did we need out there to we need someone's strike?
We need a bomb series in the series, No geek
out there? What do we need at this point?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Get thrown like a seventy mile an hour ball and
they probably can get thrown for a strike.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah exactly. It was crazy, dog.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And I'm getting like text from like my friends like
fucking Leo and all them bro, and there diehards, Bro
and they're just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Fuck? Everything's fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. You know what
I mean. At the stadium, how hard is it to
hype up the crowd when the team is obviously going
through it and you feel because there's an energy out there.
I love that your stadium, but that energy is real, right,
especially when the team is down. How hard is it
to get on that stage and get people going.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, Well, like, here's the thing is that, like for postseason,
we're now like implementing like a hype crew in the
pavilion specifically, and that's what like one of my rules
is over there during postseason, aside from hosting.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But it is hard because like if.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Eight, ten to two lead amazing, people want to people
want to be on camera ten to five, you're at
it just like you're literally get me. You're looking at
a five foot girl fucking waving a flag saying come on, guys, No,
I don't even.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Want to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I don't want to, Like I'm upset and how the
team's performing. It's so hard to be like, hey, do
you want to be on camera?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I was watching the game at home and they were
showing the crowd, bro and everyone in the crowd is
so sick that the you know the emoji that shake
in my head emoji.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Everyone was like that in the crowd, just sick for
the Holy Eighth Dinny. It was crazy, but energy can
be felt in that stagement. Yet. But they won, yes,
which is cool, so thank god, but like they got
to figure some shit out.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah. And then my dad was telling me that it
went on the way home. He had given me a
call and he was just like he's like, yeah, Jack.
They were showing like all the all the fans like
in their faces and the reactions.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
They were just shaking their head. I'm like, honestly, that
that's how it was.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Like.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You could you could literally hear everybody like just one
by one, like come on, like let's go, and you're
just like, damn, this is rough.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And they would cheer when they finally threw a strike,
like if it was a home run dog, yeah, oh man, because.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Finally it was so bad, like they cheered and I
was just like, oh my god, the inning's done. And
then and then one of my coworkers was just like, no,
it's the second out, and I'm like, oh my god,
Like I I was so annoyed. Yeah, that I walked away.
I was like, I'm gonna be honest, guys, you just
call me back when we when we need to be Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I feel it because you're a fan, right and like
you're so tired, and like you're you're you want the
team to do well, you know, and you're into it.
So yeah, it's gonna affect you. It's gonna affect your
mood too. Yeah, you got a hard job on. It's
like that, man, for sure.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Now, I hate that my mood depends on twenty six men.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Ha ha, Yeah, welcome to it, don't.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I hate the fact that my mood.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Your future happiness will be dependent on Nico, your future kids.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So it didn't get a change for you, Jack, I
hate to tell you that. Damn dog, that's a lie.
That's crazy. That's the greatest line ever. Are they going
to sweep? They should?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
They should?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They should? I think they should. I mean, you, mood
has been great all season, so they should be fine.
I'm saying sweep. Let's roll on to Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
On the way, we have an interview with a producer,
Alchemist and Havoc from Mob Deep new album Infinite out
on October tenth.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's gonna be really great.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Man. This is this is a has Prodigy versus on it,
excuse me, and some new stuff from Havoc and some
old and new stuff from Alchemists.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So it's gonna be pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You guys enjoyed the interview, right, It literally just happened,
you know, twenty minutes ago, so I'm still feeling it.
I think there's some really great stories. I had no
idea that he knew Sonny CORDIONI like that Alchemist.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Isn't that crazy? That's a crazy That was a really
good question. I love his impression of them too, Guys.
He's not even Italian even sally. That broke my heart.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, and who thought he was Who couldn't believe that
he wasn't white?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hit boy? Yeah, hip Boy's dad, hip Boy's dad, his dad,
he was white.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And I think you ast them a great question too
about getting dragged into beefs, which was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I thought that was great. That's happened a few times, yeah, man,
and got those beats though, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, And if you're like a mob deep fan, the
fact that they had all this other shit documented from
back in the day, and how Prodigy was even like flogging, yeah,
vlogging before it was called vlogging.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like the camera like, yeah, yeah, it's a really terrific interview.
Was there anything else that I missed on here? I'm
trying to look.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
At these, you know, the the Kendrick stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I thought like how Alchemist like had sent him that
beat six to seven months prior, and then even one
heard it when we heard it too, had a song
and had a verse on it and then muted it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I want to hear that verse.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm so curious.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I hate when they tell us that because then I'm like, well,
you're gonna put it out or yeah, let's get a dougie.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I like the part two where you asked about uh
or you reminded that Mob Deep were the ones that
didn't get called out in the Park song.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Oh no they did. Yeah, they they got called out,
but in a positive way, not not a negative one.
Well no, no, no no, So so I'm like, yo,
like the shout out. What I was talking about was
fuck Mob Deep, fuck jay Z, fuck Nas right like
like Park was just rolling out like name after every
New York artist or group that was popping at that time,
and you know, and they they heard that and it
(17:39):
excited them, right, and it fueled him and to this
day he's got a battery on his back because of
that shout out. You know, it's crazy and yeah, that
was a whole that's that was a wow. What a
moment in hip hop mob deep in POC and all
that was like that was some you know, and then
we saw what happened. You know, we lost both of them, right,
we lost Big Gampo.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
We need from Guardian Nikki is fuck this fuck go in,
go in, right, go.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
In, Let's get it. And then like I think, like
the casino talk with Nas, you know was interesting, the
pop talk to meet the Grahams, there was so much
and almost on Bad Boy was really good. Oh yeah,
did he almost sign them back to like yeah, like
the his friend Scott con right, Like, who's an actor. Now,
He's been on a lot of stuff. Been in Oceans eleven,
(18:24):
Oceans eleven. Yeah, he was on Entourage, he was on
Magnum p I, the newer series that came out. But
he's in a lot of stuff. He's a really good actor. Yeah, yeah,
he's a really good actor. That's crazy. And his dad
is legendary. Dad is legendary, legendary elf. He was an elf.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yes, he was an elf.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, he said his dad was like that. That wasn't acting.
That's the way his dad was. Yeah, he's like he
never really broke out of that character.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Good interview should drop shortly. Guys, well let's wrap go
ahead and wrap up the podcast. We appreciate you watching,
listening and all that. Make sure you please check out
the Cruise Show two to seven Real ninety two to three.
You can also if you're not in l A and
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(19:10):
you're in at the time, and you'd be good to go.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, because I don't know exactly
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