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Jording me in studio today is thedog professor Rob Loss from the Edgefield Animal
Care Center. Sir, how youdoing good? Good? We're going to
talk today about barking when you leave. Boy, that's a common thing.
I think that's very common, isn'tit. Yeah, it's common, and
it's extremely frustrating for people. Right. Don't you know that dogs get some
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separation anxiety or they're used to kindof controlling all your attention when you're home,
and then when you leave, theyreally don't know what to do with
themselves, and the barking actually becomesalmost comfort to them, and it becomes
just something that goes routine every day. And you know, if you're living
in an apartment or even close toneighbors or whatever, it becomes a real
problem. And the problem with correctingthat is if you go back in and
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tell your dog no, and thisand that, you're basically rewarding the barking
behavior. So it's it's something that'svery hard to deal with. It's and
when we try to deal with it, I mean, there's the whole thing
is usually rooted in your dog demandingsome attention, that's basic what it is,
or having too much brain energy tooccupy themselves with things. So it's
kind of a multi pronged approach.There's no exact answer on how we try
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to deal with it. The easiestway to deal with it is when you
when you get a pup or ayoung dog, it's to try to avoid
it occurring, okay, with propersocialization and so forth and so on.
But sometimes you might adopt a dogand now they're in a new environment and
they're an older dog, and theyjust don't know what's going on. So
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we try to try to attack itfrom different points of view. And first
off, we attack it with yourdog's lack of confidence. Okay, so
how do we build confidence in adog? Well, if you've ever listened
to this podcast, you know thattraining is one thing that helps build confidence.
You're giving your dog a task todo, they accomplish the task,
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they become confident in themselves, justas a person would. So obviously obedience
training is important this case. Andone of the main obedience commands that helps
with barking or separation anxiety or issueslike that is the down stay command.
So it gives the dog instead ofwhen you put a dog in a down
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stay and leave the room. Nowit's not just the dog being bored and
not focusing their brain on something todo. So like it was before,
where they just have nothing to do, they have nothing for their brain to
do, so they start barking.Well, now when we step out of
the room and put them in adown stay, now they're focused on successfully
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completing the command and that occupies thebrain energy, so they're not barking now.
I'm not advocating you go to workand leave your dog in a down
stay. That's obviously not it.But that's one of the prongs we approach
with this, along with all theother obedience issues. That's a process you
start right away with your young dog, or let's say you just brought a
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dog home from the pound or theHu Made Society or rescue or whatever.
You need to start this right away, and it starts by walking in the
room. It starts by establishing yourselfas that alpha within the house, because
a lot of times the barking whenyou leave, it throws the dog in
a position in their mind that nowthey are responsible for everything that goes on
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around the house, and a lotof dogs who don't have confidence in themselves
to handle everything that goes on aroundthe house. They're crying out for you.
Come back, come back, youknow, take care of all,
take care of the thing that justmade the noise over there behind the door,
or the thing I hear outside orwhatever. So that's what causes anxiety
in dogs, and that results inthem barking. Now there's also dogs that
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just know because they have learned thatbarking brings you back to pay attention to
them, and they're just crying outfor the attention. So they're either anxious
or they're crying out for the attention. Either way, you got to give
them an alternative to do something withtheir So number one alternative right off the
bat and to establish things is todo some obedience. Why because, like
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I said, builds confidence, butalso it leads into other ways to deal
with this. One thing that's veryeffective. If you've got older dogs or
puppies that are older and they're learningthis game that look, you know,
you'll you don't want the neighbors complaining. So if I bark a few times,
you'll come right back and take careof me. So we get to
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that point. It's kind of trickyto deal with the issue and We've talked
on this program before about using remotecollars, also known as shot collars.
Okay. A lot of times mostpeople's first resort when they're dealing with a
dog that's barking is they go outand buy what's called a bark collar,
okay, or an anti bark collaror whatever. And most of these anti
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bark collars, there's two ways theydo it. They work on a they
have a microphone that picks up yourdog barking, and they re on to
the barking the same way the invisiblefence response to your dog when they cross
the invisible fence or whatever, theygive an audible warning usually okay, and
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the audible warning is usually a beep, so forth and so on, and
your dog first time they use it, they're like, I don't even know
what that beep is, I don'tknow where it's coming from. Whatever.
So they go back to barking,and then after the beep or the audible
warning, they get some type ofuncomfortable correction. Now, some collars use
a shock, you know, ashock about the level of you touching your
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doorknob as you just shoveled across thecarpet in your living room static shock,
or they'll use like a smell deturn Okay, really some of them used
to use actual citronella. All right, so you come home, you know
your dog's been barking because he smellslike a citronella candle and there's no mosquitos
bothering. Yeah, all right,and his face is all greasy and everything
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else because it shoots out a blastof that or some dog some collars have
made their correction is more annoying,annoying noise, which really doesn't help your
case with your neighbors at the apartment. So the most effective ones in that
group, which I don't feel personallyhaving used them over the years, that
they're very effective, is the staticshock okay. And but the problem is
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is getting those things set to acertain volume or sensitivity. You know when
something fell, you know, whenyour cat is jacking around in your house
and they just knock something off thetable and it makes a bang on the
floor. Did your dog get ashock because the collar picked up that noise.
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So I've found them to be notvery effective because they're hard for people
to set. Usually, the mosteffective of anything static shockwise that you use
is are the remote collars that youactually have the remote that you press the
button. So dog is barking,I've decided I'm going to use a remote
collar and I'm going to work onthis barking. So when I leave the
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house, I'm getting in my car, I can hear him barking. I
want to work that. So numberone first, before you use any remote
collar for anything, any problem,not just the barking, is your dog
has to understand what's going on.Okay, And the easiest way for you
to integrate a remote collar into yourdog's training to where they it makes it
easy for them to understand what's goingon is you have to integrate it and
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with training. Okay. Now,if your dog has an invisible fence outside
and they're barking inside the house,then you are in a great position to
use a remote collar for the barkingbecause your dog already understands the process of
what brings a correction, and inhis world, the beep that he hears
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brings the correction. Okay, thebeep that he hears when he gets close
to the fence, he knows thatif he continues on and continues to hear
the beep, that he's going toget a correction. It's what keeps him
from I'm running out of the fence. Well, inside the house is a
little different. Okay, So ifyou have a remote collar, the remote
collar has a beep, you're getToday's the day you're working on it.
All right, Fine, we're gonnadress him up with that collar. Maybe
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he's free in the house. Maybehe goes in his crate. Now it's
a little trickier in the crate becausewe obviously don't recommend your dog having collars
on while they're in a crate.But today is a Saturday. I'm not
going to work. I'm going topractice this training. Okay, I'm going
to get myself ready. I'm goingto go through the routine like I'm leaving
for work or whatever routine it isthat results in your dog barking when they
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get left. Maybe it's just whenthey go in their crate. They just
bark because they know you can't doanything about it until you let him out
of the crate. That's a possibilityto either way. Long story short,
we're gonna practice it. So thecollar is on, the remote collar is
on, I put him in thecrate. Maybe I'm going to go watch
football. Maybe I'm leaving to goto work, whatever it is. Every
time I leave the room. Nowhe's barking in the crate. So I
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go in the other room. Firstthing I do is I don't yell anything.
I don't shout anything. I don'tsay no or scream or whatever.
Okay, I press the beep onthe on my collar and you might hear
a slight pause when he hears thebeap. As to your that is your
dog pondering. Wait a minute,this is not I had not heard this
in the house before I heard itoutside. Now what's going on? What
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comes next? Well, I don'tcare, I don't know. I'm going
to go back to barking. Goright back to the barking. Then we
press, uh, press the correction, but on the collar. Okay.
Now, your best correction collars,your best remote collars, have adjustable levels
of correction, obviously very easy toaccess on your remotes. Don't go out
and buy one that has one setcorrection okay level, because you might have
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a dog that goes I don't evenknow what that was. That was just
something that bothers me. So youwant to be able to adjust them.
So he bark bark, barks.I hit the beep, slight pause in
the barking, not sure what thebeep is, goes right back to barking.
Next press on the button is theremote correction button. Okay, did
he respond? No, he's stillbarking. So I turned the dial up
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a little bit. Hit the remotecorrection button again, no response. Hit
the correct Now I'm on four.Maybe on the dial, hit the correction
button again. Okay, we stopbarking. Might have even hurt a little
hope or yip or whatever. Okay, I'm now the dog is now going
Okay, something's going on here alittle bit. So they'll ponder a little
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bit when I hear the quiet.If I'm practicing this and I'm still in
the house, okay, maybe Iwant to watch the Buckeyes and I don't
want to hear him barking. Puthim in the crate. Okay, now
would be the time. Maybe afterwe get that quiet, I might respond
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a little bit. But this isthe first day. So I'm what I'm
gonna do is I'm gonna wait,and I'm gonna see how long I have
quiet. The quiet period Okay,so most dogs they give you a little
quiet and then they go to thejust the tester bark, which the tester
bark is a you know, orthe whine or some other thing. Okay,
if we hear the tester or thewine or whatever, and it's been
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after a period of quiet, maybeit's been after a minute of quiet or
two minutes of quiet or whatever,I restart the process again. So the
next noise we hear, we startat the beep. Okay, so we
get the hoof, so we hitthe beep. Quiet. Now there's quiet
again. Okay. Now in thiscase, I know, those of you
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who have heard me before, Ialways associate a verbal correction a no with
whatever physical correction we try to do. In this case, there is no
verbal correction along with it. Okay, there's just the collar doing the work.
There's just the beep and the correction. The beep and the correction.
Okay, So pretty soon, andmost of this in most cases, in
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ninety eight percent of the cases whereyour dog is barking, it's the first
fifteen minutes when you leave, orthe first fifteen minutes when you're supposed to
normally be home on time. Soyou can usually wrap this up in the
first five ten minutes. So hebarked, We hit the beep, kept
barking, hit the correction, stoppedbarking for a little bit, gave little
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half hearted attempts at barking, wentback to the beep. Now we've had
silence. Okay, so now I'mgoing to wait for a few minutes.
See how long the silence will go. Okay, now we're out of the
fifteen minute realm. He's quiet.He's probably laid down, maybe even gone
to sleep. Okay, that's whatI wait for as the owner before I
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let him back out of the crate. Okay, I reward the quiet,
I reward the calm. But ittook that process to wire the dog's brain
to the fact that you can becalm in there and everything will be fine.
Okay. So that's using a crate, that's using a remote collar.
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That's about in that case, that'sthe only way we get a handle on
things. Right. Well, maybeyou leave your dog loose when you leave,
okay, which if your dog isbarking when you leave, it's probably
not a good idea to give themaccess to the entire house when you leave,
because the energy that drives them tobark will also drive them to chew
when they get tired of barking andthey want to redirect that energy on something
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else. So most barking, ninetimes out of ten times, most barking
occurs when they're in a crate orthey're confined to a room or so forth
and so on. So I'm goingto practice that same before I move on.
I'm going to practice that same processwith the dog with the stay command
out of the crate. Okay,So I've I've spent the first half of
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the Buckeye game doing what I justtalked about with the dog in the crate.
Now I'm going to spend the secondhalf of the Buckeye game because I've
practiced. I've taught the dog thedown command or a sit command or whatever,
putting them in a down, puttingthem in a sit in the room
with me, but not release themfrom the crate and come up and snuggle
me on the couch. Okay,because then that's just up. That's just
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a build up for the next time, you know, juicing the batteries for
the next time the dog goes inthe crate for the barking. What I'm
gonna do is I'm gonna let youout. I might have a leash on
I might not, but I'm gonnaput you in a down or a sit
stay in the room with me,but you're not going to be touching me.
You're not going to be on thecouch. You're not gonna be We're
gonna be in here like dudes.We're gonna watch the football game, okay.
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And it teaches the dog that evenwhen I'm loose and I'm in the
room with you, I'm not goingto go through this big dramatic thing that
I'm oh, I die, Idied in there. Why are you away
from you? I must touch younow the whole time. No, we
can be in here, we canbe cool, but you're going to be
on the floor or you're gonna bein your bed watching the game with me.
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This is where we're going to be. This is how things are going
to be. So we're practicing.We're inducing calm in the dog even when
they're with us. So when they'renot with us, it's not such a
big deal. If I teach youthat every moment you're with me, you
are attached to me like velcrow,then obviously when I rip that velcrow apart
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and put you in your your createit's that much more of a bigger deal
in your mind. Okay, Sowe induce calm and set and practice separation
in the normal daily routine of things. If we don't do that, then
we're gonna have problem with separation whenwe leave. Other things that can help
in a case where the dog ismaybe loose, or maybe it's an older
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dog or whatever, is using braininteractive toys. Okay, now we've talked
about brain interactive toys, so youknow, the call was one of those
for years they got They have multiplevariations of things out there now that you
can get, but these are thingsthat your dog only gets when you leave,
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okay, and multiple things. Sodon't just go get a call and
say, yeah, I put peanutbutter in the cong and after about three
days that wasn't a big deal anymore. Well, yeah, it wouldn't be
a big deal to you. Afterthree days, it's not going to be
a big deal to your dog.So you need four or five of these
different types of puzzle type toys ifyou have a dog that really has separation
issues when you leave and you justwon't reach, you just won't use the
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crate because the crate adds issues.So long story short, that helps in
cases like that. So in caseslike that, when we leave, it's
still if you have a remote collar, you're your best bet is you walk
out in the car, you goout to your car, you might even
start the car, but you're reallystanding outside the door of the house or
the window of the house and listeningto the barking. Then the remote collar
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helps with that. But what alsohelps in cases like that, along with
the puzzle toys and one of thenew things I've seen and you might have
talked you might have heard me talkabout on the episode where you talked about
fancy Christmas gifts and stuff dog issomething called the furbo. Okay. Now,
the furbo is a camera that youcan monitor your dog with through an
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app on your phone, and youcan actually talk to them, okay,
and you can actually press a buttonon there that shoots out a piece of
their dog food or a treat orwhatever. Oh wow, So let's say
we have this scene where we walkout the door, the dog is loose
in the apartment, stands at thedoor for ten minutes to bark. Okay,
Well, immediately when I walk outthe door, I'm gonna activate the
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I'm gonna have my Furbo and I'mgonna activate the app on my phone,
and the dog will every time Iwalk out. Instead of just letting the
dogs stand at the door and barkto see where I went, I would
activate something on my ferbo. MaybeI hit the beep or whatever, okay,
or maybe I hit the button thatdispenses a treat, or maybe I
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have one of those treat dispensers orautomatic feeders that runs on an app or
runs on a timer or whatever.And so I'm doing instead of the dog
directing his brain on the door andthat in his mind the fact that I
might just be on the other sideof the door, so if he barks
enough, I'll come back through thedoor. Now I want to redirect the
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brain away from the door. Soby having something remotely operated like that,
I can do that. Now he'sat the door, He's like, what's
the noise? Oh? I knowthat furbo thing because Mom or Dad has
shot me a treat out of thatbefore talk to me, and then the
treat shot out, so I hearit over there. Now I'm going to
go check the furbo. Okay.So what happens A couple times. In
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cases like that, as soon asthe dog barks, that's when. As
soon as I hear him stop barking, even if it's just to take a
breath, that's when I hit thebeat. So the stop barking hits the
beep on the fur bough, thetreat shoots out. Okay, So what
I've done is I'm now training thedog's brain that, instead of standing at
the door waiting for me to comeback through, maybe head the other direction,
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head in the other room and redirectyour brain on things. Okay,
Now the ferbo doesn't respond to himif he's barking, right, all right,
And if I can keep that brainoccupied for five ten minutes, they've
completely forgotten about me leaving the door. Okay, if it's you know,
there's there's plenty of these fancy feedersout there that operate on a time schedule,
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same thing. So that may bea moment where you put a few
treats in your timed feeder. Youknow, you walk out the door every
day at work for work at sevenforty five or whatever time, So at
seven forty seven is when the treatdoor opens. And so now me leaving
becomes a positive thing. Right,not the me coming back, but the
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me leaving becomes a positive say thing. So we're redirecting all that energy and
refocusing your dog's brain on a differentactivity when you leave. But basically none
of this occurs, okay unless youget the basic foundation of training and understanding
and in your dog, because that'swhat the confidence your dog has to have.
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Otherwise none of this other redirection stuffworks. So those are things that's
where you stub whether it's a newdog you adopted or a new puppy,
both of the as soon as youget them in there, that's when we
start training to establish what the whatthe routine is, who's in charge of
this pack, and then that typeof confidence a lot of time avoids all
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these problems to begin with, andyou can certainly head all that off with
the training. And you guys cando that at the Edgefield Animal Care Center.
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