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April 2, 2024 • 17 mins
The Dog Professor, Robb Lust from the Edgefield Animal Care Center, and his team, gets asked a lot of questions about training, some more common than others. This episode explores some of the most common ones and Robb provides answers.
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It is time for the Dog Professorpodcast. A Dog Professor Rob luston studio
with me, and I'll tell youWe've got a lot to talk about today
because you get questions all the timeabout what you have done your entire life,
and that is training. And youprobably get the hey, why i've
seen you out and you're here Rob, what about this and this situation with

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my dog? Those common questions abouttraining that you get all the time.
Now, those those questions I'm I'mokay with. That's a trainer. I
don't mind, you know, helpingpeople out or things like that with you
know, out and about I'm infact, you can ask my wife.
She's like, oh my god,here he goes, here he goes.
Yeah. But the questions, thequestions I want to talk about today,

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the common ones I get as atrainer are usually like when people come in
to see me about training, orany of our trainers about training, and
the misconceptions that they have of what'sactually going to occur with the training.
Okay, common question when when peoplecome in they drop their dog off for

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one of the programs you know,and and so forth and so on,
or we're in the evaluation and they'retalking about dropping a dog off for a
program or two week program where theycome and stay with us and they're trained
while they stay with us. Thecommon question, this is a legitimate question
a lot of owners have, won'tmy dog forget about me? H?
Or will they miss me? Yeah? Okay, And that's a that's a

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legitimate question. And the answer tothat is, no, they're not going
to forget about you. Number one. Will they miss you? Yeah?
And here's why. Okay, theirwhole environment is changing, their whole everyday
routine that they're used to, ischanging. The people around them for the

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next couple of weeks is changing.So yes, they will miss you.
Normally dogs go through a little separationfor the first twenty four or forty eight
hours. But the problem is isowners don't give their dogs credit for being
very adaptable. Okay, And usuallya dog will adapt to everything and everyone

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in their new environment within a coupledays. And that actually is what we
count on, training wise to occur, because then they're looking. That role
opens up for our trainer to stepin and become that dog's leader, and
that helps with the training situation.Okay, okay, It's very much the

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same as when you take your childto kindergarten and leave, and now the
teacher steps into the role that youjust vacated for a little bit, and
your child gloms onto the teacher andstarts to learn from the teacher. So,
yes, they will miss you.Yes they forget about you after a
little bit, but not forget aboutyou forever, because the moment you come

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to pick them up from training,they instantly remember all the things they got
away with you with you before youdrop them off. The whole reason you
brought them to training was because ofall the bad behavior they were allowed to
get away with with you when youdrop them off. So of course when

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you come to pick them up,you are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Okay, And they go, allright, I'm done with that guy.
I'm going to go back home andget everything squared away back to the
way I had it in control before, okay. And that is the reason
right there. And we count onthat behavior also because that's a moment for

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you as the owner to start yourprocess of learning how to step into the
role that now we are vacating.And now if you want the behavior that
the good behavior that we worked on, your dog with to continue, you
have to step into that role andthat's what we teach you how to do.
So it's very dependent upon you atthat point in time, right,
okay. But dogs will not forgetyou, Okay. They are adaptable situation

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situation, minute by minute. Theyare able to change much more so than
people are. Okay. It ismuch harder on the people when the dog
is away than it is ever onthe on the dog nine times out of
ten. Okay. The other questionquestion I get, and this usually occurs
once people start getting involved in trainingand they say, well, training turn

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him into a robot? I mean, is he just gonna have no personality?
I want him to have personality?And uh, And you know that's
another legitimate question. And the ideawith it is is we are going to
change your dog's behavior. Yes weare, okay, otherwise you wouldn't be

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here right at this moment in timeto have training. Will your dog learn
what his daily responsibilities are? Yes, just like you do. Okay.
Will he learn that there's rewards andconsequences with the decision he makes within those
daily responsibilities and jobs he has todo? Yes he will, Okay,

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So he's no more a robot thanyou are when you go through your normal
day, right, all right,But the point is, now your dog
has expectations. He's learned that weexpect certain behaviors from him, and if
he goes home and you don't expectthose same certain behaviors, then no,
he's not going to be a robotat all. He's going to go back

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to the exact same way he wasbefore you came in. So the robot
behavior that people have in mind whenthey say robot behavior, they think of
a dog that's just following commands,doing well, sitting still, being calm,
letting people pet him on the headwithout jumping on somebody, so forth,
and so on. Anything that's notin that realm, you know,

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where the dog's going crazy like itwas before. They get this impression that
it's a robot. Right, it'snot having any fun. No, he's
just grown up. Okay, rememberwhen you started kindergarten compared to when you
graduated high school, you were differentfrom the end. Okay, we're a
robot. No, you knew youhad different things you had to accomplish.
So that's the same thing. Sobeyond that point, along with that question,

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people are like, well, whencan he have any fun? That's
the one that really gets gets mygoat a little bit. Yeah, okay,
and it's because of this, Okay, they when the owner says that,
they instantly have this impression that whenyou're working with your dog, your
dog is not having any fun becausewe equate it to our work day.

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Okay, ninety eight percent of theowners when they go to work, they're
not having any fun. Yeah,okay, So if a dog is forced
to work and do some jobs,they figure that's not any fun. But
what they don't realize is that whenyou are working your dog, you're spending
ninety percent more time with your dogone on one than you were before when

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you just when you came in tome and said, I can't even stand
to be around him. He's socrazy. He's barking, jumping, pulling,
doing all this stuff. I justdon't even want to be around him.
Okay, Well, now when you'reworking with him, you're around him
ninety percent more, right, Soin your dog's mind, is that a
positive or a negative? And you'relearning to communicate it's obviously a positive.

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One on one time with you isa reward for your dog. It's why
they were being crazy before, becausethat crazy brought them some sort of response
from you, whether it's you yellingat them or them getting what they want
by you putting them out in thefence yard or whatever. So now we're
controlling that interaction the dog. We'rehaving that one on one interaction. I'm
getting something from it. The dogis definitely getting something from it. So

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how you define fun is relative inthat case. Okay, Yes, your
dog can still go out and play, all right. Yes your dog can
do what you considered was fun forthe dog before. Okay, but that's
not an excuse for the dog togo back to the negative behaviors that they
had before. All Right. Iwould like to go out and maybe drive

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my car fast once in a while. It's fun, okay. But just
because I consider it fun doesn't meanI don't still have to play within the
agreed upon rules and speed limits andeverything else. Okay. So fun is
a relative term. And if you'regoing through training or have gone through training,
and you're that owner that thinks,look, I feel guilty because I'm

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making him work and he's not havingany fun, then you're mistaken, okay,
And then you're not in the rightframe of mind to continue to make
help your dog improve with this,all right. No dog likes to do
the work in the beginning, okay, just like people, all right.
But as they start to realize thatthat's one on one time with you,

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When they do what you want,they get praise and positive response and everything
else. Pretty soon the dog realizes, man, this is the easiest money
I can make in a day's timeis do what they want me to do.
Okay, So it is a positiveexperience all the way around. So
it's never turned the dog into arobot. Don't let him have any fun

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type of thing. There are trainersthat do that to dogs, Okay.
They don't concentrate on the balance betweenpraise and correction, and they certainly don't
teach the owners that balance between praiseand correction, and those are bad trainers.
Okay. There has to be thatbalance, and when there's that balance,
your dog gets a lot out ofthe training aspect of things, and

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so do you in that case.Next question is if you're training him.
If you're training him, how willhe listen to me? Okay, and
that goes back to what we've justtalked about a minute ago. He won't
listen to you the first time youcome to pick him up. In fact,
he'll look at you and he'll lookback at me or one of our

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trainers, and he'll give us thebiggest smirk. If a dog can smirk,
that's possible, because he says,now my mom is here or now
my dad is here, and I'mnot gonna have to work for you.
If he could, if he hadthumbs, he'd stick them on either side
of his head and stick out histongue at us. All right, that's
what they do, that's what theyexpect, all right. So it's at

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that moment owners have to make thatdecision. Actually, I would like you
to make that decision before you dropthe dog off, okay, because once
that decision's made, it is thatmuch easier to carry that home. The
easiest moment you're going to have tostep into a new role with your dog

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is the moment we hand you theleash when you come to pick them up
from training. That's your moment toshine or to go back to way it
was before. Now most owners,in their defense, at that moment,
don't know anything. So they're nervous. They're nervous, they're gonna break something
or ruin something. Okay, I'mgoing to hear to tell you right now,
you're not going to ruin anything.You're just in a test at that

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moment with the dog. They're goingto see how you're going to respond.
Will you respond the same way beforewhere we accidentally may be rewarded the bad
behavior that was bothering us, orare you going to respond like my teachers
were the last two weeks that I'vebeen in this school, And that's our
job as trainers, a good trainer, that's their job to teach you.

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Okay, here's what you're going tosee. Here's what your response needs to
be in this situations, whether it'spraise or correction. Here's the process to
build yourself up in your dog's eyesand in their mind, in the hierarchy
within the house, to take therole that we've just opened up for you.
You take that chair or the dogwill period. That's how it goes.

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So, yes, they will rememberyou, Yes they will learn to
listen to you, But that,my friends, is totally dependent on what
your attitude is when it comes toyour time in the training. In cases
like that, the last one,but not the least one and the one
to get right off on the wrongfoot with your trainer is to say this,

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are you going to be mean tohim? Or I don't want it
to be mean to him? Andthey equate the word mean or they equate
the mean behavior the negative behavior withtraining. Yeah, okay, that's the
wrong way to get on with thetrainer right off the Okay, mean is
not something that good trainers do.Mean is a is a term that people

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apply to something that in their mindthey consider to be mean. Okay,
so define mean, all right.We in our training recreate dog behavior,
basically behavior that is recognizable to adog because they've been through it before with

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other dogs in their litter or ortheir mother or father or whatever as they
were growing up. Dog behavior isthis, and we've said it before.
If you've ever seen a mother withpups, pups learn right off the bat
where what the rules are within thepack because mom draws lines. Okay,
when a pup's ripping around and bitingand doing all kinds of stuff that they're

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not supposed to, maybe they've crossedthe line with mom, okay, or
they're getting close to where that lineis. They don't know the line because
they haven't been taught the line yet. Mom teaches the line. How does
mom teach the line? She liftsher lip and she growls okay, and
the pup doesn't know what that's allabout yet, you know, pup looks
and goes, I don't even knowwhat that what she's doing that for whatever,

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So goes back to doing whatever broughtmom's growl out, whatever brought that
lift of the lip out. Theykeep going. They cross the line.
Mom bites them quick to the pointnobody injured. Puppy cries like they're dying.
Okay, all drama all the time. Okay, But what the puppy
learned right there was there was aline that they crossed. They had that

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moment where they could choose to staybehind the line or they could choose to
cross the line. And they learnedvery quickly what happens when you stay on
one side or the other. That'swhat training is about, okay, teaching
people to do what their dog isexpecting them to do. All right,
And if you consider putting a leashon your dog or collar mean because the

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dog pulls and chokes themselves to deathor whatever, then you're gonna have trouble
because that is that is a wayfor you to keep a student in the
classroom. Okay. So when peoplesay the word mean to us as trainers,
it does quite offend us quite abit because it it gives us the
impression that number one, you don'tunderstand what's what's going on with the training.

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So it's our job to teach you. No problem. We can,
we can, we can explain itto you, or maybe we didn't explain
it to you well enough in thebeginning. But in a most trainer's hearts,
I know in my heart and inmost trainer's hearts, we know that
if somebody doesn't step up and becomethis dog's leader that's here with us now,
the chances are good, probably ninetypercent of the time, that that

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dog will end up in a rescueor in a shelter because of the owner's
idea and definition of what mean isright. Okay, So we try to
save that dog at that moment intime. That's what a trainer thinks about,
okay. And if it means beinga disciplinarian, if in a fair

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way, if it means being sternsometimes a stern voice, or using a
leash or a collar or whatever ittakes to help make this dog become a
well behaved dog so they don't endup in that fate. Then I guess
we're me okay, but that's whatwe have. That's how we look at

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it, Okay. When it comesto training and stuff. So when you're
going into training or you're talking toa trainer or anything like that, it's
important for you to think about thesequestions because these are common and they're legitimate
in the majority of time, andowners just don't know when they ask these
questions until a good trainer talks tothem about it and explains what goes on.

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In that case, that's good stuff. Tell everybody if they're interested in
learning more about the training, thatyou guys do an opportunity to sit down
and ask questions that you have abouttraining, what you have about your animal,
or what have you. They cancertainly sit down with you guys in
chat tell them how to do that. You can call us at Edgefield Animal

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Care Center if you're in this CentralOhio area easiest way to find out all
about us. Edgefield Animal Care Centeris a full service veterinary hospital, boarding,
grooming, training, just about everythingyou need for your pet. Easiest
to get all our information or getin contact with us is get on our
website. It's Edgefieldanimalcare dot com.Great stuff. And if you like what

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