January 30, 2025 • 39 mins
Gregg Bell is back from his time away, and the duo get the show rolling w/ headlines, before they dive into the discussion surrounding Geno Smith as the Las Vegas Raiders have hired Pete Carroll as their next head coach. We replay audio of Luke Johnson, who covers the New Orleans Saints for NOLA.com, as he talked about Klint Kubiak having a solid role as an Offensive Coordinator but isn't sure that he has a personality to be a head coach.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What else I had to do for five hours on
a plane. Right, my wife was watching My wife was
watching Quiz Girl movie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Have you heard of that?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
As you haven't heard of Yeah, no, I haven't heard
a lot. I haven't heard of quiz Girl.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
No, some some Asian woman comedian is the lead and
it's it's her name is gaming against an a like
Sandra to play on where Sandro is the supporting actress, Aquafina.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thank you, Yeah, I've heard of her. She's a yeah.
Oh yeah, she's a rapper. That's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, yeah, thank you. Aquafina is the star, although she
plays more the straight and since Sandra Oh of crazy
rich Asians and Ugly Betty and Fame was the comedian
in the movie, as it turned out, kind of flipped
the script there. But yeah, my wife watched that while
I was banging out the rest of my story on
(00:50):
Gino Smith's future with the Seahawks. We'll talk about that
Cracking have officially done what was becoming obvious, what we
talked to Mike Benton about. We talked a lot of
people with the Cracking around the team about they've given
up on veteran goaltender Philip Grubauer, they waived him. We'll
talk about what that means. What are the Mariners doing
next to next and next to nothing? Besides that, what
are they doing now? With two weeks to the day, Chris,
(01:12):
before pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Peoria, Arizona.
Eleven o'clock, we'll talk to our old friend Luke Arkins Baseball,
Anelagics guy, writer for the Mariners Consiglia Air newsletter, about
where the team is right now beside the drift.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I guess what do you may think? That's where it is?
Eleven thirty one.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Reback your tex four nine four or five one on
telemo texts and I missed the telemore do text line.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
For the last five days.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's been some Pineapple pizza discussions. Oh pineap yes or no.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
There are a lot although our guys, oh me absolutely,
I am too. Travis was one of our guys. You
know Travis. Yeah, he said, kid this you know pizza?
You don't You don't do that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He was one of the few that were like, now,
but anyone else people with potatoes on pizza?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He lost me. There they do.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I would not usually with white sauce but yeah, potatoes,
this gourmet pizza boom, and yeah, there's all kinds of
mod pizza. I didn't get anything off a truck under
the mod pizzas.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
We also discussed the championships. You know what was more
surprising the commander's getting smoked or the chiefs doing what
they usually do.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The commanders just gave it. How many more mistakes could
they possibly have made?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well? I told you, Saquan scared me, and boy, he
could have ran for three hundred yards. Man, he could have.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But if they still if he could have done that,
and they still would have been in the game, if
they hadn't turned it over in so many fo yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Twenty eight points, they would have lost to the Giants
that day. But alone the Eagles, it says a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, the Bills on the top of a lot of
other things. Josh Allen got the first down. I don't
know how all that God comed up. I we talked
about that too, Chasing the analytics and chasing points, going
for two as early as they did, really bit Sean
McDermott and the Bills. Those are points they end up
chae in the entire game, and then they losing that
(03:02):
they were down when they should have been tied.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Which catch was harder, you know, Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Kincaid's was just a complete prayer, and there was also
People don't realize that it's talking about a game in
Arrowhead Stadium in the winter, even when there's no wind.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There's wind in Arrowhead. It's built differently. It's on a plane.
Everything's on a plane in Missouri and Kansas.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But it's not in downtown Kansas City. It's out off
of Interstate seventy and it's on this plateau. And when
you walk out of your car and walk into Arrowhead
Stadium from the parking lot, there's.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Nothing to block the wind from Arrowhead Stadium to about
the Rocky Mountains. So even in the winter, there is
a win. And that could what I was watching it live.
I said, well that anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It was a prayer of a throw anyway, But it
wouldn't have surprised me if Dalton Kincaid thought the ball
was gonna land on inside his hands and a wind
gust blew it outside his hands, it would.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Not surprise me. He's not gonna say that because that
would sound terrible. When Bill's field I'd be like, hey,
I feel I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
He might not even know, but I can tell you
that being in that stadium many times there's a win
when there's even not win.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And I'm not making excuses for him.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But that was a prayer for play anyway, it would
have been a remarkable Cats under the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Been. Yeah, he should have made it.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But I'm just telling you that's you aren't in a dome,
which is I heard in a whole discussion on that too.
Should we play all conference title games in a dome?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Nah, you gotta play teams are in their home field,
advantage and weather, and yeah, let's not. Let's let's keep
it the way it is. It's our official. Not let
the Chiefs be so dominant.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh, Chief's pretty good. They have something to do with
that too, All right, headlines Roger by Prospery. Course I
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Speaker 2 (05:04):
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Speaker 1 (05:07):
Like Choos Chill, Philip Grubauer allowed five goals on twenty
two shots against lovely Anaheim, and a day later the
Kracking waved him. They waved him with the designation that
they intend to assign him to minor league Coachella Valley.
Player of his experience and stature may not be going there,
but those contractual salary kept reasons for that won't be
talking to a minute. Grubauer five point fifteen and one
(05:30):
in his starts. He's got twenty one starts, the court
has thirty two. Joey to Cord by far the league
goalie for goaltender Ford to the Cracking. Grubauer is fifty
thirty NHL and goals against fifty fourth in save percentage.
Anaheim loss was his first in eight games NFL teams
have until NHL teams have until today to claiming off waivers.
I guess NFIL team could if they wanted to too.
(05:53):
Now is gonna claim that contract at five point nine
million dollars this year for a guy who's got a
goals against average it's in the five high threes. So
if he doesn't clear. If he does clear waivers, the
Crack and have the option of sending Gubauer to minor
league Cold chill A Valley. They could keep him around
the organization through the end of the Stanley Cup playoffs
and then they could buy out the final two years
of his contract. He's making, as I said, five point
(06:16):
nine million a year, way too much to back up
the clear league goaltender. Joey the Cord is probably going
to get the starts now until the Nation's Cup break
here in a couple of weeks, Crack and play a
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Speaker 2 (06:31):
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Speaker 1 (06:34):
Mentioned Mariner's pitchers and catchers report two weeks from today
We'll talk to our man, Luke Arkins about what he
thinks of the Mariners should have done, didn't do, and
what they're gonna do now at what?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
First base, third base, every base, every base man, home base. Hey, Luke,
We're gonna let you talk for the next twenty minutes
about everything.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Where do you want to start the floor? Is your
fourne four five one? What would you ask a Mariner's insider?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I'll hope you ask question because I'm a steal it. Yeah,
put on the text line four nine four to five one.
What do you want to know? What would you ask?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
What would you comment on about the Mariners to Luke
Arkins At eleven o'clock, Marrin's top minor league team, the
Tacoma Rnears, now announced that they're going to have Triple
A Baseball's first women lead broadcaster this season.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Riley pay is.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
The Mariner's new Raynier excuse me, new radio broadcaster, replacing
the retired Mike Kurto in Tacoma.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Boy was Mike Kurto? Good at what he did?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
The Washingtonskies men's basketball team one and eight Big Ten
play next play on Saturday morning at Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right here on your home with Huskies ninety three point
three kids rf them.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Washington State's men's teams five and four in the West
Coast Conference on a two game losing streak, played a
night at Pacific. You remember Pacific came in with like
a twenty game road losing streak and then beat the
Koogs and Pullman this month earlier.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Chris saw this.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm sure the NBA commissioner d Adam Silver mentioned on
The Dan Patrick Show yesterday he likes the idea of
a forty.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Minute game with ten minute quarters. Chris in his eyes, already.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
No, that'll I'm fine with you are that'll cut down,
you know, the big scoring.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I don't mind it. Don't know how the players feel,
but sounded like me. I think people like one thirty nine. Oh,
I don't mind it either.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But pinball international basketball plays forty minutes. Of course, we
know that forty minutes in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And martyr and harder to guard these guys, man, these dudes, like,
what do you do with wimby seven to five?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
How do you stop that? Yeah, he wants to put
up fifty. What are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You don't have a seven footer that can play defense
and garter. It's it's getting out of hand, all right.
Stop having babies and having these kids play basketball. Go
play a different sport because it's not fun over here.
It's tasking someone to guard Kevin Durant that is seven
feet and has a handle of Chris Paul. What are
you supposed to do with that? Gordon fool what? He
can do everything? He's too good? You double team will
(08:52):
he finds the open guy. Players in the NBA don't
miss wide open shots like that. So this is just
stop having babies and play another sport.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
How do we get from forty eight to forty minute
games to stop having babies?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I'm not sure. The talent is just too elite.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Let's just yes, just you just at this point, there's
just there has to be a band on who can
play in the league.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I feel, well, that's a good idea. They gotta do something.
Chris A living Man, I don't know. I don't even
lockdown regime. I don't have any babies and quick playing.
Think about it, man, we're only in twenty twenty five
and twenty fifty. There's gonna be someone that's probably eight
feet tall and just unstopped. There'll be seven three point guards,
and that's gonna be like, what are you supposed to
do with that? You already can't touch them because that's
(09:36):
a foul, and now you're trying to guard it. I
just don't see how this ends.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, by then they're gonna be averaging one hundred and
ninety points a game because guys are just gonna be
scoring a will.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You can't play defense, it's too hard.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We'll play pick up basketball and dude, you know, the
slightest brush foul.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Isn't what the NBA is.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I don't know how we got out of such a
forty eight forty eight minute game, forty because Adam sober once.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The reason is too window for TV. People will say
they don't play defense, Well, you know what, the people
that they are guarding are elite.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
They're not your average Joe. The shots that they're making
are ridiculous. Steph Curry is exhibit example A one whatever
you want to call it. Dude can shoot from anywhere,
has to handle what are you supposed to do your
double team? And he still gets up a shot. He's incredible.
That's why I said stop having kids again.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Not sure have forty eight min a game the forty
nine game. Got to stop having kids. But Chris got there.
That's got to him.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Cayton Carks, speaking of basketball, decided she's going to skip
the NBA All Star three point Contests in San Francisco
next month. She wants to her first pro three point
contest to be at the w NBA All Star Game.
It's gonna be this summer at It is cool because
the reason why is the WNBA All Star Game is
going to be at her home arena, at the Inn
at an Appolis.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
She saw the future. I see her do your thing, Michael.
That increasing the marketability and visibility of the women's game.
Good for her.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'm sure the NBA was probably going throw a lot
of money at her. Tude a team with Steph Kurr
or somebody like they do.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And yeah, it was fun when they did it last season,
but I understand what's better than the game. Whatever the
game was around Robin Pick. It's so hard to get.
It's just I can't imagine they're having babies that too.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Former WSU Cougars and last season Miami Hurricanes quarterback cam
Ward when the Manning Award is the nation's top college quarterback.
Adding fuel to the fire of rumors that he may
be the number one pick in this Springs draft.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Someone's communist Christian. I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You want to limit the number of children somebody has,
and you want to stop the best.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Player the NBA. You're limited to one child per NBA athlete.
There's there's a name for that. It's called nineteen nineties,
nineteen eighties communist China.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We're going to change things around here in the NBA.
I'm your new commissioner, mister kid.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, if you're over seven feet you have to play center,
you cannot shoot a three.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And if your parents are above six feet at all,
either one of them, you can only have one baby.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That's a hell of a platform. Chris, how long will
I last? Not a day? It depends where you are.
I guess you're fired immediately. We're not going to hire you.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Washington Husky's linebacker Carson Bruner, Washington State Cougar's wide receiver
Kyle Wims. They're going to play to night in the
East West Shrine Bowl College All Star Game in Arlington, Texas.
They moved that from the West coast to the Jerry
World outside Dallas.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Five PM. It's gonna be on NFL Network TV. Have
you seen that now the All Star Games?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Some guys they're even the Senior Bowl after one not
one good practice, one good drill.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Have you seen this? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It reminds me of in track and field if you have,
for instance, let's say Greg, you're doing the long jump
and there's ten competitors.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Greg, you jump twenty four feet. Do you really need
to jump the rest of the day? Probably not. You
jump twenty four feet, You're done.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So I understand why players are having a great play
and like, I'm good, But then again, are you really
It's a little different when it comes to football.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
One good play doesn't just select to fire Grady the
league yet exactly, that's the biggest point. You're not in
the league. You're trying to get there. I get your confident,
and you might have blown up a tackle. You see that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, Marshall outside linebacker Mike Green, so something is in
the top five of that Dresher in this draft absolutely
trucked a poor offense.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think he was from North Texa. I love how
you put it, poor offensive.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was the guy was setting up, but he was
gonna get an outside speed move. And this Mike Green
guy just absolutely told rode him.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean like he wasn't ready. He wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
He thought it was gonna be outside move he had,
which is still bad.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Technique for an offensive tackle to his feet weren't.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
He was all out of whack and off balance and
he absolutely got turnpiked. I mean it was crazy. And
so Mike Green after that drill says, I'm done. I'm
going home that drill.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Buddy.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, see if I'm in the NFL GM a personnel guy. Okay, great,
I like your edge dressing, goes. I don't like your competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, you have a conversation with him. Absolutely, you'd say,
what the hell did you leave to senior boll for?
Are you afraid to compete?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You don't like elite competition? What about consistency?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That's Pete Carroll's type of guy right there. Bring him in,
have a conversation. Hey, but why'd you quit on that drill?
And then they draft him? That was our type of guy.
You know, we talked to him.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
He was great. That's a pe ker guy.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Right, they're telling you, Mike greening the Raiders. He's calling
Chris is Colin right now, man, Yeah, that's become the
new trend now. They say it's because you don't want
to get injured, but it's some of it's to add intrigue.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And they'll do the same thing at the combine.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
They'll show up to the combine, they'll do their interviews,
get them medicals free and be done.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Maybe yeah if that maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
If you're alignment, throw up two, five, twenty five thirty
times and.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Then walk away. Pretty impressive there, Yeah, I mean that's
what they do now.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And anyway, yeah, I used to if I was a
GM a personnel guy, but I'd like to see a
little more competition and stick to what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But I guess those are old school trades.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
On a serious note, I found this out why I
was flying from Detroit to Seattle last night and a
little jarring to be on an airplane learning mess. Fourteen
skaters or board the American Airlines planets slanded into an
Army Apache helicopter and into the Potomac River last night
as it was about the land at Reagan Airport just
outside Washington.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
DC.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Authority's fear that the accident killed all sixty four people,
including the fourteen skaters who were in Wichitac, Kansas for
the National Figure Skating Championships and follow on camps afterwards.
The commute jet was flying from Wichitak, Kansas to d C,
and all the people board the plane and three Army
service members the board the helicopter are believed to have died. Yeah,
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that was That's scary. That's just a busy, busy airspace
around Washington, DC, the Pentagon, Army installations and whatnot. Our
hearts go out to all of those affected by that.
What does Pete Carroll's return to the NFL to coach
the Raiders have to do with Gino Smith's contract in
his future with the Seahawks. Every relationship, it really runs deep,
(15:55):
deeper than a normal coach quarterback partnership. I want to
explain why and what I saw Gino Smith and Pete
Carroll were together.
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Clint Kobiak is the new offensive coordinator for the Seahawks,
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which means Geno Smith is going to learn a whole
new offense yet again. Third offensive coordinator in three seasons.
And yeah, I hear some of you already saying, wait
a minute, are you assuming Gino Smith is going to
be in Seattle? Yes, I am. I think that's going
to happen. And we'll talk about his contract here in
the second. What is Pete care returning the NFL to
coach the Raiders on Friday have to do with all this? Well,
(18:02):
they have a deep, deep relationship. Even vict Tafer in
Las Vegas knows about this. He was the longtime Raiders
beat right, former Raiders beat colleague of mine now at
the Athletic down in Las Vegas, and he was on
with us on Friday right after Pete Carroll got hired.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
This is what he said.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The Raiders view Gino Smith's situation in relationship to Smith's
relationship with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
For sure. I think if the price is right, I mean,
I'm not sure we will take him in the trade
now obviously gonna get a new deal. But I think
you said they're definitely close. I think you know, it's
a while for good football left time on what his
future is there in Seattle if they forgive him long term.
But clearly he's another guy that put on the list
of guys that are gonna look at in this process.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's vict tayfor the Athletic with us on our show
on Friday, and he says, I don't know what his
price is, and that's the magic question. His price right
now is scheduled to be to Seattle forty four and
a half million dollars in cap charge. Now he's going
to get about half that a little more in cash
for the year. It's the final year of his contract.
He's got sixteen million dollars due to him guaranteed on
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March sixteenth, the fifth.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Day of the league year. If he's on the Seahawks Roshd,
they pay that.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
If they traded him before then, the acquiring team, of
course would pay that, and the acquiring team would gain
the forty four million to excuse me, the thirty million
dollar cap charge because the Seahawks would absorb thirteen or
so million of that. So that's where it stands. If
you cut him or trade him, you would save thirty
one million dollars against the cap this year, have a
thirteen million dollar cap hit, a dead cap hit. If
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he's released, he could sign a course as a free
agent with anyone. If a team trades for him, then
they assumed that contract. I wrote about this in the
News Tribune this morning. Go to the News Tribune dot
com to find the story. And it's not just as
convenience as the reason why people are linking Gino Smith
and Pete Carroll if you remember, I don't know if
(19:55):
you do, among everything else you saw, and we're thinking
about when the Seahawks season ended against the on January fifth,
when Geno Smith got his four million dollars an additional
incentive bonuses. That day after the game, we were asking
about his outlook on the Seahawks going forward after this
non playoff season, even though it was ten wins, seven losses,
Smith that I'm telling you, man, this team is heading
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in the right direction. The team is on its way,
that's with or without me, and those of us have
covered a team for day or two kind of looked
at each other as he said it in that room
off the locker room in Englewood, and I thought, without me,
he obviously had an agenda by putting that in there.
Those words came to mind when Pete Carroll got hired
by the Raiders, because make the mistake. Geno Smith went
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out of his way after that final game to say,
and leading into it about to say how much he
appreciated Mike McDonald, his messaging, his consistency. He also mentioned
McDonald's support for him when he was throwing fifteen interceptions
and leading the league with red zone interceptions this season,
and how genuine a guy he is. But is Geno
Smith Revere Pete Carroll? Let's review why if you've forgotten
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Gino Smith had seven consecutive years of one year deals
at minimum deal minimum salary just over a million dollars,
which sounds like a lot of money to you and
me because it is.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But in the.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
NFL that's as low as you can get for a veteran,
and you have no guarantee of being anywhere after that season,
especially because you're not playing at all. So he went
seven consecutive years not knowing where the next paycheck of
the following season was going to come from, or even
where he was going to play, if he was going
to play in the league. Seven consecutive seasons from the
Jets kaoing him. His teammate literally Ko and him and
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jaw and they've given up on him in twenty fifteen,
all the way through twenty twenty two, up to twenty
twenty two, that's where he was. Seven consecutive one year deals.
The Seahawks trade Russell Wilson Geno Smith. Pete Carroll decided
from not from the first game, from the first practice
of the first mini camp after they traded Russell Wilson,
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that Gino Smith was starter. Yeah, they said Drew Locke
was in competition with him. Chris and I saw first
hand there was no competition in that trading camp. It
was Gino Smith. Why because Pete Carroll loves him, and
he loved the fact that the locker room loved him.
The locker room gained a lot of appreciation for Gino
Smith for how he was passing out wisdom, counseling players, developing,
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digesting the playbook, being a locker room leader while not
playing a snap some seasons behind.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Russell Wilson and.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Carol never forgot that, and he rewarded him by making
him the starter from practice one after they traded Russell Wilson.
Smith rewarded Carol with the greatest season of his career,
his first playoffs start, his first Pro Bowl, setting fourteen records,
breaking three of Russell Wilson's records, and then the Seahawks
rewarded him in turn with a new three year, seventy
five million dollars deal that's coming up at the end
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of this year. That's how Gino Smith got to where
he is today. He wouldn't even be in a multi
year situation with seventy Do you know, Chris, that Gino
Smith has been in the league for twelve years now.
He has made sixty five million dollars in those twelve
years cash. Do you know how much of that has
been with the Seahawks. He's played for the Jets, the Giants,
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the Chargers. In the Seahawks, those four teams, he's got
contracts from all of them over twelve years. How much
of the sixty five millions he made from the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I would say a lot of it is with the Seahawks.
Sixty of the sixty five million.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, he didn't pan out as a first round pick,
so they heab game only a million dollars and then
he's been a.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Backup seven consecutive one man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Surprised, right, sixty of the sixty five million, fifty of
those sixty.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Million in the last two years, because because.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Pete Carroll made him the unequivocal starter without even a
competition with Drew Locke. So you want to talk about allegiance,
that's nobody on Planet Earth in football.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's more aligned with Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And his feelings than Pete Carroll. That's not saying that
Geno Smith's on his way to the Raiders tomorrow. I
still think, and I've said this, and I've written this,
I've been told and still think that the Seahawks are
going to redo Gino smith deal, extend it, give him
a year or two more, pass his thirty fifth, thirty
six birthdays, so that they can then chop that salary
cap charge from forty four and a half million dollars
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down into the twenties or thirty million dollar range. Spread
it over a couple of years and buy more players
and especially lineman with the ten million or so you'd save.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
In cap charge. That's I think going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But hey, just when we heard Mike McDonald's say we
love Gino we want them to be our starting quarterback
on January seventh, they said they loved Russell Wilson until
they traded him. And if the Raiders gave him some
kind of hall, may be stupid to but if the
Raiders gave him some kind of hall, even close to
what the Broncos did to blow Pete Carroll and John
Schneider's doors off bomb, there you go. That's what That's
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what could happen. And you don't think the Seahawks would
love to have a first round pick or a second
round pick to get rid of the forty four and
a half million do Now the question would still be
who's your quarterback after Gino Smith? But suffice to say
that there is no coach, none in the league that
Gino Smith appreciates more than Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And then they saw this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
My son is an Instagram guy saw this on Friday,
right after the Raiders announced or leaked the news came
leaked out that the Raiders are about to sign Pete Carroll.
Gino Smith reposted whatever this means? Reposted on his Instagram story,
posting from twenty twenty of him and Pete Carroll, a
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picture of him and Pete Carroll and then also a
picture of him throwing over the caption how long should
I stay dedicated? How long till opportunity meets preparation? That's
a Nipsy Hustle.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Lyric. I didn't know that. My son told me that.
You know, Nipsey Hustle.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Y Isaiah Thomas's favorite guy. He had a from a
dedication song from twenty eighteen. Nipsey Hustle wrote that, And
that's what Gino Smith quoted in this post, and he
reposted in his story. And so when I was writing
in the beginning to write the story Saturday, in my
flight to Michigan, I was looking for I said, I
can't find it. My son has said that's because the
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Instagram stories go away after twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like, what are you talking about? Yeh, that's all right, Greg,
I'm catching up. Sorry a little late, Carol.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Two weeks before December twenty twenty one. I'm getting my
dates right, no excuse me. December twenty twenty three, at
the end of what became Pete Carroll's last season, two
weeks before they Seahawks fired Pete Carroll, Carrol called Smith
quote one of my all time favorite guys. Smith has said,
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I always wanted to play for Coach Carroll. I was
hoping I could get a USC offer coming out of
high school. He played in Miami, of course, and then
went to West Virginia. Didn't really happen, obviously, went to
West Virginia instead, but Carroll calls him one of his
all time favorite guys for how he has persevered. This
was in December twenty twenty three, two weeks before the
Seahawks fired Pete Carroll. Quarrel quote, I love this Jenis,
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I love his story. Pete Carroll said, He's taught me
so much, and I admire him for the way he's
handled the competitive part of this thing. He's taughtest belief
in yourself and how powerful that is. As clear of
an illustration of anybody that I can never remember. Carol
said to Smith, he's one of my all time favorite guys.
Fourteen days up to Carrol said that January ten, twenty
twenty four, the Seahawks fired Carol and they chose Snyder's
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vision over Carrols for how to move forward with the team.
Do you remember that press conference three days later in
Renting when Pete Carroll said goodbye the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Who was in front right center, Gus Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Geno Smith was there, And there was an EP photograph
that I ran with my story from Lindsey Watson who
pictured him. He's in a flannel and he is glumly
sitting in the first row watching watching Pete Carroll say
goodbye in tears.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He called it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Then three months later, Gino Smith said of the day
the Seahawks fired Pete Carroll, quote, shoot man, that day
is probably a day I'll remember for just because of
how things happened for me here. Obviously, Coach Carroll a
big influence in my career. He helped me out immensely
when I came to this organization and really helped me
thrust me into the spotlight. For me, it was kind
of just a terrible moment to see someone that I
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love so much have to part ways with him. So
this runs deep, Chris. This isn't just oh, he used
to be my coach Gino Smith owes him sixty of
the sixty five million dollars that he's made in this
league to Pete Carroll. All is this to say is
it's not a slam dunk that Gino Smith's coming back.
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If the Raiders could put something together with under Pete
Carroll that would be attractive to the Seahawks, or if
the Seahawks decided, you know what, what do you do,
Chris run Sam Howe, But you know what, we're going
to move on from Gino Smith and save this at
least thirteen or fifteen million of the forty four million.
Thirty man is what they'd say that they could happen
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to trade him on that cap fit. I don't think
it's what happened. It doesn't see what the tea leaves are.
But we've seen something more surprising here in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Exactly, so we'll see. I didn't think moving on from
Russell was the smart movie, and it kind of worked out.
Not that they won a Super Bowl, but they haven't
been a four and thirteen teen a seven win team.
They've been better than that. What's to say that John
Schneider doesn't see that Sam Howell is as bad as
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everyone's saying he is, and says, you know what, we're
going to trade you know, to the Raiders for whatever
the hall may be and start over with Sam Dowell
because he believes that he can do that again with
a backup quarterback that everyone had given up on, even
though that was kind of maybe John and Pete working
together on it now is John and Mike does Mike
McDonald view that Sam Howell could be the future. I'm
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not sure about that. I can't imagine he does. Can
you No, that's what I'm saying. I'm not sure about it.
I don't know. I haven't heard not that he's been
negative towards Sam, but I haven't.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
And like, oh, yeah, Sam is a guy that I mean,
he says all the right things, but it's nothing that
says he believes in Sam as he does with Geno.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
There's nothing that Sam Howe did that could suggest, you
know what, with a new offensive coordinator, let's put Sam
Howell in there and the offense will be exactly where
I want it to be. Yeah, I just I can't
think that's what Mike McDonald's thinking. I can't think Clint
Kubiak interviewed for this job, saying, you know what, guys,
I can win with Sam Howe.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Let's go yeah, right, you hire a new OC and
now it's Sam Howell's show. If you watched any of
his tape from last season, I know he didn't get
a lot. He was thust into the fire and that sucked.
But he didn't It didn't go wow, you know what,
Let's give this kid a shot. He didn't light it up.
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, it's anyway, it's not a fade, a complete when
you have Pete Carroll joining the Raiders all of a
sudden back in the NFL, and you know Smith's allegiance
to him. But again, most likely March sixteenth will tell.
If the Seahawks guarantee him sixteen million dollars on March
sixteenth by having him on the roster, then they're not
going to guarantee Hm sixteen million and then cut them.
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They could guarantee them sixteen million to trade them. Then again,
the trading team, the acquiring team would take on all
the financial obligations from a trade.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
We'll see, we will see.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
To say the least, the Raiders have a ton of
cap space currently right now at the ninety million dollars
depending way to do it, Max Crosby, but ninety million
dollars for the NFL team right now in cap space,
the top fifty one number based on the cap is
expected to be a two hundred and eighty million dollars
for twenty twenty fives. Someone on the text line asking
that question about the Raiders cap space the two five three,
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Thanks for.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That, abop. Next about Clint Kubiak.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Chris and Andrews talked to a Saints Bete writer on Monday,
Luke Johnson, Thank you. Luke Johnson was commenting about the
personality of Clint Kubiak and how this might not be
just a quick one or two years in the guy.
If the OC succeeds, he'd be in line for a
head coaching job. Maybe the Seahawks sends that by talking
to him, we'll find out all about that and replay
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his quotes and talk about the personality of Clint Kubiak
and what Mike McDonald's saw in the thirty seven year
old to hire him as the new play caller for
the Seahawks. Luke arkins at eleven o'clock to talk Mariners
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Speaker 2 (32:43):
The Seahawks have hired their offensive coiner after.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Three week search. It's thirty seven year old Clint Kubiak.
As you probably know by now, Kubiak was the Saints
offensive coinator this past season. So Chris and Anderson Hurst
on Monday had Luke Johnson, the New Orleans Times picky
un beat writer on to talk about Clint Kubiak in
his personality and how maybe it doesn't fit as a
head coach as I was.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Luke Johnson explained it as.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Far as being a head coach, I don't know if
that's going to ever be something that Clint does. You
guys will find out that he is. He is not
a very charismatic person at a podium great He is
incredibly dry, I really like him personally. When you're talking
about like being the face of a franchise, I think
that's that's going to be like a tough personality to sell.
(33:30):
You know, he has jokingly called himself a wet blanket before.
I don't think that like applies to his relationship with players.
The players really really seem to like him and like
his attention to detail, and you know how demanding he
is of them. I think they all respect him. But like,
I don't know if that personality is going to play
as a as a head coach, Like, I think you
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need a lot of work in that regard.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That was some of the concern that people had with
hiring a young, hotshot offensive coordinator that if he succeeds
here for a year or two, boom, he becomes a
Ben Johnson in the top head coaching candidate for everybody
and he leaves and the Seahawks would have to start
over again in a couple of years. Perhaps if Luke
Johnson and beat writers usually have a good read on
stuff like this, and that's certainly a sense if Luke
(34:16):
Johnson's right, Perhaps Mike McDonald said, well, this guy doesn't
command a room enough yet to be a head coach.
He probably thought he didn't heck before he took this job,
and now he's learning and so and his oats doing that.
But maybe on first impression he's thinking, well, this guy's
got some seasoning to do before he would ever take
over an entire team, and therefore I'm not gonna be
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too worried about him going right out the doors the
next hot shot coaching candidate. The attractiveness. Okay, so let's
talk about why what the Seahawks and Mike McDonald saw
in Kubiak. Well, Unlike Ryan Grubb, Kubiak has been an
offensive coiner calling plays in the NFL before three different teams,
three different seasons. In fact, twenty twenty one for the
(34:59):
minnesot Vikings twenty twenty two, at the end of that
disastrous Denver Broncos season, with Hackett and Russell Wilson taking
over for the first time on all that mess, they
turned the play calling duties over to Klint Kubiak, and
then this past season for the Saints, and in both
the Saints and the Vikings in twenty twenty one, Kubiak
was what he just became last week, an offensive coinator
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for a defensive first head coach. It was Mike Zimmer
in Minnesota, it was Dennis Allen in New Orleans, and
now Mike McDonald for Seattle. All defensive coordinators who became
head coaches and won an offensive coinators run that ship
without the head coach calling the plays.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So Kubiak's known for outside zone rushing.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Think Denver, Broncos, Terrell Davis, Mike Shanahan, and there's a
reason why that's the Shanahan's.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Come up to mind. I'll tell you that in a second.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Kubiak in the Saints last year was also known for
three Chris and even sometimes two receiver pass plays. He
sometimes he more than anybody league sent two and three
receivers out. He had the fewest three or more wide
receiver sets in the league and a lot of pass plays.
The Saints were having eight as many as eight pass protectors.
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They had problems in the offensive line. They were trying
to protect Derek car who end up getting injured.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Anyway. He had Alan Kamara pass blocking, his running backs
pass blocking. After the week too. You remember the Saints
christ in September.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
They had forty points on the first each of the
first two opponents and They just boat raced Dallas in
Week two, beat him like forty four to nineteen. Derek
Carr had the Saints offense and overall had four hundred
and thirty two yards. I think it was just crushed
the Cowboys in Dallas. After that game, Derek Carr told reporters,
including Luke Johnson at the Tights pick you and it
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was on our show Monday, Man, I love Klint Kubiak's
play calling in his protection schemes. Derek Carr really pointed
out about how Kubiak has really improved the pass protection
for the Saints at the beginning of last season.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Then Derek car gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Nine offensive linemens started a game for the Saints last year.
They had so many injuries on the offensive line. Eventually
Alvin Kamara got injured. The Saints they won like one
time after where they started what two to zero, They
end up five and twelve. The last six games after
the bye, the Saints lost them all and only scored
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nineteen or fewer points. They couldn't get above twenty at
the end of the season, so it fell off completely.
Dennis Allen got fired. That's why Kubiak's out looking for
a job. Kubiak's technically not been fired by New Orleans,
but they've yet to hire a head coach they've rumors of.
Mike McCarthy has all kinds of rumors on who the
Saints do a head coach might be. But because the
Saints are going to hire a new head coach, everybody
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who was on the staff last year is out looking
for jobs right now, including Klann Kubiak, who.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Got the Seahawks up. Kubiak.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Those of you that are as old as I am,
remember that Gary Kubiak, his father, used to be an
NFL quarterback. He was the backup quarterback to John Elway
in Denver, and then Gary Kuback eventually became the offensive
coordinator and eventually the head coach of the Denver Broncos.
Gary Kubiak is all about Mike Shanahan. Clint Kubiak is
a member of the original Shanahan coaching treaty from Mike
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Shanahan and was in fact the past game coordinator twenty
twenty three season for Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco. So
that's the background that Mike McDonald saw and said, Ah, okay,
let's run outside zone. Let's max protect we'll sometimes keep
seven eight guys in the block. Sounds like something the
Seahawks would be interested in. And that's some of the
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schematic links as I see it to Clint Kubiak as
a Seahawks new play caller four nine, four to five
one on the TUMMN We're do text Linen was game
time and Tully Time. Your reaction to all of that
about Clint Kubiak. I haven't had a chance to talk
to you or read your feedback about that since I
was gone after Kubiak.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So that was fun.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
By the way, during my mother's eighty ninth birthday, to
write that story, my editor goes, hey, are you gonna right, Kobiac. Yeah,
let me get this vanilla frosting off my mouth and
fingers and I'll try to type this story out real quick.
That wasn't the highest part in my life on Sunday night.
It's eighty nine years old, Mom.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
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What else I had to do for five hours on
a plane. Right, my wife was watching My wife was
watching Quiz Girl movie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Have you heard of that?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
As you haven't heard of Yeah, no, I haven't heard
a lot. I haven't heard of quiz Girl.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
No, some some Asian woman comedian is the lead and
it's it's her name is gaming against an a like
Sandra to play on where Sandro is the supporting actress, Aquafina.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thank you, Yeah, I've heard of her. She's a yeah.
Oh yeah, she's a rapper. That's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, yeah, thank you. Aquafina is the star, although she
plays more the straight and since Sandra Oh of crazy
rich Asians and Ugly Betty and Fame was the comedian
in the movie, as it turned out, kind of flipped
the script there. But yeah, my wife watched that while
I was banging out the rest of my story on
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Gino Smith's future with the Seahawks. We'll talk about that
Cracking have officially done what was becoming obvious, what we
talked to Mike Benton about. We talked a lot of
people with the Cracking around the team about they've given
up on veteran goaltender Philip Grubauer, they waived him. We'll
talk about what that means. What are the Mariners doing
next to next and next to nothing? Besides that, what
are they doing now? With two weeks to the day, Chris,
(01:12):
before pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Peoria, Arizona.
Eleven o'clock, we'll talk to our old friend Luke Arkins Baseball,
Anelagics guy, writer for the Mariners Consiglia Air newsletter, about
where the team is right now beside the drift.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I guess what do you may think? That's where it is?
Eleven thirty one.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Reback your tex four nine four or five one on
telemo texts and I missed the telemore do text line.
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For the last five days.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It's been some Pineapple pizza discussions. Oh pineap yes or no.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
There are a lot although our guys, oh me absolutely,
I am too. Travis was one of our guys. You
know Travis. Yeah, he said, kid this you know pizza?
You don't You don't do that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He was one of the few that were like, now,
but anyone else people with potatoes on pizza?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He lost me. There they do.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I would not usually with white sauce but yeah, potatoes,
this gourmet pizza boom, and yeah, there's all kinds of
mod pizza. I didn't get anything off a truck under
the mod pizzas.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
We also discussed the championships. You know what was more
surprising the commander's getting smoked or the chiefs doing what
they usually do.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The commanders just gave it. How many more mistakes could
they possibly have made?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well? I told you, Saquan scared me, and boy, he
could have ran for three hundred yards. Man, he could have.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But if they still if he could have done that,
and they still would have been in the game, if
they hadn't turned it over in so many fo yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Twenty eight points, they would have lost to the Giants
that day. But alone the Eagles, it says a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, the Bills on the top of a lot of
other things. Josh Allen got the first down. I don't
know how all that God comed up. I we talked
about that too, Chasing the analytics and chasing points, going
for two as early as they did, really bit Sean
McDermott and the Bills. Those are points they end up
chae in the entire game, and then they losing that
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they were down when they should have been tied.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Which catch was harder, you know, Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Kincaid's was just a complete prayer, and there was also
People don't realize that it's talking about a game in
Arrowhead Stadium in the winter, even when there's no wind.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There's wind in Arrowhead. It's built differently. It's on a plane.
Everything's on a plane in Missouri and Kansas.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But it's not in downtown Kansas City. It's out off
of Interstate seventy and it's on this plateau. And when
you walk out of your car and walk into Arrowhead
Stadium from the parking lot, there's.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Nothing to block the wind from Arrowhead Stadium to about
the Rocky Mountains. So even in the winter, there is
a win. And that could what I was watching it live.
I said, well that anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It was a prayer of a throw anyway, But it
wouldn't have surprised me if Dalton Kincaid thought the ball
was gonna land on inside his hands and a wind
gust blew it outside his hands, it would.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Not surprise me. He's not gonna say that because that
would sound terrible. When Bill's field I'd be like, hey,
I feel I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
He might not even know, but I can tell you
that being in that stadium many times there's a win
when there's even not win.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And I'm not making excuses for him.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But that was a prayer for play anyway, it would
have been a remarkable Cats under the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Been. Yeah, he should have made it.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But I'm just telling you that's you aren't in a dome,
which is I heard in a whole discussion on that too.
Should we play all conference title games in a dome?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Nah, you gotta play teams are in their home field,
advantage and weather, and yeah, let's not. Let's let's keep
it the way it is. It's our official. Not let
the Chiefs be so dominant.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh, Chief's pretty good. They have something to do with
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Like Choos Chill, Philip Grubauer allowed five goals on twenty
two shots against lovely Anaheim, and a day later the
Kracking waved him. They waved him with the designation that
they intend to assign him to minor league Coachella Valley.
Player of his experience and stature may not be going there,
but those contractual salary kept reasons for that won't be
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in his starts. He's got twenty one starts, the court
has thirty two. Joey to Cord by far the league
goalie for goaltender Ford to the Cracking. Grubauer is fifty
thirty NHL and goals against fifty fourth in save percentage.
Anaheim loss was his first in eight games NFL teams
have until NHL teams have until today to claiming off waivers.
I guess NFIL team could if they wanted to too.
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Now is gonna claim that contract at five point nine
million dollars this year for a guy who's got a
goals against average it's in the five high threes. So
if he doesn't clear. If he does clear waivers, the
Crack and have the option of sending Gubauer to minor
league Cold chill A Valley. They could keep him around
the organization through the end of the Stanley Cup playoffs
and then they could buy out the final two years
of his contract. He's making, as I said, five point
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nine million a year, way too much to back up
the clear league goaltender. Joey the Cord is probably going
to get the starts now until the Nation's Cup break
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We'll talk to our man, Luke Arkins about what he
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Speaker 2 (06:45):
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We're gonna let you talk for the next twenty minutes
about everything.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
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What do you want to know? What would you ask?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
What would you comment on about the Mariners to Luke
Arkins At eleven o'clock, Marrin's top minor league team, the
Tacoma Rnears, now announced that they're going to have Triple
A Baseball's first women lead broadcaster this season.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Riley pay is.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
The Mariner's new Raynier excuse me, new radio broadcaster, replacing
the retired Mike Kurto in Tacoma.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Boy was Mike Kurto? Good at what he did?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
The Washingtonskies men's basketball team one and eight Big Ten
play next play on Saturday morning at Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right here on your home with Huskies ninety three point
three kids rf them.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Washington State's men's teams five and four in the West
Coast Conference on a two game losing streak, played a
night at Pacific. You remember Pacific came in with like
a twenty game road losing streak and then beat the
Koogs and Pullman this month earlier.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Chris saw this.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm sure the NBA commissioner d Adam Silver mentioned on
The Dan Patrick Show yesterday he likes the idea of
a forty.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Minute game with ten minute quarters. Chris in his eyes, already.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
No, that'll I'm fine with you are that'll cut down,
you know, the big scoring.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I don't mind it. Don't know how the players feel,
but sounded like me. I think people like one thirty nine. Oh,
I don't mind it either.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But pinball international basketball plays forty minutes. Of course, we
know that forty minutes in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And martyr and harder to guard these guys, man, these dudes, like,
what do you do with wimby seven to five?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
How do you stop that? Yeah, he wants to put
up fifty. What are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You don't have a seven footer that can play defense
and garter. It's it's getting out of hand, all right.
Stop having babies and having these kids play basketball. Go
play a different sport because it's not fun over here.
It's tasking someone to guard Kevin Durant that is seven
feet and has a handle of Chris Paul. What are
you supposed to do with that? Gordon fool what? He
can do everything? He's too good? You double team will
(08:52):
he finds the open guy. Players in the NBA don't
miss wide open shots like that. So this is just
stop having babies and play another sport.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
How do we get from forty eight to forty minute
games to stop having babies?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I'm not sure. The talent is just too elite.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Let's just yes, just you just at this point, there's
just there has to be a band on who can
play in the league.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I feel, well, that's a good idea. They gotta do something.
Chris A living Man, I don't know. I don't even
lockdown regime. I don't have any babies and quick playing.
Think about it, man, we're only in twenty twenty five
and twenty fifty. There's gonna be someone that's probably eight
feet tall and just unstopped. There'll be seven three point guards,
and that's gonna be like, what are you supposed to
do with that? You already can't touch them because that's
(09:36):
a foul, and now you're trying to guard it. I
just don't see how this ends.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, by then they're gonna be averaging one hundred and
ninety points a game because guys are just gonna be
scoring a will.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You can't play defense, it's too hard.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
We'll play pick up basketball and dude, you know, the
slightest brush foul.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Isn't what the NBA is.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I don't know how we got out of such a
forty eight forty eight minute game, forty because Adam sober once.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The reason is too window for TV. People will say
they don't play defense, Well, you know what, the people
that they are guarding are elite.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
They're not your average Joe. The shots that they're making
are ridiculous. Steph Curry is exhibit example A one whatever
you want to call it. Dude can shoot from anywhere,
has to handle what are you supposed to do your
double team? And he still gets up a shot. He's incredible.
That's why I said stop having kids again.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Not sure have forty eight min a game the forty
nine game. Got to stop having kids. But Chris got there.
That's got to him.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Cayton Carks, speaking of basketball, decided she's going to skip
the NBA All Star three point Contests in San Francisco
next month. She wants to her first pro three point
contest to be at the w NBA All Star Game.
It's gonna be this summer at It is cool because
the reason why is the WNBA All Star Game is
going to be at her home arena, at the Inn
at an Appolis.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
She saw the future. I see her do your thing, Michael.
That increasing the marketability and visibility of the women's game.
Good for her.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'm sure the NBA was probably going throw a lot
of money at her. Tude a team with Steph Kurr
or somebody like they do.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And yeah, it was fun when they did it last season,
but I understand what's better than the game. Whatever the
game was around Robin Pick. It's so hard to get.
It's just I can't imagine they're having babies that too.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Former WSU Cougars and last season Miami Hurricanes quarterback cam
Ward when the Manning Award is the nation's top college quarterback.
Adding fuel to the fire of rumors that he may
be the number one pick in this Springs draft.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Someone's communist Christian. I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You want to limit the number of children somebody has,
and you want to stop the best.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Player the NBA. You're limited to one child per NBA athlete.
There's there's a name for that. It's called nineteen nineties,
nineteen eighties communist China.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We're going to change things around here in the NBA.
I'm your new commissioner, mister kid.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, if you're over seven feet you have to play center,
you cannot shoot a three.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And if your parents are above six feet at all,
either one of them, you can only have one baby.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That's a hell of a platform. Chris, how long will
I last? Not a day? It depends where you are.
I guess you're fired immediately. We're not going to hire you.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Washington Husky's linebacker Carson Bruner, Washington State Cougar's wide receiver
Kyle Wims. They're going to play to night in the
East West Shrine Bowl College All Star Game in Arlington, Texas.
They moved that from the West coast to the Jerry
World outside Dallas.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Five PM. It's gonna be on NFL Network TV. Have
you seen that now the All Star Games?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Some guys they're even the Senior Bowl after one not
one good practice, one good drill.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Have you seen this? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It reminds me of in track and field if you have,
for instance, let's say Greg, you're doing the long jump
and there's ten competitors.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Greg, you jump twenty four feet. Do you really need
to jump the rest of the day? Probably not. You
jump twenty four feet, You're done.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So I understand why players are having a great play
and like, I'm good, But then again, are you really
It's a little different when it comes to football.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
One good play doesn't just select to fire Grady the
league yet exactly, that's the biggest point. You're not in
the league. You're trying to get there. I get your confident,
and you might have blown up a tackle. You see that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, Marshall outside linebacker Mike Green, so something is in
the top five of that Dresher in this draft absolutely
trucked a poor offense.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think he was from North Texa. I love how
you put it, poor offensive.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was the guy was setting up, but he was
gonna get an outside speed move. And this Mike Green
guy just absolutely told rode him.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean like he wasn't ready. He wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
He thought it was gonna be outside move he had,
which is still bad.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Technique for an offensive tackle to his feet weren't.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
He was all out of whack and off balance and
he absolutely got turnpiked. I mean it was crazy. And
so Mike Green after that drill says, I'm done. I'm
going home that drill.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Buddy.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, see if I'm in the NFL GM a personnel guy. Okay, great,
I like your edge dressing, goes. I don't like your competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, you have a conversation with him. Absolutely, you'd say,
what the hell did you leave to senior boll for?
Are you afraid to compete?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You don't like elite competition? What about consistency?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That's Pete Carroll's type of guy right there. Bring him in,
have a conversation. Hey, but why'd you quit on that drill?
And then they draft him? That was our type of guy.
You know, we talked to him.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
He was great. That's a pe ker guy.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Right, they're telling you, Mike greening the Raiders. He's calling
Chris is Colin right now, man, Yeah, that's become the
new trend now. They say it's because you don't want
to get injured, but it's some of it's to add intrigue.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And they'll do the same thing at the combine.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
They'll show up to the combine, they'll do their interviews,
get them medicals free and be done.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Maybe yeah if that maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
If you're alignment, throw up two, five, twenty five thirty
times and.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Then walk away. Pretty impressive there, Yeah, I mean that's
what they do now.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And anyway, yeah, I used to if I was a
GM a personnel guy, but I'd like to see a
little more competition and stick to what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But I guess those are old school trades.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
On a serious note, I found this out why I
was flying from Detroit to Seattle last night and a
little jarring to be on an airplane learning mess. Fourteen
skaters or board the American Airlines planets slanded into an
Army Apache helicopter and into the Potomac River last night
as it was about the land at Reagan Airport just
outside Washington.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
DC.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Authority's fear that the accident killed all sixty four people,
including the fourteen skaters who were in Wichitac, Kansas for
the National Figure Skating Championships and follow on camps afterwards.
The commute jet was flying from Wichitak, Kansas to d C,
and all the people board the plane and three Army
service members the board the helicopter are believed to have died. Yeah,
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that was That's scary. That's just a busy, busy airspace
around Washington, DC, the Pentagon, Army installations and whatnot. Our
hearts go out to all of those affected by that.
What does Pete Carroll's return to the NFL to coach
the Raiders have to do with Gino Smith's contract in
his future with the Seahawks. Every relationship, it really runs deep,
(15:55):
deeper than a normal coach quarterback partnership. I want to
explain why and what I saw Gino Smith and Pete
Carroll were together.
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Clint Kobiak is the new offensive coordinator for the Seahawks,
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which means Geno Smith is going to learn a whole
new offense yet again. Third offensive coordinator in three seasons.
And yeah, I hear some of you already saying, wait
a minute, are you assuming Gino Smith is going to
be in Seattle? Yes, I am. I think that's going
to happen. And we'll talk about his contract here in
the second. What is Pete care returning the NFL to
coach the Raiders on Friday have to do with all this? Well,
(18:02):
they have a deep, deep relationship. Even vict Tafer in
Las Vegas knows about this. He was the longtime Raiders
beat right, former Raiders beat colleague of mine now at
the Athletic down in Las Vegas, and he was on
with us on Friday right after Pete Carroll got hired.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
This is what he said.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The Raiders view Gino Smith's situation in relationship to Smith's
relationship with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
For sure. I think if the price is right, I mean,
I'm not sure we will take him in the trade
now obviously gonna get a new deal. But I think
you said they're definitely close. I think you know, it's
a while for good football left time on what his
future is there in Seattle if they forgive him long term.
But clearly he's another guy that put on the list
of guys that are gonna look at in this process.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's vict tayfor the Athletic with us on our show
on Friday, and he says, I don't know what his
price is, and that's the magic question. His price right
now is scheduled to be to Seattle forty four and
a half million dollars in cap charge. Now he's going
to get about half that a little more in cash
for the year. It's the final year of his contract.
He's got sixteen million dollars due to him guaranteed on
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March sixteenth, the fifth.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Day of the league year. If he's on the Seahawks Roshd,
they pay that.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
If they traded him before then, the acquiring team, of
course would pay that, and the acquiring team would gain
the forty four million to excuse me, the thirty million
dollar cap charge because the Seahawks would absorb thirteen or
so million of that. So that's where it stands. If
you cut him or trade him, you would save thirty
one million dollars against the cap this year, have a
thirteen million dollar cap hit, a dead cap hit. If
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he's released, he could sign a course as a free
agent with anyone. If a team trades for him, then
they assumed that contract. I wrote about this in the
News Tribune this morning. Go to the News Tribune dot
com to find the story. And it's not just as
convenience as the reason why people are linking Gino Smith
and Pete Carroll if you remember, I don't know if
(19:55):
you do, among everything else you saw, and we're thinking
about when the Seahawks season ended against the on January fifth,
when Geno Smith got his four million dollars an additional
incentive bonuses. That day after the game, we were asking
about his outlook on the Seahawks going forward after this
non playoff season, even though it was ten wins, seven losses,
Smith that I'm telling you, man, this team is heading
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in the right direction. The team is on its way,
that's with or without me, and those of us have
covered a team for day or two kind of looked
at each other as he said it in that room
off the locker room in Englewood, and I thought, without me,
he obviously had an agenda by putting that in there.
Those words came to mind when Pete Carroll got hired
by the Raiders, because make the mistake. Geno Smith went
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out of his way after that final game to say,
and leading into it about to say how much he
appreciated Mike McDonald, his messaging, his consistency. He also mentioned
McDonald's support for him when he was throwing fifteen interceptions
and leading the league with red zone interceptions this season,
and how genuine a guy he is. But is Geno
Smith Revere Pete Carroll? Let's review why if you've forgotten
(21:05):
Gino Smith had seven consecutive years of one year deals
at minimum deal minimum salary just over a million dollars,
which sounds like a lot of money to you and
me because it is.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But in the.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
NFL that's as low as you can get for a veteran,
and you have no guarantee of being anywhere after that season,
especially because you're not playing at all. So he went
seven consecutive years not knowing where the next paycheck of
the following season was going to come from, or even
where he was going to play, if he was going
to play in the league. Seven consecutive seasons from the
Jets kaoing him. His teammate literally Ko and him and
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jaw and they've given up on him in twenty fifteen,
all the way through twenty twenty two, up to twenty
twenty two, that's where he was. Seven consecutive one year deals.
The Seahawks trade Russell Wilson Geno Smith. Pete Carroll decided
from not from the first game, from the first practice
of the first mini camp after they traded Russell Wilson,
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that Gino Smith was starter. Yeah, they said Drew Locke
was in competition with him. Chris and I saw first
hand there was no competition in that trading camp. It
was Gino Smith. Why because Pete Carroll loves him, and
he loved the fact that the locker room loved him.
The locker room gained a lot of appreciation for Gino
Smith for how he was passing out wisdom, counseling players, developing,
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digesting the playbook, being a locker room leader while not
playing a snap some seasons behind.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Russell Wilson and.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Carol never forgot that, and he rewarded him by making
him the starter from practice one after they traded Russell Wilson.
Smith rewarded Carol with the greatest season of his career,
his first playoffs start, his first Pro Bowl, setting fourteen records,
breaking three of Russell Wilson's records, and then the Seahawks
rewarded him in turn with a new three year, seventy
five million dollars deal that's coming up at the end
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of this year. That's how Gino Smith got to where
he is today. He wouldn't even be in a multi
year situation with seventy Do you know, Chris, that Gino
Smith has been in the league for twelve years now.
He has made sixty five million dollars in those twelve
years cash. Do you know how much of that has
been with the Seahawks. He's played for the Jets, the Giants,
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the Chargers. In the Seahawks, those four teams, he's got
contracts from all of them over twelve years. How much
of the sixty five millions he made from the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I would say a lot of it is with the Seahawks.
Sixty of the sixty five million.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, he didn't pan out as a first round pick,
so they heab game only a million dollars and then
he's been a.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Backup seven consecutive one man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Surprised, right, sixty of the sixty five million, fifty of
those sixty.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Million in the last two years, because because.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Pete Carroll made him the unequivocal starter without even a
competition with Drew Locke. So you want to talk about allegiance,
that's nobody on Planet Earth in football.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's more aligned with Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And his feelings than Pete Carroll. That's not saying that
Geno Smith's on his way to the Raiders tomorrow. I
still think, and I've said this, and I've written this,
I've been told and still think that the Seahawks are
going to redo Gino smith deal, extend it, give him
a year or two more, pass his thirty fifth, thirty
six birthdays, so that they can then chop that salary
cap charge from forty four and a half million dollars
(24:11):
down into the twenties or thirty million dollar range. Spread
it over a couple of years and buy more players
and especially lineman with the ten million or so you'd save.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
In cap charge. That's I think going to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But hey, just when we heard Mike McDonald's say we
love Gino we want them to be our starting quarterback
on January seventh, they said they loved Russell Wilson until
they traded him. And if the Raiders gave him some
kind of hall, may be stupid to but if the
Raiders gave him some kind of hall, even close to
what the Broncos did to blow Pete Carroll and John
Schneider's doors off bomb, there you go. That's what That's
(24:44):
what could happen. And you don't think the Seahawks would
love to have a first round pick or a second
round pick to get rid of the forty four and
a half million do Now the question would still be
who's your quarterback after Gino Smith? But suffice to say
that there is no coach, none in the league that
Gino Smith appreciates more than Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And then they saw this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
My son is an Instagram guy saw this on Friday,
right after the Raiders announced or leaked the news came
leaked out that the Raiders are about to sign Pete Carroll.
Gino Smith reposted whatever this means? Reposted on his Instagram story,
posting from twenty twenty of him and Pete Carroll, a
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picture of him and Pete Carroll and then also a
picture of him throwing over the caption how long should
I stay dedicated? How long till opportunity meets preparation? That's
a Nipsy Hustle.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Lyric. I didn't know that. My son told me that.
You know, Nipsey Hustle.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Y Isaiah Thomas's favorite guy. He had a from a
dedication song from twenty eighteen. Nipsey Hustle wrote that, And
that's what Gino Smith quoted in this post, and he
reposted in his story. And so when I was writing
in the beginning to write the story Saturday, in my
flight to Michigan, I was looking for I said, I
can't find it. My son has said that's because the
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Instagram stories go away after twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like, what are you talking about? Yeh, that's all right, Greg,
I'm catching up. Sorry a little late, Carol.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Two weeks before December twenty twenty one. I'm getting my
dates right, no excuse me. December twenty twenty three, at
the end of what became Pete Carroll's last season, two
weeks before they Seahawks fired Pete Carroll, Carrol called Smith
quote one of my all time favorite guys. Smith has said,
(26:38):
I always wanted to play for Coach Carroll. I was
hoping I could get a USC offer coming out of
high school. He played in Miami, of course, and then
went to West Virginia. Didn't really happen, obviously, went to
West Virginia instead, but Carroll calls him one of his
all time favorite guys for how he has persevered. This
was in December twenty twenty three, two weeks before the
Seahawks fired Pete Carroll. Quarrel quote, I love this Jenis,
(27:00):
I love his story. Pete Carroll said, He's taught me
so much, and I admire him for the way he's
handled the competitive part of this thing. He's taughtest belief
in yourself and how powerful that is. As clear of
an illustration of anybody that I can never remember. Carol
said to Smith, he's one of my all time favorite guys.
Fourteen days up to Carrol said that January ten, twenty
twenty four, the Seahawks fired Carol and they chose Snyder's
(27:23):
vision over Carrols for how to move forward with the team.
Do you remember that press conference three days later in
Renting when Pete Carroll said goodbye the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Who was in front right center, Gus Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Geno Smith was there, And there was an EP photograph
that I ran with my story from Lindsey Watson who
pictured him. He's in a flannel and he is glumly
sitting in the first row watching watching Pete Carroll say
goodbye in tears.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He called it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Then three months later, Gino Smith said of the day
the Seahawks fired Pete Carroll, quote, shoot man, that day
is probably a day I'll remember for just because of
how things happened for me here. Obviously, Coach Carroll a
big influence in my career. He helped me out immensely
when I came to this organization and really helped me
thrust me into the spotlight. For me, it was kind
of just a terrible moment to see someone that I
(28:14):
love so much have to part ways with him. So
this runs deep, Chris. This isn't just oh, he used
to be my coach Gino Smith owes him sixty of
the sixty five million dollars that he's made in this
league to Pete Carroll. All is this to say is
it's not a slam dunk that Gino Smith's coming back.
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If the Raiders could put something together with under Pete
Carroll that would be attractive to the Seahawks, or if
the Seahawks decided, you know what, what do you do,
Chris run Sam Howe, But you know what, we're going
to move on from Gino Smith and save this at
least thirteen or fifteen million of the forty four million.
Thirty man is what they'd say that they could happen
(28:57):
to trade him on that cap fit. I don't think
it's what happened. It doesn't see what the tea leaves are.
But we've seen something more surprising here in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Exactly, so we'll see. I didn't think moving on from
Russell was the smart movie, and it kind of worked out.
Not that they won a Super Bowl, but they haven't
been a four and thirteen teen a seven win team.
They've been better than that. What's to say that John
Schneider doesn't see that Sam Howell is as bad as
(29:29):
everyone's saying he is, and says, you know what, we're
going to trade you know, to the Raiders for whatever
the hall may be and start over with Sam Dowell
because he believes that he can do that again with
a backup quarterback that everyone had given up on, even
though that was kind of maybe John and Pete working
together on it now is John and Mike does Mike
McDonald view that Sam Howell could be the future. I'm
(29:50):
not sure about that. I can't imagine he does. Can
you No, that's what I'm saying. I'm not sure about it.
I don't know. I haven't heard not that he's been
negative towards Sam, but I haven't.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
And like, oh, yeah, Sam is a guy that I mean,
he says all the right things, but it's nothing that
says he believes in Sam as he does with Geno.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
There's nothing that Sam Howe did that could suggest, you
know what, with a new offensive coordinator, let's put Sam
Howell in there and the offense will be exactly where
I want it to be. Yeah, I just I can't
think that's what Mike McDonald's thinking. I can't think Clint
Kubiak interviewed for this job, saying, you know what, guys,
I can win with Sam Howe.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Let's go yeah, right, you hire a new OC and
now it's Sam Howell's show. If you watched any of
his tape from last season, I know he didn't get
a lot. He was thust into the fire and that sucked.
But he didn't It didn't go wow, you know what,
Let's give this kid a shot. He didn't light it up.
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, it's anyway, it's not a fade, a complete when
you have Pete Carroll joining the Raiders all of a
sudden back in the NFL, and you know Smith's allegiance
to him. But again, most likely March sixteenth will tell.
If the Seahawks guarantee him sixteen million dollars on March
sixteenth by having him on the roster, then they're not
going to guarantee Hm sixteen million and then cut them.
(31:04):
They could guarantee them sixteen million to trade them. Then again,
the trading team, the acquiring team would take on all
the financial obligations from a trade.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
We'll see, we will see.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
To say the least, the Raiders have a ton of
cap space currently right now at the ninety million dollars
depending way to do it, Max Crosby, but ninety million
dollars for the NFL team right now in cap space,
the top fifty one number based on the cap is
expected to be a two hundred and eighty million dollars
for twenty twenty fives. Someone on the text line asking
that question about the Raiders cap space the two five three,
(31:37):
Thanks for.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That, abop. Next about Clint Kubiak.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Chris and Andrews talked to a Saints Bete writer on Monday,
Luke Johnson, Thank you. Luke Johnson was commenting about the
personality of Clint Kubiak and how this might not be
just a quick one or two years in the guy.
If the OC succeeds, he'd be in line for a
head coaching job. Maybe the Seahawks sends that by talking
to him, we'll find out all about that and replay
(32:04):
his quotes and talk about the personality of Clint Kubiak
and what Mike McDonald's saw in the thirty seven year
old to hire him as the new play caller for
the Seahawks. Luke arkins at eleven o'clock to talk Mariners
two weeks from today, pitchers and catchers report to Peoria,
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(32:29):
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Speaker 2 (32:43):
The Seahawks have hired their offensive coiner after.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Three week search. It's thirty seven year old Clint Kubiak.
As you probably know by now, Kubiak was the Saints
offensive coinator this past season. So Chris and Anderson Hurst
on Monday had Luke Johnson, the New Orleans Times picky
un beat writer on to talk about Clint Kubiak in
his personality and how maybe it doesn't fit as a
head coach as I was.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Luke Johnson explained it as.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Far as being a head coach, I don't know if
that's going to ever be something that Clint does. You
guys will find out that he is. He is not
a very charismatic person at a podium great He is
incredibly dry, I really like him personally. When you're talking
about like being the face of a franchise, I think
that's that's going to be like a tough personality to sell.
(33:30):
You know, he has jokingly called himself a wet blanket before.
I don't think that like applies to his relationship with players.
The players really really seem to like him and like
his attention to detail, and you know how demanding he
is of them. I think they all respect him. But like,
I don't know if that personality is going to play
as a as a head coach, Like, I think you
(33:51):
need a lot of work in that regard.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That was some of the concern that people had with
hiring a young, hotshot offensive coordinator that if he succeeds
here for a year or two, boom, he becomes a
Ben Johnson in the top head coaching candidate for everybody
and he leaves and the Seahawks would have to start
over again in a couple of years. Perhaps if Luke
Johnson and beat writers usually have a good read on
stuff like this, and that's certainly a sense if Luke
(34:16):
Johnson's right, Perhaps Mike McDonald said, well, this guy doesn't
command a room enough yet to be a head coach.
He probably thought he didn't heck before he took this job,
and now he's learning and so and his oats doing that.
But maybe on first impression he's thinking, well, this guy's
got some seasoning to do before he would ever take
over an entire team, and therefore I'm not gonna be
(34:39):
too worried about him going right out the doors the
next hot shot coaching candidate. The attractiveness. Okay, so let's
talk about why what the Seahawks and Mike McDonald saw
in Kubiak. Well, Unlike Ryan Grubb, Kubiak has been an
offensive coiner calling plays in the NFL before three different teams,
three different seasons. In fact, twenty twenty one for the
(34:59):
minnesot Vikings twenty twenty two, at the end of that
disastrous Denver Broncos season, with Hackett and Russell Wilson taking
over for the first time on all that mess, they
turned the play calling duties over to Klint Kubiak, and
then this past season for the Saints, and in both
the Saints and the Vikings in twenty twenty one, Kubiak
was what he just became last week, an offensive coinator
(35:22):
for a defensive first head coach. It was Mike Zimmer
in Minnesota, it was Dennis Allen in New Orleans, and
now Mike McDonald for Seattle. All defensive coordinators who became
head coaches and won an offensive coinators run that ship
without the head coach calling the plays.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So Kubiak's known for outside zone rushing.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Think Denver, Broncos, Terrell Davis, Mike Shanahan, and there's a
reason why that's the Shanahan's.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Come up to mind. I'll tell you that in a second.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Kubiak in the Saints last year was also known for
three Chris and even sometimes two receiver pass plays. He
sometimes he more than anybody league sent two and three
receivers out. He had the fewest three or more wide
receiver sets in the league and a lot of pass plays.
The Saints were having eight as many as eight pass protectors.
(36:14):
They had problems in the offensive line. They were trying
to protect Derek car who end up getting injured.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Anyway. He had Alan Kamara pass blocking, his running backs
pass blocking. After the week too. You remember the Saints
christ in September.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
They had forty points on the first each of the
first two opponents and They just boat raced Dallas in
Week two, beat him like forty four to nineteen. Derek
Carr had the Saints offense and overall had four hundred
and thirty two yards. I think it was just crushed
the Cowboys in Dallas. After that game, Derek Carr told reporters,
including Luke Johnson at the Tights pick you and it
(36:48):
was on our show Monday, Man, I love Klint Kubiak's
play calling in his protection schemes. Derek Carr really pointed
out about how Kubiak has really improved the pass protection
for the Saints at the beginning of last season.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Then Derek car gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Nine offensive linemens started a game for the Saints last year.
They had so many injuries on the offensive line. Eventually
Alvin Kamara got injured. The Saints they won like one
time after where they started what two to zero, They
end up five and twelve. The last six games after
the bye, the Saints lost them all and only scored
(37:27):
nineteen or fewer points. They couldn't get above twenty at
the end of the season, so it fell off completely.
Dennis Allen got fired. That's why Kubiak's out looking for
a job. Kubiak's technically not been fired by New Orleans,
but they've yet to hire a head coach they've rumors of.
Mike McCarthy has all kinds of rumors on who the
Saints do a head coach might be. But because the
Saints are going to hire a new head coach, everybody
(37:48):
who was on the staff last year is out looking
for jobs right now, including Klann Kubiak, who.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Got the Seahawks up. Kubiak.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Those of you that are as old as I am,
remember that Gary Kubiak, his father, used to be an
NFL quarterback. He was the backup quarterback to John Elway
in Denver, and then Gary Kuback eventually became the offensive
coordinator and eventually the head coach of the Denver Broncos.
Gary Kubiak is all about Mike Shanahan. Clint Kubiak is
a member of the original Shanahan coaching treaty from Mike
(38:16):
Shanahan and was in fact the past game coordinator twenty
twenty three season for Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco. So
that's the background that Mike McDonald saw and said, Ah, okay,
let's run outside zone. Let's max protect we'll sometimes keep
seven eight guys in the block. Sounds like something the
Seahawks would be interested in. And that's some of the
(38:37):
schematic links as I see it to Clint Kubiak as
a Seahawks new play caller four nine, four to five
one on the TUMMN We're do text Linen was game
time and Tully Time. Your reaction to all of that
about Clint Kubiak. I haven't had a chance to talk
to you or read your feedback about that since I
was gone after Kubiak.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So that was fun.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
By the way, during my mother's eighty ninth birthday, to
write that story, my editor goes, hey, are you gonna right, Kobiac. Yeah,
let me get this vanilla frosting off my mouth and
fingers and I'll try to type this story out real quick.
That wasn't the highest part in my life on Sunday night.
It's eighty nine years old, Mom.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
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