January 7, 2025 • 39 mins
Gregg Bell and Christopher get rolling w/ headlines and then dive into potential offensive coordinators that Mike Macdonald might be interested in interviewing for the position. Mike Benton joins the show to talk about the Kraken's loss New Jersey's Devils, and if they can make a push to the post-season. We also play audio from Seahawks CB Devon Witherspoon from the lockeroom as we close up the 2024-25 Seahawks season.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome back to the Greg Belt Show with Christopher Kidd
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The Seahawks are having a one pm press conference today,
not to name the new offensive Coordinara or not yet.
It's to talk to a head coach Mike McDonald, where
the questions will undoubtedly be all over the offensive coordinator situation,
why you fired Ryan Greb, and what he's looking for
in the new assis new play caller an offensive coordinator,
I'm going to ask him his prerequisite for having called
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plays in the NFL in play for this higher because
it didn't work out last time with one who did
not ever have NFL play calling experience. That's at one
o'clock today. You'll see the stories at the News Tribute
dot com and on Twitter. Exit g Bill Seattle. NFL
draft orders said Seahawks are eighteenth. The NFL playoffs are
set the Chargers at the Texans Saturday at one thirty,
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Pittsburgh at Baltimore five pm. Saturday Sunday, Denver at Buffalo
ten am, Green Bay at Philadelphia one thirty, Washington at
Tampa Bay at five. The Sunday night game Monday night,
the playoff game is Minnesota at the Los Angeles Ram.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Of course, the Chiefs and the Lions have first round.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Buys the top seeds in the AFC and NFC, respectively.
The Titans today fired general manager Ran Carton after Tennessee
went three and fourteen this season. The Titans say Brian
Callahan's remaining their head coach after that one season in
Nashville the Kraken. They lost again last night at home
three two to New Jersey on a goal early in
the third period. Adam Larson and Shane Wright scored for Seattle.
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Philip Grubauer twenty six saves starting while Joey Decord was
put on injured reserve and an upper body injury. You
heard Mike Benton say last half hour it's a bruising
upper body injury retroactive to before the new year, so
he could come back.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Mike says potentially by this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
With kracking that they played Columbus here on ninety three
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show four corkpuck drop, and then they have back to
back games in Buffalo and then Detroit Saturday and Sunday
on a five game road trip. College football, the playoffs
semi finals start on Thursday. Penn State Notre Dame in
the Miami Orange Bowl Friday the Cotton Bowl between Ohio
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State and Texas. Those winners will play in a national
championship on January twentieth, in the National Championship for the
Football Championship Subdivision, the former Division one DOUBLEA. North Dakota
State won its tenth FCS title in fourteen years last night,
beating previously fifteen to oh Montana State thirty five thirty two.
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Speaker 3 (03:40):
Where you are Jory, Good morning, good afternoon, Greg christ
How guy?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
We are well? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Now that the dust has settled on a wild Monday
for the Seahawks with firing up Ryan Greb's offensive coordinator.
Let's start there when you thank offensive coordinator and you
think of guys who have experienced play.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Calling in the NIA, who do you think might fit
the Seattle job?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And at Doug Peterson after being a super Bowl champion
head coach with the Eagles, a head coach with Jacksonville
until Monday, would he possibly want to come home and
do that?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You think, yeah, I think that would be an interesting question.
If I were the Seahawks will seeing at Doug Peterson,
I would want to make sure that Doug Peterson, rather
than Press Taylor is calling his place. I think that
was a big question, first in Philadelphia and then in Jacksonville,
where he continued to let Press Taylor call his plays,
perhaps to some people chagrin. I think what's interesting also
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is that some of the best candidates, like Josh McCown
I think will be really interesting Nick Cayley with the Rams.
Those are some guys who don't have Play Colley experience
who if I were Seattle, I would interview, But we're
not play Colley experience. I mean again, in addition to
Doug Peterson, you've got Frank Greig, You've got a guy
like Anthony Lynn, who has spent this year with Washington.
Dan Quinn really valued what he was able to do
to support that organization, and clearly what they've done with
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Jane Dandils has worked. And then the grounds parting ways
with Ken Dorsey. I mean, I don't think that was
a reflection of Ken Dorsey not being an effective offensive coordinator.
I think it was a reflection of the Brown hiring
the guy who had a different offensive vision than Kevin
Stefanski and they didn't figure it out. But when Ken
Dorsey started calling plays for Cleveland this year after Sean
Watson got hurt, the offense looked better, and I think
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that was reflective of a play calling element, not just
a personnel element.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Were you when you talk to people around the league, Joy,
or even your perception from New York of Seattle, what
is your perception of Mike McDonald the job, the direction
of the team, and where the Seahawks sit right now,
a ten win team not in the playoffs. Is it
an attractive place that an offensive coordinator would come to
call plays.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think it's an attractive place. And I think it's
also interesting anytime you have a defensive head coachicular and
you can be sort of the head coach of the offense.
There are definitely guys who would want something like that
as opposed to being the guy under Sean McVay or
Andy Reid, where yeah, you're the offensive coordinator, but you
don't really have the opportunity to call plays and run
your offense. And I think, I mean again, even another
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name that would be interesting Brian Johnson, who's also on
that Washington staff that's overperformed when he was in Philly.
He was kind of like, oh, was it his offense
or was it Nick Fury on The's offense? And I
think that Brian hasn't called his offense yet, and so
I think that, to me, is one of the most
attractive parts of the job.
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Speaker 4 (06:29):
Jory, I'm curious with the Steelers. They've lost four straight games.
They're going into the playoffs, going to take on the
Baltimore Ravens. If I think everyone's picking the Ravens to win. Hell, Jory,
who you got winning that game?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Definitely. Okay. So with that being said.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Is Mike Tomlin is his job on the line if
they do end up losing that game and he's out
of the playoffs yet again.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It is so funny because I understand the importance of
momentum and the Stephanie coaches. But I think like two
months ago, three months ago over and they're saying Mike
Tomlin should be coach of the year. Now it's his
job on the line. I think when you look at
how Pittsburgh runs the organization and how long Mike Tomlin
has been there, I don't expect them to say we
want you out. I think the question is, does Mike
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Tomlin go to ownership and say, hey, maybe it's better
forever and to get a fresh voice. I was joking
with someone yesterday that if Mike Tomlin and Mike McCarthy
just switched place as McCarthy's from Pittsburgh the bill. I
think they're both great coaches and coaches who might benefit
from a new perspective and change of scenery and just
a chance to be a fresh voice in your room.
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And so to me, that's more the question. And again,
there are definitely people who think that Mike Tomlin could
be one of the better options for the Chicago Bears
if he becomes available, And when asked today whether they
would consider giving up drafts capital for a coach, Bears
General manager Ryan pul said they would explore everything and
he did not.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Rule that out the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Let me remind you, as a Pittsburgh, Airy native, the
Steelers have had three head coaches in my lifetime and
I'm fifty five years old. Three since nineteen sixty nine.
Chuck No, Bill Kawer, Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's it. He ain't going everywhere anywhere. That guy's a magician, right.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They're not kicking him out a losing season though, so
you've got to give him some credits.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The Jets have just announced they have completed an interview
with Rex Ryan for the head coaching position. Rex Ryan
last coached the Jets what was it two thousand and
nine through the fourteen season, and then I think his
last stint was with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is this a good movie thing? Going back after they're old?
Tell you what Aaron Rodgers would be hell out of there?
If Rex Ryan comes back. Is that a good move
for the Jets going after wreck? You think yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think What amazed me is that Rex Ryan said
publicly on the record, if I go there, we're getting
rid of the country club and Aaron Rodgers. He's going
to have to like follow a different set of roles
and I'm like, look, I don't think he's likely to
be back, but you don't have an answer quarterback after
him yet, So is that really your best mood to
a We need a quarterback who we know has a
long memory and has a pension for holding brudges.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I don't think the Jets care at this point. Now.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
They want to win. They want to get to the playoff.
Excuse me, Jory tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean, come on, if a player just refuses to
come into a game, and Mike McDaniel didn't sound very
happy about it after the game. You were at the
game in the Meadowlands against the Jets. Can you see
any way tyreek Hill comes back to Miami. Of course,
that's what hi'll's trying to engineer here to get out
of there. But if you're a teammate, why would you
want to be in the locker room with that guy?
And if you're a coach, why would you want to
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coach him?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Look, I think your emotions after the game, and I
give Mike McDaniel credit actually for how he handled it
when he's like, I'm not going to engage in the guy,
and he's engaged with the guy in the heat of
the moment when he's that emotional. Dolphin's general manager Chriser
did say today that Tyreek him and officially asked out,
we have to remember here is it's not really up
to Tyreek right now. If he's under contract, Dlphins told
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his rights and so to me, you're Tyreek, that's great
for you to say that. That's great for you to
be frustrated that your quarterback got hurt, you didn't make
the playoffs for the first time in your career. But
that doesn't mean you get to leave. Well, you could leave,
but you can't play somewhere else unless the Dolphins agree
to it, and I would imagine they would want a
pretty significant haul. I also think that to the question
of do you want to play with someone who doesn't
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want to be there and coach someone who doesn't want
to be there. We see this all the time when
guys get in trouble off the field and it's kind
of like, hey, if you are like an average player
or not good, they say, well, you know what, we
just don't tolerate that kind of person in the organization.
If you're tire tail, they'll tolerate you. Only've seen that
with his fool of off field concertain So yes, they
still want to play with the talent like him and
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the seeds like him.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And if the Dolphins did want to trade him, he'd
have a ton of suitors in across the league.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Obviously, when you look back at it, when Tyreek was
stating how he believes that Tua can throw the ball
better than Patrick Mahomes, do you think he looks back
and probably regrets those comments, considering unfortunately the injuries and
how the seasons have gone with the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then you look at the chief.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, yeah, I don't think there's really a downside to
a guy now she's for the player on his team.
I mean, would most people say that about a quarterback
they previously played with and won a Super Bowl with.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I've also interviewed Tyreek Hill. I've interviewed him in Kansas City,
and I've interviewed him in Miami, and pretty much everything
comes out of his mouth and sometimes the opposite us too,
And so everyone involved here notes that this is just
Tyreek being Tyreek. I don't think Mahomes is losing any
sleepover there.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Four Tom were text Islands game time is totally time,
just textan could you let Joy know how much I
look forward to her segment with you.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
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You're welcome. I want to make sure you heard that
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Speaker 2 (11:50):
Dot con Jory.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Did Aaron Glenn get a raw deal in New England?
It's not like he had a stacked roster. Bill Belichick's
departure left and with.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah. I was watching Robert Craft's press conference yesterday
and I was just I mean, look, credit to Robert
Kraft for saying that he feels terrible, this was his
fault and he puts your odd in an untenable situation.
But I think, to me, the way I look at
it is Gion Mayo made mistakes this year, so have
all of us. I think you have the crude us
to you and maybe you should consider whether you're being
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honest with yourself. But I think that when you look
at Gion Mayo, he wasn't credit to succeed and he
was set up to fail. The two things that really
fuck out to me about Robert Craft's press conference was
first of all, he said, we've been bad at the
draft for a long time. Okay, well, if you're bad
at the draft for a long time, which by the way,
was primarily Bill Belichick's fault, you don't have the talent
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to win, which everyone going into the season bought. New
England didn't have the talent. I think going into this season,
like Chicago, for example, people had high hopes friend that
was a problem for them relative to their expectations, but
people did not think that New England has the talent.
Their offensive line was disastrous, and you cannot have an
offense without the offensive line, so with no surprise that
they were bottom three in pretty much all the offensive metrics.
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The second thing that Robert Kraft said when he talked
about why he only gave to her on one year
is he said, we saw what happened last year in
twenty twenty three when we only won four games. We
saw what happened this year we only won four games,
and when I see their aggression, I don't want to
do this again in twenty twenty five. I agree that
regressing is bad and that for better and worse, these
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NFL teams are often judged by how by their trajectory
over the course of the season, not just the results,
but to start drugs clock a year before he got
the job, to me is just so unfair, and so
I think that when the next coach comes in, Robert
Kraft is really going to have to look honestly at Hey,
what downsize or what disadvantages do we have from Bill Belichick?
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And how can we be honest about those? Because I mean,
even with the front office and a lot of the opergations,
like Bill Belichick was doing so many things that when
he leaves and you hire a coach, well, Bill Belichick
was a lot more than a coach, and I think
until they're honest about that, they're not going to be
able to fairly assass any coach in that building.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Trod Maya should hire you as his agent. You are
impassionate about how unfairly he was treated in New England.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I don't think Look, he didn't he didn't have a
great season, and I do think he made comments he
shouldn't have made, and he made coaching decisions he shouldn't
have made. But also I just don't think there was
any way in which he was going to succeed based
on the criteria that Robert pat S got out, I agree.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
With you, the Kobe Brissette was not exactly a path
to success there to be in the season for Drod Mayor.
Did Aaron Glenn just get himself a head coaching job
with what he did that Sam Darnold and Vikings as
the Lions DC the other night.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I think he raised his profile, but I think he
was pretty high beforehand. I mean, to see what the
Lion's defense has done throughout the last few years, this
year and then in the last few weeks, I mean,
I guess they had one of their best performance of
if not beaver best performance against the Vikings. But to me,
each week I kept being like, oh no, they're playing
a really good, a better team. Now what are they
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going to do with all of their injuries? And every
week he had an answer. So yes, I fully expressed
him to be a head coach, and I think there
are going to be several teams who wants him and
that he's going to have his pick a mind trucks.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love how he just goes man coverage and just
plasters dudes and just as our guys are better than
you any it's it's like a player's mentality. Of course,
Aaron Glynn once was famously with the Jets and others.
Jorry Epstein, senior NFL writer for y'all Who Sports, joining
us as he does every Tuesday, Hero and the Beacon
plumbing highlight thanks to the Zeek's Pizza and Zeek's Pizza
dot Com. Okay, Jory, prognostication time. What do you think
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is going to happen this weekend in the first round
of the plass? I think Green Bay has a really
legit shot at the Eagles, especially with the Jalen Hurts situation,
depending on how banged up he is. But where do
you see this weekend going?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Do you? First of all, what do you what do
you see going in the Packers Eagles game on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, it's so interesting. I'll be at that game. I'll
be in Philadelphia for it on Sunday. And I think
what's so fun for me is like, this is a
rematch of the season opener with Packers Eagles and show
in Brazil. And I would say at that point the
Eagles won, that they were a much worse team than
they are now now. Grant is the main the main
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question to me is whether Jalen Hurts is healthy and playing.
But if he is available in playing and even at
like sixty to seventy percent health, now I'm not paying
fifty to seventy percent recover from his concussion because I
want one hundred percent before you're out of that. But
if he is sixty to seventy percent as effective as
he usually is, I think the Eagles are much better team.
And Green Bays also had its share of quarterbacks health problems.
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I mean both their quarterbacks had versions of the injuries
last week. So I think when you look at this team,
the Eagles offensive staffed and the defense that was really
still figuring out that Sangio the first time they played
has rounded into form. So I would expect the Eagles.
But if Jalen Hurts says some play, then I think it's.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
A tox up.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
But I'm not even sure that the Eagles will lose
without Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You're right about the Packers. That's a tough first round
match with the Packers. They're really well round the team out.
They got Aaron Jones running the ball. The Chargers in
the afe Jory, I could see them. I mean if
they win this game, there's a good chance they're going
to play at the Chiefs, depending if the lower seed
than them wins this weekend, which seems unlikely. So I
think they're going to boat Raise Texas or Houston in
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Texas this weekend. Did you see Jim Harbaugh in that
defense and the way Herbert is playing under Harbaugh as
a threat to the Chiefs in round two if it
gets there.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh that's interesting. I mean, a threat maybe, But I
am not betting against Patrick Mahomes until he gives this
reason too. I think that again, everyone last year studying
against him when he had to be on the road
and this and that, and what did he do? I
went to Buffalo, and when I was in Buffalo and
in Baltimore when he just went on the road. He
didn't play perfect games, but he always figured out a
way to win. And that was after they had a
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much worse statistical season and records season than they had
this year. I understand they're winning games late, but they're
winning all of their games. So yeah, I don't think
that the Chargers would win, but I do think it
would be a good game.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You, ma'am, are going to the best game of the
weekend trip to Philadelphia and Packers and Eagles, and we'll
talk about what you found and everything else in the
NFL next Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's always thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Great tak you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Srey Epstein, Senior NFL writer with the Yahoo Sports Thanks
to Zeke's Pizza and Zekespizza dot com. She rattled off
a list of names that not a lot of people
are talking about in Seattle right now, Nick Hayley, the Rams,
Ken Dorsey, the Cleveland offensive coordinator, Brian Johnson, and Washington
Josh McCown, the quarterbacks coach for the Minnesota Vikings, as
potential candidates. And her point is really interesting about being
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the head coach of the offense. I thought that's a
really good way to put it. When you have thirty
seven year old Mike McDonald as the head coach out
here in Seattle, an offensive mind would see this as
an opportunity to be the head coach of the offense
here rather than say, being Kevin O'Connell's like offense cordnator
when you're not gonna call plays in Minnesota, for instance.
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So that is that's in her point is that that
makes Seattle's offensive coordinator job more attractive than maybe some
others around the league. And those are names that bear
some mentioning when you think of it in that lens,
I think, yeah, I you don't sound real excited when
I start saying Ken Dorsey.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Well, I just don't know much. I need to go
and see what they're all about. We read on them
and what their offenses look like. Right, just because Cleveland
runs the ball even when Chubb wasn't in there, they Yeah,
that is true, but that's an interesting one for sure.
I know the weapons that they have were not what
the Seahawks have, so that changes a lot of They
don't have Geno r quarterback, so yeah, that bringing that
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in could be beneficial. But then, as you mentioned, it
doesn't matter until you get an offensive line.
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Speaker 4 (21:08):
When it's game time. It's Pully time from the five
six two our guy Teddy ball game.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Greg.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I listened to you at seven am with Chuck and
Buck and Nash in the morning and you just said
that if you didn't perform, you're gone.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So explain this.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Seahawks lose to Detroit because defensive failure, not grub. You
lose to the Giants because special teams, not grub. Lost
to Rams because of defense, not grub. QB mailedown during
the Bills game, not grub, but head coach did nothing.
Grub should have gotten them twelve to thirteen wins. Sounds
to me that the wrong coach got canned.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well that's thanks, Teddy. Good to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And that's a perception of like for instance, I think
the Giants game was lost by the offense and the
fact that they couldn't convert a fourth and one because
they can't run the ball, and Brian Burns just spat
on the play action fake. We've talked about this a
couple of times and just went straight at Gino Smith
on fourth and one when they're trying to run a bootleg. No,
no chance they were gonna The Giants were going to
honor the run fig because Seahorwks didn't run the ball
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five carries that day and fifty eight pass calls, five
carries for Kenneth Walker. I'd say the offense was the
reason they lost to the Giants, and the defense in
the beginning of the year, Chris is not the defense.
At the end, it was like two different teams. Yeah,
they got outscored by the Lions. A lot of teams do.
Was it forty three to twenty nine or whatever? The
final twenty nine points by the offense. The offense wasn't
the problem that night, but Gino Smith always flights up
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the Lions, and the lions man defense plays into the
Seahawks' strengths.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Everybody else in the league this season played too high
shell coverage Cloud not the Lions. Lion said, we're manning
up against you guys in Metcalf and Jet Smiths and
Jigman Lockett that field day. Every year, the same thing
happens when they go to play Detroit. So I don't
I don't necessarily.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Agree with the fact that Ryan Greb was blameless in
those particular instances. But well, Mike mnhold was going to
fire himself, and they're not going to fire Mike McDonald
one season with what he's built in building and in
fact they won ten games and had a defense and
for the.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Last half of the season was the best defense in
the NFL. That's how I see that.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
From the four two five, I would like to see
Doug Peterson as the new Seahawks Offen as the coordinator
as well as the five oh nine.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
They also say Doug Pete he I was gonna say
here or see it's not alone in thinking that. Yep,
that is true. Hort and Bellingham raised in Ferndale.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
There's there is that, But we'll see what he would
want to do that and whether that's even an option.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
From the four two five, when can you guys start
hammering away on the Mariners offseason. I'm a piss poorly
ran organization we have. You know I need two minutes
into the show.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
We got our first Mariner reference.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, you know, Greg and I can't wait. It's the
Seahawks season is over, so you know after today. To
be honest, Greg and I could honestly open the show
tomorrow with a little bit of you know what, we.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Should open the show tomorrow with all the major huge
signings the Mariners have made since you can't how many
sorry not zero? No way? What yeah you said how
many zero? There you go, wonder when you get that.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
You serious from the three to six? Soh Yes, the
Giants had a great offensive year. We win ten games.
Hang on the Giants. Let me finish reading this. We
win ten games and you get fired. That would be
like your ratings being the highest on KJR and get
getting fired. Yes, the Giants had a great offensive year.
I don't know about that. He's being sarcastic. Well, I
(24:30):
didn't read into that. John and Jerry, we're talking about
Mike cast you. Well, yeah, but I think the play
calling is fine. If, for instance, if the Seahawks have
a good offensive line, we're not having this discussion. You
know why, because Grubs probably they win the NFC West, right.
The Giants are just a poor organization. So it doesn't
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matter what Brian Dayball and the offensive coordinator call out there,
it's not going to get executed. Now against the Seahawks,
the executor just fine. Daniel Jones, damn there could have
got a contract from the Seahawk because he played so well.
He did, so that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
That's neither here nor there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
That that's the point I would make in that you
put twenty nine on it, right, I mean outside the
special teams touchdown, they scored what twenty two points?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So that's that's kind of crazy to think about. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Two five, three says you w fans. You dub fans
are the only ones saying Grubs shouldn't have been fired.
I was the worst of c in the league by
a mile. Take the purple glasses off, puppies.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I love the glasses. I'm a koog.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So you you ain't got war about that wasn't from
the five O nine areas from the three six. So Chris,
you think the defense was good this year? Did you
watch Jimmy g pass for three fifty for the season.
I'm not going to kill him for one bad game.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, they screen passed loose at them.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
They did not play their best game by the end
of the season, sure, but overall they improved.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's my point.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I'm not talking about that one game because yes, that
one didn't even matter. They could have lost, and yeah
it would have been bad, but it doesn't matter. It
wouldn't hurt them. If they win, it doesn't matter. I'm
gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Four two five.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Does Michael Dixon rest up a lot of three and
outs next year since John meaning Snyder can't draft to
acquire offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Speaking of the Koogs four two five, I ran to
the Koog basketball player Antonio Chambers from zero five team,
and he's the head coach of the girls varsity team
for Redmond High School. They're ten and oh, okay, go.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Go go coops, not out to the Mustang.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That's cool man ten and oh maybe they can go
and defeated. We shall see, Greg and kid. Here's my
prediction for the college playoffs after the following year. They'll
have to go sixteen teams, which I think Greg you
might have already alluded to. Oh it's coming, and the
first round impossible. The second round will be at the
home schools facility. Obviously, I have to adjust the time
from I'm sign me up.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, that was gonna be playing college football past the
Super Bowl where they keep expanding the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh yeah, sign me up though, I'm I'm in.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Greg asked Mike if they're bringing back their throwing acts
a game this year.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's a good memory for those of you that forgot.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
When we were broadcasting from Seahawks training camp, I was
amazed to find that they were throwing axes fans.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
They were real axes.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That it was about thirty feet to our left from
a broadcast position, to the side of the field, and
they had a giant black fence around obviously or hopefully,
but obviously the giant fence that would keep the wayward
axes from Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I mean, of all the things that.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Seahawks have to do again next year, throwing axes, that's
a good one. Thanks for the laugh.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Let's see from Bill Ryberg three six so did not
run the ball because the old line is subpar Schneider problem.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, hey, I do.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Think Ryan Grubb in Games had and he said this
after the Giants game, and I ran the quote in
the News Tribune story I wrote yesterday. We ran it
after Giants game. He said, it's not like we didn't
have a lot of runs in the game plan.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I just didn't call them. Well, why was that?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Because he thought during the game, I can't run against
these guys. And you could see it during games.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He'd run a couple times and it was second and
nine or second and eleven, and that was it. I'm
not doing this.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
My best chance to win is to throw the ball,
and over time that gets a reputation around the league
of we're not even gonna pay attention to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Your run game. We're just gonna tee off on your quarterback.
And that's what McDonald's trying to get away from. But
to the Texter's point, and the next offensive coordinator is
gonna have the same problem. If you have the same cast,
with the same decision makers making the same choices on
the same offensive line, that is Humanlan would say, is
the definition of insanity. So something has to change for
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the new offensive coordinator to succeed with the offensive line.
That Seattle has. The decision making, the choice, the choosing,
the drafting, the philosophy, who's in charge of those decisions,
all of that. If you do any of it the same,
you're gonna get the same product. I mean, come on,
even Olo with Timmy, who improved by all accounts to
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get the job, well I did to get the job
after Connor Williams walked out on him. Even he's not
set for next year because they had Christian Haynes practicing
center the last couple of weeks. Christian Hayes never played,
never played center, and colleague nothing. He was forty nine
straight starts at Connecticut. A guard had him at center.
I saw him taking snaps. It was during Ryan Grub's
press conference on Thursday. He's practicing shotgun steps across the
(29:23):
field from where Greg was talking. They don't think they're
not sold on Noble with Timmy either. So yeah, Chris,
it's the offensive line again. If I'm any of these candidates,
the first question I had John Schneider and Mike McConnell,
what do you doing on your offensive line? Who's deciding
that and what are you changing?
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But we'll ended on this one. From the two six,
I believe it's Grant Allen. They went and got linebackers.
How come, they didn't go and get offensive lineman because
offensive linemen aren't.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Available like that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
This is a league where if a team has a
good offensive lineman, they're not just giving him up because
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's just not happening. That's just not how the NFL
works with line and especially.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Every team would love to just be like, oh, yeah,
we'll take such and such, but they're not out there
like that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, that's just not how it is. Linebackers.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Greg you pointed out and made a perfect point that
I didn't know about. The Rams are looking for him,
for Ernest Jones to do something in regards of the pass.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
They didn't care for the run. They wanted a middle
linebacker that played the pass. That's what a guy with
the Rams told me when they came up here in Nwever.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
So you look at that an example. Okay, well, perfect
Mike McDonald wants someone that plays the run. That is
your perfect candidate. So you go out and get that guy.
Can he play the pass? Sure, hell he got an interception.
He's not terrible at it. But his strength is the
run defense. And that's what the Seahawks have been struggling
for years, was run defense. Anyone texted in all the gosh,
they cannot stop the run. Well, they did that pretty
(30:42):
good this season. And Ernest Jones and they brought him
in was a big piece of that. I know. We
had Hugh One multiple times talking about, yeah, I don't
know if there Dotson has the sand in his pants.
Basically take on the guys that were pulling. Ernest Jones
had a whole damn beach in his pants the half
of the season. So that's why transformed them. Yeah, he's
gonna get a five X rays. He's made three million
this year. We think he's gonna go from twelve to
(31:04):
fifteen million per year in a new deal that we
expect the Seahawks to do here before on before the
new league year when free agency would start for sure,
thanks to Bill three to six. H appreciate you saying
Greg Navy was amazing, don't you agree? Why you gotta
do that, Bill, because about the show was about the end,
so he thought he got the real quick jab backs.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
How the hell Navy beat Oklahoma in the bowl game.
Oklahoma was I mean again, Oklahoma's managers should beat Navy
in any game at any place. Bean, forness is right
outside my door. He's up next on ninety three point
three KJRFM. Welcome back to the show, The Greg Bell
(31:49):
Show with Christopher Kidd. We had Jery Epstein on at
the top of this hour. If you missed it, you
probably should listen to it because she listed some names
of she thinks league wide candidates to be the Seahawks
off defensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and the Cleveland Browns. Brian Johnson,
Washington commander's former Eagles offensive coordinator, Josh McCown quarterbacks coach
(32:11):
for Kevin O'Connell's Minnesota Vikings, and others.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
If you miss Josh McCown beat the Seahawks too before, Yes,
I feel like he has as a cardinal with a
bad hamstring.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't you get one of many backup quarterbacks to
come in here and beat the Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So you got to bring in McCown just for that.
That predates Mike McDonald, but yes, as you could. If
you miss that, you go the.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
iHeartRadio app download The Greg Bell Show with Christopher Kidd
or nine three three KGr dot com and you will
have the opportunity to listen to hear our discussion with
Joey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
She also talked about Tyreek Hill just flat refusing to.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Get on the field at the Dolphins game against the
Jets because he said that, well, they didn't have a
chance at the playoffs anymore, so I'm not playing. Forget
that fifty two other guys are playing, or forty six
other guys are playing. The Dolphins general manager today said
that Hill did not ask a trade for a trade
in a meeting and exit with the team following their
season ending lost to the Jets on Sunday. They didn't
(33:05):
make the playoffs, first time in Hill's career. A former
kannessity chief did not make the playoffs. Infinet's the Mayor
and Maple Valley the greaty Infants. I have not seen
him in days. I've seen him right now, sir, Well, sir,
how are you good? He had no or in about
ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I am.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And I know you're airing the broadcast Mike Donald press
conference at one o'clock live. If I'm not mistaken, Can
I put in a request?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I mean, I'm sure he won't answer it, honestly, but
we do have audio of it somewhere, and you have
quotes written down somewhere. Ryan Greb was hired by John Schneider. Correct,
I want McDonald to admit that. Yeah, he won't do that,
but I'd like it. I'd like the question to be asked.
I hope somebody asked, like, because well, I mean, he
said it. John Schnader said, I'm hiring the coaches entire staff.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
He said, I was. I was there, as were you.
He said, I have the authority over coaching staff for
the first time. Yeah. So that's why when I wake,
I think there's a follow up that was like, like
the whole staff assistance. He said, yes, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So that's why yesterday when I got to retin, I
wanted to find out this John Schnyder's called a fire
grub or was it Mike McDonald And a person who
absolutely would know directly know looked at me and said,
Mike McDonald made.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
This decision, but Snyder had to sign off on sure,
he supported it. Yeah, and Mike McDonald's going to make
this higher, right she didn't make the last time. Yeah.
I don't know if I.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Not as intimately involved as I used to be with
that particular organization and traveling and doing everything like like
you guys are now but I did check with someone
who I used to get some really good stuff from
along the way, and I would just say that I
brought it up in the air. Yesterday they said that
there was a thought they're gonna fire him during the
bi week. Yeah, he thought about that. It was a
bye week. Was they were going to fire Grub during
the bye week? For all those thinking that, it was
like oh this, no, no, it was it went that
(34:46):
was week eight.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, I think week five the Giants when he only
gave them all five times. Yeah, Kinneth Walker was there.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They were going to fire him. Who would be the
internal repeat that would have been?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That would have been the internal move the past game
coordinator Okay, yeah, he was a U was offensive coordinator
in twenty twenty one. Okay, he's had experience in the
NFL as an offensive assistant. But he would have been
the internal promotion.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Okay, because that's what I was wanted, because when I
heard that, I thought, well, did they even have anybody
that's okay, there was somebody that was capable of doing it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Jake Peats is the in house candidate, the one I
could see being a viable choice, but again, he's not
had an NFL play calling experience. But they've just gone
down that road, right. Jerry Epstein brought up some names
that I hadn't thought about. She had a ton of names.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
She did, she was ready. She had a ton of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Brian Johnson, the former offensive coordinator who didn't really call
a lot of plays in Philadelphia, now Washington, Ken Dorsey, Cleveland. Yeah,
Nick Casey, the tight ends pasking coordinator for the Rams.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Dorsey is the one that Dorsey has the Cleveland stink
on him. But I thought she had a good point
right that that. I mean the Shawn's of Garbage Gong Show,
Chubb and Jerome Brown are herd.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
They still run even when the guys are hurt. Cleveland
does run. And she also made a good pointing. And
I thought around the league, the Seahawks offensive coordinator job
seen as attractive because you could be the head coach of.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
The offense because of Mike McDonald, which is what.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
We talked about when Grubb got higher, like it made
like that's why he would leave, even though he had
already established himself for a few days or a couple
of weeks down in Tusco, loose, They're like, oh, you're
gonna leave that. Well, wht because you're head coach of
the an NFL offense. Yeah, it was interesting yesterday. I
still wonder out loud. I'm not sure what you think
(36:23):
of this. I Ryan Grubb because of the success he
had at Washington unparalleled six I mean just unrivaled success, right,
I mean he had the best college offense in the
country two years in a row for the school that's here.
They went to the National championship game. Uh So, there
was a lot of people disagreeing with it. I wonder
if Ryan Grubb's name would have been you know, Ryan Johnson,
if people would have cared or if they would have
(36:45):
been more on board with it. Yeah, you know, he's like,
he's our guy. Well yeah he was for two years.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, the same guy that they could have had a
parade down Westlake Avenue for a year ago. Today. Yes, yeah, yes, absolutely. So.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
You know, if it's not work and I applaud them,
said this yesterday, I'll say it again about there's two
teams in this town. Fact think we're all even wrote
about day. Thanks for Mike, thanks for listening to show yesterday.
Two teams in town that if things aren't working, they
make a move.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And that's a sea us in the cracket. They don't
care money feelings. It's pro sports. I love that about
those two teams.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Donald cut his leading tackler in the middle of the season.
M hm, you're right, they don't care. Oh, Pete Carroll
got fired after winning a Super Bowl. Here they don't care,
which is good. If you're a fan, you should be
thrilled with that. Even if you have affinities for Mike,
for Ryan Grebb, you should.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Be thrilled with that. That's true. So, yeah, what do
you have today?
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Well, obviously caring in the news conference with McDonald one,
it's not you know, end of the season coach news
conferences aren't much of a thing.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Usually today will be one. Today will be one. You
guys will be out there firing questions anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And here's the other thing about this press conference is
we will be asked him GM type questions because we
don't get to talk to the general managers to.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Talk about accountability. In the first segment, lack thereof for
two people in that organization. He's one quarterbacks, the other
one really disappointing yesterday the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Oh, the whole incentive causes and everything else. No, not
being accountable to answer questions the football team. Yeah he was.
He wasn't the only one. There were a lot of
veterans who just he's the quarterback. So the way that
worked was they.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Knew the media was in the room from tend to leven.
I was the only beat writer there, so it wouldn't
have been I would have been the only one asked
him to be the writer question. But I mean there
were other reporters there, but only the day to day people.
They were still coming back from Los Angeles, but they
went a lot of guys went straight from the off
limits era into the team meeting.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
I knew that was going to happen. Yeah, so I
will talk about that. I think it's garbage. It's garbage.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I will say. Russell Wilson never did that. Yeah, Russell
Wilson sat at his locker room. We were in there,
all right, have a go, have a good time over it.
I'll be listening in an hour, I know you will.
John Ryan twelve twenty as well, John Ryan twelve to that.
That'll be fun.
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If you miss Joey Epstein listing some interesting candidates for
the Seattle Seahawks head offensive coordinator play caller job, go
to the iHeartRadio app downloaded Greg Belt Show with Christopher
(39:25):
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The Seahawks are having a one pm press conference today,
not to name the new offensive Coordinara or not yet.
It's to talk to a head coach Mike McDonald, where
the questions will undoubtedly be all over the offensive coordinator situation,
why you fired Ryan Greb, and what he's looking for
in the new assis new play caller an offensive coordinator,
I'm going to ask him his prerequisite for having called
(01:26):
plays in the NFL in play for this higher because
it didn't work out last time with one who did
not ever have NFL play calling experience. That's at one
o'clock today. You'll see the stories at the News Tribute
dot com and on Twitter. Exit g Bill Seattle. NFL
draft orders said Seahawks are eighteenth. The NFL playoffs are
set the Chargers at the Texans Saturday at one thirty,
(01:47):
Pittsburgh at Baltimore five pm. Saturday Sunday, Denver at Buffalo
ten am, Green Bay at Philadelphia one thirty, Washington at
Tampa Bay at five. The Sunday night game Monday night,
the playoff game is Minnesota at the Los Angeles Ram.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Of course, the Chiefs and the Lions have first round.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Buys the top seeds in the AFC and NFC, respectively.
The Titans today fired general manager Ran Carton after Tennessee
went three and fourteen this season. The Titans say Brian
Callahan's remaining their head coach after that one season in
Nashville the Kraken. They lost again last night at home
three two to New Jersey on a goal early in
the third period. Adam Larson and Shane Wright scored for Seattle.
(02:23):
Philip Grubauer twenty six saves starting while Joey Decord was
put on injured reserve and an upper body injury. You
heard Mike Benton say last half hour it's a bruising
upper body injury retroactive to before the new year, so
he could come back.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Mike says potentially by this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
With kracking that they played Columbus here on ninety three
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the Miami Orange Bowl Friday the Cotton Bowl between Ohio
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good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Where you are Jory, Good morning, good afternoon, Greg christ
How guy?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
We are well? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Now that the dust has settled on a wild Monday
for the Seahawks with firing up Ryan Greb's offensive coordinator.
Let's start there when you thank offensive coordinator and you
think of guys who have experienced play.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Calling in the NIA, who do you think might fit
the Seattle job?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And at Doug Peterson after being a super Bowl champion
head coach with the Eagles, a head coach with Jacksonville
until Monday, would he possibly want to come home and
do that?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You think, yeah, I think that would be an interesting question.
If I were the Seahawks will seeing at Doug Peterson,
I would want to make sure that Doug Peterson, rather
than Press Taylor is calling his place. I think that
was a big question, first in Philadelphia and then in Jacksonville,
where he continued to let Press Taylor call his plays,
perhaps to some people chagrin. I think what's interesting also
(04:34):
is that some of the best candidates, like Josh McCown
I think will be really interesting Nick Cayley with the Rams.
Those are some guys who don't have Play Colley experience
who if I were Seattle, I would interview, But we're
not play Colley experience. I mean again, in addition to
Doug Peterson, you've got Frank Greig, You've got a guy
like Anthony Lynn, who has spent this year with Washington.
Dan Quinn really valued what he was able to do
to support that organization, and clearly what they've done with
(04:57):
Jane Dandils has worked. And then the grounds parting ways
with Ken Dorsey. I mean, I don't think that was
a reflection of Ken Dorsey not being an effective offensive coordinator.
I think it was a reflection of the Brown hiring
the guy who had a different offensive vision than Kevin
Stefanski and they didn't figure it out. But when Ken
Dorsey started calling plays for Cleveland this year after Sean
Watson got hurt, the offense looked better, and I think
(05:19):
that was reflective of a play calling element, not just
a personnel element.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Were you when you talk to people around the league, Joy,
or even your perception from New York of Seattle, what
is your perception of Mike McDonald the job, the direction
of the team, and where the Seahawks sit right now,
a ten win team not in the playoffs. Is it
an attractive place that an offensive coordinator would come to
call plays.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think it's an attractive place. And I think it's
also interesting anytime you have a defensive head coachicular and
you can be sort of the head coach of the offense.
There are definitely guys who would want something like that
as opposed to being the guy under Sean McVay or
Andy Reid, where yeah, you're the offensive coordinator, but you
don't really have the opportunity to call plays and run
your offense. And I think, I mean again, even another
(06:03):
name that would be interesting Brian Johnson, who's also on
that Washington staff that's overperformed when he was in Philly.
He was kind of like, oh, was it his offense
or was it Nick Fury on The's offense? And I
think that Brian hasn't called his offense yet, and so
I think that, to me, is one of the most
attractive parts of the job.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
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Speaker 4 (06:29):
Jory, I'm curious with the Steelers. They've lost four straight games.
They're going into the playoffs, going to take on the
Baltimore Ravens. If I think everyone's picking the Ravens to win. Hell, Jory,
who you got winning that game?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Definitely. Okay. So with that being said.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Is Mike Tomlin is his job on the line if
they do end up losing that game and he's out
of the playoffs yet again.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It is so funny because I understand the importance of
momentum and the Stephanie coaches. But I think like two
months ago, three months ago over and they're saying Mike
Tomlin should be coach of the year. Now it's his
job on the line. I think when you look at
how Pittsburgh runs the organization and how long Mike Tomlin
has been there, I don't expect them to say we
want you out. I think the question is, does Mike
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Tomlin go to ownership and say, hey, maybe it's better
forever and to get a fresh voice. I was joking
with someone yesterday that if Mike Tomlin and Mike McCarthy
just switched place as McCarthy's from Pittsburgh the bill. I
think they're both great coaches and coaches who might benefit
from a new perspective and change of scenery and just
a chance to be a fresh voice in your room.
(07:36):
And so to me, that's more the question. And again,
there are definitely people who think that Mike Tomlin could
be one of the better options for the Chicago Bears
if he becomes available, And when asked today whether they
would consider giving up drafts capital for a coach, Bears
General manager Ryan pul said they would explore everything and
he did not.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Rule that out the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Let me remind you, as a Pittsburgh, Airy native, the
Steelers have had three head coaches in my lifetime and
I'm fifty five years old. Three since nineteen sixty nine.
Chuck No, Bill Kawer, Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's it. He ain't going everywhere anywhere. That guy's a magician, right.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
They're not kicking him out a losing season though, so
you've got to give him some credits.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The Jets have just announced they have completed an interview
with Rex Ryan for the head coaching position. Rex Ryan
last coached the Jets what was it two thousand and
nine through the fourteen season, and then I think his
last stint was with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is this a good movie thing? Going back after they're old?
Tell you what Aaron Rodgers would be hell out of there?
If Rex Ryan comes back. Is that a good move
for the Jets going after wreck? You think yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think What amazed me is that Rex Ryan said
publicly on the record, if I go there, we're getting
rid of the country club and Aaron Rodgers. He's going
to have to like follow a different set of roles
and I'm like, look, I don't think he's likely to
be back, but you don't have an answer quarterback after
him yet, So is that really your best mood to
a We need a quarterback who we know has a
long memory and has a pension for holding brudges.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I don't think the Jets care at this point. Now.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
They want to win. They want to get to the playoff.
Excuse me, Jory tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean, come on, if a player just refuses to
come into a game, and Mike McDaniel didn't sound very
happy about it after the game. You were at the
game in the Meadowlands against the Jets. Can you see
any way tyreek Hill comes back to Miami. Of course,
that's what hi'll's trying to engineer here to get out
of there. But if you're a teammate, why would you
want to be in the locker room with that guy?
And if you're a coach, why would you want to
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coach him?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Look, I think your emotions after the game, and I
give Mike McDaniel credit actually for how he handled it
when he's like, I'm not going to engage in the guy,
and he's engaged with the guy in the heat of
the moment when he's that emotional. Dolphin's general manager Chriser
did say today that Tyreek him and officially asked out,
we have to remember here is it's not really up
to Tyreek right now. If he's under contract, Dlphins told
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his rights and so to me, you're Tyreek, that's great
for you to say that. That's great for you to
be frustrated that your quarterback got hurt, you didn't make
the playoffs for the first time in your career. But
that doesn't mean you get to leave. Well, you could leave,
but you can't play somewhere else unless the Dolphins agree
to it, and I would imagine they would want a
pretty significant haul. I also think that to the question
of do you want to play with someone who doesn't
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want to be there and coach someone who doesn't want
to be there. We see this all the time when
guys get in trouble off the field and it's kind
of like, hey, if you are like an average player
or not good, they say, well, you know what, we
just don't tolerate that kind of person in the organization.
If you're tire tail, they'll tolerate you. Only've seen that
with his fool of off field concertain So yes, they
still want to play with the talent like him and
(10:40):
the seeds like him.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And if the Dolphins did want to trade him, he'd
have a ton of suitors in across the league.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Obviously, when you look back at it, when Tyreek was
stating how he believes that Tua can throw the ball
better than Patrick Mahomes, do you think he looks back
and probably regrets those comments, considering unfortunately the injuries and
how the seasons have gone with the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And then you look at the chief.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, yeah, I don't think there's really a downside to
a guy now she's for the player on his team.
I mean, would most people say that about a quarterback
they previously played with and won a Super Bowl with.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I've also interviewed Tyreek Hill. I've interviewed him in Kansas City,
and I've interviewed him in Miami, and pretty much everything
comes out of his mouth and sometimes the opposite us too,
And so everyone involved here notes that this is just
Tyreek being Tyreek. I don't think Mahomes is losing any
sleepover there.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Four Tom were text Islands game time is totally time,
just textan could you let Joy know how much I
look forward to her segment with you.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
She's a great exclamation point. That's a nice thanks, guys,
You're welcome. I want to make sure you heard that
this is Joey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
She is every week on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline thanks
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Speaker 2 (11:50):
Dot con Jory.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Did Aaron Glenn get a raw deal in New England?
It's not like he had a stacked roster. Bill Belichick's
departure left and with.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah. I was watching Robert Craft's press conference yesterday
and I was just I mean, look, credit to Robert
Kraft for saying that he feels terrible, this was his
fault and he puts your odd in an untenable situation.
But I think, to me, the way I look at
it is Gion Mayo made mistakes this year, so have
all of us. I think you have the crude us
to you and maybe you should consider whether you're being
(12:20):
honest with yourself. But I think that when you look
at Gion Mayo, he wasn't credit to succeed and he
was set up to fail. The two things that really
fuck out to me about Robert Craft's press conference was
first of all, he said, we've been bad at the
draft for a long time. Okay, well, if you're bad
at the draft for a long time, which by the way,
was primarily Bill Belichick's fault, you don't have the talent
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to win, which everyone going into the season bought. New
England didn't have the talent. I think going into this season,
like Chicago, for example, people had high hopes friend that
was a problem for them relative to their expectations, but
people did not think that New England has the talent.
Their offensive line was disastrous, and you cannot have an
offense without the offensive line, so with no surprise that
they were bottom three in pretty much all the offensive metrics.
(13:03):
The second thing that Robert Kraft said when he talked
about why he only gave to her on one year
is he said, we saw what happened last year in
twenty twenty three when we only won four games. We
saw what happened this year we only won four games,
and when I see their aggression, I don't want to
do this again in twenty twenty five. I agree that
regressing is bad and that for better and worse, these
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NFL teams are often judged by how by their trajectory
over the course of the season, not just the results,
but to start drugs clock a year before he got
the job, to me is just so unfair, and so
I think that when the next coach comes in, Robert
Kraft is really going to have to look honestly at Hey,
what downsize or what disadvantages do we have from Bill Belichick?
(13:46):
And how can we be honest about those? Because I mean,
even with the front office and a lot of the opergations,
like Bill Belichick was doing so many things that when
he leaves and you hire a coach, well, Bill Belichick
was a lot more than a coach, and I think
until they're honest about that, they're not going to be
able to fairly assass any coach in that building.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Trod Maya should hire you as his agent. You are
impassionate about how unfairly he was treated in New England.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I don't think Look, he didn't he didn't have a
great season, and I do think he made comments he
shouldn't have made, and he made coaching decisions he shouldn't
have made. But also I just don't think there was
any way in which he was going to succeed based
on the criteria that Robert pat S got out, I agree.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
With you, the Kobe Brissette was not exactly a path
to success there to be in the season for Drod Mayor.
Did Aaron Glenn just get himself a head coaching job
with what he did that Sam Darnold and Vikings as
the Lions DC the other night.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I think he raised his profile, but I think he
was pretty high beforehand. I mean, to see what the
Lion's defense has done throughout the last few years, this
year and then in the last few weeks, I mean,
I guess they had one of their best performance of
if not beaver best performance against the Vikings. But to me,
each week I kept being like, oh no, they're playing
a really good, a better team. Now what are they
(14:57):
going to do with all of their injuries? And every
week he had an answer. So yes, I fully expressed
him to be a head coach, and I think there
are going to be several teams who wants him and
that he's going to have his pick a mind trucks.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love how he just goes man coverage and just
plasters dudes and just as our guys are better than
you any it's it's like a player's mentality. Of course,
Aaron Glynn once was famously with the Jets and others.
Jorry Epstein, senior NFL writer for y'all Who Sports, joining
us as he does every Tuesday, Hero and the Beacon
plumbing highlight thanks to the Zeek's Pizza and Zeek's Pizza
dot Com. Okay, Jory, prognostication time. What do you think
(15:31):
is going to happen this weekend in the first round
of the plass? I think Green Bay has a really
legit shot at the Eagles, especially with the Jalen Hurts situation,
depending on how banged up he is. But where do
you see this weekend going?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Do you? First of all, what do you what do
you see going in the Packers Eagles game on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, it's so interesting. I'll be at that game. I'll
be in Philadelphia for it on Sunday. And I think
what's so fun for me is like, this is a
rematch of the season opener with Packers Eagles and show
in Brazil. And I would say at that point the
Eagles won, that they were a much worse team than
they are now now. Grant is the main the main
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question to me is whether Jalen Hurts is healthy and playing.
But if he is available in playing and even at
like sixty to seventy percent health, now I'm not paying
fifty to seventy percent recover from his concussion because I
want one hundred percent before you're out of that. But
if he is sixty to seventy percent as effective as
he usually is, I think the Eagles are much better team.
And Green Bays also had its share of quarterbacks health problems.
(16:29):
I mean both their quarterbacks had versions of the injuries
last week. So I think when you look at this team,
the Eagles offensive staffed and the defense that was really
still figuring out that Sangio the first time they played
has rounded into form. So I would expect the Eagles.
But if Jalen Hurts says some play, then I think it's.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
A tox up.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
But I'm not even sure that the Eagles will lose
without Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You're right about the Packers. That's a tough first round
match with the Packers. They're really well round the team out.
They got Aaron Jones running the ball. The Chargers in
the afe Jory, I could see them. I mean if
they win this game, there's a good chance they're going
to play at the Chiefs, depending if the lower seed
than them wins this weekend, which seems unlikely. So I
think they're going to boat Raise Texas or Houston in
(17:13):
Texas this weekend. Did you see Jim Harbaugh in that
defense and the way Herbert is playing under Harbaugh as
a threat to the Chiefs in round two if it
gets there.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh that's interesting. I mean, a threat maybe, But I
am not betting against Patrick Mahomes until he gives this
reason too. I think that again, everyone last year studying
against him when he had to be on the road
and this and that, and what did he do? I
went to Buffalo, and when I was in Buffalo and
in Baltimore when he just went on the road. He
didn't play perfect games, but he always figured out a
way to win. And that was after they had a
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much worse statistical season and records season than they had
this year. I understand they're winning games late, but they're
winning all of their games. So yeah, I don't think
that the Chargers would win, but I do think it
would be a good game.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You, ma'am, are going to the best game of the
weekend trip to Philadelphia and Packers and Eagles, and we'll
talk about what you found and everything else in the
NFL next Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's always thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Great tak you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Srey Epstein, Senior NFL writer with the Yahoo Sports Thanks
to Zeke's Pizza and Zekespizza dot com. She rattled off
a list of names that not a lot of people
are talking about in Seattle right now, Nick Hayley, the Rams,
Ken Dorsey, the Cleveland offensive coordinator, Brian Johnson, and Washington
Josh McCown, the quarterbacks coach for the Minnesota Vikings, as
potential candidates. And her point is really interesting about being
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the head coach of the offense. I thought that's a
really good way to put it. When you have thirty
seven year old Mike McDonald as the head coach out
here in Seattle, an offensive mind would see this as
an opportunity to be the head coach of the offense
here rather than say, being Kevin O'Connell's like offense cordnator
when you're not gonna call plays in Minnesota, for instance.
(18:53):
So that is that's in her point is that that
makes Seattle's offensive coordinator job more attractive than maybe some
others around the league. And those are names that bear
some mentioning when you think of it in that lens,
I think, yeah, I you don't sound real excited when
I start saying Ken Dorsey.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Well, I just don't know much. I need to go
and see what they're all about. We read on them
and what their offenses look like. Right, just because Cleveland
runs the ball even when Chubb wasn't in there, they Yeah,
that is true, but that's an interesting one for sure.
I know the weapons that they have were not what
the Seahawks have, so that changes a lot of They
don't have Geno r quarterback, so yeah, that bringing that
(19:32):
in could be beneficial. But then, as you mentioned, it
doesn't matter until you get an offensive line.
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Speaker 4 (21:08):
When it's game time. It's Pully time from the five
six two our guy Teddy ball game.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Greg.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I listened to you at seven am with Chuck and
Buck and Nash in the morning and you just said
that if you didn't perform, you're gone.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So explain this.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Seahawks lose to Detroit because defensive failure, not grub. You
lose to the Giants because special teams, not grub. Lost
to Rams because of defense, not grub. QB mailedown during
the Bills game, not grub, but head coach did nothing.
Grub should have gotten them twelve to thirteen wins. Sounds
to me that the wrong coach got canned.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well that's thanks, Teddy. Good to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And that's a perception of like for instance, I think
the Giants game was lost by the offense and the
fact that they couldn't convert a fourth and one because
they can't run the ball, and Brian Burns just spat
on the play action fake. We've talked about this a
couple of times and just went straight at Gino Smith
on fourth and one when they're trying to run a bootleg. No,
no chance they were gonna The Giants were going to
honor the run fig because Seahorwks didn't run the ball
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five carries that day and fifty eight pass calls, five
carries for Kenneth Walker. I'd say the offense was the
reason they lost to the Giants, and the defense in
the beginning of the year, Chris is not the defense.
At the end, it was like two different teams. Yeah,
they got outscored by the Lions. A lot of teams do.
Was it forty three to twenty nine or whatever? The
final twenty nine points by the offense. The offense wasn't
the problem that night, but Gino Smith always flights up
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the Lions, and the lions man defense plays into the
Seahawks' strengths.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Everybody else in the league this season played too high
shell coverage Cloud not the Lions. Lion said, we're manning
up against you guys in Metcalf and Jet Smiths and
Jigman Lockett that field day. Every year, the same thing
happens when they go to play Detroit. So I don't
I don't necessarily.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Agree with the fact that Ryan Greb was blameless in
those particular instances. But well, Mike mnhold was going to
fire himself, and they're not going to fire Mike McDonald
one season with what he's built in building and in
fact they won ten games and had a defense and
for the.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Last half of the season was the best defense in
the NFL. That's how I see that.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
From the four two five, I would like to see
Doug Peterson as the new Seahawks Offen as the coordinator
as well as the five oh nine.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
They also say Doug Pete he I was gonna say
here or see it's not alone in thinking that. Yep,
that is true. Hort and Bellingham raised in Ferndale.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
There's there is that, But we'll see what he would
want to do that and whether that's even an option.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
From the four two five, when can you guys start
hammering away on the Mariners offseason. I'm a piss poorly
ran organization we have. You know I need two minutes
into the show.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
We got our first Mariner reference.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, you know, Greg and I can't wait. It's the
Seahawks season is over, so you know after today. To
be honest, Greg and I could honestly open the show
tomorrow with a little bit of you know what, we.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Should open the show tomorrow with all the major huge
signings the Mariners have made since you can't how many
sorry not zero? No way? What yeah you said how
many zero? There you go, wonder when you get that.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
You serious from the three to six? Soh Yes, the
Giants had a great offensive year. We win ten games.
Hang on the Giants. Let me finish reading this. We
win ten games and you get fired. That would be
like your ratings being the highest on KJR and get
getting fired. Yes, the Giants had a great offensive year.
I don't know about that. He's being sarcastic. Well, I
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didn't read into that. John and Jerry, we're talking about
Mike cast you. Well, yeah, but I think the play
calling is fine. If, for instance, if the Seahawks have
a good offensive line, we're not having this discussion. You
know why, because Grubs probably they win the NFC West, right.
The Giants are just a poor organization. So it doesn't
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matter what Brian Dayball and the offensive coordinator call out there,
it's not going to get executed. Now against the Seahawks,
the executor just fine. Daniel Jones, damn there could have
got a contract from the Seahawk because he played so well.
He did, so that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
That's neither here nor there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
That that's the point I would make in that you
put twenty nine on it, right, I mean outside the
special teams touchdown, they scored what twenty two points?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So that's that's kind of crazy to think about. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Two five, three says you w fans. You dub fans
are the only ones saying Grubs shouldn't have been fired.
I was the worst of c in the league by
a mile. Take the purple glasses off, puppies.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I love the glasses. I'm a koog.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So you you ain't got war about that wasn't from
the five O nine areas from the three six. So Chris,
you think the defense was good this year? Did you
watch Jimmy g pass for three fifty for the season.
I'm not going to kill him for one bad game.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, they screen passed loose at them.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
They did not play their best game by the end
of the season, sure, but overall they improved.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's my point.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I'm not talking about that one game because yes, that
one didn't even matter. They could have lost, and yeah
it would have been bad, but it doesn't matter. It
wouldn't hurt them. If they win, it doesn't matter. I'm
gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Four two five.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Does Michael Dixon rest up a lot of three and
outs next year since John meaning Snyder can't draft to
acquire offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Speaking of the Koogs four two five, I ran to
the Koog basketball player Antonio Chambers from zero five team,
and he's the head coach of the girls varsity team
for Redmond High School. They're ten and oh, okay, go.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Go go coops, not out to the Mustang.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That's cool man ten and oh maybe they can go
and defeated. We shall see, Greg and kid. Here's my
prediction for the college playoffs after the following year. They'll
have to go sixteen teams, which I think Greg you
might have already alluded to. Oh it's coming, and the
first round impossible. The second round will be at the
home schools facility. Obviously, I have to adjust the time
from I'm sign me up.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, that was gonna be playing college football past the
Super Bowl where they keep expanding the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh yeah, sign me up though, I'm I'm in.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Greg asked Mike if they're bringing back their throwing acts
a game this year.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's a good memory for those of you that forgot.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
When we were broadcasting from Seahawks training camp, I was
amazed to find that they were throwing axes fans.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
They were real axes.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That it was about thirty feet to our left from
a broadcast position, to the side of the field, and
they had a giant black fence around obviously or hopefully,
but obviously the giant fence that would keep the wayward
axes from Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I mean, of all the things that.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Seahawks have to do again next year, throwing axes, that's
a good one. Thanks for the laugh.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Let's see from Bill Ryberg three six so did not
run the ball because the old line is subpar Schneider problem.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, hey, I do.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Think Ryan Grubb in Games had and he said this
after the Giants game, and I ran the quote in
the News Tribune story I wrote yesterday. We ran it
after Giants game. He said, it's not like we didn't
have a lot of runs in the game plan.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I just didn't call them. Well, why was that?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Because he thought during the game, I can't run against
these guys. And you could see it during games.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He'd run a couple times and it was second and
nine or second and eleven, and that was it. I'm
not doing this.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
My best chance to win is to throw the ball,
and over time that gets a reputation around the league
of we're not even gonna pay attention to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Your run game. We're just gonna tee off on your quarterback.
And that's what McDonald's trying to get away from. But
to the Texter's point, and the next offensive coordinator is
gonna have the same problem. If you have the same cast,
with the same decision makers making the same choices on
the same offensive line, that is Humanlan would say, is
the definition of insanity. So something has to change for
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the new offensive coordinator to succeed with the offensive line.
That Seattle has. The decision making, the choice, the choosing,
the drafting, the philosophy, who's in charge of those decisions,
all of that. If you do any of it the same,
you're gonna get the same product. I mean, come on,
even Olo with Timmy, who improved by all accounts to
(29:01):
get the job, well I did to get the job
after Connor Williams walked out on him. Even he's not
set for next year because they had Christian Haynes practicing
center the last couple of weeks. Christian Hayes never played,
never played center, and colleague nothing. He was forty nine
straight starts at Connecticut. A guard had him at center.
I saw him taking snaps. It was during Ryan Grub's
press conference on Thursday. He's practicing shotgun steps across the
(29:23):
field from where Greg was talking. They don't think they're
not sold on Noble with Timmy either. So yeah, Chris,
it's the offensive line again. If I'm any of these candidates,
the first question I had John Schneider and Mike McConnell,
what do you doing on your offensive line? Who's deciding
that and what are you changing?
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But we'll ended on this one. From the two six,
I believe it's Grant Allen. They went and got linebackers.
How come, they didn't go and get offensive lineman because
offensive linemen aren't.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Available like that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
This is a league where if a team has a
good offensive lineman, they're not just giving him up because
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's just not happening. That's just not how the NFL
works with line and especially.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Every team would love to just be like, oh, yeah,
we'll take such and such, but they're not out there
like that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, that's just not how it is. Linebackers.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Greg you pointed out and made a perfect point that
I didn't know about. The Rams are looking for him,
for Ernest Jones to do something in regards of the pass.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
They didn't care for the run. They wanted a middle
linebacker that played the pass. That's what a guy with
the Rams told me when they came up here in Nwever.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
So you look at that an example. Okay, well, perfect
Mike McDonald wants someone that plays the run. That is
your perfect candidate. So you go out and get that guy.
Can he play the pass? Sure, hell he got an interception.
He's not terrible at it. But his strength is the
run defense. And that's what the Seahawks have been struggling
for years, was run defense. Anyone texted in all the gosh,
they cannot stop the run. Well, they did that pretty
(30:42):
good this season. And Ernest Jones and they brought him
in was a big piece of that. I know. We
had Hugh One multiple times talking about, yeah, I don't
know if there Dotson has the sand in his pants.
Basically take on the guys that were pulling. Ernest Jones
had a whole damn beach in his pants the half
of the season. So that's why transformed them. Yeah, he's
gonna get a five X rays. He's made three million
this year. We think he's gonna go from twelve to
(31:04):
fifteen million per year in a new deal that we
expect the Seahawks to do here before on before the
new league year when free agency would start for sure,
thanks to Bill three to six. H appreciate you saying
Greg Navy was amazing, don't you agree? Why you gotta
do that, Bill, because about the show was about the end,
so he thought he got the real quick jab backs.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
How the hell Navy beat Oklahoma in the bowl game.
Oklahoma was I mean again, Oklahoma's managers should beat Navy
in any game at any place. Bean, forness is right
outside my door. He's up next on ninety three point
three KJRFM. Welcome back to the show, The Greg Bell
(31:49):
Show with Christopher Kidd. We had Jery Epstein on at
the top of this hour. If you missed it, you
probably should listen to it because she listed some names
of she thinks league wide candidates to be the Seahawks
off defensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and the Cleveland Browns. Brian Johnson,
Washington commander's former Eagles offensive coordinator, Josh McCown quarterbacks coach
(32:11):
for Kevin O'Connell's Minnesota Vikings, and others.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
If you miss Josh McCown beat the Seahawks too before, Yes,
I feel like he has as a cardinal with a
bad hamstring.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't you get one of many backup quarterbacks to
come in here and beat the Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So you got to bring in McCown just for that.
That predates Mike McDonald, but yes, as you could. If
you miss that, you go the.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
iHeartRadio app download The Greg Bell Show with Christopher Kidd
or nine three three KGr dot com and you will
have the opportunity to listen to hear our discussion with
Joey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
She also talked about Tyreek Hill just flat refusing to.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Get on the field at the Dolphins game against the
Jets because he said that, well, they didn't have a
chance at the playoffs anymore, so I'm not playing. Forget
that fifty two other guys are playing, or forty six
other guys are playing. The Dolphins general manager today said
that Hill did not ask a trade for a trade
in a meeting and exit with the team following their
season ending lost to the Jets on Sunday. They didn't
(33:05):
make the playoffs, first time in Hill's career. A former
kannessity chief did not make the playoffs. Infinet's the Mayor
and Maple Valley the greaty Infants. I have not seen
him in days. I've seen him right now, sir, Well, sir,
how are you good? He had no or in about
ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I am.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And I know you're airing the broadcast Mike Donald press
conference at one o'clock live. If I'm not mistaken, Can
I put in a request?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I mean, I'm sure he won't answer it, honestly, but
we do have audio of it somewhere, and you have
quotes written down somewhere. Ryan Greb was hired by John Schneider. Correct,
I want McDonald to admit that. Yeah, he won't do that,
but I'd like it. I'd like the question to be asked.
I hope somebody asked, like, because well, I mean, he
said it. John Schnader said, I'm hiring the coaches entire staff.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
He said, I was. I was there, as were you.
He said, I have the authority over coaching staff for
the first time. Yeah. So that's why when I wake,
I think there's a follow up that was like, like
the whole staff assistance. He said, yes, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So that's why yesterday when I got to retin, I
wanted to find out this John Schnyder's called a fire
grub or was it Mike McDonald And a person who
absolutely would know directly know looked at me and said,
Mike McDonald made.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
This decision, but Snyder had to sign off on sure,
he supported it. Yeah, and Mike McDonald's going to make
this higher, right she didn't make the last time. Yeah.
I don't know if I.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Not as intimately involved as I used to be with
that particular organization and traveling and doing everything like like
you guys are now but I did check with someone
who I used to get some really good stuff from
along the way, and I would just say that I
brought it up in the air. Yesterday they said that
there was a thought they're gonna fire him during the
bi week. Yeah, he thought about that. It was a
bye week. Was they were going to fire Grub during
the bye week? For all those thinking that, it was
like oh this, no, no, it was it went that
(34:46):
was week eight.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, I think week five the Giants when he only
gave them all five times. Yeah, Kinneth Walker was there.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They were going to fire him. Who would be the
internal repeat that would have been?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That would have been the internal move the past game
coordinator Okay, yeah, he was a U was offensive coordinator
in twenty twenty one. Okay, he's had experience in the
NFL as an offensive assistant. But he would have been
the internal promotion.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Okay, because that's what I was wanted, because when I
heard that, I thought, well, did they even have anybody
that's okay, there was somebody that was capable of doing it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Jake Peats is the in house candidate, the one I
could see being a viable choice, but again, he's not
had an NFL play calling experience. But they've just gone
down that road, right. Jerry Epstein brought up some names
that I hadn't thought about. She had a ton of names.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
She did, she was ready. She had a ton of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Brian Johnson, the former offensive coordinator who didn't really call
a lot of plays in Philadelphia, now Washington, Ken Dorsey, Cleveland. Yeah,
Nick Casey, the tight ends pasking coordinator for the Rams.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Dorsey is the one that Dorsey has the Cleveland stink
on him. But I thought she had a good point
right that that. I mean the Shawn's of Garbage Gong Show,
Chubb and Jerome Brown are herd.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
They still run even when the guys are hurt. Cleveland
does run. And she also made a good pointing. And
I thought around the league, the Seahawks offensive coordinator job
seen as attractive because you could be the head coach of.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
The offense because of Mike McDonald, which is what.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
We talked about when Grubb got higher, like it made
like that's why he would leave, even though he had
already established himself for a few days or a couple
of weeks down in Tusco, loose, They're like, oh, you're
gonna leave that. Well, wht because you're head coach of
the an NFL offense. Yeah, it was interesting yesterday. I
still wonder out loud. I'm not sure what you think
(36:23):
of this. I Ryan Grubb because of the success he
had at Washington unparalleled six I mean just unrivaled success, right,
I mean he had the best college offense in the
country two years in a row for the school that's here.
They went to the National championship game. Uh So, there
was a lot of people disagreeing with it. I wonder
if Ryan Grubb's name would have been you know, Ryan Johnson,
if people would have cared or if they would have
(36:45):
been more on board with it. Yeah, you know, he's like,
he's our guy. Well yeah he was for two years.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, the same guy that they could have had a
parade down Westlake Avenue for a year ago. Today. Yes, yeah, yes, absolutely. So.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
You know, if it's not work and I applaud them,
said this yesterday, I'll say it again about there's two
teams in this town. Fact think we're all even wrote
about day. Thanks for Mike, thanks for listening to show yesterday.
Two teams in town that if things aren't working, they
make a move.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And that's a sea us in the cracket. They don't
care money feelings. It's pro sports. I love that about
those two teams.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Donald cut his leading tackler in the middle of the season.
M hm, you're right, they don't care. Oh, Pete Carroll
got fired after winning a Super Bowl. Here they don't care,
which is good. If you're a fan, you should be
thrilled with that. Even if you have affinities for Mike,
for Ryan Grebb, you should.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Be thrilled with that. That's true. So, yeah, what do
you have today?
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Well, obviously caring in the news conference with McDonald one,
it's not you know, end of the season coach news
conferences aren't much of a thing.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Usually today will be one. Today will be one. You
guys will be out there firing questions anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And here's the other thing about this press conference is
we will be asked him GM type questions because we
don't get to talk to the general managers to.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Talk about accountability. In the first segment, lack thereof for
two people in that organization. He's one quarterbacks, the other
one really disappointing yesterday the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Oh, the whole incentive causes and everything else. No, not
being accountable to answer questions the football team. Yeah he was.
He wasn't the only one. There were a lot of
veterans who just he's the quarterback. So the way that
worked was they.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Knew the media was in the room from tend to leven.
I was the only beat writer there, so it wouldn't
have been I would have been the only one asked
him to be the writer question. But I mean there
were other reporters there, but only the day to day people.
They were still coming back from Los Angeles, but they
went a lot of guys went straight from the off
limits era into the team meeting.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
I knew that was going to happen. Yeah, so I
will talk about that. I think it's garbage. It's garbage.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I will say. Russell Wilson never did that. Yeah, Russell
Wilson sat at his locker room. We were in there,
all right, have a go, have a good time over it.
I'll be listening in an hour, I know you will.
John Ryan twelve twenty as well, John Ryan twelve to that.
That'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Ian also be giving away cracking tickets every hour. When
you hear the sounder be a tenth car to two
o six two eight six ninety five ninety five. When
two tickets see the crack and he gets out, you
go Vetchkin and the Washington Capitals on January twenty thirty again.
If you miss Joey Epstein listing some interesting candidates for
the Seattle Seahawks head offensive coordinator play caller job, go
to the iHeartRadio app downloaded Greg Belt Show with Christopher
(39:25):
Kidd or KGr ninety ninety three to three KJR dot
com on the Internet and you can find that this afternoon.
Thanks for listening, I'll be here tomorrow. I'm headed to
Renton the INFINESCE is up next on ninety three point
three KJRFM.
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