October 1, 2024 • 34 mins
Gregg Bell is live from Detroit after the Seahawks fall to the Lions on Monday Night Football. The Seahawks defense was shredded as they were missing key players, Boye Mafe, Uchenna Nwosu, Byron Murphy II, and Leonard Williams. Jared Goff lights up the Seahawks defense by completing 18/18 passes, and a pair of TD's, there was no slowing down the Lions offense. But Geno Smith and the Seahawks offense were right there as well, Geno threw for 395 yards and 1 TD, overall that game showed some positives. Gregg also plays audio from Tyler Lockett and Chrisitian Haynes talking about the game.
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by frostbured corps like Cho's Chill Seahawks have mentioned career
passing night from Gino Smith most completions, throws and yards
in his twelve year career thirty eight to fifty six
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three hundred and ninety five yards. He stood in Chris
when they were barreling down on him Aiden Hutchinson a
couple times were about to be about to hit him
in the chest and he pulled up right in the
face of Lions pass rushers to complete, especially in third
down to Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Just some really brilliant
throws last night from Gino Smith. They got three rushing
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touchdowns from Kenneth Walker, as I said, and as the
return from missing two games that a bleaque injury, but
Smith and Walker couldn't play defense to five starters weren't
acted because of injury. We talked about that at length yesterday,
and then in the first half they lost a six
starter win. Pro Bowl safety Julian Love went out with
a thigh injury. A lot of guys playing more minutes
than they're supposed to. Most snaps yet for twelve year
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veteran Jonathan Hankins. Last night, Draymond Jones played seventy nine
percent of the game at outside linebacker. Here he's supposed
to be a situational pass rusher, and the Lions took
advantage eighteen for eighteen. Sorry grab.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
We got a little breaking news by the way man
Adam Schefter reporting nine time Pro Bowl offensive tackle Jason
Peters has signed with the Seahawks practice squad. So the
Seahawks are looking for some depth a tackle. I don't
know if stone Folscythe was that bad, but clearly they're
looking to bring some depth in and he's returned. So
some news on the Seahawks front that, yes, Jason Peters
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back with the Seahawks. Another stint.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, he's going to take a while before he could
be ramped up to play. He's not gonna come off
his couch again, not having played in ten months, and
go right in And you're right. Stone Forsythe again. We're
gonna talk about this later on. Stone Forsythe again held
Aiden Hutchinson without a sack. I know Hutchins's dead pressures,
but he did not bring down Geno Smith, and I
thought there were times that Stone forsythe again played really
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well against the Pro Bowl line defensive end eighteen for
eighteen passing by Jared Goff last night, tight ends burning
Seattle again, receivers running free after catches again, three rushing
touchdowns for Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery combined. So that's
how Chris, You've gained five hundred and twelve five hundred
and sixteen actually yards of offense yet still lose forty
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two twenty nine, first lost of the season for Seattle.
The night their third every four and oh start they
host the Giants. New York has four more days of
rest in Seattle does before the game Sunday at Loomanfield.
The Giants are one and three. The other min of
night game. Last night, the previously winless Titans smashed the
Dolphins at Miami in the battle of backup quarterbacks thirty.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
One toilet Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Man, that game looks better any time watching that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No, but during the broadcast they had the scoreboard up
on the left hand of left corner of the screen
and it was it just looked ugly six to zero
at halftime. I'm thinking, ew, the backup quarterback situation. Will
lev Is looked terrible. He got banged up. They also
had what Huntley for the for the Titans. He was ough.
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It was just yuck, yuck game not it didn't look
fun and based on the final score, probably wasn't fun
to watch if you're a Titans fan or Dolphins fan.
So oh yes, I was happy, more than happy to
watch the shootout between the Lions and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Miami without two it's not even the same team. Now,
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spot in the MLS Western Conference. So, Chris, you mentioned
Jason Peters, forty two years old, oldest player in the NFL,
was here for about eight weeks during the season last
year was almost more coach than anything else. Played in
a few games, but if I remember started one or
two filling in when they had all the injuries, that
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right tackle. But to your point, Stone Forsythe has played
well and he's been a steadying force on a really
shaky offensive line that again alternated at right guard last night.
But Forsythe, this is two seasons in a row now
that Aiden Hutchinson did not get a sack against Stone Foresythe.
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Forestythe played left tackle last year for Charles Cross in Detroit,
no pressures and no sacks, no quarterback hits last year
for Hudchinson. Only one of three games last year that
that happened. And then last night, Chris I thought some
of the bigger plays, the bigger passing play, especially third downs,
Hutchinson was neutralized by Forsythe and although Forsythe had ten
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pressures NFL next Gym set I said, the most by
a pass rusher in the league this year, he did
not sack Smith and some of that was Smith getting
away from it. But I thought Foresight played really well
again and he's going to hold that down until Abe
Lucas it's coming back if he's coming back again. Latest
on Abe Lucas, who was supposed to be the starting
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right tackle come off the knee injury, is that there
is an internal timetable. Coach Mike McDonald said last week
that he's not sharing Lucas is eligible to now today
come off the physical enable to perform list. You missed
a minimum of four games on that and the Seawks
has played their fourth game, but there's no sign Lucas
is coming back anytime soon. George Fant is still going
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to miss a couple more games at least on injured
reserves with his knee injury, and that's why they signed
Jason Peters. But yeah, Chris, I can't see a forty
two year old coming off his couch being ready to
play for a few weeks anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
But that shows the I don't want to use the
word desperate, but that just shows the how important this
offensive line is to do what they want to do,
whether it be running the football or throwing it. They
need some consistency. And I don't know if he's coming
in to play or if he's coming into coach, as
you mentioned, he's forty plus. Man, The dude is he's
up there in age and how long can he do this?
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I'm unsure, but if he can add value to the
offensive line, whether it's playing and or being an ear
for Stone forsythe maybe, but this just says, okay, they
still aren't pleased with what's going on with the offensive line,
and you saw a little bit of it on Monday
night against the Lions. They were not able to run
the football yet again in the first half, if I'm
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not mistaking, Kim Walker, I think had like twelve yards
maybe in the first half. It wasn't good, how about that?
And then in the second half Ken Walker he makes
some plays and the blocking was much better. I don't
know what Mike McDonald said to them in the locker room,
what Ryan Grubb did, but they were able to go
out there and they looked a little more competent. They
definitely running the football better, if I'm not mistaken what
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Kim had had two touchdowns in the same and half alone,
so you saw a little bit of the physicality in
his running style. And my goodness, all it takes is
one play for Ken That's something that I've said quite
a bit in regards to oh Who's the better running
back between Zach Charbernay and Kim Walker. I think you
see it. Every time Ken touches the ball, he can
take it to the house. He is that talented and
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he's also good out of the backfoot and catching the football.
So there's just so much with Kim Walker. If he
can stay healthy, it's a big if because man does
he play. He reminds me of Chris Carson, just physical,
but he also has another element the speed. Chris Carson
wasn't gonna break away as Kim Walker can, and he
almost did last night. He had a chance, but he
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was caught. But my goodness, man, when Ken is healthy
and the offensive line is doing really well, as you
saw in the second half, this is a really dangerous offense.
And Gino, I think he just proved that he's more
than a backup. I think now that has to you
can't say he's just a backup. My goodness. My man
almost threw for four hundred yards and it was a shootout.
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Yet again still having issues, and Gino didn't have. He
was just making it work, finding DK, finding JSM, finding Lockett,
using the Titans in play action.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
A J.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Barnot with his first career touchdown as a Seahawk. It
just shows that this offense, if the offensive line can
find some consistency, man, dare I say, they could be
a top five offense in the league. I don't know
where you stand with the greg, but the potential's there.
And it all goes back to the cliche record the
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can you leads the NFL in passing yards to four weeks?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh, it's probably Geno Smith. I had to guess after.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Two yards passing seventy two percent, completion rates seventy two
point three to be exact.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And also, I'm not even asking for an elite offensive line.
Can y'all just be average?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right? Gino? What last night? They can't live this way
throwing fifty six times?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no no. But that's
back to the running game. Be average in the run
game at minimum.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, they didn't do it the first half. They did.
What changed in the second half is on the first
drive after halftime, they had as many runs in that
drive four as they had the whole first.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Half, and the other they had eighteen.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
They had twenty two of their first twenty two plays,
eighteen were runs. Yeah, and the two of those four
runs were because they were at the one yard line
and Kenneth Walker twice and he.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Had three chots ons. My apologies, Ken did.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Total three, Yeah he did, but two of them. You're
right too in the second half. But what they didn't
give Walker the ball? Greb came out and said, we're
throwing it. Yeah, and it had this. They were chasing
the game from the start, not just with the score
but with the play calling, and I believe it. It
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showed that they really thought they could attack Detroit's corners,
so they went out and played at that. Let mean
the very of his played the game, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
He came out, Yeah, they did sideline right. They did
a really good job of attacking them. If they're going
to come out and play man the whole game, I'm
gonna take DK, i'm gonna take JSN, i'm gonna take Lockett,
I'm gonna take everyone over your defense. And that's what
it looked like. That's why Gino was five yard shiet
of four hundred yards because the Lions just stayed in
man and it worked. But obviously there needs to be
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a better balance. Obviously the DK fumble hurt, sure, but
my goodness, they were right there. They had an opportunity.
It just didn't go their way. And I think this
is a game that they'll learn a lot about themselves,
especially with the defensive line being banged up. They didn't
have they still don't have Eachinno Wosu right their best
run defender and probably pass rusher. And you saw the
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absence of u Chenna, Leonard Byron, you saw that Boye
Mafia included. You saw, damn they're really missing these dudes
up front. Gaps were in being filled. It was just
the best offense showed out and the Lions were unstoppable.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Well yeah, it's it isn't sustainable to throw fifty six times.
But to your point, Greb saw man coverage, You saw
the liabilities they had it corner and he went after them,
and it did create a chasing situation where they had
to be perfect offensively when not running the ball. And
the fumble by Metcalf absolutely changed the game. It put
him behind and they stayed behind after that fumble. They
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were driving it even to tie the game and then
fumble and returned in three or four plays later, they
score touchdown and here they are, They're Seahawks. Are and
catch up with the rest of the night. But having
said all of that, Mike McDonald was really pleased with
how the offensive line stood up and withstood the Lions
pass rush for most of the night in fifty six dropbacks.
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I mean, that's that's a taxing night for any offensive line,
especially as one as tattered and has put together and
patched together as the Seahawks have been. The fourth down
pass interference funnalty. What we're gonna talk about that next.
I have my own opinions about it. You're gonna hear
from Tyler Lockett. I talked to him in the locker
room here in Detroit last night. Gino Smith was a
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little more outspo then walkt about talking about that penalty.
They weren't thrilled either walk it or Smith's. We'll talk
about that next on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
Welcome back, Greg Best Shower, Christopher Kid, I'm live in Detroit,
flying back tonight. And then tomorrow. The Seahawks have a
regular Wednesday prep for the Sunday game against the Detroit Lions.
Short week, obviously after last night. They didn't get home
till four thirty this morning. Back to Seattle following the
lost forty two to twenty nine to the Detroit Lions
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last night, the Seahawks fall to three and one, denied
their third ever four and oh start to a season.
They were the defense that got ransacked most of the night,
finally got a stop when Ben Johnson, the Lions play caller,
who I thought was very good most of the game,
inexplicably on a third and one ran a pitch sweep
to the right after the lines are just killing the
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Seahawks between the tackles, but early in the fourth Courty
runs a pitch sweep to the right. The Seahawks speed
gets outside and stops it for a two yard loss.
So the Lions had the punt leading thirty five twenty seven,
and with nine minutes left in the game, the Seahawks
had a fourth and three at the Lions twenty eight
yard line, and that is when the game that was
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the last chance for Seattle fourth and three rollout pass
Jackson Smith and jiggit wide opening the right flat catches
the pass first down. Looks like the Seahawks have a
first intendant to thirty one, but the side official throws
a penalty flag on tyre Lord Lockett, the smallest guy
on the field, for offensive pass interference. He ran his
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route straight into the outside corner, the most outside defender
on Detroit on the Detroit left side the defense, and
then was turning as if to run an in route.
He made contact with the cornerback and as soon as
he made the contact, they threw the flag because Smith
and jigboit was so wide open. I talked to Tiler
Lockett at his locker. Michael John Duguard the athletic, and
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I both talked to him at his locker after the game,
and this is what Tyler Lockett had to say about it.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
They ended up dropping down the scoring and then goes
back to a chief position game.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Do you think then to say anything about.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Where he got a cook?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
I mean, I think I think it's a good game
for us to be a part of and be able
to have. You know, I think we played a great team.
They went out there and they played really good, and
you know, for us, we understand. We got three games
in ten days, so I mean you got just gotta
take what happened and get ready for the next game.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Sorry, I know they ask you, but have you ever
been called for anything like that your career?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Yeah, I mean they've called me from pass up here
since before or what I mean now, when I was
just trying to get into my route.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So that's what I mean, when you're running into your round.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Well, I mean sometimes they if they think it's some
type of pick or something like that, or if a
guy gets wide open like that, they automatically think it's
gonna be some.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Type of what said you pick?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh I didn't talk yet.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I want to go.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I just ran my route. Did you offense feel like
you're chasing the game all right? That you were?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I mean I think we did pretty good as a offense.
I mean it's easy to say that you're chasing if you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Know you're losing.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
But I mean I think we did a great job
moving the ball. You know, of course we could be
able to uh you know, we gotta work on being
able to finish in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But I think we did a great job just.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Being able to move the ball, keeping off their toes,
kind of getting into our little stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So definitely wants.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
School to go.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
If you are to say he just ran them round, right, yeah,
that's that's just one of those things. You know, after
watching the replay over and over again, it I would
love for Tyler to just run a route per se. Uh,
That's kind of how I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
There was contact there.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
This gets tricky, Greg because.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Because Gino Smithson there was no content.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, that's Gino's one hundred percent rides. I think Gino
was just in the in the moment upset. I get it, okay,
but I just wanted because Tyler's been he's done this before,
and he hasn't been called for flax and maybe he's
made so I think the difference was it really didn't
look like a the best route from Tyler Lockett is all.
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I would say. We've seen him do this so many
times they run they'd famous for pick plays on big
third conversion third down when they need a third down conversion,
And in this particular instance, I thought he could have
ran a better route and try to make it seem
as if he's not trying to run into him. Hell,
even in Week one against the Denver Broncos. When the
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Seahawks run that mess concept, DK does a really good
job of getting into defender's face, making Cooper, I forget
the corner's name, the white dB W, what's his name,
Riley Cooper. He has to obviously re route and try
to get under or over top of DKA, and he can't,
and that's all the separation you need. Obviously it's a
different scenario. But ty Lockett has been money before. He's
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never really just run into someone and then like, hey,
I'm just running a route. I thought he could have
done it a little better. If I'm going to nitpick,
So I don't agree with Geno saying he didn't touch him,
because clearly.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
There is content. Yeah the quote Geno Smith and I
was reading a second there was no contact.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, that's right, that's not true. That's not true. I
know you're upset you lost. Tyler Lockett didn't do the
best job of trying to clear space. And as I said,
he's done it before and there's no flag thrown. So
this time he just did a little too much. I'm
sure they will run that similar play again, and I
promise you, Tyer Loca will not touch the guy because
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I've seen it so many times.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But yeah, that's a tough one. Just to be straight,
Tyler Lockett played it. Has played in one hundred and
forty eight regular season games, seven more in the postseason,
and he's had now eight offensive pass interference penalty, so
it's not like he's never been called for it.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, what he did.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Last night is he went into the corner with both
of his hands up by his chest and it looked
like a pick. It looked like he was being a
fence instead of just running his route. He could have
influenced that outside corner, but just running at him without
contacting him and break off his route without even touching him,
and it's a first down. But the fact that he
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ran into him and that you heard Lockett's point there,
the fact that there was any contact at all, and
then whenever a receiver becomes that wide open in the
flat he at to Bockett's point, the official assumes there
must have been interference. That's why they threw the flag.
And if he doesn't initiate the contact by not even
going into the but turning and say turning a curl
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out in front of the defender, no flag, But because
he carried his route into the defender, that's where the
penalty comes in. And Gino Smith, you're right, got up
in the moment, the fact he played his butt off
and still lost. He Smith, although he said it right.
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This is what Smith's quote after the game. He said
it right about the officials, but not about to play it.
So Smith said, quote, they said he picked the guy,
and you probably could see. He pointed to us. We
all could see he made no contact with him. That's
not correct. Then then Smith just shrugged and he said,
I mean, in a situation like that, a critical drive
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like that, that's kind of sometimes a difference in these games.
He's right about that. Unfortunately, the refs got that control,
got that power, And he's right. In a close game,
a pass interference penalty often is the difference between winning
and losing. But hey, let's be straight here, four nine
four five one on the telem we're due to text line.
If you agree with me on this, Even if Jaxon
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Smith and Jigbabs catch stood, even if they get a
first down there with nine minutes left, down thirty five
twenty seven, even if they score the touchdown, we've got
now three. Ifs even if they get a two point
conversion to tie the game at thirty five, are they
going to stop the Lions? No game? No, no, no, no,
they're not.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Man, they would still have been chasing the game.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Jared Montana, that's his new name.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, eighteen eighteen, and the running game that they had,
the Lions would have scored again, no couch, and they
would still have been up forty two to thirty five,
and the Seahawks would still be chasing the game at
the end. So, having said all of this about the
past interference penalty, it didn't cost them the game. It
was a it was a reason why they didn't catch
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the Lions at any point last night in the second half.
But let's be clear that they did not cost them
the game. And I thought it was interference. I thought
it was.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I did, I did it. It sucks that was in
that moment, but you have to run around or at
least make a better attempt. He ran right there into him,
created contact, And that's just an easy call, it really is,
especially when Jsen's butt naked in the flat.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, then that was Hawckett's point is when it guys
that wide open, all right, let's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Go to the other fan.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I want to talk to the text line four nine
four five one, the Telemorto text line, the two point
conversion play.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, soon, you're.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Chasing points when you do that, even I mean, yeah,
just an understand twenty twenty for what they go for two. Now,
let's not talk about the second one, because not to
get about the one yard line. Of course you can
go for two from there. But they go for two
originally before the pass interference on Metcalf in the end
zone and they overthrow I think it was Jake Bobo
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in the left side one on one and they're down
twenty eight twenty. So now they're chasing points to the
rest of the game and they're going to have to
make that up somewhere. The analytics. Mike McDonald thirty seven
years old, youngest head coach in the league, loves analytics.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Big part of his program.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Brian Ayres, analyst for the Seahawks, is in his ear
during games about analytics, and they decided before that drive,
if we score a touchdown at this point in the game,
we're going for two. After the game, McDonald's explanation was
we wanted to win the game over in regulation. We
did not want to go to overtime to keep matching
sevens for sevens and create a tie game.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
He said.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
To the way the game was going, he wanted to
win it in regulation and that yes, they would have
to have scored it again anyway, which is all true,
but it still doesn't change the fact that you could
have chased those points when you're down one point, if
you could catch the Lions with a second touchdown without
allowing them to score going for two then cause them
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to have to go for to the rest of the game.
If you want to win the game in regulation, I'd
say you do that. When it's thirty five thirty four,
you go for two and you win there on the road.
You don't want to go overtime.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But twenty eight twenty you see my point.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
If it's twenty eight twenty six there twenty to excuse me,
twenty eight twenty seven, then you go for two.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You're going for the win.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
But by going to herd there that's an all or
nothing scenario that if it's nothing and you miss, now
you got to go for to the rest of the
game and chase those points. Analytics, it's it's here to
stay and it's some bitch part of football, but I
thought it worked against Seattle at that point middle of
the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, just keep kicking field goals, man, get a stop.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Extra points and you're gonna see met them anyway. Yeah,
and you're gonna to stop them anyway. And then if
you want to win the game, do it when you
have scored what would otherwise be a tying touchdown down
one point with the pat then you go for two,
but doing it preemptively there a touchdown before and they'd
have to score again anyway. That's not gonna be the
last we see that, because they've decided this back in February.
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They have their charts that they've made based on percentages
and probabilities, and when they're in that situation down two scores,
score a touchdown. You're going to probably see this again
during the Seahawks season, them going for two at that
stage the last quarter and a half of the game,
four nine, four to five one on the tell of them,
we'll do text line, is that a good use of analytics?
To you?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Is that a little?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Is that? Are you agreeing with me and saying that's
putting them behind Chris that you're putting your team in
chase mode, no matter what the outcome is. Right there,
four nine, four to five one, and tell them what
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Speaker 3 (29:23):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'm in still in the Motor City. It feels like
I've been here a week. Great Bella Newster Dune and
Christopher Kidd. The day after the Seahawks lose forty two
twenty nine to the Detroit Lions, both teams now three
and one. The talk here in Detroit this morning and
last night after the game was oh, we're going to
see the Seahawks again. This is a playoff preview matchup.
(29:45):
This is Mike McDonald and is postgame Prescott was asked
by I remember the Detroit media that whether he thinks
he'll see the Lions again. McDonald chuckled, and so we
got a long way to go before we start worrying
about playoffs, including the having to play the Giants on
a short week and then four days later played the
forty nine ers on a Thursday night game. That's the
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next two games here in the next nine days for Seattle.
Last night, the right guard competition changed. Prior to last night,
the most Christian Haynes had played was one drive in
New England in the first half, one drive in the
second half against the Patriots in Week two. He didn't
play at all in Week three. Last night totally different.
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He came in. Anthony Bradford started for the fourth consecutive game.
Christian Haynes entered in the second quarter and instead of
playing just one series, which they scored a touchdown on
and at that point the only two series Christian Haynes
had played in the first half of games, the Seahawks
had scored touchdowns on both of them, and at that
moment I put on ex Twitter at Gbell Seattle, why
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are you going to take him out? At this point?
They scored touchdowns every time you put him in. Well
they did. They kept in Haynes for its second consecutive
drive in the first half. He finished the half with
two consecutive drives. But then Anthony Bradford started the third quarter.
Yet from the third quarter into the fourth, when the
Seahawks made their surge to get within eight and that
fourth down pass interference penalty we just talked about with
(31:08):
Tyler Lockett, it was Christian Haynes at right guard and
it ended up Chris. The snap splitz were sixty percent
for the starter Bradford, forty snaps for Christian Haynes, his
most extensive work he had a right guard. I talked
to Christian Haynes in the locker room at Ford Field
last night, back to back running a couple of series.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
On that year.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I feel great today, get an opportunity prime time Monday night.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Really feel good.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Pretty cool moment for you in your football life. Thing.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Consider the psanche of the team to battle like that
and keep chasing the game offensively and still putting up
the yard experiment. Since you did, how do you think
overall that decided not the team but league And we.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Just wanted to keep going, Hord and play, keep playing.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Otio football and try to get keep getting back in
that game.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
You know those keep fighting and fighting and find East series.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I take a Playboy playing and just kept kept going.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Would you learn to night? If anything, I'm playing as
long as you did.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Oh, you know, just keep communicating while I'm on the field,
you know, just you know, when once I'm in the field, key,
keep going hard.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Because when I got on that field, I gotta.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Keep the momentum up, just like just like if ab
was in there and he was team driving.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
So that's Christian Haynes, the rookie third round pick from
Connecticut who got his longest run yet last night at
right guard and played well I thought, and at times
they stuck with him and we're scoring on drives that
Christian Haynes was in the game.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
We'll say where it goes from here.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I've talked to Scott huff about this, the offensive line coach,
and he said, we're gonna do it like this until
we get it right, and they aren't right yet on
the offensive line, obviously. This is the Seahawks this morning
have agreed to sign Jason Peters, forty two years old,
to their practice squad. He's the oldest player in the NFL.
He was the oldest player in the NFL last year
at forty one for them, and last year he was
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mostly a coach and an advisor in the locker room
and playing sparingly. He's been ten plus months now since
he's been on a field playing for anybody, so he's
not gonna be ready to play right away. He'll spend
a couple of weeks on the practice squad like he
did this time last year when he signed. He spent
about three weeks getting acclimated on the practice squad before
he was active for a game. So it'll still be
(33:19):
stone foresight for the time being at right tackle, and
he's our plan CEA. As we've mentioned a couple of times,
ab Lucas is eligible to come out to physically and
able to perform list, but no sign that he's going
to be doing that anytime soon.
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by frostbured corps like Cho's Chill Seahawks have mentioned career
passing night from Gino Smith most completions, throws and yards
in his twelve year career thirty eight to fifty six
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three hundred and ninety five yards. He stood in Chris
when they were barreling down on him Aiden Hutchinson a
couple times were about to be about to hit him
in the chest and he pulled up right in the
face of Lions pass rushers to complete, especially in third
down to Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Just some really brilliant
throws last night from Gino Smith. They got three rushing
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touchdowns from Kenneth Walker, as I said, and as the
return from missing two games that a bleaque injury, but
Smith and Walker couldn't play defense to five starters weren't
acted because of injury. We talked about that at length yesterday,
and then in the first half they lost a six
starter win. Pro Bowl safety Julian Love went out with
a thigh injury. A lot of guys playing more minutes
than they're supposed to. Most snaps yet for twelve year
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veteran Jonathan Hankins. Last night, Draymond Jones played seventy nine
percent of the game at outside linebacker. Here he's supposed
to be a situational pass rusher, and the Lions took
advantage eighteen for eighteen. Sorry grab.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
We got a little breaking news by the way man
Adam Schefter reporting nine time Pro Bowl offensive tackle Jason
Peters has signed with the Seahawks practice squad. So the
Seahawks are looking for some depth a tackle. I don't
know if stone Folscythe was that bad, but clearly they're
looking to bring some depth in and he's returned. So
some news on the Seahawks front that, yes, Jason Peters
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back with the Seahawks. Another stint.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, he's going to take a while before he could
be ramped up to play. He's not gonna come off
his couch again, not having played in ten months, and
go right in And you're right. Stone Forsythe again. We're
gonna talk about this later on. Stone Forsythe again held
Aiden Hutchinson without a sack. I know Hutchins's dead pressures,
but he did not bring down Geno Smith, and I
thought there were times that Stone forsythe again played really
(03:58):
well against the Pro Bowl line defensive end eighteen for
eighteen passing by Jared Goff last night, tight ends burning
Seattle again, receivers running free after catches again, three rushing
touchdowns for Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery combined. So that's
how Chris, You've gained five hundred and twelve five hundred
and sixteen actually yards of offense yet still lose forty
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two twenty nine, first lost of the season for Seattle.
The night their third every four and oh start they
host the Giants. New York has four more days of
rest in Seattle does before the game Sunday at Loomanfield.
The Giants are one and three. The other min of
night game. Last night, the previously winless Titans smashed the
Dolphins at Miami in the battle of backup quarterbacks thirty.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
One toilet Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Man, that game looks better any time watching that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No, but during the broadcast they had the scoreboard up
on the left hand of left corner of the screen
and it was it just looked ugly six to zero
at halftime. I'm thinking, ew, the backup quarterback situation. Will
lev Is looked terrible. He got banged up. They also
had what Huntley for the for the Titans. He was ough.
(05:08):
It was just yuck, yuck game not it didn't look
fun and based on the final score, probably wasn't fun
to watch if you're a Titans fan or Dolphins fan.
So oh yes, I was happy, more than happy to
watch the shootout between the Lions and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Miami without two it's not even the same team. Now,
all right, the PAC twelve, the new PAC twelve. We
used to have the Huskies and Cougars in the state
in the PAC twelve. Now we got Gonzaga and the Kougs.
The PAC twelve, the new PAC twelve. Announcing today Gonzaga
is joining the remade conference for twenty twenty six. Of course,
everything is but in football because the Zagas don't have football.
(05:45):
But now the PAC twelves at eight members. That's the
number they needed to get to to be viable by
twenty twenty six for the NCAA to recognize its champions
for college football playoffs for the NCAA basketball tournaments and
all the money that that brings. Washington State and Oregon
State did it they found. They raided the Mountain West.
Now they have Gonzaga coming on board. They've got to
(06:06):
eight and so they're gonna get twenty million each from
the old PAC twelve schools that left them behind. They
beat deadline to do that. They had a two year
grace period to do that, and they did it. They
have cobbled together a new league with Gonzaga joining the
league today. The Mets and Brays pulled a doubleheader in
Major League Baseball yesterday. Each earned playoff spots in the
National League. They eliminated the defending in National leagu champion
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Arizona Diamondbacks. So the MLB playoffs beginning today with four
games four more tomorrow. Of Game one, the Kracking lost
four to three to Calgary and overtime in a preseason game.
As I mentioned, they hosted Edmonton to Martin at Climbon
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That's the last preseason game for Seattle to Kracking over
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one week from today an afternoon one thirty puck drop
against Saint Louis. They climbed Pledgerina to begin the NHL season.
One week from today, Prose died at eighty three today,
the all time hits leader in Major League Baseball, the
Kenny Matumbo died at age fifty three of brain cancer.
Eighteen years as a center. And remember the affable, shocking,
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playful fingerweg of the Keny Matumba who passes away college football.
The Washington Huskies A three and two host Michigan Saturday,
four to thirty at Husky Stadium in a rematch of
last season's National Championship game. One to thirty pre game
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Foreign State four to one. Washington State Cougars have a
bye this week. The Sounders they host the Vancouver white
Caps tomorrow night, seven thirty on the nine to fifty
kjar AM sister station. Sounders have already clenched a playoff
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spot in the MLS Western Conference. So, Chris, you mentioned
Jason Peters, forty two years old, oldest player in the NFL,
was here for about eight weeks during the season last
year was almost more coach than anything else. Played in
a few games, but if I remember started one or
two filling in when they had all the injuries, that
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right tackle. But to your point, Stone Forsythe has played
well and he's been a steadying force on a really
shaky offensive line that again alternated at right guard last night.
But Forsythe, this is two seasons in a row now
that Aiden Hutchinson did not get a sack against Stone Foresythe.
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Forestythe played left tackle last year for Charles Cross in Detroit,
no pressures and no sacks, no quarterback hits last year
for Hudchinson. Only one of three games last year that
that happened. And then last night, Chris I thought some
of the bigger plays, the bigger passing play, especially third downs,
Hutchinson was neutralized by Forsythe and although Forsythe had ten
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pressures NFL next Gym set I said, the most by
a pass rusher in the league this year, he did
not sack Smith and some of that was Smith getting
away from it. But I thought Foresight played really well
again and he's going to hold that down until Abe
Lucas it's coming back if he's coming back again. Latest
on Abe Lucas, who was supposed to be the starting
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right tackle come off the knee injury, is that there
is an internal timetable. Coach Mike McDonald said last week
that he's not sharing Lucas is eligible to now today
come off the physical enable to perform list. You missed
a minimum of four games on that and the Seawks
has played their fourth game, but there's no sign Lucas
is coming back anytime soon. George Fant is still going
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to miss a couple more games at least on injured
reserves with his knee injury, and that's why they signed
Jason Peters. But yeah, Chris, I can't see a forty
two year old coming off his couch being ready to
play for a few weeks anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
But that shows the I don't want to use the
word desperate, but that just shows the how important this
offensive line is to do what they want to do,
whether it be running the football or throwing it. They
need some consistency. And I don't know if he's coming
in to play or if he's coming into coach, as
you mentioned, he's forty plus. Man, The dude is he's
up there in age and how long can he do this?
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I'm unsure, but if he can add value to the
offensive line, whether it's playing and or being an ear
for Stone forsythe maybe, but this just says, okay, they
still aren't pleased with what's going on with the offensive line,
and you saw a little bit of it on Monday
night against the Lions. They were not able to run
the football yet again in the first half, if I'm
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not mistaking, Kim Walker, I think had like twelve yards
maybe in the first half. It wasn't good, how about that?
And then in the second half Ken Walker he makes
some plays and the blocking was much better. I don't
know what Mike McDonald said to them in the locker room,
what Ryan Grubb did, but they were able to go
out there and they looked a little more competent. They
definitely running the football better, if I'm not mistaken what
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Kim had had two touchdowns in the same and half alone,
so you saw a little bit of the physicality in
his running style. And my goodness, all it takes is
one play for Ken That's something that I've said quite
a bit in regards to oh Who's the better running
back between Zach Charbernay and Kim Walker. I think you
see it. Every time Ken touches the ball, he can
take it to the house. He is that talented and
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he's also good out of the backfoot and catching the football.
So there's just so much with Kim Walker. If he
can stay healthy, it's a big if because man does
he play. He reminds me of Chris Carson, just physical,
but he also has another element the speed. Chris Carson
wasn't gonna break away as Kim Walker can, and he
almost did last night. He had a chance, but he
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was caught. But my goodness, man, when Ken is healthy
and the offensive line is doing really well, as you
saw in the second half, this is a really dangerous offense.
And Gino, I think he just proved that he's more
than a backup. I think now that has to you
can't say he's just a backup. My goodness. My man
almost threw for four hundred yards and it was a shootout.
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Yet again still having issues, and Gino didn't have. He
was just making it work, finding DK, finding JSM, finding Lockett,
using the Titans in play action.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
A J.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Barnot with his first career touchdown as a Seahawk. It
just shows that this offense, if the offensive line can
find some consistency, man, dare I say, they could be
a top five offense in the league. I don't know
where you stand with the greg, but the potential's there.
And it all goes back to the cliche record the
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can you leads the NFL in passing yards to four weeks?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh, it's probably Geno Smith. I had to guess after.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Two yards passing seventy two percent, completion rates seventy two
point three to be exact.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And also, I'm not even asking for an elite offensive line.
Can y'all just be average?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right? Gino? What last night? They can't live this way
throwing fifty six times?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no no. But that's
back to the running game. Be average in the run
game at minimum.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, they didn't do it the first half. They did.
What changed in the second half is on the first
drive after halftime, they had as many runs in that
drive four as they had the whole first.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Half, and the other they had eighteen.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
They had twenty two of their first twenty two plays,
eighteen were runs. Yeah, and the two of those four
runs were because they were at the one yard line
and Kenneth Walker twice and he.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Had three chots ons. My apologies, Ken did.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Total three, Yeah he did, but two of them. You're
right too in the second half. But what they didn't
give Walker the ball? Greb came out and said, we're
throwing it. Yeah, and it had this. They were chasing
the game from the start, not just with the score
but with the play calling, and I believe it. It
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showed that they really thought they could attack Detroit's corners,
so they went out and played at that. Let mean
the very of his played the game, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
He came out, Yeah, they did sideline right. They did
a really good job of attacking them. If they're going
to come out and play man the whole game, I'm
gonna take DK, i'm gonna take JSN, i'm gonna take Lockett,
I'm gonna take everyone over your defense. And that's what
it looked like. That's why Gino was five yard shiet
of four hundred yards because the Lions just stayed in
man and it worked. But obviously there needs to be
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a better balance. Obviously the DK fumble hurt, sure, but
my goodness, they were right there. They had an opportunity.
It just didn't go their way. And I think this
is a game that they'll learn a lot about themselves,
especially with the defensive line being banged up. They didn't
have they still don't have Eachinno Wosu right their best
run defender and probably pass rusher. And you saw the
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absence of u Chenna, Leonard Byron, you saw that Boye
Mafia included. You saw, damn they're really missing these dudes
up front. Gaps were in being filled. It was just
the best offense showed out and the Lions were unstoppable.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Well yeah, it's it isn't sustainable to throw fifty six times.
But to your point, Greb saw man coverage, You saw
the liabilities they had it corner and he went after them,
and it did create a chasing situation where they had
to be perfect offensively when not running the ball. And
the fumble by Metcalf absolutely changed the game. It put
him behind and they stayed behind after that fumble. They
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were driving it even to tie the game and then
fumble and returned in three or four plays later, they
score touchdown and here they are, They're Seahawks. Are and
catch up with the rest of the night. But having
said all of that, Mike McDonald was really pleased with
how the offensive line stood up and withstood the Lions
pass rush for most of the night in fifty six dropbacks.
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I mean, that's that's a taxing night for any offensive line,
especially as one as tattered and has put together and
patched together as the Seahawks have been. The fourth down
pass interference funnalty. What we're gonna talk about that next.
I have my own opinions about it. You're gonna hear
from Tyler Lockett. I talked to him in the locker
room here in Detroit last night. Gino Smith was a
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little more outspo then walkt about talking about that penalty.
They weren't thrilled either walk it or Smith's. We'll talk
about that next on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
Welcome back, Greg Best Shower, Christopher Kid, I'm live in Detroit,
flying back tonight. And then tomorrow. The Seahawks have a
regular Wednesday prep for the Sunday game against the Detroit Lions.
Short week, obviously after last night. They didn't get home
till four thirty this morning. Back to Seattle following the
lost forty two to twenty nine to the Detroit Lions
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last night, the Seahawks fall to three and one, denied
their third ever four and oh start to a season.
They were the defense that got ransacked most of the night,
finally got a stop when Ben Johnson, the Lions play caller,
who I thought was very good most of the game,
inexplicably on a third and one ran a pitch sweep
to the right after the lines are just killing the
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Seahawks between the tackles, but early in the fourth Courty
runs a pitch sweep to the right. The Seahawks speed
gets outside and stops it for a two yard loss.
So the Lions had the punt leading thirty five twenty seven,
and with nine minutes left in the game, the Seahawks
had a fourth and three at the Lions twenty eight
yard line, and that is when the game that was
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the last chance for Seattle fourth and three rollout pass
Jackson Smith and jiggit wide opening the right flat catches
the pass first down. Looks like the Seahawks have a
first intendant to thirty one, but the side official throws
a penalty flag on tyre Lord Lockett, the smallest guy
on the field, for offensive pass interference. He ran his
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route straight into the outside corner, the most outside defender
on Detroit on the Detroit left side the defense, and
then was turning as if to run an in route.
He made contact with the cornerback and as soon as
he made the contact, they threw the flag because Smith
and jigboit was so wide open. I talked to Tiler
Lockett at his locker. Michael John Duguard the athletic, and
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I both talked to him at his locker after the game,
and this is what Tyler Lockett had to say about it.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
They ended up dropping down the scoring and then goes
back to a chief position game.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Do you think then to say anything about.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Where he got a cook?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
I mean, I think I think it's a good game
for us to be a part of and be able
to have. You know, I think we played a great team.
They went out there and they played really good, and
you know, for us, we understand. We got three games
in ten days, so I mean you got just gotta
take what happened and get ready for the next game.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Sorry, I know they ask you, but have you ever
been called for anything like that your career?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Yeah, I mean they've called me from pass up here
since before or what I mean now, when I was
just trying to get into my route.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So that's what I mean, when you're running into your round.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Well, I mean sometimes they if they think it's some
type of pick or something like that, or if a
guy gets wide open like that, they automatically think it's
gonna be some.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Type of what said you pick?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh I didn't talk yet.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I want to go.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I just ran my route. Did you offense feel like
you're chasing the game all right? That you were?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I mean I think we did pretty good as a offense.
I mean it's easy to say that you're chasing if you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Know you're losing.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
But I mean I think we did a great job
moving the ball. You know, of course we could be
able to uh you know, we gotta work on being
able to finish in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But I think we did a great job just.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Being able to move the ball, keeping off their toes,
kind of getting into our little stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So definitely wants.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
School to go.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
If you are to say he just ran them round, right, yeah,
that's that's just one of those things. You know, after
watching the replay over and over again, it I would
love for Tyler to just run a route per se. Uh,
That's kind of how I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
There was contact there.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
This gets tricky, Greg because.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Because Gino Smithson there was no content.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, that's Gino's one hundred percent rides. I think Gino
was just in the in the moment upset. I get it, okay,
but I just wanted because Tyler's been he's done this before,
and he hasn't been called for flax and maybe he's
made so I think the difference was it really didn't
look like a the best route from Tyler Lockett is all.
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I would say. We've seen him do this so many
times they run they'd famous for pick plays on big
third conversion third down when they need a third down conversion,
And in this particular instance, I thought he could have
ran a better route and try to make it seem
as if he's not trying to run into him. Hell,
even in Week one against the Denver Broncos. When the
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Seahawks run that mess concept, DK does a really good
job of getting into defender's face, making Cooper, I forget
the corner's name, the white dB W, what's his name,
Riley Cooper. He has to obviously re route and try
to get under or over top of DKA, and he can't,
and that's all the separation you need. Obviously it's a
different scenario. But ty Lockett has been money before. He's
(21:43):
never really just run into someone and then like, hey,
I'm just running a route. I thought he could have
done it a little better. If I'm going to nitpick,
So I don't agree with Geno saying he didn't touch him,
because clearly.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
There is content. Yeah the quote Geno Smith and I
was reading a second there was no contact.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, that's right, that's not true. That's not true. I
know you're upset you lost. Tyler Lockett didn't do the
best job of trying to clear space. And as I said,
he's done it before and there's no flag thrown. So
this time he just did a little too much. I'm
sure they will run that similar play again, and I
promise you, Tyer Loca will not touch the guy because
(22:18):
I've seen it so many times.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But yeah, that's a tough one. Just to be straight,
Tyler Lockett played it. Has played in one hundred and
forty eight regular season games, seven more in the postseason,
and he's had now eight offensive pass interference penalty, so
it's not like he's never been called for it.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, what he did.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Last night is he went into the corner with both
of his hands up by his chest and it looked
like a pick. It looked like he was being a
fence instead of just running his route. He could have
influenced that outside corner, but just running at him without
contacting him and break off his route without even touching him,
and it's a first down. But the fact that he
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ran into him and that you heard Lockett's point there,
the fact that there was any contact at all, and
then whenever a receiver becomes that wide open in the
flat he at to Bockett's point, the official assumes there
must have been interference. That's why they threw the flag.
And if he doesn't initiate the contact by not even
going into the but turning and say turning a curl
(23:19):
out in front of the defender, no flag, But because
he carried his route into the defender, that's where the
penalty comes in. And Gino Smith, you're right, got up
in the moment, the fact he played his butt off
and still lost. He Smith, although he said it right.
(23:40):
This is what Smith's quote after the game. He said
it right about the officials, but not about to play it.
So Smith said, quote, they said he picked the guy,
and you probably could see. He pointed to us. We
all could see he made no contact with him. That's
not correct. Then then Smith just shrugged and he said,
I mean, in a situation like that, a critical drive
(24:02):
like that, that's kind of sometimes a difference in these games.
He's right about that. Unfortunately, the refs got that control,
got that power, And he's right. In a close game,
a pass interference penalty often is the difference between winning
and losing. But hey, let's be straight here, four nine
four five one on the telem we're due to text line.
If you agree with me on this, Even if Jaxon
(24:23):
Smith and Jigbabs catch stood, even if they get a
first down there with nine minutes left, down thirty five
twenty seven, even if they score the touchdown, we've got
now three. Ifs even if they get a two point
conversion to tie the game at thirty five, are they
going to stop the Lions? No game? No, no, no, no,
they're not.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Man, they would still have been chasing the game.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Jared Montana, that's his new name.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, eighteen eighteen, and the running game that they had,
the Lions would have scored again, no couch, and they
would still have been up forty two to thirty five,
and the Seahawks would still be chasing the game at
the end. So, having said all of this about the
past interference penalty, it didn't cost them the game. It
was a it was a reason why they didn't catch
(25:07):
the Lions at any point last night in the second half.
But let's be clear that they did not cost them
the game. And I thought it was interference. I thought
it was.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I did, I did it. It sucks that was in
that moment, but you have to run around or at
least make a better attempt. He ran right there into him,
created contact, And that's just an easy call, it really is,
especially when Jsen's butt naked in the flat.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, then that was Hawckett's point is when it guys
that wide open, all right, let's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Go to the other fan.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I want to talk to the text line four nine
four five one, the Telemorto text line, the two point
conversion play.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, soon, you're.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Chasing points when you do that, even I mean, yeah,
just an understand twenty twenty for what they go for two. Now,
let's not talk about the second one, because not to
get about the one yard line. Of course you can
go for two from there. But they go for two
originally before the pass interference on Metcalf in the end
zone and they overthrow I think it was Jake Bobo
(26:02):
in the left side one on one and they're down
twenty eight twenty. So now they're chasing points to the
rest of the game and they're going to have to
make that up somewhere. The analytics. Mike McDonald thirty seven
years old, youngest head coach in the league, loves analytics.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Big part of his program.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Brian Ayres, analyst for the Seahawks, is in his ear
during games about analytics, and they decided before that drive,
if we score a touchdown at this point in the game,
we're going for two. After the game, McDonald's explanation was
we wanted to win the game over in regulation. We
did not want to go to overtime to keep matching
sevens for sevens and create a tie game.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
He said.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
To the way the game was going, he wanted to
win it in regulation and that yes, they would have
to have scored it again anyway, which is all true,
but it still doesn't change the fact that you could
have chased those points when you're down one point, if
you could catch the Lions with a second touchdown without
allowing them to score going for two then cause them
(27:01):
to have to go for to the rest of the game.
If you want to win the game in regulation, I'd
say you do that. When it's thirty five thirty four,
you go for two and you win there on the road.
You don't want to go overtime.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But twenty eight twenty you see my point.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
If it's twenty eight twenty six there twenty to excuse me,
twenty eight twenty seven, then you go for two.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You're going for the win.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
But by going to herd there that's an all or
nothing scenario that if it's nothing and you miss, now
you got to go for to the rest of the
game and chase those points. Analytics, it's it's here to
stay and it's some bitch part of football, but I
thought it worked against Seattle at that point middle of
the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, just keep kicking field goals, man, get a stop.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Extra points and you're gonna see met them anyway. Yeah,
and you're gonna to stop them anyway. And then if
you want to win the game, do it when you
have scored what would otherwise be a tying touchdown down
one point with the pat then you go for two,
but doing it preemptively there a touchdown before and they'd
have to score again anyway. That's not gonna be the
last we see that, because they've decided this back in February.
(28:07):
They have their charts that they've made based on percentages
and probabilities, and when they're in that situation down two scores,
score a touchdown. You're going to probably see this again
during the Seahawks season, them going for two at that
stage the last quarter and a half of the game,
four nine, four to five one on the tell of them,
we'll do text line, is that a good use of analytics?
To you?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Is that a little?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Is that? Are you agreeing with me and saying that's
putting them behind Chris that you're putting your team in
chase mode, no matter what the outcome is. Right there,
four nine, four to five one, and tell them what
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Speaker 3 (29:23):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'm in still in the Motor City. It feels like
I've been here a week. Great Bella Newster Dune and
Christopher Kidd. The day after the Seahawks lose forty two
twenty nine to the Detroit Lions, both teams now three
and one. The talk here in Detroit this morning and
last night after the game was oh, we're going to
see the Seahawks again. This is a playoff preview matchup.
(29:45):
This is Mike McDonald and is postgame Prescott was asked
by I remember the Detroit media that whether he thinks
he'll see the Lions again. McDonald chuckled, and so we
got a long way to go before we start worrying
about playoffs, including the having to play the Giants on
a short week and then four days later played the
forty nine ers on a Thursday night game. That's the
(30:05):
next two games here in the next nine days for Seattle.
Last night, the right guard competition changed. Prior to last night,
the most Christian Haynes had played was one drive in
New England in the first half, one drive in the
second half against the Patriots in Week two. He didn't
play at all in Week three. Last night totally different.
(30:26):
He came in. Anthony Bradford started for the fourth consecutive game.
Christian Haynes entered in the second quarter and instead of
playing just one series, which they scored a touchdown on
and at that point the only two series Christian Haynes
had played in the first half of games, the Seahawks
had scored touchdowns on both of them, and at that
moment I put on ex Twitter at Gbell Seattle, why
(30:47):
are you going to take him out? At this point?
They scored touchdowns every time you put him in. Well
they did. They kept in Haynes for its second consecutive
drive in the first half. He finished the half with
two consecutive drives. But then Anthony Bradford started the third quarter.
Yet from the third quarter into the fourth, when the
Seahawks made their surge to get within eight and that
fourth down pass interference penalty we just talked about with
(31:08):
Tyler Lockett, it was Christian Haynes at right guard and
it ended up Chris. The snap splitz were sixty percent
for the starter Bradford, forty snaps for Christian Haynes, his
most extensive work he had a right guard. I talked
to Christian Haynes in the locker room at Ford Field
last night, back to back running a couple of series.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
On that year.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I feel great today, get an opportunity prime time Monday night.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Really feel good.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Pretty cool moment for you in your football life. Thing.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Consider the psanche of the team to battle like that
and keep chasing the game offensively and still putting up
the yard experiment. Since you did, how do you think
overall that decided not the team but league And we.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Just wanted to keep going, Hord and play, keep playing.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Otio football and try to get keep getting back in
that game.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
You know those keep fighting and fighting and find East series.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I take a Playboy playing and just kept kept going.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Would you learn to night? If anything, I'm playing as
long as you did.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Oh, you know, just keep communicating while I'm on the field,
you know, just you know, when once I'm in the field, key,
keep going hard.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Because when I got on that field, I gotta.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Keep the momentum up, just like just like if ab
was in there and he was team driving.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
So that's Christian Haynes, the rookie third round pick from
Connecticut who got his longest run yet last night at
right guard and played well I thought, and at times
they stuck with him and we're scoring on drives that
Christian Haynes was in the game.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
We'll say where it goes from here.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I've talked to Scott huff about this, the offensive line coach,
and he said, we're gonna do it like this until
we get it right, and they aren't right yet on
the offensive line, obviously. This is the Seahawks this morning
have agreed to sign Jason Peters, forty two years old,
to their practice squad. He's the oldest player in the NFL.
He was the oldest player in the NFL last year
at forty one for them, and last year he was
(32:58):
mostly a coach and an advisor in the locker room
and playing sparingly. He's been ten plus months now since
he's been on a field playing for anybody, so he's
not gonna be ready to play right away. He'll spend
a couple of weeks on the practice squad like he
did this time last year when he signed. He spent
about three weeks getting acclimated on the practice squad before
he was active for a game. So it'll still be
(33:19):
stone foresight for the time being at right tackle, and
he's our plan CEA. As we've mentioned a couple of times,
ab Lucas is eligible to come out to physically and
able to perform list, but no sign that he's going
to be doing that anytime soon.
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