October 2, 2024 • 35 mins
Hugh Millen joins the show to talk aout all things Seahawks after their tough loss to the Detroit Lions. Gregg and Christopher read a few messages from listeners, and then Gregg makes his pick in Fact or Fiction. We close the show w/ Ian Furness as he shares what he planned for his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back, but Greg bellt Show with Christopher Kidd begins
at the second hour here on ninety three point three
KJRFM from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, Seahawks headquarters, where
they're already preparing for Sunday they play the New York
Giants one and three Giants against three and one Seahawks
one twenty five kickoff Channel seven locally, and then four
days later Seahawks forty nine ers for first place in
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the NFC West, three games and ten days for Seattle.
Hugh Millin We'll join us next. We'll talk about Jared
Goss perfect night against the Seahawks, about Geno Smith leading
the league, and multiple categories in passing about Washington, Michigan
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The Seahawks signed Jason Peters to the practice squad about
twelve months after they did that the last time. If
it whin he gets elevated to the active roster, he
again becomes the NFL's oldest player at forty two. He's
known as an All Pro tackle, but he has played
guard as recently as twenty twenty two with the Cowboys.
Seahawks obviously have needs that both tackle and guard on
their offensive line. The big news this week in New
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York is the Elite Neighbors, the phenom rookie wide receiver.
Is he going to play? He's in the league's concussion protocol.
But there's hope in New York that because the Giants
played last Thursday, that Neighbors could, in the ten days
between games, play Sunday against the Seahawks. The Raiders say
they will entertain trade offers because wide receiver DeVante Adams
once won. A lot of folks are linking the Steelers
the winning trade for Adams. I see the Jets and
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Aaron Rodgers perhaps paired again with DeVante Adams. That's a possibility.
We'll see where DeVante Adams goes or doesn't go. Week
five of the NFL season begins tomorrow night, Buccaneers at
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Speaker 2 (03:00):
Joins us as he does every day at eleven o'clock
by a telephone to be come plumbing high on.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You how you been?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I'm doing great, guys. What's happening?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm well now that I got more than ninety minutes
of sleep for a night, am.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I get it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Jared Goff eighteen for eighteen, Yes, not only eighteen for eighteen,
but almost three hundred yards passing. What was it that
he and Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator did the Seattle
on Monday night?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Well, first of all, I would say if as a
quarterback you say, okay, you know, red light, green light,
yellow light, and you say a quarterback has to obviously
don't play, don't don't throw red light throws? Right, those
get intercepted and batted down. And Gino had seven passes
defense the other night, GoF had zero obviously because everything
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was completed. Okay, but then if you only live in
the green, then you're going to be a checkdown Charlie,
and you might have a high completion percentage no interceptions,
but you're gonna lose, you know, fourteen to ten. And
so I just kind of look here, okay, let's break
eighteen down. Two screens. Those are easy four checkdowns where
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he lived, you know, just he wasn't willing to go
down the field, and I think he made good decisions.
Four additional on all the boot four boot plays where
he threw to the shallow sky boot plays with a
quarterback on the move out on the edge. You got deep, intermediate,
and shallow. He threw the shallow every time they call
the boot, all right. Two other categories here, they got
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into empty and they tried to get I'm on Ross
Saint Brown on what's called a jerk route against the
rookie Tyrese Knight. By getting into empty, you get that
matchup with the wide receiver in the slot against the
weak side linebacker. Well, you come up a jerk route
you come up, you do a hitch shake to the
outside and then back to the inside, and you pulled
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the middle linebacker over to the strength of the formation.
There's a little I've seen a lot of will linebackers
get beat there. I thought Knight did a good job there.
But it's still a four yard completion. But you can
live with that if you're Mike McDonald and you tell
your young player that there's a blown coverage there, man
and man. Seattle only played three four rather because one
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was a sack. Three plays of cover one man and man,
and one of them was a time where they had
fifty six helping me. Yeah, so he's on, Yeah, he's
on a shallow cross. Seattle's playing a man to man.
You can play man a man in rush five, but
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they if you play man and man in rush four,
that gives you an extra what's called the whole defender.
People call it a rat, a lerk robber, if you
know foot, you know, get a shelf. Essentially a sallow player,
like a free safety, well bowser. He's pointing to to
to the middle linebacker Dodson, saying, hey, you take him
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in all replace you and be the whole player. Well,
they didn't get the communication. Bowser and Dodson end up
stacked on the hash and the tight ends wide open
as if it's zone. He just hooks up doing his
own responsibilities. I was down by the seatt goal line
and on a second and nine they give up a
ten yard completion because they blow the coverage. A couple
of plays where they he played in the yellow. I'm
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talking about golf. He had I think his second completion
he spun out of trouble and then hit Jamison Williams
on a hook route against against Tariq Woollan, and Wollan
was mere inches away. But good throw, perfect throw, and
they get a tightly covered cook or a where clear out.
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Nice scheming. You reduce the split by Iman Rustin Brown.
That means that Devin Weatherspoon is going to be he
has divider rules. He said, wait, you're too close to
the ball on this stay outside of you. Well, now
you've got outside leverage. You're gonna do an inbreaking route.
That means that you have to have help for Witherspoon
on that deep in breaking route. Well, the guy who
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would give the help is Drake Thomas, number forty two.
The third string week side linebacker. So so they're attacking personnel.
There two final ones. I'm gonna throw because either these
were the big time throws, like big time throws. And
I'm gonna I'm gonna pause right here. I'm gonna say,
you guys know Mark Schlerett, the ESPN and analysts. Yeah,
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so he and I were teammates, and he said, he
has said kind of famously, I don't know why they
call him skill positions. You try and block Aaron Donald
and then tell me that you don't need skill to
block him, right, like, because linemen are never considered skill positions. Right,
I'm gonna take that philosophy, and I'm gonna kind of
say this. We understand this is the day and age
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of the dual threat quarterback. And we further understand that
Jared Goff is not a dual threat quarterback. He's a
throwback guy. And and yet he goes under center more
than any other quarterback in football last year. In fact,
he not only was he first, the gap between first
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and second was the equal to the gap between second
and twenty six. Let me repeat again, under center play action.
What's the significance of that? Well, first of all, you
can get some downhill running game. The Lions put their
their running backs of the yard deeper and they come
downhill and they can replay, so so it affects the
running game. You're turning back, you're holding the ball. There's
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more deception that's allowed in that. But it's very hard
on the quarterback to turn around and then throw in
the middle. And there's all kinds of stats where he's
number one thrown in between the numbers. So he goes
on the seventy yarder to Jamis Williamson. This is a
six man blitz. There's guys in his face when he
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released the ball. GoF Williams was he had not got
to the left hash even though the ball is going
to be completed the right hash. There's this whole messa.
This is a deep mess concept where deep crossing. He
hadn't even Jamison Williams hadn't even got to the point
where he's going to cross with the tight end. There's
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a linebacker in the picture. This is a murky picture.
But he just sees it and anticipation he throws it
out there and gets a seventy yonder. That is a
big time difficult deal. And then on that same note
that was again under center, play action, which other quarterbacks
don't do anymore. And then eight fifty seven to go
in the game, thirty five to twenty seven, Seattle comes back.
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It's a one score game. Think of how aggressive this is.
Detroit on first and ten from deep in their own end,
so they go play action under center. Goff, turn your
back on the defense and then turn around and hit
a dagger concept with a clear out. And who's number
seventeen for the Lions, their third receiver. Maybe while I'm talking,
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you can look that up. But when Goff then turns
his back back to the defense, and then and then
he and then he comes back to final he's he's
got to fit the ball on a deep in route
into a box literally a box. It's like a square.
And on the inside intermediate of that, he's got Terrell Dotson.
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On the other side of that, he's got Kobe Bryant
deep to the outside, Troy Brown is a corner, and
then Jenkins the safety. That that little box of four players,
any four of those guys could in theory make a
play on the ball if you if you sit there
for a half a second and go, do I have that?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I think I do, and then throw it. That's too late.
You've got to turn your back, come back, and and
then just instantly process. Yeah, if I if I throw
it now and throw it into that little box, four
guys could get it, but my guy will come right
in the dead middle of that box and he smokes
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that ball in there. What was the game patrol? Yeah,
Saint Patrick and yeah yeah, And so that completion, you know,
and that's where Troy Aikman was going, Wow, that's his
best throw at the night. That was thirty yards in
the most pressure situation when Seattle's come back. And so look,
can Jared Goff make guys miss like all the modern quarterbacks. No,
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but you show me a guy that consistently gets under center,
turns his back to the defense and makes these plays.
I mean, Jared, Look, the Lions have now are in
the top inauguably three four five teams in this league agreed,
And the job they've done turning around who they were
they were the Lions, the bag over your head Lions.
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And this is a franchise that has made a ton
of great decisions. Well, they've got their quarterback in Jared Goff.
They just signed to a four year, two hundred and
twelve million dollar one hundred and seventy million guaranteed. They
know what he does, even though he's old school, and
you know, old school went eighteen for eighteen. And there's
things that Goff does that nobody else. So if you
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want to say there's things that that Lamar Jackson does
that nobody else says, fine, And you want to say
Jared Goff can't do that, fine, But I'm gonna turn
around and say there's a lot of guys that virtually
everybody else cannot do on a regular basis what he
does and how it fits with their running game. They
get Jamary Gibbs, the twelfth older all pick. You know,
they've got a vision of their offense and there's very
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few people on planet Earth that can be the trigger man,
and GoF is one of them.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Back to that Jamison Williams seventy yard touchdown. It was
right after the Seahawks had gotten within twenty eight twenty
and the failed miss two pointer that maybe should have
been in completion and Metcalf, no challenge, whatever, Yeah, change
the game. Who did you say we all saw Witherspoon
standing in the middlefield after the catch and Williams is
blowing his doors off and running by him. But as
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you saw, where was the bust or where could have
Seattle defended?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Here's the problem with that in trying to assess that
if you technically say what was Seattle doing? They're playing
a two deep three under. Like the standard zone is
seven guys, three deep, four under, four deep, three under,
two deep, five hundred. There's all kinds of and then
if you can drop eight and get eight man zones.
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When you go a fire zone and you bring five,
obviously there's a simple math. There's six guys to play
the zone. Six guys leaves a lot of holes. From
an offensive perspective, you're either going to be in a
three deep or three under and uh and uh three
deep three under, or you're gonna be a two deep
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four under. That's what we see. And then and then
there's nuances to that that the uh what what what's
called a catch coverage?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Palms coverage? The two deep four under can be four
deep two under. But but if I lost you, just
the numbers I'm saying are six guys, which is again
one fewer guy than average. If you technically look at
three guys playing zone underneath and two in the back end.
Is that really a scheme that Mike McDonald wants to have.
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I doubt it. If I you know, I've studied Raven tape.
I've I just don't see that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That of his personnel restrictions he had and missing five
of well, I.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Know, I think that they had a communication problem. I
just don't think that that they just are drawing up
two deep three under look. I mean it's possible you
I mean I consider on a whiteboard and say, okay,
this is how you'd cover these concepts. And and there's
things like peel blitzing where you say, well if he
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if if the run running back blocks, then you fire.
And so maybe you're you know, maybe that's called the
half a blitzer because if the running back releases, you've
got him in coverage. I mean, they're they're saying, I
will just say this, if you look and you just say,
what is that that's a six man rush two deep
three under their playing zone principles and that those are
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way too many holes to h to have so at
any rate. As for the coverage, as Y ask, what
are they doing? I mentioned they went man and man
on four plays they got a sack and then but
they gave it completions of ten, thirteen and seven. They
mostly went Cover three that's a three deep four under
zone or sometimes three deep three under twelve completions two
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hundred and fifty one yards a twenty one yard average,
and then the quarters that the two deep structure that
that that McDonald had done so much of Baltimore, at
least sowing a too high and then coming down. They
only had one play of Cover four and two plays
of Cover six. Is is is a two deep structure
where you're playing cover two, roll to one side and
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then and you're playing off on the other with a
two high safety safety structure. Okay, that's probably a lot
of details. Sorry, There just three plays of a too
high and everything else was single high, which the Cover
three is or the cover one is also a singley.
So you text me, hey, what what coverages were they doing?
That's what they were doing. But you know, I think
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the the you know, the breaking down of golf's day,
at least in my mind, you know, kind of went
with what we discussed earlier, and and you know, two
awesome throws, probably three or four other really good throws
and then ten just you know, any quarterback could have
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made ten of them.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Hugh.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You talked a lot about what you saw from Jared Goff,
but in about two minutes, Yeah, can you talk about
Gino because there was one play where I'm in you
were talking about Jared and the Seahawks are on trip
to the right and Jake Bobo does a deep in
about seventeen yards and Gino is getting pressure from the
pocket and he delivers a dot hits him right in
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the chest, and I was just thinking, Wow, I know
Gino had a couple of those throws in that game
when he was under pressure.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
So what was your thoughts on Gino's game against it
a lot that was.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, that was a double in concept. That was That
was one on my list of really good plays. And
and and Seattle is is doing. The league is has
come into this new concept where for for years and decades,
it's common to have a swing route. The running back
put Canine or whomever Sharbonne on a swing route right
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and you say, okay, you're gonna get a stretch. What's
kind of in vogue now is you get you have
a swing route, but it's like a one man screen
and you get a tight end out there and they're
kind of stabbed on one another. So for the quarterback,
you're looking downfield, looking downfield, and you say, Okay, I
don't like what I see. I'm gonna throw over to
the swing path swing route. Well, i've got an extra
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lead blocker. Well, and that's cool and it's created some
good stuff. It does detract from your ability to influence
other zone defenders. And on that play you're describing with Bobo,
that was one where they had this one man screens
as a checkdown. So so those hooked on hooks own
defenders that you're trying to beat hooks own defenders are shallow,
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meaning closer to the line scrimmage as opposed deep and
to the inside, right around the hashmarks, and he anticipates
throwing right in. They were relatively tight because of the
concept that I described, But he was knifing that in.
He had one defant that had some similarity where fant
was over the middle. He knifed it into the hooks
own defender. He had a play where he's climbing the pocket.
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Do you guys remember the one where he hits Tyler
Lockett About fifteen yards down the field. But then Tyler,
Tyler goes for it ends up being a twenty nine
yarder over the middle. He's climbing for it, he's pumping, pumping,
he has no body behind it. His right foot's forward.
It looked like his shoulders he was going to throw it,
so at least he had his shoulders behind it, even
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though he's climbing. But then he has to pull it down. Well,
now when he reloads, he can't reload his entire shoulders.
He's just got to flip it with his arm. Because
of all this, there's literally nothing in his body to
add power to that throat, and yet he's still knife
it in. That's what I would call arm talent and
getting a twenty nine yard I mean just but but
but if we're gonna talk to Geno and we're probably
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up up against it, I would say the thing that
is most impressing me if I if I take the
the four game Seattle's played and say, who's the best
football player that I see of the opponents, Meaning if
I could I could have one wish, just pluck that
guy off of their team and now he's a Seahawk.
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My answer would be Aiden Hutchinson. Now Patrick Sartan's great,
Penny Sewell, there's some other guys that give me some pause.
But Aiden Hutchinson, I know, Greg, you know you're talking about, Hey,
he didn't get the sack. He is his presence. Oh
my god, he was just destroying the pocket over and oh,
it doesn't matter left side, right side. Uh and and
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I mean he was just you know, Forsyth or whether
it was career, I mean he made each of them
look like J V High school.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
He didn't get sacked because you know, Smith was brilliant
and getting.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, but Gino's if you're grading a guy, it's so hard.
I mean, I played with three Hall of Fame quarterbacks.
It's really hard. When you walk come back and watch
the tape and you watch you know, we're watching the
end zone copy, we're watching the All twenty two. If
you've getting constant pressure, there's a lot of times where
you say, you know, like Elway, for example, beautiful athlete.
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He'd say, oh, shoot, I got a little skittish on
that one. I got out of the pocket when I
didn't need to. And then you go, yeah, but Woody,
we didn't call him John. It was his nickname was
Woody because like Elwood and the Bruce brothers, so woody.
But you just you just had like the last ten
times you were in the pocket, you know, you had
dragons breathing on you. Of course you bailed unnecessarily, Like
this happens to the best of guys. Gino his decisions
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to either stay in the pocket or when to get
out of the pocket. I mean, he's damn near perfect
when he's getting out of the pocket. It's because he
must get out of the pocket. And if he has
any chance to stay in there and be a man
and hang in there and take the hit. Now, you
don't hits like Lwa did, right, because they protect guys.
But but there's still a lot of courage that you
have to have, and that that pocket is constricting. So
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is we can talk about all the good passing plays.
I'm most impressed with Gino's pot the just grading him
in the pocket. We just watched the game through a
toilet paper tube, so you don't know what happens when
when Gino lets the ball go. You're just watching Gino
in the pocket through a toilet paper tube. Uh uh uh.
And and if you're just grading him on that aspect.
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I mean he's an A plus.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
He stood in there once when Hutchinson was coming right
down on him and he threw for first down on
third and eighth to Jackson Smith and Jigba across the middle.
He pulled up on his pull on his scramble into
Hutchinson's face to complete the pass. Yeah, that was his
most impressive play of the night. Indeed, Hugh, I appreciate it.
It's tough what we could talk about, but it's good
to talk to you. I'll be on the Seahawks round
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table with Chuck and Bucking you tomorrow morning a day
a clock.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You've it's always good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Thank you as well.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You thanks Hugh Mellon as always as only he can,
going on about how great Jared Goff was, and he
was perfect, literally perfect. But he says, Gino his decisions
when to stay in the pocket or when to get
out of pocket, damn Neil perfect through four games for
Gino Smith.
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Speaker 5 (22:42):
From the two five to three.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
You give Hugh a baby Aspen. I think he's having
a stroke. Does he know who he's talking to?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
When Hugh gets fired up, man, he can go. We
appreciate all of his insight. It's great information. So thank
you Hugh again for taking some time to join us
talking all things Seahawks and NAT.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And if Hugh hasn't to a point I got on Twitter,
Hugh hasn't always been on the Gino Smith train. No,
he hasn't. No, And so for him to say he's
been damn near perfect in his pocket presence and decision
making tells you how good he thinks he's been.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
He watches tape, he see it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Like you said, if you watched Geno through a paper tube,
that toilet paper tube.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, the pocket presence is there.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Let's see from the two l six regarding high school
n I L I wonder how child labor laws will
fit into this. I didn't even think of that parental consent.
That's where it starts. Do the parents allow that? Which
I think a lot of parents might, but we'll see there.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Unfortunately I haven't got a lot of parents for it.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Let's see from the four to two to five regarding
high school sports, getting getting paid for your name and
likeness of the American Waight education that's taken a back
seat several years ago. Companies don't care about your education,
solder shrug.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What companies don't care about your education? Try getting hired
at twenty twenty two years old with no education. That's
a what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I think they are looking at it from the standpoint
if I know shoupe an Il. I think from this standpoint,
if I know Greg Bell and he works at you
dub and Greg can give me a great recommendation. And
I have a high school diploma, but I have worked
at several other jobs, I might have a better opportunity
at Land said job because I know Greg Bell, and
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he knows plenty of professors there can speak highly of me,
and now I get in the door just based off
of who you know.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Not so out a college degree. Possibly, yes, No, without
a college degree. You look at the studies of income
and income earning potential between college graduates and non college graduates,
it's not even close. It's a difference between upper and
middle and lower middle class and low class. Yeah, so
I'm talking socioeconomics. If you don't have a college degree,
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the difference in your income earning potential is a mess.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And he's thinking about that when he's transferring to seven
schools and chasing NIL deals, I think a lot of
Christian he's telling me. No, Mike Girell telling me during
training camp. I asked him about nil and why he
didn't leave Division two Finley, and he said, I'm not
chasing that short term money. Those guys that were going
to all these different schools chasing short term money and
then having problems graduate. I'm chasing long term wealth for
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my rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Anyway, there's tons more to talk about NIO in high
school sports, and we are going to do that. We're
going to try to get somebody from the WIA, maybe
even the director of to talk more intelligently about weldy.
WIA sees thiscring in Washington among high school students. But
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Last week whereund one of our breaks in the show
in the studio and Richmore pulled me aside and say, Greg,
you think you should we should broadcast.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
The Navy Air Force game. And I said sure.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's on a Saturday and it's going to be a
nine am kickoff, and it's kind of there's a lot
of people here in Pacific Northwest who are both Navy.
Bramerton Kitsapp and the Air Force, George based Lewis McCord.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, absolutely, Navy.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He's undefeated leading an American Athletic Association.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Co leading it with Army. I think there'd be some
interest in that, so he I believe he is. I
haven't seen the schedule for Saturday, but I'm pretty sure
he's there broadcasting at nine am before our Husky Heart's
pregame show for Husky in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, Navy's still undefeated, Nyvy. I hate to say this,
They're still.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Undefeated in the first place in the American Athletic Conference
with Army. It's the first time Army and Navy have
been four and oh at the same time to beginn
of season since.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Nineteen forty five. The fall of forty five was the
end of World War Two. That's how long it's been.
Navy's a huge favorite because Air Force stinks.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That makes me feel good to say Army's four and oh,
Navy's four and oh. Navy is a huge favorite in
Colorado Springs. But get this, let's talk about what Navy's
done up to this point. What's Air Force has done
up to this point. Commander Chiefs Trophy Game, Air Force
has scored seven points against the same San Jose State
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team that Wazoo toured for fifty four. Air Force scored
just three points at Baylor nineteen against Wyoming last week.
Navy's scoring in bushels forty one last week at UAB
fifty six on Memphis, which was a favorite to win.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
The American Conference at Army and Navy are now leading, and.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Navy scored thirty eight at Temple forty nine on Bookno
the overender for this game. Navy Air Force is thirty
five and half in college football in twenty twenty. I
know his service.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Academies, but still the way Navy.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Is scoring points right now, give me Navy Air Force
over thirty five and a half and a Commander in
Chiefs Trophy game.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They won't win. Neither team will win the Commander in Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Trophy because Army is gonna do that when they beat
Air Force and Navy here coming away in the season.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But gimme Navy Air Force over thirty five and a half.
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Interesting pick.
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At least I'm consistent. I hate I was gonna pick
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Speaker 2 (30:05):
Seahawks Headquarters in Renton. Welcome back the Greg Best.
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Show with Christopher Kidd here from Seahawks head Quarters at
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Speaker 2 (30:45):
Hello sir, Hello l you. I'm very well. Thanks now
that I've slept for more than an hour and a half,
the final preseason game for the Kraken tonight against Edmondson
a climate Pledgerina, and then six days the opener against
the Saint Louis Blues. What are they still have left
to do in the preseason? What have they still yet
to settle either?
Speaker 7 (31:06):
I just got back and Dan Bilesman talked about this
will be the closest, you know, to a regular season
lineup that we'll see.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I like it.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Now Edmonton's been dropping in the same kind of lineup tonight,
so the goaltending's got to get better. For sure, it
has not been good in the preseason. But both those guys,
we kind of know what they can do. Roster spots
are interesting. They only have I believe it's twenty four
twenty five guys left, so they'd start a season with
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twenty three twenty four in there. Ty car Chase Hurt,
We're not sure how he had a quote maintenance state today.
Dan Biles'm a very KOI with that. So I think
Cale Fleury's gonna get sent back down to Coachella. He's
still here, so I think, really they've got a week
and a half. I know, what do they have. They've
got until Tuesday to figure out the roster. This salary
(32:04):
cap is an interesting thing in the NHL. You've got
you've got to be cap compliant. Right now, they're kind
of barely cap compliant maybe, so you know, we'll kind
of see what they do over the next few days. Tonight,
it's gonna be interesting one and be a good game.
Like I said, both teams kind of you know, they
find out who your power play unit units are, who
can play with who, So they're still trying to find
(32:26):
some combinations. But I think the defensive core we're going
to see tonight one through six is probably what we'll
see in the regular season. Larsen and Dunn are still
together mon tours with Alexiak and Organs with Ryker Evans,
so I think that's intact. I think the lines maybe
there could be some shuffling, but yeah, they're just kind
of tweaking things right now.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
A long answer, the goaltending situation is still going to
look almost like a fifty to fifty split between Grubauer
and Or.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Is there still.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
I I I think so.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I think I think yes.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Neither.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Like I said, neither guys look great in the preseason.
I think so. I don't even know. I would maybe
if Grubauer is really good tonight, then he probably or
at least, you know, good, he probably gets the net
the first game on Tuesday. If not, then maybe that's
a question and maybe maybe they do go to Decord,
but I think they'll defer it to Grubauer. I think
in the end, though ideal world, you probably have a
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one in a one A and how that split works,
maybe it's fifty five, forty five, fifty two, forty eight,
somewhere in there. Whatever it ends up being, I think
you'll be they'll be split them depending if unless someone
gets really hot. I don't think they're married to like
the Bruins last year with Swamon and Olmark went split split,
But I don't know if they're married to that or not.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
The Cord up and some eyes for them last year today.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Yeah, like he gave them a lot of hope and
just in the sense that he can he he they
didn't know if you could be like in every like
you know, a number one netminder in the league. I
talked to a scout last into last year and for
another NHL team of pro scout that was here, and
he thought Decord was was not just shouldn't just be
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the number one. He thought it was no question that
he should be the number one, which I thought was interesting.
You know, Grubauer has just been kind of banged up,
but we saw what gruberki doing the playoffs two years ago.
He's pretty good. So yeah, good problem to have. Hopefully
they're both playing well. Like I said, neither one of
us had a really good preseason. In fact, they've both
been really bad in the preseason, so hopefully.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
They're not betterber the whole game to night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
That's Edmonton final preseason game for the Crack at seven o'clock.
Here Mike Pittan with the pregame show. It's six thirty
on ninety three foot three K.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, I think it's Mikey.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
I think is Mikey's first full pregame too, So whole
meal deal tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah. It is an audition for the regular seay,
it is, it is. What do you have today?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
We're gonna check in.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Gary Parrish is going to join us our college basketball insider.
He'll join us coming up at twelve twenty, and we're
going to discuss with him Gonzaga to the PAC twelve
and Memphis is still maybe in play for the PAC twelve.
Why or how does that make sense? But what is
Gonzag due for the profile of the conference. We'll talk
to Gary about that coming up at twelve twenty. Sea
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Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's and Forness in Your ears for the next three hours.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Is every weekday twelve to three. I miss you out
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Speaker 7 (35:20):
And yeah, well that's okay. We'll be out there soon enough,
probably next week.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You're busy enough, you get plenty to do.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And forness is up next, Greg Beba the News you
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Speaker 2 (03:00):
Joins us as he does every day at eleven o'clock
by a telephone to be come plumbing high on.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You how you been?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I'm doing great, guys. What's happening?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm well now that I got more than ninety minutes
of sleep for a night, am.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I get it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Jared Goff eighteen for eighteen, Yes, not only eighteen for eighteen,
but almost three hundred yards passing. What was it that
he and Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator did the Seattle
on Monday night?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Well, first of all, I would say if as a
quarterback you say, okay, you know, red light, green light,
yellow light, and you say a quarterback has to obviously
don't play, don't don't throw red light throws? Right, those
get intercepted and batted down. And Gino had seven passes
defense the other night, GoF had zero obviously because everything
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was completed. Okay, but then if you only live in
the green, then you're going to be a checkdown Charlie,
and you might have a high completion percentage no interceptions,
but you're gonna lose, you know, fourteen to ten. And
so I just kind of look here, okay, let's break
eighteen down. Two screens. Those are easy four checkdowns where
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he lived, you know, just he wasn't willing to go
down the field, and I think he made good decisions.
Four additional on all the boot four boot plays where
he threw to the shallow sky boot plays with a
quarterback on the move out on the edge. You got deep, intermediate,
and shallow. He threw the shallow every time they call
the boot, all right. Two other categories here, they got
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into empty and they tried to get I'm on Ross
Saint Brown on what's called a jerk route against the
rookie Tyrese Knight. By getting into empty, you get that
matchup with the wide receiver in the slot against the
weak side linebacker. Well, you come up a jerk route
you come up, you do a hitch shake to the
outside and then back to the inside, and you pulled
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the middle linebacker over to the strength of the formation.
There's a little I've seen a lot of will linebackers
get beat there. I thought Knight did a good job there.
But it's still a four yard completion. But you can
live with that if you're Mike McDonald and you tell
your young player that there's a blown coverage there, man
and man. Seattle only played three four rather because one
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was a sack. Three plays of cover one man and man,
and one of them was a time where they had
fifty six helping me. Yeah, so he's on, Yeah, he's
on a shallow cross. Seattle's playing a man to man.
You can play man a man in rush five, but
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they if you play man and man in rush four,
that gives you an extra what's called the whole defender.
People call it a rat, a lerk robber, if you
know foot, you know, get a shelf. Essentially a sallow player,
like a free safety, well bowser. He's pointing to to
to the middle linebacker Dodson, saying, hey, you take him
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in all replace you and be the whole player. Well,
they didn't get the communication. Bowser and Dodson end up
stacked on the hash and the tight ends wide open
as if it's zone. He just hooks up doing his
own responsibilities. I was down by the seatt goal line
and on a second and nine they give up a
ten yard completion because they blow the coverage. A couple
of plays where they he played in the yellow. I'm
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talking about golf. He had I think his second completion
he spun out of trouble and then hit Jamison Williams
on a hook route against against Tariq Woollan, and Wollan
was mere inches away. But good throw, perfect throw, and
they get a tightly covered cook or a where clear out.
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Nice scheming. You reduce the split by Iman Rustin Brown.
That means that Devin Weatherspoon is going to be he
has divider rules. He said, wait, you're too close to
the ball on this stay outside of you. Well, now
you've got outside leverage. You're gonna do an inbreaking route.
That means that you have to have help for Witherspoon
on that deep in breaking route. Well, the guy who
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would give the help is Drake Thomas, number forty two.
The third string week side linebacker. So so they're attacking personnel.
There two final ones. I'm gonna throw because either these
were the big time throws, like big time throws. And
I'm gonna I'm gonna pause right here. I'm gonna say,
you guys know Mark Schlerett, the ESPN and analysts. Yeah,
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so he and I were teammates, and he said, he
has said kind of famously, I don't know why they
call him skill positions. You try and block Aaron Donald
and then tell me that you don't need skill to
block him, right, like, because linemen are never considered skill positions. Right,
I'm gonna take that philosophy, and I'm gonna kind of
say this. We understand this is the day and age
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of the dual threat quarterback. And we further understand that
Jared Goff is not a dual threat quarterback. He's a
throwback guy. And and yet he goes under center more
than any other quarterback in football last year. In fact,
he not only was he first, the gap between first
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and second was the equal to the gap between second
and twenty six. Let me repeat again, under center play action.
What's the significance of that? Well, first of all, you
can get some downhill running game. The Lions put their
their running backs of the yard deeper and they come
downhill and they can replay, so so it affects the
running game. You're turning back, you're holding the ball. There's
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more deception that's allowed in that. But it's very hard
on the quarterback to turn around and then throw in
the middle. And there's all kinds of stats where he's
number one thrown in between the numbers. So he goes
on the seventy yarder to Jamis Williamson. This is a
six man blitz. There's guys in his face when he
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released the ball. GoF Williams was he had not got
to the left hash even though the ball is going
to be completed the right hash. There's this whole messa.
This is a deep mess concept where deep crossing. He
hadn't even Jamison Williams hadn't even got to the point
where he's going to cross with the tight end. There's
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a linebacker in the picture. This is a murky picture.
But he just sees it and anticipation he throws it
out there and gets a seventy yonder. That is a
big time difficult deal. And then on that same note
that was again under center, play action, which other quarterbacks
don't do anymore. And then eight fifty seven to go
in the game, thirty five to twenty seven, Seattle comes back.
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It's a one score game. Think of how aggressive this is.
Detroit on first and ten from deep in their own end,
so they go play action under center. Goff, turn your
back on the defense and then turn around and hit
a dagger concept with a clear out. And who's number
seventeen for the Lions, their third receiver. Maybe while I'm talking,
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you can look that up. But when Goff then turns
his back back to the defense, and then and then
he and then he comes back to final he's he's
got to fit the ball on a deep in route
into a box literally a box. It's like a square.
And on the inside intermediate of that, he's got Terrell Dotson.
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On the other side of that, he's got Kobe Bryant
deep to the outside, Troy Brown is a corner, and
then Jenkins the safety. That that little box of four players,
any four of those guys could in theory make a
play on the ball if you if you sit there
for a half a second and go, do I have that?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I think I do, and then throw it. That's too late.
You've got to turn your back, come back, and and
then just instantly process. Yeah, if I if I throw
it now and throw it into that little box, four
guys could get it, but my guy will come right
in the dead middle of that box and he smokes
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that ball in there. What was the game patrol? Yeah,
Saint Patrick and yeah yeah, And so that completion, you know,
and that's where Troy Aikman was going, Wow, that's his
best throw at the night. That was thirty yards in
the most pressure situation when Seattle's come back. And so look,
can Jared Goff make guys miss like all the modern quarterbacks. No,
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but you show me a guy that consistently gets under center,
turns his back to the defense and makes these plays.
I mean, Jared, Look, the Lions have now are in
the top inauguably three four five teams in this league agreed,
And the job they've done turning around who they were
they were the Lions, the bag over your head Lions.
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And this is a franchise that has made a ton
of great decisions. Well, they've got their quarterback in Jared Goff.
They just signed to a four year, two hundred and
twelve million dollar one hundred and seventy million guaranteed. They
know what he does, even though he's old school, and
you know, old school went eighteen for eighteen. And there's
things that Goff does that nobody else. So if you
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want to say there's things that that Lamar Jackson does
that nobody else says, fine, And you want to say
Jared Goff can't do that, fine, But I'm gonna turn
around and say there's a lot of guys that virtually
everybody else cannot do on a regular basis what he
does and how it fits with their running game. They
get Jamary Gibbs, the twelfth older all pick. You know,
they've got a vision of their offense and there's very
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few people on planet Earth that can be the trigger man,
and GoF is one of them.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Back to that Jamison Williams seventy yard touchdown. It was
right after the Seahawks had gotten within twenty eight twenty
and the failed miss two pointer that maybe should have
been in completion and Metcalf, no challenge, whatever, Yeah, change
the game. Who did you say we all saw Witherspoon
standing in the middlefield after the catch and Williams is
blowing his doors off and running by him. But as
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you saw, where was the bust or where could have
Seattle defended?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Here's the problem with that in trying to assess that
if you technically say what was Seattle doing? They're playing
a two deep three under. Like the standard zone is
seven guys, three deep, four under, four deep, three under,
two deep, five hundred. There's all kinds of and then
if you can drop eight and get eight man zones.
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When you go a fire zone and you bring five,
obviously there's a simple math. There's six guys to play
the zone. Six guys leaves a lot of holes. From
an offensive perspective, you're either going to be in a
three deep or three under and uh and uh three
deep three under, or you're gonna be a two deep
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four under. That's what we see. And then and then
there's nuances to that that the uh what what what's
called a catch coverage?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Palms coverage? The two deep four under can be four
deep two under. But but if I lost you, just
the numbers I'm saying are six guys, which is again
one fewer guy than average. If you technically look at
three guys playing zone underneath and two in the back end.
Is that really a scheme that Mike McDonald wants to have.
(14:05):
I doubt it. If I you know, I've studied Raven tape.
I've I just don't see that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That of his personnel restrictions he had and missing five
of well, I.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Know, I think that they had a communication problem. I
just don't think that that they just are drawing up
two deep three under look. I mean it's possible you
I mean I consider on a whiteboard and say, okay,
this is how you'd cover these concepts. And and there's
things like peel blitzing where you say, well if he
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if if the run running back blocks, then you fire.
And so maybe you're you know, maybe that's called the
half a blitzer because if the running back releases, you've
got him in coverage. I mean, they're they're saying, I
will just say this, if you look and you just say,
what is that that's a six man rush two deep
three under their playing zone principles and that those are
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way too many holes to h to have so at
any rate. As for the coverage, as Y ask, what
are they doing? I mentioned they went man and man
on four plays they got a sack and then but
they gave it completions of ten, thirteen and seven. They
mostly went Cover three that's a three deep four under
zone or sometimes three deep three under twelve completions two
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hundred and fifty one yards a twenty one yard average,
and then the quarters that the two deep structure that
that that McDonald had done so much of Baltimore, at
least sowing a too high and then coming down. They
only had one play of Cover four and two plays
of Cover six. Is is is a two deep structure
where you're playing cover two, roll to one side and
(15:43):
then and you're playing off on the other with a
two high safety safety structure. Okay, that's probably a lot
of details. Sorry, There just three plays of a too
high and everything else was single high, which the Cover
three is or the cover one is also a singley.
So you text me, hey, what what coverages were they doing?
That's what they were doing. But you know, I think
(16:04):
the the you know, the breaking down of golf's day,
at least in my mind, you know, kind of went
with what we discussed earlier, and and you know, two
awesome throws, probably three or four other really good throws
and then ten just you know, any quarterback could have
(16:26):
made ten of them.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Hugh.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You talked a lot about what you saw from Jared Goff,
but in about two minutes, Yeah, can you talk about
Gino because there was one play where I'm in you
were talking about Jared and the Seahawks are on trip
to the right and Jake Bobo does a deep in
about seventeen yards and Gino is getting pressure from the
pocket and he delivers a dot hits him right in
(16:49):
the chest, and I was just thinking, Wow, I know
Gino had a couple of those throws in that game
when he was under pressure.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
So what was your thoughts on Gino's game against it
a lot that was.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, that was a double in concept. That was That
was one on my list of really good plays. And
and and Seattle is is doing. The league is has
come into this new concept where for for years and decades,
it's common to have a swing route. The running back
put Canine or whomever Sharbonne on a swing route right
(17:19):
and you say, okay, you're gonna get a stretch. What's
kind of in vogue now is you get you have
a swing route, but it's like a one man screen
and you get a tight end out there and they're
kind of stabbed on one another. So for the quarterback,
you're looking downfield, looking downfield, and you say, Okay, I
don't like what I see. I'm gonna throw over to
the swing path swing route. Well, i've got an extra
(17:42):
lead blocker. Well, and that's cool and it's created some
good stuff. It does detract from your ability to influence
other zone defenders. And on that play you're describing with Bobo,
that was one where they had this one man screens
as a checkdown. So so those hooked on hooks own
defenders that you're trying to beat hooks own defenders are shallow,
(18:03):
meaning closer to the line scrimmage as opposed deep and
to the inside, right around the hashmarks, and he anticipates
throwing right in. They were relatively tight because of the
concept that I described, But he was knifing that in.
He had one defant that had some similarity where fant
was over the middle. He knifed it into the hooks
own defender. He had a play where he's climbing the pocket.
(18:25):
Do you guys remember the one where he hits Tyler
Lockett About fifteen yards down the field. But then Tyler,
Tyler goes for it ends up being a twenty nine
yarder over the middle. He's climbing for it, he's pumping, pumping,
he has no body behind it. His right foot's forward.
It looked like his shoulders he was going to throw it,
so at least he had his shoulders behind it, even
(18:46):
though he's climbing. But then he has to pull it down. Well,
now when he reloads, he can't reload his entire shoulders.
He's just got to flip it with his arm. Because
of all this, there's literally nothing in his body to
add power to that throat, and yet he's still knife
it in. That's what I would call arm talent and
getting a twenty nine yard I mean just but but
but if we're gonna talk to Geno and we're probably
(19:07):
up up against it, I would say the thing that
is most impressing me if I if I take the
the four game Seattle's played and say, who's the best
football player that I see of the opponents, Meaning if
I could I could have one wish, just pluck that
guy off of their team and now he's a Seahawk.
(19:27):
My answer would be Aiden Hutchinson. Now Patrick Sartan's great,
Penny Sewell, there's some other guys that give me some pause.
But Aiden Hutchinson, I know, Greg, you know you're talking about, Hey,
he didn't get the sack. He is his presence. Oh
my god, he was just destroying the pocket over and oh,
it doesn't matter left side, right side. Uh and and
(19:49):
I mean he was just you know, Forsyth or whether
it was career, I mean he made each of them
look like J V High school.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
He didn't get sacked because you know, Smith was brilliant
and getting.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, but Gino's if you're grading a guy, it's so hard.
I mean, I played with three Hall of Fame quarterbacks.
It's really hard. When you walk come back and watch
the tape and you watch you know, we're watching the
end zone copy, we're watching the All twenty two. If
you've getting constant pressure, there's a lot of times where
you say, you know, like Elway, for example, beautiful athlete.
(20:22):
He'd say, oh, shoot, I got a little skittish on
that one. I got out of the pocket when I
didn't need to. And then you go, yeah, but Woody,
we didn't call him John. It was his nickname was
Woody because like Elwood and the Bruce brothers, so woody.
But you just you just had like the last ten
times you were in the pocket, you know, you had
dragons breathing on you. Of course you bailed unnecessarily, Like
this happens to the best of guys. Gino his decisions
(20:46):
to either stay in the pocket or when to get
out of the pocket. I mean, he's damn near perfect
when he's getting out of the pocket. It's because he
must get out of the pocket. And if he has
any chance to stay in there and be a man
and hang in there and take the hit. Now, you
don't hits like Lwa did, right, because they protect guys.
But but there's still a lot of courage that you
have to have, and that that pocket is constricting. So
(21:08):
is we can talk about all the good passing plays.
I'm most impressed with Gino's pot the just grading him
in the pocket. We just watched the game through a
toilet paper tube, so you don't know what happens when
when Gino lets the ball go. You're just watching Gino
in the pocket through a toilet paper tube. Uh uh uh.
And and if you're just grading him on that aspect.
(21:29):
I mean he's an A plus.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
He stood in there once when Hutchinson was coming right
down on him and he threw for first down on
third and eighth to Jackson Smith and Jigba across the middle.
He pulled up on his pull on his scramble into
Hutchinson's face to complete the pass. Yeah, that was his
most impressive play of the night. Indeed, Hugh, I appreciate it.
It's tough what we could talk about, but it's good
to talk to you. I'll be on the Seahawks round
(21:52):
table with Chuck and Bucking you tomorrow morning a day
a clock.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You've it's always good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Thank you as well.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You thanks Hugh Mellon as always as only he can,
going on about how great Jared Goff was, and he
was perfect, literally perfect. But he says, Gino his decisions
when to stay in the pocket or when to get
out of pocket, damn Neil perfect through four games for
Gino Smith.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
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Speaker 5 (22:42):
From the two five to three.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
You give Hugh a baby Aspen. I think he's having
a stroke. Does he know who he's talking to?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
When Hugh gets fired up, man, he can go. We
appreciate all of his insight. It's great information. So thank
you Hugh again for taking some time to join us
talking all things Seahawks and NAT.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And if Hugh hasn't to a point I got on Twitter,
Hugh hasn't always been on the Gino Smith train. No,
he hasn't. No, And so for him to say he's
been damn near perfect in his pocket presence and decision
making tells you how good he thinks he's been.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
He watches tape, he see it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Like you said, if you watched Geno through a paper tube,
that toilet paper tube.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, the pocket presence is there.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Let's see from the two l six regarding high school
n I L I wonder how child labor laws will
fit into this. I didn't even think of that parental consent.
That's where it starts. Do the parents allow that? Which
I think a lot of parents might, but we'll see there.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Unfortunately I haven't got a lot of parents for it.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Let's see from the four to two to five regarding
high school sports, getting getting paid for your name and
likeness of the American Waight education that's taken a back
seat several years ago. Companies don't care about your education,
solder shrug.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What companies don't care about your education? Try getting hired
at twenty twenty two years old with no education. That's
a what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I think they are looking at it from the standpoint
if I know shoupe an Il. I think from this standpoint,
if I know Greg Bell and he works at you
dub and Greg can give me a great recommendation. And
I have a high school diploma, but I have worked
at several other jobs, I might have a better opportunity
at Land said job because I know Greg Bell, and
(24:21):
he knows plenty of professors there can speak highly of me,
and now I get in the door just based off
of who you know.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Not so out a college degree. Possibly, yes, No, without
a college degree. You look at the studies of income
and income earning potential between college graduates and non college graduates,
it's not even close. It's a difference between upper and
middle and lower middle class and low class. Yeah, so
I'm talking socioeconomics. If you don't have a college degree,
(24:50):
the difference in your income earning potential is a mess.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And he's thinking about that when he's transferring to seven
schools and chasing NIL deals, I think a lot of
Christian he's telling me. No, Mike Girell telling me during
training camp. I asked him about nil and why he
didn't leave Division two Finley, and he said, I'm not
chasing that short term money. Those guys that were going
to all these different schools chasing short term money and
then having problems graduate. I'm chasing long term wealth for
(25:16):
my rest of my life.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Anyway, there's tons more to talk about NIO in high
school sports, and we are going to do that. We're
going to try to get somebody from the WIA, maybe
even the director of to talk more intelligently about weldy.
WIA sees thiscring in Washington among high school students. But
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Speaker 1 (26:11):
Last week whereund one of our breaks in the show
in the studio and Richmore pulled me aside and say, Greg,
you think you should we should broadcast.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
The Navy Air Force game. And I said sure.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's on a Saturday and it's going to be a
nine am kickoff, and it's kind of there's a lot
of people here in Pacific Northwest who are both Navy.
Bramerton Kitsapp and the Air Force, George based Lewis McCord.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, absolutely, Navy.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
He's undefeated leading an American Athletic Association.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Co leading it with Army. I think there'd be some
interest in that, so he I believe he is. I
haven't seen the schedule for Saturday, but I'm pretty sure
he's there broadcasting at nine am before our Husky Heart's
pregame show for Husky in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, Navy's still undefeated, Nyvy. I hate to say this,
They're still.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Undefeated in the first place in the American Athletic Conference
with Army. It's the first time Army and Navy have
been four and oh at the same time to beginn
of season since.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Nineteen forty five. The fall of forty five was the
end of World War Two. That's how long it's been.
Navy's a huge favorite because Air Force stinks.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That makes me feel good to say Army's four and oh,
Navy's four and oh. Navy is a huge favorite in
Colorado Springs. But get this, let's talk about what Navy's
done up to this point. What's Air Force has done
up to this point. Commander Chiefs Trophy Game, Air Force
has scored seven points against the same San Jose State
(27:35):
team that Wazoo toured for fifty four. Air Force scored
just three points at Baylor nineteen against Wyoming last week.
Navy's scoring in bushels forty one last week at UAB
fifty six on Memphis, which was a favorite to win.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
The American Conference at Army and Navy are now leading, and.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Navy scored thirty eight at Temple forty nine on Bookno
the overender for this game. Navy Air Force is thirty
five and half in college football in twenty twenty. I
know his service.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Academies, but still the way Navy.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Is scoring points right now, give me Navy Air Force
over thirty five and a half and a Commander in
Chiefs Trophy game.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They won't win. Neither team will win the Commander in Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Trophy because Army is gonna do that when they beat
Air Force and Navy here coming away in the season.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
But gimme Navy Air Force over thirty five and a half.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
With the way Navy scoring points, agree text fact to
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Speaker 5 (29:15):
Interesting pick.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
At least I'm consistent. I hate I was gonna pick
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giving up the points, but I just can't do that.
It's against my nature. I do no way am I
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Speaker 2 (30:05):
Seahawks Headquarters in Renton. Welcome back the Greg Best.
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Show with Christopher Kidd here from Seahawks head Quarters at
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Speaker 2 (30:45):
Hello sir, Hello l you. I'm very well. Thanks now
that I've slept for more than an hour and a half,
the final preseason game for the Kraken tonight against Edmondson
a climate Pledgerina, and then six days the opener against
the Saint Louis Blues. What are they still have left
to do in the preseason? What have they still yet
to settle either?
Speaker 7 (31:06):
I just got back and Dan Bilesman talked about this
will be the closest, you know, to a regular season
lineup that we'll see.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I like it.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Now Edmonton's been dropping in the same kind of lineup tonight,
so the goaltending's got to get better. For sure, it
has not been good in the preseason. But both those guys,
we kind of know what they can do. Roster spots
are interesting. They only have I believe it's twenty four
twenty five guys left, so they'd start a season with
(31:43):
twenty three twenty four in there. Ty car Chase Hurt,
We're not sure how he had a quote maintenance state today.
Dan Biles'm a very KOI with that. So I think
Cale Fleury's gonna get sent back down to Coachella. He's
still here, so I think, really they've got a week
and a half. I know, what do they have. They've
got until Tuesday to figure out the roster. This salary
(32:04):
cap is an interesting thing in the NHL. You've got
you've got to be cap compliant. Right now, they're kind
of barely cap compliant maybe, so you know, we'll kind
of see what they do over the next few days. Tonight,
it's gonna be interesting one and be a good game.
Like I said, both teams kind of you know, they
find out who your power play unit units are, who
can play with who, So they're still trying to find
(32:26):
some combinations. But I think the defensive core we're going
to see tonight one through six is probably what we'll
see in the regular season. Larsen and Dunn are still
together mon tours with Alexiak and Organs with Ryker Evans,
so I think that's intact. I think the lines maybe
there could be some shuffling, but yeah, they're just kind
of tweaking things right now.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
A long answer, the goaltending situation is still going to
look almost like a fifty to fifty split between Grubauer
and Or.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Is there still.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
I I I think so.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I think I think yes.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Neither.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Like I said, neither guys look great in the preseason.
I think so. I don't even know. I would maybe
if Grubauer is really good tonight, then he probably or
at least, you know, good, he probably gets the net
the first game on Tuesday. If not, then maybe that's
a question and maybe maybe they do go to Decord,
but I think they'll defer it to Grubauer. I think
in the end, though ideal world, you probably have a
(33:22):
one in a one A and how that split works,
maybe it's fifty five, forty five, fifty two, forty eight,
somewhere in there. Whatever it ends up being, I think
you'll be they'll be split them depending if unless someone
gets really hot. I don't think they're married to like
the Bruins last year with Swamon and Olmark went split split,
But I don't know if they're married to that or not.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
The Cord up and some eyes for them last year today.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Yeah, like he gave them a lot of hope and
just in the sense that he can he he they
didn't know if you could be like in every like
you know, a number one netminder in the league. I
talked to a scout last into last year and for
another NHL team of pro scout that was here, and
he thought Decord was was not just shouldn't just be
(34:05):
the number one. He thought it was no question that
he should be the number one, which I thought was interesting.
You know, Grubauer has just been kind of banged up,
but we saw what gruberki doing the playoffs two years ago.
He's pretty good. So yeah, good problem to have. Hopefully
they're both playing well. Like I said, neither one of
us had a really good preseason. In fact, they've both
been really bad in the preseason, so hopefully.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
They're not betterber the whole game to night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
That's Edmonton final preseason game for the Crack at seven o'clock.
Here Mike Pittan with the pregame show. It's six thirty
on ninety three foot three K.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, I think it's Mikey.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
I think is Mikey's first full pregame too, So whole
meal deal tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah. It is an audition for the regular seay,
it is, it is. What do you have today?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
We're gonna check in.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Gary Parrish is going to join us our college basketball insider.
He'll join us coming up at twelve twenty, and we're
going to discuss with him Gonzaga to the PAC twelve
and Memphis is still maybe in play for the PAC twelve.
Why or how does that make sense? But what is
Gonzag due for the profile of the conference. We'll talk
to Gary about that coming up at twelve twenty. Sea
(35:04):
Peblos all a week. We visit from the thirty thirteen
at at one o'clock today and then Mike homberand at
two Factor Fiction two thirty five.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's and Forness in Your ears for the next three hours.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Is every weekday twelve to three. I miss you out
at Seahawks today, Chris and and.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
And yeah, well that's okay. We'll be out there soon enough,
probably next week.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You're busy enough, you get plenty to do.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And forness is up next, Greg Beba the News you
being here at Seahawks headquarters. Thanks for listening. Chris Kidbeck
in the studio and La Pey, thank you. We'll be
on the air again tomorrow. I'll probably be out here
at Seahawks again tomorrow at ten to noon. AND's next
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