October 30, 2024 • 37 mins
Hugh Millen is back for his weekly visit to talk all things Seahawks as they're preparing for the Los Angeles Rams. Gregg and Christopher hit the text line and read back messages from listeners, Gregg makes his pick in Fact or Fiction, and the guys close show w/ Ian Furness as he shares what he has planned for his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Hugh Millin joins us as he does every Wednesday at
this time. Hugh, good morning, Hello, good morning. You need
to be with you guys as well. Thank you. Let
me ask you a big picture how would you fix
the Seahawks offense. It's a multi faceted question, I know,
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But where would you begin? And what do you think
is to path forward for the Seahawks on offense?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, I think this is a tough week to ask
me that question because there's that same scene as believing
and you know, I watched the game and we live
and and you know, I didn't think much of what
Seattle had to offer and then I thought it was
worse watching the tape, the coach's tape. It was a
little bit demoralizing, just you know, both offensively and defensively.
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I'm not gonna run through the numbers, but the the
discrepancy in the running game, you know, just the the
offensive line play. And the reason I say, I've got
to remind myself that that seeing is not always believing
because or you shouldn't always believe what you see, because
I've in my experience in the NFL, the opinions that
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I've formed, is it just because if you look at
just the Bills game, you're not gonna feel really good
about the Seahawks. But that happens, and you uh, and
and and then you know, just a little switch. It's
like a Jenga, you know, like like when when the
jingle whole thing, the whole pile falls down, you just think, oh,
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this is a catastrophe. Well if you would have just
done one little thing different, you know, the whole structure
be is still alive. I don't know if that's a
great analogy I just came to mind, But you know
what's concerning to me is the Seahawks in terms of
the cap total expended on the offensive line sixteen point
two million. That ranks thirty second. You know, second in
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the league is the Chiefs was sixty point seven. I
mean they're four xing us in terms of cap expenditure. Now,
that doesn't guarantee that the spending money is going to
get because Carolina is fourth, the Colts are number one,
But you know, Detroit tod eight. You know, there's some
good teams up there. San Francisco's at eleven. You know,
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I think we can agree on this that that in
our perfect vision of the Seahawks. You know, you're probably
not at thirty two there, so I think there's a
little bit of a balance, but you just go. You know,
Mark Twain said, if you have a reputation as an
early riser, you can sleep till noon. So you've got
in John Schneider, you know, a guy that has earned
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a very good reputation this league because on balance, he's
a very good general manager. But these are his offensive
line picks since he's been on the job. These are
top four picks. And then you tell me what what
they have in common. Russell o' kun was his first one.
That's the ninth overall John Moffatt, James Carpenter, Justin Britt,
Mark Lewinsky, Terry Poole, Reese Odeambu, Jermaina Fitti, Ethan Postik,
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Phil Haynes, Damian Lewis, Abraham Abraham Lucas Abe Lucas, Charles Cross,
Anthony Bradford, and Christian Haines. Those are those are I
started with the third round, but I even wrote it
out to fourth throng. But you know what they have
in common. Not one of them got a second.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Contract, right, I'm just gonna say that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I should have given the opportunity. You know, I didn't.
I didn't want to like embarrass you or anything.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But now, Kung was probably the most accomplished of those,
and that was fourteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, and uh, and you know he was he was
the sixth I beg your pardon, he was the position
what oh he was number six overall. I'm sorry, and uh,
Charles Cross is the ninth. So to me, there's kind
of been three franchise left tackles that that stick out. Obviously,
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there's Walt who's in you know, one to one. Uh
so he's he's far and away the premier guy. But
I don't think that Charles Cross is Russell locum. And
I think Russell o'coum was more good than bad. But
it wasn't like he just blew you away.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I I I.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Consult Pro Football Focus here and there, and and I'm
certainly aware of what they say. I think they get
more right than wrong. This is just one man's opinion.
I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just there's time and
I know there's times they get factual stuff wrong. They
assign a uh, you know, a touchdown for example, to
a dB when they didn't consider the coverage there. But
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but I know Charles cross is getting pretty good PFF
grades and and Charles Cross is preventing usually preventing his
man from getting a sack or a pressure. The issue
I have with Charles Crosses is he takes the combat
too close to the quarterback. And and he yes, he
stays between the quarterback and his man, which is ultimately
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what you need to do. But I think he puts
pressure on the quarterback because he retreats so far. You know,
there's a there's a term offensive lineman used jump set,
and Howard mud was a huge proponent. You know, one
of the best offensive line coaches ever. He protected Peyton
Manning and had the lowest sack rates for years and years,
and he liked his offensive tackles to jump set, even
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not just in the quick game. What that means is
is to kind of go lateral, go out and get
that defensive end near the line of scrimmage. Don't let
him get ahead of steam because if you if you
do too deep of a kickstep, you're giving up too
much ground. And now you're letting him get ahead of steam.
He's a better athlete than you. He can convert speed
to power. Blah blah blah. So there's there's But Howard
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mud readily concedes. And I one time had a uh
a session with him. He invited me his house over
in Kirkland and we were watching uh, I mean, it
was it was awesome afternoon. We spent about three four
hours just watching offensive line tape. And you know, fascinating
guy to you know, forty years offensive line coach, you know,
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But but you know, he readily concedes. Hey, there's a
philosophical difference. Do you want some guys like the jump set,
some guys like the kickstep and the retreat, But uh,
when I watched Cross I think about Howard Mudd and
and his philosophy of like, hey take take let the
combat take close place, closer to the line of scrimmage,
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you know. So at any event, I just think offensive
line they've got, they've got, they've got to draft better,
they've got to acquire better, they got to spend more,
and they've got to when they do, you use resources
to acquire they got. I think they got to have
a higher batting average on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Now, with the offensive line and the issues, it's basically
left Kim Walker in the dark. He's been struggling for
the most part because the old line has struggled. When
you watch the tape, are you seeing that the Titans
are having more success, especially when they bring in aj
Barner and Faroll Brown to have successful running And with
that being said, is that something they should move towards
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and go twelve thirteen personnel more consistently and hopes that
the running game can find more of a rhythm.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, let's first of all acknowledge that the league is
an eleven personnel league, which is one running back, one
tight end. That's your eleven, and then you can always
do the math there's five targets, so then whatever's leftovers
is the number of receivers, so that leaves to the receivers.
So if you're you're gonna do a lot of twelve personnel,
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that means you're taking off the field either Tyler DK
or JSN, and I don't think they're inclined to do
that now there's been years past. I think twenty twenty
two they did a lot of twelve. They even did
thirteen personnel. This is a bad week to ask me
about Farrell Brown because the play that preceded I know
you got the Gino Smith getting his footstepped on was
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a lead play where Seattle they had they were in
the I formation with Brady Russell acting as the fullback,
and they were just going lead off the right side.
I think that was the play where they put Charles
cross greg from left tackle to right tackle and and
Farrell Brown had to block the nd man on the
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line of scrimmage. He sees a flash of the linebacker
who reads kind of an ISO. Whoever fifty four is
for the Bills. Pretty good player, by the way, but
that's that's still Brady Russell's man. Even if that guy
blitzes there. There's no you're not gonna You're not gonna
disengage from that. And yet so he disengages because he
sees the flash and he leaves the end man and
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and so he blocks nobody's just kind of standing there.
You know, you want to give him some popcorn because
he was just watching the play. And so, so, I
don't know, I'm not I'm not. I'm not a big
on Pharaoh Brown. I watch him in the passing game
and I'm like, who's that offensive tackle running running the
dig route over the middle? Oh, you know, it's eighty six. Like,
I don't know, I just don't the movement. Not not,
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I'm not. I'm not a Pharaoh brand fan. So but
I think Noah Fan is probably you know, an average
NFL tight end if I'm just being real. I think
there's opportunities to make plays, But I don't think he's
a guy that you you know, kind of build a
foundation around. So so short version of a J.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Barner.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Look, he's making young mistakes. I mean on the other
side of I just mentioned a goal on play on
went in. On the other end, Barner's you know, lined
up on the left side and and ultimately, whoever seven
is greg for the Bills, the safety just you know,
bam smacking the B gap totally unblocked and and the
tight ends we're blocking out to get corners and we're
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letting safeties, uh, you know come through the B gap. Now,
that was a little bit difficult because the Bills oddly
were not running a goal line defense. They were just staying,
you know, in a forty front, which is hard because
there's there's more guys at the second level, linebackers at
the second level that you got to decipher. And it
ended up being a pretty good scheme because then you're
forcing lineman to make plays in space as opposed to
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you know, you know, guys that are just grunting and
trying to burrow. So at any event, not to get
in the weeds on the schemes of there. I just
saw a week of MS missed assignments by tight ends.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This week, Mike McDonald hugh mentioned sunk cost and maybe
he's going to spend less time doing things that are
he calls them sunk costs, and focus more on what's
working and what's working well, he mentioned what I asked him,
what are they? What do you do well, and what
are the sun costs? And one of the things he
said to do they do well is pre snap motion
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and the effects has had on defenses and the change
of pace meaning no huddle at times they've gotten in
a hurry up. Is that a recipe to perhaps get better?
And do you see trying to run the ball as
one of those sunk costs that Mike McDonald refused to acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Is well, I don't think running the ball in a
general sense is a sunk cost, because I don't think
you ever give up on that. I do think and
you know what I promise you for the roundtable tomorrow, Greg,
I'll have some numbers for this because I've got the
whole sheet and I've monitored you know what when they
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snap the ball, what the play clock is. You know,
I have that database. And then when it's no huddle,
and so when you get that combination of a no
huddle and b snapping it with fifteen seconds or more,
even sometimes twenty seconds or more. You know, the third
drive of Sunday against the Bills, when they went hurry
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up there the long drive they stretch there in the
middle where they went five straight passes. They are five
straight completions all excuse me, ten yards or more, and
in that four of the five were no huddle, you know,
kind of hurry now that that's a little bit of
(14:17):
a gamble because your your defense. If you go no
huddle and you go up tempo and you go three
and out, then that puts obviously a greater burden on
your defense in terms of the rest and what have you.
And so but I think that McDonald is seen, Hey,
there's enough of success when we go tempo that it's
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worth the risk, worth the risk, and it's you know,
at least from a standpoint of harmony, I think this
would be a topic where it's good that the head
coach is a defensive guy so that there's less infighting. Me,
do you understand what I'm saying, Greg and Chris Right,
he's gonna yield. If the head coach gives his blessing
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and he's coming from the defensive side, then you know
there's not any grousing by the defensive coordinator saying, oh,
you know, the head coach, he's an offensive guy. You know,
he just wants to do it what's best for the offense,
you know, and without any consideration to you know how
it's impacting my defense, Like, you're not gonna get that.
If if if McDonald, if you're watching the game against
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the Rams and you see the Seahawks in a high
variety of no huddle up tempo stuff a, you know
that that's McDonald has given his blessing. He's discussed and
McDonald has carefully weighed the impact potentially on the defense,
and he's considered an acceptable risk.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How about screen passes? Are they a sunk cost? And
as a quarterback, I think the obvious is you just
dart that one that need dirt, the one that he
threw to the shirt.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, I assume he's been
coached that since in high school and certainly in college,
and that the professional level that that there's a certain
I want to call random nature. But the timing's hard
with screens particularly. You know, now, when you say screen,
I mean in my dieu, in my lexicon when I'm
taking notes. Obviously, there's wide receiver screens that are primarily
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smoke screens, which are to the widest guy, and bubble
screens are to the slot. Okay, that just a generic sense.
There's also tunnel screens where the line, the line is
getting out. And the first two that I mentioned are
wide receivers, you know, so there's there's kind of three
basic varieties of wide receiver screens. There's certainly more, but
those are the general. And then with running backs, you
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have slip screen that's in the B gap. You have
swing screens where you have a quick a quick swing
obviously with lineman and or tight ends out in front.
And then you have slow screens. And I think you're
talking about the slow screens, and that was what was
the interception. That's where where you know the running back
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he's going he's gonna hold, hold, hold, and then he's
gonna find an area and and you know, different teams
have different landmarks, but you know, generally, you know, let's
say two yards outside the tackle, two yards behind the
line of scrimmage and you have your spot or two
yards out of the outside the ghost of the tight end,
meaning if there's no tight end, if if there was
a tight endyways, you have those landmarks on the slow screen.
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And when when you're coach on a slow screen as
a quarterback, if it's covered, you know, if the if
if you look at the tape of all the good
plays by defenses in the NFL on slow screens, invariably
you're gonna find defensive line that says, aha, no you don't.
You know, you didn't fool me here, and then they
run over to the spot right, and so you know
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it's a hit or missive whether or not you sell
the opposing defensive line. And if you don't, then you
got to dirt the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And Mike McDonald's said that after the game, But yeah,
that's one you want to throw into the.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Ground, especially Greg, because it's first and ten, you're at
the plus forty five, you've been moving the ball, you're
down fourteen was that third quarter? Right mid third quarter?
And if you score there obviously now seventeen to ten,
you've got momentum. You bring the crowd back in the game,
You give life to the defense. Like that was a
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really really critical error.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm gon give you one last parting shot of what
do you what's encouraging this? What can you give Seayawk
fans to hang a hat on and be encouraged about?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
If anything, well, I think the second aar well, what
gives me the encouragement I'm still gonna hold. I think
you've got a lot of intellectual horsepower on both sides
of the ball. And I think that that you've got
a guy in McDonald. Now we didn't even talk about
the defense, but I was the whole build a wall
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thing didn't work real well against the Bills, so you
know that was another reason for it. But I think
McDonald's a smart guy. I think he's going to figure
it out. The probability is is good that he'll figure
it out. I think Ryan Grubb is this smart guy.
He certainly has a learning curve with the NFL that
should be steep, right. But I'll tell you one thing,
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I'd rather have Ryan Grubb, who, by the way, he
is forty eight years old. He's not a younger, you know,
it's not like he's thirty one.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I'd rather have a smart guy who has a learning
curve and he's gonna be up and running, you know,
every week he's learning, learning, learning. I'd rather have a
smart than you know, a twenty five year veteran that
as I've I've said before. You know, sometimes I've sat
in these meetings and I'm just thinking, quietly, what would
this guy be doing if he wasn't coaching pro football?
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Because there's just nothing there and it can't you know,
it can't pull a layer of onion. And and look,
there's some brilliant guys. There's guys. I've sat in the
meeting and go, man, you're a freaking genius, you know,
And I just want to soak up at what everything
they say with like a sponge. So but my point
is there's a disparity in terms of ultimately the ceiling
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of a guy. And I think that you've got on
in McDonald and grew Up. I think you've got guys
with high ceilings and they'll figure it out now that
you know they but they've got to They got to
do a better job of acquiring some of this talent.
Like we talked about it, the onset of the segment exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I get the feeling you'd rather have Ryan grew Up
and Shane Waldron as the Seahawks office coordinator.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah. I just think, Look, I think it would be predictable.
You'd say, Okay, in the first month or two, are
there going to be some growing pains as he figures
it out?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, you would predict that because he's new to the NFL.
But again, his ceiling is higher because he's he's just
a smarter guy and and and he will and he's
a grinder, and he'll figure this thing out in all probability. Look,
in probability, nothing's nothing's one hundred percent, nothing zero. So
I'm not you know, you know, I'm not saying I've
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bent my pension on it. But I think the signs
are you know, Okay, I got the eight ball. I
just shook the eight ball right, and I'm looking down
and I'm like, signs are pointing up. That's what I read.
Because they've got smart guys on each side of the ball.
That is that unfair? Man, I got blinders? Am I
missing something?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I think that's the cause for optimism. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
We'll do the cause for optimist.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
We'll do pace tomorrow on the Seahawks round table with you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Thank you, sir, Rock and Roll, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Thanks Humelling as he is every Wednesday here on ninety
three point three KJR fmily says that the optimism is
that he's got they got brainpower on offense and defense
to fix this. As Mike McDonald said this week, it's
not the x's and o's, it's about the players executing.
And he's still throttling back. He doesn't even have his
full offense and defense installed yet and we're eight games
under the regular season. We talked about this, Chris, that
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they were not going to be fully installed until they
got the foundation down, and the foundation is not set yet.
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Speaker 3 (22:51):
We talked a little bit about Halloween and we had
multiple people text in, Hey, Greg, you should watch Gladiator
for Halloween.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So great, what says you?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I see my wife want to do that?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Oh, there you go. And then you also asked another
good question.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You said, if DK Metcalf would have played on Sunday,
would he have made much of a difference?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And people text in and said, from the two o six, I.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Think DK would have made a little bit of an impact,
but I don't think it makes up for the major
errors they were making on both sides of the football.
This is also from the two five to three. Yes,
he would have made a difference, made it too easy
to defend. Jason Unlockett not sure it would have opened
the run game up more since grub Sure likes to
throw a lot let's see from the two five to three.
(23:37):
If DK is such a foundational player, how much did
the Seahawks pay him next season? Something Greg has mentioned before.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Okay, you're gonna get ae hundred million dollar contract five years,
maybe four years.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Let's say I'm with that.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Ticket price is sent fans selling the tickets. All that
and above from the two o six when Newman drops
beer prices to five dollars, I won't sell my tickets.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I don't know if that will ever happen.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
But two people pointed this out, the three to six
too and the six to oh two both said most
of those season tickets on that side, the east side,
lower one hundred section are corporate owned. Now six oh
two says my company owns twenty three pair on that
side and only two pair elsewhere. Three six sosas most
of those particular season tickets are in fact owned by
investors who have no interest in going to games. And
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we talked about that they aren't true fans in the
sense that they haven't been here since the Kingdome and
the Tera days, and so they more have to just sell.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Them for profit.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Tickets too expensive for the quality of product. We even
look awful and wins between beer, food and parking and tickets.
I'm already have four hundred dollars plus and that's from Marcus.
I have the two oh six.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Here's an interesting pit point from two oh six. It's
hard to find a Seahawks fan to buyer season ticket
as faith value lately the way they're're playing Buffalo and
Green Bay fans will pay double.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And why would a fan not sell to someone who's
gonna pay him double. I can't understand the logical that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
From the four two five. Now, I am not saying
the Sucks would have won, but Metcalf changed the whole
game against the Bills. One good catch could change the
whole dynamic and creates adrenaline, motivates other players, and creates momentum.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah. I'm just not sure that's what twenty one points.
But yeah, seven, yeah, I agree, they win the game.
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Speaker 1 (26:07):
They each play each other, and whoever wins the most
of those round robin games wins the Commander in Chief
Trophy gets a visit to go to the White House
in the offseason and get the Commander Chief Trophy. Armies
won it the last couple of years. Navy's already beaten
air Force in Colorado Springs. I'll talk about that in
a minute. Army has yet to play air Force until
right now. This week West Point, New York on Saturday,
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Air Force at Army total points forty one and a half.
Armies have better than three touchdown favorite, which is tricky
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Forty one and a half total points. Check this out.
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seven versus Rice. Air Force gave up fifty two five
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The Zoomis gave up thirty one to Wyoming. Heck, the
Squids Navy scored thirty four on the Zoomi's a Colorado
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Give me the over.
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week at Chris Commander in Chiefs game. It's a cool scene.
But those who have never been no game at West Point,
go to the parade in the morning. It's a great
place to visit, not as great to live there, But
then you walk up the hill from the parade you
watch the game. They're remodeling the stadium this year and
the whole east side on the reservoir side is under construction,
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so have a lot of fewer seats available, but it's
still a really cool scene. My brother must still talk.
He played for the Rutgers. He still talks about going
up to the West Point and playing and what a
cool time he had there.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Air Force at.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Army they alternate home and home each year. The Force
the Army Navy game is always at a neutral site.
A couple of years ago it is at West Point
because of the COVID year and they closed down in
the campuses and they weren't fans in the stamps for
a public in Philadelphia, so that they moved to the
West Point. But otherwise it's not on the campuses of
the Post. It's it's at a neutral site. This year
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it's at Landover, Maryland. Just went McIntyre and I will
be there December twelfth and thirteenth for the Army Navy Game,
which gonna be this year.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Greg ninety five percent.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, alright, some people are starting to believe.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Those four percenters. Man, you guys are sick people.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Those twenty four individuals, over five hundred people agree, and
then you got twenty four knucklehead.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
They're like, eh, so far, they don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Next morning, me here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center
in Renting on ninety three point three kJ RFM. Welcome
back to the Greg Best Show. With Christopher Kids, the
Virginia Mason Athletics Center here and Rentina. I'm going but
the Mayor Maple Valley in person, the in Fornett back
from an eight gold night on the crad.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, that was something else. Huh, the opposite of what
we saw last Sunday with the Seahawks. It's got a nice.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Did they score eight in the game at all of us?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I think it tied that.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
No, I've moved on to the next game.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It's the next game.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I don't know, uh for I mean natural hat trick
from on tour.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Ye first of his career. He's at at trick.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'm surprised that he's had multiple four point nights, but
never a channeler seams had four assists last I just
they blew Montreal out. I mean they blew them out
of the world. That was fun, fun game. They're a
weird team. They're and I think I'm feeling a lot
like the NHL has a very NFL vibe to it.
(31:32):
There's the elite teams, and then there's a lower middle class,
and then there's the you know, like you know, there's
kind of a class system, and I think Seattle's kind
of in the I think we're a middle class team
in the NFL and kind of a middle class team
right now in the NHL too, you know. I mean
like Carolina is on a different level, Winnipeg's probably on
a different level in a sense in the NHL, And
(31:54):
I mean we've seen different level teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Haven'tly, And they're playing another elite talent wise. Anyway, Toronto tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, well, but Toronto's scuffling, so was Boston. This is it.
This is a road trip. When you looked at it
on paper and said, okay, five games, if you can
go to two and one like they just did in
the homestand that probably be really good home road trip.
I think you could go three and two. See, yeah,
well you get the first one. That's good, and that
was actually, honestly, of all the teams you're playing, they're
the weakest one, right. You need to get that one
(32:22):
and then hopefully they can get going.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I'm not excited. I'm interested to hear Mike McDonald today
about just generally he's got a couple of days to digest.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
This, and the most interesting thing he said to me,
was the sunk costs that it implied he's going to
start dumping things that aren't working and focus more on
that what works, and it's not x's and o's, it's that's,
that's the players, and it's unusual for him.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
And that Okay, let me, let me. I'm curious. That's
a god, we only have three minutes. What do you think? Okay,
the offensive line, we all know that. But if you
were just to say, biggest problem with this football team
is what physicality on a scrimmage? Just being dogs and yeah,
just junk yard dogs. Don't you feel like they miss
(33:08):
a lot of tackles as well? Absolutely, which goes into
what you just said.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I never thought i'd think that with that with this coach,
and I didn't think that would be the case. I
find that strange.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
At a point, it doesn't become coaching because you can
stress and they do stress it, they practice it, and
they don't bring them to ground because the NFL doesn't
have energies. But eventually the players have to do it well.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
And they had more physical practices in training camp this
year than they had Underpeak, much more. I'm just I'm
at a loss.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I'm just at a lot.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I I I think on paper, they're better than we've seen.
I like, I like some of the at lists, and
we all know the offensive line is what it is.
But I like this team better than than they're playing. Yes,
that's what kind of surprises me. The wet Buffalo did. Okay,
I'll take the other one. Here's the next one. I'd ask.
(33:59):
The Geno Smith conversation, I think is going to change
quite a bit over here in the next month or two.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I hated what I.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Saw from him body language wise, and having been in
your seat in the press box for sixteen years, I
don't always i'd have people text me all the time,
oh you see that. No, not necessarily, because I'm watching
the game and I'm seeing stuff that you guys don't see,
like who's in the tent and who's going to locker room.
But I'll tell you, man, the cutaways TV term the
cutaways of Geno Smith the last two of the last
(34:30):
three weeks are really disturbing, Like his body language is.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Awful, disturbing, and that he's not being a leader.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of you know kind of
i'll use the term whining, but you know, just bad
body language. Even in the worst of times his first
two years as a starter here, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
See that he's playing for a contract. I know his
contract doesn't end until after twenty twenty five, but they
have a decision to make on him after this year.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Well, I think the decision gets easier every week. I
just don't like what I see from him. And I
and I'm a Gino fan. I am a Gino fan.
Let me say that first. I think Gino Smith gives
you a better chance to win than a lot of
guys would around the league. But what i've when the
things have been going wrong lately, it has not when
DK Metcalf's coming over and kind of trying to be
(35:18):
your guy that console you and to try to pump
you back up and the voice of reason. And I
love DK two, but that should be the other way around.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Of course, metay it helped Metcalfe was in sweats and wasn't.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
In the right but like he knew, he saw, he
understood what was going on. Gino's got to be better.
Gino's got to be better. There is no heir apparent
behind Geno Smith, I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And this is a.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Brutal draft quarterback wise in college because you sure as
hell don't want Sanders and you start going down the list.
Back ain't the guy, right, I mean it ain't nobody
out there. Got six guys last year, none this year anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
One of them just got benched Anthony Richards and they
may have taken Yeah, what do you have today?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
They're a red flag with that guy all the way around. Uh,
we're gonna we'll check in with I think boy mafiy
is gonna stop. Oh okay, so we'll talk about what
we just discussed with boy mafe. Uh, we'll do that
coming up r A off the top of the show.
We'll hear from Steve Polozola Pro Football Focus at one
o'clock today, and then we'll probably jam through some of
the stuff that Mike McDonald says it too. Here from
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would be next Marty one to know this week, all right,
touching up to Monday night game. You know, Oh, I chase,
I chase every Monday, I chase you go after army.
I chase.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
A couple of things only clean up from the text
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for Air Force went healthy. He was their feature back
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ninety three point three kJ ARE, the familiar voice of
Hugh Millin joins us as he does every Wednesday at
this time. Hugh, good morning, Hello, good morning. You need
to be with you guys as well. Thank you. Let
me ask you a big picture how would you fix
the Seahawks offense. It's a multi faceted question, I know,
(02:34):
But where would you begin? And what do you think
is to path forward for the Seahawks on offense?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, I think this is a tough week to ask
me that question because there's that same scene as believing
and you know, I watched the game and we live
and and you know, I didn't think much of what
Seattle had to offer and then I thought it was
worse watching the tape, the coach's tape. It was a
little bit demoralizing, just you know, both offensively and defensively.
(03:02):
I'm not gonna run through the numbers, but the the
discrepancy in the running game, you know, just the the
offensive line play. And the reason I say, I've got
to remind myself that that seeing is not always believing
because or you shouldn't always believe what you see, because
I've in my experience in the NFL, the opinions that
(03:25):
I've formed, is it just because if you look at
just the Bills game, you're not gonna feel really good
about the Seahawks. But that happens, and you uh, and
and and then you know, just a little switch. It's
like a Jenga, you know, like like when when the
jingle whole thing, the whole pile falls down, you just think, oh,
(03:48):
this is a catastrophe. Well if you would have just
done one little thing different, you know, the whole structure
be is still alive. I don't know if that's a
great analogy I just came to mind, But you know
what's concerning to me is the Seahawks in terms of
the cap total expended on the offensive line sixteen point
two million. That ranks thirty second. You know, second in
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the league is the Chiefs was sixty point seven. I
mean they're four xing us in terms of cap expenditure. Now,
that doesn't guarantee that the spending money is going to
get because Carolina is fourth, the Colts are number one,
But you know, Detroit tod eight. You know, there's some
good teams up there. San Francisco's at eleven. You know,
(04:36):
I think we can agree on this that that in
our perfect vision of the Seahawks. You know, you're probably
not at thirty two there, so I think there's a
little bit of a balance, but you just go. You know,
Mark Twain said, if you have a reputation as an
early riser, you can sleep till noon. So you've got
in John Schneider, you know, a guy that has earned
(04:58):
a very good reputation this league because on balance, he's
a very good general manager. But these are his offensive
line picks since he's been on the job. These are
top four picks. And then you tell me what what
they have in common. Russell o' kun was his first one.
That's the ninth overall John Moffatt, James Carpenter, Justin Britt,
Mark Lewinsky, Terry Poole, Reese Odeambu, Jermaina Fitti, Ethan Postik,
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Phil Haynes, Damian Lewis, Abraham Abraham Lucas Abe Lucas, Charles Cross,
Anthony Bradford, and Christian Haines. Those are those are I
started with the third round, but I even wrote it
out to fourth throng. But you know what they have
in common. Not one of them got a second.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Contract, right, I'm just gonna say that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I should have given the opportunity. You know, I didn't.
I didn't want to like embarrass you or anything.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But now, Kung was probably the most accomplished of those,
and that was fourteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, and uh, and you know he was he was
the sixth I beg your pardon, he was the position
what oh he was number six overall. I'm sorry, and uh,
Charles Cross is the ninth. So to me, there's kind
of been three franchise left tackles that that stick out. Obviously,
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there's Walt who's in you know, one to one. Uh
so he's he's far and away the premier guy. But
I don't think that Charles Cross is Russell locum. And
I think Russell o'coum was more good than bad. But
it wasn't like he just blew you away.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I I I.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Consult Pro Football Focus here and there, and and I'm
certainly aware of what they say. I think they get
more right than wrong. This is just one man's opinion.
I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just there's time and
I know there's times they get factual stuff wrong. They
assign a uh, you know, a touchdown for example, to
a dB when they didn't consider the coverage there. But
(06:52):
but I know Charles cross is getting pretty good PFF
grades and and Charles Cross is preventing usually preventing his
man from getting a sack or a pressure. The issue
I have with Charles Crosses is he takes the combat
too close to the quarterback. And and he yes, he
stays between the quarterback and his man, which is ultimately
(07:15):
what you need to do. But I think he puts
pressure on the quarterback because he retreats so far. You know,
there's a there's a term offensive lineman used jump set,
and Howard mud was a huge proponent. You know, one
of the best offensive line coaches ever. He protected Peyton
Manning and had the lowest sack rates for years and years,
and he liked his offensive tackles to jump set, even
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not just in the quick game. What that means is
is to kind of go lateral, go out and get
that defensive end near the line of scrimmage. Don't let
him get ahead of steam because if you if you
do too deep of a kickstep, you're giving up too
much ground. And now you're letting him get ahead of steam.
He's a better athlete than you. He can convert speed
to power. Blah blah blah. So there's there's But Howard
(07:59):
mud readily concedes. And I one time had a uh
a session with him. He invited me his house over
in Kirkland and we were watching uh, I mean, it
was it was awesome afternoon. We spent about three four
hours just watching offensive line tape. And you know, fascinating
guy to you know, forty years offensive line coach, you know,
(08:20):
But but you know, he readily concedes. Hey, there's a
philosophical difference. Do you want some guys like the jump set,
some guys like the kickstep and the retreat, But uh,
when I watched Cross I think about Howard Mudd and
and his philosophy of like, hey take take let the
combat take close place, closer to the line of scrimmage,
(08:43):
you know. So at any event, I just think offensive
line they've got, they've got, they've got to draft better,
they've got to acquire better, they got to spend more,
and they've got to when they do, you use resources
to acquire they got. I think they got to have
a higher batting average on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Now, with the offensive line and the issues, it's basically
left Kim Walker in the dark. He's been struggling for
the most part because the old line has struggled. When
you watch the tape, are you seeing that the Titans
are having more success, especially when they bring in aj
Barner and Faroll Brown to have successful running And with
that being said, is that something they should move towards
(09:21):
and go twelve thirteen personnel more consistently and hopes that
the running game can find more of a rhythm.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, let's first of all acknowledge that the league is
an eleven personnel league, which is one running back, one
tight end. That's your eleven, and then you can always
do the math there's five targets, so then whatever's leftovers
is the number of receivers, so that leaves to the receivers.
So if you're you're gonna do a lot of twelve personnel,
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that means you're taking off the field either Tyler DK
or JSN, and I don't think they're inclined to do
that now there's been years past. I think twenty twenty
two they did a lot of twelve. They even did
thirteen personnel. This is a bad week to ask me
about Farrell Brown because the play that preceded I know
you got the Gino Smith getting his footstepped on was
(10:15):
a lead play where Seattle they had they were in
the I formation with Brady Russell acting as the fullback,
and they were just going lead off the right side.
I think that was the play where they put Charles
cross greg from left tackle to right tackle and and
Farrell Brown had to block the nd man on the
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line of scrimmage. He sees a flash of the linebacker
who reads kind of an ISO. Whoever fifty four is
for the Bills. Pretty good player, by the way, but
that's that's still Brady Russell's man. Even if that guy
blitzes there. There's no you're not gonna You're not gonna
disengage from that. And yet so he disengages because he
sees the flash and he leaves the end man and
(10:57):
and so he blocks nobody's just kind of standing there.
You know, you want to give him some popcorn because
he was just watching the play. And so, so, I
don't know, I'm not I'm not. I'm not a big
on Pharaoh Brown. I watch him in the passing game
and I'm like, who's that offensive tackle running running the
dig route over the middle? Oh, you know, it's eighty six. Like,
I don't know, I just don't the movement. Not not,
(11:20):
I'm not. I'm not a Pharaoh brand fan. So but
I think Noah Fan is probably you know, an average
NFL tight end if I'm just being real. I think
there's opportunities to make plays, But I don't think he's
a guy that you you know, kind of build a
foundation around. So so short version of a J.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Barner.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Look, he's making young mistakes. I mean on the other
side of I just mentioned a goal on play on
went in. On the other end, Barner's you know, lined
up on the left side and and ultimately, whoever seven
is greg for the Bills, the safety just you know,
bam smacking the B gap totally unblocked and and the
tight ends we're blocking out to get corners and we're
(12:01):
letting safeties, uh, you know come through the B gap. Now,
that was a little bit difficult because the Bills oddly
were not running a goal line defense. They were just staying,
you know, in a forty front, which is hard because
there's there's more guys at the second level, linebackers at
the second level that you got to decipher. And it
ended up being a pretty good scheme because then you're
forcing lineman to make plays in space as opposed to
(12:22):
you know, you know, guys that are just grunting and
trying to burrow. So at any event, not to get
in the weeds on the schemes of there. I just
saw a week of MS missed assignments by tight ends.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This week, Mike McDonald hugh mentioned sunk cost and maybe
he's going to spend less time doing things that are
he calls them sunk costs, and focus more on what's
working and what's working well, he mentioned what I asked him,
what are they? What do you do well, and what
are the sun costs? And one of the things he
said to do they do well is pre snap motion
(12:58):
and the effects has had on defenses and the change
of pace meaning no huddle at times they've gotten in
a hurry up. Is that a recipe to perhaps get better?
And do you see trying to run the ball as
one of those sunk costs that Mike McDonald refused to acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Is well, I don't think running the ball in a
general sense is a sunk cost, because I don't think
you ever give up on that. I do think and
you know what I promise you for the roundtable tomorrow, Greg,
I'll have some numbers for this because I've got the
whole sheet and I've monitored you know what when they
(13:35):
snap the ball, what the play clock is. You know,
I have that database. And then when it's no huddle,
and so when you get that combination of a no
huddle and b snapping it with fifteen seconds or more,
even sometimes twenty seconds or more. You know, the third
drive of Sunday against the Bills, when they went hurry
(13:57):
up there the long drive they stretch there in the
middle where they went five straight passes. They are five
straight completions all excuse me, ten yards or more, and
in that four of the five were no huddle, you know,
kind of hurry now that that's a little bit of
(14:17):
a gamble because your your defense. If you go no
huddle and you go up tempo and you go three
and out, then that puts obviously a greater burden on
your defense in terms of the rest and what have you.
And so but I think that McDonald is seen, Hey,
there's enough of success when we go tempo that it's
(14:41):
worth the risk, worth the risk, and it's you know,
at least from a standpoint of harmony, I think this
would be a topic where it's good that the head
coach is a defensive guy so that there's less infighting. Me,
do you understand what I'm saying, Greg and Chris Right,
he's gonna yield. If the head coach gives his blessing
(15:03):
and he's coming from the defensive side, then you know
there's not any grousing by the defensive coordinator saying, oh,
you know, the head coach, he's an offensive guy. You know,
he just wants to do it what's best for the offense,
you know, and without any consideration to you know how
it's impacting my defense, Like, you're not gonna get that.
If if if McDonald, if you're watching the game against
(15:25):
the Rams and you see the Seahawks in a high
variety of no huddle up tempo stuff a, you know
that that's McDonald has given his blessing. He's discussed and
McDonald has carefully weighed the impact potentially on the defense,
and he's considered an acceptable risk.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How about screen passes? Are they a sunk cost? And
as a quarterback, I think the obvious is you just
dart that one that need dirt, the one that he
threw to the shirt.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, I assume he's been
coached that since in high school and certainly in college,
and that the professional level that that there's a certain
I want to call random nature. But the timing's hard
with screens particularly. You know, now, when you say screen,
I mean in my dieu, in my lexicon when I'm
taking notes. Obviously, there's wide receiver screens that are primarily
(16:17):
smoke screens, which are to the widest guy, and bubble
screens are to the slot. Okay, that just a generic sense.
There's also tunnel screens where the line, the line is
getting out. And the first two that I mentioned are
wide receivers, you know, so there's there's kind of three
basic varieties of wide receiver screens. There's certainly more, but
those are the general. And then with running backs, you
(16:38):
have slip screen that's in the B gap. You have
swing screens where you have a quick a quick swing
obviously with lineman and or tight ends out in front.
And then you have slow screens. And I think you're
talking about the slow screens, and that was what was
the interception. That's where where you know the running back
(16:59):
he's going he's gonna hold, hold, hold, and then he's
gonna find an area and and you know, different teams
have different landmarks, but you know, generally, you know, let's
say two yards outside the tackle, two yards behind the
line of scrimmage and you have your spot or two
yards out of the outside the ghost of the tight end,
meaning if there's no tight end, if if there was
a tight endyways, you have those landmarks on the slow screen.
(17:22):
And when when you're coach on a slow screen as
a quarterback, if it's covered, you know, if the if
if you look at the tape of all the good
plays by defenses in the NFL on slow screens, invariably
you're gonna find defensive line that says, aha, no you don't.
You know, you didn't fool me here, and then they
run over to the spot right, and so you know
(17:44):
it's a hit or missive whether or not you sell
the opposing defensive line. And if you don't, then you
got to dirt the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And Mike McDonald's said that after the game, But yeah,
that's one you want to throw into the.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Ground, especially Greg, because it's first and ten, you're at
the plus forty five, you've been moving the ball, you're
down fourteen was that third quarter? Right mid third quarter?
And if you score there obviously now seventeen to ten,
you've got momentum. You bring the crowd back in the game,
You give life to the defense. Like that was a
(18:18):
really really critical error.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm gon give you one last parting shot of what
do you what's encouraging this? What can you give Seayawk
fans to hang a hat on and be encouraged about?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
If anything, well, I think the second aar well, what
gives me the encouragement I'm still gonna hold. I think
you've got a lot of intellectual horsepower on both sides
of the ball. And I think that that you've got
a guy in McDonald. Now we didn't even talk about
the defense, but I was the whole build a wall
(18:49):
thing didn't work real well against the Bills, so you
know that was another reason for it. But I think
McDonald's a smart guy. I think he's going to figure
it out. The probability is is good that he'll figure
it out. I think Ryan Grubb is this smart guy.
He certainly has a learning curve with the NFL that
should be steep, right. But I'll tell you one thing,
(19:12):
I'd rather have Ryan Grubb, who, by the way, he
is forty eight years old. He's not a younger, you know,
it's not like he's thirty one.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I'd rather have a smart guy who has a learning
curve and he's gonna be up and running, you know,
every week he's learning, learning, learning. I'd rather have a
smart than you know, a twenty five year veteran that
as I've I've said before. You know, sometimes I've sat
in these meetings and I'm just thinking, quietly, what would
this guy be doing if he wasn't coaching pro football?
(19:40):
Because there's just nothing there and it can't you know,
it can't pull a layer of onion. And and look,
there's some brilliant guys. There's guys. I've sat in the
meeting and go, man, you're a freaking genius, you know,
And I just want to soak up at what everything
they say with like a sponge. So but my point
is there's a disparity in terms of ultimately the ceiling
(20:02):
of a guy. And I think that you've got on
in McDonald and grew Up. I think you've got guys
with high ceilings and they'll figure it out now that
you know they but they've got to They got to
do a better job of acquiring some of this talent.
Like we talked about it, the onset of the segment exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I get the feeling you'd rather have Ryan grew Up
and Shane Waldron as the Seahawks office coordinator.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah. I just think, Look, I think it would be predictable.
You'd say, Okay, in the first month or two, are
there going to be some growing pains as he figures
it out?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, you would predict that because he's new to the NFL.
But again, his ceiling is higher because he's he's just
a smarter guy and and and he will and he's
a grinder, and he'll figure this thing out in all probability. Look,
in probability, nothing's nothing's one hundred percent, nothing zero. So
I'm not you know, you know, I'm not saying I've
(20:55):
bent my pension on it. But I think the signs
are you know, Okay, I got the eight ball. I
just shook the eight ball right, and I'm looking down
and I'm like, signs are pointing up. That's what I read.
Because they've got smart guys on each side of the ball.
That is that unfair? Man, I got blinders? Am I
missing something?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I think that's the cause for optimism. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
We'll do the cause for optimist.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
We'll do pace tomorrow on the Seahawks round table with you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Thank you, sir, Rock and Roll, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Thanks Humelling as he is every Wednesday here on ninety
three point three KJR fmily says that the optimism is
that he's got they got brainpower on offense and defense
to fix this. As Mike McDonald said this week, it's
not the x's and o's, it's about the players executing.
And he's still throttling back. He doesn't even have his
full offense and defense installed yet and we're eight games
under the regular season. We talked about this, Chris, that
(21:42):
they were not going to be fully installed until they
got the foundation down, and the foundation is not set yet.
Four nine, four to five one to tell them. We'll
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Speaker 3 (22:51):
We talked a little bit about Halloween and we had
multiple people text in, Hey, Greg, you should watch Gladiator
for Halloween.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So great, what says you?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I see my wife want to do that?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Oh, there you go. And then you also asked another
good question.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You said, if DK Metcalf would have played on Sunday,
would he have made much of a difference?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And people text in and said, from the two o six, I.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Think DK would have made a little bit of an impact,
but I don't think it makes up for the major
errors they were making on both sides of the football.
This is also from the two five to three. Yes,
he would have made a difference, made it too easy
to defend. Jason Unlockett not sure it would have opened
the run game up more since grub Sure likes to
throw a lot let's see from the two five to three.
(23:37):
If DK is such a foundational player, how much did
the Seahawks pay him next season? Something Greg has mentioned before.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Okay, you're gonna get ae hundred million dollar contract five years,
maybe four years.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Let's say I'm with that.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Ticket price is sent fans selling the tickets. All that
and above from the two o six when Newman drops
beer prices to five dollars, I won't sell my tickets.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I don't know if that will ever happen.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
But two people pointed this out, the three to six
too and the six to oh two both said most
of those season tickets on that side, the east side,
lower one hundred section are corporate owned. Now six oh
two says my company owns twenty three pair on that
side and only two pair elsewhere. Three six sosas most
of those particular season tickets are in fact owned by
investors who have no interest in going to games. And
(24:26):
we talked about that they aren't true fans in the
sense that they haven't been here since the Kingdome and
the Tera days, and so they more have to just sell.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Them for profit.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Tickets too expensive for the quality of product. We even
look awful and wins between beer, food and parking and tickets.
I'm already have four hundred dollars plus and that's from Marcus.
I have the two oh six.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Here's an interesting pit point from two oh six. It's
hard to find a Seahawks fan to buyer season ticket
as faith value lately the way they're're playing Buffalo and
Green Bay fans will pay double.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And why would a fan not sell to someone who's
gonna pay him double. I can't understand the logical that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
From the four two five. Now, I am not saying
the Sucks would have won, but Metcalf changed the whole
game against the Bills. One good catch could change the
whole dynamic and creates adrenaline, motivates other players, and creates momentum.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah. I'm just not sure that's what twenty one points.
But yeah, seven, yeah, I agree, they win the game.
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Speaker 4 (28:02):
Give me the over.
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Highland Home is gonna be rocking at West Point this
week at Chris Commander in Chiefs game. It's a cool scene.
But those who have never been no game at West Point,
go to the parade in the morning. It's a great
place to visit, not as great to live there, But
then you walk up the hill from the parade you
watch the game. They're remodeling the stadium this year and
the whole east side on the reservoir side is under construction,
(29:31):
so have a lot of fewer seats available, but it's
still a really cool scene. My brother must still talk.
He played for the Rutgers. He still talks about going
up to the West Point and playing and what a
cool time he had there.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Air Force at.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Army they alternate home and home each year. The Force
the Army Navy game is always at a neutral site.
A couple of years ago it is at West Point
because of the COVID year and they closed down in
the campuses and they weren't fans in the stamps for
a public in Philadelphia, so that they moved to the
West Point. But otherwise it's not on the campuses of
the Post. It's it's at a neutral site. This year
(30:06):
it's at Landover, Maryland. Just went McIntyre and I will
be there December twelfth and thirteenth for the Army Navy Game,
which gonna be this year.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Greg ninety five percent.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, alright, some people are starting to believe.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Those four percenters. Man, you guys are sick people.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Those twenty four individuals, over five hundred people agree, and
then you got twenty four knucklehead.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
They're like, eh, so far, they don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
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Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, that was something else. Huh, the opposite of what
we saw last Sunday with the Seahawks. It's got a nice.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Did they score eight in the game at all of us?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I think it tied that.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
No, I've moved on to the next game.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It's the next game.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I don't know, uh for I mean natural hat trick
from on tour.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Ye first of his career. He's at at trick.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'm surprised that he's had multiple four point nights, but
never a channeler seams had four assists last I just
they blew Montreal out. I mean they blew them out
of the world. That was fun, fun game. They're a
weird team. They're and I think I'm feeling a lot
like the NHL has a very NFL vibe to it.
(31:32):
There's the elite teams, and then there's a lower middle class,
and then there's the you know, like you know, there's
kind of a class system, and I think Seattle's kind
of in the I think we're a middle class team
in the NFL and kind of a middle class team
right now in the NHL too, you know. I mean
like Carolina is on a different level, Winnipeg's probably on
a different level in a sense in the NHL, And
(31:54):
I mean we've seen different level teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Haven'tly, And they're playing another elite talent wise. Anyway, Toronto tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, well, but Toronto's scuffling, so was Boston. This is it.
This is a road trip. When you looked at it
on paper and said, okay, five games, if you can
go to two and one like they just did in
the homestand that probably be really good home road trip.
I think you could go three and two. See, yeah,
well you get the first one. That's good, and that
was actually, honestly, of all the teams you're playing, they're
the weakest one, right. You need to get that one
(32:22):
and then hopefully they can get going.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I'm not excited. I'm interested to hear Mike McDonald today
about just generally he's got a couple of days to digest.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
This, and the most interesting thing he said to me,
was the sunk costs that it implied he's going to
start dumping things that aren't working and focus more on
that what works, and it's not x's and o's, it's that's,
that's the players, and it's unusual for him.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
And that Okay, let me, let me. I'm curious. That's
a god, we only have three minutes. What do you think? Okay,
the offensive line, we all know that. But if you
were just to say, biggest problem with this football team
is what physicality on a scrimmage? Just being dogs and yeah,
just junk yard dogs. Don't you feel like they miss
(33:08):
a lot of tackles as well? Absolutely, which goes into
what you just said.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I never thought i'd think that with that with this coach,
and I didn't think that would be the case. I
find that strange.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
At a point, it doesn't become coaching because you can
stress and they do stress it, they practice it, and
they don't bring them to ground because the NFL doesn't
have energies. But eventually the players have to do it well.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
And they had more physical practices in training camp this
year than they had Underpeak, much more. I'm just I'm
at a loss.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I'm just at a lot.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I I I think on paper, they're better than we've seen.
I like, I like some of the at lists, and
we all know the offensive line is what it is.
But I like this team better than than they're playing. Yes,
that's what kind of surprises me. The wet Buffalo did. Okay,
I'll take the other one. Here's the next one. I'd ask.
(33:59):
The Geno Smith conversation, I think is going to change
quite a bit over here in the next month or two.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I hated what I.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Saw from him body language wise, and having been in
your seat in the press box for sixteen years, I
don't always i'd have people text me all the time,
oh you see that. No, not necessarily, because I'm watching
the game and I'm seeing stuff that you guys don't see,
like who's in the tent and who's going to locker room.
But I'll tell you, man, the cutaways TV term the
cutaways of Geno Smith the last two of the last
(34:30):
three weeks are really disturbing, Like his body language is.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Awful, disturbing, and that he's not being a leader.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of you know kind of
i'll use the term whining, but you know, just bad
body language. Even in the worst of times his first
two years as a starter here, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
See that he's playing for a contract. I know his
contract doesn't end until after twenty twenty five, but they
have a decision to make on him after this year.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Well, I think the decision gets easier every week. I
just don't like what I see from him. And I
and I'm a Gino fan. I am a Gino fan.
Let me say that first. I think Gino Smith gives
you a better chance to win than a lot of
guys would around the league. But what i've when the
things have been going wrong lately, it has not when
DK Metcalf's coming over and kind of trying to be
(35:18):
your guy that console you and to try to pump
you back up and the voice of reason. And I
love DK two, but that should be the other way around.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Of course, metay it helped Metcalfe was in sweats and wasn't.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
In the right but like he knew, he saw, he
understood what was going on. Gino's got to be better.
Gino's got to be better. There is no heir apparent
behind Geno Smith, I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And this is a.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Brutal draft quarterback wise in college because you sure as
hell don't want Sanders and you start going down the list.
Back ain't the guy, right, I mean it ain't nobody
out there. Got six guys last year, none this year anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
One of them just got benched Anthony Richards and they
may have taken Yeah, what do you have today?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
They're a red flag with that guy all the way around. Uh,
we're gonna we'll check in with I think boy mafiy
is gonna stop. Oh okay, so we'll talk about what
we just discussed with boy mafe. Uh, we'll do that
coming up r A off the top of the show.
We'll hear from Steve Polozola Pro Football Focus at one
o'clock today, and then we'll probably jam through some of
the stuff that Mike McDonald says it too. Here from
the Coach and Factor Fixed Active Fiction two thirty five
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would be next Marty one to know this week, all right,
touching up to Monday night game. You know, Oh, I chase,
I chase every Monday, I chase you go after army.
I chase.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
A couple of things only clean up from the text
line quick note from the three to six oh quick
note fromn Armed Navy game. Local boy Dylan Carson from
Mary's will Pilchick High School. It's the starting running back
for Air Force went healthy. He was their feature back
going into the season, but was hampered by injury. Kid
put up huge numbers for MP High School. Thank you
for that. I had to laugh at this four five.
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With him twelve to three here from renting Seahawks headquarters,
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If you eat, sleep, and breathe true crime, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT is serving up your nightly fix. Five nights a week, KT STUDIOS & iHEART RADIO invite listeners to pull up a seat for an unfiltered look at the biggest cases making headlines, celebrity scandals, and the trials everyone is watching. With a mix of expert analysis, hot takes, and listener call-ins, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT goes beyond the headlines to uncover the twists, turns, and unanswered questions that keep us all obsessed—because, at TRUE CRIME TONIGHT, there’s a seat for everyone. Whether breaking down crime scene forensics, scrutinizing serial killers, or debating the most binge-worthy true crime docs, True Crime Tonight is the fresh, fast-paced, and slightly addictive home for true crime lovers.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com