November 21, 2024 • 34 mins
With the power out at The Virginia Mason Athletic Center, Gregg Bell is back in studio w/ Christopher Kidd. The duo start w/ headlines across the sports world, then play audio from Mike Macdonald talking about the importance of this weeks matchup against the Arizona Cardinals. We also play audio from Abe Lucas after his 1st game back, and JSN talking about Marvin Harrison Jr, plus more. We also play audio from Mike Sando on w/ Chuck and Buck discussing his thoughts on if Earl is a Hall of Famer.
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My predecessor on the Seahawks beat at the News Studium,
Mike Sando, was on with Chuck and Buck about twenty
minutes ago. He was talking about Earl Thomas's chances to
be a first ballot Hall of Famer. What's it? Why
does Mike Sando's opinion matter on this? Well, he's one
of the fifty members of the Pro Football Hall of
Fame Selection Committee. He and his forty nine others on
the committee will decide whether Earl Thomas is in the
(01:52):
Class of twenty twenty five and decide who is in
the Class of twenty twenty five for Kenton next summer.
You'll hear from him in a few minutes of ten thirty.
You're going to here from Seahawks wide receiver Jackson Smith
and Jigbie's coming off consecutive one hundred yard receiving games.
We'll talk out new coach Mike McDonald's approach with his
players and publicly to big division games like last week
against the forty nine ers this week against the Cardinals,
(02:14):
exactly the opposite of how Pete Carroll did it the
previous fifteen years. Eleven o'clock Back by popular demand, we're
gonna talk to John Manley, my colleague at the News Tribune.
He's coming back for the second Thursday in a row
for a weekly neg We're gonna make it a weekly
look at the state high school football playoffs. He's really
intriguing matchups in Class four A, Class three A. We'll
(02:36):
talk two A one. John was on it all weekend
last weekend, and we'll be on it all this weekend
for the News Tribune. John's going to join us tux
state high school football Payoffs at eleven o'clock eleven thirty
four nine four five one to tell him we'll do
text sign when it's game time. It's Tully time. Your
chance to be a part of the show. Encourage you
to text in and we'll read you back at eleven
thirty and then Factor fiction is at eleven thirty five.
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Dandal, welcome back, Daniel Sprung.
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Steven said, left side and door.
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He was side Cord, catch it out down the lights alright,
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Empty Donny Gordon poked that puck outside of six on
five empty net situation with three minutes left, Nashill went
the empty net, pulled a goaltender with three minutes left,
down two nothing, and Gord made it threes that nothing.
Brandon Montour his tap in back post twenty seconds into
(04:23):
the third period that made it two nothing. That was
Remember that night he in Montreal to start the last
road trip, he had three goals and an assist. Well,
he'd only had in the eight games after that, just
to assist total two points in eight games until last
night when Brandon Montur scored Joey Decord twenty four saves
for his fourth career shutout. Why only twenty four saves
(04:44):
because the Kraken blocked twenty six shots the Predators shot
at fifty times at the net and it didn't even
reach the net. Fifty different times it didn't reach the net,
either blocked or missed the net. That is what I
bet Dan Bowsman was most happy about when he watched
the game table last night. Twenty six block shots cracking
will win a lot of games doing that. They had
(05:04):
entered the homestand losing seven of their previous eight, then
on a homestand went five and one, lost only to
the red hot New York Rangers on Sunday, So now
they're above five hundred for the season, ten wins, nine
losses in an overtime tie. The Cracking Next place Saturday
afternoon in Los Angeles, one PM on your home of
the crack in here in ninety three point three KJFM.
On Saturday, the Seahawks had four veterans getting the day
(05:27):
off of practice yesterday. The only new injury issue was
defensive end Leonard Williams missing practice with a foot injury.
Tyler Lockett among those who've got veteran rest days. The
best injury news for Seattle yesterday was at eight. Lucas
was full go, a full participant in four days before
the Seahawks host the first place Cardinals for the NFC
West lead. Lucas played forty two of sixty snaps last
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weekend in the winner of the forty nine Ers, his
first game in eleven a months, coming off that knee
surgery and long rehab. I can tell you the last
probably five or six plays, I was breathing experienced very heavy.
I mean have been almost two year since I've played right. So,
but Gino took off.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
It and then I knew he was going to score.
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I was like, thank you Jesus turned and walked towards
the sideways. I me to go hit the Boston Thank you, Jesus.
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Speaker 4 (06:14):
Lucas from our Archbishop Murphy High School star in Mill
Creek talking. And I was in the locker room in
Santa Clara on Sunday after his first game since last
December thirty one, so great news for the Seahawks, and
said he's full going Wednesday. The question was, all right,
he played most of the game, first game in eleven months.
How would he knee respond to that? Apparently really well,
(06:35):
not even limited full go yesterday. College football, you probably
know by now the Washingon Huskies are off this week
on there by they play at number one Oregon next week.
Three unbeaten teams in college football. It's still true. Someone
still say it. Number one Oregon, Indiana number five and
Army ranked eighteenth this week in the fifth ranked Indiana's
at number two Ohio State in a game that a
(06:56):
likely decide who plays Oregon in the Big twelve Big
Ten title game and eighteenth Drank Army plays six Drank
Notre Dame Saturday at Yankee Stadium. Terrek Scrubel, Seattle, You
and the Troy Taggers won the American League Cy Young
Award in a unanimous vote. He got all thirty first
place votes as he should have. Eighteen and four two
three ninety RA, two hundred and twenty eight strikeouts, walk hits,
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an innings pitch point nine to two. Yeah, he should
have won it. Chris Sale National League So Young with
his dominicant comeback year at age thirty five from Tommy
Johnson surgery. Schoobl also had Tommy john surgery early in
his career. College basketball. Last night, Connecticut women's coach Gino
Ariama became the all time wins leader in NCAA basketball history.
(07:39):
Yukon beat Farley Dickinson eighty five forty one. Arima broke
a tie he had held since Friday with the legendary
Stanford coach Tara van Derveer, who retired in April. Ariam's
one thousand, two hundred and seventeen wins of the most
in NCAA history men or women for any division. Last
night's win was Ariama's three hundred and twenty ninth victory
of at least forty points. Check this out. Chris Gino
(08:02):
Ariama has had more than twice as many forty point
wins as he has career losses of any score. He's
blown teams out twice as much as he's lost. Blown
teams out by forty his teams have twice as much
as he've even lost the game. All right, let's talk
about old Thomas Hall of Fame candidsey again and I
(08:24):
bring it up yesterday. Of course, he was selected among
the original nominee list of one hundred and sixty seven
and included Cam Chancellor and Marshawn Lynch and Thomas Thomas
cut for he made the cut from one sixty seven
down to twenty five semi finalist for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five. Mike Sando,
(08:45):
my predecessor in the Seahawks beat at the News Tribune,
is one of the fifty members of the Pro Football
Hall of Fame selection Committee. He's going to determine with
his forty nine other colleagues, the class of twenty twenty five.
He Mike Sando was on with Chuck and Buck about
a half hour ago here on JR. Talking about Thomas's
chances to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, and
Mike talked about his belief Cam Chancellor should also be
(09:08):
a semi finalist.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah, I think it's really strong. You know, it was
interesting because I'm one of the voters, so I was
voting down to the twenty five, and I think on
my twenty five, I think I had Marshawn and Cam
Chancellor Andrel Thomas on that. I think they're all in
the conversation, certainly among the twenty five. So Earle, I
don't think. I don't think he's hurt. He hurt himself
(09:30):
his candidacy necessarily by the way that it ended too much.
I mean, I think he was a dominant force for
such a long time. Do people really remember the one
off year with Baltimore and some of that, you know,
stuff around him that was kind of swirling. I don't
think that should hurt his case at all. I think
he was It's an all time great defense. You're a
unique piece on that defense. The defense was built kind
(09:52):
of from the back forward the legion of Booms, so
you're part of an iconic secondary. I think it becomes
interesting of like, you know, how many of those guys
get in right, But I think that I think Sherman,
Richard Sherman's going in. I'd say he has he's gonna
make it. I think he has some of that public
acclaim and notoriety from his media career that probably helps him.
(10:13):
Earl has the opposite of that. But I think there's
a great case to be made for him, and I
think I think he's definitely worthy. So if he makes
it to the next cut, and I'd be the one
presenting his case, I'd be happy to do so.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Yeah, here's what I think is going to Sherm first ballot.
Thomas for sure in, but might take two or three,
and then Cam will get in, but probably like on
some Veterans committee down the line.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Interesting.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yeah, yeah, there's a case. I think Cam tilted the
field as much as any player that I can remember
in a long time, just one player whose presence lurked
over everything, who has felt. I think Cam Chancer is
one of the most felt players that there's been.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That's an interesting way to put it. That's Mike Sando,
formerly one of my predecessors at the News Tribute on
the Seahawks beating out the Athletic, a frequent contributor here
to the station. That's an interesting way to put it
that Cam Chancellor is one of the most felt players. Yeah,
he was. Earl Thomas allowed Cam Chancellor to play the
way he did in the box, primarily headhunting and taking
(11:18):
guys heads and teeth out because Earl Thomas was able
to cover the entire breadth of the field. You know,
they say sideline to sideline defensive backs of safeties, and
you think maybe numbers to numbers, Earl Thomas really was
one side boundary all the way to the other side.
Fifty three and a third is like Russell Wilson used
to always talk about. That was Earl Thomas and that
(11:41):
in turn allowed him to play the cover three single
high safety and allowed Cam Chancellor to be in the
box and do what he did as the hammer. You
couldn't have had the hammer as much to the line
of scrimmage if Earl Thomas wasn't doing what he did
in the back. And it's interesting to hear Mike Sander
also talk about the effects of the lake career and
after career of Earl Thomas on his candidacy, and he
(12:03):
Mike Mike Santa Woudo says he doesn't think it's that
big a deal that that doesn't think that's going to
factor in a whole lot, then you get into again
his forty nine colleagues determining is Earl Thomas a first
ballot Hall of Famer. They do reserve a certain status
for that.
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with Hall of Fame worthy? Yes? Are you first ballot?
Hall of Fame worthy is another conversation, and that's one
Mike Sando and his forty nine others on the selection
committee will be discussing over the next month. They will determine,
they will announce in December. Usually it's late December, who
(15:44):
the fifteen finalists are out of the twenty five semi finalists.
And then how it works is of those fifteen finalists,
all of those names get discussed the committee. The selection
committee meets at the super Bowl the week of the
Super Bowl. They spend long days I'm talking eighteen sixteen
hour days in conference rooms in the Super Bowl city
(16:07):
discussing and debating the candidacy. And it's usually a writer
from the home area or maybe even one that was
on the beat when that candidate play, that presents the case.
Eli Manning, Gary Myers, New York, a longtime New York
media and sports writer, is going to be presenting his case,
for instance, So Mike Sando, if it gets to that
(16:30):
point that Earl Thomas is a finalist, Mike Sando will
be the one presenting to the rest of the Selection Committee,
Thomas's candidacy and his reasons for inclusion. So the process
is it used to be a lot less transparent than
it is now, but they do keep the negotiation secret.
Then they announce it on Saturday. Who the final who
(16:53):
the ones who have made the Hall of Fame class.
All the finalists will be at the super Bowl. The
fifteen finalists are at the Super Bowl week and they
are the ones who are sitting in their hotel rooms
awaiting the call. You've seen the videos the Pro Football
Hall of Fame produces where the chairman of the Committee
or the chairman of the Hall of Fame knocks on
the hotel doors of those who have won and been selected.
(17:18):
So it is quite a grand process, and Earl Thomas
is in the semifinals of that process. Four nine, four
to five one. We talked about that, your reaction to
Mike sandos comments that he doesn't think Earl Thomas's end
of career and post career has any effect on his candidacy,
and also your thoughts of Mike Sando's comments that Cam
(17:39):
Chancellor was the most felt player he ever covered and therefore,
in Mike's mind, deserves to be at least a semi
finalist in this year's class four nine four five. I
want to tell them we'll do text line. We'll read
back your text at eleven thirty. It's interesting, Chris to
think about Cam Chancellor in that light, and also Mike's
(17:59):
comment of how many of the Legion of Boom will
get in, And we talked about this yesterday. Had they
won that second Super Bowl, I think a lot of
these candidacies would be more of a slam dunk than
maybe they already are. Richard Sherman may be more Hall
of Fame more than any of them, but because he
played through the twenty twenty one season, he won't be
eligible for Hall of Fame consideration for the first time
(18:21):
until twenty twenty six. The rule is five years after
your last NFL game. People forget that. Remember Richard Sherman
came back and played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for
what four or five games in twenty twenty one, so
his eligibility won't begin until twenty twenty six. I could
see him getting in the first ballot Hall of Fame.
He's remained visible in the media Thursday Night Football package.
(18:44):
He has some podcast it's very popular, has remained in
the public eye. I could see him potentially being a
first ballot Hall of Fame or would you without question?
Sharm was just he transcended. He shaid down a side
of the field. When you do that, you put yourself
in a different class. You put yourself with Rivis Island,
(19:06):
Dion Sanders. That's the type of level you're putting yourself
in when you do that. And he did that for
a few years. But see what the hell he was
on the cover of Madden. That tells you just how
big he for real, he was a big popular guy.
You're the Generation X. That's the Generation X way of
I don't even know if I am generation I don't know.
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(19:27):
I don't even know anymore? Oh great, doesn't even that's
the modern day way of I guess judging someone by
they are the cover of madd And you're right, he was.
And I think when you write the history of the
NFL for the last twenty five years, Richard Sherman is
in there. I do agree with that.
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to tell him what your text line if you agree
with that, and or Richard Sherman as the first ballot
Hall of Famer that wouldn't happen until twenty twenty six.
It is interesting discussion, for sure, and it is now
that time, after decade, after the Super Bowl legion of
booms heyday, where we're starting to now consider this with
(20:14):
Earl Thomas as semifinalist for the Hall of Fame, I'm
next Jackson Smith and Jagbaer consecutive to one hundred yard
receiving game for the Seahawks. He'll talk about being a
zone defense buster. He'll talk about his former Ohio State
teammate Marvin Harrison, who will be opposite it this weekend
when the Cardinals come to town. That's next on ninety
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Hi, welcome back. Thank you for listening to ninety three
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for a Thursday. I was supposed to be at Seahawks
headquarters today heading into talking to Gino Smith at noon.
But the power is still mostly out from the bomb
cyclone Tuesday night. I understand a lot of you listening
and in western Washington still without power. Hopefully you get that
(21:17):
back soon. They're on generators and parts of the building
are lit. At Seahawk Headquarters, they were using flood lights
yesterday and guys were using their cameras flashlights to look
into their lockers to get ready for practice. It was
a different kind of scene and hadn't gone through that
and my twenty five years covering the NFL. Jackson Smith
and Jigmit talked yesterday. He's got two consecutive one hundred
(21:40):
yard receiving games. Two games ago he had his career
day have one hundred eighty yards against the Rams, and
then he had three big catches on that final drive
last weekend in Santa Clara.
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Virginia against zone coverage and DK Metcalf talked yesterday before
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Speaker 6 (25:36):
Written first got to Ohio State really and you know
while he was a freshman, I was a sophomore. My
sophomore year in Ada, Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, which party all taken that? OLLI Ohio States years
in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Oh much pride, much pride, you know for the ones
that you know are still there at Ohio State looking
at looking at us or committed. You know, we take
much pride in that and to to living up to
the standard that you know those guys before us have,
you know created c J.
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Yeah, I think I think I heard that.
Speaker 15 (26:17):
Yeah that that means a lot though, you know CJ.
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He's a great player, t k met guy was telling
us that you find the right hole, you know where
the holes are in zone coverage. Where did that? Did
you see a lot of it at Ohio State or
where did you knowledge of that?
Speaker 11 (26:31):
Guy?
Speaker 15 (26:31):
Yeah, I would say I've seen I've seen a lot
of that in Ohio State and a lot of stuff
like basketball, and you know, just repetition in that practice,
just finding the zone.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
And sitting down.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
What's interesting about the zone discussion is that at the
end of games or when teams go no huddle, the
default tends to be for defenses to get into some
kind of zone coverage, whether it's because they're blitzing or
even when they d eight it's with the game on
the line. Most defensive play callers are afraid to go
man to man for obvious reasons. You get beat one
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time man a man, the game's over, so you tend
to be a little more conservative in your coverage with
numbers down the field, back down the field, and zones
rather than man responsibilities. And that's where Smith and Jigbook
was really effective, both against the Rams the week before
and then the last drive against San Francisco. The master
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at that for years, of course, has been Tyler Lockett.
Mike McDonald made the point yesterday that when it has
made Smith and Jigba so good this season is that
he can He's a great enough route runner, as you
heard a reference that in Hugh Mellins talked about so
many times, as C. J. Stroud said that Jackson Smith
and Jigger was the best route runner he's ever thrown too.
But because he's such a good route runner, he also
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beats man coverage and therefore doesn't matter whether you're in
man or zone. The Seahawks feel confident in sending him
out there either way. The one aspect that takes the
long route running in the NFL, and my twenty years
of covering it talking to guys that do it, is
the improvisational when the play breaks down, extending plays route running.
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Tyler Lockett is exquisite at that. DK Metcalf has gotten
better at that, and he talks about Lockett quite a bit,
tutoring about that that's hard to get mastered in just
a year and a half. It happens at the college level,
but not as challenging as in the NFL. The pass
rusher to get on quarterbacks more quickly, by and large,
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and the defensive backs are better to react to that,
by and large than they are in college football. So
Psmith and Jacob, if there's a last part of his
game that you got to get to Kriz, it's probably
that the improv breaking off routes. But if you're in
the middle of your second season and you have a
coach who believes that you can do anything against man
or zone coverage, you're going to get featured even more
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each week. And that's what we've been seeing here the
last couple of weeks from him.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Absolutely, and I believe actually he did do a little
improv against the Niner. I believe it was the two
minute war right before the two minute warning. They send
him in motion and he is supposed to do an
inside route, but he falls and Gino has a little
bit of protection. Gino is able to find him. He
darts back to the out and he finds him. Now,
it wasn't improv because oh hey, Gino's in trouble. Was
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improv because I screwed up and fell. He's looking for
someone to throw the football too, and he finds himself open,
and that's just gonna build his game.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
But I think the second warner almost brought that pass.
I remember that, oh yeah when Yeah, that was just
and Smith threw a great pass there.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
How good Geno is right and making making a tough throw,
making it look easy and finding Jayson in traffic, and
then also to Jaysen with how they're using him.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
He has found a lot of his damage being done
in the slot. Yep.
Speaker 12 (29:47):
So the Seahawks have found their slot guy, something that
they've wanted or needed for the past few seasons, just
you know, having ty Lockett. He's kind of the down
the field, big play receiver, so is DK, and now
they have a mesh with we have someone that can
really destroy teams in the slot. What do you have
ten catches for one hundred and ten yards yep. So
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he had a really good performance and he did a
lot of his damage from what the slot. And he
continues to do that, it's going to make it that
much harder for defenses to slow down DK. Hell ty
Lockett too in that conversation, because you can't just leave
him open as well. So having JSN take the next
stride and becoming a target just being in the offense
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as much as he is and being a quote unquote
dominant force that's just going to make teams defense is
that much harder to try to key in on him,
and hopefully the run game cauld get going, because wow,
this offense could really be something.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, he'd help his offensive line is if run game
could get going. The other thing Smith and Jigba has
is a play caller who is willing to move him
around it and he's not just in the slot. DK
Metcalf at times has been in the slot. And one
of the signatures of Ryan Grubb's play calling and play
designs when they get to throw is how varied he
uses his wide receivers. DK Metcalf was in the short
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right fight. There was nobody outside him, so it wasn't
a true slot, but he was basically a slot right
receiver at one point in the second half, and he
actually chip blocked Nick Bosa. I had my binoculars on it.
I couldn't believe what I was watching. I cannot remember
Tyger seeing dk Metcalf chip on a premier edge rusher
in the six years I've been watching him. But he
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came down. It would have been a crack. It would
have been a crack crackback block. Had he been a
sweep to the outside, but it was just a drop
back pass, but Metcalf came down onto Bosa and chipped him,
and then Bosa went on to try to pass rush
against Abe Lucas and that's and then Metcalf continued on
on his route. But that's another example of how different
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ways Ryan Grubb will use his wide receivers if they
get the time at the offensive line to do everything
Grub is designing to do. That is another way that
Abe Lucas's return can really help on the edge. Now,
Charles Cross still had problems against San Francisco. I don't
even know what his PFF grade was, and everyone keeps
yelling at me about buds PFF grade. I can just
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tell you that the guy was on skates for most
of the first half. He was moving backwards into the quarterback.
And whether that's graded as a loss or not, I
can tell you. Gino Smith doesn't appreciate to have his
guy and the other team's guy both in his grill
as he's trying to throw the ball, and that happened
time and again to Cross, especially in the first half.
There were a couple plays I noticed in the first
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half that Nick Bosa did the same thing to Abe Lucas,
and let's be frank. Once Nick Bosa went out of
the game middle of the third quarter, that changed everything.
And all of a sudden, Charles Cross and Abe Lucas
weren't getting pushed back, and Leonard Floyd at one point
on the final drive, he got so tired of rush
(32:55):
pass rushing against Abe Lucas he just stopped. It was
the play across midfield. It was actually the past. It
was the sixteen yard scramble that Smith had before the
winning touchdown, scrambled two plays before the sixteen yard scramble
that got him into the red zone with thirty seconds left.
If you watch that play, Kenneth Walker chipped on Leonard Floyd.
(33:18):
Floyd was the only premier pass rusher left on the
field after Nick Bosa got hurt. For San Francisco, Grub
had Kenneth Walker chip on Leonard Floyd and then continue
out into the pattern.
Speaker 16 (33:31):
And Floyd, after he got chipped, just stood there. He
actually walked a cup, walked a couple steps outside toward
the sidelines, and Abe Lucas was just standing there waiting
for Leonard Floyd to pass rush and he wouldn't do it.
He just stood there, and because he had gone wide,
it was a freeway wide running lane for Gino Smith.
And when he saw Leonard Floyd just standing there not
(33:52):
doing anything, that's when Smith took off for the sixteen
yard scramble. He had no intentions, it looked like to
run there until he saw Leonard Floyd just stop up
and so as exhausted as you heard on the clip,
Abe Lucas describing he wasn't the last drive. Leonard Floyd
was even more tired or just tired of but pass
rushing against Abe Lucas than Lucas was.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Nobody was getting tired of pass rushing against Mike Durrell,
Stone Forsyth and George Fant the first ten games of
the season, I can tell you that. So that's the
difference right there, to have Abe Lucas back at right
tackling again. If you missed the top of the show,
Abe Lucas was a full practice participant yesterday. That's a
great sign for the Seahawks that he can stack two
consecutive weeks and play again Sunday against Arizona. I asked
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Mike Vindaald yesterday, they're going to have a pitch count
on him again. Lucas was forty two out of sixty
snaps in the San Francisco game, and McDonald says too
early in the week to know whether they are going
to have to limit him or not and spell him
like they did in San Francisco four nine, four to
five one, and tell him we'll do text line what
you thought of Abe Lucas's return and how big he
can be? Is he a savior? I wrote for the
(34:57):
News Tribune at the Newstribune dot com this morning. You
can read that story about is this a savior? The
new right tackle, the starting old new old right tackle
being back could be the savior for the offensive line
you could read at the News Tribune and the News
Tribune dot com coming up next. For fifteen years, Pete
(35:18):
Carroll had one speech about one game from another, whether
it's they're playing undefeated New England, whether they were playing
first place San Francisco, it was all the same. Mike
McDonald's exactly the opposite, and yesterday he showed that again.
We'll talk about that next eleven o'clock. John Manley's going
to talk about the State High School Football Championships second
round quarterfinals this week, starting tomorrow night. John Manley the
(35:40):
News Tribune and joined us at eleven eleven thirty five
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the in living color section of our show again. Was
(36:02):
he old enough to remember that show? The music was
pretty much DISI like that Rosie Perez choreographing Jennifer Lopez dancing.
Speaker 12 (36:10):
Did you know that she was on the call for
the boxing match? I heard that pretty pretty interesting because
I know she loves boxing.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Did you click on to go to watch that?
Speaker 12 (36:17):
I heard it was just a complete It was the
waste of my time. He didn't pay for it because
you already have a Netflix, so thank goodness. But moving along,
I know we have some audio we can get to here.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah. I heard a lot of complaints about the and
then the fight itself was nothing tood. It wasn't well,
what do you expect to fifty five year old.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
I'm not gonna lie. When he was training, he looked
like he's gonna knock the dudead. But training Nate Robertson
looked good training and all my friends thought Nate would
win the fight, which is insane. But we're not gonna
get into that.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Greg. Let's let's talk to Mike McDonald and what his
what he ask planned, and yeah, what you remember if
you a Seahawk fan for one year, for the last
fifteen years, you remember Pete care. Every week's a championship opportunity.
This week's the big game because it's the next one.
All of that, and players were ingrained and saying that
it's completely the opposite. Now last weekend, after the Seahawks
(37:08):
beat the forty nine, or Gino Smith said, quote, we
knew what was at stake, Jackson Smith and Jigbas said
he treated it like a playoff game. This was in November.
This week yesterday, as the Seahawks prepared to play first
place Arizona while one game behind the Cardinals. This is
what Mike McDonald said yesterday about Sunday's game.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
And it's incredibly important. Started ranking things about what we're
trying to achieve here, and that's at or near the
top of the list. So I know, we you know,
we're on a slide here at home, and we're trying
to do a couple of things, you know, to make
it come to life. I mean, we're treating this like
a home playoff game for us. I mean, we need
the twelves rocking. And you're right, that's the vision, that's
what we're trying to create. So let's get it started
this Sunday.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
I mean, Pete Carroll didn't call home actual real life
home playoff games, home playoff games.
Speaker 12 (37:51):
Well, the Seahawks are one and three at home, so
they got to get a roll. Well, no, they lost
four straight to home.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
They this is only the second time since the building
opened that they've watched four straighted home home, and the
other time was two thousand and eight Mike Holmgren's final
season when they went four and twelve. That's the only
other time they've lost four in a row at home.
That itself is a problem. You know what else is
a problem. We've talked about this at the Buffalo game.
(38:15):
All the visiting fans that populate the one hundred level
behind the visiting team bench on the east sideline.
Speaker 12 (38:20):
Let's see if Azy does the same. You wouldn't think, right,
because the Arizona there, everyone's a little brother. They're they're
not there yet. At almost everyone from Arizona's from somewhere
else anyway. But yeah, eventually the Cardinals have not drawn on.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
The road in Seattle. There's not been this influx of
Cardinal red behind Arizona's Sea. Yeah, indeed, that would be
the sellout of the ultimate sellouts, if you're selling out
the Cardinals fans from coming up from Phoenix or.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
Where have you.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
But that has also been a problem. We've talked about this.
There is no doubt that there are season ticket holders
for the Seahawks that have profited handsomely, and we did
a couple show segments on that, and people in the
text line wrote in about how they were making almost
all of their money back for an entire season ticket,
which is twenty five hundred dollars. Now, they were making
that back in selling one or two games. You can't
(39:14):
blame them if the team's going to lose four in
a row at home. So that was the start of
that audio from Mike McDonald's and that is a huge
priority for them, is to get the home field advantage
back in Seattle's favor. The theory, of course, is that
if the Seahawks start winning home games, fans won't sell
their tickets to the visiting team at a high profit
because they'd rather go see the Seahawks win. But you
(39:35):
can make a pretty compelling case to why people are
selling their tickets at two four, three, five hundred dollars
six hundreds of pop rather than sit in the rain
for three and a half hours and watch the Seahawks lose.
So that is what Mike McDonald's talking about when he
says that's a huge priority for us. But yeah, you
would never even hear for playoff games. Pete Carroll saying
we're treating us like a playoff game. Mike McDonald I
(39:57):
went around the locker room yesterday talking to some guys saying,
is this just it is different? And they say, yeah,
it's different, But is this all what you're thinking anyway?
And DK meck I said, wow, there's a couple of ways.
It's goinna cat and Charles Cross told me, yeah, the
messaging is different, but the stame's the same. We got
to treat every game big because the NFL there's fewer games.
That is another difference between the NFL and the other sports.
(40:18):
Of course, Baseball one hundred and sixty two games, NBA, NHL,
eighty eighty two games. One game isn't going to make
your season. We just saw last weekend with the Seahawks
in Santa Clara. One game can absolutely flip your season.
And this game can put the Seahawks in first place
when they were in last place last week. That's how
quickly that things can change in the NFL. So yeah,
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it really would benefit the Seahawks to get something of
a home field advantage back. But yeah, I will be
very surprised if I see a lot of red and
behind the Cardinals bench on Sunday four nine, four five
to tell them we're do text line. Your thoughts on
the home field advantage are lack thereof. If you're a
season ticket holder for the Seahawks, if that is part
of the reason why you've been selling your tickets for profit, yeah,
(41:03):
more power to you. They're going to charge you twenty
five hundred dollars and then lose. Yeah, so be it.
I get that part of it. Eleven o'clock. Coming up next,
John Manley, We're going to talk high school football playoffs.
There were a couple upsets, especially in the higher divisions
last week in the first round. Well, this is the
quarterfinal round, John's going to come back from the News
Tribune and talk to us about the state high school
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My predecessor on the Seahawks beat at the News Studium,
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minutes ago. He was talking about Earl Thomas's chances to
be a first ballot Hall of Famer. What's it? Why
does Mike Sando's opinion matter on this? Well, he's one
of the fifty members of the Pro Football Hall of
Fame Selection Committee. He and his forty nine others on
the committee will decide whether Earl Thomas is in the
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Class of twenty twenty five and decide who is in
the Class of twenty twenty five for Kenton next summer.
You'll hear from him in a few minutes of ten thirty.
You're going to here from Seahawks wide receiver Jackson Smith
and Jigbie's coming off consecutive one hundred yard receiving games.
We'll talk out new coach Mike McDonald's approach with his
players and publicly to big division games like last week
against the forty nine ers this week against the Cardinals,
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He's coming back for the second Thursday in a row
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for his fourth career shutout. Why only twenty four saves
(04:44):
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at fifty times at the net and it didn't even
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will win a lot of games doing that. They had
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entered the homestand losing seven of their previous eight, then
on a homestand went five and one, lost only to
the red hot New York Rangers on Sunday, So now
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On Saturday, the Seahawks had four veterans getting the day
(05:27):
off of practice yesterday. The only new injury issue was
defensive end Leonard Williams missing practice with a foot injury.
Tyler Lockett among those who've got veteran rest days. The
best injury news for Seattle yesterday was at eight. Lucas
was full go, a full participant in four days before
the Seahawks host the first place Cardinals for the NFC
West lead. Lucas played forty two of sixty snaps last
(05:48):
weekend in the winner of the forty nine Ers, his
first game in eleven a months, coming off that knee
surgery and long rehab. I can tell you the last
probably five or six plays, I was breathing experienced very heavy.
I mean have been almost two year since I've played right. So,
but Gino took off.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
It and then I knew he was going to score.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I was like, thank you Jesus turned and walked towards
the sideways. I me to go hit the Boston Thank you, Jesus.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
A B.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Lucas from our Archbishop Murphy High School star in Mill
Creek talking. And I was in the locker room in
Santa Clara on Sunday after his first game since last
December thirty one, so great news for the Seahawks, and
said he's full going Wednesday. The question was, all right,
he played most of the game, first game in eleven months.
How would he knee respond to that? Apparently really well,
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not even limited full go yesterday. College football, you probably
know by now the Washingon Huskies are off this week
on there by they play at number one Oregon next week.
Three unbeaten teams in college football. It's still true. Someone
still say it. Number one Oregon, Indiana number five and
Army ranked eighteenth this week in the fifth ranked Indiana's
at number two Ohio State in a game that a
(06:56):
likely decide who plays Oregon in the Big twelve Big
Ten title game and eighteenth Drank Army plays six Drank
Notre Dame Saturday at Yankee Stadium. Terrek Scrubel, Seattle, You
and the Troy Taggers won the American League Cy Young
Award in a unanimous vote. He got all thirty first
place votes as he should have. Eighteen and four two
three ninety RA, two hundred and twenty eight strikeouts, walk hits,
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an innings pitch point nine to two. Yeah, he should
have won it. Chris Sale National League So Young with
his dominicant comeback year at age thirty five from Tommy
Johnson surgery. Schoobl also had Tommy john surgery early in
his career. College basketball. Last night, Connecticut women's coach Gino
Ariama became the all time wins leader in NCAA basketball history.
(07:39):
Yukon beat Farley Dickinson eighty five forty one. Arima broke
a tie he had held since Friday with the legendary
Stanford coach Tara van Derveer, who retired in April. Ariam's
one thousand, two hundred and seventeen wins of the most
in NCAA history men or women for any division. Last
night's win was Ariama's three hundred and twenty ninth victory
of at least forty points. Check this out. Chris Gino
(08:02):
Ariama has had more than twice as many forty point
wins as he has career losses of any score. He's
blown teams out twice as much as he's lost. Blown
teams out by forty his teams have twice as much
as he've even lost the game. All right, let's talk
about old Thomas Hall of Fame candidsey again and I
(08:24):
bring it up yesterday. Of course, he was selected among
the original nominee list of one hundred and sixty seven
and included Cam Chancellor and Marshawn Lynch and Thomas Thomas
cut for he made the cut from one sixty seven
down to twenty five semi finalist for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five. Mike Sando,
(08:45):
my predecessor in the Seahawks beat at the News Tribune,
is one of the fifty members of the Pro Football
Hall of Fame selection Committee. He's going to determine with
his forty nine other colleagues, the class of twenty twenty five.
He Mike Sando was on with Chuck and Buck about
a half hour ago here on JR. Talking about Thomas's
chances to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, and
Mike talked about his belief Cam Chancellor should also be
(09:08):
a semi finalist.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah, I think it's really strong. You know, it was
interesting because I'm one of the voters, so I was
voting down to the twenty five, and I think on
my twenty five, I think I had Marshawn and Cam
Chancellor Andrel Thomas on that. I think they're all in
the conversation, certainly among the twenty five. So Earle, I
don't think. I don't think he's hurt. He hurt himself
(09:30):
his candidacy necessarily by the way that it ended too much.
I mean, I think he was a dominant force for
such a long time. Do people really remember the one
off year with Baltimore and some of that, you know,
stuff around him that was kind of swirling. I don't
think that should hurt his case at all. I think
he was It's an all time great defense. You're a
unique piece on that defense. The defense was built kind
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of from the back forward the legion of Booms, so
you're part of an iconic secondary. I think it becomes
interesting of like, you know, how many of those guys
get in right, But I think that I think Sherman,
Richard Sherman's going in. I'd say he has he's gonna
make it. I think he has some of that public
acclaim and notoriety from his media career that probably helps him.
(10:13):
Earl has the opposite of that. But I think there's
a great case to be made for him, and I
think I think he's definitely worthy. So if he makes
it to the next cut, and I'd be the one
presenting his case, I'd be happy to do so.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Yeah, here's what I think is going to Sherm first ballot.
Thomas for sure in, but might take two or three,
and then Cam will get in, but probably like on
some Veterans committee down the line.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Interesting.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yeah, yeah, there's a case. I think Cam tilted the
field as much as any player that I can remember
in a long time, just one player whose presence lurked
over everything, who has felt. I think Cam Chancer is
one of the most felt players that there's been.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That's an interesting way to put it. That's Mike Sando,
formerly one of my predecessors at the News Tribute on
the Seahawks beating out the Athletic, a frequent contributor here
to the station. That's an interesting way to put it
that Cam Chancellor is one of the most felt players. Yeah,
he was. Earl Thomas allowed Cam Chancellor to play the
way he did in the box, primarily headhunting and taking
(11:18):
guys heads and teeth out because Earl Thomas was able
to cover the entire breadth of the field. You know,
they say sideline to sideline defensive backs of safeties, and
you think maybe numbers to numbers, Earl Thomas really was
one side boundary all the way to the other side.
Fifty three and a third is like Russell Wilson used
to always talk about. That was Earl Thomas and that
(11:41):
in turn allowed him to play the cover three single
high safety and allowed Cam Chancellor to be in the
box and do what he did as the hammer. You
couldn't have had the hammer as much to the line
of scrimmage if Earl Thomas wasn't doing what he did
in the back. And it's interesting to hear Mike Sander
also talk about the effects of the lake career and
after career of Earl Thomas on his candidacy, and he
(12:03):
Mike Mike Santa Woudo says he doesn't think it's that
big a deal that that doesn't think that's going to
factor in a whole lot, then you get into again
his forty nine colleagues determining is Earl Thomas a first
ballot Hall of Famer. They do reserve a certain status
for that.
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Apply, and there is a cut above a cut? You're
with Hall of Fame worthy? Yes? Are you first ballot?
Hall of Fame worthy is another conversation, and that's one
Mike Sando and his forty nine others on the selection
committee will be discussing over the next month. They will determine,
they will announce in December. Usually it's late December, who
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the fifteen finalists are out of the twenty five semi finalists.
And then how it works is of those fifteen finalists,
all of those names get discussed the committee. The selection
committee meets at the super Bowl the week of the
Super Bowl. They spend long days I'm talking eighteen sixteen
hour days in conference rooms in the Super Bowl city
(16:07):
discussing and debating the candidacy. And it's usually a writer
from the home area or maybe even one that was
on the beat when that candidate play, that presents the case.
Eli Manning, Gary Myers, New York, a longtime New York
media and sports writer, is going to be presenting his case,
for instance, So Mike Sando, if it gets to that
(16:30):
point that Earl Thomas is a finalist, Mike Sando will
be the one presenting to the rest of the Selection Committee,
Thomas's candidacy and his reasons for inclusion. So the process
is it used to be a lot less transparent than
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or the chairman of the Hall of Fame knocks on
the hotel doors of those who have won and been selected.
(17:18):
So it is quite a grand process, and Earl Thomas
is in the semifinals of that process. Four nine, four
to five one. We talked about that, your reaction to
Mike sandos comments that he doesn't think Earl Thomas's end
of career and post career has any effect on his candidacy,
and also your thoughts of Mike Sando's comments that Cam
(17:39):
Chancellor was the most felt player he ever covered and therefore,
in Mike's mind, deserves to be at least a semi
finalist in this year's class four nine four five. I
want to tell them we'll do text line. We'll read
back your text at eleven thirty. It's interesting, Chris to
think about Cam Chancellor in that light, and also Mike's
(17:59):
comment of how many of the Legion of Boom will
get in, And we talked about this yesterday. Had they
won that second Super Bowl, I think a lot of
these candidacies would be more of a slam dunk than
maybe they already are. Richard Sherman may be more Hall
of Fame more than any of them, but because he
played through the twenty twenty one season, he won't be
eligible for Hall of Fame consideration for the first time
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until twenty twenty six. The rule is five years after
your last NFL game. People forget that. Remember Richard Sherman
came back and played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for
what four or five games in twenty twenty one, so
his eligibility won't begin until twenty twenty six. I could
see him getting in the first ballot Hall of Fame.
He's remained visible in the media Thursday Night Football package.
(18:44):
He has some podcast it's very popular, has remained in
the public eye. I could see him potentially being a
first ballot Hall of Fame or would you without question?
Sharm was just he transcended. He shaid down a side
of the field. When you do that, you put yourself
in a different class. You put yourself with Rivis Island,
(19:06):
Dion Sanders. That's the type of level you're putting yourself
in when you do that. And he did that for
a few years. But see what the hell he was
on the cover of Madden. That tells you just how
big he for real, he was a big popular guy.
You're the Generation X. That's the Generation X way of
I don't even know if I am generation I don't know.
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(19:27):
I don't even know anymore? Oh great, doesn't even that's
the modern day way of I guess judging someone by
they are the cover of madd And you're right, he was.
And I think when you write the history of the
NFL for the last twenty five years, Richard Sherman is
in there. I do agree with that.
Speaker 12 (19:43):
The tip, that's one of the most iconic plays. When
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going to know what that is. Most people would know
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Who is this guy? That's true? So yeah, four nine
to tell him what your text line if you agree
with that, and or Richard Sherman as the first ballot
Hall of Famer that wouldn't happen until twenty twenty six.
It is interesting discussion, for sure, and it is now
that time, after decade, after the Super Bowl legion of
booms heyday, where we're starting to now consider this with
(20:14):
Earl Thomas as semifinalist for the Hall of Fame, I'm
next Jackson Smith and Jagbaer consecutive to one hundred yard
receiving game for the Seahawks. He'll talk about being a
zone defense buster. He'll talk about his former Ohio State
teammate Marvin Harrison, who will be opposite it this weekend
when the Cardinals come to town. That's next on ninety
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But the power is still mostly out from the bomb
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yesterday and guys were using their cameras flashlights to look
into their lockers to get ready for practice. It was
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and my twenty five years covering the NFL. Jackson Smith
and Jigmit talked yesterday. He's got two consecutive one hundred
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then he had three big catches on that final drive
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Speaker 4 (24:49):
Virginia against zone coverage and DK Metcalf talked yesterday before
I spoke to Smith and Jigbetts locker and mech if.
I was talking about how good Smith and jigbit is
it finding holes end zone defense, especially for being in
the middle of his second NFL season. We talked to
(25:09):
him Smith and jigbit A is a locker about that.
Yesterday we talked to him about Marvin Harrison, former Ohio
State teammate of his. He was a sophomore in Ohio
State when Harrison arrived as a freshman. Of course, the
son of Marvin Harrison senior. The former Colts legend wide
receiver Marvin Harrison now has six touchdown catches for the
Arizona Cardinals as a rookie ride receiver. And he'll be
at Lumenfield against Smith and jigbits Seahawks on Sunday. This
(25:33):
is Jackson Smith and Jigbit at his locker yesterday in.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Written first got to Ohio State really and you know
while he was a freshman, I was a sophomore. My
sophomore year in Ada, Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, which party all taken that? OLLI Ohio States years
in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Oh much pride, much pride, you know for the ones
that you know are still there at Ohio State looking
at looking at us or committed. You know, we take
much pride in that and to to living up to
the standard that you know those guys before us have,
you know created c J.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Stroud's been quoted as saying you're the best outrunner he
ever threw two? Did you know that? Is that an honor?
I think I heard that. I think, so put it
on your tab.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Yeah, I think I think I heard that.
Speaker 15 (26:17):
Yeah that that means a lot though, you know CJ.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He's a great player, t k met guy was telling
us that you find the right hole, you know where
the holes are in zone coverage. Where did that? Did
you see a lot of it at Ohio State or
where did you knowledge of that?
Speaker 11 (26:31):
Guy?
Speaker 15 (26:31):
Yeah, I would say I've seen I've seen a lot
of that in Ohio State and a lot of stuff
like basketball, and you know, just repetition in that practice,
just finding the zone.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
And sitting down.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
What's interesting about the zone discussion is that at the
end of games or when teams go no huddle, the
default tends to be for defenses to get into some
kind of zone coverage, whether it's because they're blitzing or
even when they d eight it's with the game on
the line. Most defensive play callers are afraid to go
man to man for obvious reasons. You get beat one
(27:08):
time man a man, the game's over, so you tend
to be a little more conservative in your coverage with
numbers down the field, back down the field, and zones
rather than man responsibilities. And that's where Smith and Jigbook
was really effective, both against the Rams the week before
and then the last drive against San Francisco. The master
(27:28):
at that for years, of course, has been Tyler Lockett.
Mike McDonald made the point yesterday that when it has
made Smith and Jigba so good this season is that
he can He's a great enough route runner, as you
heard a reference that in Hugh Mellins talked about so
many times, as C. J. Stroud said that Jackson Smith
and Jigger was the best route runner he's ever thrown too.
But because he's such a good route runner, he also
(27:49):
beats man coverage and therefore doesn't matter whether you're in
man or zone. The Seahawks feel confident in sending him
out there either way. The one aspect that takes the
long route running in the NFL, and my twenty years
of covering it talking to guys that do it, is
the improvisational when the play breaks down, extending plays route running.
(28:10):
Tyler Lockett is exquisite at that. DK Metcalf has gotten
better at that, and he talks about Lockett quite a bit,
tutoring about that that's hard to get mastered in just
a year and a half. It happens at the college level,
but not as challenging as in the NFL. The pass
rusher to get on quarterbacks more quickly, by and large,
(28:30):
and the defensive backs are better to react to that,
by and large than they are in college football. So
Psmith and Jacob, if there's a last part of his
game that you got to get to Kriz, it's probably
that the improv breaking off routes. But if you're in
the middle of your second season and you have a
coach who believes that you can do anything against man
or zone coverage, you're going to get featured even more
(28:52):
each week. And that's what we've been seeing here the
last couple of weeks from him.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Absolutely, and I believe actually he did do a little
improv against the Niner. I believe it was the two
minute war right before the two minute warning. They send
him in motion and he is supposed to do an
inside route, but he falls and Gino has a little
bit of protection. Gino is able to find him. He
darts back to the out and he finds him. Now,
it wasn't improv because oh hey, Gino's in trouble. Was
(29:18):
improv because I screwed up and fell. He's looking for
someone to throw the football too, and he finds himself open,
and that's just gonna build his game.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
But I think the second warner almost brought that pass.
I remember that, oh yeah when Yeah, that was just
and Smith threw a great pass there.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
How good Geno is right and making making a tough throw,
making it look easy and finding Jayson in traffic, and
then also to Jaysen with how they're using him.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
He has found a lot of his damage being done
in the slot. Yep.
Speaker 12 (29:47):
So the Seahawks have found their slot guy, something that
they've wanted or needed for the past few seasons, just
you know, having ty Lockett. He's kind of the down
the field, big play receiver, so is DK, and now
they have a mesh with we have someone that can
really destroy teams in the slot. What do you have
ten catches for one hundred and ten yards yep. So
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he had a really good performance and he did a
lot of his damage from what the slot. And he
continues to do that, it's going to make it that
much harder for defenses to slow down DK. Hell ty
Lockett too in that conversation, because you can't just leave
him open as well. So having JSN take the next
stride and becoming a target just being in the offense
(30:30):
as much as he is and being a quote unquote
dominant force that's just going to make teams defense is
that much harder to try to key in on him,
and hopefully the run game cauld get going, because wow,
this offense could really be something.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, he'd help his offensive line is if run game
could get going. The other thing Smith and Jigba has
is a play caller who is willing to move him
around it and he's not just in the slot. DK
Metcalf at times has been in the slot. And one
of the signatures of Ryan Grubb's play calling and play
designs when they get to throw is how varied he
uses his wide receivers. DK Metcalf was in the short
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right fight. There was nobody outside him, so it wasn't
a true slot, but he was basically a slot right
receiver at one point in the second half, and he
actually chip blocked Nick Bosa. I had my binoculars on it.
I couldn't believe what I was watching. I cannot remember
Tyger seeing dk Metcalf chip on a premier edge rusher
in the six years I've been watching him. But he
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came down. It would have been a crack. It would
have been a crack crackback block. Had he been a
sweep to the outside, but it was just a drop
back pass, but Metcalf came down onto Bosa and chipped him,
and then Bosa went on to try to pass rush
against Abe Lucas and that's and then Metcalf continued on
on his route. But that's another example of how different
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ways Ryan Grubb will use his wide receivers if they
get the time at the offensive line to do everything
Grub is designing to do. That is another way that
Abe Lucas's return can really help on the edge. Now,
Charles Cross still had problems against San Francisco. I don't
even know what his PFF grade was, and everyone keeps
yelling at me about buds PFF grade. I can just
(32:11):
tell you that the guy was on skates for most
of the first half. He was moving backwards into the quarterback.
And whether that's graded as a loss or not, I
can tell you. Gino Smith doesn't appreciate to have his
guy and the other team's guy both in his grill
as he's trying to throw the ball, and that happened
time and again to Cross, especially in the first half.
There were a couple plays I noticed in the first
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half that Nick Bosa did the same thing to Abe Lucas,
and let's be frank. Once Nick Bosa went out of
the game middle of the third quarter, that changed everything.
And all of a sudden, Charles Cross and Abe Lucas
weren't getting pushed back, and Leonard Floyd at one point
on the final drive, he got so tired of rush
(32:55):
pass rushing against Abe Lucas he just stopped. It was
the play across midfield. It was actually the past. It
was the sixteen yard scramble that Smith had before the
winning touchdown, scrambled two plays before the sixteen yard scramble
that got him into the red zone with thirty seconds left.
If you watch that play, Kenneth Walker chipped on Leonard Floyd.
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Floyd was the only premier pass rusher left on the
field after Nick Bosa got hurt. For San Francisco, Grub
had Kenneth Walker chip on Leonard Floyd and then continue
out into the pattern.
Speaker 16 (33:31):
And Floyd, after he got chipped, just stood there. He
actually walked a cup, walked a couple steps outside toward
the sidelines, and Abe Lucas was just standing there waiting
for Leonard Floyd to pass rush and he wouldn't do it.
He just stood there, and because he had gone wide,
it was a freeway wide running lane for Gino Smith.
And when he saw Leonard Floyd just standing there not
(33:52):
doing anything, that's when Smith took off for the sixteen
yard scramble. He had no intentions, it looked like to
run there until he saw Leonard Floyd just stop up
and so as exhausted as you heard on the clip,
Abe Lucas describing he wasn't the last drive. Leonard Floyd
was even more tired or just tired of but pass
rushing against Abe Lucas than Lucas was.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Nobody was getting tired of pass rushing against Mike Durrell,
Stone Forsyth and George Fant the first ten games of
the season, I can tell you that. So that's the
difference right there, to have Abe Lucas back at right
tackling again. If you missed the top of the show,
Abe Lucas was a full practice participant yesterday. That's a
great sign for the Seahawks that he can stack two
consecutive weeks and play again Sunday against Arizona. I asked
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Mike Vindaald yesterday, they're going to have a pitch count
on him again. Lucas was forty two out of sixty
snaps in the San Francisco game, and McDonald says too
early in the week to know whether they are going
to have to limit him or not and spell him
like they did in San Francisco four nine, four to
five one, and tell him we'll do text line what
you thought of Abe Lucas's return and how big he
can be? Is he a savior? I wrote for the
(34:57):
News Tribune at the Newstribune dot com this morning. You
can read that story about is this a savior? The
new right tackle, the starting old new old right tackle
being back could be the savior for the offensive line
you could read at the News Tribune and the News
Tribune dot com coming up next. For fifteen years, Pete
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Carroll had one speech about one game from another, whether
it's they're playing undefeated New England, whether they were playing
first place San Francisco, it was all the same. Mike
McDonald's exactly the opposite, and yesterday he showed that again.
We'll talk about that next eleven o'clock. John Manley's going
to talk about the State High School Football Championships second
round quarterfinals this week, starting tomorrow night. John Manley the
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I know she loves boxing.
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I know we have some audio we can get to here.
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looked good training and all my friends thought Nate would
win the fight, which is insane. But we're not gonna
get into that.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Greg. Let's let's talk to Mike McDonald and what his
what he ask planned, and yeah, what you remember if
you a Seahawk fan for one year, for the last
fifteen years, you remember Pete care. Every week's a championship opportunity.
This week's the big game because it's the next one.
All of that, and players were ingrained and saying that
it's completely the opposite. Now last weekend, after the Seahawks
(37:08):
beat the forty nine, or Gino Smith said, quote, we
knew what was at stake, Jackson Smith and Jigbas said
he treated it like a playoff game. This was in November.
This week yesterday, as the Seahawks prepared to play first
place Arizona while one game behind the Cardinals. This is
what Mike McDonald said yesterday about Sunday's game.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
And it's incredibly important. Started ranking things about what we're
trying to achieve here, and that's at or near the
top of the list. So I know, we you know,
we're on a slide here at home, and we're trying
to do a couple of things, you know, to make
it come to life. I mean, we're treating this like
a home playoff game for us. I mean, we need
the twelves rocking. And you're right, that's the vision, that's
what we're trying to create. So let's get it started
this Sunday.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
I mean, Pete Carroll didn't call home actual real life
home playoff games, home playoff games.
Speaker 12 (37:51):
Well, the Seahawks are one and three at home, so
they got to get a roll. Well, no, they lost
four straight to home.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
They this is only the second time since the building
opened that they've watched four straighted home home, and the
other time was two thousand and eight Mike Holmgren's final
season when they went four and twelve. That's the only
other time they've lost four in a row at home.
That itself is a problem. You know what else is
a problem. We've talked about this at the Buffalo game.
(38:15):
All the visiting fans that populate the one hundred level
behind the visiting team bench on the east sideline.
Speaker 12 (38:20):
Let's see if Azy does the same. You wouldn't think, right,
because the Arizona there, everyone's a little brother. They're they're
not there yet. At almost everyone from Arizona's from somewhere
else anyway. But yeah, eventually the Cardinals have not drawn on.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
The road in Seattle. There's not been this influx of
Cardinal red behind Arizona's Sea. Yeah, indeed, that would be
the sellout of the ultimate sellouts, if you're selling out
the Cardinals fans from coming up from Phoenix or.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
Where have you.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
But that has also been a problem. We've talked about this.
There is no doubt that there are season ticket holders
for the Seahawks that have profited handsomely, and we did
a couple show segments on that, and people in the
text line wrote in about how they were making almost
all of their money back for an entire season ticket,
which is twenty five hundred dollars. Now, they were making
that back in selling one or two games. You can't
(39:14):
blame them if the team's going to lose four in
a row at home. So that was the start of
that audio from Mike McDonald's and that is a huge
priority for them, is to get the home field advantage
back in Seattle's favor. The theory, of course, is that
if the Seahawks start winning home games, fans won't sell
their tickets to the visiting team at a high profit
because they'd rather go see the Seahawks win. But you
(39:35):
can make a pretty compelling case to why people are
selling their tickets at two four, three, five hundred dollars
six hundreds of pop rather than sit in the rain
for three and a half hours and watch the Seahawks lose.
So that is what Mike McDonald's talking about when he
says that's a huge priority for us. But yeah, you
would never even hear for playoff games. Pete Carroll saying
we're treating us like a playoff game. Mike McDonald I
(39:57):
went around the locker room yesterday talking to some guys saying,
is this just it is different? And they say, yeah,
it's different, But is this all what you're thinking anyway?
And DK meck I said, wow, there's a couple of ways.
It's goinna cat and Charles Cross told me, yeah, the
messaging is different, but the stame's the same. We got
to treat every game big because the NFL there's fewer games.
That is another difference between the NFL and the other sports.
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Of course, Baseball one hundred and sixty two games, NBA, NHL,
eighty eighty two games. One game isn't going to make
your season. We just saw last weekend with the Seahawks
in Santa Clara. One game can absolutely flip your season.
And this game can put the Seahawks in first place
when they were in last place last week. That's how
quickly that things can change in the NFL. So yeah,
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it really would benefit the Seahawks to get something of
a home field advantage back. But yeah, I will be
very surprised if I see a lot of red and
behind the Cardinals bench on Sunday four nine, four five
to tell them we're do text line. Your thoughts on
the home field advantage are lack thereof. If you're a
season ticket holder for the Seahawks, if that is part
of the reason why you've been selling your tickets for profit, yeah,
(41:03):
more power to you. They're going to charge you twenty
five hundred dollars and then lose. Yeah, so be it.
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