December 10, 2024 • 37 mins
Gregg and Christopher get things rolling w/ headlines as the fellas discuss all things around the sports world. We then play audio from head coach Jay Norvell talking about the transfer portal and how agents are putting college athletes in their crosshairs and pretty much taking money from the athletes. We close the hour w/ audio from Mike Macdonald on the Seahawks playing w/ despiration.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mariners starting pitching staff. You'll hear what Jerry Depoto
said about that the Kraken just finished the most impressive
road trip and memory back in the East Coast and
now they're back in Climate Prege Arena tonight to start
a home stand against the defending Cup champs.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
She'll hear that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
On ninety three point three KGRFM, we'll detail that the
four Heisman Trophy finalists were announced. We'll get to who
they are. At eleven o'clock, Jory Epstein join us for
her weekly visit with us, the senior NFL writer for
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Zeke's Pizza dot com, home grown in the Northwest.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
At eleven o'clock, I'm going to go down the list
of the foes the Seahawks have left in the final
four games, and I'm going to ask Joy from a
national perspective. And she's seen those teams, each of them.
The Packers she's spent time in training camp with. And
I'm gonna ask Joy about her opinion of the Packers,
the Vikings, the Bears, and the Rams in succession, the
Seahawks' final four opponents. At eleven thirty year texts four nine,
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four y five one on the telemotue text signment it's
game time, It's Tully time. We'll read back your text
at eleven thirty. How many games are the Seahawks gonna win?
Are the ruminating four?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Last week when we asked how many of the nating five,
some of you said one and four.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You're already wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Where you'd hope.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Naw, the defense has been too good. They were probably
gonna at worse. I would say two and two.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I think he'd be a coup to split between Green
Bay and Minnesota back to back here coming up next
couple of weeks. And the what the winning Arizona did
is allow them to afford them to lose one of
those games and still be still lose to the Bears.
That's the one. Well, that's the yeah, that's the trip
up the trick on that though, Chris Man, that's not
an easy game from a just a human perspective, those
guys will get idea. I know they get paid in
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their professionals three days after they play the Minnesota Vikings,
one of the best defenses in the NFL and an
offense that just put up forty plus with Sam Darnold
bad though, Man eight, the Seahawks are not some juggernaut.
There's a very fine line when it comes to the Bears.
I would say they are short week. Flying on Christmas
night to Chicago to play on four days rest after
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playing Minnesota, to play Chicago, that is no easy task.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That will be a slog and a half.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm telling you, man, people are going to be jumping
off the space needle December twenty sixth in the evening
about how hard it is to beat the Bears and
Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We'll talk about that. I hear you, Chris. They should
boat race them, but the.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Even boat race I think just by ten points should
be like the bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
No, not with this team, not with those conditions, that
that is going to be a It's not even a
trap game. If they were playing anyone, that would be difficult.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So if they can run the football as they did
on Sunday against the Cardinals, I think it will be
a nice butt whooping thirty to fifteen or something. Because
I don't trust the Bears offense is just.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh, I believe me. I'm not saying the Bears are good.
I'm saying the conditions are not ripe.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
We just run the football, run a bunch of counter again.
We're going to talk about that during the week. I
think the Arizona front was particularly ripe for that, and
that's why. Oh yeah, they're terrible. It's just booting a
bunch of guys. But even the way they play, they
crowd the line of scrimmage. They are ripe for gap blocking,
and they move at the snap. They often move themselves
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right out of the gap that the Seahawks were blocking into.
I'm not sure that's sustainable against Green Bay. We're gonna
talk about that all week. It's one of my questions
when I go out to the Seahawks to next couple
of days, I'm gonna be asking about how sustainable is this?
All gap blocking and a mix of gap and zone.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Headlines about you by Frost food, Corse, I choice, chill.
What is exactly alien Kenneth Walker? When will the Seahawks
get their lead rusher back? Coach Mike McDonald answered me,
asking him that yesterday afternoon on a zoom called the
day after the Seahawks one in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I sent him to you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, I did double check, all right, yesterday Mike McDonald yesterday.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
All right, go slide it off the presser.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, you just sent the norvelle.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right, I'll talk about it and you can pull
it up from the press conference yesterday. The two questions
I asked about Kenneth Walker, the Seahawks running back has
been listed with ankle and calf injuries from last week.
McDonald said yesterday he has only got one of.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Those, that's a calf injury.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He said that he was getting tests as quote as
we speak yesterday Monday afternoon for that calf injury, and
that the Seahawks should know within the next twenty four
to forty eight hours what the results of those tests are.
That doesn't sound great. Usually, if some if there's an
injury that they think he's recovering from, they'll say he's on.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The road back, or we'll wait and see how it goes.
Later this week. We hope to get him on the
practice field.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But to say he was currently in test as we
were speaking means that they have not found the root cause.
A week into his injury, he was missing practices Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. He was limited Wednesday, missed Thursday and Friday,
and so whatever tests they had done up until Monday,
were not conclusive and didn't solve it, and if he
wouldn't be getting more tests, if it wouldn't still bothering him,
so that they're still searching, which isn't great towards him.
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Kenneth Walker, the lead back playing on Sunday against Green
Bay McDonald, is really direct and clear about injury. He
doesn't beat it on, he doesn't cloys, and you'll have
to see, as Pete Carroll was in some NFL coaches,
he does sometimes give you the lower body upper body stuff.
But when you flat out ask him a question, what's
bothering the guy when he might be back, he tends
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to give you a straight answer. On Friday when we
asked him. I asked him Friday when Walker was listened
as questionable to play against the Cardinals. He said, I said, well,
which state of which side of questionable is he? And
he said, I wish I could tell you. We honestly
don't know. We may have to make a roster move tomorrow.
And that was a very direct and clear answer, because
sure enough, they made a roster move on Saturday for
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George Lawney elevated him from the practice squad and he
became the third back because Walker they declared him out
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So when you get into.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
These reading the tea leaves and reading between the line,
when you deal with a coach every day, every day
for months and years on end, and McDonald there's much
less of that. You ask him a question, he gives
you an answer, and away they go. So more tests
for Kenneth Walker they're hoping to know within the next
twenty four to forty eight hours. My story on that
and detailing Zach Sharmaine's career day one hundred and thirty
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five four yards rushing replacing Walker in Arizona. It's up
at the News Tribute dot Common on Twitter. EXITGBO Seattle
again in the Seahawks game ahead of the Rams. Atop
the NFC West. Four games left in the regular season.
The next game, of course, Sunday night nine and four.
Green Bay Packers come in here at Loomfield. Last night,
the Bengals beat the Wayward all kinds of directions Dallas
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Cowboys twenty seven to twenty. Dallas still going with Cooper
Rush at quarterback and that's not going very well. The
crack and return home from their three and one road
trip back East. They hosted defending Stanley kept champion in
Florida Panthers tonight six thirty cores like Pregame Show with
Mike Benton and seven pm Puck Rock with Everett fitchu
Al Kaminski. Right here and You're home with the crack
in ninety three point three KJRFM College Football. If you
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missed it, Washington is going to play in the Sun
Bowl in Alpaso, Texas, New Year's Eve against Louisville. Washington
State's going to play Syracuse in the Holiday Bowl in
San Diego December twenty seventh. The four finalists for the
twenty twenty four Heisman Trophy are Organ quarterback Dylan Gabriel,
Colorado wide receiver in corner two way player Travis Hunter,
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Boise State running back Ashton Genty, and Miami quarterback former.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
W SH cougar cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Gabriel, Hunter, Genty, and Ward are going to be in
the Downtown Athletic Club in New York City on Saturday
night for the internationally televised announcement. The Heisman has been
awarded at the nation's most outstanding college football player since
nineteen thirty five. The top vote four vote getters are
determined by nine hundred voters across the country, mostly media members.
Some are former Heisman Trophy winners. All former Heisman Trophy
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winners have a vote. College basketball you Man host Eastern
Washington to night eight pm tip off on nine to
fifty KJRFM because we had the Crack and n FM.
Washington State next place on Saturday home against Missouri State
the men's basketball team and Gonzaga's men's hoops which lost
in overtime to Kentucky at Climate Pledgerena on Saturday. They
play next on Saturday night against defending national champion Connecticut.
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That's in Madison Square Garden in New York on Fox
Television Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
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Speaker 2 (08:39):
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is for two tickets to January second against the Vancouver Canucks. Yesterday,
Mariner's President of baseball Operations, Jerry Depoto, spoke with Major
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League Network Radio Baseball Network Radio at the Baseball Winter
Meetings in Fort Worth, Texas. There was a report by
Alex Spier the Boston Globe that the Mariners have quote
expressed willingness to listen to offers for starting Pittrick Luis Castillo.
When asked about the volume of calls he gets on
the Mariners starters, Dipoto confirmed he has been getting him.
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The Poto said on MLB Network to host Steve Phillips
and Edward ar Perez, quote, that's what that's what we
get hit on the most. It's expected, especially with the
young and when I say young, guys like Gilbert George Kirby,
Bryce Miller, Brian Wu. Those guys that are generally affordable
and controllable. For years, we get hit on them a ton,
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and we've been resistant to even engaging in discussion on
those guys. It doesn't make sense that's relieving to hear.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I would think.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Quote this is Jerry de Poto continuing on MLB Network
Radio yesterday from the winter meetings in Fort Worth. Quote,
we don't feel like we get better if we talk
about trading those guys, meaning the young starting pitchers. They're
the backbone of what we do, especially in our ballparking,
in our environment, run prevention is the easiest pathway to
getting back to the postseason. About payroll, he told the
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Poto the Mariner's payroll and how much they're able to
spend from ownership this year. Quote Jerry Depoto says, we
do have the ability to add payroll, and we do
have some financial freedoms. We also have the ability to
be creative. This is probably the first year that we've
been very aggressive in talking to other teams about trade targets.
That include the upper end of our prospect system.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That could be Cole Young, that could be Tyler Locklear
to Poto gave a.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Spotlight the third baseman, Ben Williamson. According to this report
from them will Be Network Radio, most people think Ben
Williams is going to start and triple a TA Coma
beginning this year.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That is a tell, Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
When a president baseball off starts talking about his prospects
publicly and an insider hot stove type of show like
that from the winter meetings, is he wants those guys
to get on other teams radar so they could possibly
offer a trade package. So the Poto is indicating that
he's willing for the first time to talk about his
top prospects in the farm system to acquire top end talent,
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and it has to be offense because he's already got
the pitching. I found those comments interesting four nine, four
or five one on the telemortue text on your reaction
to those from Jerry to Poto. First, do you believe him?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Nope, Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I was looking through the whole time I was reading this,
and Chris is shaking his head from side to side
like a good native Seattle guy.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So it sounds very depoto e.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I just made it up, But I know listeners fans
of the mariners understand exactly what the Poto he means.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That was funny. As I was reading that, I kept glad.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It was just like, bruh, you've been saying all types
of the I don't even want to get into it
because we have some time before we get into the
mariner's discussion.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I don't want to jump into it in December. We
got a few more months.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well I do.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I do because I bring it up because this is
when the time that will shape their roster as far
as trades and agent signings.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
We've heard that before. What time is now we can
make our roster better. Blah blah blah. We're gonna We're
not gonna spend big, but you know what, we found
some pieces that we think will work well with what
we have already. Oh really yeah, okay bringing in guys
that bat what oh ops?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is just huh okay?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
How'd that work out?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Checks line is that Jerry Depoto or Charlie Brown's teacher
sounds the same year after year after year.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That's the best one. That's the tweet of the year
or text of the year.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Right there. I had to read it before we even
gett out of six.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Man, that's that's spot on.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I said, oh, Benda last year was we're gonna bring
the Poto back. That was like really, so they didn't
do anything different but just have great pitching. And now
you're going to bring the guy back that's supposed to
I don't know, go out and make this roster.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
A playoff content. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I just I.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Don't know anymore. I do not know.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
If someone knows texting, give me something, give me something
that I can be like, you know what, that's that's
something I can jump behind.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, So you're not encouraged by the fact that he's
dangling top prospects to get which would that top talent.
You're not encouraged that he says he will not trade
his starting pictures. Now Castillo is a different case. You mentioned.
You noticed he mentioned his young guys Kirby and Logan Gilbert.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
He can talk to talk. Now, we just need him
to walk the walk, baby, Come on, man. That's there's
two phases to it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
He's just doing one. He's out there talking.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Hey, guys, you know we got the prospects. This is
the plan. When it's time to walk. Yeah, my feet
are I don't have the right shoes. We're not going
to do this.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This is definitive as you've been in our eight months together. No,
I've been definditi You usually color it a little.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Actually, you're right. I have been very fifty to fifty.
Dare I say I'll just leave it.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You're a hundred nothing?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Oh yeah, it's because I know what fans that are
far more fanning than I am are than Mariners. I
know what they've been through and this is only like
a year that I'm been like really tuned in, and you.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Are the man of the people on this.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I try to be well, that's when you ask the people,
because you guys have shown the way. And then, as
I mentioned, the Poto talks to talk, but he ain't
falling up with the walking baby. Just let the young
nego say walk it like im talking and Jerry Depoto
ain't doing none of that.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Agos Yeah, all right, four to five. I speak fluent,
deep Deepotoese and Chris's spot on the see. I knew
you guys would understand.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I feel bad for y'all, really do, because what's gonna
happen is we're gonna get the baseball season and they're
gonna start off rough.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's gonna be the first.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Month of Oh, you know, we have the guys, they're
just not Ah, you can I think someone might have
mentioned on the text line maybe during the season you
can copy and paste your entire show that you guys
did for the first few months and bring it back
and it's now what I don't know, September, right before
they missed the playoffs. It would still be accurate of
what's going on with the team. So I'll believe it
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when I see it, I guess, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
We rarely get this much unit nanimity. On the text line,
it's one hundred percent in favor of what you're saying, Chris.
They were absolutely echoing you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well, that's great.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I'm glad it's great, but it also sucks at the
same time, because how about prove me wrong?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You know. A great example would be Zach Sharburney.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
He had a great game after I said, you know,
he is really just ground and pound, not gonna give
you much great vision, but he has his career day,
which is great.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I want to be able to.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Eat crows sometimes, and Jerry Depoto ain't giving you that.
He's he's it. I'm done I'm done. I think I
said enough.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Excellent. I'm glad I brought it up. You're making tons
of friends on the text side four nine four five one.
We get to read those back that I haven't read already.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Chris sounds the Teacher and Peanuts special.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Woo wah wah wah.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, that's exactly what Deboto does. W Wan want keep
going though, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You won't get this on the other station here in Seattle.
I'm next.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, Jerry to Porto won't even come on our shone.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I wonder why I'll reach out, Hey, Jerry Man, Let's
let's let's wrap first, play this segment, and then let's
ask you. I'll ask opened into question and let him
take it away.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Let's yeah, let's call Jerry to Potto and fort Worth
and talk to him about this.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'm next. I'm glad to brought that up up. Next,
the transfer portal open yesterday. In college football and all
the hell that comes with it. J Novell, coach of
Colorado State, explain what it's like for players, coaches, and
programs as clearly as I've heard from a person.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's squarely within all that chaos. You'll hear from that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Next, we'll discuss the transfer portal in college football on
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Now back to the Great Bell Show with Christopher Kidd
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Speaker 2 (18:04):
Today.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Where's the exactly and now it's pretty distinct, you can't
miss it. FO to tell him we'll do text line
lighting up with the Jerry Depoto comments from the winter
meetings at Fort Worth and Christopher Kids.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I'm done. We don't talk about no more.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I said enough without saying a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
The Transfer portal. The transfer portal opened yesterday in college football.
Speaking to jokes Jane Novelle, the coach of Colorado State,
We're gonna get to his comments about it in a minute,
because I think it clearly illustrates what is going on
in the middle of these programs right now. The Huskies,
Washington Huskies apparently lost their starting guard yesterday, entering the portal.
Players all over the country putting out statements on social media.
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These statements are almost boiler boiler.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Played Cutt and Page.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You ever noticed that Chris, It's how much he loves
the program, how much he appreciates everyone for him with
the transition, the transition sentences always with that being said.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
If I was transferent, I'm like, hey, I'm out saying
my name of the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Pool in the mighty sec.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
One hundred and fifty seven players reportedly entered the portal yesterday,
and one day Mississippi State had twenty one entered the
portal alone. This is how crazy it is. Four players
from Arkansas got in a car and drove to Old Miss,
reportedly to visit with Old Miss. They're still on Arkansas's roster.
I think they're in a bowl game, aren't they? Everyone's
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in a bowl game. Arkansas players got hopped in a
car and drove the Old Miss to visit with Lane
Kiff and Old Miss league rivals. That's what's going on
in college football right now. Jaye Novell I covered him
when he was first breaking into coaching as a tight
ends coach for the Raiders in the early two thousands.
He's now the Colorado State head coach. He I thought
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really nailed what's going It's hard to kind of grasp
what's going on inside college football programs.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Jaye Novell did. Here.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Agis and these independent agents call these schools up that
they know have money, and they say, what if Kevin
gets in the portal, how much would.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You pay him?
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Oh, I'll pay him one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
and they'll go to the next school. What if Kevin
got in the portal, what would you pay him? Oh,
I'd give him one seventy five and then another school
might say, oh, I'll give him two hundred. So now
this independent agent DM's Kevin and says, call me, I
got some deals for him. And then they talk and
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he goes, if you get in the portal, I can
give you two hundred thousand dollars, okay, And it's hard
for a kid when he hears that. So these kids
are not thinking about getting into portal, but when they
have these people call him and say, if you get
in the portal, I'll give you two thousand dollars. And
by the way, I'm gonna take fifteen to twenty percent
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of that. And so these guys are just stealing from
these kids. An NFLPA agent gets three percent. A lot
of these agents that are talking to all of our players,
they're taking ten, fifteen to twenty percent. And that's really criminal, really,
But that's what's going on in college football. And as
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much as we try to tell our players that and
educate them, you know, when somebody's offering you though that
kind of money, it's still hard for these kids, okay.
And so you know, that just kind of gives you
an idea of what's happening, and it's unfortunate. And like
I said, we talked to our top twenty six kids.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
They all have.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Been offered a lot of the money.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I assuming he means the top twenty six players on
his roster, the twenty two starters and the specialists.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
The punter, the kicker, long snapper, and the holder.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's twenty six. All twenty six have been offered to
leave Colorado State. And we're not talking about Alabama or Georgia,
talking about Colorado State in the Mountain West. That was
courtesy of will Peterson. He's a writer for the Predictors
dot com. It covers Colorida State football and basketball for
thirteen ten AM and one oh three FM in Fort Collins.
That was on Twitter x at Willie pets It's really
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illustrative of what's going on here. The NCAAs, and remember
the NCAA is not some entity pie in the sky
above everything. The NCAA are the college presidents. The college
presidents vote on legislation, on bylaws, on policy. The college
presidents have been so scared of getting sued antitrust, violating
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the federal rulings on these settlements and house settlements and
the nil the whole thing that started us with the
obandon case. They're so afraid of getting sued that they've
just decided to punt everything. They're not going to regulate anything.
And there's the college presidents in the NCAA are hoping
that Congress will step in and rule this, and Congress
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has saying, Nah, first of all, this is your mess,
and secondly, I don't want to tick off our constituents.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Do you think the.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Senators from Alabama and Georgia want to regulate nil? Right now,
they'll get voted out of office.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So Congress is not gonna step in there.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So the college presidents have to do this, and they
won't do it because the college president's with the most
sway are the ones making the most money off of this.
Their schools are making the most money off of this
haves and have nots.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
In the meantime, the players are stuck in the middle.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And Jay Novell just described it, Chris, these agents, it's
not like their buddy they know on the block. These
there dudes coming out of the blue they've never heard
from before.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
All of a sudden, these players are waking up.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
In the morning in fot Collins, Colorado, after a morning lift,
and they're turning on their phone and they're getting a
direct message from an agent. I put air quotes around.
Who says I can get you two hundred thousand dollars
to come to Kansas or to come to Missouri.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh two hundred thousand. I'm getting twenty thousand here at
Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That sounds good to me.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm going to ten x my income and make a
quarter of a million dollars as a college student.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Sign me up.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh, you're gonna take twenty percent whatever? What's twenty percent
of a lot?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
A lot? So they've got the player signs up.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
As jan Novel just described, twenty percent is seven times
what an NFL player agent gets. The NFL and the
Players Association regulates how much of the You can't get
certified as an agent in the NFL unless you abide
by the NFL and the Players Association's rules. There is
no validation in approval in the NCAA in college football.
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So here's where it's headed. I've talked to a couple
people when I was in Phoenix. I talked to someone
in a couple of people and really in the know
on college football and the policy.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Making of it.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Longtime athletic directors, A couple friends of mine down there, Chris.
They think what's gonna happen is that college football, in
particular maybe basketball, but definitely football, is going to move
its entire operations off of campus. Why because then they
won't be subject to nil laws whatever comes down the
pike that they finally clean us up with. But more importantly,
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they won't be subject to Title nine and they won't
be subject to having to pay equally for women athletics
as they are for men. They will become private entities,
separated from the school. They will be detached to school
only by wearing the clothing, the uniforms cloth only school members,
and these players will be separate from the school. Maybe
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they go to college, maybe they just have these sham
courses that are correspondence courses online, but they work, train
play off campus, and they therefore will circumvent the federal
law on college campuses for Title nine equity of funding athletics.
That's where a lot of people who've been in this
business for a long time at high levels think it's headed.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And who will do that?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The Big ten, the sec, the university and athletic programs,
and the football programs that have the money to do
this will the ones to do this, So the Michigans
and the Texas and Georgia and Alabama will become private
entities separate from the campuses. Those that don't have the
resources to do it, think Mountain West, think Washington State,
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Oregon State, they'll stay on campus and be subject to
Title nine and the current or whatever the college environment is.
And inherently there are your haves and have nots. So
the best players will go to the private entities that
can pay them unlimited sums of money off campus, not
subject to Title nine or anything else. So the best
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players will navigate and matriculate there, and the players that
aren't as good will go to the schools that stay
on campus. Then when the players who are off campus
get good enough, they'll go to those private.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Entities that are off campus.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So essentially they will be a minor league for sports
in college for football in a major league. That's where
a lot of people think this is headed. And so
there will be as there was with realignment last year,
as there was with Washington and Oregon, there will be
a gold rush, a land rush of schools and programs
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that are going to try to get on the right
side of that divide. They're going to try to shake
down their collectives and try to raise enough money to
become private entities to move off campus and be in
the halves, and those who are not able to do
that will fall to the have nots, and they will
be a giant divide. Right in the middle of that
is that where we want college at football to go,
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because that's where the people that know more than any
of us about it think it's headed four nine four
five one, and tell them we'll do text line. Look,
I'm all four payers players getting paid, especially how much
coaches get paid and how much they spend on facilities
and how all of it the money is a wash,
and the players should get some of that. But there
needs to be something to regulate agents coming in and
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telling a kid you can pay two hundred thousand dollars
to play at this school. These are kids that aren't
even playing in many cases, that are just getting token
in il deals. And there's six thring guys at Colorado State.
Kevin in Norvell's example, and then being told come to
Kansas you'll get two hundred thousand dollars, Come to Texas Tech,
you'll get two fifty He's never played college football, yet
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nobody knows how good he is, and then if he's
not any good, they let him go because or the
guy will transfer again three and four colleges before he
actually playing meaningful downs. You can see how a booster
and somebody who gives you a collective might say, ah,
I'm done given to this.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
The guy I just get paid money for just left
the school. He wasn't even here a full season four nine,
four or five.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
On your reaction to all of this and what you
think about it, and whether you think Washington and Washington State,
where would they.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Fall in this hypothetical divide.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Washington's president is they will try to race to the
have side and try to raise enough money and make
it feasible that they can be on the side of
that divide that would split into a private entity off campus.
If you say that's not possible, do you think the
last two years were possible?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Ten years ago? If we had said this is what
college football looks like, would you said, yeah, this is
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Oh way, seven figure multimillion dollar nil deals ten years ago,
that was unheard of. They'd not even think. Now, look,
it's going to be regulated. If they move on. One
more thing about moving off campus is if they move
off campus, then they can treat players with labor contracts,
and then you could have agents being regulated and not
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charging twenty percent. But right now it's a free for all, unregulated.
So anyone can offer anybody anything, and all the kid
has to do is say yes or no. And if
you dangle them two hundred thousand dollars, offer a two
hundred thousand and these are often not legally binding documents.
By the way, this is a direct message on Twitter.
And the only thing that's stopping a kid from entering
into something like that and getting fleets for twenty percent
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by these crooks is him saying no. And if he
doesn't say no, it's it's free rain. It's crazy to
think of a college coach of any kind that would
want to How can you build a roster like this?
But right now you have to do this to compete,
you have to be in the transfer portal. You have
to offer players opportunities and money, hundreds of thousands of
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dollars in order to build a team to win. I
know it's why Tony Bennett got out of college basketball.
I can't see Bill Belichick taking a North Carolina job
into this environment. Hell no, why would anyone want to
deal with that? If you never have before and you
want to jump into this, it's a mess. Four nine,
four to five. I won't talk about it. We're read
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back your text. At eleven thirty yesterday, I talked about
Ernest Jones talking about this quote death mode the Seahawks
have been on since thereby coming back from there by that,
Mike McDonald's said we're treating playoffs as starting right now
in mid November, and I asked Jones if that was
sustainable and he said, yes, I think we have the players,
it is sustainable all the way into January. Yesterday I
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asked Mike McDonald the same question. Can keeping the hammer
down that long two plus months be sustainable into January
into the actual real playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
You'll hear what he said. Next eleven o'clock, joey Epstein
and I.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Weekly visit with her from senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports,
to talk about the seahawks next opponents, which include Green
Bay Sunday night at Loomingfield. All that coming up on
a cracking ticket Tuesday on ninety three point three kJ RFM,
Welcome back to the Ocean's eleven portion of the show.
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I mean, you got these twelve.
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Jory Fstein's gonna come at eleven o'clock to our show,
as she does every Tuesday, to talk about the NFL,
and we're asking about the Packers the Vikings back to back.
She's gonna talk about the Bears and what they did
in San Francis Santa Clara and didn't do and what
that says about the forty nine Ers and the Bears.
We'll talk to Jory about the Rams. He's coming up
at eleven o'clock. Yesterday we talked about what Ernest Jones
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had to say about this playoff mode he called a
death mode that coach Mike McDonald put him in the
Seahawks in coming out of there by They were four
and five and the last place at the time. And
I asked Jones after the game in Arizona on Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Is this still?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Is this sustainable to do all the way into January?
He said, oh yeah, I think we got the right guys.
So then I asked the guy who issued the edict
to treat every game like a playoff game and do
or die right now in mid November, whether that's sustainable
into the real playoffs in January. And I use the
analogy of a jockey who goes to the whip too soon.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
At the top of the stretch and his horse is
worn out when he gets to the tape to the
finish line.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
This is what the coach had to say, Well, there's
some medical stuff that I don't really know, but it's
definitely it's his calf.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And that one it's not, that's Jenneth Walker. Well we
could play that too.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
But what that wasn't really a luxury that we could
afford at that time. Greg. I mean, you know, desperate
times required desperate measures, and I wouldn't say it was desperate,
but I mean we look, we had to start stringing
wins together otherwise we were going to be Our fate
wasn't going to be in our hands, you know, come
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this time of the year. So you want every game
to feel with a sense of urgency, like, hey, this
is you know, we got to do it right now.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's time.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Whether it's week two, week three, week fifteen, I mean,
they all count the same. But when you put yourself
in that hole that we were in, you got you
gotta shake things up a little bit. So that was
really the thought behind.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It, which is that was an interesting response to say, well,
maybe I am going to the whip too soon, but
I didn't have a choice. I had to go to
the stretch drive in mid November and they're four and oh.
Since he did it, it was an eight game stretch.
They're halfway through it and they've won all four. Why well,
because the defense is Chris mentioned, if they keep playing
like this fifteen and a half points per game allowed
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in this four game winning streak, three of them against
Division fos, They beat San Francisco for the first time
in seven meetings over three years, and they Arizona twice
in three weeks. Chris is saying, Chicago's not even they're
gonna win that just by showing up. So now Minnesota
and Green Bay and Minnesota in that order, back to
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back at home. Chris, the Packers defense is what's really
interesting to them. They people don't think of him that way,
but that's how Matt before has remade them. Yes, Jordan
Love and the offense, and they do run the ball
consistently well, but both Green Bay and Minnesota's defense is
why they where they are, and Minnesota ten and two
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with one of the most attacking defenses. Brian Flores has
those guys flying these next two games. The win in
Arizona affords them to possibly losing one of these and
still being in contention to win a division because the
Rams are game back having won in Seattle with holding
the tiebreaker. But the Seahawks and Rams, of course play
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on the final game of the regular season January five
or six, So as long as the Seahawks are either
even with or a game up, or even a game
behind the Rams, depending on conference tiebreakers. Now, the conference
time breakers aren't in Seattle's favor, haven't been all season.
They've been beaten up on AFC teams, but their most
teams in the playoff contention are ahead of them in
the second tiebreaker, the conference record. So as long as
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the Seahawks stay eight even with her a game up
on the Rams, they still have their fate in their hands,
whether they lose a game or not between now and
January five or sixth in Englewood. That's what that win
in Arizona affords them. Four nine, four to five one
to tell them we're do text line, how many games
do the Seahawks win out of these four? Green Bay,
minnesotat home at Chicago the day after Christmas on a
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short rest, then a longer break, the ten day break,
the mini bye they call it. Before the Seahawks play
at the Rams to finish the regular season, how many
do they win? And why we're you back your text
at eleven thirty Up Next, joey Epstein makes her a
weekly visit thanks to Zeke's Pizza zegspizza dot Com as
we go around the NFL. Next on ninety three point
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The Mariners starting pitching staff. You'll hear what Jerry Depoto
said about that the Kraken just finished the most impressive
road trip and memory back in the East Coast and
now they're back in Climate Prege Arena tonight to start
a home stand against the defending Cup champs.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
She'll hear that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
On ninety three point three KGRFM, we'll detail that the
four Heisman Trophy finalists were announced. We'll get to who
they are. At eleven o'clock, Jory Epstein join us for
her weekly visit with us, the senior NFL writer for
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Zeke's Pizza dot com, home grown in the Northwest.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
At eleven o'clock, I'm going to go down the list
of the foes the Seahawks have left in the final
four games, and I'm going to ask Joy from a
national perspective. And she's seen those teams, each of them.
The Packers she's spent time in training camp with. And
I'm gonna ask Joy about her opinion of the Packers,
the Vikings, the Bears, and the Rams in succession, the
Seahawks' final four opponents. At eleven thirty year texts four nine,
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four y five one on the telemotue text signment it's
game time, It's Tully time. We'll read back your text
at eleven thirty. How many games are the Seahawks gonna win?
Are the ruminating four?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Last week when we asked how many of the nating five,
some of you said one and four.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You're already wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Where you'd hope.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Naw, the defense has been too good. They were probably
gonna at worse. I would say two and two.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I think he'd be a coup to split between Green
Bay and Minnesota back to back here coming up next
couple of weeks. And the what the winning Arizona did
is allow them to afford them to lose one of
those games and still be still lose to the Bears.
That's the one. Well, that's the yeah, that's the trip
up the trick on that though, Chris Man, that's not
an easy game from a just a human perspective, those
guys will get idea. I know they get paid in
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their professionals three days after they play the Minnesota Vikings,
one of the best defenses in the NFL and an
offense that just put up forty plus with Sam Darnold
bad though, Man eight, the Seahawks are not some juggernaut.
There's a very fine line when it comes to the Bears.
I would say they are short week. Flying on Christmas
night to Chicago to play on four days rest after
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playing Minnesota, to play Chicago, that is no easy task.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That will be a slog and a half.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm telling you, man, people are going to be jumping
off the space needle December twenty sixth in the evening
about how hard it is to beat the Bears and
Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We'll talk about that. I hear you, Chris. They should
boat race them, but the.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Even boat race I think just by ten points should
be like the bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
No, not with this team, not with those conditions, that
that is going to be a It's not even a
trap game. If they were playing anyone, that would be difficult.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So if they can run the football as they did
on Sunday against the Cardinals, I think it will be
a nice butt whooping thirty to fifteen or something. Because
I don't trust the Bears offense is just.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh, I believe me. I'm not saying the Bears are good.
I'm saying the conditions are not ripe.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
We just run the football, run a bunch of counter again.
We're going to talk about that during the week. I
think the Arizona front was particularly ripe for that, and
that's why. Oh yeah, they're terrible. It's just booting a
bunch of guys. But even the way they play, they
crowd the line of scrimmage. They are ripe for gap blocking,
and they move at the snap. They often move themselves
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right out of the gap that the Seahawks were blocking into.
I'm not sure that's sustainable against Green Bay. We're gonna
talk about that all week. It's one of my questions
when I go out to the Seahawks to next couple
of days, I'm gonna be asking about how sustainable is this?
All gap blocking and a mix of gap and zone.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Headlines about you by Frost food, Corse, I choice, chill.
What is exactly alien Kenneth Walker? When will the Seahawks
get their lead rusher back? Coach Mike McDonald answered me,
asking him that yesterday afternoon on a zoom called the
day after the Seahawks one in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I sent him to you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, I did double check, all right, yesterday Mike McDonald yesterday.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
All right, go slide it off the presser.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, you just sent the norvelle.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right, I'll talk about it and you can pull
it up from the press conference yesterday. The two questions
I asked about Kenneth Walker, the Seahawks running back has
been listed with ankle and calf injuries from last week.
McDonald said yesterday he has only got one of.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Those, that's a calf injury.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He said that he was getting tests as quote as
we speak yesterday Monday afternoon for that calf injury, and
that the Seahawks should know within the next twenty four
to forty eight hours what the results of those tests are.
That doesn't sound great. Usually, if some if there's an
injury that they think he's recovering from, they'll say he's on.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
The road back, or we'll wait and see how it goes.
Later this week. We hope to get him on the
practice field.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But to say he was currently in test as we
were speaking means that they have not found the root cause.
A week into his injury, he was missing practices Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday. He was limited Wednesday, missed Thursday and Friday,
and so whatever tests they had done up until Monday,
were not conclusive and didn't solve it, and if he
wouldn't be getting more tests, if it wouldn't still bothering him,
so that they're still searching, which isn't great towards him.
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Kenneth Walker, the lead back playing on Sunday against Green
Bay McDonald, is really direct and clear about injury. He
doesn't beat it on, he doesn't cloys, and you'll have
to see, as Pete Carroll was in some NFL coaches,
he does sometimes give you the lower body upper body stuff.
But when you flat out ask him a question, what's
bothering the guy when he might be back, he tends
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to give you a straight answer. On Friday when we
asked him. I asked him Friday when Walker was listened
as questionable to play against the Cardinals. He said, I said, well,
which state of which side of questionable is he? And
he said, I wish I could tell you. We honestly
don't know. We may have to make a roster move tomorrow.
And that was a very direct and clear answer, because
sure enough, they made a roster move on Saturday for
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George Lawney elevated him from the practice squad and he
became the third back because Walker they declared him out
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So when you get into.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
These reading the tea leaves and reading between the line,
when you deal with a coach every day, every day
for months and years on end, and McDonald there's much
less of that. You ask him a question, he gives
you an answer, and away they go. So more tests
for Kenneth Walker they're hoping to know within the next
twenty four to forty eight hours. My story on that
and detailing Zach Sharmaine's career day one hundred and thirty
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five four yards rushing replacing Walker in Arizona. It's up
at the News Tribute dot Common on Twitter. EXITGBO Seattle
again in the Seahawks game ahead of the Rams. Atop
the NFC West. Four games left in the regular season.
The next game, of course, Sunday night nine and four.
Green Bay Packers come in here at Loomfield. Last night,
the Bengals beat the Wayward all kinds of directions Dallas
(06:40):
Cowboys twenty seven to twenty. Dallas still going with Cooper
Rush at quarterback and that's not going very well. The
crack and return home from their three and one road
trip back East. They hosted defending Stanley kept champion in
Florida Panthers tonight six thirty cores like Pregame Show with
Mike Benton and seven pm Puck Rock with Everett fitchu
Al Kaminski. Right here and You're home with the crack
in ninety three point three KJRFM College Football. If you
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missed it, Washington is going to play in the Sun
Bowl in Alpaso, Texas, New Year's Eve against Louisville. Washington
State's going to play Syracuse in the Holiday Bowl in
San Diego December twenty seventh. The four finalists for the
twenty twenty four Heisman Trophy are Organ quarterback Dylan Gabriel,
Colorado wide receiver in corner two way player Travis Hunter,
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Boise State running back Ashton Genty, and Miami quarterback former.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
W SH cougar cam Ward.
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Gabriel, Hunter, Genty, and Ward are going to be in
the Downtown Athletic Club in New York City on Saturday
night for the internationally televised announcement. The Heisman has been
awarded at the nation's most outstanding college football player since
nineteen thirty five. The top vote four vote getters are
determined by nine hundred voters across the country, mostly media members.
Some are former Heisman Trophy winners. All former Heisman Trophy
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Washington State next place on Saturday home against Missouri State
the men's basketball team and Gonzaga's men's hoops which lost
in overtime to Kentucky at Climate Pledgerena on Saturday. They
play next on Saturday night against defending national champion Connecticut.
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That's in Madison Square Garden in New York on Fox
Television Saturday night.
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Mariner's President of baseball Operations, Jerry Depoto, spoke with Major
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Meetings in Fort Worth, Texas. There was a report by
Alex Spier the Boston Globe that the Mariners have quote
expressed willingness to listen to offers for starting Pittrick Luis Castillo.
When asked about the volume of calls he gets on
the Mariners starters, Dipoto confirmed he has been getting him.
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The Poto said on MLB Network to host Steve Phillips
and Edward ar Perez, quote, that's what that's what we
get hit on the most. It's expected, especially with the
young and when I say young, guys like Gilbert George Kirby,
Bryce Miller, Brian Wu. Those guys that are generally affordable
and controllable. For years, we get hit on them a ton,
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and we've been resistant to even engaging in discussion on
those guys. It doesn't make sense that's relieving to hear.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I would think.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Quote this is Jerry de Poto continuing on MLB Network
Radio yesterday from the winter meetings in Fort Worth. Quote,
we don't feel like we get better if we talk
about trading those guys, meaning the young starting pitchers. They're
the backbone of what we do, especially in our ballparking,
in our environment, run prevention is the easiest pathway to
getting back to the postseason. About payroll, he told the
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Poto the Mariner's payroll and how much they're able to
spend from ownership this year. Quote Jerry Depoto says, we
do have the ability to add payroll, and we do
have some financial freedoms. We also have the ability to
be creative. This is probably the first year that we've
been very aggressive in talking to other teams about trade targets.
That include the upper end of our prospect system.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That could be Cole Young, that could be Tyler Locklear
to Poto gave a.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Spotlight the third baseman, Ben Williamson. According to this report
from them will Be Network Radio, most people think Ben
Williams is going to start and triple a TA Coma
beginning this year.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That is a tell, Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
When a president baseball off starts talking about his prospects
publicly and an insider hot stove type of show like
that from the winter meetings, is he wants those guys
to get on other teams radar so they could possibly
offer a trade package. So the Poto is indicating that
he's willing for the first time to talk about his
top prospects in the farm system to acquire top end talent,
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and it has to be offense because he's already got
the pitching. I found those comments interesting four nine, four
or five one on the telemortue text on your reaction
to those from Jerry to Poto. First, do you believe him?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Nope, Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I was looking through the whole time I was reading this,
and Chris is shaking his head from side to side
like a good native Seattle guy.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So it sounds very depoto e.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I just made it up, But I know listeners fans
of the mariners understand exactly what the Poto he means.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That was funny. As I was reading that, I kept glad.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It was just like, bruh, you've been saying all types
of the I don't even want to get into it
because we have some time before we get into the
mariner's discussion.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I don't want to jump into it in December. We
got a few more months.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well I do.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I do because I bring it up because this is
when the time that will shape their roster as far
as trades and agent signings.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
We've heard that before. What time is now we can
make our roster better. Blah blah blah. We're gonna We're
not gonna spend big, but you know what, we found
some pieces that we think will work well with what
we have already. Oh really yeah, okay bringing in guys
that bat what oh ops?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is just huh okay?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
How'd that work out?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Checks line is that Jerry Depoto or Charlie Brown's teacher
sounds the same year after year after year.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That's the best one. That's the tweet of the year
or text of the year.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Right there. I had to read it before we even
gett out of six.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Man, that's that's spot on.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I said, oh, Benda last year was we're gonna bring
the Poto back. That was like really, so they didn't
do anything different but just have great pitching. And now
you're going to bring the guy back that's supposed to
I don't know, go out and make this roster.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
A playoff content. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I just I.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Don't know anymore. I do not know.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
If someone knows texting, give me something, give me something
that I can be like, you know what, that's that's
something I can jump behind.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, So you're not encouraged by the fact that he's
dangling top prospects to get which would that top talent.
You're not encouraged that he says he will not trade
his starting pictures. Now Castillo is a different case. You mentioned.
You noticed he mentioned his young guys Kirby and Logan Gilbert.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
He can talk to talk. Now, we just need him
to walk the walk, baby, Come on, man. That's there's
two phases to it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
He's just doing one. He's out there talking.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Hey, guys, you know we got the prospects. This is
the plan. When it's time to walk. Yeah, my feet
are I don't have the right shoes. We're not going
to do this.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This is definitive as you've been in our eight months together. No,
I've been definditi You usually color it a little.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Actually, you're right. I have been very fifty to fifty.
Dare I say I'll just leave it.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You're a hundred nothing?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Oh yeah, it's because I know what fans that are
far more fanning than I am are than Mariners. I
know what they've been through and this is only like
a year that I'm been like really tuned in, and you.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Are the man of the people on this.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I try to be well, that's when you ask the people,
because you guys have shown the way. And then, as
I mentioned, the Poto talks to talk, but he ain't
falling up with the walking baby. Just let the young
nego say walk it like im talking and Jerry Depoto
ain't doing none of that.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Agos Yeah, all right, four to five. I speak fluent,
deep Deepotoese and Chris's spot on the see. I knew
you guys would understand.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I feel bad for y'all, really do, because what's gonna
happen is we're gonna get the baseball season and they're
gonna start off rough.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's gonna be the first.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Month of Oh, you know, we have the guys, they're
just not Ah, you can I think someone might have
mentioned on the text line maybe during the season you
can copy and paste your entire show that you guys
did for the first few months and bring it back
and it's now what I don't know, September, right before
they missed the playoffs. It would still be accurate of
what's going on with the team. So I'll believe it
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when I see it, I guess, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
We rarely get this much unit nanimity. On the text line,
it's one hundred percent in favor of what you're saying, Chris.
They were absolutely echoing you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well, that's great.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I'm glad it's great, but it also sucks at the
same time, because how about prove me wrong?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You know. A great example would be Zach Sharburney.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
He had a great game after I said, you know,
he is really just ground and pound, not gonna give
you much great vision, but he has his career day,
which is great.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I want to be able to.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Eat crows sometimes, and Jerry Depoto ain't giving you that.
He's he's it. I'm done I'm done. I think I
said enough.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Excellent. I'm glad I brought it up. You're making tons
of friends on the text side four nine four five one.
We get to read those back that I haven't read already.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Chris sounds the Teacher and Peanuts special.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Woo wah wah wah.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, that's exactly what Deboto does. W Wan want keep
going though, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You won't get this on the other station here in Seattle.
I'm next.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, Jerry to Porto won't even come on our shone.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I wonder why I'll reach out, Hey, Jerry Man, Let's
let's let's wrap first, play this segment, and then let's
ask you. I'll ask opened into question and let him
take it away.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Let's yeah, let's call Jerry to Potto and fort Worth
and talk to him about this.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'm next. I'm glad to brought that up up. Next,
the transfer portal open yesterday. In college football and all
the hell that comes with it. J Novell, coach of
Colorado State, explain what it's like for players, coaches, and
programs as clearly as I've heard from a person.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's squarely within all that chaos. You'll hear from that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Next, we'll discuss the transfer portal in college football on
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Speaker 3 (18:20):
I'm done. We don't talk about no more.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm good.
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I said enough without saying a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
The Transfer portal. The transfer portal opened yesterday in college football.
Speaking to jokes Jane Novelle, the coach of Colorado State,
We're gonna get to his comments about it in a minute,
because I think it clearly illustrates what is going on
in the middle of these programs right now. The Huskies,
Washington Huskies apparently lost their starting guard yesterday, entering the portal.
Players all over the country putting out statements on social media.
(18:47):
These statements are almost boiler boiler.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Played Cutt and Page.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You ever noticed that Chris, It's how much he loves
the program, how much he appreciates everyone for him with
the transition, the transition sentences always with that being said.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
If I was transferent, I'm like, hey, I'm out saying
my name of the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Pool in the mighty sec.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
One hundred and fifty seven players reportedly entered the portal yesterday,
and one day Mississippi State had twenty one entered the
portal alone. This is how crazy it is. Four players
from Arkansas got in a car and drove to Old Miss,
reportedly to visit with Old Miss. They're still on Arkansas's roster.
I think they're in a bowl game, aren't they? Everyone's
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in a bowl game. Arkansas players got hopped in a
car and drove the Old Miss to visit with Lane
Kiff and Old Miss league rivals. That's what's going on
in college football right now. Jaye Novell I covered him
when he was first breaking into coaching as a tight
ends coach for the Raiders in the early two thousands.
He's now the Colorado State head coach. He I thought
(19:50):
really nailed what's going It's hard to kind of grasp
what's going on inside college football programs.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Jaye Novell did. Here.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Agis and these independent agents call these schools up that
they know have money, and they say, what if Kevin
gets in the portal, how much would.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You pay him?
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Oh, I'll pay him one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
and they'll go to the next school. What if Kevin
got in the portal, what would you pay him? Oh,
I'd give him one seventy five and then another school
might say, oh, I'll give him two hundred. So now
this independent agent DM's Kevin and says, call me, I
got some deals for him. And then they talk and
(20:33):
he goes, if you get in the portal, I can
give you two hundred thousand dollars, okay, And it's hard
for a kid when he hears that. So these kids
are not thinking about getting into portal, but when they
have these people call him and say, if you get
in the portal, I'll give you two thousand dollars. And
by the way, I'm gonna take fifteen to twenty percent
(20:55):
of that. And so these guys are just stealing from
these kids. An NFLPA agent gets three percent. A lot
of these agents that are talking to all of our players,
they're taking ten, fifteen to twenty percent. And that's really criminal, really,
But that's what's going on in college football. And as
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much as we try to tell our players that and
educate them, you know, when somebody's offering you though that
kind of money, it's still hard for these kids, okay.
And so you know, that just kind of gives you
an idea of what's happening, and it's unfortunate. And like
I said, we talked to our top twenty six kids.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
They all have.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Been offered a lot of the money.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I assuming he means the top twenty six players on
his roster, the twenty two starters and the specialists.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
The punter, the kicker, long snapper, and the holder.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's twenty six. All twenty six have been offered to
leave Colorado State. And we're not talking about Alabama or Georgia,
talking about Colorado State in the Mountain West. That was
courtesy of will Peterson. He's a writer for the Predictors
dot com. It covers Colorida State football and basketball for
thirteen ten AM and one oh three FM in Fort Collins.
That was on Twitter x at Willie pets It's really
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illustrative of what's going on here. The NCAAs, and remember
the NCAA is not some entity pie in the sky
above everything. The NCAA are the college presidents. The college
presidents vote on legislation, on bylaws, on policy. The college
presidents have been so scared of getting sued antitrust, violating
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the federal rulings on these settlements and house settlements and
the nil the whole thing that started us with the
obandon case. They're so afraid of getting sued that they've
just decided to punt everything. They're not going to regulate anything.
And there's the college presidents in the NCAA are hoping
that Congress will step in and rule this, and Congress
(23:01):
has saying, Nah, first of all, this is your mess,
and secondly, I don't want to tick off our constituents.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Do you think the.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Senators from Alabama and Georgia want to regulate nil? Right now,
they'll get voted out of office.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So Congress is not gonna step in there.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So the college presidents have to do this, and they
won't do it because the college president's with the most
sway are the ones making the most money off of this.
Their schools are making the most money off of this
haves and have nots.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
In the meantime, the players are stuck in the middle.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And Jay Novell just described it, Chris, these agents, it's
not like their buddy they know on the block. These
there dudes coming out of the blue they've never heard
from before.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
All of a sudden, these players are waking up.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
In the morning in fot Collins, Colorado, after a morning lift,
and they're turning on their phone and they're getting a
direct message from an agent. I put air quotes around.
Who says I can get you two hundred thousand dollars
to come to Kansas or to come to Missouri.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh two hundred thousand. I'm getting twenty thousand here at
Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That sounds good to me.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm going to ten x my income and make a
quarter of a million dollars as a college student.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Sign me up.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh, you're gonna take twenty percent whatever? What's twenty percent
of a lot?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
A lot? So they've got the player signs up.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
As jan Novel just described, twenty percent is seven times
what an NFL player agent gets. The NFL and the
Players Association regulates how much of the You can't get
certified as an agent in the NFL unless you abide
by the NFL and the Players Association's rules. There is
no validation in approval in the NCAA in college football.
(24:38):
So here's where it's headed. I've talked to a couple
people when I was in Phoenix. I talked to someone
in a couple of people and really in the know
on college football and the policy.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Making of it.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Longtime athletic directors, A couple friends of mine down there, Chris.
They think what's gonna happen is that college football, in
particular maybe basketball, but definitely football, is going to move
its entire operations off of campus. Why because then they
won't be subject to nil laws whatever comes down the
pike that they finally clean us up with. But more importantly,
(25:08):
they won't be subject to Title nine and they won't
be subject to having to pay equally for women athletics
as they are for men. They will become private entities,
separated from the school. They will be detached to school
only by wearing the clothing, the uniforms cloth only school members,
and these players will be separate from the school. Maybe
(25:28):
they go to college, maybe they just have these sham
courses that are correspondence courses online, but they work, train
play off campus, and they therefore will circumvent the federal
law on college campuses for Title nine equity of funding athletics.
That's where a lot of people who've been in this
business for a long time at high levels think it's headed.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And who will do that?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The Big ten, the sec, the university and athletic programs,
and the football programs that have the money to do
this will the ones to do this, So the Michigans
and the Texas and Georgia and Alabama will become private
entities separate from the campuses. Those that don't have the
resources to do it, think Mountain West, think Washington State,
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Oregon State, they'll stay on campus and be subject to
Title nine and the current or whatever the college environment is.
And inherently there are your haves and have nots. So
the best players will go to the private entities that
can pay them unlimited sums of money off campus, not
subject to Title nine or anything else. So the best
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players will navigate and matriculate there, and the players that
aren't as good will go to the schools that stay
on campus. Then when the players who are off campus
get good enough, they'll go to those private.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Entities that are off campus.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So essentially they will be a minor league for sports
in college for football in a major league. That's where
a lot of people think this is headed. And so
there will be as there was with realignment last year,
as there was with Washington and Oregon, there will be
a gold rush, a land rush of schools and programs
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that are going to try to get on the right
side of that divide. They're going to try to shake
down their collectives and try to raise enough money to
become private entities to move off campus and be in
the halves, and those who are not able to do
that will fall to the have nots, and they will
be a giant divide. Right in the middle of that
is that where we want college at football to go,
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because that's where the people that know more than any
of us about it think it's headed four nine four
five one, and tell them we'll do text line. Look,
I'm all four payers players getting paid, especially how much
coaches get paid and how much they spend on facilities
and how all of it the money is a wash,
and the players should get some of that. But there
needs to be something to regulate agents coming in and
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telling a kid you can pay two hundred thousand dollars
to play at this school. These are kids that aren't
even playing in many cases, that are just getting token
in il deals. And there's six thring guys at Colorado State.
Kevin in Norvell's example, and then being told come to
Kansas you'll get two hundred thousand dollars, Come to Texas Tech,
you'll get two fifty He's never played college football, yet
(28:16):
nobody knows how good he is, and then if he's
not any good, they let him go because or the
guy will transfer again three and four colleges before he
actually playing meaningful downs. You can see how a booster
and somebody who gives you a collective might say, ah,
I'm done given to this.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
The guy I just get paid money for just left
the school. He wasn't even here a full season four nine,
four or five.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
On your reaction to all of this and what you
think about it, and whether you think Washington and Washington State,
where would they.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Fall in this hypothetical divide.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Washington's president is they will try to race to the
have side and try to raise enough money and make
it feasible that they can be on the side of
that divide that would split into a private entity off campus.
If you say that's not possible, do you think the
last two years were possible?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Ten years ago? If we had said this is what
college football looks like, would you said, yeah, this is
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Oh way, seven figure multimillion dollar nil deals ten years ago,
that was unheard of. They'd not even think. Now, look,
it's going to be regulated. If they move on. One
more thing about moving off campus is if they move
off campus, then they can treat players with labor contracts,
and then you could have agents being regulated and not
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charging twenty percent. But right now it's a free for all, unregulated.
So anyone can offer anybody anything, and all the kid
has to do is say yes or no. And if
you dangle them two hundred thousand dollars, offer a two
hundred thousand and these are often not legally binding documents.
By the way, this is a direct message on Twitter.
And the only thing that's stopping a kid from entering
into something like that and getting fleets for twenty percent
(29:55):
by these crooks is him saying no. And if he
doesn't say no, it's it's free rain. It's crazy to
think of a college coach of any kind that would
want to How can you build a roster like this?
But right now you have to do this to compete,
you have to be in the transfer portal. You have
to offer players opportunities and money, hundreds of thousands of
(30:17):
dollars in order to build a team to win. I
know it's why Tony Bennett got out of college basketball.
I can't see Bill Belichick taking a North Carolina job
into this environment. Hell no, why would anyone want to
deal with that? If you never have before and you
want to jump into this, it's a mess. Four nine,
four to five. I won't talk about it. We're read
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back your text. At eleven thirty yesterday, I talked about
Ernest Jones talking about this quote death mode the Seahawks
have been on since thereby coming back from there by that,
Mike McDonald's said we're treating playoffs as starting right now
in mid November, and I asked Jones if that was
sustainable and he said, yes, I think we have the players,
it is sustainable all the way into January. Yesterday I
(30:59):
asked Mike McDonald the same question. Can keeping the hammer
down that long two plus months be sustainable into January
into the actual real playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
You'll hear what he said. Next eleven o'clock, joey Epstein
and I.
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Weekly visit with her from senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports,
to talk about the seahawks next opponents, which include Green
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Jory Fstein's gonna come at eleven o'clock to our show,
as she does every Tuesday, to talk about the NFL,
and we're asking about the Packers the Vikings back to back.
She's gonna talk about the Bears and what they did
in San Francis Santa Clara and didn't do and what
that says about the forty nine Ers and the Bears.
We'll talk to Jory about the Rams. He's coming up
at eleven o'clock. Yesterday we talked about what Ernest Jones
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had to say about this playoff mode he called a
death mode that coach Mike McDonald put him in the
Seahawks in coming out of there by They were four
and five and the last place at the time. And
I asked Jones after the game in Arizona on Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Is this still?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Is this sustainable to do all the way into January?
He said, oh yeah, I think we got the right guys.
So then I asked the guy who issued the edict
to treat every game like a playoff game and do
or die right now in mid November, whether that's sustainable
into the real playoffs in January. And I use the
analogy of a jockey who goes to the whip too soon.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
At the top of the stretch and his horse is
worn out when he gets to the tape to the
finish line.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
This is what the coach had to say, Well, there's
some medical stuff that I don't really know, but it's
definitely it's his calf.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And that one it's not, that's Jenneth Walker. Well we
could play that too.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
But what that wasn't really a luxury that we could
afford at that time. Greg. I mean, you know, desperate
times required desperate measures, and I wouldn't say it was desperate,
but I mean we look, we had to start stringing
wins together otherwise we were going to be Our fate
wasn't going to be in our hands, you know, come
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this time of the year. So you want every game
to feel with a sense of urgency, like, hey, this
is you know, we got to do it right now.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's time.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Whether it's week two, week three, week fifteen, I mean,
they all count the same. But when you put yourself
in that hole that we were in, you got you
gotta shake things up a little bit. So that was
really the thought behind.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It, which is that was an interesting response to say, well,
maybe I am going to the whip too soon, but
I didn't have a choice. I had to go to
the stretch drive in mid November and they're four and oh.
Since he did it, it was an eight game stretch.
They're halfway through it and they've won all four. Why well,
because the defense is Chris mentioned, if they keep playing
like this fifteen and a half points per game allowed
(34:50):
in this four game winning streak, three of them against
Division fos, They beat San Francisco for the first time
in seven meetings over three years, and they Arizona twice
in three weeks. Chris is saying, Chicago's not even they're
gonna win that just by showing up. So now Minnesota
and Green Bay and Minnesota in that order, back to
(35:12):
back at home. Chris, the Packers defense is what's really
interesting to them. They people don't think of him that way,
but that's how Matt before has remade them. Yes, Jordan
Love and the offense, and they do run the ball
consistently well, but both Green Bay and Minnesota's defense is
why they where they are, and Minnesota ten and two
(35:34):
with one of the most attacking defenses. Brian Flores has
those guys flying these next two games. The win in
Arizona affords them to possibly losing one of these and
still being in contention to win a division because the
Rams are game back having won in Seattle with holding
the tiebreaker. But the Seahawks and Rams, of course play
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on the final game of the regular season January five
or six, So as long as the Seahawks are either
even with or a game up, or even a game
behind the Rams, depending on conference tiebreakers. Now, the conference
time breakers aren't in Seattle's favor, haven't been all season.
They've been beaten up on AFC teams, but their most
teams in the playoff contention are ahead of them in
the second tiebreaker, the conference record. So as long as
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the Seahawks stay eight even with her a game up
on the Rams, they still have their fate in their hands,
whether they lose a game or not between now and
January five or sixth in Englewood. That's what that win
in Arizona affords them. Four nine, four to five one
to tell them we're do text line, how many games
do the Seahawks win out of these four? Green Bay,
minnesotat home at Chicago the day after Christmas on a
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short rest, then a longer break, the ten day break,
the mini bye they call it. Before the Seahawks play
at the Rams to finish the regular season, how many
do they win? And why we're you back your text
at eleven thirty Up Next, joey Epstein makes her a
weekly visit thanks to Zeke's Pizza zegspizza dot Com as
we go around the NFL. Next on ninety three point
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