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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just because it was you know, I looked at it
at the same level. If I want to go to
an SEC game, I want to go to it. But
ever since you brought the meaning to it to me,
it is one of my favorite times.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And I can't believe that I get to call it work.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's amazing. So but you know your love for it.
When I went, I was very excited.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I stayed for the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was on the field, I was there for the
march on. I didn't miss a thing because of you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
It is meaningful and it I for those that don't
that I graduated from the United States Military Academy West
Point nineteen ninety three, I see this for me. I
was honest with Chuck and Buck the other morning talking Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Talk with them.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
This is why I began doing the seven am spots
with the Seahawks. For the opportunity to come to the
Army Navy game each year with KJR thanks to USAA.
It's like a reunion for I see classmates.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I was.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I saw our classmate in from a drive from Buffalo
through Snowstoom Paul Webbins family three am last night, in
our hotel lobby. Terrek Ptel medical officer, classmate of mine
who now lives in Gig Harbor, Tacoma area, saw him
last night. It was like we just saw each other.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yes, yes, no time passes.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
No, it's the camaraderie, the brotherhood of arms. It's an amazing,
amazing event. And I mentioned this this morning when I
talked to Chuck and Bucket seven about the Seahawks. If
you watch when you watch the Army Navy game, watch
it for what it truly is. Don't compare it to
Army or Alabama Auburn or Ohio State Michigan. Why aren't
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they throwing the ball or his team suck it? Not
about that every single player, every single player, barring an
exception which the Department Defense has to allow, every single
player in the game. Tomorrow, we'll serve our country as
a lieutenant in an ensign for the seniors. They're going
to do it in six months. This is their last
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football game of their lives. And the passion and the
effort in the want to and the care just based
on that just makes it so unique, on top of
everything else of how those players got to where they are.
Congressional appointments, the acceptance rate of eleven percent or whatever
it is nowadays in the military academies.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's what makes this special, the fact that seventeen.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
And eighteen year old young men and women decided, you
know what, I'm going to put off my Instagram and
my going to beers and partying on Friday nights and
college campuses to go serve my country as a cadet
and as a midshipman at age seventeen or eighteen, I'm
going to voluntarily get up at five am and shine
shoes and stand information in the rain and go summer
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training when everybody else is at the beach. I'm going
to do that to serve our country. That's what the
Army Navy game's about.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, and I can't wait for you guys to hear
from Captain Sammy Sullivan, who is a medalist, an Olympic
medalist rugby player and also a captain in the Army
at ten forty five. We'll hear from her because she
gives that perspective that you were just talking about, and
you know, we asked her she is, you know, an
amazing athlete.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
She still is.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And then but she had a call to serve, and
she explained what the discipline meant to her. And there
are people that crave it, and there are people that
need it, but there are people that just do it
also in honor of serving their country.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Captain Sammy Salivan is a member of the first ever
US women's sevens rugby team to medal in an Olympic game.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
She did last summer in the Paris Game.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
She's an Indian awarenough too.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
She is.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
She's just one of whom you will hear from today
on our show. Here from the one hundred and twenty
fifth Army Navy game. In a few minutes. You're gonna
hear from former Army Green Bray and Seahawks long stapper
Nate Boyer. You're gonna hear from Army football and basketball
radio play by man a good friend of mine, Rich DeMarco.
We're gonna talk to former Raiders general manager Mike Man,
who's gonna be the cover analyst tomorrow for West Was
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One's broadcast of one hundred and twenty fifth Army the
MAAD game here from Washington, DC on Westwood Ones Call.
You'll hear that game at eleven am tomorrow on ninety
three point three KJRFM. We'll talk to Army west Point
super Athletic Director Mike Buddy, the superintendent, Lieutenant General Steven Gillen.
I'm so old that he is a classmate of mine,
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the superintendent.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Of Westman, he's so young that he's a classmate of yours.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Better sixty first Superintendent of the United States Military Academy,
Lieutenant General Stephen Gillan, will talk to us about what
it is to lead a military academy in twenty twenty
four and the type of young men and women who
come there now. It is unique, it is absolutely unique
among and many other people are going to talk to
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At three point thirty, we're gonna talk to Washington commander's
head coach twelve thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Excuse me.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
We are on the East coast, folks, so we're gonna
have a specific time.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Thirty little time.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We'll talk to Washington headt and former Seahawks defensive corners
Dan Quinn. He's gonna talk to us live. That's an
exclusive here on radio road. Nobody else can to talk
to Dan Quinn. But Jessmon McIntyre had's family ties that
did what.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
We might have a member of my family popo.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh, we're definitely lighting that up For those who don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Jessmon McIntyre's father coached on the same staff at Hofstra University.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
On Long Island with dan.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Quinn way back in the waytime.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yes, and that's how the connection the Commanders are in
the playoff find. They're already holding a playoff spot as
if we speak, and they're preparing to go down to
New Orleans to play the Saints this weekend. But dan
Quinn will join us at twelve thirty live here on
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Frostbrewed cors Light from the Armington National Cemetery at Seahawks headquarters. Yesterday,
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as I was taking off the fly to d C,
Kenneth Walker and Trey Brown did not practice yet again,
trending toward Walker not playing Sunday. I'm expecting the lead
running back to be listed maybe questionable at best, maybe
doubtful or even out on the injury report. The Seahawks
Alicia one pm today you.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Can find that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I'll put that out at Twitter, g bel Seattle or
Done Distribute dot Com. You after one o'clock will have
that the Packers their top ten and run defense, and
Sunday Night's game at Lumenfield, they play a lot of
too high safety shell, which is what Arizona did last week.
Xavier McKinney, the Green Bay corner, leads the league in
interceptions with seven. Seahawks offense corner Ryan Grebb talked yesterday
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about Geno Smith, quarterback, perhaps not throwing the ball deep
into that deep zone covers with the Packers.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Just like Gino said, I think you have to respect
the things that they do well and the players that
are playing well for him. So you certainly have to
know where those guys are at and their boundary. Safety
twenty nine is a really good players, so you certainly have
to respect his ball skills. But I think at the
end of the day, you have to have to trust
yourself that you're gonna make the right decisions in the
right moments. Otherwise, if you say you're not gonna put
the ball down the field and you know you're taking
away a lot of the best parts of our offense.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
That's Ryan Greb talking about perhaps the way the Seahawks
might throw the ball. I think the intermediate game underneath
Chris is going to be where they make their hay
against don't don't throw into the teeth of the deep
zone coverage. That's probably not another game for DK Metcalf.
You know who could have a good game, Chris. If
they throw intermediate stuff is no offense to tight end.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
He could have a good game.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
But I would expect they're them trying to get DK
Metcalf involved early and then if not, jayas Sam will
probably do what he does every week. The Rams last
night and proved to eight and six and move a
half game behind the Seahawks atop the NFC West. They
beat the forty nine Ers twelve six in the rain
in Santa Clara. That's the first NFL game this season
that had zero touchdowns. Brock Perdy threw an interception to
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LA's Darius Williams. Seahawks fans remember him from up in Seattle.
Williams intercepted the pass in the end zone with five
and a half minutes left. That ended San Francisco's last
chance and maybe the Niners season because I know they're
six and eight now. The Kraken last night man Everett
Fitcher was a busy man on the radio Seattle intercepting.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Here's Corstran.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Oh be Oh my, Oliver, I your extrass got two
and the cracket go up by three four?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
What ten forty two to play in the.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
Third definitely helps getting one early, so you build momentum
off of it and start a game off in a
good way. So it's huge. But I mean they had
a pushback. It wasn't by no means easy tonight. We
had to battle for it. But no, it's nice kidding.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
The first one be able to be put out there
and play meaningful minutes, to play a lot of minutes
and you'll be able to contribute offensively. He is always
something that you know feels good for sure. So yeah,
like I said, just kind of keep building off it
and keep having from Joiner.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Yeah, I'm going to dedicate that when to miss the
Bondman because I found him. I don't think we will
be here, but yeah, and Sam like Bonderman family, what
they've done for the city and for us is incredible, so.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
Really solid, really good pret your description. Best outing of
the year. I would say he was challenged a few times.
The power play repelling killed for us. US in particular
there in the first period, a couple one timers that
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we know are dangerous from Posternach that he is over
on real solid and they didn't look like they had
a chance to go in. He was so good on him.
So it was a really really solid, really hard, really
good game from Gorooby and finally we got him to
run support to make that bay off.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Man. Someone shake coach Dan Bousman. They just won five
to one over Boston last night. It sound like he
slept through it. Oliver Burockstra and first of his two
goals last night came twenty three seconds into the game.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's a couple of games now here.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Lately, the Cracking have scored within the first thirty seconds
after having most of the season and even last season
so many slow starts. Borkston is now up to eleven
goals this season. Philip Grubauer, you've heard him talk about
David Bonderman, the founding owner of the Cracking, who passed
away this week, is who he was dedicating the game to.
Grubauer stopped thirt three of thirty four shots. Your Cracking
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dominated the Bruins in that five to one win. A
climate Pledgerina after listening those back to back games of
the Lily Sharks after losing to the bottom Feeding Ducks.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Crack At are four to one and one in their
last six games. Are really weird season. They played Tampa
Bay tomorrow night at Climate Pledgerina six thirty puck Drop
with six thirty pre game show with Mike Betton's seven
puck drop.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
With Evert Fitz.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Who you heard on one of the yorkstren gold calls there.
That's tomorrow night Crack and Lightning here on the home
of the Crack at ninety three point three KJRFM. Also
tomorrow night, the Heisman Trophy presentation is at the Downtown
Athletic Club in Manhattan. It seems to have come down
to Travis Hunter of Colorado Aston genty, a Boise State.
Hunter last night became the first college player that win
the Bneric Award, is the nation's best defensive player in
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the Blittnikoff Award, is the country's best wide receiver. Genty
of course the twenty five hundred yard back with Boise State.
It looks like that's what it's going to come down
to for the Heisman Trophy Tomorrow night. Sitting down with
us now honored to join to be joined by Nate Boyer,
he's the former Army Greenbery, former Seahawks long snapper. For
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you Seahawks fans, had been on the team for a
little bit longer than the last few years. He's sitting
down next to Mario Markuiz. He's the executive director of
government Affairs for the American Legion here in Washington, d C.
Thank you both for joining us. Nate's good to see
you again. I covered you as the Seahawkers little.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh. Yes, the Army Alumni Association said that to me. Nate.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
We've had you on a couple of times here on
kJ R at the Army Navy game. But for someone
who played the sport and who represented the Army in combat,
what does this game represent to you?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Beyond football?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (11:42):
I mean the whole the whole game is beyond football.
I mean, obviously it's an important game for both these teams,
especially the seniors, and they're going to all play their
hearts out and all that. But uh, you know, Mario
and I have been talking about it all day, but
it's it's it's it's the lead up to it. It's
the pageantry in the game. It's the march on and
the flyover and the anthem and then you know who
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gets to sing second, and the emotion down there on
the field, and just the the gravity of it that
you feel in the stadium, and then knowing that these seniors,
you know, this is it. This is their last Army
Navy game. They're both going to play in a bowl game,
but it's not going to be the same as this and.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Probably the last football game in a lot exactly.
Speaker 11 (12:19):
And then they're going to go serve and and right
now with what's going on in the world, they're going
to go to some you know, some dangerous places and
do some very important things. But yeah, it's just, uh,
there's no game like it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You know. I've I've been.
Speaker 11 (12:34):
To three Super Bowls and I think this is my
sixth Army Navy game, and I choose this game over
the Super Bowl every year. It's just it's just different.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You played for the University of Texas. What about when
you were at Texas? Did you know anything about the
Army Navy game and what it was? What It's not
like you didn't play big time football.
Speaker 11 (12:53):
Yeah, well, I served in the military first, so I
really look, I mean I was aware of it and
all that, but I didn't understand the weight of it
until I served. And I remember being at Texas my
freshman year. I'd walked on as a safety and so
I'm in the dB room doing team meetings, you know,
because this is the it's the only game on, you know,
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the last Saturday in the season, and and the dB
coach Dwayna Keena, who's now the defensive back coach at Arizona, he.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Was like, what time is it?
Speaker 11 (13:25):
I said, he said, He said, what are you doing
in here? He's like, you need to be watching the
Army Navy. So I sat in the locker room, thanks
to the lockermom by myself, I just put one chair
up in front of the TV and watched Army Navy
while the the DB's met and uh, yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
He understood you know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (13:43):
Yeah, that was That's the first time I remember really
sitting down and watching it and focusing on it. And
you know, just a few years after that, I got
to go to my first game, and yeah, it's always
it's an awesome experience.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
This is uh Nate Boy, of course, the former Seahawk
long snapper Army Green Rage win by Mario Marquez. He's
the American Legions Executive Director for Governor Affairs. Here at
the Army Navy Game one hundred and twenty fifth edition
on the ninety three point three KJRFM. Mister Marquis for
the American Legion, what does this game represent in the
legacy of the military.
Speaker 12 (14:14):
Sure for me, I'm a I'm a Marine veteran.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Sorry, that's okay. Just remember it. Go Navy for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, sir Equity here, it's great to talk.
Speaker 12 (14:27):
Let me clarify that I am the Legions liaison to
the President of the United.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
States and Congress, so that's all. You know. They like
the Navy too. On your business card, sir, I did.
I did that on purpose, you know.
Speaker 13 (14:40):
Ate.
Speaker 12 (14:40):
Nate brought up some wonderful stories. My first memory was
my first company commander in the Marine Corps, you know,
eighteen year old marine. This guy used to run us
to death as a company would take us to the
pool and swim with We had a towel in each hand.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
We would swim that way.
Speaker 12 (14:55):
This is the kind of training that leaders from the
Army Navy Consortium of this this whole game.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's the level of leadership that we had.
Speaker 12 (15:03):
Tough, physically rigorous challenging leaders that just developed a sense
of responsibility intensity in me that being uncomfortable became the
norm and being just everything is difficult as norm and
the basic standard. And so for me now that I
get to advocate on behalf of all veterans right, all
services here in government affairs, protecting veterans benefits, but also
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advocating for our military and their families so that they
can continue to provide our life of freedom that we have.
That's that's my job, and that's why I love everything
about this game, is because we're here to support our troops.
Even though they're in the academies, they are already essentially
in the military, and I want them to know. We
want America to know, as affiliate sponsor of the game
now that we're all.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
In appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Sir, sir, need you pay attention to Seahawks what they're
up to?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (15:51):
Absolutely, coaching Stavvy five, Yeah, leading the division.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, what do you think of it? What are you
up to these days?
Speaker 11 (15:58):
Well, right now, I'm I'm actually directing an eightieth anniversary
D Day documentary which is really special, and you know
there's a connection to the legion with that as well.
I mean, I was directing my first movie, MVP, about
merging vets and players, which the organization I co founded
with Jay Glazer. We filmed some of the scenes at
the you know, American Legion Post forty three in Hollywood,
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which has you know, incredible Uh. Some of the members
were Clark Gable and Mickey Rooney for example. Well, which
is really cool to have that kind of connection in tie.
And so I'm working on that, and you know, I've
got I've always got a few things going on, a
few projects going on, but the storytelling piece is really
important to me. I think it's it's essential for us
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to do that. And not that only veterans can tell
veterans stories, but we do need to make sure that
we're a part of those conversations and so the story
is told right, you know, and that we're you know,
honored in the right way, and that that these things
aren't forgotten, because it is important because history does beat itself,
and we need young men and women to continue to
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step up and take the oath and you know, defend
what we have here and and try to make it
better every day. But with that coming out of the military,
you know, we need a lot of veterans to do
the same thing back here at home, and a lot
of the you know, the connection and newfound camaraderie an
organization and just having a place like the American Legion
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to come to it's it's super important. And so I
think that that, you know, that's something that that we
can all get behind. I Mean, people always say, I
want to know, how do I support vets? I want
to support vets. Well, I understand that there's institutions in
place and organizations a place that do this, and you
should help advocate for and augment those and and be
you know, an ally for those moving forward because without those,
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you know, I don't know if we have the level
of volunteers and that we have without these outside organizations.
And I'm not knocking you know, the VA things like that,
Like those things are absolutely important as well. But because
of these service organizations like the Legion. Uh, That's why
I think even more of us are you know, willing
to go die for our country because we know that
we'll be honored and our families are get taken care of.
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And if I do make it back and I'm not
made back whole, like, there are places to go where
I can. You know they'll assist me in that transition
and kind of figuring out what's next. Knowing that you
have that support is super important. So without that, you know,
I don't know if we have as strong as a
military as we have.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Pointing words from Nate Boyer here in the Arlington National
Cemetery at one hundred and twenty andy fifth Army Navy Game.
Nate Boyer, Mario Marquz of the American Legion, thank you
both for joining us and salute for all you do.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
For our country. Appreciate that. Thank you very much, thanks
for having us up.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Next, Rich DeMarco play by play man for Army west Point,
is going to join us talk about how special season
bryceon daily twenty nine touchdowns co leading the nation. Then
Sammy Salivan, the captain West Point class of twenty twenty
bronze medalist from this past summer's Paris.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Games, will join us.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
We're going to talk to Dan Quinn, the Commander's coach,
on his way to the Commander's playing the Saints this weekend.
Tons more from Radio Row at the Arlington National Cemetery
the one hundred and twenty fifth Army Game, presented by
us USAA is live on ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast with Greg
Bell and Jessman McIntyre, brought to you by Warrior Injury
Law on Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Welcome back, Greg Bell from the Arlington National Cemetery. Jessmond
McIntyre next to me. She's out running to go find
our next guests. Rich DeMarco, the Army play by play announcer.
You hey from him. You'll hear from Captain Sammy saliv
In West Point class of twenty twenty here from the
one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy Game, bronze medalists
from this past summer's Paris Game as a member for
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the first US women's rugby team to win a medal.
She's going to join us here on set at Arlington
National Cemetery. Were right around the corner from the Tomb
of the Unknown Soldier, right across the Potomac River from
the Lincoln Memorial. We drove past the White House, the Capitol,
and the Washington Monument to get to Arlington National Cemetery today.
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It is a particularly poigned to be here at Arlington
National Cemetery. Every time I have been here as a
member of the military, it has been a very somber occasion.
And the tomb of the unknowned soldier and the guard
that never leaves back and forth pacing in formal uniform.
It represents also a part of this Army Navy game.
They play the game for those who have served and
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who have died in combat. And that's what the profession
of arms actually is. It is the art of war
and the art of killing if you need to defend
our country. And that's what those men and women that
are in the stadium tomorrow put on the line when
they sign up to be West Point Cadets and Naval
Academy midshipman. That is what this game is about. It's
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about the competition on the field, of course, It's about
the fact that Army is twelve and one in the
American Athletic Conference champions heading to the Independence Ball to
play Marshall. It's the fact that Navy is coming off
an eight and three regular season play in Oklahoma in
it's bowl game. It is about that for the players
right now. But what it represents I can tell you
as a nineteen ninety three graduate of West Point. What
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the game itself represents are the values that got these
men and women to where they are today. And it's
incalclable to try to describe what these men and women
do on a daily basis. That is, I'm talking about
the cadets. That is so different than what a college
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student does.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's two full time jobs, and then if you add
being an athlete into it, that's three. That's three full
time jobs while you're in your formative years.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Oh, by the way, keep your grades up enough to
stay eligible and to graduate. And the Army football case,
people say, well, why does Army run triple option? And
why are they so much smaller? If you are a
two hundred fIF fifty pound linemen and you're only six
to two, you have to get down to about two
twenty or two fifteen to fit the Army height weight
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requirement to graduate. They are strict adherents to the Army
heightweight chart on the paper in the grid. If you
aren't if you're six to two, you need to be
two fifteen or to twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And then if you're an offensive lineman defensive lineman, so
what happens you're in the trenches.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You're in trouble, jesse Man. What happens after the season
ends for these seniors. They spend from the end of
December till graduation at the end of May pretty much
wearing garbage bags and running and running and running and
sitting in saunas, essentially to lose thirty forty fifty some
pounds just to graduate and get commission, which is the
whole reason you're there. That's why Army doesn't habitually have
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three hundred pound linemen, and they don't run regular pro
style or regular now new college style offenses. They run
triple option with small linemen who can get out and
pool and get out on an edge and beat everyone
with speed to the corner. That's that's why they run
the triple option. Because of the Army heightweight requirements. Now
Navy and Air Force relaxed some of those restrictions, which
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is why they had had been dominating the Navy, in
particular when fourteenth straight Army Navy games, because they just
had bigger teams. Yeah, and because Navy somewhat waived their
requirement for heightweight, Army never did what Jeff Monk and
the Army coach has done two things. One the biggest
one is that he brought the US Military Academy's prep
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school from Fort Monmouth, New Jersey, where it was when
I attended West Point on to campus on the base
post at west Point. And what that essentially did was
he put you look at the Army Navy game program.
Ninety five percent of his players went to the prep
school now because they use that as their red shirt
year to grow physically, to get in the Army weight
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training program, to be around the terminology, just like a
regular red shirt would do at Wazoo or you dubbed.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Learn the playbook essentially, but you're learning also the military
terminology like you were talking.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
About, right, and you adjust to the climate and to
the academics and all of that right there at West Point.
And then they're twenty two to twenty three year old
kids playing as seniors, physically, more developed, more mature. You're
playing twenty two and twenty three year old six seniors
from Boston College and Syracuse. Now you're not over matched
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as much physically, so Jeff Munkin has turned the prep
school program into a red shirt year fifty so now
and essentially West Point has fifty year seniors, even though
it's a four year program, right, that transformed Army football.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Wow. And since then I never knew that.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Since then, they have won the last three Army Navy games.
They've gone to bowl games. You saw him nationally ranked.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You see him.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
They finished twenty second in the college Football playoff rankings.
They're twelve and one. They had an eight to no
start for the first time in a generation. I've talked
to Jeff Monkin. You've seen me talk to Jeff Munkin
after the game on the field after Army Navy games,
and I thank him for those type of things. I
also thank him for representing the long gray line. And
he always shakes my hand and says, sir, I'm proud
to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And I feel like hugging him right in the middle
of the fifty yard.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Line where you ran out on the middle of the
field with your arms extended.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Your daughter's like, and there he goes. I was standing
right next to her.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
She's like, he's so happy. He's just so happy. And
you could tell like there was no stopping you. Oh, Mike,
I think all the cadets are going to jump out
of the stands too.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
However, Greg is gone. I don't even think the time
I clicked off the clock. By that point that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Was it was a glorious time. Anyway, you were saying.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
That was at the Philadelphia game two years ago, the
first one Jesse attended with me. Yes, and Army won
the game in overtime with a stop on fourth down.
And I Apple Cup actually this year, and I knew
that this. It did like the Apple Cup this year.
And I knew as soon as the guy was stopped
that the play was over. The game was over. But
it took a while for the players and everybody else
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to storm the field. But I I just left and
the security guard, the security guard's running after you.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I said, I graduated here. Don't worry about it. I
just kept running.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
But no, it's a special game. And I hear a
lot of people say, I've always wanted to go to
an MBA.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Do it.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Next year it's in Baltimore. In two years, it's in
New York. They're in a phase now where they are
rotating it more than they usually do. But for me,
for my money, the best place is Philadelphia. The city
is large, but yet small enough to embrace the entire event.
In New York City. It's just one of many things
going on. I've never gone to one here in Washington.
This is the first time I've been to an Army
Navy game in Washington. It's only the second time it's
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ever been played here. But it is different in Philadelphia,
and that's the traditional home of it. That's where most
of the Army Navy games have been played. Army Navy
Tomorrow eleven am. Here the Westwood One broadcast live on
ninety three point three KJRFM. If you want to watch
it on television, it's on CBS Television, starting kickoff at
noon from what used to be called FedExField North West
(27:00):
Stadium in Landover, Maryland, outside Washington, Home of the Commanders.
Speaking of the Commanders. At twelve thirty, We're gonna talk
live to Dan Quinn, the head coach of the Washington
commander of the former Seahawks defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
He's gonna join us.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
We're gonna talk next to Captain Sammy Sullivan West Point
class of twenty twenty bronze medals from this past summer
Paras Olympic Games. He's a member of the first US
rugby team women's team to win a medal.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
She joined us.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Next here Jesson McIntyre and Greg Bell live from the
Arlington National Cemetery radio row for the one hundred and
twenty fifth Army Navy Game on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast with Greg
Bell and Jessman McIntyre, brought to you by Warrior Injury
Law on Sports Radio ninety three point three JJRFM.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Back at the one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Game media row at the Arlington National Cemetery. Fittingly enough,
we're in the women's National Women's Memorial for the Military
here at Arlington National Cemetery, and we're joined by Captain
Sammy Sullivan, who was on the first ever medal winning
team for women's rugby for the United States at the
Paris Olympic Games this past summer.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Captain Sulivan, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 14 (28:16):
Yes, good to see you, good to be here. Thank
you guys for having me.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
And right off the top, you have a hometown tied
your family ties to Samamish, right, Yes.
Speaker 14 (28:24):
I was born in Tacoma. Yeah, my pretty much my
hold outside of the family lives out Samamish shit, So
big Seahawks fans love coming and visiting Seattle. So yeah, awesome,
you guys are here, made the trip out.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, thank you. Well, you know how far it is.
Speaker 13 (28:39):
Oh yeah, Captain Salivan, you're still in the Special Athlete
program for the Army, so you're still on track to
go back to the Olympics for twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Can you tell us first about the experience of being
a academy graduate but serving the Army in a much
different capacity than traditional and what that's right?
Speaker 14 (29:01):
Yeah, So I graduated from West Point twenty twenty and
I did my platoon leadership time at Fort Carson, but
during that I was continuing to train for rugby, and
after my platoon leadership time, applied for the World Class
Athlete Program, which is a program that allows soldiers to
compete in the Olympics. And essentially I've been traveling the
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world and competing internationally with the US rugby seventh team
since twenty twenty two and ultimately got selected for the
Paris Olympic team. So it's been really awesome. I've met
more service members doing this than I think I would
ever have met otherwise. I get to spread my Army
story and ultimately just represent not only Team USA, but
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the US Army every time I step out on the field.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What is your army story is shared of people?
Speaker 14 (29:53):
Yeah, my Army story is I went to West Point
in twenty sixteen, wanted to play soccer there, did not
make the soccer team, so found rugby at the academy
and fell in love with it instantly. Branched engineers from
there and became a route clearance platoon leader at Fort Carson.
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Shout out Marauder platoon was arguably just as fun and
an awesome time in my life as being on the
USA rugby team, just because I love I love leading soldiers,
and I love being a part of a platoon. So
highlight of my life.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
How did you look?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I just go back to you found the rugby team
at West Point.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You're a cadet.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
You're getting up at five thirty, shining shoes, information, going
to classes, all the things we did as cadets. How
did you find the rugby team on top of all
the things you had to do?
Speaker 14 (30:47):
So Bill Leclerk, the coach at the time, definitely reached
out to me. Before I got to the academy. I
had checked on some box somewhere I would maybe be
interested in rugby, and of course Bill check yes, well yeah,
and Bill being Bill, he was like, oh, okay, women,
who's coming to West Point who wants to play rugby? Like,
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let me figure out what her deal is. So during Beast,
I'm not sure if it was the same when you went.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Through Service a while.
Speaker 14 (31:17):
Pretty much every week you could go yes, yeah, test
out or try out for a team. So yeah, I
started during Beast running down to Anderson Rugby Complex, and yeah,
the rest truly is history. I fell in love pretty
much instantly.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
It was a rugby and now she's a bronze winning
medalist for the US women's rugby team. Captain Sammy Sullivan
joining us here on ninety three point three KJRFM from
one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy game.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I am just really curious.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I just respect so much of what you do because
I covered rugby for a really long time.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I talked to you a little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It was great to see at stateside, you know, an
actual league, major league rugby, and I got to sideline
report for it and learn it a lot. But you
went for soccer, So what was it about rugby? Because
I hear the same exact thing from everyone who ends
up playing is they fall in love with it instantly.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What is it about that that drew to you.
Speaker 14 (32:07):
Yeah, you know, I would say with soccer, I was
always a pretty aggressive player by nature.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
That'll do you well exactly.
Speaker 14 (32:16):
So I was like kind of an enforcer, which is
not even a real position, but in the midfield trying
to push people off the ball, and you're not always
celebrated for that in soccer, whereas in rugby it's truly
a game that celebrates all body types. There is a
place for everyone in rugby, and you are celebrated for
being aggressive, and that is exactly who I am on
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the field. So it just, yeah, it was my place.
I felt like I'd found my people.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And in the military you have to be extremely disappoint
and there's got to be a dichotomy there is that
where you just get to let loose.
Speaker 14 (32:49):
Honestly. Yeah, at West Point, that definitely was. It was
an outlet for me to go from you know, military
bearing especially pleabeer, cupping hands, not talking outside why you know,
walking everywhere, to get to go down and kind of
express myself on the field and let out some aggression, definitely,
but now it has since turned into my job. So
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that was definitely a weird transition for sure, going from
college ball to international.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Well, it's like you forked out and then it all
came back together.
Speaker 14 (33:17):
One percent.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
I love that This is the voice of Captain Sammy Sullivan.
She's the bronze wedding medalist at the paras Olympic Games
in last summer for the United States, the first medal
winning team in rugby, and she's an active duty officer
and engineer officer on her way to a command course next
next summer.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It is portlandon Worth, Missouri.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
My classmate I was just telling her he was a
commanding officer at Fort Winnerver, Missouri, and I will drop
General Beckett Christopher Becket line. Yeah cough for you. Let
me take you back to your choice to go to
West Point. You're an athlete of some regard, obviously world
class athlete. Why did you choose West Point as a
seventeen eighteen year old because that is something not everybody does,
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as you know.
Speaker 14 (34:00):
Yeah, you know. For me, I would say I've always
been someone to thrive in a schedule and in a
disciplined environment and going to a military academy was something
that I thought was necessary for me to stay on
top of myself, because honestly, I think if I went
to a regular college, I would not be as successful
as I am today. Just getting that discipline instilled into
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me at West Point was very big for me as
an officer and a person. So that was a big
selling aspect. And then just the just the call to
serve has always been in me. And to see the
level of pride that people from West Point have since
going there and the camaraderie and community you get from
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this school is yeah, kind of unmatched. So that that
was a big selling point for me as well.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I can tell you you'll have it for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yes, the long gray line, I.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Can tell you working with this guy doesn't go away.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Enjoy the game of our I hope you're able to
attend the game. Oh you're on your way out.
Speaker 14 (35:02):
I will be at the game, that is for sure.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
We will look for you. Yes, yeah, are you in
the stands? On the field?
Speaker 14 (35:08):
I think section one on one and then on the
field for halftime. Red she want a.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Bronze, she can go wherever she wants.
Speaker 14 (35:13):
Yeah, I don't even have a ticket.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I'll just like walking.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That is good enough. That is good enough. Captain Sulivan,
thank you for spending time with us.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
All the best to you. Go Army beat Navy.
Speaker 14 (35:25):
Yeah, go Army be Navy. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Captain Sammy Sullivan.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
West Point class of twenty twenty bronze medalists from this
past summer's Paris Olympic Games. A member of the first
US women's rugby team to win a medal. She won
a bronze in the sevens rugby. She told me she
seven's in the fall at West Point. Then she played
fifteens rugby at full of Rugby in the spring, and
then she she basically was on two sports. Yeah, and
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after walking on to the team after losing the quitting
soccer or getting cut from the soccer team, walked on
to the rugby team and becomes in world class rugby player.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
First of the first medaling team. Right, yes to.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Say she's accomplished.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
She's so engaging, she's so charming, and she kicks ass.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Oh, my world class rugby.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
My favorite thing is because I always couldn't stand soccer players.
I know we gotta give to her break because they
took the good athletes from the sports that I played,
and so I love that she wanted to be the
enforcer on the field. It made me so happy to
hear her say that. I'm like, yeah, you you put
on that uniform.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
That is someone I wants defending this country.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
She also put on an Olympic uniform and won a medal.
She was wearing the bronze medal as she spoke to us.
I should have mentioned that during the interview here from
the Arlington National Cemetery. Up next, Mike Mayock, former Raiders
GM in a COLORADUS tomorrow for the one hundred and
twenty fifth Army Navy for Westwood one Sports right here
r KJRF, and you can hear that game beginning with
the pregame show at eleven o'clock tomorrow, one hundred and
(36:54):
twenty fifth Army game.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Mike Mayak will join us.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Next, We're gonna talk to Army Athletic Director Mike Buddy.
I'm gonna talk to him about the fact there is
no nil money on that field tomorrow between the Army
and the Navy, which was just another unique aspect of
the Army Navy game. We'll talk to Mike Buddy at
eleven twenty eleven thirty, we're gonna talk excuse me, We'll
talk to Mike Buddy at eleven thirty, and then at
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twelve thirty we're gonna talk to Washington Commanders. Coach Dan Quinn,
friend of the Jessmon mcintyrey.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Friend of all of us in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
A friend of all of us is a former Seahawks
defensive coordiner. I'll talk to us at three thirty.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Lots more to come from media row of the one
hundred and twenty fifth Army Game from Armington National Cemetery
in Virginia, right across the Potomac from Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
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