December 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Gregg shares some stories of recriutment to Army and shares other fun stories from his time in the Military community. Gregg and Jessamyn are also joined by Mike Mayock, color analyst for the Army and Navy game, he shares his thoughts about this rivarly when he was growing up, and much more. Gregg then catches up w/ Army Athletic Director Mike Buddie, he explains the impact of joining the ACC, why aren't athletes getting NIL deals at Army, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Live from Radio Row in Washington, d C. At the
Military Women's Memorial for the one hundred and twenty fifth
Army Navy Game, presented by USAA. This is kjrfm's Army
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hi, Welcome back. We're in Arlington National Cemetery across the
Potomac River from Washington, DC. I can see the Lincoln
Memorial just at the end of the drive. Here the
Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers right around the corner from
us Jesson McIntyre, Greg Bell, the one hundred and twenty
fifth Army Navy Game. Christopher Kid back in the studios
at Elliott Bay on ninety three point three KJRFM. We're
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going to talk to Mike Mayock, the color analyst for
the game tomorrow and Westwood One Radio former Raiders general manager.
He's gonna talk to us after headlines. Remember twelve thirty.
We're gonna talk to Dan Quinn, the Washington Commanders coach,
former Seahawks defensive coordinator, friend of the Jessemond McIntyre family,
will join us alive on the air exclusively here on
ninety three point three KJRFM from the Army Navy game.
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This is a Washington State Beef commissioned Football Friday Seahawks
and Packers Sunday Night. Big one for the Seahawks now
that the Rams won last night over the forty nine
Ers twelve to six, the Rams improved a six eight
and six half game now behind Seattle. Of course, the
final game of the regular season Seahawks at Rams in
Inglewood last night, twelve six game was the first NFL
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game with no touchdowns. It was in the rain in
Santa Clara. Rock Perty threw an interception into the end
zone Darius Williams with five and a half minutes left.
That was San Francisco's last chance. So the Seahawks have
to win on Sunday night at home against the nine
and four Packers to stay alone in first place in
the NFC West. Remember, the Rams beat the Seahawks earlier
this season in Seattle, and the rematch will be the
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final game of the regular season, and Chris, it really
does look like the NFC West will come down to
that final game on the first McIntire And yeah, that's
gonna be. I think it's gonna be the Sunday night
game to end the season because it's gonna be for
division title. Will probably be the feature game on January.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh yeah, because that's still TBA correct correct?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yea that six days before the game. Thanks at Seahawks
headquarters yesterday, Kenneth Walker trade Brown did both did not
practice again. Walker, the lead back trending toward not playing
on Sunday, hasn't practiced all week in practice last week.
I'm expecting him to be questionable at best, maybe doubt
for or out on the injury report that's due out
by the Seahawks at one o'clock this afternoon. You can
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find that at t bel Seattle on Twitter x or
at the News Tribune dot com. The Packers are tenth
in the NFL and run defense, and they play a
lot of two high safety show coverage and that has
cornerback Zaber McKinney leaving the league at interceptions. With seven
Seahawks offend corner. Ryan Grebb talked yesterday about quarterback Gino
Smith perhaps not throwing the ball deep into his own
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coverage as much as he did. Smith did in the
win last week. It is Arizona. Here's what Greb had
to say about that. I'm sorry we used that last hour,
but yeah, Greb said that he's gonna test. They want
to test the Packers. Then they're two deep coverage, but
they're not gonna throw in the teeth of it needlessly.
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The key to the Seahawks here in their four game
winning street Geno Smith the last two games is not
thrown an interception. He was leading the league in those
at the end of November and now he has had
zero in the last two weeks of Seahawks have not
turned the ball over while beating the Cardinals and beating
the Jets. Of the Jets offenset's just say the offense
had turned over. The special team sure turned it over
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three times against fumbling the free kickoffs against the Jets.
Seahawks Packers five to twenty Sunday Night Football Channel five
locally King five Television. Last night, The krack in fits
you was calling a lot of goals, five of them
twenty three seconds in the goal. Scoring started with Alliver
York Strands first of his two. Last night against Boston
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borgstare is now up to eleven goals. Philip Grubauer stopped
thirty three or thirty four shots. The Kraken dominated the
Bruins in a five and win at Climb a Pledge Arena.
After losing back to back games of the lowly Sharks,
the Kraken are four to one and one in the
last six games, a really weird season so far. Tomorrow night,
the next game of the Krack and home stand is
against the Tampa Bay Lightning six thirty pre game show
(04:30):
with Mike Betton, seven o'clock puck drop with Everitt FITCHU
and Alf Kaminski Here on Your Home with a Krack
in ninety three point three k j RFM. Also tomorrow night,
the Heisman Trophy presentation is at the Downtown Athletic Club
in Manhattan. Seems gonna come down to Travis Hunter of
Colorado asking genty of Boise State. Hunter last night became
the first college part to win the Bignerick Award as
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the nation's best defensive player in the Bolitmaclof Award as
the company's best wide receiver. Genty is a twenty five
hundred yard back in the Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State level
There accidents right now, four tell him when to text line?
Tell us who would be your heisman trophy pick for
this college football season? It would be yours, Jesse Jeometier.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Earlier in the year, I have him in you know,
the three four kind of area, maybe like top five,
like three four five, but it's.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
For me, it's genty fer percent.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I don't have a boat, but Chris, who would do?
Would be your heisman? Chris Travis Hunter. He's played ninety
seven percent of the snaps and he was the defensive
player of the year and the best wide receiver college
football this year.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Ninety seven percent of the snaps. The NFL scouts that
I've talked to you said that they think he's going
to be a defensive back over a wide receiver in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, yeah, it's hard to it's hard to compete
with that. I'm just watching genty a close in person.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh you saw N one is the reason.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That they are a playoff team, and I mean no
offense to everyone else on that team.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I know they contributed, but he is the reason.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
They would be undefeated and Moregan would not be number
one if they boise stated, given Genty the ball at
the end of the beginning of Eugene, and I was
watching that game, going what are you doing? It was
a tie game and they quit running the ball. I
don't know, and Boise State threw in the fourth quarter.
Oregon took the ended up kicking a field goal to
win on the last play. They would not be number
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one in the country if they had given Genty the
ball at the end of that game in Eugene. Way
back in September. Your weekend slate of games here on
ninety three point three KJRFM. The one hundred and twenty
fifth Army Navy game is the only one you really
need to listen to. Everything else you could just go
out and walk your dog and money. Westwood One's got
the broadcast tomorrow pregame show at eleven am twelve noon
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kickoff if you don't want to watch it on television's
on CBS. The Kraken versus Tampa Bay, as I mentioned,
is a seven o'clock puck drop of a six to
thirty pregame show with Mike Benton here on KJRFM Sunday,
We've got dan Quinn's Commanders. We're going to talk to
Dan Quinn live from Washington at three to twelve thirty
Pacific three thirty here in Washington today on the show.
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Dan Quinn's Commanders are in a PLAYFFS spot right now
at eight and five. They play at the New Orleans
Saints on Sunday at ten am on kJ RFM, and
then at one pm here on the station the ten
and three Bills at the twelve and one Lions, and
then around eight thirty on Sunday night, right after the
Seahawks game ends our weekly Seahawks postgame show with Dick
Faine and Hume Millen live from Jimmy's. On First, let
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me explain something about the Factor fiction playoff. Gerald Busk
and Kelly Venzil tied with one hundred and forty three
correct picks each. That's a lot of quick But it
was a thirteen week contest. That's a Lotte fourteen. That's
ten a week.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's they played every time slot.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
They're batting like five hundred if you two every time slot.
But anyway, Jerald Busk and Kelly Vencil tied with one
hundred and forty three correct picks. So the tiebreaker, the
way we do it is that now Gerald and Kelly
are going to each pick every NFL game this weekend
against the spread the most. The person with the most
correct picks will win the ten thousand grand prize from
the Emerald Queen Casino, the betting and entertainment capital of
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the Northwest. And yes, we do have a procedure if
they still are tied after that, we need to get
into that.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But total over time if we have to, Yes, yeah,
this is actually pretty interesting because that many correct picks.
I'm shocked that we actually have a tie. So that'll
be pretty interesting. It'll be pretty each like an NBA game.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It goes overtime tied at one forty three, it's like
an NBA.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
All Star game.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That is well, thanks for listening, both of you guys,
because that's a lot of listening, is a lot of playing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That is a lot of listening for Joe Buss, Kelly
Bensel maybe one of them close for the sixty five
inch television We were given away for listening too. Back
here at the Army Navy game. And briefly I would
I've had people in the text line asked the question
and we talked about it with Captain Sammy Sullivan, the
Rugby bronze medalists that we just talked to last segment.
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But the day in the life of a cadet, and
it pretty much is the same for the Air Force Academy,
although they have privileges in their zoomies and it's a
lot easier, And also for the Naval Academy, the squids
are pretty much the same way. At the United States
Militarch Camba. You get up pretty much every weekday around
zero five thirty five forty five. You have a zero
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six thirty formation. So between the four five point forty
five and six am six thirty, you're shining your shoes,
you're polishing your brass. If you're a plea but freshman,
you're reciting learning knowledge. You're reading the New York Times
front page and sports page because you can be quizzed
on that. You're studying the daily menus, because you be
quizzed on that how many days there are to the
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Army Navy game, how many days there are to five
hundredth night, which is five hundred days At the academy,
how many days are there until one hundredth night for
the juniors at one hundred nights until they graduate ring
weekend Christmas break. You got to know the day that
bell the days? Sure are the days? Today it is
blah blah blah. There are twenty five days until Army
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beats the hell out of Navy. There are twenty seven
days until Christmas Break.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
You have to do that every day.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Wow. So then you have the menus, sir for breakfast
today is hash brown potatoes, rotos are grout and blah blah.
So you go to formation. You eat as an entire core,
forty four hundred cadets eat in the mess hall at
the same time Washington Hall. There have been famous speeches
from MacArthur, from world leaders patent in that mess hall
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Washington Hall. Forty four hundred cadets and the separate wings
eat at the same time family style, a huge staff
that brings out the food and family style buffece of
family style at the table. Then after that you go
pick up your books and you go to class and
the classes run from seven to forty five until your
lunch Formation and classes could be physics, astrophysics, aerodynamics. It's
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an engineering school. It was it got its first degrees,
and they only gave engineering degrees for the longest time.
But everyone has to take an engineering track. I took
systems engineering, planning and efficiency. There's electrical engineering, mechanical engineering,
chemical engineering, you name it. You take those courses. You
have a lunch period. You also take boxing mandatory as
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at West Point Cadet. If you're a woman, you take combatives,
and then they made me take boxing. Now I'm bating myself.
Then you change and you go out of gym class
to physics. I took boxing, got my head wrung for
forty five minutes, and then went straight to physics.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Learn physics. How much does that retained?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't know how I got out of both classes,
but I passed. Then you get a lunch formation, and
if you're a plea, you gotta do the same thing again.
You stand under the clocks in the hallway and you
have to announce the minutes.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
There are seven minutes remaining until lunch formation. The uniform
is white over gray. The meal the menu is rib
SAYDW blah blah blah, and.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
If you screw that up, you get screamed at by
the upper classman. Too. When you're in the hallway doing that,
you go out in formation and get if you're a plea,
you get yelled at some more information. You go into
the lunch hall and again you have a forty four
hundred cadets eating lunch together. After lunch, you go back
to class from twelve thirty until sixteen hundred four o'clock.
At four o'clock, you either go to intercollegiate athletics ORF
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you're a varsity player, intermural athletics on every other day.
If you're not a varsity player, and if it's not
your day to have intermural athletics, you go march three
days a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday with marching days.
Tuesday and Thursday were in a mural days. And you
go out on the plane rain or shine, dark, doesn't matter.
You're out on the plane holding your parade ceremonial rifle
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without a charging handle a charging pin in it, and
you do get screamed at bell third row back right,
you're out of step or your rifle's not canted. Then
you go to dinner, then you have to study, and
then your lights out. As at twenty three hundred and
taps is twenty three thirty and then you get up
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at five am you do it all again. And Captain
Sammy Salomon did that on top of playing rugby two
seasons out of the year, on top of graduating as
an engineer officer getting commissioned. That is a day in
the life of a West Point cadet for four years,
pretty much every day except Sunday at West Point. Join
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now by Mike Mayock. Please for you to be joining us, sir,
my pleasure.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
From a Raiders GM Philadelphia native. If I'm not mistaken, correct,
so you know about the Army Navy game. You'll be
broadcasting the game tomorrow for Westwood one Radio right here
on ninety three point three KJRFM. We're talking to Mike
Mayock from the Arlington National Cemetery. Growing up in Philadelphia,
what was your appreciation for the Army Davy game as
just a citizen?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Crazy important.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
My dad was a high school and college coach, so
when I was eight or nine years old, he was
the offensive line coach at the University of benn And
in our house, it was kind of all about every year,
the respect for both teams, and it wasn't you were
an Army fan or you were a Navy fan, but
it was kind of a respect for the tradition and
the history. And I'm in those days, I could have
talked Roger Stallback and Joe Blee, you know, and the
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lonesome end and the Heisman Trophy winners for both sides.
I mean, so I kind of grew up that way,
and I ended up going to Boston College and playing there,
and I played against all free service academies my senior
year and I hated every minute of it. I literally
hated every minute of it. I was a defensive back,
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and you got those one hundred and seventy two bound
slot backs just gnawing at your knees all day long.
And they were the toughest, most well coached teams we'd
face every year.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You'd rather play Notre Dame than Army Navy Air Force.
Hell yeah, Mike back from a Raiders gentleman for as
you just heard from her Boston College, Toway, Philadelphia, NA.
I'm joining us here on ninety three point three KJFM
from one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy game. You're
broadcasting the game tomorrow. It's one of the most highly
anticipated ones with two teams with the combined records might
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be the highest in the generation twelve and one Army,
eight and three Navy. What strikes me my from watching
this game every year is that this year both teams
have excellent quarterback play. Now that Navy's quarterback is back healthy,
how are you handicapping how this is going to go tomorrow?
Speaker 8 (15:10):
I think that's a great question because we always saw quarterbacks,
but in this game a lot of times you just
kind of get those tough kids that make good decisions
in the option game, and you know, and and and
they're smart, they're tough. But this is a little different
this year. To your point, uh, the kid from Army
is like a two hundred and thirty pound running.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Back Bryson Daily Bryce twenty nine touchdowns, co leading league
with Gentiet Boys. You stay for most rushing touchdowns in
the country.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
And you're rooting for who.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm a ninety three
West Point It's given away. I'm wearing it on my chest. Literally.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
We're just talking about you having to know menus. But
you were a please and now all of a sudden,
oh yeah, you mean thirty one touchdowns time, No.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I think that yeah, And bryceon Dale like, they throw
the ball eight times a game, and what people don't
understand and as the former defensive back, like, I watched
the game against the AAC championship game left week. They
didn't throw a pass in the first half and they
score three touchdowns. It's twenty one to seven and a half,
and they haven't thrown a frigging pass against a team
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that's more talented than they are.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And people say, well, how can that happen?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
How can they?
Speaker 8 (16:19):
And I go listen, put yourself in the shoes of
a safety from Tulane or from Memphis or from wherever
in that lake, right, and you're gonna go play army,
your navy. Let's take army just because of what you're
wearing today, okay, and they're gonna be sixty five offensive snaps.
An army's gonna throw throw the football three times and
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you don't know which three, right, right, So if you're
a safety, all you're thinking is coming downhill and stopping
option and stopping quarterback sweep and quarterback counter and this
quarterbacks and running ball twenty nine freaking times against you.
So that's all you think about and then you see
the exact on the thirty third play of the game,
you see the exact same out look. You come screaming
downhill to make a tackle and you realize the quarterback
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throwing the ball over to your head to a wide
out that runs like a four to eight forty and
he's eight yards behind you already.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
That's how hard it is for the non academy teams
to play academy teams.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's well said.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
They're so good and so disciplined, and.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That does take it discipline of the opponent to be
able to.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Hang the eye discipline again, former defensive back try and
I think that's one of the reasons why traditionally these
games Army Navy are low scoring, because you take away
a little bit of the superpower of playing a non
academy team who only sees that offense one time a year. Right,
So the eye disciplined thing kind of evens out with
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Army Navy.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But I do believe to.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Your point that the quarterback play is better this year
than we've seen in years, and we might see some
more scoring offensively than we have in the past.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think you're right. I don't think it's gonna be
seventeen to eleven tomorrow because of the quarterback. Navy's quarterback
play is so much better than it was the last year.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
You know what, the Navy backup kid who had to
play against East Carolina two weeks ago, I almost fell
over watching that day. I mean, he for his first
pass and wait a minute, that's different. That's not a
Navy case. So there's been some injuries with the starter Horvaff.
This kid, Braxton Woodson is a talented, talented kid behind him.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You're a former NFL general manager, I'm sure you still
look at the league from apark. What do you make
of Mike McDonald's rookie season and they'll get the Seahawks
in first place with four games left.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Give him a lot of credit because it's been up
and down a little bit. And you know, being a
coach's son, being a former GM, being around the game
my entire life, what I think. And I played for
Bill Belichick and so I've seen that from the inside out,
what that looks like, structure and how to prepare and
situational football. So I always look to see what kind
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of consistency week to week, day to day, and I
think He's managed some tough things as a young head coach.
He's coming out of a system that I love. You know,
I'm a big fan of Baltimore and what they've done
for twenty five years. And what I think is cool
is that, like, take Baltimore and Pittsburgh, same division for
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twenty five or thirty years. They've had two coaches each team,
but the general manager and the entire building know what
a Steeler or a Raven look like and smell like.
The scheme might be a little different depending on the
head coach, but the type of kid you bring in
the building is not a lot different. So Mike comes
out of that background, and I think they're doing a
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really good job just day by day. Nothing's an emergency. Okay,
we lost or we won. Let's just get better each day.
I've been and they're in a division where if you
play complimentary football in three phases and don't make too
many mistakes, you might win that division.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
So it's been kind of fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Wait, you said you played for Bill Boer. I just
suck on it. Yes, go to North Carolina. How surprise
were you?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I was, and I was, And if you had.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Told me.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Three years ago that could happen, I would have been
get out. I think the direction of college football is
more the way the NFL runs their franchises now. So
if you look at the NIL and portal, it's really
no different than free agency, except for there's no rules
and there's no salary.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Gap exactly for all.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
It's the wild wild West out there right now. So
if you put yourself in Belichick's shoes.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
And I was twenty three years old, twenty two when
I made the New York Giants, and he was only
a twenty nine year old special team coordinator and linebacker coach.
And I called my dad and my dad to coach.
I said, Dad, this Belichick. Dude's different and he's special.
And he was and eight Super Bowls later at age
seventy two. I think he's going to go in there
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with Michae Lombardi and run the franchise like an NFL franchise,
and I think they're going to have a chance to
be special. I think he's gonna do a great job.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I do too.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It's funny because you just see this. I don't know
reverse osmosis when it comes to coaching. Some guys are
leaving the game with the college game to go to
the NFL because they can't stand the way of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It does.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
The way you explained it make more sense to me.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Now, Well, it's interesting because I know a lot of
coaches that are my buddies that wanted to get out
of the college game. I mean, look at a Chip Kelly, right,
he takes a coordinator job because he just wanted to
go and coach again. He didn't want to deal with
all the all the nil money and the collectives and all.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
He just wanted to be a coach.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You have GMS.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Now, I was gonna ask you gonna be Bill Pelichick's
GM in North Carolina.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
No, he already Micha Lombardy is, but no. I had
a buddy of mine called me last summer who was
a coach. He's like, if I take this interview, do
you want to would you go with me? And I said,
hell no, no, I'm too old for that one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Mike Mayock, I really appreciate your time. I appreciate you
broadcasting to America America's game tomorrow, one hundred and twenty
fifth thirming game. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I appreciate you, guys, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Go Army beat Navy Mike Mayok here from the Arlington Cemetery.
Up next, Army West Point Athletic Director Mike Buddy. We've
had him on the show every year we've come here.
We have him on again. It's his fifth year as
ad A. Lots to talk about the American Athletic Conference champion.
Army West Point Athletic Director Mike Buddy joins us next,
live from media Row at the Arlington National Cemetery, the
one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy Game presented by
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USA on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast with Greg
Bell and Jesseman McIntyre, brought to you by Warrior Injury
Law on Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Hi, welcome back, Thanks for listening to ninety three fourth
three kjrvm's presentation of the one hundred twenty fifth Army
Navy Game at the Arlington National Cemetery, right across the
Potomac River from the White House, from Washington Monument to
Lincoln Memorial here Washington, d C. We're joined now by
Mike Buddy, the Army West Point Athletic Director for the
fifth year he is ushered in the Army athletic program
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into the American Athletic Conference this year for the first time. Mike,
as always, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah, it's great to see you guys again. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Every year we come here, we have Mike Putty on.
We see what it's done for the football team and
they win the league in the very first year. But
for the athletic department as a whole, what is joining
the Athletic and the American Athletic Association instead of being
independent done for the entire sports program?
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Well, you know, there's been an impact on you know,
certainly our national conversation. Bringing publicity to any anything that
anybody in the Core Cadets does is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
We want.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
We want as much spotlight on the academy as we
can possibly get, and that's great. But you know what
I love about our program and the kind of the
the focus that we have is we'll play anyone, anywhere, anytime.
So it's great to be in the American and it
certainly could not have gone any better. But most of
our kids just kind of look down and lift weights
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and try to get better and then beat whoever is
in front of them on any given day, which is
really simple formula that has really worked for us.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The obvious tomorrow is that both teams on the field,
Army and Navy, don't accept a dime in an IL money,
which is the antithesis of every other college football game
anybody will see, even down to Division III or getting
an IL money. Explain to the listeners who don't know
why that is, why makes these service academies unique and
how you think it may be even a competitive advantage
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for you now?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Yeah, and you know, I would have never expected to
think of it as an advantage.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Two years ago.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
We all thought, you know, maybe the days of the
academies being competitive were numbered now that this was going
to be a professional model. And what we have found out,
and thank goodness, is turns out the discipline and cohesion
and love of your teammates and you know, just the
gritty toughness that we were able to build over four years,
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it doesn't happen immediately, has turned into an advantage because
when you are adding new kids to your roster every
six months, it's really hard to have any cohesion.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
And so we've looked across the.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Field, you know, for twelve opponents and other than Lehigh,
every single one of them has been paying their kids
some sum of money, and yet we've been able to
find a way to come out on top a lot
of times kind of lopsided. So the reason we really
can't participate in NIL is our cadets are considered active
duty and so they are federal employees. They do receive
a paycheck. You know, our soup will tell.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
You that we're kind of the ogs of NIL.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
We've we've been paying cadets since since the dawn of
the academy. It's not much ladies and gentlemen, and Greg
can certainly vouch for that, but they can't use their name,
image and likeness. Their name, image and likenesses. They are
a serviceman or a service women in our army and
that's a full time job.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And the transfer portal doesn't really come into play, especially
for incoming players, because if you do come into a
service compoundy, you have to go back to day one
of pleave year freshman year. That's you know, junior or senior,
fifty year senior, would whatever want to do it, that's right.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
Our portal only flows one way and it's out and
we do have some kids that elect to go that route.
I will say the majority of them are just young
men or women who decide the Armies not for them,
and you can leave after your freshman or sophomore year
at West Point with no punishment, no payback, and that'll
be the case. And then occasionally we do have a
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couple We've had a couple of really talented soccer players
and a couple of basketball players.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
That have done it. But you know, there's a handful
of them over to three years that it's been a
reality for us.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And while we're on the subject of changing college sports,
how does the House Settlement affect Army Athletics minimally?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So we will be part of the defendant.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
The settlement is being paid the two point eight billion,
we'll have a very small, I guess invoice that we'll
have to pay as members of the Patriot League being
our main affiliated conference. So we'll have to pay that
some for the next ten years to settle the House
Settlement if when it's official. But then looking forward, part
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two of that House Settlement is the revenue share piece,
which includes you know, roster limits, and we're taking no
part of that, so we will continue to.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Operate as we have always operated.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
We'll have larger rosters which we can use as one
of the academy exceptions, and we'll not be doing any
revenue sharing, which you know could again be seen as
a disadvantage, but for us, it keeps things simple. You're
not coming to West Point to get a paycheck. You're
coming to West Point to get a phenomenal education and
to serve your country. And those are both non negotiable
because you either get that education or you don't last.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
And you're going to serve a minimum of five years.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
We talked to example today of the Military Academies service
exemption program for elite athletes that can go serve in
that regard. How has that helped Army athletics.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
It helps from a perspective of if you come to
West Point, and we'll use Andre Carter as an example,
who's playing for the Minnesota Vikings. You know, he came
to West Point six foot six, one hundred and one
hundred and seventy five pounds. By his junior year he
had beefed up to two forty and a six foot six,
two hundred and forty pass rushing edge is a pretty
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pretty hot commodity in the NFL. And so what's unique
about Andrea in anybody's case is if you come and
flourish and develop and work and become a prospect, it's
it's an option that you can now pursue. Again, it's
they're few and far between. I compare it to kids
who come to West Point and prove that they're brilliant
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in biology, and the army sends them to med school
because that's the best way for them to serve their army.
Our kids' best opportunity may be to go play in
the NFL. You think about Ali Villanueva, who you know,
played ten years in the NFL mid seven Pro Bowl teams.
I think and was always a constant walking advertisement of grit, toughness, excellence, articulation,
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always a proud West Point graduate, and people that follow
NFL on Sundays knew that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
As a grad, I have to ask, how do you
keep Jeff Monkin on campus and keep North Carolina's of
the world from poaching him?
Speaker 9 (29:06):
Eventually, Well, we keep mind, we have a GPS attached
to him, so I know where he is all times
every day. You know, I tell you, is Jeff's Athletic Director.
I'm thrilled that, you know, it appears that we've dodged
another cycle of coaching changes. As his friend, I'm just
I'm shocked that somebody hasn't just said he's what we need.
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There's no alternative. We've got to pay him what he
needs and bring him here, and and thankfully for our kids,
for our academy, that hasn't happened. He's such a good fit.
He's not chasing opportunity after opportunity. He knows that that
his coaching style is very effective, and he's he's he's
a true version of himself at West Point and he
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can't do that just anywhere. But but if the right
fit comes up, you know, it'll be hard.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
To keep him.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You know, I just want to go back to again
this Mike, Buddy, Army Athletic Director sitting down with us.
Something that you said before about you know, those who
graduate and go on to professional careers, you know, they
are walking advertisements of the grit and everything. And I
love that you said that because there are two people
here I wanted to highlight one of whom we spoke to,
you know, Captain Sammy Sullivan, who is a medalist and
(30:19):
Olympic medalist, and then also you have miss USA in
second Lieutenant Alma Cooper. So I just there's there's all
these different ways. You know, you talk about sending biology
students to med school. I just want to reiterate that
part of it because it's not just the it's not
just NFL soccer, it's not just sports. It's amazing things
that anybody can do.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And then West Points Rhodes scholars every year.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yes, exactly exactly, So I want to thank you for
that because it's it's more than just a football game,
and this is more than just football, So thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Of course I'm glad you got to speak to them
because they are both badass women. They are incredibly articulate,
but also warriors, especially Sammy Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
You talked about rugby quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, so
thank you and good luck tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Beat Navy, Beat Army, Beat Navy, Mikey, Army, West Point
Athletic Director. It's always an under to have them on
every year at Army Navy. Thank you, sir as always
Up next more from the Arlington National Cemetery. The one
hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy Game brought to you
by USAA and locally by Warrior Injury Law. Jesson McIntyre
(31:25):
and I from Arlington, Virginia live on ninety three point
three kJ RFM. Welcome back, Drag Bell, Jessmon Mcintirephony, Arlington
National Cemetery. The one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy
(31:46):
Game brought to you by USAA and brought to you
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of the Jessmond McIntyre family will ride with us and
Greg Bell.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Don't tell yourself short, he knows you.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
At twelve, Yes he does, that's true. At twelve thirty,
we'll have Dan Quinn live on the air here on
ninety three point three KJR. From the former Seahawks defensive coordinator,
we were just talking to Mike Buddy, the Army Athletic Director.
We're going to talk next to Lieutenant General Stephen Gillen.
He's the superintendent of the sixty first superintendent of the
United States Military Academy. My classmate Mike Best joining me
(32:33):
from Fort Worth, Texas, retired Colonel Mike Best.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The rest.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
He was explaining that the superintendent is was in his
company when Mike was a freshman of Plea. He was
three years ahead of him. The superintendent was. The superintendent
is basically the head hauncho of the entire academy. He's
a three star general. He's in charge of everything that
goes on. They also have a Dean of Cadets who's
a one star general who's in charge of the academic program. Yeah,
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they don't just have professors at the Military Academy. They're
usually active duty officers, majors, colonels. It's a different deal.
As Mike Buddy was explaining last segment, Jessman, this is
your third one. Now, what strikes you most about it?
What what do you when you when you have pops
(33:21):
with your friends and telling you about the weekend, what
do you say?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Well, I think it's different because of the location. Every year,
so and everything has such historic importance, and this one
is extremely special. Obviously being in the nation's capital and specifically,
you know, on a personal level, being you know, in
the women's part of Arlington Memorial Cemetery, and you know,
and then just you know, looking outside the Forgotten Soldier.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Mind rather just sent you a VI just the tomb
of the unknown Soldiers. Yeah, guard parading back.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And forth, exactly, the guard that never stops walking. And yeah,
and you know he went and saw the Kennedy's graves.
This there's so much historic importance here. And I felt
the same way when we were in Boston. I felt
the same way when we were in Philadelphia. Each city
has its specific importance. But this is obviously I'm talking
to Pentagon members.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You know that the Secretary, the Secretary of the Army
is three about twenty feet to my left. Right now.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Don't say that too loud because she's heavily guarded. Don't
let them know that you know where she is. I
saw these I saw the Secret Service doing a sweep earlier.
I know, I know what they look like. I've seen
it before, and I was like, someone's coming. And then
I saw her walk in because I got to run
into her last year not physically.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Retired Colonel Michael J. Best Is sitting right across the desk.
Now best, Mike and I were company mates and f
four frogs. He's a classman of mine. From nineteen ninety three,
Mike and I covered we we were Army basketball. Can
you imagine that that was about thirty five years ago?
We get Army basketball games. We drove when we were seniors.
(34:55):
It was the only year we're allowed to have our
own cars, and we drove to Colgate in Hamilton, New York,
upstate New York and a snow through a snowstorm to
broadcast an Army culture game.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
They may have you note that Greg was asleep for
that ride.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
At home in blowing snowstorm and not at all. Greg
was out like a light and wakes up at the
academy gate and was like, well that wasn't so bad, Mike.
Army Navy games, what what? What memories? What did it
mean to you?
Speaker 10 (35:24):
They're so special? I mean, there's just no way else
to describe it. Especially I was thinking earlier today when
knowing that you were on the radio today, what, especially
when you're deployed, I mean, got to listen to or
watch Army Navy games while you're deployed. Just uh, just
brings a sense of motivation and UH and a great
deal of camaraderie amongst everyone when when Army takes the field.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And you would know you were deployed multiple times in
your Army career because aviation and logistics for the US
Army and retired as a colonel. Great friend of mine
lives at Fort Worth, Texas. Now we are keeping a
three star general waiting, Lieutenant General Steven an Episode. He
will join us next from Arlington National Cemetery at the
one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy Game, brought to
(36:06):
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Live from Radio Row in Washington, d C. At the
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Hi, Welcome back. We're in Arlington National Cemetery across the
Potomac River from Washington, DC. I can see the Lincoln
Memorial just at the end of the drive. Here the
Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers right around the corner from
us Jesson McIntyre, Greg Bell, the one hundred and twenty
fifth Army Navy Game. Christopher Kid back in the studios
at Elliott Bay on ninety three point three KJRFM. We're
(00:57):
going to talk to Mike Mayock, the color analyst for
the game tomorrow and Westwood One Radio former Raiders general manager.
He's gonna talk to us after headlines. Remember twelve thirty.
We're gonna talk to Dan Quinn, the Washington Commanders coach,
former Seahawks defensive coordinator, friend of the Jessemond McIntyre family,
will join us alive on the air exclusively here on
ninety three point three KJRFM from the Army Navy game.
(01:21):
This is a Washington State Beef commissioned Football Friday Seahawks
and Packers Sunday Night. Big one for the Seahawks now
that the Rams won last night over the forty nine
Ers twelve to six, the Rams improved a six eight
and six half game now behind Seattle. Of course, the
final game of the regular season Seahawks at Rams in
Inglewood last night, twelve six game was the first NFL
(01:43):
game with no touchdowns. It was in the rain in
Santa Clara. Rock Perty threw an interception into the end
zone Darius Williams with five and a half minutes left.
That was San Francisco's last chance. So the Seahawks have
to win on Sunday night at home against the nine
and four Packers to stay alone in first place in
the NFC West. Remember, the Rams beat the Seahawks earlier
this season in Seattle, and the rematch will be the
(02:05):
final game of the regular season, and Chris, it really
does look like the NFC West will come down to
that final game on the first McIntire And yeah, that's
gonna be. I think it's gonna be the Sunday night
game to end the season because it's gonna be for
division title. Will probably be the feature game on January.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh yeah, because that's still TBA correct correct?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yea that six days before the game. Thanks at Seahawks
headquarters yesterday, Kenneth Walker trade Brown did both did not
practice again. Walker, the lead back trending toward not playing
on Sunday, hasn't practiced all week in practice last week.
I'm expecting him to be questionable at best, maybe doubt
for or out on the injury report that's due out
by the Seahawks at one o'clock this afternoon. You can
(02:45):
find that at t bel Seattle on Twitter x or
at the News Tribune dot com. The Packers are tenth
in the NFL and run defense, and they play a
lot of two high safety show coverage and that has
cornerback Zaber McKinney leaving the league at interceptions. With seven
Seahawks offend corner. Ryan Grebb talked yesterday about quarterback Gino
Smith perhaps not throwing the ball deep into his own
(03:05):
coverage as much as he did. Smith did in the
win last week. It is Arizona. Here's what Greb had
to say about that. I'm sorry we used that last hour,
but yeah, Greb said that he's gonna test. They want
to test the Packers. Then they're two deep coverage, but
they're not gonna throw in the teeth of it needlessly.
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The key to the Seahawks here in their four game
winning street Geno Smith the last two games is not
thrown an interception. He was leading the league in those
at the end of November and now he has had
zero in the last two weeks of Seahawks have not
turned the ball over while beating the Cardinals and beating
the Jets. Of the Jets offenset's just say the offense
had turned over. The special team sure turned it over
(03:47):
three times against fumbling the free kickoffs against the Jets.
Seahawks Packers five to twenty Sunday Night Football Channel five
locally King five Television. Last night, The krack in fits
you was calling a lot of goals, five of them
twenty three seconds in the goal. Scoring started with Alliver
York Strands first of his two. Last night against Boston
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borgstare is now up to eleven goals. Philip Grubauer stopped
thirty three or thirty four shots. The Kraken dominated the
Bruins in a five and win at Climb a Pledge Arena.
After losing back to back games of the lowly Sharks,
the Kraken are four to one and one in the
last six games, a really weird season so far. Tomorrow night,
the next game of the Krack and home stand is
against the Tampa Bay Lightning six thirty pre game show
(04:30):
with Mike Betton, seven o'clock puck drop with Everitt FITCHU
and Alf Kaminski Here on Your Home with a Krack
in ninety three point three k j RFM. Also tomorrow night,
the Heisman Trophy presentation is at the Downtown Athletic Club
in Manhattan. Seems gonna come down to Travis Hunter of
Colorado asking genty of Boise State. Hunter last night became
the first college part to win the Bignerick Award as
(04:51):
the nation's best defensive player in the Bolitmaclof Award as
the company's best wide receiver. Genty is a twenty five
hundred yard back in the Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State level
There accidents right now, four tell him when to text line?
Tell us who would be your heisman trophy pick for
this college football season? It would be yours, Jesse Jeometier.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Earlier in the year, I have him in you know,
the three four kind of area, maybe like top five,
like three four five, but it's.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
For me, it's genty fer percent.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I don't have a boat, but Chris, who would do?
Would be your heisman? Chris Travis Hunter. He's played ninety
seven percent of the snaps and he was the defensive
player of the year and the best wide receiver college
football this year.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Ninety seven percent of the snaps. The NFL scouts that
I've talked to you said that they think he's going
to be a defensive back over a wide receiver in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, yeah, it's hard to it's hard to compete
with that. I'm just watching genty a close in person.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh you saw N one is the reason.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That they are a playoff team, and I mean no
offense to everyone else on that team.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I know they contributed, but he is the reason.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
They would be undefeated and Moregan would not be number
one if they boise stated, given Genty the ball at
the end of the beginning of Eugene, and I was
watching that game, going what are you doing? It was
a tie game and they quit running the ball. I
don't know, and Boise State threw in the fourth quarter.
Oregon took the ended up kicking a field goal to
win on the last play. They would not be number
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one in the country if they had given Genty the
ball at the end of that game in Eugene. Way
back in September. Your weekend slate of games here on
ninety three point three KJRFM. The one hundred and twenty
fifth Army Navy game is the only one you really
need to listen to. Everything else you could just go
out and walk your dog and money. Westwood One's got
the broadcast tomorrow pregame show at eleven am twelve noon
(06:36):
kickoff if you don't want to watch it on television's
on CBS. The Kraken versus Tampa Bay, as I mentioned,
is a seven o'clock puck drop of a six to
thirty pregame show with Mike Benton here on KJRFM Sunday,
We've got dan Quinn's Commanders. We're going to talk to
Dan Quinn live from Washington at three to twelve thirty
Pacific three thirty here in Washington today on the show.
(06:57):
Dan Quinn's Commanders are in a PLAYFFS spot right now
at eight and five. They play at the New Orleans
Saints on Sunday at ten am on kJ RFM, and
then at one pm here on the station the ten
and three Bills at the twelve and one Lions, and
then around eight thirty on Sunday night, right after the
Seahawks game ends our weekly Seahawks postgame show with Dick
Faine and Hume Millen live from Jimmy's. On First, let
(07:19):
me explain something about the Factor fiction playoff. Gerald Busk
and Kelly Venzil tied with one hundred and forty three
correct picks each. That's a lot of quick But it
was a thirteen week contest. That's a Lotte fourteen. That's
ten a week.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's they played every time slot.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
They're batting like five hundred if you two every time slot.
But anyway, Jerald Busk and Kelly Vencil tied with one
hundred and forty three correct picks. So the tiebreaker, the
way we do it is that now Gerald and Kelly
are going to each pick every NFL game this weekend
against the spread the most. The person with the most
correct picks will win the ten thousand grand prize from
the Emerald Queen Casino, the betting and entertainment capital of
(07:58):
the Northwest. And yes, we do have a procedure if
they still are tied after that, we need to get
into that.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But total over time if we have to, Yes, yeah,
this is actually pretty interesting because that many correct picks.
I'm shocked that we actually have a tie. So that'll
be pretty interesting. It'll be pretty each like an NBA game.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It goes overtime tied at one forty three, it's like
an NBA.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
All Star game.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That is well, thanks for listening, both of you guys,
because that's a lot of listening, is a lot of playing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That is a lot of listening for Joe Buss, Kelly
Bensel maybe one of them close for the sixty five
inch television We were given away for listening too. Back
here at the Army Navy game. And briefly I would
I've had people in the text line asked the question
and we talked about it with Captain Sammy Sullivan, the
Rugby bronze medalists that we just talked to last segment.
(08:47):
But the day in the life of a cadet, and
it pretty much is the same for the Air Force Academy,
although they have privileges in their zoomies and it's a
lot easier, And also for the Naval Academy, the squids
are pretty much the same way. At the United States
Militarch Camba. You get up pretty much every weekday around
zero five thirty five forty five. You have a zero
(09:08):
six thirty formation. So between the four five point forty
five and six am six thirty, you're shining your shoes,
you're polishing your brass. If you're a plea but freshman,
you're reciting learning knowledge. You're reading the New York Times
front page and sports page because you can be quizzed
on that. You're studying the daily menus, because you be
quizzed on that how many days there are to the
(09:30):
Army Navy game, how many days there are to five
hundredth night, which is five hundred days At the academy,
how many days are there until one hundredth night for
the juniors at one hundred nights until they graduate ring
weekend Christmas break. You got to know the day that
bell the days? Sure are the days? Today it is
blah blah blah. There are twenty five days until Army
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beats the hell out of Navy. There are twenty seven
days until Christmas Break.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
You have to do that every day.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Wow. So then you have the menus, sir for breakfast
today is hash brown potatoes, rotos are grout and blah blah.
So you go to formation. You eat as an entire core,
forty four hundred cadets eat in the mess hall at
the same time Washington Hall. There have been famous speeches
from MacArthur, from world leaders patent in that mess hall
(10:19):
Washington Hall. Forty four hundred cadets and the separate wings
eat at the same time family style, a huge staff
that brings out the food and family style buffece of
family style at the table. Then after that you go
pick up your books and you go to class and
the classes run from seven to forty five until your
lunch Formation and classes could be physics, astrophysics, aerodynamics. It's
(10:44):
an engineering school. It was it got its first degrees,
and they only gave engineering degrees for the longest time.
But everyone has to take an engineering track. I took
systems engineering, planning and efficiency. There's electrical engineering, mechanical engineering,
chemical engineering, you name it. You take those courses. You
have a lunch period. You also take boxing mandatory as
(11:05):
at West Point Cadet. If you're a woman, you take combatives,
and then they made me take boxing. Now I'm bating myself.
Then you change and you go out of gym class
to physics. I took boxing, got my head wrung for
forty five minutes, and then went straight to physics.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Learn physics. How much does that retained?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I don't know how I got out of both classes,
but I passed. Then you get a lunch formation, and
if you're a plea, you gotta do the same thing again.
You stand under the clocks in the hallway and you
have to announce the minutes.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
There are seven minutes remaining until lunch formation. The uniform
is white over gray. The meal the menu is rib
SAYDW blah blah blah, and.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
If you screw that up, you get screamed at by
the upper classman. Too. When you're in the hallway doing that,
you go out in formation and get if you're a plea,
you get yelled at some more information. You go into
the lunch hall and again you have a forty four
hundred cadets eating lunch together. After lunch, you go back
to class from twelve thirty until sixteen hundred four o'clock.
At four o'clock, you either go to intercollegiate athletics ORF
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you're a varsity player, intermural athletics on every other day.
If you're not a varsity player, and if it's not
your day to have intermural athletics, you go march three
days a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday with marching days.
Tuesday and Thursday were in a mural days. And you
go out on the plane rain or shine, dark, doesn't matter.
You're out on the plane holding your parade ceremonial rifle
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without a charging handle a charging pin in it, and
you do get screamed at bell third row back right,
you're out of step or your rifle's not canted. Then
you go to dinner, then you have to study, and
then your lights out. As at twenty three hundred and
taps is twenty three thirty and then you get up
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at five am you do it all again. And Captain
Sammy Salomon did that on top of playing rugby two
seasons out of the year, on top of graduating as
an engineer officer getting commissioned. That is a day in
the life of a West Point cadet for four years,
pretty much every day except Sunday at West Point. Join
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now by Mike Mayock. Please for you to be joining us, sir,
my pleasure.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
From a Raiders GM Philadelphia native. If I'm not mistaken, correct,
so you know about the Army Navy game. You'll be
broadcasting the game tomorrow for Westwood one Radio right here
on ninety three point three KJRFM. We're talking to Mike
Mayock from the Arlington National Cemetery. Growing up in Philadelphia,
what was your appreciation for the Army Davy game as
just a citizen?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Crazy important.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
My dad was a high school and college coach, so
when I was eight or nine years old, he was
the offensive line coach at the University of benn And
in our house, it was kind of all about every year,
the respect for both teams, and it wasn't you were
an Army fan or you were a Navy fan, but
it was kind of a respect for the tradition and
the history. And I'm in those days, I could have
talked Roger Stallback and Joe Blee, you know, and the
(14:01):
lonesome end and the Heisman Trophy winners for both sides.
I mean, so I kind of grew up that way,
and I ended up going to Boston College and playing there,
and I played against all free service academies my senior
year and I hated every minute of it. I literally
hated every minute of it. I was a defensive back,
(14:22):
and you got those one hundred and seventy two bound
slot backs just gnawing at your knees all day long.
And they were the toughest, most well coached teams we'd
face every year.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You'd rather play Notre Dame than Army Navy Air Force.
Hell yeah, Mike back from a Raiders gentleman for as
you just heard from her Boston College, Toway, Philadelphia, NA.
I'm joining us here on ninety three point three KJFM
from one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy game. You're
broadcasting the game tomorrow. It's one of the most highly
anticipated ones with two teams with the combined records might
(14:54):
be the highest in the generation twelve and one Army,
eight and three Navy. What strikes me my from watching
this game every year is that this year both teams
have excellent quarterback play. Now that Navy's quarterback is back healthy,
how are you handicapping how this is going to go tomorrow?
Speaker 8 (15:10):
I think that's a great question because we always saw quarterbacks,
but in this game a lot of times you just
kind of get those tough kids that make good decisions
in the option game, and you know, and and and
they're smart, they're tough. But this is a little different
this year. To your point, uh, the kid from Army
is like a two hundred and thirty pound running.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Back Bryson Daily Bryce twenty nine touchdowns, co leading league
with Gentiet Boys. You stay for most rushing touchdowns in
the country.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
And you're rooting for who.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm a ninety three
West Point It's given away. I'm wearing it on my chest. Literally.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
We're just talking about you having to know menus. But
you were a please and now all of a sudden,
oh yeah, you mean thirty one touchdowns time, No.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I think that yeah, And bryceon Dale like, they throw
the ball eight times a game, and what people don't
understand and as the former defensive back, like, I watched
the game against the AAC championship game left week. They
didn't throw a pass in the first half and they
score three touchdowns. It's twenty one to seven and a half,
and they haven't thrown a frigging pass against a team
(16:16):
that's more talented than they are.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And people say, well, how can that happen?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
How can they?
Speaker 8 (16:19):
And I go listen, put yourself in the shoes of
a safety from Tulane or from Memphis or from wherever
in that lake, right, and you're gonna go play army,
your navy. Let's take army just because of what you're
wearing today, okay, and they're gonna be sixty five offensive snaps.
An army's gonna throw throw the football three times and
(16:41):
you don't know which three, right, right, So if you're
a safety, all you're thinking is coming downhill and stopping
option and stopping quarterback sweep and quarterback counter and this
quarterbacks and running ball twenty nine freaking times against you.
So that's all you think about and then you see
the exact on the thirty third play of the game,
you see the exact same out look. You come screaming
downhill to make a tackle and you realize the quarterback
(17:03):
throwing the ball over to your head to a wide
out that runs like a four to eight forty and
he's eight yards behind you already.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
That's how hard it is for the non academy teams
to play academy teams.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's well said.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
They're so good and so disciplined, and.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That does take it discipline of the opponent to be
able to.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Hang the eye discipline again, former defensive back try and
I think that's one of the reasons why traditionally these
games Army Navy are low scoring, because you take away
a little bit of the superpower of playing a non
academy team who only sees that offense one time a year. Right,
So the eye disciplined thing kind of evens out with
(17:43):
Army Navy.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But I do believe to.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Your point that the quarterback play is better this year
than we've seen in years, and we might see some
more scoring offensively than we have in the past.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think you're right. I don't think it's gonna be
seventeen to eleven tomorrow because of the quarterback. Navy's quarterback
play is so much better than it was the last year.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
You know what, the Navy backup kid who had to
play against East Carolina two weeks ago, I almost fell
over watching that day. I mean, he for his first
pass and wait a minute, that's different. That's not a
Navy case. So there's been some injuries with the starter Horvaff.
This kid, Braxton Woodson is a talented, talented kid behind him.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You're a former NFL general manager, I'm sure you still
look at the league from apark. What do you make
of Mike McDonald's rookie season and they'll get the Seahawks
in first place with four games left.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Give him a lot of credit because it's been up
and down a little bit. And you know, being a
coach's son, being a former GM, being around the game
my entire life, what I think. And I played for
Bill Belichick and so I've seen that from the inside out,
what that looks like, structure and how to prepare and
situational football. So I always look to see what kind
(18:48):
of consistency week to week, day to day, and I
think He's managed some tough things as a young head coach.
He's coming out of a system that I love. You know,
I'm a big fan of Baltimore and what they've done
for twenty five years. And what I think is cool
is that, like, take Baltimore and Pittsburgh, same division for
(19:08):
twenty five or thirty years. They've had two coaches each team,
but the general manager and the entire building know what
a Steeler or a Raven look like and smell like.
The scheme might be a little different depending on the
head coach, but the type of kid you bring in
the building is not a lot different. So Mike comes
out of that background, and I think they're doing a
(19:29):
really good job just day by day. Nothing's an emergency. Okay,
we lost or we won. Let's just get better each day.
I've been and they're in a division where if you
play complimentary football in three phases and don't make too
many mistakes, you might win that division.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
So it's been kind of fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Wait, you said you played for Bill Boer. I just
suck on it. Yes, go to North Carolina. How surprise
were you?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I was, and I was, And if you had.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Told me.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Three years ago that could happen, I would have been
get out. I think the direction of college football is
more the way the NFL runs their franchises now. So
if you look at the NIL and portal, it's really
no different than free agency, except for there's no rules
and there's no salary.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Gap exactly for all.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
It's the wild wild West out there right now. So
if you put yourself in Belichick's shoes.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
And I was twenty three years old, twenty two when
I made the New York Giants, and he was only
a twenty nine year old special team coordinator and linebacker coach.
And I called my dad and my dad to coach.
I said, Dad, this Belichick. Dude's different and he's special.
And he was and eight Super Bowls later at age
seventy two. I think he's going to go in there
(20:48):
with Michae Lombardi and run the franchise like an NFL franchise,
and I think they're going to have a chance to
be special. I think he's gonna do a great job.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I do too.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It's funny because you just see this. I don't know
reverse osmosis when it comes to coaching. Some guys are
leaving the game with the college game to go to
the NFL because they can't stand the way of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It does.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
The way you explained it make more sense to me.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Now, Well, it's interesting because I know a lot of
coaches that are my buddies that wanted to get out
of the college game. I mean, look at a Chip Kelly, right,
he takes a coordinator job because he just wanted to
go and coach again. He didn't want to deal with
all the all the nil money and the collectives and all.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
He just wanted to be a coach.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You have GMS.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Now, I was gonna ask you gonna be Bill Pelichick's
GM in North Carolina.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
No, he already Micha Lombardy is, but no. I had
a buddy of mine called me last summer who was
a coach. He's like, if I take this interview, do
you want to would you go with me? And I said,
hell no, no, I'm too old for that one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Mike Mayock, I really appreciate your time. I appreciate you
broadcasting to America America's game tomorrow, one hundred and twenty
fifth thirming game. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I appreciate you, guys, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Go Army beat Navy Mike Mayok here from the Arlington Cemetery.
Up next, Army West Point Athletic Director Mike Buddy. We've
had him on the show every year we've come here.
We have him on again. It's his fifth year as
ad A. Lots to talk about the American Athletic Conference champion.
Army West Point Athletic Director Mike Buddy joins us next,
live from media Row at the Arlington National Cemetery, the
one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy Game presented by
(22:18):
USA on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast with Greg
Bell and Jesseman McIntyre, brought to you by Warrior Injury
Law on Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Hi, welcome back, Thanks for listening to ninety three fourth
three kjrvm's presentation of the one hundred twenty fifth Army
Navy Game at the Arlington National Cemetery, right across the
Potomac River from the White House, from Washington Monument to
Lincoln Memorial here Washington, d C. We're joined now by
Mike Buddy, the Army West Point Athletic Director for the
fifth year he is ushered in the Army athletic program
(23:04):
into the American Athletic Conference this year for the first time. Mike,
as always, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah, it's great to see you guys again. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Every year we come here, we have Mike Putty on.
We see what it's done for the football team and
they win the league in the very first year. But
for the athletic department as a whole, what is joining
the Athletic and the American Athletic Association instead of being
independent done for the entire sports program?
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Well, you know, there's been an impact on you know,
certainly our national conversation. Bringing publicity to any anything that
anybody in the Core Cadets does is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
We want.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
We want as much spotlight on the academy as we
can possibly get, and that's great. But you know what
I love about our program and the kind of the
the focus that we have is we'll play anyone, anywhere, anytime.
So it's great to be in the American and it
certainly could not have gone any better. But most of
our kids just kind of look down and lift weights
(23:57):
and try to get better and then beat whoever is
in front of them on any given day, which is
really simple formula that has really worked for us.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The obvious tomorrow is that both teams on the field,
Army and Navy, don't accept a dime in an IL money,
which is the antithesis of every other college football game
anybody will see, even down to Division III or getting
an IL money. Explain to the listeners who don't know
why that is, why makes these service academies unique and
how you think it may be even a competitive advantage
(24:28):
for you now?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Yeah, and you know, I would have never expected to
think of it as an advantage.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Two years ago.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
We all thought, you know, maybe the days of the
academies being competitive were numbered now that this was going
to be a professional model. And what we have found out,
and thank goodness, is turns out the discipline and cohesion
and love of your teammates and you know, just the
gritty toughness that we were able to build over four years,
(24:54):
it doesn't happen immediately, has turned into an advantage because
when you are adding new kids to your roster every
six months, it's really hard to have any cohesion.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
And so we've looked across the.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Field, you know, for twelve opponents and other than Lehigh,
every single one of them has been paying their kids
some sum of money, and yet we've been able to
find a way to come out on top a lot
of times kind of lopsided. So the reason we really
can't participate in NIL is our cadets are considered active
duty and so they are federal employees. They do receive
a paycheck. You know, our soup will tell.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
You that we're kind of the ogs of NIL.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
We've we've been paying cadets since since the dawn of
the academy. It's not much ladies and gentlemen, and Greg
can certainly vouch for that, but they can't use their name,
image and likeness. Their name, image and likenesses. They are
a serviceman or a service women in our army and
that's a full time job.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And the transfer portal doesn't really come into play, especially
for incoming players, because if you do come into a
service compoundy, you have to go back to day one
of pleave year freshman year. That's you know, junior or senior,
fifty year senior, would whatever want to do it, that's right.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
Our portal only flows one way and it's out and
we do have some kids that elect to go that route.
I will say the majority of them are just young
men or women who decide the Armies not for them,
and you can leave after your freshman or sophomore year
at West Point with no punishment, no payback, and that'll
be the case. And then occasionally we do have a
(26:21):
couple We've had a couple of really talented soccer players
and a couple of basketball players.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
That have done it. But you know, there's a handful
of them over to three years that it's been a
reality for us.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And while we're on the subject of changing college sports,
how does the House Settlement affect Army Athletics minimally?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So we will be part of the defendant.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
The settlement is being paid the two point eight billion,
we'll have a very small, I guess invoice that we'll
have to pay as members of the Patriot League being
our main affiliated conference. So we'll have to pay that
some for the next ten years to settle the House
Settlement if when it's official. But then looking forward, part
(27:01):
two of that House Settlement is the revenue share piece,
which includes you know, roster limits, and we're taking no
part of that, so we will continue to.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Operate as we have always operated.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
We'll have larger rosters which we can use as one
of the academy exceptions, and we'll not be doing any
revenue sharing, which you know could again be seen as
a disadvantage, but for us, it keeps things simple. You're
not coming to West Point to get a paycheck. You're
coming to West Point to get a phenomenal education and
to serve your country. And those are both non negotiable
because you either get that education or you don't last.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
And you're going to serve a minimum of five years.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
We talked to example today of the Military Academies service
exemption program for elite athletes that can go serve in
that regard. How has that helped Army athletics.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
It helps from a perspective of if you come to
West Point, and we'll use Andre Carter as an example,
who's playing for the Minnesota Vikings. You know, he came
to West Point six foot six, one hundred and one
hundred and seventy five pounds. By his junior year he
had beefed up to two forty and a six foot six,
two hundred and forty pass rushing edge is a pretty
(28:11):
pretty hot commodity in the NFL. And so what's unique
about Andrea in anybody's case is if you come and
flourish and develop and work and become a prospect, it's
it's an option that you can now pursue. Again, it's
they're few and far between. I compare it to kids
who come to West Point and prove that they're brilliant
(28:31):
in biology, and the army sends them to med school
because that's the best way for them to serve their army.
Our kids' best opportunity may be to go play in
the NFL. You think about Ali Villanueva, who you know,
played ten years in the NFL mid seven Pro Bowl teams.
I think and was always a constant walking advertisement of grit, toughness, excellence, articulation,
(28:54):
always a proud West Point graduate, and people that follow
NFL on Sundays knew that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
As a grad, I have to ask, how do you
keep Jeff Monkin on campus and keep North Carolina's of
the world from poaching him?
Speaker 9 (29:06):
Eventually, Well, we keep mind, we have a GPS attached
to him, so I know where he is all times
every day. You know, I tell you, is Jeff's Athletic Director.
I'm thrilled that, you know, it appears that we've dodged
another cycle of coaching changes. As his friend, I'm just
I'm shocked that somebody hasn't just said he's what we need.
(29:30):
There's no alternative. We've got to pay him what he
needs and bring him here, and and thankfully for our kids,
for our academy, that hasn't happened. He's such a good fit.
He's not chasing opportunity after opportunity. He knows that that
his coaching style is very effective, and he's he's he's
a true version of himself at West Point and he
(29:51):
can't do that just anywhere. But but if the right
fit comes up, you know, it'll be hard.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
To keep him.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You know, I just want to go back to again
this Mike, Buddy, Army Athletic Director sitting down with us.
Something that you said before about you know, those who
graduate and go on to professional careers, you know, they
are walking advertisements of the grit and everything. And I
love that you said that because there are two people
here I wanted to highlight one of whom we spoke to,
you know, Captain Sammy Sullivan, who is a medalist and
(30:19):
Olympic medalist, and then also you have miss USA in
second Lieutenant Alma Cooper. So I just there's there's all
these different ways. You know, you talk about sending biology
students to med school. I just want to reiterate that
part of it because it's not just the it's not
just NFL soccer, it's not just sports. It's amazing things
that anybody can do.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And then West Points Rhodes scholars every year.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yes, exactly exactly, So I want to thank you for
that because it's it's more than just a football game,
and this is more than just football, So thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Of course I'm glad you got to speak to them
because they are both badass women. They are incredibly articulate,
but also warriors, especially Sammy Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
You talked about rugby quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, so
thank you and good luck tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Beat Navy, Beat Army, Beat Navy, Mikey, Army, West Point
Athletic Director. It's always an under to have them on
every year at Army Navy. Thank you, sir as always
Up next more from the Arlington National Cemetery. The one
hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy Game brought to you
by USAA and locally by Warrior Injury Law. Jesson McIntyre
(31:25):
and I from Arlington, Virginia live on ninety three point
three kJ RFM. Welcome back, Drag Bell, Jessmon Mcintirephony, Arlington
National Cemetery. The one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy
(31:46):
Game brought to you by USAA and brought to you
locally by Warrior Injury Law. The game is tomorrow landover Maryland,
the Washington Commanders Stadium and Washington Commander's Coach Dan Quinn
is going to join us live exclusive simply here on
ninety three point three KJR and nobody else in radio
row in the country is getting dan Quinn today. Friend
(32:06):
of the Jessmond McIntyre family will ride with us and
Greg Bell.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Don't tell yourself short, he knows you.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
At twelve, Yes he does, that's true. At twelve thirty,
we'll have Dan Quinn live on the air here on
ninety three point three KJR. From the former Seahawks defensive coordinator,
we were just talking to Mike Buddy, the Army Athletic Director.
We're going to talk next to Lieutenant General Stephen Gillen.
He's the superintendent of the sixty first superintendent of the
United States Military Academy. My classmate Mike Best joining me
(32:33):
from Fort Worth, Texas, retired Colonel Mike Best.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The rest.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
He was explaining that the superintendent is was in his
company when Mike was a freshman of Plea. He was
three years ahead of him. The superintendent was. The superintendent
is basically the head hauncho of the entire academy. He's
a three star general. He's in charge of everything that
goes on. They also have a Dean of Cadets who's
a one star general who's in charge of the academic program. Yeah,
(33:01):
they don't just have professors at the Military Academy. They're
usually active duty officers, majors, colonels. It's a different deal.
As Mike Buddy was explaining last segment, Jessman, this is
your third one. Now, what strikes you most about it?
What what do you when you when you have pops
(33:21):
with your friends and telling you about the weekend, what
do you say?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Well, I think it's different because of the location. Every year,
so and everything has such historic importance, and this one
is extremely special. Obviously being in the nation's capital and specifically,
you know, on a personal level, being you know, in
the women's part of Arlington Memorial Cemetery, and you know,
and then just you know, looking outside the Forgotten Soldier.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Mind rather just sent you a VI just the tomb
of the unknown Soldiers. Yeah, guard parading back.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And forth, exactly, the guard that never stops walking. And yeah,
and you know he went and saw the Kennedy's graves.
This there's so much historic importance here. And I felt
the same way when we were in Boston. I felt
the same way when we were in Philadelphia. Each city
has its specific importance. But this is obviously I'm talking
to Pentagon members.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You know that the Secretary, the Secretary of the Army
is three about twenty feet to my left. Right now.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Don't say that too loud because she's heavily guarded. Don't
let them know that you know where she is. I
saw these I saw the Secret Service doing a sweep earlier.
I know, I know what they look like. I've seen
it before, and I was like, someone's coming. And then
I saw her walk in because I got to run
into her last year not physically.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Retired Colonel Michael J. Best Is sitting right across the desk.
Now best, Mike and I were company mates and f
four frogs. He's a classman of mine. From nineteen ninety three,
Mike and I covered we we were Army basketball. Can
you imagine that that was about thirty five years ago?
We get Army basketball games. We drove when we were seniors.
(34:55):
It was the only year we're allowed to have our
own cars, and we drove to Colgate in Hamilton, New York,
upstate New York and a snow through a snowstorm to
broadcast an Army culture game.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
They may have you note that Greg was asleep for
that ride.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
At home in blowing snowstorm and not at all. Greg
was out like a light and wakes up at the
academy gate and was like, well that wasn't so bad, Mike.
Army Navy games, what what? What memories? What did it
mean to you?
Speaker 10 (35:24):
They're so special? I mean, there's just no way else
to describe it. Especially I was thinking earlier today when
knowing that you were on the radio today, what, especially
when you're deployed, I mean, got to listen to or
watch Army Navy games while you're deployed. Just uh, just
brings a sense of motivation and UH and a great
deal of camaraderie amongst everyone when when Army takes the field.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And you would know you were deployed multiple times in
your Army career because aviation and logistics for the US
Army and retired as a colonel. Great friend of mine
lives at Fort Worth, Texas. Now we are keeping a
three star general waiting, Lieutenant General Steven an Episode. He
will join us next from Arlington National Cemetery at the
one hundred and twenty fifth Army Navy Game, brought to
(36:06):
you by USAA on ninety three point three kJ RFM
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