February 5, 2025 • 39 mins
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football season. We're joined by Hugh Miller. It's great to
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have him on. Hello you, good morning, good to be
with you, guys. Good morning, super Bowl, super Bowl week.
I'm going to ask you off the top, how can
the Eagles do it? How can they end this quest
for three pete? How do you beat Patrick Mahomes in
the playoffs? No one's done it in years.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Well, let me first state the obvious. There's not any
card in my sleeve that hasn't been considered. I mean,
we're talking about in Mahomes, a guy who's on pace
to be the greatest of all time if he can
keep his pace going.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I would just say so.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
I'm not going to give you anything earth shattering in
over the last three years rigulars season in playoffs, when
Pat Mahomes is not pressured, his passer rating is one
hundred and ten. When he is pressured, it's seventy two,
I think the most. And that's you know, you know,
somewhat par for most quarterbacks. But you go back to
the Super Bowl that he did not win against the Buccaneers,
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next Gen Stats had it. You can google this because
I'm gonna it's gonna come out of my mouth and
I still don't even think I believe it, but it's
there in print. Next Gen Stats they tabulated in that
Super Bowl that Pat Mahomes ran sideways or Ford scrambled
around either prior to running or getting hit or throwing
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the ball. For he scrambled fourner ninety seven yards per
the GPS tracker on his shoulder path and in a
thirty eight to nine loss where he looked totally out
class because his offensive line was Now the Chiefs, you know,
they resolve that with the offensive line, and maybe we'll
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talk about that, but that's a factor.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Here's here's a factor.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
That the number one route that he has from a
passer rating standpoint efficiency is crossing routes. Just go back
to the AFC Championship game. Remember all those every time
there's a third down, third medium, those are manned a
man downs, and so the Chiefs really have a whole
bevy of crossing routes. Those are relatively easy throws for
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a quarterback, there's short throws, although you're on the move
and so you have to lead the guy. So it's
not the easiest route in the route treat but it's
pretty darn easy crossing routes one hundred and seventeen. So
you have to have a plan for how you're going
to Some defensive coaches use the words cut cut the
crossing route, So that meaning if you're gonna run Xavier A. Worthy,
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Let's say he lines up on Pat Mahomes left and
he's just gonna run a shallow cross with all that speed,
and then you're gonna have three receivers on the opposite side.
They're gonna try and create picks from you know, Kelsey
and whomever. They're gonna try and create picks. Now it's
not just three receivers, it's three receivers plus the three defenders.
So now if you're if you're in man and man
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against Xavier Worthy on a crossing route, you're you're trying
to sift through not three chiefs, but also your guys.
So you're technically it could be six guys that you
have to wait through. So they're really effective in creating
that and and they get crossing routes even from the
backfield on that third down clinching low burst route which
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is a flat with the running back coming from the
opposite side, and that sealed the AFC Championship game. That
was another example of these. So have a plan for
the crossing routes. You're gonna have to have some type
of zone concepts within man and pass that off the
the A couple of other thoughts. So Cover one single
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high defenses. That that's Cover one Pat mahomes one hundred
and eleven passer rating. The other single high defenses Cover
three A three D four hunder zone one hundred and
five ratings. So remember one hundred and eleven, one hundred
and five on the on the more of the split
safety Cover four and Cover six looks that Vic Fangio
has specialized in. Uh, it's still pretty good, but but
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now it's passer rating of eighty one UH for Cover four,
a eighty for Cover six. So UH, if you don't
know what all that means, it's it's basically the the
uh the inverse. If you say on a on an offense,
you say, hey, where are either going to run or pass?
As a general rule, a defense the like kind uh.
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Binary equation to that would be single high or too high,
and so Mahomes has done better, not surprisingly against single
high defenses. So there's some other splits in there, but
that that's where I would start.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
How big h do you think Saquon Barkley could be
to all of this? Because the Chiefs having faced it
back like him. I think my opinion is if Saquon
Barkley runs wild, they win, and if the Chiefs and
Steve Spagnov will find a way to corral him, Chiefs win.
He could be that important in my mind. How do
you see Saquon Barkley play out in Super Bowl fifty nine?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Well, I think he's the key. I think you're right.
And you know the Eagles are number one in the
NFL in time of possession. You know, the plan for
the Eagles would be that Saquon Barkley is making Hey
now they His number one routes or run scheme split
is inside zone at thirty six percent. That's opposed to
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outside zone seventeen percent. They also run a play called duo,
which is down blocking at the on the strong side
of the formation, but without a polar so it's often
called power without a polar But in any rate, those
those are relatively inside.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Type of schemes.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
And you're running at Chris Jones, right, who might be
the best player on the whole damn field on either side.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's a factor.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Now he does have the speed to bounce it out,
and the big runs that he's had in the playoffs,
they've been to the outside, and and and so it's
not just that Barkley has a speed to get outside,
but now where he's more likely to face dbs, he
can run through those arm tackles with his strength.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And we saw that.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
But I do think that that's that's the key now
against a stack box. That or what I should say
when the eagle let me let me start it for
the third time. When the Chiefs employ a stack box,
the heavy box, they allow opponents just three point four
yards per attempt, they're gonna be enticed to do that.
And the Chiefs have a secondary. You know Trent McDuffie,
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he was a year ago the best slot corner in football. Well,
Spagnola moved him to the outside a year ago. Uh,
you had Trent McDuffie only at twenty nine point six
percent of his snaps were wide. This year's seventy eight
point six percent. And so he can be a wide guy.
You can play a heavy box and and and put
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McDuffie on AJ Brown. Now Devon Smith, Uh, you know
he's a challenge too. But but if you play those
heavy boxes and you're stopping the run with Sakwan Barkley,
now you're getting one on one to the outside with
Devonte Smith and AJ Brown. And the question would be,
it is does Jalen Hurtz have the chops? Does he
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have the ability when he faces those one on ones?
Can he make plays consistently out to the perimeter of
the field, down the field and what have you? To
the outside guys? I think I think if I'm the Eagles,
I'm biting my nails on that question.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So you'd go pass if they go heavy box, you
wouldn't try to ram Barkley in there. You try to
your chances outside one on one.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Well, I think you always are going to try, right,
I think, I think, And you've got an extra gap
with the quarterback in the running, so they're not gonna
just full ten. It's not like, uh, you know, you
go back to Peyton Manning when you know he just
they basically lined up in two formations all game. They're
either going to be in a two by two eleven
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personnel or a three by one. And then Peyton Manning
is gonna read, hey, if you if you show us
a too high, we're gonna run the ball. If you
show us a single, we're gonna throw it. And he
just you know, construct damn near the whole game at
the line of scrimmage. It's not like that there. The
Eagles aren't gonna say, oh, well, if you drop a
safety down the box, that's gonna bottle up our running game.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
We're just not gonna run it. But I think that
if as I.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Mentioned the three point four yards that the Chiefs are defensively,
the Eagles have the best defense in the league. But
the Chiefs are a top three or four. I mean
all the numbers, I'm not gonna give you them all,
but but you said, you know, this is the damn
good defense.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
The Chiefs. They're just not quite as good as the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
But but they if they can stop the run at
some point, you know, get you know, create a second
and eight or what have you, then there's gonna be
times where Hurts is going to try and win in
those single coverage situations.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
I was listening earlier this week when you were on
with the Mayor Ian Forness on Monday, and the discussion
came up about trading DK for Miles Garrett, who once
out of Cleveland. And I know they caught you off
guard in that regard and that saying, hey, you know,
would you make the deal?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Would you make that move?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
And I think we're agreeing that what Miles Garret is
twenty nine, but he's heading to thirty. What did your
research say about edge rudgers at thirty years old? And
would you make that trade? Well, I looked at all
guys over thirty years old. Now, this is just a
really simple exercise. Just how many wide receivers over the
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age of thirty this is that have a thousand yards
or more receiving versus double digit sacks. Okay, and so
you've had one hundred and twelve wide receivers. Let's see
that was that was since I did it since nineteen
ninety four. No, I'm sorry, I did it since two
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thousand ninety four, I thought, because that was the advent
of free agency. But in that duration, one hundred and
twelve receivers over the age of thirty hit the thousand
yard mark, fifty one defensive ends hit the double digit
sack mark. And then when you when you say, okay,
what about thirty two year olds, you go fifty two
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receivers over the at thirty two or old had the
thousand yards versus twenty defensive ends age thirty two or
older had ten. Now you know whether or not one
thousand yards equates to a double digit sack. You know,
I looked at pressures and all this other stuff, but
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in any event, it wouldn't be absurd.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
I don't know if Cleveland would do that, But you know,
I don't ever want to be on the record as
the guy who says trade.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
If you would be the last guy in the p
yeah you say that, I don't know, man, I just
might blow a fuse.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
I might not even be able to drive to the
grocery store if I actually said that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So, I don't know. I got to keep my fuse
box at that air So not trading. DK Metcalf. What
do you think the Seahawks need to do first? What's
their most urgent needs to improve this team? Do you
think this us?
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well, I referenced the Chiefs in that that would have
been the twenty twenty season when Mahomes was running around
in the Super Bowl, right and they got smoked. Well,
Brett Vich, who's one of the best gms in football,
certainly at top five the GM for the Chiefs, he
just said, Hey, look my offensive line's on fire, and
I got.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To fix this.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
And so what he did is he got spent eighty
million dollars on a left guard from the Patriots, and
Joe Toney drafted Creed Humphrey in the second round. Hit
This is all in the same year, hit on Creed Smith,
Trey Smith the right guard in the sixth round, and
so and so they totally sealed that up. Now there's
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a little bit of an astress because they've had some
problems at the left tackle position with Kingsley Sue Tay
I'm sure I butchered that, and then also Wayne Morris.
So they've had a little bit of a revolving door.
They've had to push Tony outside. And by the way
that I think that's a factor potentially in this game,
the idea that Toney the best left guard has because
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of the problems they've switched out to left tackle. But
there had been stability since that Super Bowl in the
two thousand year, there had been stability and it was
all addressed in one year. The Eagles they found themselves
last year after losing six and seven, they had a
fire in the secondary. They were twenty ninth in opposing
passer rating. Okay, in one year, they draft Quinny and
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Mitchell they in the first round. They draft Cooper Jene
in the second round, and they signed CJ. Gardner Johnson.
They totally redo their secondary and they go from twenty
ninth in opposing passer rate the third the Vikings they
had a fire at linebacker and uh they so they
acquired Jonathan Greener, uh Andrew Van Ginkle and Blake Cashman. Now,
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if you're an NFL fan, you know the impact those
three guys had held. Two of them greenerd and and
uh Van and Cashman made the Pro Bowl and Van
Ginkle was phenomenal. So they they they fixed their linebacker problem.
And it was in a concentrated effort, right, And so
I would just say, you know where I'm leading with this.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's no mystery.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
I'm saying you gotta have those are those are three
great examples of just saying a laser focus on a problem,
and I think that the Seahawks need to get laser
focused on their their offensive line problem, particularly in the middle.
Uh In in the manner in which the Chiefs resolved
their three acquisitions in one year, left guard, center, right guard,
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three and boom, they had continuity right through it until
this year where they had to slide tune the out
as I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Would you feel that a draft could do that or
you you think free agency is I think both?
Speaker 7 (19:04):
I think both. I mean, you know you know. I
mean obviously you know Trey Smith. I don't know if
they're gonna the Chiefs are going to franchise him or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But I was going to ask you that would be
an investment that they rarely make. I mean, it'd be
above the Draymond Jones fifty one million dollars sign it
blew up in different sure.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah, and if you I think it was March thirteenth,
I wrote the data down at one point. It doesn't
really matter. But but uh Schnyder said, Hey, I think
teams make mistake. They overdrafted Guard and overpay it Guard.
I'm paraphrasing there, but it's on record. You can you
can look it up. It's easy to find that in
the wake of Damian Lewis's big Yes, it wasn't exactly
in the wake of Damian Lewis and so so look
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that's one of the problems and why I've I talk
about laser focus. I got a laser focus on John
Schnider and the job he's done. I mean, here, when
you look at at the cap that's available, you just
asked me about free agency. Well, there's, uh, the the
tea that has the most under the cap is the
Patriots one hundred and twenty four million dollars under the cap. Right,
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the Raiders are ninety five million under the cap. There's
five teams that are over the cap, and Seattle has
the third at twenty five million dollars over the cap.
There's only two teams that are worse Cleveland in New Orleans,
and we know why Cleveland is so so I just
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think you might be a little bit hamstring and what
you can do in free agency. And I don't know
that they can get a tree smith. So so you've
got a situation where you got a cap. I mean
that's a wide dispersion. By the way, the median is
thirty one million under the cap, and the Seahawks are
twenty five million over the cap, so there's some limitation
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that they're in that type of cap situation. They don't
have an offensive line and they don't have a quarterback
for the future, so I don't know. I think John
Schneider all of his success, we all love John Sneiner.
Who doesn't love John Schneider if you're a Seahawks fan,
But in his first seven years won nine playoff games,
and then in the last eight years is one one
and everything is just kind of plateauing or or you know, receding,
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and so anyway, I don't know that they have the
resources to go get a top level offensive alignment, so
I think that they're just gonna have to do.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It in the draft. Them as are facts I wanted.
I wanted to thank you for all you've done all season.
This will be our last show with you and okay,
and I appreciate everything done and the round table and
everything else. You're the best we'd have in the market,
and thanks a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Well, you're kind to say that you lie like a rug,
but you are kind of say that. I appreciate both
of you, guys, So hammer down and hopefully it'll be
good super Bowl and call any time.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yes, sir, enjoy your bro Thank you? Okay, Hugh mill
and one and only saying I the Seahawks need to
have laser focus on a problem, talking about the offensive line,
and he says, I have laser focus on John Schneider.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
As he talked to about that earlier on the show.
I mentioned some of the things he's done. And Hugh
knows all about it. You know he was as you
mentioned laser focus. So yet no surprise there four.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Nine and tell him what do you text? Sign? It's
game time, it's tally time. Next it'll be time to
readback your text. Be part of the show. You can
react to Hugh saying he's got later focus on John
Schneider and how they're going to fix that offensive line
or anything else you want to talk about. A lot
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point three KJRFM. You know what the music means, trying
to read back to your text, then four nine four
five one to tell them we'll do text line because
when it is game time it.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Is Pulley from the two five to three. I think
Schmider of the problem. Look at the last eight years,
Like Hugh Millan said, yes, sir, since you were talking
Detroit from the fourteen to five, I know they were devastated.
But where are they at right now? Still devastated, hopeful, resilient.
The world is an ending losing both coordinatord is it?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Well, the word's not ending. They have a really really
good team with really really good players, and they've choked.
That's where they're at. That's one way of putting it.
Let's see.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Ummm but oh well, yeah you read you said this
one already. Yes on Jackson Slater from Chris on the
four two five four point h student Newport High School
in Beealvue. Thanks Chris, appreciate that. From the two five
to three, I guy Michael greg gets all of the above.
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Can the new old line game them up? Obviously? Well,
he meant on line coach he said in another one
oh O line coached him up, but the old line
needs fixing. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That was in response to my question and what you
thought as a fan on the text line where they
should improve? What specific positions? All five the interior three?
Are you sold on? Abe Lucas and Charles Cross's the
bookend tackles.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
From the two five to three Kirk Cousins must have
been playing hurt his whole career. I will say with
the Vikings he earlier at the Vikings he was money,
he was nails.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Is that a good career? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:56):
I think he's had a fine career, But right now
it's time to probably evaluate.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You know, it would be funny to have the Orlando
let better on about that. Maybe we can call him
tomorrow and squeeze him in. That's true, he would be
really funny talking about this. He lied to me. He
just lied pretty accurate.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Not sure if this was a discussion yesterday for the
text line, but best Super Bowl performance at halftime was
Prince from the two five to three, So someone remembered
and didn't text him, but they responded today.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I agree from the two five three, totally agree. I
don't even think it's close.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
The Seahawks' biggest need from the two five three is
o line intelligence center, not just someone who can play
the position, but someone who can think the position and
tell the rest of the offensive line up blocking patterns
to use.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's an interesting point because they have had guys who've
been one or the other Evan Brown, for instance, and
they just aren't strong enough, aren't big enough, stronger, but
getting pushed around by nose tackles. Aaron Donald owned them.
I mean that. Or you have a big, strong guy
who hasn't been able to be a blue guy, a
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coordinator of the line and the line caller and all that.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
It's not easy to be good at both. At the
NFL level. This is from the two five three. How
much of Snider's success is because of Pete Carroll. Peter
arrived with a wealth of knowledge top college talent. Seahawk
drafts became mediocre four plus years into that regime.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's an interesting point. It is a theory of a
lot of people that follow the team and fans of
the team that Pete Carroll's recent knowledge of the college
game benefited him greatly in the early years. I mean,
it's a it's a cause and effect relationship, and it's
an easy link to make. And as Carol got further
away from the college game for the years removed from
his USC days, the Seahawks became less successful in the draft.
(26:49):
There were I mean, it may be coincidence, but that
those are facts. The further that they Carol got away
from being a USC job, like eight ten years, the
less successful the Sears were in the draft.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
So I did ask, how many inches did you guys
get a snow Greg made sure that was very clear.
Let's see, so in South Bend five to six inches.
I live over in Beerrie in the West Seattle area. Yeah,
we had about two or three and Queen Anne much
more on Queen where I worked from the two o six.
I heard West Seattle got a couple of inches. Yeah,
(27:21):
we had two to three. But it was they did
a good job of clearing the back roads. It wasn't
as treacherous.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
They didn't do that thing where they just piled in
front of the Mayor's house. Remember that year? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I was like, so we don't go, no love, because
I couldn't get out.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Nobody could. That was that was the two feet year.
Remember that it's snowed two feet twenty inches at Sea tag.
They said, right, that was insane away and the Mayor's
house was the only one pay Mayors Street. Oh, I'm
guessing he's very important. They got voted out right about
six months after that? Is that and the Sonics leaving
that little thing? Greg your brother from another Ohio mother.
(28:00):
Oh ah.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
I learned to drive at fifteen in the snow in
Kmart parking lot in Dayton and ninety nine, there you go.
I lived in Washington Is two thousand and five, and
it's always a source of laughter how this town and
residents of Seattle handle a sprinkle of snow.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Oh h I oh, Although I will say, in Dayton,
it's flat as a billiard table. There are no holes
from hills from Dayton till about Denver. That definitely yeah.
Having a flat where I'm at, the eastern Ohio and
the Ohio Valley, there are a lot of hills in
the Ohio River area. My dad would park our. This
is how I learned to drive the snow. My dad
(28:35):
parked our two door Honda Civic Stick five speed on
a hill by my house, put it in neutral, put
on the emergency break in the snow, snow covered. It's nice.
You go, okay, Greg, go for it. Okay, Pops, they
could two hundred clutch later.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
From the from the two five three, my parents are
living in Graham. They got nothing out there. Uh well,
didn't you already have snow prior to that, like on Monday?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Though?
Speaker 8 (29:00):
From the two five three, I thought you guys did
get snow earlier in the week. But nonetheless, it's okay,
you probably don't want to deal with it. From the
four two five, I have lived in eastern Washington, Anchorage, Alaska,
and outside of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
This is the worst place to dry. I agree with that. Man.
I still will never forget driving to a Seahawks Packers
game during a snowstorm and cars not pulled over in
the side of his shoulder, abandoned on High five and
I'm talking in the University district. I five cars put
abandoned in the middle of a lane, the center lane.
(29:34):
Guys just getting out of their cars and walking away.
Who does that? Don't even pull over the satellites from
the two to oh six.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
How confident are you, guys that Schneider will listen to
Mike McDonald and coaching staff to get guys they like
him the draft? I, as a fan, am nervous he
won't do it, and his eagle will get in his way.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Mmm, he has to, He absolutely has to. And yeah,
I mean you're right, this is the first time he's
had carte blanche authority himself. Will that mean he unilatally
takes it and runs with it and doesn't listen to
his coaching that that would I don't know any successful
GM and any sport that would do that. But it
(30:12):
is true that Pete Carroll had that for fifteen years,
and last year was the first time Snyder did. I Again,
Schnyder took the lead because the coaching staff was still
forming and busy last offseason. But this season he'd better
Dan Well listen to his coaching staff because what he's
been doing himself ain't working. Whoever he's been listening to him,
especially on offensive lineman, ain't working. So he better listen
(30:33):
to his coaches that I would think. The two bout
three says that twenty million being the twenty seven million
dollars in the hole against the cap is not as
relevant as you guys are making it sound. The cap
will rise nearly twenty million next season. Tyler Lockett's numbers
will come off. Gino either renegotiat or come off or both. Yes,
we've talked about that. But when we say they're twenty
seven million over the cap right now, that includes the
(30:56):
estimated two hundred eighty million dollars total for this year.
That's not based on last year's cap. They're twenty seven
million over the estimated cap, which is expected to be
two hundred and eighty million this year. But he's right,
he or she is right. The text are saying the
Tyler Lockett's going to either come up the books or
be reading done somehow. Gino Smith's not a forty four
million dollar cap hit once the season begins, and maybe
(31:18):
not even March twelfth when they have to get under
the cap. And DK Metcalp. We've talked about that thirty
million dollar capit. So those three guys right there plus
Draymond Jones, now you've saved yourself the twenty seven million
right there. All right, Well, you have mentioned you've seen
the mayor. I have. I've even talked to him, Marcus
said from beer in the Bremerton today. I saw one
(31:39):
plow and as a private one had the hills that
are infrastructures, like, yeah, they probably won't spend a lot
of year. That's seat two five three. So that Seahawks
Packers game the snow took us five hours to get
from Auburn to the game back home, five hours to
get back home after that two five three, Fellas, I
watched the Prince halftime show again last night. Nothing compares
(32:00):
I see what he did there, Nothing compares to you.
And finance is up next. He's gonna tell us about
Mike Hogrim being in studio today a day before he
hopes he learns he's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
That's next on ninety three point three kJ.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
R F m.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Welcome back to The Greg Best Show with Christopher Kidd
on ninety three point three kJ R f M. I
just want to shout I appreciate everybody listening, always have
the ten months we've done this, So throw that out there.
I in Finetz joins us big day to day because
we got Mike Holgren coming in. Yes we do. Let's
just roll out the red carpet. We don't want jinx
it though. Yeah, I don't even know what I feel
(32:42):
about that. I haven't talked to him. Well, I talked
to him, I used in the studio last week, and
I didn't really get into it with him. I don't
want to. How could he not ask him about it? Well, No,
we talked about it, okay.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
But I mean it's I don't know today. Well, I'll
talk to him before he goes in the air and
how much he wants to kind of get into it,
how much wants to talk about the super Bowl and
what have you.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But I.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
I you're on the same group text as all of us.
You know, we're setting things up for hopefully some good
news this week, and you know, I'm kind of the
and I don't know where Chris falls into this or
you follow this. I'm kind of the opinion that it's okay,
like it's it's going to be, He's going to get in.
The fact that it's been very quiet doesn't surprise me
because Hall of Fames don't like to let stuff get
(33:23):
leaked out, and we live in a world now where
stuff gets leaked.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I reported, Eli Manning already knows really, which I found interesting.
Who are the players most likely?
Speaker 8 (33:31):
That's what scared me, Eli is he's great, but like Homegrun,
I think.
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Is well, but it's a different category. But it's not right.
It's a different category, but it's.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Not being picked by the same group the same time.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
The fact that he got to the level of finalists
now and I think with the pecking order of him
then Belichick than Shanahan, right, Shanahan in two years, because
that's who they want to get in next sort of So,
Eli mann who are the other guys on?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Gates, Reggie, Wayne and Case is a veterans committy guys'
he no, I think he's still? Is he still? This
is his third time? All right? For second time? Second time? Okay?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
So Antonio Gates.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Willie Anderson, the offensive tackle, Jared Allen defensive end Eric Allen,
Eagles and Saints.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yeah, this is from Adam Schefter saying to hold already know.
So that's good information out there.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Okay, Tory Holt, greatest show on turf, Luke Keikley, Eli Manning,
Steve Smith, no wide receiver, Panthers, Ravens first time finals
and Terrell Suggs, Fred Taylor, Adam Vintier, Vinit, Terry ben
Tier excuse me, and is going to get in. He's
(34:44):
of all those guys, and then Eli, right, Eli, Reggie, Wayne,
Darren Woodson, the Cowboys safety, Marshall Yonda, the former the
tackle from Ravens.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
I would think of all the names I've heard, Eli,
Venitary are no brainers. I'm just saying, if you just
go by the past, the Hall of Fame eye test
without looking at the rest, A lot.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Of people point to Eli Manning and say he's a
five hundred quarterback, but he has two Super Bowl MVPs, which.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Is almost how it's a guarantee. And his name's yeah,
Ui Mann yeah uh, and they love TV people. So
man Keithley I always thought was he's I think he's in.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Antonio Gates redefined a tight.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
End Yeah, let's let's do the manning Keikley Gates, Holme Grin.
It's five, Max, right A here is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know you guys make me nervous. What the hell?
Yam you said this? Hey?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
I I thought I've been nervous all week from the
group check.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
So to continue the contributor, coach and senior categories of
Ralph Hay is a contributor, Mike Congren as a coach,
Maxie Bond, Sterling Sharp and Jim Tryer as the senior players.
M hm, he's gotta be in. Come on right, right?
I mean there are no set number any class of
in Chinese. I'm reading from the great Eric Williams, my
(36:09):
predecessor through what's he doing? He was tribute. He's at
Fox Sports. He does Fox Sports Online. He covers mostly
the NFC West. But it says there are no set
numbers for any class of in Chinese. But the Hall's
BiLaw stipulate that between four and eight new members will
be selected. Okay, so it's the max. He's in. We're good, Okay,
It's fine. Now you feel better. I feel better.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
I thought it was five for a second, and then
that got me nervous for just all heppy. Well, there's
a lot like like I think Keik's a Hall of Famer.
It was always be him and Bobby are always the two
best men of linebackers in that era. But if you
look at the actual All Pros, first Team All Pros,
Bobby's got six. I think K's got three.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Three.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Yeah, I mean it's so he should be in, but
it's not necessarily you get. I mean his career was
cut short by the head injuries and things like that.
It's a different process too. You know, it's no longer
you go knock on the door at the hotel and
all that. I was talking to Walter Jones about last
night we got some He was on our pregame show
(37:04):
for hockey and I was talking to him off here
about it, and I said, what is it?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Five five first team? My first team? Yeah, thirteen? You
know what he should be in right now?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Then?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh, so explain that. Walter Jones was saying, because it
is interesting.
Speaker 9 (37:17):
It's different, he said, it used to be where they
would they flew out the thirty finalists to the Super
Bowl site, put him up in a hotel and then
they let him know you know that day, that night
whenever it was before the official announcement on TV and
so forth, and the awards night.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And you said they had two different itineries when he
checked out.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
He says he got two itineraries. One for Walt was
if you were in, here's what we do, you know,
halftime and all that stuff. If you're out, we put
you on a plane and you're head home right away.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Don't even go to the game.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Don't even go to the game. And he's like, hey, man,
it's twenty fourteen, the Seahawks are playing. I'm going to
the game. I think he had an arrangement with with
the Hawks that he was going to be there as
a legend anyway. But he's like, I ain't getting on
a play because he's playing. Would have landed like in
the in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl the
Seahawks were playing in it was like, come on, man,
(38:06):
what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Now?
Speaker 9 (38:07):
I kind of looked at you, Walt.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I was gonna say he didn't have to worry about that.
You were a.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
First ballot, no brainer, dude, You're the best left tackle
of an era. And he's like, I don't know, man,
I wasn't gonna give it. I'm not getting on a plane.
I'm like, I don't think you were gonna get on
a plane, Walt, exactly, you were in buddy, You're Walter Jones,
you know exactly. He had his ring on and his
hat on last night for our TV show.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
So it was good. It was really good. Brand Huff
is gonna join us twelve twenty.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
We'll check in at one o'clock with Steve Palozolo from
Radio Row thirty thirteen talking super Bowl, which you can
hear right here in nine three point three k DFM,
and two o'clock the aforementioned Mike Comoran in.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Studio two o'clock. We hope it is the day before
Mike Comoran gets some duck to ba. He'll just come
in and say, hey, they already called me out. Yeah
it's done. I just I tell you just keep it
to ourselves on KJR Family. Let's hope. So, I hope.
So he deserves it and a great man. I've learned
so much from him, just being about real world stuff,
(39:08):
covering Mike Hongren, and it's it's a privilege here to
be at the station and see him so often and
maintain our relationship. It's been great. I cherish that, Cherish
you for listening, Appreciate it. Greg Bout Show with Christopher
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have him on. Hello you, good morning, good to be
with you, guys. Good morning, super Bowl, super Bowl week.
I'm going to ask you off the top, how can
the Eagles do it? How can they end this quest
for three pete? How do you beat Patrick Mahomes in
the playoffs? No one's done it in years.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Well, let me first state the obvious. There's not any
card in my sleeve that hasn't been considered. I mean,
we're talking about in Mahomes, a guy who's on pace
to be the greatest of all time if he can
keep his pace going.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I would just say so.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
I'm not going to give you anything earth shattering in
over the last three years rigulars season in playoffs, when
Pat Mahomes is not pressured, his passer rating is one
hundred and ten. When he is pressured, it's seventy two,
I think the most. And that's you know, you know,
somewhat par for most quarterbacks. But you go back to
the Super Bowl that he did not win against the Buccaneers,
(06:13):
next Gen Stats had it. You can google this because
I'm gonna it's gonna come out of my mouth and
I still don't even think I believe it, but it's
there in print. Next Gen Stats they tabulated in that
Super Bowl that Pat Mahomes ran sideways or Ford scrambled
around either prior to running or getting hit or throwing
(06:36):
the ball. For he scrambled fourner ninety seven yards per
the GPS tracker on his shoulder path and in a
thirty eight to nine loss where he looked totally out
class because his offensive line was Now the Chiefs, you know,
they resolve that with the offensive line, and maybe we'll
(06:57):
talk about that, but that's a factor.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Here's here's a factor.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
That the number one route that he has from a
passer rating standpoint efficiency is crossing routes. Just go back
to the AFC Championship game. Remember all those every time
there's a third down, third medium, those are manned a
man downs, and so the Chiefs really have a whole
bevy of crossing routes. Those are relatively easy throws for
(07:23):
a quarterback, there's short throws, although you're on the move
and so you have to lead the guy. So it's
not the easiest route in the route treat but it's
pretty darn easy crossing routes one hundred and seventeen. So
you have to have a plan for how you're going
to Some defensive coaches use the words cut cut the
crossing route, So that meaning if you're gonna run Xavier A. Worthy,
(07:45):
Let's say he lines up on Pat Mahomes left and
he's just gonna run a shallow cross with all that speed,
and then you're gonna have three receivers on the opposite side.
They're gonna try and create picks from you know, Kelsey
and whomever. They're gonna try and create picks. Now it's
not just three receivers, it's three receivers plus the three defenders.
So now if you're if you're in man and man
(08:07):
against Xavier Worthy on a crossing route, you're you're trying
to sift through not three chiefs, but also your guys.
So you're technically it could be six guys that you
have to wait through. So they're really effective in creating
that and and they get crossing routes even from the
backfield on that third down clinching low burst route which
(08:28):
is a flat with the running back coming from the
opposite side, and that sealed the AFC Championship game. That
was another example of these. So have a plan for
the crossing routes. You're gonna have to have some type
of zone concepts within man and pass that off the
the A couple of other thoughts. So Cover one single
(08:48):
high defenses. That that's Cover one Pat mahomes one hundred
and eleven passer rating. The other single high defenses Cover
three A three D four hunder zone one hundred and
five ratings. So remember one hundred and eleven, one hundred
and five on the on the more of the split
safety Cover four and Cover six looks that Vic Fangio
has specialized in. Uh, it's still pretty good, but but
(09:10):
now it's passer rating of eighty one UH for Cover four,
a eighty for Cover six. So UH, if you don't
know what all that means, it's it's basically the the
uh the inverse. If you say on a on an offense,
you say, hey, where are either going to run or pass?
As a general rule, a defense the like kind uh.
(09:33):
Binary equation to that would be single high or too high,
and so Mahomes has done better, not surprisingly against single
high defenses. So there's some other splits in there, but
that that's where I would start.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
How big h do you think Saquon Barkley could be
to all of this? Because the Chiefs having faced it
back like him. I think my opinion is if Saquon
Barkley runs wild, they win, and if the Chiefs and
Steve Spagnov will find a way to corral him, Chiefs win.
He could be that important in my mind. How do
you see Saquon Barkley play out in Super Bowl fifty nine?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Well, I think he's the key. I think you're right.
And you know the Eagles are number one in the
NFL in time of possession. You know, the plan for
the Eagles would be that Saquon Barkley is making Hey
now they His number one routes or run scheme split
is inside zone at thirty six percent. That's opposed to
(10:30):
outside zone seventeen percent. They also run a play called duo,
which is down blocking at the on the strong side
of the formation, but without a polar so it's often
called power without a polar But in any rate, those
those are relatively inside.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Type of schemes.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
And you're running at Chris Jones, right, who might be
the best player on the whole damn field on either side.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's a factor.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Now he does have the speed to bounce it out,
and the big runs that he's had in the playoffs,
they've been to the outside, and and and so it's
not just that Barkley has a speed to get outside,
but now where he's more likely to face dbs, he
can run through those arm tackles with his strength.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And we saw that.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
But I do think that that's that's the key now
against a stack box. That or what I should say
when the eagle let me let me start it for
the third time. When the Chiefs employ a stack box,
the heavy box, they allow opponents just three point four
yards per attempt, they're gonna be enticed to do that.
And the Chiefs have a secondary. You know Trent McDuffie,
(11:35):
he was a year ago the best slot corner in football. Well,
Spagnola moved him to the outside a year ago. Uh,
you had Trent McDuffie only at twenty nine point six
percent of his snaps were wide. This year's seventy eight
point six percent. And so he can be a wide guy.
You can play a heavy box and and and put
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McDuffie on AJ Brown. Now Devon Smith, Uh, you know
he's a challenge too. But but if you play those
heavy boxes and you're stopping the run with Sakwan Barkley,
now you're getting one on one to the outside with
Devonte Smith and AJ Brown. And the question would be,
it is does Jalen Hurtz have the chops? Does he
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have the ability when he faces those one on ones?
Can he make plays consistently out to the perimeter of
the field, down the field and what have you? To
the outside guys? I think I think if I'm the Eagles,
I'm biting my nails on that question.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So you'd go pass if they go heavy box, you
wouldn't try to ram Barkley in there. You try to
your chances outside one on one.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Well, I think you always are going to try, right,
I think, I think, And you've got an extra gap
with the quarterback in the running, so they're not gonna
just full ten. It's not like, uh, you know, you
go back to Peyton Manning when you know he just
they basically lined up in two formations all game. They're
either going to be in a two by two eleven
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personnel or a three by one. And then Peyton Manning
is gonna read, hey, if you if you show us
a too high, we're gonna run the ball. If you
show us a single, we're gonna throw it. And he
just you know, construct damn near the whole game at
the line of scrimmage. It's not like that there. The
Eagles aren't gonna say, oh, well, if you drop a
safety down the box, that's gonna bottle up our running game.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
We're just not gonna run it. But I think that
if as I.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Mentioned the three point four yards that the Chiefs are defensively,
the Eagles have the best defense in the league. But
the Chiefs are a top three or four. I mean
all the numbers, I'm not gonna give you them all,
but but you said, you know, this is the damn
good defense.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
The Chiefs. They're just not quite as good as the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
But but they if they can stop the run at
some point, you know, get you know, create a second
and eight or what have you, then there's gonna be
times where Hurts is going to try and win in
those single coverage situations.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
I was listening earlier this week when you were on
with the Mayor Ian Forness on Monday, and the discussion
came up about trading DK for Miles Garrett, who once
out of Cleveland. And I know they caught you off
guard in that regard and that saying, hey, you know,
would you make the deal?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Would you make that move?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
And I think we're agreeing that what Miles Garret is
twenty nine, but he's heading to thirty. What did your
research say about edge rudgers at thirty years old? And
would you make that trade? Well, I looked at all
guys over thirty years old. Now, this is just a
really simple exercise. Just how many wide receivers over the
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age of thirty this is that have a thousand yards
or more receiving versus double digit sacks. Okay, and so
you've had one hundred and twelve wide receivers. Let's see
that was that was since I did it since nineteen
ninety four. No, I'm sorry, I did it since two
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thousand ninety four, I thought, because that was the advent
of free agency. But in that duration, one hundred and
twelve receivers over the age of thirty hit the thousand
yard mark, fifty one defensive ends hit the double digit
sack mark. And then when you when you say, okay,
what about thirty two year olds, you go fifty two
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receivers over the at thirty two or old had the
thousand yards versus twenty defensive ends age thirty two or
older had ten. Now you know whether or not one
thousand yards equates to a double digit sack. You know,
I looked at pressures and all this other stuff, but
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in any event, it wouldn't be absurd.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
I don't know if Cleveland would do that, But you know,
I don't ever want to be on the record as
the guy who says trade.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
If you would be the last guy in the p
yeah you say that, I don't know, man, I just
might blow a fuse.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
I might not even be able to drive to the
grocery store if I actually said that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So, I don't know. I got to keep my fuse
box at that air So not trading. DK Metcalf. What
do you think the Seahawks need to do first? What's
their most urgent needs to improve this team? Do you
think this us?
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well, I referenced the Chiefs in that that would have
been the twenty twenty season when Mahomes was running around
in the Super Bowl, right and they got smoked. Well,
Brett Vich, who's one of the best gms in football,
certainly at top five the GM for the Chiefs, he
just said, Hey, look my offensive line's on fire, and
I got.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To fix this.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
And so what he did is he got spent eighty
million dollars on a left guard from the Patriots, and
Joe Toney drafted Creed Humphrey in the second round. Hit
This is all in the same year, hit on Creed Smith,
Trey Smith the right guard in the sixth round, and
so and so they totally sealed that up. Now there's
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a little bit of an astress because they've had some
problems at the left tackle position with Kingsley Sue Tay
I'm sure I butchered that, and then also Wayne Morris.
So they've had a little bit of a revolving door.
They've had to push Tony outside. And by the way
that I think that's a factor potentially in this game,
the idea that Toney the best left guard has because
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of the problems they've switched out to left tackle. But
there had been stability since that Super Bowl in the
two thousand year, there had been stability and it was
all addressed in one year. The Eagles they found themselves
last year after losing six and seven, they had a
fire in the secondary. They were twenty ninth in opposing
passer rating. Okay, in one year, they draft Quinny and
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Mitchell they in the first round. They draft Cooper Jene
in the second round, and they signed CJ. Gardner Johnson.
They totally redo their secondary and they go from twenty
ninth in opposing passer rate the third the Vikings they
had a fire at linebacker and uh they so they
acquired Jonathan Greener, uh Andrew Van Ginkle and Blake Cashman. Now,
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if you're an NFL fan, you know the impact those
three guys had held. Two of them greenerd and and
uh Van and Cashman made the Pro Bowl and Van
Ginkle was phenomenal. So they they they fixed their linebacker problem.
And it was in a concentrated effort, right, And so
I would just say, you know where I'm leading with this.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's no mystery.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
I'm saying you gotta have those are those are three
great examples of just saying a laser focus on a problem,
and I think that the Seahawks need to get laser
focused on their their offensive line problem, particularly in the middle.
Uh In in the manner in which the Chiefs resolved
their three acquisitions in one year, left guard, center, right guard,
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three and boom, they had continuity right through it until
this year where they had to slide tune the out
as I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Would you feel that a draft could do that or
you you think free agency is I think both?
Speaker 7 (19:04):
I think both. I mean, you know you know. I
mean obviously you know Trey Smith. I don't know if
they're gonna the Chiefs are going to franchise him or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But I was going to ask you that would be
an investment that they rarely make. I mean, it'd be
above the Draymond Jones fifty one million dollars sign it
blew up in different sure.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah, and if you I think it was March thirteenth,
I wrote the data down at one point. It doesn't
really matter. But but uh Schnyder said, Hey, I think
teams make mistake. They overdrafted Guard and overpay it Guard.
I'm paraphrasing there, but it's on record. You can you
can look it up. It's easy to find that in
the wake of Damian Lewis's big Yes, it wasn't exactly
in the wake of Damian Lewis and so so look
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that's one of the problems and why I've I talk
about laser focus. I got a laser focus on John
Schnider and the job he's done. I mean, here, when
you look at at the cap that's available, you just
asked me about free agency. Well, there's, uh, the the
tea that has the most under the cap is the
Patriots one hundred and twenty four million dollars under the cap. Right,
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the Raiders are ninety five million under the cap. There's
five teams that are over the cap, and Seattle has
the third at twenty five million dollars over the cap.
There's only two teams that are worse Cleveland in New Orleans,
and we know why Cleveland is so so I just
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think you might be a little bit hamstring and what
you can do in free agency. And I don't know
that they can get a tree smith. So so you've
got a situation where you got a cap. I mean
that's a wide dispersion. By the way, the median is
thirty one million under the cap, and the Seahawks are
twenty five million over the cap, so there's some limitation
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that they're in that type of cap situation. They don't
have an offensive line and they don't have a quarterback
for the future, so I don't know. I think John
Schneider all of his success, we all love John Sneiner.
Who doesn't love John Schneider if you're a Seahawks fan,
But in his first seven years won nine playoff games,
and then in the last eight years is one one
and everything is just kind of plateauing or or you know, receding,
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and so anyway, I don't know that they have the
resources to go get a top level offensive alignment, so
I think that they're just gonna have to do.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It in the draft. Them as are facts I wanted.
I wanted to thank you for all you've done all season.
This will be our last show with you and okay,
and I appreciate everything done and the round table and
everything else. You're the best we'd have in the market,
and thanks a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Well, you're kind to say that you lie like a rug,
but you are kind of say that. I appreciate both
of you, guys, So hammer down and hopefully it'll be
good super Bowl and call any time.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yes, sir, enjoy your bro Thank you? Okay, Hugh mill
and one and only saying I the Seahawks need to
have laser focus on a problem, talking about the offensive line,
and he says, I have laser focus on John Schneider.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
As he talked to about that earlier on the show.
I mentioned some of the things he's done. And Hugh
knows all about it. You know he was as you
mentioned laser focus. So yet no surprise there four.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Nine and tell him what do you text? Sign? It's
game time, it's tally time. Next it'll be time to
readback your text. Be part of the show. You can
react to Hugh saying he's got later focus on John
Schneider and how they're going to fix that offensive line
or anything else you want to talk about. A lot
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Speaker 2 (22:34):
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Speaker 3 (22:58):
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point three KJRFM. You know what the music means, trying
to read back to your text, then four nine four
five one to tell them we'll do text line because
when it is game time it.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Is Pulley from the two five to three. I think
Schmider of the problem. Look at the last eight years,
Like Hugh Millan said, yes, sir, since you were talking
Detroit from the fourteen to five, I know they were devastated.
But where are they at right now? Still devastated, hopeful, resilient.
The world is an ending losing both coordinatord is it?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Well, the word's not ending. They have a really really
good team with really really good players, and they've choked.
That's where they're at. That's one way of putting it.
Let's see.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Ummm but oh well, yeah you read you said this
one already. Yes on Jackson Slater from Chris on the
four two five four point h student Newport High School
in Beealvue. Thanks Chris, appreciate that. From the two five
to three, I guy Michael greg gets all of the above.
(24:19):
Can the new old line game them up? Obviously? Well,
he meant on line coach he said in another one
oh O line coached him up, but the old line
needs fixing. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That was in response to my question and what you
thought as a fan on the text line where they
should improve? What specific positions? All five the interior three?
Are you sold on? Abe Lucas and Charles Cross's the
bookend tackles.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
From the two five to three Kirk Cousins must have
been playing hurt his whole career. I will say with
the Vikings he earlier at the Vikings he was money,
he was nails.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Is that a good career? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:56):
I think he's had a fine career, But right now
it's time to probably evaluate.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You know, it would be funny to have the Orlando
let better on about that. Maybe we can call him
tomorrow and squeeze him in. That's true, he would be
really funny talking about this. He lied to me. He
just lied pretty accurate.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Not sure if this was a discussion yesterday for the
text line, but best Super Bowl performance at halftime was
Prince from the two five to three, So someone remembered
and didn't text him, but they responded today.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I agree from the two five three, totally agree. I
don't even think it's close.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
The Seahawks' biggest need from the two five three is
o line intelligence center, not just someone who can play
the position, but someone who can think the position and
tell the rest of the offensive line up blocking patterns
to use.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's an interesting point because they have had guys who've
been one or the other Evan Brown, for instance, and
they just aren't strong enough, aren't big enough, stronger, but
getting pushed around by nose tackles. Aaron Donald owned them.
I mean that. Or you have a big, strong guy
who hasn't been able to be a blue guy, a
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coordinator of the line and the line caller and all that.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
It's not easy to be good at both. At the
NFL level. This is from the two five three. How
much of Snider's success is because of Pete Carroll. Peter
arrived with a wealth of knowledge top college talent. Seahawk
drafts became mediocre four plus years into that regime.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's an interesting point. It is a theory of a
lot of people that follow the team and fans of
the team that Pete Carroll's recent knowledge of the college
game benefited him greatly in the early years. I mean,
it's a it's a cause and effect relationship, and it's
an easy link to make. And as Carol got further
away from the college game for the years removed from
his USC days, the Seahawks became less successful in the draft.
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There were I mean, it may be coincidence, but that
those are facts. The further that they Carol got away
from being a USC job, like eight ten years, the
less successful the Sears were in the draft.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
So I did ask, how many inches did you guys
get a snow Greg made sure that was very clear.
Let's see, so in South Bend five to six inches.
I live over in Beerrie in the West Seattle area. Yeah,
we had about two or three and Queen Anne much
more on Queen where I worked from the two o six.
I heard West Seattle got a couple of inches. Yeah,
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we had two to three. But it was they did
a good job of clearing the back roads. It wasn't
as treacherous.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
They didn't do that thing where they just piled in
front of the Mayor's house. Remember that year? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I was like, so we don't go, no love, because
I couldn't get out.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Nobody could. That was that was the two feet year.
Remember that it's snowed two feet twenty inches at Sea tag.
They said, right, that was insane away and the Mayor's
house was the only one pay Mayors Street. Oh, I'm
guessing he's very important. They got voted out right about
six months after that? Is that and the Sonics leaving
that little thing? Greg your brother from another Ohio mother.
(28:00):
Oh ah.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
I learned to drive at fifteen in the snow in
Kmart parking lot in Dayton and ninety nine, there you go.
I lived in Washington Is two thousand and five, and
it's always a source of laughter how this town and
residents of Seattle handle a sprinkle of snow.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Oh h I oh, Although I will say, in Dayton,
it's flat as a billiard table. There are no holes
from hills from Dayton till about Denver. That definitely yeah.
Having a flat where I'm at, the eastern Ohio and
the Ohio Valley, there are a lot of hills in
the Ohio River area. My dad would park our. This
is how I learned to drive the snow. My dad
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parked our two door Honda Civic Stick five speed on
a hill by my house, put it in neutral, put
on the emergency break in the snow, snow covered. It's nice.
You go, okay, Greg, go for it. Okay, Pops, they
could two hundred clutch later.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
From the from the two five three, my parents are
living in Graham. They got nothing out there. Uh well,
didn't you already have snow prior to that, like on Monday?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Though?
Speaker 8 (29:00):
From the two five three, I thought you guys did
get snow earlier in the week. But nonetheless, it's okay,
you probably don't want to deal with it. From the
four two five, I have lived in eastern Washington, Anchorage, Alaska,
and outside of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
This is the worst place to dry. I agree with that. Man.
I still will never forget driving to a Seahawks Packers
game during a snowstorm and cars not pulled over in
the side of his shoulder, abandoned on High five and
I'm talking in the University district. I five cars put
abandoned in the middle of a lane, the center lane.
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Guys just getting out of their cars and walking away.
Who does that? Don't even pull over the satellites from
the two to oh six.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
How confident are you, guys that Schneider will listen to
Mike McDonald and coaching staff to get guys they like
him the draft? I, as a fan, am nervous he
won't do it, and his eagle will get in his way.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Mmm, he has to, He absolutely has to. And yeah,
I mean you're right, this is the first time he's
had carte blanche authority himself. Will that mean he unilatally
takes it and runs with it and doesn't listen to
his coaching that that would I don't know any successful
GM and any sport that would do that. But it
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is true that Pete Carroll had that for fifteen years,
and last year was the first time Snyder did. I Again,
Schnyder took the lead because the coaching staff was still
forming and busy last offseason. But this season he'd better
Dan Well listen to his coaching staff because what he's
been doing himself ain't working. Whoever he's been listening to him,
especially on offensive lineman, ain't working. So he better listen
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to his coaches that I would think. The two bout
three says that twenty million being the twenty seven million
dollars in the hole against the cap is not as
relevant as you guys are making it sound. The cap
will rise nearly twenty million next season. Tyler Lockett's numbers
will come off. Gino either renegotiat or come off or both. Yes,
we've talked about that. But when we say they're twenty
seven million over the cap right now, that includes the
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estimated two hundred eighty million dollars total for this year.
That's not based on last year's cap. They're twenty seven
million over the estimated cap, which is expected to be
two hundred and eighty million this year. But he's right,
he or she is right. The text are saying the
Tyler Lockett's going to either come up the books or
be reading done somehow. Gino Smith's not a forty four
million dollar cap hit once the season begins, and maybe
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not even March twelfth when they have to get under
the cap. And DK Metcalp. We've talked about that thirty
million dollar capit. So those three guys right there plus
Draymond Jones, now you've saved yourself the twenty seven million
right there. All right, Well, you have mentioned you've seen
the mayor. I have. I've even talked to him, Marcus
said from beer in the Bremerton today. I saw one
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plow and as a private one had the hills that
are infrastructures, like, yeah, they probably won't spend a lot
of year. That's seat two five three. So that Seahawks
Packers game the snow took us five hours to get
from Auburn to the game back home, five hours to
get back home after that two five three, Fellas, I
watched the Prince halftime show again last night. Nothing compares
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I see what he did there, Nothing compares to you.
And finance is up next. He's gonna tell us about
Mike Hogrim being in studio today a day before he
hopes he learns he's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
That's next on ninety three point three kJ.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
R F m.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Welcome back to The Greg Best Show with Christopher Kidd
on ninety three point three kJ R f M. I
just want to shout I appreciate everybody listening, always have
the ten months we've done this, So throw that out there.
I in Finetz joins us big day to day because
we got Mike Holgren coming in. Yes we do. Let's
just roll out the red carpet. We don't want jinx
it though. Yeah, I don't even know what I feel
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about that. I haven't talked to him. Well, I talked
to him, I used in the studio last week, and
I didn't really get into it with him. I don't
want to. How could he not ask him about it? Well, No,
we talked about it, okay.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
But I mean it's I don't know today. Well, I'll
talk to him before he goes in the air and
how much he wants to kind of get into it,
how much wants to talk about the super Bowl and
what have you.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But I.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
I you're on the same group text as all of us.
You know, we're setting things up for hopefully some good
news this week, and you know, I'm kind of the
and I don't know where Chris falls into this or
you follow this. I'm kind of the opinion that it's okay,
like it's it's going to be, He's going to get in.
The fact that it's been very quiet doesn't surprise me
because Hall of Fames don't like to let stuff get
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leaked out, and we live in a world now where
stuff gets leaked.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I reported, Eli Manning already knows really, which I found interesting.
Who are the players most likely?
Speaker 8 (33:31):
That's what scared me, Eli is he's great, but like Homegrun,
I think.
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Is well, but it's a different category. But it's not right.
It's a different category, but it's.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Not being picked by the same group the same time.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
The fact that he got to the level of finalists
now and I think with the pecking order of him
then Belichick than Shanahan, right, Shanahan in two years, because
that's who they want to get in next sort of So,
Eli mann who are the other guys on?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Gates, Reggie, Wayne and Case is a veterans committy guys'
he no, I think he's still? Is he still? This
is his third time? All right? For second time? Second time? Okay?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
So Antonio Gates.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Willie Anderson, the offensive tackle, Jared Allen defensive end Eric Allen,
Eagles and Saints.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yeah, this is from Adam Schefter saying to hold already know.
So that's good information out there.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Okay, Tory Holt, greatest show on turf, Luke Keikley, Eli Manning,
Steve Smith, no wide receiver, Panthers, Ravens first time finals
and Terrell Suggs, Fred Taylor, Adam Vintier, Vinit, Terry ben
Tier excuse me, and is going to get in. He's
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of all those guys, and then Eli, right, Eli, Reggie, Wayne,
Darren Woodson, the Cowboys safety, Marshall Yonda, the former the
tackle from Ravens.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
I would think of all the names I've heard, Eli,
Venitary are no brainers. I'm just saying, if you just
go by the past, the Hall of Fame eye test
without looking at the rest, A lot.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Of people point to Eli Manning and say he's a
five hundred quarterback, but he has two Super Bowl MVPs, which.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Is almost how it's a guarantee. And his name's yeah,
Ui Mann yeah uh, and they love TV people. So
man Keithley I always thought was he's I think he's in.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Antonio Gates redefined a tight.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
End Yeah, let's let's do the manning Keikley Gates, Holme Grin.
It's five, Max, right A here is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Mm hmm?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know you guys make me nervous. What the hell?
Yam you said this? Hey?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
I I thought I've been nervous all week from the
group check.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
So to continue the contributor, coach and senior categories of
Ralph Hay is a contributor, Mike Congren as a coach,
Maxie Bond, Sterling Sharp and Jim Tryer as the senior players.
M hm, he's gotta be in. Come on right, right?
I mean there are no set number any class of
in Chinese. I'm reading from the great Eric Williams, my
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predecessor through what's he doing? He was tribute. He's at
Fox Sports. He does Fox Sports Online. He covers mostly
the NFC West. But it says there are no set
numbers for any class of in Chinese. But the Hall's
BiLaw stipulate that between four and eight new members will
be selected. Okay, so it's the max. He's in. We're good, Okay,
It's fine. Now you feel better. I feel better.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
I thought it was five for a second, and then
that got me nervous for just all heppy. Well, there's
a lot like like I think Keik's a Hall of Famer.
It was always be him and Bobby are always the two
best men of linebackers in that era. But if you
look at the actual All Pros, first Team All Pros,
Bobby's got six. I think K's got three.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Three.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Yeah, I mean it's so he should be in, but
it's not necessarily you get. I mean his career was
cut short by the head injuries and things like that.
It's a different process too. You know, it's no longer
you go knock on the door at the hotel and
all that. I was talking to Walter Jones about last
night we got some He was on our pregame show
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for hockey and I was talking to him off here
about it, and I said, what is it?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Five five first team? My first team? Yeah, thirteen? You
know what he should be in right now?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Then?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh, so explain that. Walter Jones was saying, because it
is interesting.
Speaker 9 (37:17):
It's different, he said, it used to be where they
would they flew out the thirty finalists to the Super
Bowl site, put him up in a hotel and then
they let him know you know that day, that night
whenever it was before the official announcement on TV and
so forth, and the awards night.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And you said they had two different itineries when he
checked out.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
He says he got two itineraries. One for Walt was
if you were in, here's what we do, you know,
halftime and all that stuff. If you're out, we put
you on a plane and you're head home right away.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Don't even go to the game.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Don't even go to the game. And he's like, hey, man,
it's twenty fourteen, the Seahawks are playing. I'm going to
the game. I think he had an arrangement with with
the Hawks that he was going to be there as
a legend anyway. But he's like, I ain't getting on
a play because he's playing. Would have landed like in
the in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl the
Seahawks were playing in it was like, come on, man,
(38:06):
what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Now?
Speaker 9 (38:07):
I kind of looked at you, Walt.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I was gonna say he didn't have to worry about that.
You were a.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
First ballot, no brainer, dude, You're the best left tackle
of an era. And he's like, I don't know, man,
I wasn't gonna give it. I'm not getting on a plane.
I'm like, I don't think you were gonna get on
a plane, Walt, exactly, you were in buddy, You're Walter Jones,
you know exactly. He had his ring on and his
hat on last night for our TV show.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
So it was good. It was really good. Brand Huff
is gonna join us twelve twenty.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
We'll check in at one o'clock with Steve Palozolo from
Radio Row thirty thirteen talking super Bowl, which you can
hear right here in nine three point three k DFM,
and two o'clock the aforementioned Mike Comoran in.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Studio two o'clock. We hope it is the day before
Mike Comoran gets some duck to ba. He'll just come
in and say, hey, they already called me out. Yeah
it's done. I just I tell you just keep it
to ourselves on KJR Family. Let's hope. So, I hope.
So he deserves it and a great man. I've learned
so much from him, just being about real world stuff,
(39:08):
covering Mike Hongren, and it's it's a privilege here to
be at the station and see him so often and
maintain our relationship. It's been great. I cherish that, Cherish
you for listening, Appreciate it. Greg Bout Show with Christopher
Kidd will be on again tomorrow or hopefully we have
news if not during our show after about Mike Hongrean
in the Hall of Fame. Ian Forness is up next
on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
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