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Next hour, we're going to get to Mike Holmgren and
what he is waiting for and expecting hoping for. We're
all expecting and hoping for Hall of Fame induction news
to break early this evening in Seattle. We'll get to
that in a minute, right after headline's bout to you
by Frostbury.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
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Speaker 1 (01:24):
That fifty person Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection committee
probably done now deciding at this point in New Orleans
at the Super Bowl and who the inductees to the
Class of twenty twenty five are going to be. Will
it be Mike Holmgren, our coach the Seahawks and Packers'
Super Bowl coach, finalist for enshrinement. He's at his home
in Kirkland with his wife Kathy, and mentioned last star
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they meant and when they were twelve years old. The
story goes they got married on June fifteenth in nineteen
seventy one, on his birthday, so we'd never forget their
wedding day. We will get to Mike Hogrean's candidacy and
describe what Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Walter Jones
have to say about it.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Right after these headlines.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Chis are, of course one and a half point favorites
over the Eagles Sunday in Super Bowl fifty nine in
New Orleans. Kansas City is trying to become the first
team to win three consecutive Super Bowls. Are exclusive Pacific
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three KJRFM. The Seahawks have restructured Glennon Williams's contract to
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create fourteen million dollars in additional space against the twenty
twenty five league salary cap he was. He got his
base salary converted to bonus money, cash up front and
two void years added to the deal. A Seahawks kicked
the salary cap hand down the road and spread that
money across three years instead of just one.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
There's still fourteen million over the cap.
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They've got Geno Smith's contract to deal with Tyler Lockett's
contract ending, and he came metcalf entering the final year
of his dealer. Though there's a three higher cap charges above.
Williams is on the team for twenty twenty five. The
Kraken nine points behind Calgary for the final playoff spot
in the Western Conference. In their home stand a night
against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Pre game with Mike Ben
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Washington Huskies men's basketball team you heard last night on
KJR had a ten point lead at Halften, then got
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outscored you debb forty nine twenty five. After the break,
Huskies lose eighty six seventy two at heck ed you
dub now two to nine.
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In the Big Ten.
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Task to get the top fifteen of the eighteen team
league and make the Big Ten Tournament just got harder.
The Husky's women's team won at Penn State yesterday eighty
two seventy one. The Washington State men's team played tonight
at Oregon State eight pm on ESPN two national broadcast.
Cougars has watch four straight road games. According to Greg
Woods of The Spokesman Review, there's a sickness going through
the Cougars. Team leading scorer Nate cow MEAs and others
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have been sick this weeka more trades. The deadline is
at noon today. Another blockbuster last night ESPN reporting the
Golden State Warriors are going to get Jimmy Butler from
the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
He'd have suspended.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Butler three times this year for conduct detrimental of the team,
including skipping a flight to.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
A road game.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Miami traded Butler to the Warriors after Kevin Duran reportedly
told Golden State he didn't want to be traded back
to the Warriors. From the Suns, Warriors are sending Andrew
Wiggins and Kyle Anderson, plus a top ten protected pick
in this summer's draft. In Miami, guard Dennis Schroeder goes
from the Warriors to the Jazz. Jazz are sending PJ.
Tucker to the Heat. The Pistons were involved too, with
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players I've never heard of. ESPA reported as a condition
of the trade, Butler with decline as fifty two million
dollar player option for next season and is planning to sign.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
A two year, one hundred eleven million dollars deal with
the Warriors. Instead, it must be nice.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I want to know what it's like to be an
Eagles fan as a ten year old right now.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And a well raised living brother.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
At the same time, well WPV tel levision in Philadelphia
was reporting about the plane crash that was last Friday
in Northeast Philadelphia. A crash that landed into a residential area.
It injured at least twenty four people killed seven including
six people aboard the jet and one person on the
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ground in the streets of northeast Philadelphia. There's a family
of a ten year old boy injured when the jet
crash that landed down near their car on the street
in Philadelphia. It was an amazing star. Trey Howard is
ten years old. He's one of the survivors of this
plane crash. He was seriously injured by flying debris and
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metal from the plane landing and crashing in the cars
and fires and it was a wild apopalyptic scene on
the streets of Northeast Philadelphia. His father and his mother
were picking up donuts with their three kids for ages four, seven,
and ten when the jet came crashing down and his father,
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Trey Howard, ten year old's father, Andrea, was talking to
Philadelphia's Channel six WPVII television. He said when he saw
the crash and the flames and the metal flying, he
immediately backed up his car while his son, Trey covered
his little sister, protecting her. I turned around, Andrea described,
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and said he had metal outside of his head. His
dad used socks in another man's shirt to try to
stop the bleeding. A police officer then rushed them to
the hospital, where Trey had emergency brain.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Surgery ten years old. That night.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Andrea, the dad was said the family was told by
doctors that it was a strong chance that little Tray
might not survive. Miraculously, he did. He's now awake and recovering.
He's even talking, Trey is.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Andrea.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
His dad told Channel six in Philadelphia that the son's
first real words were about the Super Bowl. He asked me, Dad,
what's today? I was like Monday? He goes, okay, wait,
we didn't play yesterday, did we? And his dad told
his little boy, no, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Miss the Super Bowl. Trey's a diehard Eagles fan.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
The second thing, ten year old Trey said, Daddy, did
I save my sister?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And he did.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That. Sunds like to be an Eagles fan of ten
years old and a loving big brother to a little sister.
Those are the parents out there I thought would appreciate
that story.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
That's pretty damn cool.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's awesome, good for Trey, good for his family, and
a horrific, horrific accident in Northeast Philadelphia, shifting gears hard
like without a clutch. Mike Holmgren being inducted today into
the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We hope the NFL
Honors show is on Fox Television and NFL Network being
at six pm Seattle time. Everyone's sworn to secrecy until
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that time, so truth be told. The people that are
inducted and those who did the selection they know before that.
Mike Homer's at home and is at home with his
wife Kathy in Kirkland. He was on the Infernest show
yesterday afternoon and Ann asked him how he was holding up.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
How he was he nervous, was he worried? And this
is what Mike Holmgran said.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
In all honesty, i'ment more at peace than my wife,
or my kids or my grandkids. They're chomping at the bit,
and I guess they're going to let everyone know tomorrow
I'm taking Kathy to see Hamilton for a birthday present
Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yes he is Mike Hombran and knowing Mike Holmwran, he's
got good seats and those are cheap. I've got him
for my wife for Valente's Day, so I know they're
not cheap. So he says, yeah, they can. NFL can
call me and if I do get in, great, But
I'm not going to New Orleans at least until after
the Hamilton performance Saturday night. Maybe he could fly to
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New Orleans day of the game and get there in time.
Usually what they do with Hall of Fame inductees is
they bring him to the Super Bowl and then they
have a ceremony at halftime or at some point in
I mean, I don't know if Kendrick Lamar is going
to yield the stage, but there is a point in
the game pregame halftime where the Hall of Fame inductees
are honored on the field into the international audience watching
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on television. So presumably thinking ahead here, Mike Hongrem could
go from Seattle to New Orleans, get there by game
time if he left like first five a half, get
him on private playing and get him leave whenever he
wants to after Hamilton's performance ends at ten o'clock or
so on Saturday night at the Paramount Theater in downtown Seattle.
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That performance of Hamilton in Seattle's production of it just
began last night. By the way, so Mike hongrem people
think that. First of all, let's trace Mike Hongren' step.
I covered him him, covered him with the two thousand
and five Seahawks. When I came to Seattle from the
covering of the Oakland Raiders, I couldn't believe my luck.
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I went from John Gruden to Mike Hongren. You talk
about a reporter's dream. Mike Hongren was so real. He
would talk to you about teaching. He used to be
a high school history teacher at his alma mater of
Lincoln High School in San Francisco. He was a high
school football coach there. He was a star quarterback for
Lincoln All City, went to USC didn't play out the
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injuries and other things. It didn't pan out on a
playing career, and he quickly realized he could be a
great coach.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
He went to BYU.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He learned under Levelle Edwards in the passing game, of
BYU in the seventies, and then he went to the
San Francisco forty nine Ers. He learned under Bo Walsh
in his revolutionary offense. He was an offensive Homegren was
an offensive coordinator for his hometown forty nine Ers when
they had Joe Montana and Steve Young. Holmgren was calling
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the offense, scheming the offense for the ones consecutive Super
Bowls with Joe Montana, including his last one in the
early nineteen nineties. And then he went to Green Bay
and the Packers made him a first time head coach.
He'd never been a head coach before the Packers made
him a first time head coach. And people forget Chris
that the Packers are not the Packers of today. They
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think Vince Lombardi, they think current Packers. That Packers are always good.
The Packers from about nineteen seventy one, when Vince Lombardi
left to join the Washington Redskins in a stunning departure.
From that time until Holmgren got there in the mid
early nineties, they were nothing. Man Charlie Whitehursts dad was
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one of the quarterbacks of the Packers.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Back then.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Lynn Dickey was a quarterback Bart Starr was their coach.
They might win four or five games a year if
they're lucky. The Packers were so disinteresting to the people
of Green Bay that four of their eight home games,
or back then when they played fourteen games seven home
games were in Milwaukee County Stadium in.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
A baseball field. Half the season they.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Didn't even play or sell out lambeau Field. And this
is when Lambefield was like fifty five sixty thousand before
the expansion to the current capacity almost eighty. So even
Packer fans in Green Bay didn't like the Packers until
Mike Comeran got there. Homern gets there, he takes the
quarterback teachings that he learned under Bill Walsh and Lavelle Edwards,
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and he turns Brett Fahr from a wild man Atlanta
Falcons crazy man interception machine into a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Three time League MVP.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Damn Packers won the Super Bowl for the first time
since the Marty sixty seven sixty eight Packers.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
He goes to a second Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
He'll tell you that that's one of his greatest regrets
of that game. Didn't get his players prepared enough to
beat the overwhelming underdog Denver Broncos in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
John L. Way and the Broncos beat Holmgren and denied
him his second Super Bowl title with the Packers.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
He's so revered for what he did reviving the legacy
in Green Bay. They have Holmgren Way named the street
right outside the stadium his home ground way. And it's
not some little alleyway, it's a main thoroughfare. Paul Allen
saw all this. His Seahawks were mired in seven and nine,
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eight and eight, three consecutive seasons of eight and eight
with Dennis Erickson. Tom Flores had a two to fourteen season,
a six and ten season before that.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I mean they were nowhere.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
They ed.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
The Seahawks hired Mike Holmgren in nineteen ninety nine. How
do you get him here? Paul Allen didn't just give
him the head coach title.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
He gave him executive vice president, just like he ended
up doing ten years later with Pete Carroll, and he
gave him the GM title. He was the executive vice president,
final say of football, the GM and the coach all
at the same time. Chris for four million dollars a year,
which was by far and away the highest salary at
the time for a head coach. That's why he left
Green Bay. He came to Seattle, Chris Before Mike Hogan
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joined the Seattle Seahawks. The Seahawks had one playoff appearance
in twenty three years. One the very first year Peake,
Mike Holgren got him to the playoffs. Five division titles.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh, that's when they were in the AFC wes right, correct,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
One appearance in twenty three years the first year home
Gn gets here. They go to in the AFC West again,
they go to play they win the division, go to
the playoffs. Holman goes takes them to the super Bowl, the
first Super Bowl Seattle's ever had.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Had the number one offense in the league. He took
Matt Hassebec. Matt Hasselbec. He traded for Matt Hassebec efter
his rookie year with the Packers. Who was Matt Hassebec
in nineteen ninety nine. He was a.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Rookie backup to Brett Favre, who was not even invited
to the NFL Combine. Hassebec loves to retell this story.
Nobody in the NFL voughted to invite him to the Combine.
He Andy Reid tells the story, retold it this week
at the Super Bowl that Holmgren sent him to go
scout Matt Hasselbeck. Homegren staffed it in the nineteen ninety
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eight Packers team and they end up taking it. Ron
Wolf and the Packers end up taking Matt Hasselbeck without
him going to the Combine. And then a year later,
Holmgren said, Matt Haswack's going to be my starting quarterback.
The guy who didn't even get an invite to the
Combine gets three Pro Bowls and takes Seattle to its
first Super Bowl. Shawn Alexander becomes an NFL MVP in
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Mike Holmgren's offense. Walter Jones to this day talks about
culture and how Mike Holgren deserves to be in the
Hall of Fame for how he just single handedly changed
the culture in Seattle, he said. Walter Jones said this
week he told the Infernesse at the Cracking Game the
other night of the Cracking Radio Show, a television show,
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that before him, he showed us the right way, and
Jones' quote was, he did it the right way for
me personally, he's my Hall of Fame coach Joan said,
because he came here and he changed the standard here
in Seattle. When I came here, he was like, hey,
listen to me, We'll get you all to the Super Bowl.
He changed the culture here in Seattle. Joan said, everyone
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got used to winning. You can see that now now
it's the standard. Mike Hongren said that he leaves, he
goes and comes with the Browns as their president didn't
like it, didn't fit. Browns were a backwards organization at
the time, just trying to restart.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
After the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yanked him, Art Model took him to Baltimore and then
they restarted as an expansion team.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But he always loved Seattle. His wife Kathy worked downtown
volunteering her time at medical clinics. Three daughters grew up here.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
They stayed here and now they live in Kirkland. They
are here today waiting for the call from the Hall
of Fame to see if he will be immortalized forever.
And when you look at his resume, Chris compared to
Dick for Meal Say and Bill Kawer, those are two
coaches who are in the Hall of Fame. His resume
is as good or better, Cower and Vermeil did it
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in somewhat of a vacuum.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
They did it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
In ver Meal's case, he get the Eagles to the
Super Bowl, and then the Rams he won it in
Saint Louis, and then he also coached.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
The Kansas City, of course.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But Bill Kauer was a Kansas City chiefs assistant who
then became a Pittsburgh Steelers head coach and won a
Super Bowl. But home Greuns tree runs from Green Bay
to Seattle, from San Francisco, and it also has a
coaching tree that those other two do not. Andy Reid,
John Gruden just a name too, and that alone. You
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can't write the history of the NFL in the nineteen
nineties into the two thousands without including Mike Holmgren. You
can't because you got to talk about how the Packers research,
You got to talk about Brett farre you got to
talk about the Seahawks get to their first Super Bowl.
That's all Mike Congram And to me, it's beyond dou
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that he's in the Hall of Fame. It it probably
will happen. Now, all signs are it's going to happen tonight.
Joe Montana said, quote Mike Holmgren is one of the
greatest coaches in NFL history who belongs in the Hall
of Fame. Steve Young said, you can be a great offense,
you can be a great offensive coordinator, you can be
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a great head coach. Not many people can do both.
Steve Young says he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Mike Comra, Brett farre says, I know without a doubt
I would not be here today. I would not be
where I am today without him. Three MVPs that I
was fortunate to win are a direct result of his
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coaching and leadership. That's Brett Pharr the Hall of Famer,
and Holmgren has very funny stories about Brett Fahr. Chris,
I don't know why he's not in the Hall of
Fame already. I think that's about the end. In about
five should better. What did Lebron said when he got
his first championship. It's about damn time.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
So I can't wait to see home Gren being greatness
because he deserves it.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
We'll be popping radio champagne corks here on the show
tomorrow across the station. If it does happen.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
We have a big plan of guests and people that
we hope we'll be talking about Mike Homeran getting into
the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five.
We should all be finding out around six seven pm,
six thirty seven pm tonight on the NFL Honors Show.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Four four to five one, to tell him we're do
text on his game time. It's Telly time. Your favorite
memory of Mike home Gren. I hope you weren't one
of those fans that were throwing snowballs at him in
his final home game in two thousand and eight when
the Seahawks were four and twelve playing in the snow
against the New York Jets. I'll never forget that. I
was like, whoa holgrind? And I still laugh about that
he was dodging snowballs coming off the field after that
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bad season that ended his tenure in two thousand and eight,
four and four.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
To five one.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Your favorite memory of Mike Congren For those Seahawks fans
that have been here more than day two, we'll read
back your text next in the Telemortier text line four nine,
four to five one.
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You know what time is When the music plays like this,
it means it's either looking knights on the radio, which
we're running out of time to put on, or it's
to reading back your text and the telemoti your text
line four nine four five one. When it's game time,
it's Tully time, and it is once again the latter.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Two five three. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Honestly loved when Homegren talked about the poor officiating of
that Seahawks Super Bowl. He just said what everyone except
Pittsford fans was thinking. I remember that Super Bowl like
it was yesterday. It was an embarrassment, but he Carrol
made up for it, So we're even now.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Darryl Jackson did push off in the end zone. Damn
all that. Ben Wrothlisberger did not score. Matt Ausbeck was
not holding on an interception return. What they just was? Yeah, Holngrid,
he sure played to the crowd, didn't he that day?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh? Yeah, they had those of you who weren't living
in Seattle. The Seahawks came home from Detroit the day
after losing Super Bowl forty twenty one ten to the
Steelers in a mid controversial referee in officiating, and they
had a ceremony inside Loomanfield fan rally, and Holger got
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up on the stage and said, I didn't know. I
knew we had to play the Steelers. I didn't know
we had to go play against the referees too.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yep, played right along. He got his head slapt by
the league for that. He doesn't care.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
He doesn't From the two five three I got Keith
Coach Holmgren's story is proof the Browns will never win.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The Browns. I feel so badly for Browns fans.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
As a native Ohioan, I'm a Steeler fan, but I
feel bad for Browns. Mmm.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I hear you on that anyone loved the story you
shared from the two five three.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That story was great, brought tears, ten year old stud.
Thanks for sharing. He's a ten year old stud, Trey Howard.
If you missed it, I posted on my twitter feed
that g bel Seattle twitter x the story of Trey
Howard plane crash survivor, Eagles fan extraordinaire and that most
awesome big brother.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
That's really cool. Thanks.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Also great story, Greg, Thank you for the two five
three as well, and then news about Big Leonard Williams
getting some money moved around, getting it up front for
the back end purposes of Hey, we want to do
this with the money wise, whether it's bringing and Gino,
extending Geno, excuse me, bringing back Ernest Jones, the whole gambit.
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From the two six They would have done the Geno
deal already if they were keeping him. Grub sabotage Howell
to make it look like the decision on Gino was
best for the team.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It was evident.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
That's an interesting sabotage theory or conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
That's a conspiracy. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You know who sabotaged Sam Howe himself, Sam House. Sam
How's preseason.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Actually I will, I will say, okay, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, the first play that when he came into the
game after Gino got hurt against the who are they playing? No,
yeah it was the Packers. You're right, that first play
they ran a screen to JSN. Had Jasin went the
correct way, I'm not saying Sam how would have played
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a better game, but he would have got off to
a better start because JSN just.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Went the wrong way. Like that just ruined it.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You lose yards on your first pass play, that's not
a good start. So I give five percent of the
blame JASN for just running the wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Way five for fourteen twenty four yards in an interception
when Sam awad and the minus till because JSN did
something wrong. So yeah, it could have been better, but
it does. Those stats do not don't help his case.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
From the two five to three, I get the Seahawks
don't have a QB behind Geno, but at this point
continuing to pay him seems like a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
What's the alternative though?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I mean, start Sam Howe tank and go graft quarterback
next years. Some another Texers suggesting that's not how the
Seahawks are wired.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They haven't done that. They don't start over. They haven't yet.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
And I'm not sure Jody Allen is given that edict
in that direction to John Schneider. I don't think when
Schneider pitched his path and Pete Carroll pitched his path,
that Schneyder's path was I'm gonn rip it down to
studs and draft a quarterback high in the twenty twenty
seven draft.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think that was part of the plan. I don't, but.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I'm with you on that one hundred percent. Grave also
asked earlier in the show NBA you guys in sign
is gone, you don't care or all the above. So
from the four two five, I used to be a
minor NBA fan. However, since losing the team, I don't
care about the NBA boycott at Starbucks and the NBA
won't give them a dime or a minute of my attention.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Good for you. That's hard to do in Seattle. Boycott's Starbucks.
It's almost like boycotting gas stations.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
There's so many of them. They're everywhere.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
From the two oh six, Yes, I'm an NBA lover
or a B ball lover, even though we don't have
our Sonics here anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I think I should. I think you should talk about basketball.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I was a true Kobe fan, my allegiance with Luca
and the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now, ye, please keep talking ball, all right, Christmas? Love
that you know what I think of Starbucks. I think
of the press conference that Howard Schultz threw to announce
the selling of the team that I covered for the
Associated Press down at Seattle Center. When I walked into
that press conference, there were balloons, green and yellow balloons,
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and they were celebrating, and Howard Schultz got up there
celebrating the fact that he had just given the team
to these carpetbackers from Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
That's what I think of when I see Starbuck.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
From the two five to three, I would rather hear
NBA than Mariners talk. I feel like that might be
a popular statement made there two o six. Hate the
NBA so much for stealing our team, but I still
love the NBA.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Bring them back all in? Hang on, is that an
oxymoron there that I just rich?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Perhaps more local pro prospects please, I'm thinking that might
be towards the NFL with the Seahawks. I'm not sure.
From the two six NBA is broken and boring. B
square done with it long ago. Don't care for team
comes back to Seattle. I don't listen or change the
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station when NBA talk clost too long. Fair from the
four two five couldn't care less about the NBA or
you guys talking about it. Can't wait until the sounds
come back. But I don't even know how the NBA
has changed since they left. Doesn't sound like the same
guy I love back in the day. It's not it's
you have everyone's elite now. Everyone can do every position.
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It's position was basketball. That's what it is. There's no positions,
everyone can do it. There's no offensive play calls, there's
no sets. There's everyone standing around a three point line.
Dudes like Shay Alexander A. Shay, you want to clear
out do your thing, bro. He is fundamentally unstoppable. He
can score, get into the basket, he can score midi
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and if you leave him open, he's gonna make a three.
Not to mention, he's a six to eight guy that
can probably defend every point guarded than the league because
it's so tall. I'm sure the Clippers are like, what
did we just do? We had this kid, and we said,
you know what, Paul George for Indiana, We'll take him. Wow,
what a miss by that organization. I think Bomber would
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want to scream right now.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I would love to see an NBA playbook, an offensive
playbook today.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Uh, probably a lot of running.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Hey, get to your spots, and those spots are all
beyond the three point art or guys hanging out beyond
the three point arc.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Depends on your roster. I think the better.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I think the more talent you have, the less plays
you need to run. Now, in a pinch, you need
a quick bucket. You can run a play. But if
you got talent like okc hey, shay, what you want?
Oh four low cool a boy, clear out. I'm getting
to the elbow and I'm gonna make a decision. If
he's playing tight and a defender is helping, I got
doored on the wing. Oh, check's coming back? A check,
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P and R, pick and roll all day. They can't
stop it. Why would we stop doing it?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
We are describing how the NBA has changed since the
Sonics were here.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's too tough, man, everyone's elite. Your fives are now
hitting threes. Like to do with that there's like five
big men that are literally staying in the pain. There's
no more of Oh yeah, every NBA team at the center,
that's just big in the paint. That's no longer existing.
Everyone look at when Biama perfect example, he is a
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guard at seven eleven. I'm exaggerating his high, but you
get my point, Like, there's not much you can do
so in that scenario, clear out.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh they want to put a six y five A
throw it up to him.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You can easily run plays from when you get to
the playoffs, but the regular season, or run him.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know who's the first guy of that?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Speaking of when the song shirt, Kevin Garnett with the
old Nague ticket Minnesota Timberwolves was one of the first
ones to be seven foot ish and do all that.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And now that you're right, they all do.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's it's the game has changed so much, and it's
it's getting crazier and crazier. You think Victor's it, No,
there's gonna be some other kid that's going to be
just as crazy an athletic.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's just going to continue to happen.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
That's why I ban you know, my my communist Chris
comments from.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, you would have lived in all birthing of children. No,
at least for the NBA. Liked tall. You're tall. You're
not going to the NBA. You gotta find it China,
you know?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
And Ben and the two oh six is between covering
John Gruden and Mike Holmgren. Has either of them told
you the story of Gruden getting hit by a deer
on his bicycle up in Green Bay when Gruden was
a Home Grind assistant. No, I can't believe I've never
heard that story. Ben, You're gonna have to type it
out and we're gonna replay it.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I think we might be having Gruden on the air
tomorrow to text. Someone did like, hey, can you find
out the truth to the story.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I would love to hear that story. I haven't heard
that story. I think you'll get amped up telling it.
Let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Six to six text said love your show, thank you.
And if they passed Mike Homgren again while Bill Kawer
wears a gold jacket, then that Hall of Fame is
a bigger joke than Pete rose list Baseball Hall.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Of Fame, which is a whole other story. Right, You
got that right? Pete was alternates.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You're not in the Hall of Fame, and forness is
right outside the door I'm looking through, which has a
glass thing that I can see him. He's dressed for
a hockey pregame show on television. He joins us next,
leading into his show from twelve to three on ninety
three point three kJ r f M. Welcome back to
the Greg Bellt Show with Christopher Kidt on ninety three
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point three kjr FM. It's a cracking game day. I
know that because Ian Farnessa's hair is perfectly koiked.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yes, no hat today, no local TV. Okay, Yeah, so
I just got to go make an appearance.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So what do you do.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I'll sit in the press box watch the game, get ready
for our Saturday broadcast, an ESPN Plus broadcast. Yeah, and
that's still.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Only by subscription, right or pirrating?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yes, or Hulu. I don't ask the powers to be
if I see somebody tonight. I'm curious that there are
games that these aren't. These ESPN Plus games are exclusive
national This seems odd, Yeah it does, and I did
see there. There's a story of the day on some
of the ratings. The on T and TNESPN aren't great
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this year for the NHL on ABC.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They're up for I guess, for whatever it's worth.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
But one of the things they were talking about is
a lot of some of these games on Thursdays, Wednesdays
and Thursdays, when the national games have they haven't been
exclusive to those networks like the local affiliate or local
broadcasters can carry them. We haven't been able to do
that any national game we've been off the Crack and
Hockey Network US. Yeah, so I don't know why that is.
It's odd in that sense.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
It's final.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
We'll take the day off and get back at it
on Saturday. But but yeah, it's odd. But yeah, I
don't think it helps grow the game when you put
it behind a paywall. The NFL can do that. I
don't think the NHL can, or or frankly the NBA
or Major League Baseball. There's a there's a precedent. Let's
maybe guys remember used to have a soccer league in
this country called the MLS. They kind of disappeared when
they went behind that paywall.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
They stild out the Apple and.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
That was just the dumbest thing ever, man dumbest thing ever.
You know what, small ratings on ESPN and Fox are
better than any ratings on a paywall. It's true MLS people.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But Yeah, enjoyed your talking with Mike Hombran yesterday.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I particularly like the fact that he says that he's
got to go to Hamilton Saturday night, so he ain't
going to New Orleans. He can still get there by
the Super Bowl and to be honored at the game
itself by Sunday.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Yeah, let's let's see what he's Let's let's see when
he Let's see what what what if he just shows
up on TV tonight New Orleans because he's not he's
not doing the Softy Show today. They're notanding on doing
that tomorrow. Usually it's today, they're doing it tomorrow. What
he's doing it tomorrow with Dick apparently.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
And he's supposedly doing it in the five twenty bar
and grilled tomorrow at four o'clock.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I'd say all those things are to TBA or TBD
to be determined.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So I think we'll see.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I'm at the risk at Jenson Ay, and I think
it would be one of the more surprising things in
the Seattle sports scene in a while if Mike Combran
doesn't get in inducted today.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, I don't even I just can't fathom why not
Condoda wrote some I don't know if it was his
headline or I mean, I know guys don't write headlines,
but a weird story by Kidella like that was really
hard now for him to get in and you read
the story, it's like, no, it's it's kind of actually
a little bit. I don almost the easier, but it's
about the same path. He's already a finalist. That's the
biggest hard across.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And he's the only coach finalist, which.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
And the builder waste a guy in nineteen twenties. Stop it,
just stop it. Just no, it's not even football back then,
so stop it.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
But I was researching my story for the News Tribune,
I realized Mike Congrean met Kathy when they were twelve,
you know that.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And the story goes that he had asked her to
marry him when he was fifteen.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
We see how we're doing that big man, just doing
that big show going. I was just get married. She said,
he's in charge back then.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And then he gets he gets married on June fifteenth
because it's his birthday, so we'll never forget his anniversary.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
That's not a surprise.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Either now he's not in charge of anything in his
own house exactly between the daughters and the wife.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And he's awesome. Dude.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Man, I think we're all just crossing our fingers hoping
it up and tomorrow we can have a big celebration
and where we go.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
One of the coolest things about being at KJR is
getting to see my home a lot more.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty awesome. It's pretty pretty cool.
And he likes doing it. At least that's what he says.
I don't know claims he likes doing it. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Just the text line's asking. The Cracking Game is on
ESPN Plus, not Amazon tonight, ESPN Plus. Yeah, it's no
Prime Video either, No prime video. Prime Video is part
of us, the Crack and Hafey Network. So yeah, it's
on like ESPN Plus exclusive tonight.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
What he had today on this show, Matt Hasselback right
off the top of the show is going to talk
to us about it. We'll talk to Matt about playing
for Mike and why he should be a Hall of Famer.
We'll do that. He made home and yell a line
he drove him. I'm sure Matt's got a lot of
stories to tell. I'm really looking forward to this coming up.
Corby Smith at one o'clock. He's got a new venture
out there. We'll talk to him about that, which is
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kind of cool. And Gary Parrish all things college basketball,
probably touching a little bit on the NBA trade deadline.
Gary as well. Two o'clock today. So Busy Show is
always on a Thursday.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And Forness is up now.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Thanks Greg Bell and Christopher Kidd, thanking you for listening
yet again. We'll do it again tomorrow from ten to noon.
I'm off to have a colonoscopy. Eeha, can't wait for that.
We'll see what condition I'm in tomorrow ten to noon.
The ends up next to ninety three point three K
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