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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everyone at this point, you bring a new manager in,
is he gonna is a guy that's been hitting two ten,
striking a hard times.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Send the message of we're done, We're done.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, that's what that mess should have been months ago.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
No, And but to your months ago, they were actually
in first place, right, they were actually playing really well.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Firing the manager with thirty seven games left, it just
strikes me as reactionary.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Just but that's how bad it's gotten.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's the crazy Scott Services fault.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, someone's gotta take the blame, right, it's kind.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Of the blade needs to start at the top. That's
true as well. But they're not going to fire themselves.
That'll take them back. We've talked about this, Griz. It'll
take an owner. The owner needs a step in and
make these changes, not the general manager or the president.
Will the owner do that? The answer is no, And
so Scott's Service is going anywhere. So now we're back
to square one. Go get better players. That's what the
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off season was for they and win with this team.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That is what they did not do in the off season.
They had an opportunity, So that's that's that's Scott serves
his fault it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But well, that's fire him anyway. But thirty seven games
to go don't have an answer. The answer is not
to fire Scott servis the fire. Jerry Depoto and the
people who put that team together. Man, I am you
throw a bunch of rocks in a bag and expect
Service to make gold out of that. Make fire's fault. Hey,
he got rocks, who put in the rocks? Get the
rock builder? He needs to go.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think people will probably text in and say, just
get rid of the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's the question of the day. We're going to talk
about it and through the end of this segment, Scott
Service does he need to be fired? Is it his fault?
Thirty seven games left? Would you fire Scott's Service? Yes?
Or knowing why? Four nine four five one on the tunnel,
we'll do text line. Pretty easy for us to sit
here in radio chairs and car chairs and talk about
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somebody else's job with a life. We'll put in perspective
that JV contest you saw in the preseason game Saturday night,
and again, far more important was what I saw that
last week. This is the team outing they had Thursday
night in downtown Nashville. We'll talk all about that. If
there was ever a week that was not what you
see on television in a preseason game, it was that one.
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At eleven am. We're going to talk quarterbacks. We're trying
to talk to we need still talk to some Steelers
beat writers about the Russell Wilson justin Field saga in Pittsburgh.
Not quite going as planned for Russell Wilson so far
in the preseason. There all kinds of calls that Justin
Field should be the quarterback, not really committals from Mike
Comlin other than to say Russell Wilson has been the
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number one. We were going to try to talk to
some Steelers beat writers who may be on the practice field,
So if we don't get to that, we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about Sam Howe best day of Sam howe'se
Seahawks career, as short as it's been, but including all
the practices, Saturday was his best day. We'll talk about
that and more again your text four nine, four to
five one on tell them we'll do text line. We've
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already posited the first question, the question of the day
to the Mariners fire manager Scott's Service eleven forty five,
I Infnessel joined me pick up the remote equipment that
I had in Tennessee all last week. I lugged in
here today, hand it off to him and we'll talk
heading into his show from twelve to three. Here on
ninety three point three KJR fram your headlines brought to
you by Venue Kings dot Com. The Mariners, they were
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at the new low point of their seeking season. What
fifth consecutive loss on Friday seven to two to the Pirates.
Then yesterday began their series finale in Pittsburgh with an
infield single from Julia Rodriguez, busting it down the line
in a still healing high ankle sprain. Then this happened
from cal Rawley. That's a bullet. That's a rocket. Ain't
going in the allegator. But I don't work too. I'm
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two run homer by cal Rawley here in the first sitting,
and our Marriners two punts top early two nothing Seattle
big cow home run number twenty seven RBIs seventy seven
and seventy eight. Hey, now, who else would it be
to take up of the pressure off of the offense
of Cow. That's our friend Dave Simms, Mike Flowers, and
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Sports first inning, two run homer for Kyle Rawley. Boy,
they needed that to get a good start, not into
the Hain into the Alleghanians. They've since said, that's the
river that's right behind the right field stands. There at
a beautiful PNC Park. By the way, if you've never
been to PNC Park in Pittsburgh, the finest baseball park
in America, it's amazing. Sightlines, views of the city, ease
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it from downtown, walkability along the river. It's a great,
great park. So the home run sent George Kirby the
Maroons off to a ten to three win in Pittsburgh.
Yesterday you had Houston won for the ninth time in
ten games. So now the ms remained four games behind
the trash Cans for first place in the AO West.
Now for the Mariners, it's off to Los Angeles for
three games against the Dodgers, who happened to be twenty
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one games over five hundred. Despite all kinds of problems
with their pitching staff, they're only a half game out
from the best record in the Major leagues. Chris with
that lineup is they may not even have Freddy Freeman
in this series. It may not matter Mookie Betts and
of Tony and everybody else watched the Mariners get to
sweep here. Yeah for four five one, the wager line
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is open. Chris needs a make up money for the
twenty home run bet. He's got a Nulia Rodriguez. You
can kiss that money goodbye. He's gonna double down on it.
Better sweep of the Dodgers in a month.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And I need Julio to hit a home run every
week and then some this is this is bad.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
He's two a week at this point.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I'm just looking for one and maybe he gets really
hot and has I don't know three in a week.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You'd get good odds on Mariners sweeping Dodgers and absolutely
put ten dollars down. Win a thousand, win ten thousand.
Brian Wu gets his chance, and that Brian Wu has
been the best starter they've had, even during this down swing.
He got five and one with a two something ERA
despite two oh something e R a two five R.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I haven't pitched throughout every series.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't care. Yeah, and it's time to take the
training was off him and let him pitch as long
as he wants to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So that's a reason why you could fire Scott Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I know, is that his choice?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But I was gonna say, I know it might not
be his choice. But also we'll get to a little bit.
Continue with headlines. I hear you, man, No, it's you're
one of these guys. Just one's heads chopped to have
heads chop. Oh, I'll continue with headlines.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We'll get to it. Brian Woo tonight, he's been their
best pitcher since the Manners lost that ten game divisionally.
You remember that back in June they had one of those.
He starts for Seattle ten game winner. Gavin Stone pitches
for the Dodgers six to forty. First pitch on Root Sports. Houston,
by the way, is hosting Boston, who's on the edge
of the playoff race in the American League themselves. The
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Seahawks preseason game Satura Night in Nashville really was a
JV scrimmage. Seattle held out thirty one veterans, Tennessee held
back thirty eight. But it was the best day practice
or game for Sam Howe yet. Eleven for fourteen one
fifty three in the first half for how and a
touchdown pass on a go route to the end zone
to the eastop Winston we're gonna talk more about in
detailed next segment. That was the seahawks reserves only touchdown
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of the night. Tylecotta got a tipball interception in the
fourth quarter. It's set up Jason Myers's field goal for
a fifteen to thirteen lead with a few minutes lapt than.
The Titans responded with a drive to the winning field
goal in the final play, sixteen to fifteen. They win.
Mike McDonald was not happy. He doesn't like winning or
losing in anything. He didn't like how his defense didn't
stop the run late in the game, allowed the Titans
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to move down the field. He didn't like a lot
of the second half. But there are some guys who
weren't going about half the guys on the field in
the fourth quarter aren't going to be on the team
next week. Cut days now, when we ate eight days away,
I'll talk much more about how who helped himself, who
else helped themselves, and the bigger picture of the Seahawks
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four days in Nashville coming up. Saunders lost in the
League Cup quarterfinals at LAFC at home, three to zero.
The next place Saturday at Minnesota, the Storm came back
off the WNBA's Olympic breaks by losing at the Buzzer
Friday night at Atlanta, and then Caitlyn Clark and Indiana
beat him yesterday's ninety two to seventy five. Clark quite
a rookie season for twenty three more points nine more assists.
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Yesterday she broke the league's rookie record for assist in
the season. The Storm was seventeen and ten to night.
They play at Washington tomorrow. By the way, talk about
the Storm. We were in Martin's Barbecue Place and downtown
Nashville on Friday night, the same place that the Seahawks
had been the night before, and Michael Sean de gar
was with me every buddy. That man was into the
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end of the Storm game. He had wager on the
Storm just winning on money mane I told you they
got the young girl at home and the wife. Take
it easy, buy some diapers. Man, he's worried about money
line the Storm winning that game. They should have. There
were seventeen and eight in Atlanta, seven and seventeen, and
he's practically standing on the picnic table that we're on,
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jumping up and down about the end of the game.
The Storm come back, they tie it, and then an
inexcusable overplay defensively down on the low block, and the
last play allows a free basket basically on the basement.
He sure that wasn't great. Sure his reaction was all.
So what's he did? He was not muted in the skip.
So what you do? He looks up and sees the
Connecticut Sons game on the West Coast is about the start.
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He doubles down and bets on the Oh, there you go.
He's not losing tonight. I'm not losing. I will win
a bet somehow, some way. That's why casinos have gold
plated bathroom accessories. And see, I can't do what Mike does.
I can.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I can say, hey, Greg, you think you have the
Seahawks minus three against the Broncos. I'll take the Broncos
plus three. Greg's like twenty bucks it is. Then that's
what I do. That's how I bet. I can't be
I don't do that, by the way, But you're being hypothetical.
I'm just saying, no, me and Greg are going to
make this bet. Okay, guys, you.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Are, okay, that's news to me and missus me. No.
I mentioned justin Fields and Russell Wilson. That talker who's
gonna be the starting quarterback is heating up with Pittsburgh.
Other NFL quarterback news, the Raiders named your kog Gardner Minshew.
Come on now, starting quarterback over Aiden O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Are we surprised?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
No? Are we okay? Although my buddy Victafer we've had
him on the show and friend of mine for all
him and others the Raiders quarterback competition have been two
crashing careening cars going down a hill. But I guess
Gardner Minshew wasn't as bad as Aidan O'Connell. So Guardan.
She's gonna be the Raiders starter in the opener against
the Chargers. And did you say, I bet you saw
this since your social media Maven, did you see Tyreek
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Hill social media beef with Noah Lyles the Olympic idea?
I did, and now he wants to challenge Lyles to
a fifty yard race.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'm sorry. Tyreek is very fast. He is probably arguably
one of the fastest players in the National Football League,
but no Allows one of the fastest people on the planet.
He's proven it. There is no chance Tyreek would win
an a fifty Well notice he didn't ask for one
hundred well, because he's a smart man. Tyreek would make
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it interesting, but I think Noah would just end up
wrapping things up pretty quickly. Noah is different. Noah is
again fast people on the planet. He's fastest in football.
You know what he can do, though, he can be
like a DK Metcalf and racing one hundred meters, which
you said, and I know he will not do. DK
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was comfortable and okay with losing. He knew what was
at risk, but he wanted to challenge himself. So salutes
to d ran like.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
A ten to six ten three, Yeah, ten three and
finished sixth is the biggest No I'm saying, that's what
point point those track hundred meter guys. You run at
ten three and you finished.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Six he's And all I'm saying is I love that
Tarika is gonna talk and oh yeah, he needs to
worry about Bruh. Stay away from it. The track is
not what you want to do, man, and if you
wanted to, it's very simple. They have trials during the offseason.
You can definitely go out and test the mount.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Sack relays like DK Metcalf did and.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The one player I do think would compete. Well, potentially,
is Devin a chang. He actually ran track at Texas
A and M and A ten to two in the hundred,
so he would have a better chance and air quotes
to hang with Noah Lloles. But Tarik nah Man, I
love I love your speed, your That's.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Why you were voted the number one player in the
NFL by your peers because you're a dynamic You are
the most dangerous person in the league. He was voted
number one.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, he's voted number one player in the NFL, in
the NFL Top one hundred.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I would I don't think that's true. Well, who would
you have ahead of him? I don't think a fast
wide receiver is the most best player. Who would you
have ahead of a quarterback? For instance, Patrick Mahomes who
can win games single handedly pass behind his back. I
think he's the number one player in the league. The
best part about it is year by year. So what
Tyreek did last year was I would say far more better.
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Although they I disagree where do Dolphins go out?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But they're just looking at what that specific player did
not overall. That's why I like it year by year
because year by year, I think next year, Tyreek will
not be number one again.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
If you pulled third twenty two general managers and thirty
two head coaches and said, what's the first player you
would take, hands down is the best player in the
league to build your team, it would not be Tyreek
Kill no way.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think a couple would take no way. To your point,
it wouldn't be. It'd be maybe one or two. And
even then probably anyone's taking Patrick Mahomes And that's fair.
But based on the season he had last year, and
it's a year by year vote, he got the vote
this year, and again, I don't think Tyreek is gonna
do it again for next season unless he breaks a
new record and doubles down and they do win something,
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they make it to the postseason, they win and make
it to this, I don't know, the divisional round and
get to the conference championship. If they do that, that's
even a bigger case for Tyreek Hill because, as you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
They didn't do nothing. But I mean, so he's fast, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, he's fast and he's dangerous and he can get opened.
You just can't stop him.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But where's his team? Well that that's not a team award,
but my point is if he's the most dangerous, best
player in the league, he should be elevating his team.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The best player in the league among a thousand bla basketball.
Basketball is a little different. There's only four other people
on the court. You can the best player on the
court and elevate everyone else's game. Unfortunately, Tyreek only plays
one position and that's wide receiver and he doesn't play.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Defense, right, And that's my point is the best player
in the NFL is the best quarterback in the NFL, period,
because he can elevate his team like unlike any other player.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And that's why I like that it's yearly, so every
year it's going to be different because in that scenario,
they could just change the whole format of the Top
one hundred and just say, to your point, I guess
it's the top one hundred, but we're gonna look at
it at a different angle, and it's not going to
be per year. It's going to be the last five years.
And then that scenario, I think Patrick Mahomes wins that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Patrick Mahons still wins it for one year. I think
ty won the freaking Super Bowl. Man.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I know we won the Super Bowl, but Tyreek was
putting up crazy Greek was home in Mexico during the
Super Bowl, And I guess you can also kind of
look at it. Maybe this is inaccurate, but maybe it's
a regular season award award as opposed to a entire season,
because you're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He was home. Really is the popular top one hundred
things are hilarious anyway, it's just filler for offseason in preseason. Good.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But look at this, it's a good discussion. Yeah, we're
talking about it exactly, Yes, but continue.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Four, nine, four or five. One your best player in
the NFL. Is he a wide receiver on a team
that goes out in the first round every single year
because they play in cold weather. Where is he a
quarterback who lifts his team to a Super Bowl championship
four times in the last six years.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's hard to argue, man, because Tyreek was just disgusting.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think he had a just under one hundred and
twenty catches. I think eighteen. The point is, you could
win a game against the Dolphins by letting Tyreek Hill
run up and down the field. The Seahaws are gonna
try to do this in Week three. He might get
ten catches for two hundred yards and they could still
lose the game because it depends on what the quarterback
play is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But that's how he stood out. He is still sure.
I agree that, and that's why players voted him the
number one and it was probably very close. I'm sure
if he taliated Patrick Mahomes got lost by two votes
or something. I don't think it was as bad as
it seemed. When you see Tybreek Hill was the number
one player in the NFL last season based on his peers,
and that's what That's another thing. The other players voted.
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It wasn't sure, it wasn't a I don't think it's
that bad in my opinion. I think when you have
other players voting for you, whether it's Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey,
whoever it may be, and those are his former teammates,
and they say, oh, yeah, he was the number one
player last season, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I bet if you ask the Dolphins players who would
you rather have Tyreek Kill or Patrick Mahomes, they'd answered
Patrick Mahomes. Well, they're probably going to say they love too,
just like Tyreek does. I'm just saying if you said,
if you said the Dolphins players in the locker room.
A or B do you want on your team? You
can only have one Tyreek Hill or Patrick Mahomes. Fifty
three out of fifty three players would say Patrick.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Doesn't that change the dynamic of the now team?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
To be the number one player in the NFL? If not,
even because.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You're picking who you want, We're just saying who was
the best player last season?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Patrick Mahomes. I think Tyreek deserved it and got it
at number one. I think he deserved it because you
got to remember how many receivers have been number one.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
But there's a reason for that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But do you see the numbers he put up? I
just it up exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's why that got him a vacation to Cabo in January.
There's nothing he can do about the defense and them
not being able to play on the colt and he's
a part of that. Just not the best player in
the NFL unless you're Jerry rice in is primed. A
wide receiver in the NFL is not the best player
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Right, So here we're gonna do We're gonna exclude quarterbacks.
How can you do that?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Easy?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Because you're gonna make the argument that Chris the best
player is always the quarterback, and the listener I'm gonna say,
let's eliminate quarterbacks and just have it for all the
other positions. And Tyreek Hill wins in a landslide, bingo,
I win.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I'm out four night, four or five one to tell
him we'll do text line. Scotch Service thirty seven games
left in the season. The Mariners are four games back.
The Morning Show spent a long time talking about way
in it. The last caveat was unless the Mariners win
the series against the Dodgers, Scott Service should be fired.
Do you agree? We'll read back your text at eleven
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thirty up Next. Sam Howell changed some minds during the
Seahawks week in Tennessee. And it's not just what he
did in the game that you saw Saturday night. That's
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Speaker 2 (18:27):
Don't get anything.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That was Kate Scott Michael Robinson on the King five
television call Nashville on Saturday night. The best play of
the second preseason game. Samehow to esaup Winston Junior, the
former Coop Wide receiver end of the first quarter. That
was an exquisite throw, a really good throw over the cornerback.
I would submit it might even have been a better
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catch late hands. The late hands were brilliant. That was
Tyler Lockett like the way Winston did that late hands.
What does that mean? Well, cornerbacks in press coverage one
on one have their head and back turned to the quarterback,
and they're trained and coached and have done for years
to react to a receiver's head and hands going to
the ball to catch it. That's when you turn your
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head and knock the pass away, or if you don't
even turn your head, you just swipe down on the
guy's arms and rip the ball from his arms. But
what happens when the receiver doesn't show any hands, and
that's exactly what he do. You if you look closely
at that play, Winston doesn't even move his hands until
the ball is over every shoulders and onto east up
Winston's chest plate. That was exquisitely late hands. If he
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throws his hands up earlier, Chris, I think that pass
gets deflected.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, And that's that's what a good receiver does. They
know when to keep It's called deception in reality, just
want to receive the cornerback to thinking, Okay, when's the
ball coming, when's the ball coming. At the last second,
the ball is there, and there's nothing you can do.
The only way you can make a plan on it
is if you are if you turn your head, which
the dB did not. He was face guarding him, and
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you're trying to get your hands where his hands are
when he goes up to make the catch. But because
it's so late, the timing of it, you just don't know.
And then by the time he throws his hands up,
the ball's caught. There's nothing you can do. And that
was a good, a great throw by Sam. He was
comfortable and it was just one two bam. It's what
you see in practice when they warm up, I mean
T shirts and short yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And after practice, that was the point I was gonna
make Chris thank you, because they have worked a lot.
After practice when I'm interviewing guys and everybody else is
throwing sausages and footballs into the crowd. At the training camp,
he saw Winston and Sam Howe. We're running those plays
against air, and he was practicing those late hands. I
asked Winston in Nashville Saturday night. After the game, where'd
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you learn the late hands? Who coached your credit for that?
Or where do you get that? He said, you know what,
I've been doing that since I was a kid back
in South San Francisco and Sarah High School. And he's
always done that. And part of the reason at five
eleven and under two hundred pounds that Esav Winston is
in the NFL when everyone told him he couldn't play
in the Pac twelve, when everyone told him he'd never
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make it in the NFL, never even sniff a training camp,
is because of skills like that. Sam Howe said after
the game that Estop Winston has the best ball skills
he's ever seen. Now, he's a young twenty three and
the second year in the NFL, so third year, second
starting last year with Washington, but he says he's got
the best ball skills of anyone he's ever seen. And
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we're talking about maybe the sixth wide receiver on this team.
So last week in Nashville, it wasn't just the game
the first half Saturday night, Howe was very good in
the scrimmages as well. It was twos against twos, and
how was with the second team line against the Titans
second team, and he was very good, very accurate, much
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more accurate than he was in early training camp. Chris.
Before they left for Tennessee, I can tell you this
that they weren't sure. They thought they had something in
Sam Howe, why they traded for him to replace Drew
Locke essentially, but they weren't sure because they hadn't seen
in training camp as scattered as he had been, as
inaccurate as he had been. But now a week later
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after Tennessee, they know they have a guy who's a
viable number two, somebody who can come in who's done
it before and he can be accurate. And right now
they haven't run the whole Ryan Grub offense, but they
feel a heck of a lot better if something happens
to Gino Smith injury wise than they did before they
left for Tennessee. That's what Sam Howe did this past week.
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He may have changed your minds and validated the thing fans,
your minds, but I can tell you that day to day,
having watched him for all sixteen of the training camp
practices in now two preseason games, that was a reassuring
week for Sam howe to show why he is here
and why he could be. We'll see the quarterback of
the future. We'll see not only were they on the
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field good, they were really good. The Seahawks were really
good answering the intensity challenge on Wednesday and Thursday. Thursday night,
they went to Martin's Barbecue Joint. I mentioned that I
went there Friday night. I went there because all the
Seahawks were talking about how great this place was. On
Thursday night, they rented out the top floor of the place.
It had cornhole, it had darts, it had ping pong tables,
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and had these buffet tables full of pig and breef,
brisket and barbecue chicken and roast turkey and catfish, and
it was a smorgas board. Of course, three hundred pounds
football players crushed that, but they also had an open mic. Chris.
Because in Nashville, for those who haven't been, those who've
been know this, every establishment, pretty much short of a
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gas station, has its stage. I mean, I think the
donut shops have a stage. I think the White Castle
down the street from the hotel has a stage. Everyone
has a stage because they all play live music, country music,
so there was a stage in this restaurant, Martin's Barbecue
and downtown Nashville, and it became open night night for
the Seahawks and it became something of a roast of
the rookies would get up there and do skits and
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guys were balling up napkins and throwing it onto the
stage at players. Offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb got up. You
may have seen it on social media. And if you did,
Chris or fans saw it on social media. He was rapping.
I did. What did you think of that?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Havn't I loved it?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
It was great. Had his hood up. It was great
man forty eight year old Ryan Grub from Kingsley, Iowa.
This is what you want to see Kingsley, Iowa on
a map and see if he thought he did be
rapping like that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, he's very cultured. I'll say that he knew it
was going on. So yeah, that was cool. I know
the players enjoyed it and he. I think that's just
building that relationship between the players and coaching staff.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That was all Mike McDonald's idea. That's great, keep it going.
This is what Sam Howe had to say after the
game about the entire week in Tennessee, and.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I think it was a great idea to come out
here and bring you know, pretty much the whole organization
out here. It was we had a great dinner, I
think it was Thursday night, and guys really got to
spend a lot of time together. And I think that's
what builds a team, you know, was spending time, especially
away from home on these road trips together. And it's
something that's really important to Mike, is you know, building
that culture, building a family like atmosphere here with this team.
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And I think he's doing a great job of doing that.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
There was a Sam Howe postgame in the press conference.
We talked to him after the preseason game in Nashville.
One veteran Seahawk told me that the morning after that
Thursday night dinner that it was in his eight years
in the league, is the best event he's ever had
in the NFL. Just told me something. And when I
told Mike McDonald that later that day, he smiled. He
liked that McDonald is. I keep saying this. He's a
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fascinating guy from a leadership perspective to watch and follow.
I put the binoculars on him between plays and between series.
During the preseason games, he is so stoic. He is
always his head's in the tablet between series, trying to
study what the Titans defense or excuse me, offense was
doing to his Seahawk defense. In the formations, he's looking
at his play card, He's taking notes with his pen.
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He is Pete Carroll. We all know the chess match.
Carol knew that he'd been a coach since the seventies,
but once the game started, Carol was their cheerleader and
the guy who ran out and pat him on the back,
and the very emotional leader of the sideline and the team.
Mike McDonald is the opposite of that. McDonald loves to
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nerd out on football. He flat out amids it. He's
a football nerd. He loves to draw the place, he
loves to talk about formations and calls. And I got
to know him a lot more off the field in
the past week in Nashville, and he just loves talking
about ball and the inuity aspects of ball. But what's
fascinating about him is you can see him learning in
real time, almost by the day, learning and growing as
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a leader of men, of professional men and guys who
are fathers and husbands, and he's learning how to crack
the whip and demand of them, yet pull back and
give them too occasionally. And that dinner Thursday night was
given back another cookie. I talked about that. Mike Congran
always said, you give a player a cookie every once
in a while when you demand so much of him.
He's been very demanding in his training camp, but then
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he does stuff like he did Thursday night, packed all
the team on four buses and drove him the fifteen
minutes down the road in downtown Nashville and did that,
And that I think is going to have a lasting
effect into the season. This trip. There are guys are
going to answer his call in November December when times
are getting tough and they're losing and he's cracking whips
on him. They're not gonna think all he ever does
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is drive him because they'll remember things like Thursday night
in Nashville and the whole trip for that matter. I
don't know what Tyreese might not feel that way. I
joke with him after the game, are you gonna get
a trophy for how many snaps you've had in the
first two percent? Okay, come on, man, we need more
than tackles, but he's got to lead the steam and
lead the league in snaps. And yes, Mike McDonald will
not give him much credit for anything. We need more
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than tackles, We need the next level, We need play recognition. Yeah. Yeah,
he was the same way with Brian mur Byron Murphy early.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Now he's eased off. I don't know what you're talking
about next question.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Now he wants to defuse the hype that all of
that and more is what makes Mike McDonald's really fascinating
to follow and watch him his evolution as a first
time head coach, and it was on full display in Tennessee.
By the way, Chris, they may do it again next year.
It might not be in Nashville, but they're they're already
thinking about doing joint practices. I don't think Mike McDonald
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knew until he got here how far Seattle is to
travel places and how much of an undertaking is the
opposite side of the country. They just went to two
thousand miles and they brought the whole team. I'm talking
to security, communications, the trainers, multiple team doctors. It's like
they took the entire training they did. They took the
entire training camp from Renton and put it in Nashville
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for four days.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I need to see if they're hiring so I can
get a ring in a few years when they go
to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
My goodness, do you know that they bought the hotel
they stayed at. They just bought it out for four days.
They were the only ones staying there. The entire hotel
staff was waiting only on Seahawks. They closed the hotel
to the public. It's a Conrad Hotel of the Vanderbilt
campus on the west side of Nashville.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
They changed things a big time.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I walked in there to do the radio show. No, oh,
heete never left renting or oh, that's true, never did that.
I didn't even think of that. A lot of the
players told me. Jake Bobo told me. Buying Murphy told me.
It's the first time in their lives they've ever had
joint practices. They didn't do it in college, they didn't
do in high school. The players loved it. If you
ran a poll right now, the most popular person in
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Seattle Mike McDonald, If among athletes, Mike mom be number one,
they don't pick. The players loved that week last week,
and that is the accomplishment here, like the bye and
the McDonald got from his players as a first time
head coach before they've ever played a real game, just
skyrocketed with the week they had last week. They loved it.
But yeah, they rented the whole hotel out. I walked
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in there to do the show Friday. Oh you're with
the Seahawks. You're covering the Seahawks. Let me help you, sir,
and white linen service. The whole time, I said, because
that I was thinking, well, what about the other guests.
There were no other guests. They were all Seahawks. Yeah,
they went, They went all out, and the players absolutely
noticed all right on the field. Up next, we're gonna
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talk about who stood out, who helped himselves not just Saturday,
but in the joint practices, and maybe who didn't. Although
that's up next on ninety three point three KJRFM. Hi,
welcome back, Greg Bell, have the News Tribune and Christopher
Kidd joining you every weekday ten am the noon on
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ninety three point three KJRFM, Thank you for listening. Happy
Monday to you. We talked last segment of all the
Seahawks got done on and off the field in four
days in Nashville, Tennessee, Wednesday through Saturday. We'll talk about
who helped themselves most, who maybe didn't. First, little, let's
just get this off the top. Jason Myers missing extra
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points in first two preseason games. Each of the first
two I keep getting asked as they're a concern. Of course,
he'd makes his extra point Saturday, they don't lose sixteen
to fifteen, they'd probably be six teen sixteen and witting
ahead over time, they would have been not playing for
tie at the end. But I went through my mind
to ask after the game in Nashville late Saturday night
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Mike McDonald that question. He is he concerned about his kicker?
But McDonald I sensed that he was way into the
line of scrimmage and his defense and Tyrese Knight getting
more comfortable than than he is and needs to be
more comfortable in recognizing defenses and formations that he probably
wouldn't have given a very good answer. So I'm probably
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gona ask that today when they practiced this afternoon. But
four nine four five, I want to tell him what
do text line is concerned about Jason Myers. There are
no other kickers in training camp. It's not like the
Titans had two kickers. They have Nick Folk, seventeen year veteran,
and then they had an undrafted rookie from NC State
who boomed a fifty nine yarder. That kick would have
been good from sixty nine. It was like halfway up
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the uprights. That was the next to last field goal
that got the Titans in position to win the game
with his kick later on, I'm much closer. So they
have two kickers in camp, and they used them both
in the joint practices on last week. But it's just
been Jason Myers here for a long time now and
they gave him a new contract. So so far, there's
no signs of Seahawks are worried about that. Now. The
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nature of NFL kickers, Chris is you can pretty much
sign them off the street. They've signed forty year olds
before and you just go get a guy if you
really aren't happy with the guy you got. But so far,
I will say there was no concern that they need
to make a switch at kicker. Yeah, it's fine. I
think I think mis will be okay. I think there's
more pressing issues, as you mentioned, Mike McDonald is more
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concerned about the other things in football. I don't know,
defensive line, offensive line, is hey, Lucas going to be healthy?
These He didn't mention that, obviously, but these are things
that are far more concerning than our kicker.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And he made a kick later on in the game
that they needed on fourth.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I thought they should have gone for fourth through one there,
But I think he did the right thing. You want
to give your kicker some confidence.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Okay, well we needed to go make this one, and
he did, and that's I think that sends a different
message if they go forward and get it cool. But
you know what, I think Mike said, you know what,
our kicker struggling on.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Myers would probably wonder why they went for it there.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, and now the kicker's really in his own head.
Can damn they don't even believe me no more. So
I think for him to say, y go we'll take
the points, well, attempt the points and he makes it,
that just gives him confidence. And I think we'll see
that throughout the season where he is money.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
That's a good point. You don't want to alienate your kicker.
He doesn't know Jason Myers doesn't know Mike McDonald and
if you started asking questions about his head coach and
what he believes in him on August seventeenth, that's a
bad thing. Derek Hall. We talked about him the first
days of camp, how impressive he has been. Well, he
looked like a starter against Scrubs Saturday night. And I
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don't know if you saw on the television replays the
play he made in the hole on a pulling tight
end on a running play. That is hard to do
what he did. He'd absolutely destroyed a tight end with
a running start pulling from the opposite side of the line.
That guy had like an eight yard head start on him.
And when you're todd as an outside linebacker holding the
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edge on that play with a kickout block is you
have to keep your body square to the other goal line,
and you have to stay low, and you lead with
that lead shoulder and take on the block with half
your body because if you take if you turn into
him and take it on your whole body and get
run over like a mack truck like Stone Foresight did
on the first drive at left tackle. That was a
bad rep. He just got mack trucked. But Derek Hall
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was strong enough to take on that pulling tight end
with his inside lead shoulder and destroy him, blow him
off his feet in the hole, ruin the play. That
is the outside linebacker play Mike McDonald's looking for. And
when you're asking him, boy a mafe. They wanted to
see that from Mafaey weeks ago, and that is what
they've been on him about. They got to find an
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outside linebacker opposite and Wosu who can be a run stopper,
run setter, edgestter outside linebacker. That's the key to that
position in this Mike McDonald defense, not how many sacks
he gets. Yeah, that's the second piece of what an
outside linebacker needs to do for McDonald. McDonald's trying to
find a guy who sets an edge like Derek Hall
did on that play. And I bet they ran that
play back in the team meeting about six times. How
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this is how you take on a poling block. Derek
Hall helped himself a lot the right guard competition. Here's
how that went. They started them both on Saturday night.
I thought it was a good idea. They started Christian
Hayes at left guard, the rookie third round pick, and
Anthony Bradford at right guard and basically they dueled on Saturday.
Each started and played sixty seven percent of the offensive snaps.
I thought they both started poorly. I thought they had
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a couple of plays they wanted back. It was a
false start penalty on Haynes, just one of them. But
then their pass protection on the interior is why Sam
Howe had that sharp two minute drill, six plays and
thirty eight seconds to a field goal at the end
of the half. When how looked the best he's looked
all camp, it was the interior play of Hayes, Bradford
and Oliela at Timmy their pass protection on those plays
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that allowed that two minutes to go. We're going to
talk more today and asked they've seen film on what
McDonald and Scott Huff and the offensive staff thought of
the right guards. But that's a competition wide open now.
Because Haynes was the starter in the joint practices for
the first time Wednesday and Thursday, actually the second day
he started over Bradford, So they're not set on the
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right side at all. You mentioned Abe Lucas Chris. They
don't know when he's going to play in practice for
the first time off that offseason knee surgery. I think
Leviscus Nult's on the team. I mean kickoff return. He
made a kickoff back the block. I ran it as
my lead art in my game story. That looked like
a w W E act. Guy's legs were splayed at sideways.
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He was a helicopter in the open field. Yeah he's
on the team. Yeah, he's on the team. Which makes
a question about Estop Winston. If they think Winston can
get through waivers, they might cut him again, put him
on the practice squad, and then put him in games
and call him up for the practice squad. Cody White,
to me, is really every day Cody White does something
to say he should be on the team. He had
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a thirty three yard catch away from his body on
Saturday night, and that started sparked a two minute drill.
If he catches that ball in the body, it's probably
deflected by the defensive back. He reached out forward inside
on the seam route to keep it away from the defender.
I thought that was a really deaf play by Cody White.
He helped himself too, And I don't know how many
they're going to keep. I don't see d Eskers on
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this team. He didn't. He wasn't on the field at
all last week. He's yet again injured. There's no place
for him when you got guys like Chenault in Winston
and Cody White doing what they do. Up next, we're
going to talk about the Steelers quarterback situation. Why are
we talking about that? Because some guy named Russell Wilson
isn't as sure a thing as he might have thought.
He was a lot of talking Pittsburgh about Justin Fields.
Over Russell Wilson. We will talk next with Joe Rudder.
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He's a beat writer for the Pittsburgh Tribune Review. He'll
join us next on ninety three point three kJ RFM.