August 21, 2024 • 31 mins
The Mariners might be done, at least Gregg Bell says it's a wrap as the M's have now lost 7 of their last 8 games. Let's pivot to the Seahawks as they prepare for their final preseason game against the Cleveland Browns on Saturday night. What's up with the starting offensive line, will Anthony Bradford hold of Christian Haynes, we also talk about the defensive side of the ball as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
College football gets rolling next week. So it's it's coming
to an end.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's coming to end this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Oh actually, excuse me, yes, my bad, Yeah, this weekend Georgia.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, so week zero that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, it's summer. It's been real, baby, it's been real.
Blow you kisses. I'm gonna miss you. I know a
lot of people feel the same way. And we're gonna
get ready for another fall here in the two six.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Baseball season was great.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
While okay, Greg, we didn't even need to say anything. Man,
I thought we were gonna go the first twenty minutes
without talking Mariners.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
In headlines brought to you by Venue Kings dot Com,
The first headline in the city right now are the Mariners.
They are all signs. They're done, all signs.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh whoa Greg? Greg?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Greg?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Great?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Last night? I had the first chance to sit down
and watch a game in weeks because of a training
camp and traveled in Nashville. So last night I said,
I'm gonna park here and watch this game. And except
for when my wife to make sure she saw Michelle
Obama and Barack Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention,
we watched the middle innings. The score didn't change while
they both spoke, so I really didn't miss the crucks
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of the game. But I saw the very first three inning,
four innings, and the final three and it's the first
time I'd seen it in a long time, and it
struck me that this might be last night against the Dodgers,
might be the best this team can play. They had
early hitting a Polanco with the three RBIs, They had
a three to nothing lead on one of the world's
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best teams, and they still lost three two bottom of
the seven. Scott Service brings in his Closer to Face
show heyo tany Mookie Betts. I thought that was a
great idea. You were going to lose the game there
if you bring in anybody else Otanian Bets against anybody
else in your bullpen is a mismatch. So you bring
in your all star closer with a one era. He
gets Otani on a line drive, but Bets got him
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drives in the tying run with two out, and of
course the Mitch Hanneger throw kept the game tied, and
throw it from right field cutting down Bets on a
single to end the ending at home plate. But because
his bullpens and tatters and his eighth. Thenning man Jimmy
Garcia was unavailable after being ineffective three times on this
road trip. Service has to pitch Munnos in the eighth too,
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in a tie game, and he was gassed. You could
see it. Fastballs were flying all over the place. And
then pinch hitter Jason Hayward. He must be about fifty
years old he did this.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Hayward chose down the line towards the carder. It's down,
said home run Jason Hayward. Dodgers take to Night in
the eight.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That's Joe Davis Joe Davis on Spectrum Dodgers TV of
Hayward's pinch hit, three run home run. Mariners lose six
to three. They blow a chance to gain a game
on Houston, which finally lost last night. So the M's
are still five games the trash games for the AO
West lead with thirty five games left, They've lost seven
of eight on the road trip that ends tonight in
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La at Chevezervine. They're done, Chris, they are. I think
that was.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Breaking news because just yesterday you said, you know, Chris,
there's still a chance in a day later, Well, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Because I saw them play their best game and they
still lost. Honestly, they had starting pitching, they had a
three to nothing lead, and they had their closer against
their best guys, and they still lost. I mean, how
else is there to compute this? How are they going
to rally to get to eighty eight or ninety wins
that they're gonna need play six sixty seven ball the
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rest of the way. When you play your best game
and you still lose, I mean, considering the competition, the
fact they had the early lead, the fact they knock
Walker Buller out of the game early and was in
the Dodgers' bullpen, which is one of the weaker parts
of their team, which there aren't many, and you use
your ace closer in the seventh with the game on
the line and you still don't win. I mean, honestly,
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I can't see him playing much better against the opponent
that of that quality, especially on the road, and not
winning it. I don't see how the math's going to
add up in the last thirty five games here, I
just don't. I mean, it would take everybody in the
lineup doing something they haven't done all year, which is
hit and not strikeout, and it would take the bullpen
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somewhat other than Andre's Muno's to get the game to
the ninth ending with the lead, which there was no
one capable of doing that right now. So that that's
why I came to that conclusion last night. Chris. It's
just I don't see them playing any better against the
team of that quality, and yet they still lost for
the seven time in eight games. And I don't know
how else to put it other than there are no
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signs unless you talk the chunk me out of are
there any signs that this team's gonna win two of
every three games the rest of the season. They have
to go twenty they'd have to go twenty and fifteen.
They'd have to go like twenty plus wins of the
last thirty five games. Where's that coming from. They'd have
to go like twenty five and ten.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, and their schedule is not the easiest. You have
the Giants that are playing around the record wise is
the same as the Mariners in that regards close enough,
so that won't be an easy feat. And then you
take on the Rays, you know how that might go.
And then you get a break. You get the Angels
in athletics. So there's your two series where you could
hope for sweeps back to back. But even then as that,
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I feel as if that's asking for too much. For
the Mariners to sweep two bad teams back to back.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
To get to eighty eight wins, Chris, they'd have to
go twenty four and eleven. They're one game over five
hundred right now. They were thirteen games over five hundred.
Now they're one.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You know, THEO was saying, it's a long season.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It wasn't long enough.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's I was gonna say, maybe it was too long.
Maybe we can get two hundred games. Maybe they're Mariners
can make a run then, because right now the hour
glasses running out of sand at this point.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, Bucky used that same hermum I drive hinder today.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh, I didn't even hear that's about the White Sox.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
The White Sox are the White Sox thirty wins and
ninety seven losses, one of the worst teams.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, you gotta s.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But they're the only team that has played worse since
mid June than the Mariners. The team that is thirty
and one hundred is the only team worse than you
since June, since you had a ten game lead. They've
gone from ten games up to five games back in
the span of sixty four days.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So what you're saying, if the White Sox had the
Mariners pitching staff, they'd probably.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Be in the same boat. No, they'd be better because
they have better hitting.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, I was the joke did not land like I
thought it would.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That nobody has nobody has worse hitting than the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, so any team, including the.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
White Sox would be better than the Mariners would be
with the Mariners pitching. It's a fact. That's bad. The
White Sox thirty and ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
This is bad business. It is it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay, So we talked in the morning show, and everybody
on the station and everyone in town has talked about
Scott Servis. I think it's a package deal. You got it.
The system's broken. They don't hit. They got three runs
last night and then two hits the rest of the
game final six innings against the entire Dodgers' bullpen after
Buehler was gone. The system's broken. They can't trot out
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a new manager with the same system. It's the old
bag of rocks thing I've been talking about all week.
You're gonna give another manager of bag of rocks and
ask him turn into gold. The lineups a bag of rocks.
Who gave him the bag of rocks? The Poto and
Hollander gave him the bag of rocks. The system is broken.
Doesn't matter managerial change or not. The system and the
players are still gonna be there. Bogan Gilbert starts tonight
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for the Dodgers against Jack Flaherty's seven to ten on
Root Sports. If you want to torture yourself again, the Kraken.
They resigned their first ever draft toroids. Matty Beinere's gonna
be a restricted free agent, probably wasn't gonna go anywhere anyway,
but they gave him big bucks, seven year contract seven
point one four million per year for the center and
Matty Beneers and the Krake and on the resign. The
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Seahawks had Anthony Bradford and rookie Christian Haynes alternating as
the starting right guard. Yesterday they had George Fant splitting
first team reps with Stone Foresight at right tackle. That
was new Forsites had a good camp for the second
straight day. Connor Williams was starting center to begin scrimmaging.
Then oh with Timmy was the center. Of the rest
of practice as they're pacing Williams back off that acl
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and only his third practice with the team. So I
just named sixty percent of the offensive line that is
unsettled two and a half weeks before the opener. We'll
talk offensive line at eleven am with the best player
the team has ever had and whoever will have on
a line, and that's Hall of Famer Walter Jones. He's
going to join the show at eleven o'clock. Zach sharbon
I returned to practice yesterday after missing a week with
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a stiff back. Tyler Lockett did not practice. I just
saw him pop into the media room and chied us
about how there's no snacks in here. He seemed in
good spirits. They're pacing Lockett. I don't see that as
a concern for the opener, but he has had a
leg issue. Didn't practice at all Tennessee. Didn't play any
preseason game so far. He may not on Saturday against
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Cleveland either. Draymond Jones didn't practice again. He's re injured.
He came back for a day or two and then
re injured himself in Tennessee. Jerome Baker came back for
a day very limited day on Monday. Wasn't on the
field yesterday, and Abe Lucas still appears to be a
ways from getting on the field for the first time
in this calendar year. Right tackle. We've talked about him. Chris,
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you probably saw Pete Carroll was on her station yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, great interview.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It was Dave Softy Maller and guest Doug Baldwin. I
happened to listen to it, and I found it interesting
that Carol said he's going back to USC to teach,
not the coach beginning in the spring. He didn't specify
what he's going to teach. He also said that quote
I could coach tomorrow, but that he has no desire to.
He just got back from Kuwait, he said, and a
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tour of US military installations there with seven basketball coach.
Carol was talking about how he coached a team of
Air Force service members in a basketball tournament. Did you
hear that, Chris? I did.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I was cracking up.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What did he tell him? What do he tell his players?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
He basically kept it football related and how he coaches football,
and hey, if there's a three, Ye're gonna Basically he said,
shoot the three. If it's available to take it. I'm
not his same philosophy for football and how he taught
his guys. He just carried it on with basketball and
it worked out for him. And it was fun hearing
him tell the story about not passing up threes and
taking the opportunities and competing, because that's all that's that's
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coach Pete Carroll's all about. So it was really fun
hearing him describe how he was coaching basketball using football,
so that that was really cool and creative.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
He told him he's never passed up a three point
shot and they shouldn't either. Take That's what it was, Yes,
to take every shot, every three, you can't. Sounds like
he watched a lot of Steph Curry as well. He
also said this, which I thought was interesting as the
lead of my story at the Newstribute dot Com about
his interactions with the successor new Seahawks coach Mike McDonald.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
No, I really haven't. I haven't talked to those guys
at all. I ran into Mike in the parking lot
one day and it was a great chance to just
give us alone to say hey and kind of get
greeted and on we go. I've not had much to
do with him in any way. And I just watched
in the games a little bit. When I see my TV,
I'm not paying that much attention to it. It just
feels like it's the right thing to do to let
them go. I don't really have any opinion other than
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I know they're really hard working and it's a really
smart group of guys. Yeah, and I know that they
have a good group around him to build on, and
it sounds like they've done some really good things that
checking on or heard the Leo's comments about the guys
up front and no tackling all that they could could
be really good up there. That's a really good place
to start. It's a really good place to start. Good
seeing Channa back, you know, and with the fellows and all.
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He's a real important factor in that football team. And
with purpose, I'm staying away from it. I'm not visiting
with him at all.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Chenna is of course Chenna and Wilson, who the team's
leading sac man from two years, goes back off the
torn pack. LEO is Leonard Williams, who had mentioned in
the spring with Carol was alluding to is that he's
learning six different positions from those tackle all the way
outside to end on Mike McDonald's new defensive line. Chris,
that didn't surprise me at all that he said he
hasn't talked to McDonald other than pumping in on the
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parking lot in January. The team said he was an
advisor when they made the change. They said he was
moving him into a new role that was a pr
spin admit. So they didn't use the word fire to
relieve the duties or go a different way, but that's
what they did. They fired him, and they as they
wanted to honor the contract. He had a year remaining
in his contract that most we all believed to be
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close to fifteen million dollars, So they said advisor. But
he at the time and those around him knew that
They knew better than that he was going to make
a clean break and be out of here and have
no say with Mike McDonald and let the new coach
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, and you could. You could tell how passionate he
is about coaching, as you mentioned earlier when he talked
about he can still do it. He still would love
to go and coach, but it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, no, he didn't say that. I don't want to missurepresenter.
He said that I have no interest in core. No,
but I'm saying could do it. He could do it
tomorrow yet but he but he did stress he did
no interest in doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So with that being said, staying away from the Seahawks,
I think is a really good thing. He realizes it
and he's moved on and he's okay with it. He
realizes it's cool. And I think that was one thing
that stood out to me is he understands it's okay
to move on and he has and those guys will
always be his boys, but he's not going to hang
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around and be that type of person. And I thought
that was really I guess big of Pete to do that,
because he technically, if he wanted to, he could probably
just be around. What are they going to say, no,
you can't be around Pete? Maybe they would, but he
decided not to make that choice or decision, and he
is enjoying life. As he mentioned, he was in Kuwait
coaching basketball, and he's got grandchildren.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, and he's got a house in Hawaii. He a't
gonna go to all the time. And now he's going
to teach in La usc.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Can't wait to see what he teaches.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He's got stuff going on. I mean, he could teach
sociology for as much as he's been down in the
Better LA and in the streets, and the social rights
social justice movement a few years ago, the racial quality
movement that he led his players through. I mean, that's
a coach who once canceled a training camp practice to
get remember that, to get players voted registered to vote.
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He has more than just football going on. I been
Chuck and Bucker asking me this morning when I every
day on my seven o'clock show with them or talk
with them, and they asked me if I was surprised
that he didn't want to coach a guy. I said, no,
he's got more going on than football. And he always
struck me as someone who didn't just need football, and
he would as well to not having it because he
was so plugged into the rest of the world and
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family and relationships. And he went on and on with
his relationship with Doug Baldon. I'm pretty sure that's how
Softy got him on the show yesterday, was he said, well,
I've got Doug Baldwin with me, and he goes, okay,
I'll come on. He was calling from Los Angeles yesterday,
so four nine, four or five one on to tell him, well,
do tax line. If you heard it, or if you
didn't hear it, if you just heard it, or read
my story at the News Tribune dot com, go read
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it and your reaction to hearing from Pete Carroll for
the first time since January. I think it'd be really
unfair to Mike McDonald for Caroll'll be hanging around anyway.
But what his comments about whether he wanted to coach again,
said he could, but doesn't want to, has no desire to.
If something come up down the line, maybe, but no
team is going to give him cart bloch and head
football authority at age seventy two that the Seahawks did
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fourteen years ago the storm they won at Washington last
night eighty three seventy seven. They also brought back veteran
Ford Gabby Williams, who played for them last year and
in twenty twenty two. She skipped the first half of
the WNBA season to lead France and scoring in the
Olympics into the silver medal in the Paris Games. That
just ended offensive line is a huge deal. It's the
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same issue that the Seahawks have had since May, since January,
and here we are two and a half weeks before
the opener. We're going to talk about the offensive line
in detail, what's going on with it, who might be
emerging as new starters. That's next on ninety three point
three KJRFM. Hi, welcome back, Drake Bella, the News Tribune
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and Christoph Kidd with you. I'm at the Virginia Mason
Athletic Center for the Seahawks practice this afternoon. He infinesss
with me. He will join at eleven forty five before
his show here from Seahawks Headquarters from twelve to three.
We have Walter Jones coming on at eleven o'clock. The
best offensive lineman the Seahawks have ever had, the Hall
of Famer ever, the best they'll ever have. He'll have
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an opinion or two about the offensive line that tell
us it's still moving and shaking. There's still changes being made.
Two and a half weeks before the first game September
eighth against Denver, We've talked about, I've written in the
News Tribune about I thought Christian Haynes would make a
move to be the starting right guard. By now, well
in the last week he has. He became the starting
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right guard for the first time over Anthony Bradford on
Thursday for the second of the two joint practices against
the Titans in Nashville. That was a day after the
Titans Pro Bowl defensive tackle of Jeffrey Simmons just owned
the interior of Seattle's OH line, and then the coaches
came to the decision, we're gonna give Haines his chance
to go against the Ones. Chris. I don't know if
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you had the audio from my talk with Haines yesterday
to put on the air, but he talked about that, Okay,
okay that What Haines told me was that they came
to the coaches came to him at about an hour
before well maybe a half hour before practice started on
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Thursday in Nashville, and told him, you're gonna be with
the ones today and right on the field. Just Scott
huff said, that's your assignment. Go get Jeffrey Simmons. Good
luck with that, and he acquitted himself very well that day.
I mentioned and wrote in the News Tribune about two
pens that Haines had in his very first one on
one pass bus drill that day, including of a three
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hundred and sixty pound defensive nose tackle actually and he
weighs three seventeen does Haynes the third round pick from
Connecticut and then at eleven to eleven. He played very
well in that day's scrimmage as well. Bradford was the
number two right guard for the first time that day
and the coaches thought Seahawks coaches thought that Bradford had
his best practice at camp that Thursday as the number
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two right guard. That he responded, and both those guys
talk to me about that day, in particular the story
I have up at the News Tribune dot com, and
Bradford said he had to atone for what happened to
him in the offensive line on the first practice with Simmons.
Bradford told me that the competition's there all day, the
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whole practice, chirping from both sides, talking about the practices
in Tennessee what you want for real. He thought that
he played well, much better on Thursday Bradford as the
number two right guard than he did on Wednesday as
the number one. I asked him what he learned from
going against Simmons, a two time Pro Bowl for her
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first round pick twenty nineteen, first round pick for Tennessee.
His quote was really quote really, you know, you got
to get your helmet strapped on type. Just what I
took from it was me myself. I need to be
way more level, meaning with his pad level and leverage.
I need to have a posture. I need to have
a plan before the balls even snapped. You can't go
against him not having a planner. It's not going to work.
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That's technique and having a plan before the snap. He
also said, kind of as a decide, I definitely could
have watched some more tape of him before the practices
to get ready for his pass rush moves. Haynes said
that he was jawing back and forth with the Titans
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Pro Bowl defensive tackle. Quote. It was good going against
an all pro type of guy and then just throwing
different things at him, you know, giving me my business.
He's a guy who likes to talk a lot, so
even when I was talking back at him, just having
the confidence going in here and blocking him. So I
asked him what he felt he showed the coaches is Haines.
I asked Haynes what he thought he showed the coaches
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in that second practice going against Simmons, and Haines said,
quote that I can do whatever they need me to do.
I can go out there and do it, play my
best football possible. Somebody that's going to go out there
and be for the team, go out there and give it.
They're all what's interesting about since that practice, Chris on Thursday.
On Saturday, the coaches decided to start both Haynes and Bradford,
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Haines at left guard, Bradford at right guard, and Mike
McDonald said that he really liked what that looked like.
Of course, they have laken Tomlinson, a thirty two year
old on a one year contract, at left guard, and
they were resting Tomlinson on the Saturday preseason game, and
then in the two practices since they've gotten back home
this week, they have alternated and Haines has been the
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first in to start the scrimmage these last two days
and Bradford has been the second. So there's no doubt
that Haines now has more traction to the starter than
he did even a week ago. Thanks for those practices
that Thursday practice in Tennessee. And if they didn't like
how Haines responded to being thrown in there with the
ones against Simmons on Thursday, he wouldn't be alternating reps
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at one right now. So definitely Haines has made a
move at right guard, but it's almost a dead heat
compared to what it was a week ago. Right tackle.
That's not settled either. We talked about Abe Lucas. This
is what if you missed it. This is what Mike
McDonald had to say when he was asking about Abe
Lucas on Monday.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Right now, I probably don't want to answer that question.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That was sustinct anything else, and that wasn't all good either.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
No, we talked about it Monday. That raises more questions.
In my opinion, It makes me wonder, Okay, you don't
have an update. The season's about three weeks away, so
that sounds as if Abe is not close or you're
keeping it close to the vest. But then again, Abe
needs to practice in this new scheme. He can only
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study the iPad for so long. He has to go
out there and execute and try these things. So that
is kind of where I'm starting to believe that Abe
will not be playing Week one.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Signs are now that he's not there at least actouly say,
there are no signs that he's going to be practicing
anytime soon, so it's unrealistic he'd play in Week one.
Up until this point, they had used George Fant primarily
as the right tackle without Lucas on the field. They
had used McLendon Curtis at times early in training camp.
Now this week Stone Forsyth, you remember him, six round
pick from the draft, had just had three picks a
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couple in twenty twenty. Well, he's been mostly a backup
left tackle to Charles Cross, but now he's been playing
right tackling. Yesterday Forsyth got some reps with the ones
alternating with Fans, So they've now used three different guys
on the first team at right tackle without Lucas on
the field most of the time. McLendon Curtis early in camp. Curtis,
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of course, had been the right guard when Bradford had
an injured ankle in the spring. And now Stone Foresight,
who has been a swing backup tackle for right and left.
He was on the starting offense at right tackle at
time yesterday. There's a third position that's not settled yet.
Connor Williams, the center, signed fourteen days ago to a
one year contract three million guaranteed. That money, he's going
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to play. The question is when he's eight months removed
from the torn ac on knee reconstructive surgery there this
week has had his first two practices as a Seahawk,
and they threw him right into the first team center role,
but only for a portion of the scrimmaging the first
portion both on Monday Monday and again yesterday Ola Timmy
went in midway through the practice. So they are definitely
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ramping up and pacing Williams to get to the point
where he could play in the opener in two and
a half weeks September eighth. I don't expect Williams to
play in the game on Saturday, of course, they would
love him to play against the Browns with Gino Smith
in the starting offense. Not sure eight months off an
ACL and only four practices in his return from it,
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that he'll go into game action, but the plan is.
Mike McDonald says that Williams will be able to play
in the opener with a pacing schedule in practice between
now and then. Chris, I just mentioned sixty percent of
the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Hey man, Yeah, there's there yeah, it needs to be
figured out. You'd want to have a complete answer. But
they got one more preseason game. Can we get more answers?
Could Connor? I would assume Connor will make He'll play
a little bit, I would hope.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Just because see because it's so quick back from you
don't think so well, just because he hasn't even completed
a full practice yet.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Well that's you have today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Right I will be watching to see if he does
complete a full practice.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
That'll be a good telling. Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Signs are that Gino Smith may get some snaps for
the home fans. Maybe you may be season ticket holders.
You may be listening deciding whether to go to the
game or not. Maybe you go to see Gino Smith
for when do you guys talk to coach McDonald again tomorrow?
Th Tomorrow, you guys will know if Gno plays. Okay,
probably McDonald has sown far shown to be if you
ask him a question, you'll answer it. If we say
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will Smith play, he'll answer it. But signs are that
they want Smith to get some reps in perhaps a
series or two in Grubs offense. And if they if
Smith plays, you know the starting offensive life.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
So that would be a good till right.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So if they do, then it'll be interesting to see
who starts at right guard, who starts at right tackle,
probably George Fant on Saturday against the Browns. But the
days are gone when the last preseason game used to
be automatically guaranteed no starters would play, because that was
when you had a fourth preseason game and the cuts
were sometimes twenty four hours or two days later. Now
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the final preseason game the cuts are going to be
the twenty seventh next Tuesday, and they have that whole
week without a game of practices and then another week
of the game playing week of practices before the opener.
So coaches now think that they could play your starters
still rest them for two full weeks until the actual
opener on September eighth, which lends itself to the more
the likelihood that Gino Smith may play on Saturday. But
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again to Chris's point, we'll talk tomorrow to Mike McDonald
and hopefully get a word on that. But that's where
it stands on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'm going to try to talk to Scott Huff today,
the offensive line coach called for more Washington Husky's line coach,
now the seahawks old line coach. I'm going to try
to talk to him today and try to get him
to sort out all of that and what he's seen
and where it may be headed. And we could air
that interview tomorrow here on the show. Chris, I don't
know four nine four five one. You can also chime
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in what your feelings are on your offensive line two
and a half weeks before the Seahawks opener. You worried
Scott Huff going to figure it out. Ryan Grub going
to figure it out. His offense is predicated on this
offensive line coming together before or it might even be
after September the eighth. We'll talk more next on what
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the Seahawks have and defense. We remember we have Walter
Jones at eleven o'clock to talk about offensive line. Going
to talk to him about how we used to push
trucks in training camp instead of showing up. Mike Combra
never minded that it was fine that he was back
Walter Jones back in Alabama pushing trucks. That's how good
Jones was. All that and more is coming up next
to ninety three point three k jrff Hi welcome back,
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Greg Bell, the News tribunic Christopher Kidd with you, and
I said, Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Seahawks practice the eighth,
thankenth today now of the training camp preseason meet this afternoon.
Press conferences and media availability and interviews one on one
starting at noon. That's when Ian Finnass will take over. Here.
He's sitting across the wall from me right now here
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at Seahawks headquarters. He'll take over twelve until three, four nine,
four five one A toll him. We'll do a text
ligne at eleven thirty. We'll read back your text. That'll
be after Walter Jones joins us at eleven o'clock, looking
forward to hearing from the Hall of Fame offensive tackle,
former Seahawks Ring of Honor, the best to ever do it.
He'll join us at eleven o'clock. We talked about the
offensive line last segment the defense. The main issue on
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defense right now is at linebacker. Jerome Baker remains sidelined.
He had come back for a day to do a
little bit of light formation recognition part of practice, and
not much more. He's had a hamstring issue going on
for two weeks now and it's been Tyree Knight, the
fourth round pick from the University of Texas al Passo,
playing most of the first two preseason games. He played
all the fourth quarters against the Chargers two weeks ago,
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and then Saturday night in Nashville he played about three
and a half quarters left midway through the fourth quarter.
I joked him after the game forgets a trophy for
all the snaps he's been getting, and they'd rather have
Jerome Baker by now next to Terrell Dotson in the
middle of their defense. We'll see when Baker gets back
onto the field to do that. It doesn't look like
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he'll play Saturday in the preseason finale. The starters did
play against the Chargers on defense, not against the Titans
less imperative than Gino Smith in the offense to play
on Saturday in the season preseason finale against Cleveland against
that seven o'clock kickoff. It's on King five television. Walter
Jones is going to be on King five television again
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this year as the postgame analyst with Paul Sylvie, and
he will join us at eleven o'clock. As I said,
four nine, four to five one and tell him we
do tech sign would you ask Walter Jones, the greatest
offensive lineman the Seahawks have ever had, tell us on
the text line, what you'd like to know from Walter Jones,
questions you have for him. We'll pick a couple off.
Maybe ask Walter Jones at eleven o'clock. He has been
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watching the two preseason games. He does have an opinion
on the situation at tackle and across the line of scrimmage.
And I'll ask him how hard it will be for
a center two and a half weeks before the season
begins to learn a new offense and his teammates and
to conduct and direct an offensive line. And that's what
they're asking Connor Williams to do eight months after a
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torn ACF four nine four five one, And to tell him,
we'll do text line. Let us know what you'd ask
Walter Jones. What are you going to ask Walter Jones, Chris,
I'll keep it a secret. I don't want to spoil
it yet, all right, trying to give a primer for
the people on the text line.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Nah, they don't need no help. They got it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
For one. I want to see.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I want to hear his thoughts about the new coaching staff,
for sure, get his opinion on that. Maybe hmm, I'm
thinking about something with Pete, but I don't know. I
might lay off of that just because I think that
was covered yesterday for the most part. But definitely want
to hear his thoughts on the coaching staff and how
he views the offensive line, and maybe any insight on
Abe Lucas. Maybe he knows a thing or two about
injuries and he played the position, so anything any hope
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for Abe and the replacements, what does he see from
those guys and watching the game. So yeah, those are
some of the things that I want to know. I'm
curious to hear what he has to say regarding the
old line, offensive line, and the new coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Four nine four five one. Tell him we'll do a
text line. We have a couple questions already coming in,
one from the two O six and Edmunds. Tell us,
what would you ask Walter Jones if you had the chance,
you had the chance now on the to them, would
do tech line? Four nine four to five one? Coming
up next, the best offensive lineman, maybe the best player
the Seahawks have ever had. Hall of Famer Walter Jones
joins us next on ninety three point three kJ RFM,
College football gets rolling next week. So it's it's coming
to an end.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's coming to end this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Oh actually, excuse me, yes, my bad, Yeah, this weekend Georgia.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, so week zero that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, it's summer. It's been real, baby, it's been real.
Blow you kisses. I'm gonna miss you. I know a
lot of people feel the same way. And we're gonna
get ready for another fall here in the two six.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Baseball season was great.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
While okay, Greg, we didn't even need to say anything. Man,
I thought we were gonna go the first twenty minutes
without talking Mariners.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
In headlines brought to you by Venue Kings dot Com,
The first headline in the city right now are the Mariners.
They are all signs. They're done, all signs.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh whoa Greg? Greg?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Greg?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Great?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Last night? I had the first chance to sit down
and watch a game in weeks because of a training
camp and traveled in Nashville. So last night I said,
I'm gonna park here and watch this game. And except
for when my wife to make sure she saw Michelle
Obama and Barack Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention,
we watched the middle innings. The score didn't change while
they both spoke, so I really didn't miss the crucks
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of the game. But I saw the very first three inning,
four innings, and the final three and it's the first
time I'd seen it in a long time, and it
struck me that this might be last night against the Dodgers,
might be the best this team can play. They had
early hitting a Polanco with the three RBIs, They had
a three to nothing lead on one of the world's
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best teams, and they still lost three two bottom of
the seven. Scott Service brings in his Closer to Face
show heyo tany Mookie Betts. I thought that was a
great idea. You were going to lose the game there
if you bring in anybody else Otanian Bets against anybody
else in your bullpen is a mismatch. So you bring
in your all star closer with a one era. He
gets Otani on a line drive, but Bets got him
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drives in the tying run with two out, and of
course the Mitch Hanneger throw kept the game tied, and
throw it from right field cutting down Bets on a
single to end the ending at home plate. But because
his bullpens and tatters and his eighth. Thenning man Jimmy
Garcia was unavailable after being ineffective three times on this
road trip. Service has to pitch Munnos in the eighth too,
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in a tie game, and he was gassed. You could
see it. Fastballs were flying all over the place. And
then pinch hitter Jason Hayward. He must be about fifty
years old he did this.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Hayward chose down the line towards the carder. It's down,
said home run Jason Hayward. Dodgers take to Night in
the eight.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That's Joe Davis Joe Davis on Spectrum Dodgers TV of
Hayward's pinch hit, three run home run. Mariners lose six
to three. They blow a chance to gain a game
on Houston, which finally lost last night. So the M's
are still five games the trash games for the AO
West lead with thirty five games left, They've lost seven
of eight on the road trip that ends tonight in
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La at Chevezervine. They're done, Chris, they are. I think
that was.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Breaking news because just yesterday you said, you know, Chris,
there's still a chance in a day later, Well, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Because I saw them play their best game and they
still lost. Honestly, they had starting pitching, they had a
three to nothing lead, and they had their closer against
their best guys, and they still lost. I mean, how
else is there to compute this? How are they going
to rally to get to eighty eight or ninety wins
that they're gonna need play six sixty seven ball the
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rest of the way. When you play your best game
and you still lose, I mean, considering the competition, the
fact they had the early lead, the fact they knock
Walker Buller out of the game early and was in
the Dodgers' bullpen, which is one of the weaker parts
of their team, which there aren't many, and you use
your ace closer in the seventh with the game on
the line and you still don't win. I mean, honestly,
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I can't see him playing much better against the opponent
that of that quality, especially on the road, and not
winning it. I don't see how the math's going to
add up in the last thirty five games here, I
just don't. I mean, it would take everybody in the
lineup doing something they haven't done all year, which is
hit and not strikeout, and it would take the bullpen
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somewhat other than Andre's Muno's to get the game to
the ninth ending with the lead, which there was no
one capable of doing that right now. So that that's
why I came to that conclusion last night. Chris. It's
just I don't see them playing any better against the
team of that quality, and yet they still lost for
the seven time in eight games. And I don't know
how else to put it other than there are no
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signs unless you talk the chunk me out of are
there any signs that this team's gonna win two of
every three games the rest of the season. They have
to go twenty they'd have to go twenty and fifteen.
They'd have to go like twenty plus wins of the
last thirty five games. Where's that coming from. They'd have
to go like twenty five and ten.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, and their schedule is not the easiest. You have
the Giants that are playing around the record wise is
the same as the Mariners in that regards close enough,
so that won't be an easy feat. And then you
take on the Rays, you know how that might go.
And then you get a break. You get the Angels
in athletics. So there's your two series where you could
hope for sweeps back to back. But even then as that,
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I feel as if that's asking for too much. For
the Mariners to sweep two bad teams back to back.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
To get to eighty eight wins, Chris, they'd have to
go twenty four and eleven. They're one game over five
hundred right now. They were thirteen games over five hundred.
Now they're one.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You know, THEO was saying, it's a long season.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It wasn't long enough.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's I was gonna say, maybe it was too long.
Maybe we can get two hundred games. Maybe they're Mariners
can make a run then, because right now the hour
glasses running out of sand at this point.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, Bucky used that same hermum I drive hinder today.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh, I didn't even hear that's about the White Sox.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
The White Sox are the White Sox thirty wins and
ninety seven losses, one of the worst teams.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, you gotta s.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But they're the only team that has played worse since
mid June than the Mariners. The team that is thirty
and one hundred is the only team worse than you
since June, since you had a ten game lead. They've
gone from ten games up to five games back in
the span of sixty four days.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So what you're saying, if the White Sox had the
Mariners pitching staff, they'd probably.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Be in the same boat. No, they'd be better because
they have better hitting.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, I was the joke did not land like I
thought it would.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That nobody has nobody has worse hitting than the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, so any team, including the.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
White Sox would be better than the Mariners would be
with the Mariners pitching. It's a fact. That's bad. The
White Sox thirty and ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
This is bad business. It is it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay, So we talked in the morning show, and everybody
on the station and everyone in town has talked about
Scott Servis. I think it's a package deal. You got it.
The system's broken. They don't hit. They got three runs
last night and then two hits the rest of the
game final six innings against the entire Dodgers' bullpen after
Buehler was gone. The system's broken. They can't trot out
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a new manager with the same system. It's the old
bag of rocks thing I've been talking about all week.
You're gonna give another manager of bag of rocks and
ask him turn into gold. The lineups a bag of rocks.
Who gave him the bag of rocks? The Poto and
Hollander gave him the bag of rocks. The system is broken.
Doesn't matter managerial change or not. The system and the
players are still gonna be there. Bogan Gilbert starts tonight
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for the Dodgers against Jack Flaherty's seven to ten on
Root Sports. If you want to torture yourself again, the Kraken.
They resigned their first ever draft toroids. Matty Beinere's gonna
be a restricted free agent, probably wasn't gonna go anywhere anyway,
but they gave him big bucks, seven year contract seven
point one four million per year for the center and
Matty Beneers and the Krake and on the resign. The
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Seahawks had Anthony Bradford and rookie Christian Haynes alternating as
the starting right guard. Yesterday they had George Fant splitting
first team reps with Stone Foresight at right tackle. That
was new Forsites had a good camp for the second
straight day. Connor Williams was starting center to begin scrimmaging.
Then oh with Timmy was the center. Of the rest
of practice as they're pacing Williams back off that acl
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and only his third practice with the team. So I
just named sixty percent of the offensive line that is
unsettled two and a half weeks before the opener. We'll
talk offensive line at eleven am with the best player
the team has ever had and whoever will have on
a line, and that's Hall of Famer Walter Jones. He's
going to join the show at eleven o'clock. Zach sharbon
I returned to practice yesterday after missing a week with
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a stiff back. Tyler Lockett did not practice. I just
saw him pop into the media room and chied us
about how there's no snacks in here. He seemed in
good spirits. They're pacing Lockett. I don't see that as
a concern for the opener, but he has had a
leg issue. Didn't practice at all Tennessee. Didn't play any
preseason game so far. He may not on Saturday against
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Cleveland either. Draymond Jones didn't practice again. He's re injured.
He came back for a day or two and then
re injured himself in Tennessee. Jerome Baker came back for
a day very limited day on Monday. Wasn't on the
field yesterday, and Abe Lucas still appears to be a
ways from getting on the field for the first time
in this calendar year. Right tackle. We've talked about him. Chris,
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you probably saw Pete Carroll was on her station yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, great interview.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It was Dave Softy Maller and guest Doug Baldwin. I
happened to listen to it, and I found it interesting
that Carol said he's going back to USC to teach,
not the coach beginning in the spring. He didn't specify
what he's going to teach. He also said that quote
I could coach tomorrow, but that he has no desire to.
He just got back from Kuwait, he said, and a
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tour of US military installations there with seven basketball coach.
Carol was talking about how he coached a team of
Air Force service members in a basketball tournament. Did you
hear that, Chris? I did.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I was cracking up.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What did he tell him? What do he tell his players?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
He basically kept it football related and how he coaches football,
and hey, if there's a three, Ye're gonna Basically he said,
shoot the three. If it's available to take it. I'm
not his same philosophy for football and how he taught
his guys. He just carried it on with basketball and
it worked out for him. And it was fun hearing
him tell the story about not passing up threes and
taking the opportunities and competing, because that's all that's that's
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coach Pete Carroll's all about. So it was really fun
hearing him describe how he was coaching basketball using football,
so that that was really cool and creative.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
He told him he's never passed up a three point
shot and they shouldn't either. Take That's what it was, Yes,
to take every shot, every three, you can't. Sounds like
he watched a lot of Steph Curry as well. He
also said this, which I thought was interesting as the
lead of my story at the Newstribute dot Com about
his interactions with the successor new Seahawks coach Mike McDonald.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
No, I really haven't. I haven't talked to those guys
at all. I ran into Mike in the parking lot
one day and it was a great chance to just
give us alone to say hey and kind of get
greeted and on we go. I've not had much to
do with him in any way. And I just watched
in the games a little bit. When I see my TV,
I'm not paying that much attention to it. It just
feels like it's the right thing to do to let
them go. I don't really have any opinion other than
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I know they're really hard working and it's a really
smart group of guys. Yeah, and I know that they
have a good group around him to build on, and
it sounds like they've done some really good things that
checking on or heard the Leo's comments about the guys
up front and no tackling all that they could could
be really good up there. That's a really good place
to start. It's a really good place to start. Good
seeing Channa back, you know, and with the fellows and all.
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He's a real important factor in that football team. And
with purpose, I'm staying away from it. I'm not visiting
with him at all.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Chenna is of course Chenna and Wilson, who the team's
leading sac man from two years, goes back off the
torn pack. LEO is Leonard Williams, who had mentioned in
the spring with Carol was alluding to is that he's
learning six different positions from those tackle all the way
outside to end on Mike McDonald's new defensive line. Chris,
that didn't surprise me at all that he said he
hasn't talked to McDonald other than pumping in on the
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parking lot in January. The team said he was an
advisor when they made the change. They said he was
moving him into a new role that was a pr
spin admit. So they didn't use the word fire to
relieve the duties or go a different way, but that's
what they did. They fired him, and they as they
wanted to honor the contract. He had a year remaining
in his contract that most we all believed to be
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close to fifteen million dollars, So they said advisor. But
he at the time and those around him knew that
They knew better than that he was going to make
a clean break and be out of here and have
no say with Mike McDonald and let the new coach
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, and you could. You could tell how passionate he
is about coaching, as you mentioned earlier when he talked
about he can still do it. He still would love
to go and coach, but it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, no, he didn't say that. I don't want to missurepresenter.
He said that I have no interest in core. No,
but I'm saying could do it. He could do it
tomorrow yet but he but he did stress he did
no interest in doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So with that being said, staying away from the Seahawks,
I think is a really good thing. He realizes it
and he's moved on and he's okay with it. He
realizes it's cool. And I think that was one thing
that stood out to me is he understands it's okay
to move on and he has and those guys will
always be his boys, but he's not going to hang
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around and be that type of person. And I thought
that was really I guess big of Pete to do that,
because he technically, if he wanted to, he could probably
just be around. What are they going to say, no,
you can't be around Pete? Maybe they would, but he
decided not to make that choice or decision, and he
is enjoying life. As he mentioned, he was in Kuwait
coaching basketball, and he's got grandchildren.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, and he's got a house in Hawaii. He a't
gonna go to all the time. And now he's going
to teach in La usc.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Can't wait to see what he teaches.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He's got stuff going on. I mean, he could teach
sociology for as much as he's been down in the
Better LA and in the streets, and the social rights
social justice movement a few years ago, the racial quality
movement that he led his players through. I mean, that's
a coach who once canceled a training camp practice to
get remember that, to get players voted registered to vote.
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He has more than just football going on. I been
Chuck and Bucker asking me this morning when I every
day on my seven o'clock show with them or talk
with them, and they asked me if I was surprised
that he didn't want to coach a guy. I said, no,
he's got more going on than football. And he always
struck me as someone who didn't just need football, and
he would as well to not having it because he
was so plugged into the rest of the world and
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family and relationships. And he went on and on with
his relationship with Doug Baldon. I'm pretty sure that's how
Softy got him on the show yesterday, was he said, well,
I've got Doug Baldwin with me, and he goes, okay,
I'll come on. He was calling from Los Angeles yesterday,
so four nine, four or five one on to tell him, well,
do tax line. If you heard it, or if you
didn't hear it, if you just heard it, or read
my story at the News Tribune dot com, go read
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it and your reaction to hearing from Pete Carroll for
the first time since January. I think it'd be really
unfair to Mike McDonald for Caroll'll be hanging around anyway.
But what his comments about whether he wanted to coach again,
said he could, but doesn't want to, has no desire to.
If something come up down the line, maybe, but no
team is going to give him cart bloch and head
football authority at age seventy two that the Seahawks did
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fourteen years ago the storm they won at Washington last
night eighty three seventy seven. They also brought back veteran
Ford Gabby Williams, who played for them last year and
in twenty twenty two. She skipped the first half of
the WNBA season to lead France and scoring in the
Olympics into the silver medal in the Paris Games. That
just ended offensive line is a huge deal. It's the
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same issue that the Seahawks have had since May, since January,
and here we are two and a half weeks before
the opener. We're going to talk about the offensive line
in detail, what's going on with it, who might be
emerging as new starters. That's next on ninety three point
three KJRFM. Hi, welcome back, Drake Bella, the News Tribune
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and Christoph Kidd with you. I'm at the Virginia Mason
Athletic Center for the Seahawks practice this afternoon. He infinesss
with me. He will join at eleven forty five before
his show here from Seahawks Headquarters from twelve to three.
We have Walter Jones coming on at eleven o'clock. The
best offensive lineman the Seahawks have ever had, the Hall
of Famer ever, the best they'll ever have. He'll have
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an opinion or two about the offensive line that tell
us it's still moving and shaking. There's still changes being made.
Two and a half weeks before the first game September
eighth against Denver, We've talked about, I've written in the
News Tribune about I thought Christian Haynes would make a
move to be the starting right guard. By now, well
in the last week he has. He became the starting
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right guard for the first time over Anthony Bradford on
Thursday for the second of the two joint practices against
the Titans in Nashville. That was a day after the
Titans Pro Bowl defensive tackle of Jeffrey Simmons just owned
the interior of Seattle's OH line, and then the coaches
came to the decision, we're gonna give Haines his chance
to go against the Ones. Chris. I don't know if
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you had the audio from my talk with Haines yesterday
to put on the air, but he talked about that, Okay,
okay that What Haines told me was that they came
to the coaches came to him at about an hour
before well maybe a half hour before practice started on
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Thursday in Nashville, and told him, you're gonna be with
the ones today and right on the field. Just Scott
huff said, that's your assignment. Go get Jeffrey Simmons. Good
luck with that, and he acquitted himself very well that day.
I mentioned and wrote in the News Tribune about two
pens that Haines had in his very first one on
one pass bus drill that day, including of a three
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hundred and sixty pound defensive nose tackle actually and he
weighs three seventeen does Haynes the third round pick from
Connecticut and then at eleven to eleven. He played very
well in that day's scrimmage as well. Bradford was the
number two right guard for the first time that day
and the coaches thought Seahawks coaches thought that Bradford had
his best practice at camp that Thursday as the number
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two right guard. That he responded, and both those guys
talk to me about that day, in particular the story
I have up at the News Tribune dot com, and
Bradford said he had to atone for what happened to
him in the offensive line on the first practice with Simmons.
Bradford told me that the competition's there all day, the
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whole practice, chirping from both sides, talking about the practices
in Tennessee what you want for real. He thought that
he played well, much better on Thursday Bradford as the
number two right guard than he did on Wednesday as
the number one. I asked him what he learned from
going against Simmons, a two time Pro Bowl for her
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first round pick twenty nineteen, first round pick for Tennessee.
His quote was really quote really, you know, you got
to get your helmet strapped on type. Just what I
took from it was me myself. I need to be
way more level, meaning with his pad level and leverage.
I need to have a posture. I need to have
a plan before the balls even snapped. You can't go
against him not having a planner. It's not going to work.
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That's technique and having a plan before the snap. He
also said, kind of as a decide, I definitely could
have watched some more tape of him before the practices
to get ready for his pass rush moves. Haynes said
that he was jawing back and forth with the Titans
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Pro Bowl defensive tackle. Quote. It was good going against
an all pro type of guy and then just throwing
different things at him, you know, giving me my business.
He's a guy who likes to talk a lot, so
even when I was talking back at him, just having
the confidence going in here and blocking him. So I
asked him what he felt he showed the coaches is Haines.
I asked Haynes what he thought he showed the coaches
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in that second practice going against Simmons, and Haines said,
quote that I can do whatever they need me to do.
I can go out there and do it, play my
best football possible. Somebody that's going to go out there
and be for the team, go out there and give it.
They're all what's interesting about since that practice, Chris on Thursday.
On Saturday, the coaches decided to start both Haynes and Bradford,
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Haines at left guard, Bradford at right guard, and Mike
McDonald said that he really liked what that looked like.
Of course, they have laken Tomlinson, a thirty two year
old on a one year contract, at left guard, and
they were resting Tomlinson on the Saturday preseason game, and
then in the two practices since they've gotten back home
this week, they have alternated and Haines has been the
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first in to start the scrimmage these last two days
and Bradford has been the second. So there's no doubt
that Haines now has more traction to the starter than
he did even a week ago. Thanks for those practices
that Thursday practice in Tennessee. And if they didn't like
how Haines responded to being thrown in there with the
ones against Simmons on Thursday, he wouldn't be alternating reps
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at one right now. So definitely Haines has made a
move at right guard, but it's almost a dead heat
compared to what it was a week ago. Right tackle.
That's not settled either. We talked about Abe Lucas. This
is what if you missed it. This is what Mike
McDonald had to say when he was asking about Abe
Lucas on Monday.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Right now, I probably don't want to answer that question.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That was sustinct anything else, and that wasn't all good either.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
No, we talked about it Monday. That raises more questions.
In my opinion, It makes me wonder, Okay, you don't
have an update. The season's about three weeks away, so
that sounds as if Abe is not close or you're
keeping it close to the vest. But then again, Abe
needs to practice in this new scheme. He can only
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study the iPad for so long. He has to go
out there and execute and try these things. So that
is kind of where I'm starting to believe that Abe
will not be playing Week one.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Signs are now that he's not there at least actouly say,
there are no signs that he's going to be practicing
anytime soon, so it's unrealistic he'd play in Week one.
Up until this point, they had used George Fant primarily
as the right tackle without Lucas on the field. They
had used McLendon Curtis at times early in training camp.
Now this week Stone Forsyth, you remember him, six round
pick from the draft, had just had three picks a
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couple in twenty twenty. Well, he's been mostly a backup
left tackle to Charles Cross, but now he's been playing
right tackling. Yesterday Forsyth got some reps with the ones
alternating with Fans, So they've now used three different guys
on the first team at right tackle without Lucas on
the field most of the time. McLendon Curtis early in camp. Curtis,
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of course, had been the right guard when Bradford had
an injured ankle in the spring. And now Stone Foresight,
who has been a swing backup tackle for right and left.
He was on the starting offense at right tackle at
time yesterday. There's a third position that's not settled yet.
Connor Williams, the center, signed fourteen days ago to a
one year contract three million guaranteed. That money, he's going
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to play. The question is when he's eight months removed
from the torn ac on knee reconstructive surgery there this
week has had his first two practices as a Seahawk,
and they threw him right into the first team center role,
but only for a portion of the scrimmaging the first
portion both on Monday Monday and again yesterday Ola Timmy
went in midway through the practice. So they are definitely
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ramping up and pacing Williams to get to the point
where he could play in the opener in two and
a half weeks September eighth. I don't expect Williams to
play in the game on Saturday, of course, they would
love him to play against the Browns with Gino Smith
in the starting offense. Not sure eight months off an
ACL and only four practices in his return from it,
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that he'll go into game action, but the plan is.
Mike McDonald says that Williams will be able to play
in the opener with a pacing schedule in practice between
now and then. Chris, I just mentioned sixty percent of
the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Hey man, Yeah, there's there yeah, it needs to be
figured out. You'd want to have a complete answer. But
they got one more preseason game. Can we get more answers?
Could Connor? I would assume Connor will make He'll play
a little bit, I would hope.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Just because see because it's so quick back from you
don't think so well, just because he hasn't even completed
a full practice yet.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Well that's you have today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Right I will be watching to see if he does
complete a full practice.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
That'll be a good telling. Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Signs are that Gino Smith may get some snaps for
the home fans. Maybe you may be season ticket holders.
You may be listening deciding whether to go to the
game or not. Maybe you go to see Gino Smith
for when do you guys talk to coach McDonald again tomorrow?
Th Tomorrow, you guys will know if Gno plays. Okay,
probably McDonald has sown far shown to be if you
ask him a question, you'll answer it. If we say
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will Smith play, he'll answer it. But signs are that
they want Smith to get some reps in perhaps a
series or two in Grubs offense. And if they if
Smith plays, you know the starting offensive life.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
So that would be a good till right.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So if they do, then it'll be interesting to see
who starts at right guard, who starts at right tackle,
probably George Fant on Saturday against the Browns. But the
days are gone when the last preseason game used to
be automatically guaranteed no starters would play, because that was
when you had a fourth preseason game and the cuts
were sometimes twenty four hours or two days later. Now
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the final preseason game the cuts are going to be
the twenty seventh next Tuesday, and they have that whole
week without a game of practices and then another week
of the game playing week of practices before the opener.
So coaches now think that they could play your starters
still rest them for two full weeks until the actual
opener on September eighth, which lends itself to the more
the likelihood that Gino Smith may play on Saturday. But
(26:05):
again to Chris's point, we'll talk tomorrow to Mike McDonald
and hopefully get a word on that. But that's where
it stands on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'm going to try to talk to Scott Huff today,
the offensive line coach called for more Washington Husky's line coach,
now the seahawks old line coach. I'm going to try
to talk to him today and try to get him
to sort out all of that and what he's seen
and where it may be headed. And we could air
that interview tomorrow here on the show. Chris, I don't
know four nine four five one. You can also chime
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in what your feelings are on your offensive line two
and a half weeks before the Seahawks opener. You worried
Scott Huff going to figure it out. Ryan Grub going
to figure it out. His offense is predicated on this
offensive line coming together before or it might even be
after September the eighth. We'll talk more next on what
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the Seahawks have and defense. We remember we have Walter
Jones at eleven o'clock to talk about offensive line. Going
to talk to him about how we used to push
trucks in training camp instead of showing up. Mike Combra
never minded that it was fine that he was back
Walter Jones back in Alabama pushing trucks. That's how good
Jones was. All that and more is coming up next
to ninety three point three k jrff Hi welcome back,
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Greg Bell, the News tribunic Christopher Kidd with you, and
I said, Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Seahawks practice the eighth,
thankenth today now of the training camp preseason meet this afternoon.
Press conferences and media availability and interviews one on one
starting at noon. That's when Ian Finnass will take over. Here.
He's sitting across the wall from me right now here
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at Seahawks headquarters. He'll take over twelve until three, four nine,
four five one A toll him. We'll do a text
ligne at eleven thirty. We'll read back your text. That'll
be after Walter Jones joins us at eleven o'clock, looking
forward to hearing from the Hall of Fame offensive tackle,
former Seahawks Ring of Honor, the best to ever do it.
He'll join us at eleven o'clock. We talked about the
offensive line last segment the defense. The main issue on
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defense right now is at linebacker. Jerome Baker remains sidelined.
He had come back for a day to do a
little bit of light formation recognition part of practice, and
not much more. He's had a hamstring issue going on
for two weeks now and it's been Tyree Knight, the
fourth round pick from the University of Texas al Passo,
playing most of the first two preseason games. He played
all the fourth quarters against the Chargers two weeks ago,
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and then Saturday night in Nashville he played about three
and a half quarters left midway through the fourth quarter.
I joked him after the game forgets a trophy for
all the snaps he's been getting, and they'd rather have
Jerome Baker by now next to Terrell Dotson in the
middle of their defense. We'll see when Baker gets back
onto the field to do that. It doesn't look like
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he'll play Saturday in the preseason finale. The starters did
play against the Chargers on defense, not against the Titans
less imperative than Gino Smith in the offense to play
on Saturday in the season preseason finale against Cleveland against
that seven o'clock kickoff. It's on King five television. Walter
Jones is going to be on King five television again
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this year as the postgame analyst with Paul Sylvie, and
he will join us at eleven o'clock. As I said,
four nine, four to five one and tell him we
do tech sign would you ask Walter Jones, the greatest
offensive lineman the Seahawks have ever had, tell us on
the text line, what you'd like to know from Walter Jones,
questions you have for him. We'll pick a couple off.
Maybe ask Walter Jones at eleven o'clock. He has been
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watching the two preseason games. He does have an opinion
on the situation at tackle and across the line of scrimmage.
And I'll ask him how hard it will be for
a center two and a half weeks before the season
begins to learn a new offense and his teammates and
to conduct and direct an offensive line. And that's what
they're asking Connor Williams to do eight months after a
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torn ACF four nine four five one, And to tell him,
we'll do text line. Let us know what you'd ask
Walter Jones. What are you going to ask Walter Jones, Chris,
I'll keep it a secret. I don't want to spoil
it yet, all right, trying to give a primer for
the people on the text line.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Nah, they don't need no help. They got it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
For one. I want to see.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I want to hear his thoughts about the new coaching staff,
for sure, get his opinion on that. Maybe hmm, I'm
thinking about something with Pete, but I don't know. I
might lay off of that just because I think that
was covered yesterday for the most part. But definitely want
to hear his thoughts on the coaching staff and how
he views the offensive line, and maybe any insight on
Abe Lucas. Maybe he knows a thing or two about
injuries and he played the position, so anything any hope
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for Abe and the replacements, what does he see from
those guys and watching the game. So yeah, those are
some of the things that I want to know. I'm
curious to hear what he has to say regarding the
old line, offensive line, and the new coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Four nine four five one. Tell him we'll do a
text line. We have a couple questions already coming in,
one from the two O six and Edmunds. Tell us,
what would you ask Walter Jones if you had the chance,
you had the chance now on the to them, would
do tech line? Four nine four to five one? Coming
up next, the best offensive lineman, maybe the best player
the Seahawks have ever had. Hall of Famer Walter Jones
joins us next on ninety three point three kJ RFM,
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