August 5, 2024 • 34 mins
Gregg Bell is back at Seahawks training camp, while Christopher is on the one's & two's from the studios. The guys run through headlines which includes the Mariners handling business against the Philadelphia Phillies and are holding the lead in the AL West. The biggest news of training camp is the return of Geno Smith, but what does the future hold for Sam Howell. We play audio from Saturday, and Mike Macdonald talks about Howell, might he be the QB in 2026?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, a quick essential Seattle weekend between the weather and
the Blue Angels and Seafair and the hydroplanes and could
see the rooster tails on the water yesterday when we
were out their boats galore.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I think it's safe to say summer's over now. That
was kind of my last who So yeah, I think
I'm sure four nine, four or five one is your summer over.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Any more events coming up for.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You, text and tell them we'll do text line. Please
tell us summer continues, because for those of us it
is over. We'd like to live through you. Fourtnite four
to five one and tell them we do text line.
Your text will read back at eleven thirty. Your reaction
to Gino Smith being back at practice the news to
start off the show that I'm sitting here watching the
eleventh practice the Seahawks training camp right now, and he
was out. He was one of the first He and
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Cody White catching balls up a jugs machine were the
first two guys I saw in the field today for
the eleventh practice. And now everybody's on the field and
it just began fans on the burn and they're going
to practice this week and then Friday night leave for
Los Angeles. The Hawks played the Chargers in their first
preseason game on Saturday at eleven am. You'll hear from
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Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach, in some length. He talked
on Saturday after the practice. He talked about Byron Murphy.
He talked about what he's seen in Sam Howe. I
thought his comments about Sam Howe were interesting. They revealed
why the Seahawks traded for him, and it has very
little to do with what we've seen so far in
training camp. I'll get to that more in a minute.
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Mariners gained this weekend their first place alone in the
American League West after winning a series against the Philadelphia Phillies,
the National League's best team. We'll talk a ton about
the Seahawks, DK Metcalf and Devin Witherspoon. The daily showed
they're putting on was on full display for the fans
in Lumenfield. About five eight thousand fans were there on
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Saturday for the FanFest open practice, the first time Mike
McDonald had seen the home locker room and press conference
area has to go to after games and this the
players also, to their credit, stayed a long time. Chris
after practice signing autographs and Leonard Williams was won after
an interview with NFL Network stayed almost a full hour
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after the practice was ending Greek ruland does that almost
every single day out here when there were fans staying
thirty forty five minutes, And he did that again at
Lumenfield on Saturday. As I mentioned eleven thirty, we'll readback
to your text at four nine, four five one on
the telemordue text line. When it's game time, it's fully time.
And at eleven forty five, in for Ness will join
me as he does every day, He'll be here covering
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headlines the start off the show brought to you by
ben U Kings dot Com. The Mariners I mentioned took
two or three from the NL leading Philadelphia Phillies yesterday
all start Logan Gilbert was locked in a one nothing
game with Zach Wheeler. Logan Gilbert gave up a leadoff
home run in the first inning and that's about it.
But then Seattle's bullpen allowed three home runs and five
runs once Gilbert left the game late. M's hitters got
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just three hits and nothing else off Wheeler, one of
the best pitchers in the National League, and they got
Mariners got shut out for the seventh time this season.
On Saturday night, the Mariners rilly from five runs down
for one of their best wins of the season, considering
the opponent five runs down and one on a walk
off walk of all things, by Mitch Hanneger. Hanneger's starting
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to warm up at the plate now, and he told
reporters this weekend he's gone back to his old batting
stance and more standing upright rather than hunched over, and
he says that alone made him more comfortable, and he
thinks the results have been largely because of that. That
would be a huge help, not if they could get
Mitch Neger hitting in that lineup. Friday night, the Mariners
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beat the Phillies ten too bean a grand slimd by
Justin Turner in his first home game in Seattle, part
of a seven run inning for the Mariners that put
that game away early. The Ms are off today. They
host the Tigers for three games starting tomorrow at the
Yard in Soto, Seattle. Leachch Houston by one game. In
the American League West, the trash Cans are hosting Texas
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in a series that starts tonight. The Seahawks. I mentioned
they were waiting for Geno Smith to return to practice,
and he did this morning. He's on the field for
the first time in six days. Defensive end Draymond Jones
missed his seventh practice in a row on Saturday, and
off a quick look here at the defensive line drills.
I don't see him out here either. He's had a
hamstring issue that Mike McDonald has said was minor, but
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now it's been This would be the eighth practice that
Dramon Jones has missed. He was in street cloths on
the sidelines on Saturday. So was Jerome Baker, the starting
inside linebacker miss Friday and Saturday. McDonald said Baker has
his own hamstring issue. These are the soft tissue injuries
Chris coaches are always trying to avoid it to start
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a camp by telling these guys to stay in leg
shape in the six weeks between mini camp and the
start of training camp. And it's not that the guys
are getting hurt aren't in that shape, but that is
a very common thing. Rick Groins cabs hamstrings in the
first couple weeks of training camp and two Seahawks starters
are out because of it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Not a great start obviously, not what you want to
have with your new starters that is with that that
are unfamiliar with what you want to do defensively, and
especially with Draymond Jones, you know he's he's on a
I would say, dang, your approve it year based on
how last season went, and they're still trying to find
his role. But hopefully this soft tissue injury for Baker
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and him will not have them sidelined much longer, because
you I would hope they're going to be available for
their what's it called their matchup against the Tennessee Titans
when they go to Tennessee joint practices there we go thank.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You a week from Wednesday, nine days from now, they'll
be in Nashville, Tennessee, so they'll they're covering it. But yeah,
you would like them to get meaningful practice competition without
it being in a game situation. And those would be
Wednesday and Thursday of next week to do that. The
players had an off day yesterday. And by the way,
when you see this week videos in film from Seahawks practices,
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you're gonna notice that the offense is in white and
the defense is in blue. Why is that, Well, when
the Seahawks have a game week and the teams the
Seahawks are going to be on the road, they want
the quarterbacks to get used to throwing the offensive players
and recognizing offensive players in white. And when they have
home games, they are in blue and the offense is
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in blue and the defense is in white to get
the quarterbacks used to looking for dark colored jerseys on
game days. Small minor thing, but that's why they do that.
So the offense is in white this week. Elsewhere in
the NFL, you may have heard this morning the Quandre
Diggs reunited with Jaal Adams. Yesterday, Diggs agreed to a
one year contract with the Tennessee Titans, the former Seahawks
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Pro Bowl safety. Two weeks ago, Adams, another former Pro
Bowl Seahawks safety did the same thing with the Titans,
and as Chris just allude to guess what the Seahawks
and Titans practice next week in Nashville, all of a sudden,
that is gonna be a lot spicier than it would
have been otherwise. All Right, it's it's I can see
dk Metcalf, I could see Jackson Smith and Jigba. I
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could see Noah Kenneth Walker. I could see Geno Smith
trading words with Quandry Diggs and Jamal Adams during practices.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Fight fight, fight, fight, That's all I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Those joint practices are all ready always fights. There's two
reasons why there may be fights. The lore at least
some heated discussions and pushing and shoving at the Seahawks
Titans joint practices next week. The team leads Tuesday, a
week from tomorrow, for those practices. After the preseason game
in the Chargers on Saturday, they have an off day Sunday.
They practice here on Monday. They practice here on Tuesday
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and then leave for Tennessee. I'll be leaving Tuesday night,
and I'll be covering for the News Tribune and KJR
from the field in Nashville next Wednesday and Thursday. That's
August fourteen and fifteen. The preseason game is on Saturday,
August seventeenth in Nashville. The second three preseason games at
the Olympics in Paris. This morning, some owned bios are
in silver in the four exercise finals. It's her fourth
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medal in Paris, eleventh Olympic medal overall, second most all
time in American gymnastics history. Her for routine today included
point deductions for stepping out of bounds, and she lost
my scants the percentages of points that if she hadn't
stepped out of bounds, she probably would have won the
gold medal. Brazil's Rebecca andraw Day did win the gold.
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First gymnast to beat Biles in a four final in
a major international competition, so an upset in the sense
that someone Biles want the best ever do it. Of course,
Hurricane Jordan Chiles won the bronze. I don't know if
you saw Chris, but it's pretty cool. The images online
of the medal ceremony from that competition. The four exercise
this morning in Paris Andrada that Brazilian is at the
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top of the podium and some own. Biles and the
teammate Jordan Childs are at her side bowing to her.
I did.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I saw the picture and I thought that was pretty cool,
you know, just so on love. That's what it's about,
enjoying the moment and respecting your opponent.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Elsewhere at the Olympics, Noah Lyles lead into the finish
line and edged Jamaica's Kshane Johnson in a photo finish
to win the men's one hundred meter golden medal on
the track yesterday. Liles is the first American to win
a one hundred and twenty years. He's justin Gatman. That
seems impossible. American Fred Curley won the bronze medal, so
US goes one to three in the one hundred, one
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of the signature events of the Olympic Games. Saturday, the
fans that had not been out to practice in Renting
or had a chance to see the Seahawks on a
weekend in loom And Field their Seahawks annual practice. There.
Those used to be more scrimmages with kickoffs and punts
and whatnot. Much US so of that. They did do kickoffs,
but Viscus Chenault was one of the first return men.
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We talked to him last week on the show about
his roster chances, largely hinging on his return ability. Dee Williams,
the rookie from Tennessee who they've converted from wide receiver
to cornerback here in the first two weeks camp, he
was one of the also one of the ones returning kickoffs,
and Trey Brown. He's been a starting corner here left
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cornerback in training camp, also returning kickoffs. On Saturday, he's
been returning kicks and practices. The Seahawks are continuing to
try to figure out how they're gonna do this kickoff situation.
Are they they want a small, fast, scat guy. They
want a power, bruising bulldozer can pick through tackles that
might be chanalt If they go for that, You're gonna
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start seeing on Saturday night in the preseason game the
different variations of how the Seahawks are going to treat
this new kickoff. The other thing I saw, among others
many other things on Saturday Chris is Byron Murphy continues
to be the fastest lineman out here. He's just so
quick off the ball and offensive lineman usually can't get
to him. And I've mentioned this before, but it's almost
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like a goalkeeper in soccer. An offensive lineman just has
to guess correctly on the direction that Ryan and Murphy's
going to go at the snap in order to stay
with him, and when he guesses wrong, it's a clear
path to the quarterback. That's how fast Murphy is has
been at three hundred five three and one pounds. This
is what Mike McDonald had to say about his top
rookie sixteenth pick in the draft after practice on Saturday
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with Fron.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I feel like I give you guys the same answer
every time he ask. But I mean, he's the guy
that we thought he was. And again, let's not crown
him yet, but he's on the way. He's a force
in there. I think the guys see it. So I'm
pleased with his effort. The guy brings it every day.
There's again there's he's a rookie. There's things that, hey,
we want to attack. But he's a savvy football player.
He knows what he's doing out there. He's not lost,
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he plays fast, he plays rugged. I think the future
is bright for mister Murphy.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Indeed, the future is bright for mister Murphy. They'll be
fan and people who ask about, well, is he starting? No,
he's not starting. Mostly he still runs some with the
starting offense, but he isn't normally a starting defensive tackle.
That's been Jaron Reid, that's been Jonathan Hankins, the new
nose tackle, the true one of two true nose tackles
now with Matt Cottel on the roster. But Murphy's playing
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so much rotationally, and let's face it, they are going
to have to have five six seven front line defensive
lineman and rotating and even in the first quarter games.
I've said this before and written this. They're at their
best when they have nine to ten defensive linemen in
the first playing by the middle of the first quarter,
they're nowhere near that yet. But Murphy is probably the
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first guy in that rotation that's going to have a
He'll get a plenty, plenty of snaps. But Chris, you've
been out there a couple of days, Yep. His legs
are as wide as the field as where all the
power comes from right and the speed for his size
and if he gets inside you I saw a pass
rush drill one on one pass rush on Saturday on
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the field. We were on them sidelines at Lumenfield and
he got inside of Christian Haynes, the rookie right guard.
And he has the strength still Byron Murphy does to
push three hundred and twenty forty pounds linemen into the quarterback.
I mean, he just got inside of Haynes and drove
him straight back as if he was on skates. So
it's not just quickness with Byron Murphy. He has the
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strength to get inside of guys on the offensive line
as well. Anyway, He's not quite all that with the
bag of chips yet, but he's pretty close so far.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So are you won?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You just won a good start with him. And as
I mentioned last week, he has the speed. Now you
just got to add to his game and it's going
to take him to another level. So right now, everyone's
enjoying what they're seeing from him. But I think it
can only get better with this kid, especially if he's
serious about where he wants to be as one of
the best defensive players of all time. So it's only
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a matter of time as he adds to his game,
and the speed's not going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Right and as young as he is in his rookie season,
the speed would probably be his biggest attribute on a
defensive line that needs it thirty first in the NFL
and stopping the run. Last year, they didn't get consistent
pass rush from their defensive linemen. Most of their pressure
came from blitzing in off the edges. Yeah, there's a
ample opportunity for Byron Murphy to be. As Mike McDonald
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put it on Saturday, what we thought he would be
coming up more about Mike McDonald and what he said
about Sam Howe. I thought his answer Saturday about Sam
Howe and assessing his play replacing the injured Gino Smith
for the last four practices. I thought his answer told
why Sam Howe is here, why they traded draft picks
to get him this spring, even though he's a backup.
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That's next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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August fifth through the eleven.
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Now back to the Greg Bell Show with Christopher Kidd
on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r FM.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Hi, Welcome back, Greg Bella of the News Communich. Christopher
Kidd's from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center on ninety three
point three KJRFM. Seahawks training camp Practice eleven is live
and happening right now, a morning practice. I'm watching Geno
Smith rode to Brady Russell, Tyler Mabry and the tight
ends thro the DK metcalf a few minutes ago. He's
in the center of the field. He's back practicing for
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the first time in six days. He missed four practices
with knee and hip issues that have tested out. Okay,
he just completes an out route to Noah Fant. He's
back to full go and full pads, practicing, jogging between drills,
looking no worse for wear from thefore practice that he missed.
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We talked about Sam Howe and he was the starting
quarterback leading the first team offense in the four practices
that Gino Smith missed. Well, how did he look? Well?
He looked the same. Really in those four practices. Every
day seemed similar. He's much improved from his first four
practices a training camp when he was scattering the ball
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all over the place. The last four practices when he
was running the first team offense, he had some real
strings of solid, good throws, sometimes great throws into tight
coverage windows, and then he also had spaces of inaccuracy.
And Saturday was no different. He looked really good early
in the practice, and then there was one series and
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then eleven on eleven in the middle of the field. Well,
he threw on first down into the defensive lineman's hand.
I mean, yeah, that's sometimes bad luck for quarterback to
get a ball batter down, but he still got to
get the ball by him on a throw that was
across the middle. The second down throw was a simple
short out rut by DK Metcalf that an NFL quarterback
usually nails one hundred percent of the time, and Sam
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Howe's throw lawn darted into the ground about three yards
in front of DK Metcalf, who was only about five
yards past the line of scrimmage, skid it in complete,
and then on third down, Leonard Williams got in off
the edge and blocked tipped Howe's third down pass on
an en route to DK Metcalf. Three and out with
none of the three throws reaching his receivers, that's kind
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of how it's gone here in training camp for Sam Howe,
and we've seen glimpses of why he was the Washington
Commander's starting quarterback last year. He went four and thirteen.
He led the NFL with six hundred twelve passes because
the Commanders were down in game so often, and he
led the league with twenty one interceptions. So I asked
mag McDonald after Saturday's practice, what's your assessment of Sam
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Howe as the starting quarterback the last four days. This
is what he said.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
We've gone against Sam before, and you feel the competitor
with Sam. I think that's a big reason why he's here.
We believe in his competitive spirit and his toughness. The
best of Sam I believe is not going to show
in a setting like this because it can't touch him,
you know so, but this guy's been through it and
come out unscathed than I just have a lot of
respect for him a half.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So it's the mindset, Chris, It's the mentality, the toughness,
the competitiveness, the fact that he's been through it and
come out unscathed, in the words of Mike McDonald, meaning
a four and thirteen season and leading the NFL in
twenty one interceptions and them seeing the same mentality from him.
That is why Sam Howe is here, and so it
has nothing to do with the accuracy of the passes
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per se. Of course you need to be accurate to
start in the league, but I thought that was telling
Chris that it wasn't. It was more of what his
how he's made up than who he is as a
person than he is as of the accuracy of a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And he's still so young.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
He's twenty three years old, He's played, he has a
full season under his belt. Obviously, you mentioned his issues
with turnovers, but he's going to be sitting behind someone
who used to be turnover prone and Gino Smith and
now has changed his game dramatically, And I think maybe
their belief in Sam is that he can those turnovers
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will get He'll have less and less turnovers as he
gets more experienced. Now unfortunately he's not going to get
that experience this season, But sitting behind and learning from Geno,
I think is what this team is banking on and
maybe in two years this is the starting quarterback for
the Seahawks in the future. That has improved his game
dramatically and this offense is even better. So it is
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telling that what Mike McDonald did say about Sam, but
he believes that he is he has the mental capacity
to be a quarterback. And that's kind of where it
all starts. When you are struggling, how do you bounce back?
And it sounds that with Sam those issues that he
had last season, he still played through it and he
finished the season.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Although they stunk. They're a four point thirteen.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He was out there night in, night out, competing and
doing his best. And I have to love that about
a player, the competitive nature. That's huge. And we shall
see how this all unfolds. I would think in the
next two years the draft might have a quarterback that
can bring in as well. Obviously you don't want the
Seahawks struggling because then they'd have a top pick. But
in this scenario, maybe Sam is really the future. So
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I at twenty five years old going into what that's
the twenty twenty sixth season, Sam is starting?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Who knows, But it's good that your head coaches is it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Loved the mentality of a young quarterback that had a
really really struggled last season but almost do for what
four thousand yards, so there's there's something to look for there.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Twenty one touchdowns, twenty one interceptions, four nine four five
one on the toplem. We'll do tech line when's game time.
It's Telly ten. How do you feel or what you've
seen and heard about Sam Howe as the quarterback? Is
he the quarterback of the future for this team? It
bears repeating. Gino Smith's contract ends after next season and
Sam house contract ends after next season. Hit the rookie
deal that the Seahawks inherited in the trade from the
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Washington Commanders has two years and next left on it
for Sam Howe. So as we speak, they don't have
a quarterback beyond twenty twenty five. They have two under
contract through twenty twenty five that they have a decision
to make. And as we've said how many times, the
decision on Sam Howe's gonna come largely based on how
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he looks. And these practices are going on right now
in the preseason game starting Saturday night against the Chargers
in Inglewood. Because if it goes according to plan and
Gino Smith doesn't have any setbacks and doesn't get re injured,
Sam How's not gonna play any meaningful snaps for this team.
It'll be Gino Smith this year. So this time next year,
the only snaps they'll have to go on are these
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training camp practice snaps and the preseason snap. Well, what
about the regular season. In the regular season, the number
one quarterback gets all of the snaps, I mean all
of the snaps with the starting offense between games because
there's a limited number of reps on four practice days,
one of them being a walkthrough between one game and
the next. And the backup quarterback is exclusively the scout
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team quarterback. And last year I remember Drew Locke telling
me that he worked with Dave Canalis after practices. Now,
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach was last year quarterbacks
coach for Seattle. He worked with Canalis after practices on
the Seahawks game plans because he spent the entire practices
working on the other team's game plans and practicing and
the plays for the other team against the starting defense.
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So Sam Howe, his impression time is right now as
in the last four days today this week Saturday night
in the Chargers, the preseason game against the Chargers, because
Chris I don't see them playing Geno Smith Saturday night.
They may not have played a much anyway, But now
that he's coming off this hip and knee issue, I
don't really think they're the reason to expose him to
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a starting defense right now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, it'd be safe not to just because you want
to make sure your starting quarterback is available for week
one of the season. But yeah, Sam's gonna get another opportunity.
He's gonna get a lot of preseason reps to command
Ryan Grubbs offense, and that'll be a really good tale
of how he's been through training camp and how he's
put it all together for going against a different opponent.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It won't be his teammates.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It'll be in this scenario, the Chargers, and they're gonna
go up and they're gonna compete. And if he goes
out and has a successful preseason one game, that's a
good start. So you as you keep mentioning he's not
gonna play this season unless something happens to Gino, but
he could learn a hell of a lot and that
could again come to fruition in twenty twenty six, when
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there probably likely won't be any Geno unless he is
playing elite football going into his late thirties and Sam
is you know, it's just not working out. They still
have a number one QB and Gino is definitely the guy.
So that in totality, I'm really focusing on the preseason
for Sam and how he handles a turnover, how he
handles a huge third down overthrow or underthrow, just how
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he manages those mistakes in the game, because it's gonna happen.
It's how do you bounce back and how do you
recover and how do you keep the offense rolling when
things do go wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Of course, the context all of that is if if
Sam Howe the only thing you're judging them on is
preseason games, what's the other team doing in the preseason?
You know the Chargers gonna play their defensive starters. Probably not,
probably not so the practices in Nashville, for instance, next week,
when they go joint practices, it most likely will be
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ones on ones and the most extensive ones on one's
drills of the preseason with another team are gonna happen
on the practice field in Nashville next week. And Sam
Howe probably won't get those reps either. It'll probably be
Gino Smith. Why wouldn't it be Gino Smith with the
starting offense next week in the practices in Nashville. Gino
Smith now walking up the field talking to Ryan grub is,
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they got Eve to start the team eleven on eleven
portions of practices, or at least the group now that
the offensive line is joining the quarterbacks and receivers. But
it does make you wonder that if they're gonna base
Sam Howe off last year's twenty one interception four in
thirteen season with Washington and now these practices in preseason games,
how realistic is that? It's not. It's not it's not
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real games. And if he's playing in real games this year,
something has gone wrong, either injury wise or performance wise,
way wrong with Gino Smith. So it is interesting. It's
why I asked the question that the night of the
draft ended to John Schneider, what's your plan a quarterback
for the future on twenty twenty five. He didn't like
the question. It's still it still applies, and it's going
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to apply at the end of the season. It's gonna
still apply at the start of next year's training cap
because I don't see anything definitive about Sam Howe coming
out of preseason games when the competition may not be
giving him a I Jim Harbaugh strikes me as someone
the new Chargers coaches, someone who's not going to play
as defensive starters all that much. Gino Smith, if he
doesn't play Saturday night, it would stand a reason he's
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going to play a lot in Tennessee. Or will they
just let the practices against the Titans next week stand
for his ones reps? But eventually he needs to get
game reps in this new offense and see what Ryan
Grubbs system plays like in a game. Now they're going
to one on ones with DK Metcalff against Trey Brown.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
DK should win this route. Oh that's Cody, You know what.
They should get rid of slants and one on ones.
That is such a cheese route. It doesn't take much.
Or if anything, are they using.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
The whole It's good for the receivers getting off the line,
and it's really good for the cornerbacks to learn leverage
and try to get inside leverage on the receiver.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
True, The one question is are they using the entire
field on that or they using you know numbers to
or I should say hash is to the numbers for
the end zone because I'm assuming they're going to the
en zone for this correct yea.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Into the end zone, and I mean they're in the slot.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, that's fair. Numbers, Okay, that's fair. I'm okay with it.
Then I don't like using the whole field and then
someone running a slant like, come on, man, there's gonna
be linebackers. It's not gonna be Manda Man every time.
But to your point, if it's hash to numbers into
the end zone, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's fair. Devin Witherspoon against Jake Bobo. I got Jake
on this one press man coverage on an outside release
and a double move inside. Bobo gets inside of Witherspoon
and makes a catchp.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
One for one, let's go, or two for two? Excuse me,
not even there.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
The eleven practice the Seahawks training camp has begun. Gino
Smith is out in full pads, participating fully, throwing, and
back to normal after missing four practices. Up next the
daily show of Metcalf against Devin Witherspoon. Two starters who
remain out today in practice for the third and eighth
consecutive times, I'll mention the defensive starters that are still
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out and all else I'm noticing here at Seahawks training camp.
At eleven o'clock you'll hear from Mike McDonald, the head
coach of the Seahawks. Coming up next on ninety three
point three KJRFM. Hi, welcome back right now the news
of being Christopher Kid from the Seahawks training camp. Eleventh practice.
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A training camp here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center
going on right now a morning practice, Chris, I just
saw the best repid defensive back half against DK Metcalf
one on one a long time is Trey Brown.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh, Trey Brown has been money this training camp. I
know he gives up some stuff, but continue.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He's six inches shorter and about forty pounds lighter than
DK Metcalf. And they're doing a one on one drill
outside right from the five yard line, just quarterback, receiver
and defensive back from the five yard line going in
and at the snap, Trey Brown went hard right into
DK Metcalf's chest, a hard shiver, and Devin Witherspoon loved it.
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You'd standing about ten yards away on the near sideline
and he's going yeah, yeah, and the jam at the
line threw Metcalf off of his route and it was
a It was a fade route to the back right
corner of the end zone, and by the time Gino
Smith throw arrived was already so far inside of Metcalf.
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DK Metcalf had no chance to catch that pass and
Brown broke it up and there was official right there,
no flag, and Witherspon loved it. He's growing and loving it,
and Brown got up strutting as he should. I talked
to Brown at Saturday's screen FanFest just off It wasn't
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with a recorder or nopad, and he was talking about
how people don't realize how much DK Metcalf improves the
cornerbacks of the Seahawks have and how much going against
him one on one each day. He said, it's actually
harder than games because of there's no receiver six four
two thirty eight who jump forty one inches and run
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ten flat one hundred yard dashes in the NFL. And
so Trey Brown just was going on and on about
DK Metcalf and how much better he makes him as
a player in training camp and he loses some of
that during the regular season. Not going against him like
that as hard as it's physically in regular season practices.
But yeah, that was that was a good rap and
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I wish fans had seen that. I'll be writing about
that in the News Tribute tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's so annoying that other teams you can show video
of one on ones, but the Seahawks are so strict
on that because if you just go on Twitter and
search one on ones, you will see I feel as
if every other team will a lot of teams showing
off players going one on one.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, the team will and the Seahawks will show some
of that.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
And they won't show some of that, but they should.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Making a diving catch.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, I get it, I understand it, but at the
same time, it's not going to I don't think it's
going to hurt the players or what they're trying to
do for the regular season.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
But that's just me.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'm not a coach. I don't do any of that.
I get it, but it's it's annoying. I will say
that much.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
When Mike Donald was with the Ravens, the Ravens had
a staff of people who just scoured the internet looking
for clips from practices, from fans, from reporters, from from
wedding sources from the teams themselves, and they gleaned The
Ravens did a lot from those clips. They teamed personnels,
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some formation stuff, some tendencies, they they scouted that stuff.
And Mike McDonald came here and said, Ah, we're not
gonna do it. We're not going to give the Ravens
of the world the opportunity to go see what we
do during training camp. And so that's part of the
reason that that it isn't like it is. They're telling
fans they can't shoot practices and now they're going to
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eleven on eleven and for the third straight practice, Jerome
Baker is not on the field at weakside inside linebacker,
and guess who's taking his place. It's the rookie fourth
round pick Tyree Knight, who's got to run here in
the last three practices as a starting linebacker next to
to Rel Dotson, the signal caller. Interesting for him. Now
we got a fracas in a fight and flags and
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oh it's on the defensive sideline and spooning it. I'm
sure he has something to do with it. I can't
see among the massive forty some players that are back
and forth. That was Kenneth Walker took exception to something.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
At an end of a play, probably a little extra shove, Yeah,
extra going on.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
It broke that up. But Jerome Baker has missed the
last three practices. And I don't see Draymond Jones out
there either. I walked down during the commercial break to
the defensive line drolls, and I don't see him. Now
Walker's still going at it in between plays. They have
to be separated again, and who's he going after it with?
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Oh wow? One rolling against Walker into this offensive sideline.
And now they've taken Walker out of the scrimmage. Witherspoon
still gesturing over to the offensive sideline. We've reached that
point in camp where it's overdue for a chance for
other team, for them to start hitting another team the
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Draymond Jones is missing his eighth consecutive practice. It was
supposedly a minor hamstring issue. That's what Mike McDonald said
last weekend, not this past weekend, but a weekend before that.
And Graymont Jones missed the entire week of practices last week.
He's starting off this week not practicing either. He's been
a defensive end slash outside linebacker at times and when
he's in the outside linebacker mode. He's still been an
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edgeresher going after a quarterback, but they are moving him
around a little bit more than the team did last
year when he was a hand on the ground defensive end.
But that's two defensive starters on a defense that's not
yet fully installed, who aren't on the field for most
of the last week. Now, how far are they installed?
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He said, they're not there yet. Mike McDonald of his defense,
he said, they're getting there, and that means a lot
of things. Installation, the players knowledge of it, the players play,
and how their intensity. He said last week, I don't
want to say we have a long way to go,
but we're not there yet. As the fans applaud along
completion from Geno Smith to Jackson Smith INJIGBA. Coming up next,
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you're gonna hear from Mike McDonald. You're gonna hear from
his assessment of Saturday's fan Fest practice, his assessment of
Sam Howe, his assessment of Byron Murphy. He loves him,
by the way. You're gonna hear what the noudated comments
about Geno Smith because he's out on the practice field today,
McDonald said Saturday, he expected him back on the field
sometime this week. That sometime is today. Seahawks coach Mike
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McDonald coming up next after headlines on ninety three point
three KJRFM.
Yeah, a quick essential Seattle weekend between the weather and
the Blue Angels and Seafair and the hydroplanes and could
see the rooster tails on the water yesterday when we
were out their boats galore.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I think it's safe to say summer's over now. That
was kind of my last who So yeah, I think
I'm sure four nine, four or five one is your summer over.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Any more events coming up for.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You, text and tell them we'll do text line. Please
tell us summer continues, because for those of us it
is over. We'd like to live through you. Fourtnite four
to five one and tell them we do text line.
Your text will read back at eleven thirty. Your reaction
to Gino Smith being back at practice the news to
start off the show that I'm sitting here watching the
eleventh practice the Seahawks training camp right now, and he
was out. He was one of the first He and
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Cody White catching balls up a jugs machine were the
first two guys I saw in the field today for
the eleventh practice. And now everybody's on the field and
it just began fans on the burn and they're going
to practice this week and then Friday night leave for
Los Angeles. The Hawks played the Chargers in their first
preseason game on Saturday at eleven am. You'll hear from
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Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach, in some length. He talked
on Saturday after the practice. He talked about Byron Murphy.
He talked about what he's seen in Sam Howe. I
thought his comments about Sam Howe were interesting. They revealed
why the Seahawks traded for him, and it has very
little to do with what we've seen so far in
training camp. I'll get to that more in a minute.
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Mariners gained this weekend their first place alone in the
American League West after winning a series against the Philadelphia Phillies,
the National League's best team. We'll talk a ton about
the Seahawks, DK Metcalf and Devin Witherspoon. The daily showed
they're putting on was on full display for the fans
in Lumenfield. About five eight thousand fans were there on
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Saturday for the FanFest open practice, the first time Mike
McDonald had seen the home locker room and press conference
area has to go to after games and this the
players also, to their credit, stayed a long time. Chris
after practice signing autographs and Leonard Williams was won after
an interview with NFL Network stayed almost a full hour
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after the practice was ending Greek ruland does that almost
every single day out here when there were fans staying
thirty forty five minutes, And he did that again at
Lumenfield on Saturday. As I mentioned eleven thirty, we'll readback
to your text at four nine, four five one on
the telemordue text line. When it's game time, it's fully time.
And at eleven forty five, in for Ness will join
me as he does every day, He'll be here covering
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training camp for Fox thirteen and all of us at
ninety three point three KJRFM. Again we're walldawall coverage from
six am, Chuck and Buck all the way through Dave Softy, Maller,
Dick Fane out here at Seahawks training camp all the
way through seven pm. Every day. The Seahawks are here,
so are we at ninety three point three KJRFM. Your
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headlines the start off the show brought to you by
ben U Kings dot Com. The Mariners I mentioned took
two or three from the NL leading Philadelphia Phillies yesterday
all start Logan Gilbert was locked in a one nothing
game with Zach Wheeler. Logan Gilbert gave up a leadoff
home run in the first inning and that's about it.
But then Seattle's bullpen allowed three home runs and five
runs once Gilbert left the game late. M's hitters got
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just three hits and nothing else off Wheeler, one of
the best pitchers in the National League, and they got
Mariners got shut out for the seventh time this season.
On Saturday night, the Mariners rilly from five runs down
for one of their best wins of the season, considering
the opponent five runs down and one on a walk
off walk of all things, by Mitch Hanneger. Hanneger's starting
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to warm up at the plate now, and he told
reporters this weekend he's gone back to his old batting
stance and more standing upright rather than hunched over, and
he says that alone made him more comfortable, and he
thinks the results have been largely because of that. That
would be a huge help, not if they could get
Mitch Neger hitting in that lineup. Friday night, the Mariners
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beat the Phillies ten too bean a grand slimd by
Justin Turner in his first home game in Seattle, part
of a seven run inning for the Mariners that put
that game away early. The Ms are off today. They
host the Tigers for three games starting tomorrow at the
Yard in Soto, Seattle. Leachch Houston by one game. In
the American League West, the trash Cans are hosting Texas
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in a series that starts tonight. The Seahawks. I mentioned
they were waiting for Geno Smith to return to practice,
and he did this morning. He's on the field for
the first time in six days. Defensive end Draymond Jones
missed his seventh practice in a row on Saturday, and
off a quick look here at the defensive line drills.
I don't see him out here either. He's had a
hamstring issue that Mike McDonald has said was minor, but
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now it's been This would be the eighth practice that
Dramon Jones has missed. He was in street cloths on
the sidelines on Saturday. So was Jerome Baker, the starting
inside linebacker miss Friday and Saturday. McDonald said Baker has
his own hamstring issue. These are the soft tissue injuries
Chris coaches are always trying to avoid it to start
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a camp by telling these guys to stay in leg
shape in the six weeks between mini camp and the
start of training camp. And it's not that the guys
are getting hurt aren't in that shape, but that is
a very common thing. Rick Groins cabs hamstrings in the
first couple weeks of training camp and two Seahawks starters
are out because of it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Not a great start obviously, not what you want to
have with your new starters that is with that that
are unfamiliar with what you want to do defensively, and
especially with Draymond Jones, you know he's he's on a
I would say, dang, your approve it year based on
how last season went, and they're still trying to find
his role. But hopefully this soft tissue injury for Baker
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and him will not have them sidelined much longer, because
you I would hope they're going to be available for
their what's it called their matchup against the Tennessee Titans
when they go to Tennessee joint practices there we go thank.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You a week from Wednesday, nine days from now, they'll
be in Nashville, Tennessee, so they'll they're covering it. But yeah,
you would like them to get meaningful practice competition without
it being in a game situation. And those would be
Wednesday and Thursday of next week to do that. The
players had an off day yesterday. And by the way,
when you see this week videos in film from Seahawks practices,
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you're gonna notice that the offense is in white and
the defense is in blue. Why is that, Well, when
the Seahawks have a game week and the teams the
Seahawks are going to be on the road, they want
the quarterbacks to get used to throwing the offensive players
and recognizing offensive players in white. And when they have
home games, they are in blue and the offense is
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in blue and the defense is in white to get
the quarterbacks used to looking for dark colored jerseys on
game days. Small minor thing, but that's why they do that.
So the offense is in white this week. Elsewhere in
the NFL, you may have heard this morning the Quandre
Diggs reunited with Jaal Adams. Yesterday, Diggs agreed to a
one year contract with the Tennessee Titans, the former Seahawks
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Pro Bowl safety. Two weeks ago, Adams, another former Pro
Bowl Seahawks safety did the same thing with the Titans,
and as Chris just allude to guess what the Seahawks
and Titans practice next week in Nashville, all of a sudden,
that is gonna be a lot spicier than it would
have been otherwise. All Right, it's it's I can see
dk Metcalf, I could see Jackson Smith and Jigba. I
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could see Noah Kenneth Walker. I could see Geno Smith
trading words with Quandry Diggs and Jamal Adams during practices.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Fight fight, fight, fight, That's all I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Those joint practices are all ready always fights. There's two
reasons why there may be fights. The lore at least
some heated discussions and pushing and shoving at the Seahawks
Titans joint practices next week. The team leads Tuesday, a
week from tomorrow, for those practices. After the preseason game
in the Chargers on Saturday, they have an off day Sunday.
They practice here on Monday. They practice here on Tuesday
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and then leave for Tennessee. I'll be leaving Tuesday night,
and I'll be covering for the News Tribune and KJR
from the field in Nashville next Wednesday and Thursday. That's
August fourteen and fifteen. The preseason game is on Saturday,
August seventeenth in Nashville. The second three preseason games at
the Olympics in Paris. This morning, some owned bios are
in silver in the four exercise finals. It's her fourth
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medal in Paris, eleventh Olympic medal overall, second most all
time in American gymnastics history. Her for routine today included
point deductions for stepping out of bounds, and she lost
my scants the percentages of points that if she hadn't
stepped out of bounds, she probably would have won the
gold medal. Brazil's Rebecca andraw Day did win the gold.
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First gymnast to beat Biles in a four final in
a major international competition, so an upset in the sense
that someone Biles want the best ever do it. Of course,
Hurricane Jordan Chiles won the bronze. I don't know if
you saw Chris, but it's pretty cool. The images online
of the medal ceremony from that competition. The four exercise
this morning in Paris Andrada that Brazilian is at the
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top of the podium and some own. Biles and the
teammate Jordan Childs are at her side bowing to her.
I did.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I saw the picture and I thought that was pretty cool,
you know, just so on love. That's what it's about,
enjoying the moment and respecting your opponent.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Elsewhere at the Olympics, Noah Lyles lead into the finish
line and edged Jamaica's Kshane Johnson in a photo finish
to win the men's one hundred meter golden medal on
the track yesterday. Liles is the first American to win
a one hundred and twenty years. He's justin Gatman. That
seems impossible. American Fred Curley won the bronze medal, so
US goes one to three in the one hundred, one
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of the signature events of the Olympic Games. Saturday, the
fans that had not been out to practice in Renting
or had a chance to see the Seahawks on a
weekend in loom And Field their Seahawks annual practice. There.
Those used to be more scrimmages with kickoffs and punts
and whatnot. Much US so of that. They did do kickoffs,
but Viscus Chenault was one of the first return men.
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We talked to him last week on the show about
his roster chances, largely hinging on his return ability. Dee Williams,
the rookie from Tennessee who they've converted from wide receiver
to cornerback here in the first two weeks camp, he
was one of the also one of the ones returning kickoffs,
and Trey Brown. He's been a starting corner here left
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cornerback in training camp, also returning kickoffs. On Saturday, he's
been returning kicks and practices. The Seahawks are continuing to
try to figure out how they're gonna do this kickoff situation.
Are they they want a small, fast, scat guy. They
want a power, bruising bulldozer can pick through tackles that
might be chanalt If they go for that, You're gonna
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start seeing on Saturday night in the preseason game the
different variations of how the Seahawks are going to treat
this new kickoff. The other thing I saw, among others
many other things on Saturday Chris is Byron Murphy continues
to be the fastest lineman out here. He's just so
quick off the ball and offensive lineman usually can't get
to him. And I've mentioned this before, but it's almost
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like a goalkeeper in soccer. An offensive lineman just has
to guess correctly on the direction that Ryan and Murphy's
going to go at the snap in order to stay
with him, and when he guesses wrong, it's a clear
path to the quarterback. That's how fast Murphy is has
been at three hundred five three and one pounds. This
is what Mike McDonald had to say about his top
rookie sixteenth pick in the draft after practice on Saturday
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with Fron.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I feel like I give you guys the same answer
every time he ask. But I mean, he's the guy
that we thought he was. And again, let's not crown
him yet, but he's on the way. He's a force
in there. I think the guys see it. So I'm
pleased with his effort. The guy brings it every day.
There's again there's he's a rookie. There's things that, hey,
we want to attack. But he's a savvy football player.
He knows what he's doing out there. He's not lost,
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he plays fast, he plays rugged. I think the future
is bright for mister Murphy.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Indeed, the future is bright for mister Murphy. They'll be
fan and people who ask about, well, is he starting? No,
he's not starting. Mostly he still runs some with the
starting offense, but he isn't normally a starting defensive tackle.
That's been Jaron Reid, that's been Jonathan Hankins, the new
nose tackle, the true one of two true nose tackles
now with Matt Cottel on the roster. But Murphy's playing
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so much rotationally, and let's face it, they are going
to have to have five six seven front line defensive
lineman and rotating and even in the first quarter games.
I've said this before and written this. They're at their
best when they have nine to ten defensive linemen in
the first playing by the middle of the first quarter,
they're nowhere near that yet. But Murphy is probably the
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first guy in that rotation that's going to have a
He'll get a plenty, plenty of snaps. But Chris, you've
been out there a couple of days, Yep. His legs
are as wide as the field as where all the
power comes from right and the speed for his size
and if he gets inside you I saw a pass
rush drill one on one pass rush on Saturday on
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the field. We were on them sidelines at Lumenfield and
he got inside of Christian Haynes, the rookie right guard.
And he has the strength still Byron Murphy does to
push three hundred and twenty forty pounds linemen into the quarterback.
I mean, he just got inside of Haynes and drove
him straight back as if he was on skates. So
it's not just quickness with Byron Murphy. He has the
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strength to get inside of guys on the offensive line
as well. Anyway, He's not quite all that with the
bag of chips yet, but he's pretty close so far.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So are you won?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You just won a good start with him. And as
I mentioned last week, he has the speed. Now you
just got to add to his game and it's going
to take him to another level. So right now, everyone's
enjoying what they're seeing from him. But I think it
can only get better with this kid, especially if he's
serious about where he wants to be as one of
the best defensive players of all time. So it's only
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a matter of time as he adds to his game,
and the speed's not going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Right and as young as he is in his rookie season,
the speed would probably be his biggest attribute on a
defensive line that needs it thirty first in the NFL
and stopping the run. Last year, they didn't get consistent
pass rush from their defensive linemen. Most of their pressure
came from blitzing in off the edges. Yeah, there's a
ample opportunity for Byron Murphy to be. As Mike McDonald
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put it on Saturday, what we thought he would be
coming up more about Mike McDonald and what he said
about Sam Howe. I thought his answer Saturday about Sam
Howe and assessing his play replacing the injured Gino Smith
for the last four practices. I thought his answer told
why Sam Howe is here, why they traded draft picks
to get him this spring, even though he's a backup.
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That's next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
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Speaker 3 (15:00):
August fifth through the eleven.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Now back to the Greg Bell Show with Christopher Kidd
on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r FM.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Hi, Welcome back, Greg Bella of the News Communich. Christopher
Kidd's from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center on ninety three
point three KJRFM. Seahawks training camp Practice eleven is live
and happening right now, a morning practice. I'm watching Geno
Smith rode to Brady Russell, Tyler Mabry and the tight
ends thro the DK metcalf a few minutes ago. He's
in the center of the field. He's back practicing for
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the first time in six days. He missed four practices
with knee and hip issues that have tested out. Okay,
he just completes an out route to Noah Fant. He's
back to full go and full pads, practicing, jogging between drills,
looking no worse for wear from thefore practice that he missed.
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We talked about Sam Howe and he was the starting
quarterback leading the first team offense in the four practices
that Gino Smith missed. Well, how did he look? Well?
He looked the same. Really in those four practices. Every
day seemed similar. He's much improved from his first four
practices a training camp when he was scattering the ball
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all over the place. The last four practices when he
was running the first team offense, he had some real
strings of solid, good throws, sometimes great throws into tight
coverage windows, and then he also had spaces of inaccuracy.
And Saturday was no different. He looked really good early
in the practice, and then there was one series and
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then eleven on eleven in the middle of the field. Well,
he threw on first down into the defensive lineman's hand.
I mean, yeah, that's sometimes bad luck for quarterback to
get a ball batter down, but he still got to
get the ball by him on a throw that was
across the middle. The second down throw was a simple
short out rut by DK Metcalf that an NFL quarterback
usually nails one hundred percent of the time, and Sam
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Howe's throw lawn darted into the ground about three yards
in front of DK Metcalf, who was only about five
yards past the line of scrimmage, skid it in complete,
and then on third down, Leonard Williams got in off
the edge and blocked tipped Howe's third down pass on
an en route to DK Metcalf. Three and out with
none of the three throws reaching his receivers, that's kind
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of how it's gone here in training camp for Sam Howe,
and we've seen glimpses of why he was the Washington
Commander's starting quarterback last year. He went four and thirteen.
He led the NFL with six hundred twelve passes because
the Commanders were down in game so often, and he
led the league with twenty one interceptions. So I asked
mag McDonald after Saturday's practice, what's your assessment of Sam
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Howe as the starting quarterback the last four days. This
is what he said.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
We've gone against Sam before, and you feel the competitor
with Sam. I think that's a big reason why he's here.
We believe in his competitive spirit and his toughness. The
best of Sam I believe is not going to show
in a setting like this because it can't touch him,
you know so, but this guy's been through it and
come out unscathed than I just have a lot of
respect for him a half.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So it's the mindset, Chris, It's the mentality, the toughness,
the competitiveness, the fact that he's been through it and
come out unscathed, in the words of Mike McDonald, meaning
a four and thirteen season and leading the NFL in
twenty one interceptions and them seeing the same mentality from him.
That is why Sam Howe is here, and so it
has nothing to do with the accuracy of the passes
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per se. Of course you need to be accurate to
start in the league, but I thought that was telling
Chris that it wasn't. It was more of what his
how he's made up than who he is as a
person than he is as of the accuracy of a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And he's still so young.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
He's twenty three years old, He's played, he has a
full season under his belt. Obviously, you mentioned his issues
with turnovers, but he's going to be sitting behind someone
who used to be turnover prone and Gino Smith and
now has changed his game dramatically, And I think maybe
their belief in Sam is that he can those turnovers
(19:12):
will get He'll have less and less turnovers as he
gets more experienced. Now unfortunately he's not going to get
that experience this season, But sitting behind and learning from Geno,
I think is what this team is banking on and
maybe in two years this is the starting quarterback for
the Seahawks in the future. That has improved his game
dramatically and this offense is even better. So it is
(19:34):
telling that what Mike McDonald did say about Sam, but
he believes that he is he has the mental capacity
to be a quarterback. And that's kind of where it
all starts. When you are struggling, how do you bounce back?
And it sounds that with Sam those issues that he
had last season, he still played through it and he
finished the season.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Although they stunk. They're a four point thirteen.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He was out there night in, night out, competing and
doing his best. And I have to love that about
a player, the competitive nature. That's huge. And we shall
see how this all unfolds. I would think in the
next two years the draft might have a quarterback that
can bring in as well. Obviously you don't want the
Seahawks struggling because then they'd have a top pick. But
in this scenario, maybe Sam is really the future. So
(20:18):
I at twenty five years old going into what that's
the twenty twenty sixth season, Sam is starting?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Who knows, But it's good that your head coaches is it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Loved the mentality of a young quarterback that had a
really really struggled last season but almost do for what
four thousand yards, so there's there's something to look for there.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Twenty one touchdowns, twenty one interceptions, four nine four five
one on the toplem. We'll do tech line when's game time.
It's Telly ten. How do you feel or what you've
seen and heard about Sam Howe as the quarterback? Is
he the quarterback of the future for this team? It
bears repeating. Gino Smith's contract ends after next season and
Sam house contract ends after next season. Hit the rookie
deal that the Seahawks inherited in the trade from the
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Washington Commanders has two years and next left on it
for Sam Howe. So as we speak, they don't have
a quarterback beyond twenty twenty five. They have two under
contract through twenty twenty five that they have a decision
to make. And as we've said how many times, the
decision on Sam Howe's gonna come largely based on how
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he looks. And these practices are going on right now
in the preseason game starting Saturday night against the Chargers
in Inglewood. Because if it goes according to plan and
Gino Smith doesn't have any setbacks and doesn't get re injured,
Sam How's not gonna play any meaningful snaps for this team.
It'll be Gino Smith this year. So this time next year,
the only snaps they'll have to go on are these
(21:40):
training camp practice snaps and the preseason snap. Well, what
about the regular season. In the regular season, the number
one quarterback gets all of the snaps, I mean all
of the snaps with the starting offense between games because
there's a limited number of reps on four practice days,
one of them being a walkthrough between one game and
the next. And the backup quarterback is exclusively the scout
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team quarterback. And last year I remember Drew Locke telling
me that he worked with Dave Canalis after practices. Now,
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach was last year quarterbacks
coach for Seattle. He worked with Canalis after practices on
the Seahawks game plans because he spent the entire practices
working on the other team's game plans and practicing and
the plays for the other team against the starting defense.
(22:24):
So Sam Howe, his impression time is right now as
in the last four days today this week Saturday night
in the Chargers, the preseason game against the Chargers, because
Chris I don't see them playing Geno Smith Saturday night.
They may not have played a much anyway, But now
that he's coming off this hip and knee issue, I
don't really think they're the reason to expose him to
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a starting defense right now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, it'd be safe not to just because you want
to make sure your starting quarterback is available for week
one of the season. But yeah, Sam's gonna get another opportunity.
He's gonna get a lot of preseason reps to command
Ryan Grubbs offense, and that'll be a really good tale
of how he's been through training camp and how he's
put it all together for going against a different opponent.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It won't be his teammates.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It'll be in this scenario, the Chargers, and they're gonna
go up and they're gonna compete. And if he goes
out and has a successful preseason one game, that's a
good start. So you as you keep mentioning he's not
gonna play this season unless something happens to Gino, but
he could learn a hell of a lot and that
could again come to fruition in twenty twenty six, when
(23:33):
there probably likely won't be any Geno unless he is
playing elite football going into his late thirties and Sam
is you know, it's just not working out. They still
have a number one QB and Gino is definitely the guy.
So that in totality, I'm really focusing on the preseason
for Sam and how he handles a turnover, how he
handles a huge third down overthrow or underthrow, just how
(23:56):
he manages those mistakes in the game, because it's gonna happen.
It's how do you bounce back and how do you
recover and how do you keep the offense rolling when
things do go wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Of course, the context all of that is if if
Sam Howe the only thing you're judging them on is
preseason games, what's the other team doing in the preseason?
You know the Chargers gonna play their defensive starters. Probably not,
probably not so the practices in Nashville, for instance, next week,
when they go joint practices, it most likely will be
(24:26):
ones on ones and the most extensive ones on one's
drills of the preseason with another team are gonna happen
on the practice field in Nashville next week. And Sam
Howe probably won't get those reps either. It'll probably be
Gino Smith. Why wouldn't it be Gino Smith with the
starting offense next week in the practices in Nashville. Gino
Smith now walking up the field talking to Ryan grub is,
(24:47):
they got Eve to start the team eleven on eleven
portions of practices, or at least the group now that
the offensive line is joining the quarterbacks and receivers. But
it does make you wonder that if they're gonna base
Sam Howe off last year's twenty one interception four in
thirteen season with Washington and now these practices in preseason games,
how realistic is that? It's not. It's not it's not
(25:09):
real games. And if he's playing in real games this year,
something has gone wrong, either injury wise or performance wise,
way wrong with Gino Smith. So it is interesting. It's
why I asked the question that the night of the
draft ended to John Schneider, what's your plan a quarterback
for the future on twenty twenty five. He didn't like
the question. It's still it still applies, and it's going
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to apply at the end of the season. It's gonna
still apply at the start of next year's training cap
because I don't see anything definitive about Sam Howe coming
out of preseason games when the competition may not be
giving him a I Jim Harbaugh strikes me as someone
the new Chargers coaches, someone who's not going to play
as defensive starters all that much. Gino Smith, if he
doesn't play Saturday night, it would stand a reason he's
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going to play a lot in Tennessee. Or will they
just let the practices against the Titans next week stand
for his ones reps? But eventually he needs to get
game reps in this new offense and see what Ryan
Grubbs system plays like in a game. Now they're going
to one on ones with DK Metcalff against Trey Brown.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
DK should win this route. Oh that's Cody, You know what.
They should get rid of slants and one on ones.
That is such a cheese route. It doesn't take much.
Or if anything, are they using.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
The whole It's good for the receivers getting off the line,
and it's really good for the cornerbacks to learn leverage
and try to get inside leverage on the receiver.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
True, The one question is are they using the entire
field on that or they using you know numbers to
or I should say hash is to the numbers for
the end zone because I'm assuming they're going to the
en zone for this correct yea.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Into the end zone, and I mean they're in the slot.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, that's fair. Numbers, Okay, that's fair. I'm okay with it.
Then I don't like using the whole field and then
someone running a slant like, come on, man, there's gonna
be linebackers. It's not gonna be Manda Man every time.
But to your point, if it's hash to numbers into
the end zone, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's fair. Devin Witherspoon against Jake Bobo. I got Jake
on this one press man coverage on an outside release
and a double move inside. Bobo gets inside of Witherspoon
and makes a catchp.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
One for one, let's go, or two for two? Excuse me,
not even there.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
The eleven practice the Seahawks training camp has begun. Gino
Smith is out in full pads, participating fully, throwing, and
back to normal after missing four practices. Up next the
daily show of Metcalf against Devin Witherspoon. Two starters who
remain out today in practice for the third and eighth
consecutive times, I'll mention the defensive starters that are still
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out and all else I'm noticing here at Seahawks training camp.
At eleven o'clock you'll hear from Mike McDonald, the head
coach of the Seahawks. Coming up next on ninety three
point three KJRFM. Hi, welcome back right now the news
of being Christopher Kid from the Seahawks training camp. Eleventh practice.
(28:00):
A training camp here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center
going on right now a morning practice, Chris, I just
saw the best repid defensive back half against DK Metcalf
one on one a long time is Trey Brown.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh, Trey Brown has been money this training camp. I
know he gives up some stuff, but continue.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He's six inches shorter and about forty pounds lighter than
DK Metcalf. And they're doing a one on one drill
outside right from the five yard line, just quarterback, receiver
and defensive back from the five yard line going in
and at the snap, Trey Brown went hard right into
DK Metcalf's chest, a hard shiver, and Devin Witherspoon loved it.
(28:40):
You'd standing about ten yards away on the near sideline
and he's going yeah, yeah, and the jam at the
line threw Metcalf off of his route and it was
a It was a fade route to the back right
corner of the end zone, and by the time Gino
Smith throw arrived was already so far inside of Metcalf.
(29:02):
DK Metcalf had no chance to catch that pass and
Brown broke it up and there was official right there,
no flag, and Witherspon loved it. He's growing and loving it,
and Brown got up strutting as he should. I talked
to Brown at Saturday's screen FanFest just off It wasn't
(29:22):
with a recorder or nopad, and he was talking about
how people don't realize how much DK Metcalf improves the
cornerbacks of the Seahawks have and how much going against
him one on one each day. He said, it's actually
harder than games because of there's no receiver six four
two thirty eight who jump forty one inches and run
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ten flat one hundred yard dashes in the NFL. And
so Trey Brown just was going on and on about
DK Metcalf and how much better he makes him as
a player in training camp and he loses some of
that during the regular season. Not going against him like
that as hard as it's physically in regular season practices.
But yeah, that was that was a good rap and
(30:05):
I wish fans had seen that. I'll be writing about
that in the News Tribute tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's so annoying that other teams you can show video
of one on ones, but the Seahawks are so strict
on that because if you just go on Twitter and
search one on ones, you will see I feel as
if every other team will a lot of teams showing
off players going one on one.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, the team will and the Seahawks will show some
of that.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
And they won't show some of that, but they should.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Making a diving catch.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, I get it, I understand it, but at the
same time, it's not going to I don't think it's
going to hurt the players or what they're trying to
do for the regular season.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
But that's just me.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'm not a coach. I don't do any of that.
I get it, but it's it's annoying. I will say
that much.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
When Mike Donald was with the Ravens, the Ravens had
a staff of people who just scoured the internet looking
for clips from practices, from fans, from reporters, from from
wedding sources from the teams themselves, and they gleaned The
Ravens did a lot from those clips. They teamed personnels,
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some formation stuff, some tendencies, they they scouted that stuff.
And Mike McDonald came here and said, Ah, we're not
gonna do it. We're not going to give the Ravens
of the world the opportunity to go see what we
do during training camp. And so that's part of the
reason that that it isn't like it is. They're telling
fans they can't shoot practices and now they're going to
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eleven on eleven and for the third straight practice, Jerome
Baker is not on the field at weakside inside linebacker,
and guess who's taking his place. It's the rookie fourth
round pick Tyree Knight, who's got to run here in
the last three practices as a starting linebacker next to
to Rel Dotson, the signal caller. Interesting for him. Now
we got a fracas in a fight and flags and
(31:59):
oh it's on the defensive sideline and spooning it. I'm
sure he has something to do with it. I can't
see among the massive forty some players that are back
and forth. That was Kenneth Walker took exception to something.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
At an end of a play, probably a little extra shove, Yeah,
extra going on.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
It broke that up. But Jerome Baker has missed the
last three practices. And I don't see Draymond Jones out
there either. I walked down during the commercial break to
the defensive line drolls, and I don't see him. Now
Walker's still going at it in between plays. They have
to be separated again, and who's he going after it with?
(32:43):
Oh wow? One rolling against Walker into this offensive sideline.
And now they've taken Walker out of the scrimmage. Witherspoon
still gesturing over to the offensive sideline. We've reached that
point in camp where it's overdue for a chance for
other team, for them to start hitting another team the
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Draymond Jones is missing his eighth consecutive practice. It was
supposedly a minor hamstring issue. That's what Mike McDonald said
last weekend, not this past weekend, but a weekend before that.
And Graymont Jones missed the entire week of practices last week.
He's starting off this week not practicing either. He's been
a defensive end slash outside linebacker at times and when
he's in the outside linebacker mode. He's still been an
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edgeresher going after a quarterback, but they are moving him
around a little bit more than the team did last
year when he was a hand on the ground defensive end.
But that's two defensive starters on a defense that's not
yet fully installed, who aren't on the field for most
of the last week. Now, how far are they installed?
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He said, they're not there yet. Mike McDonald of his defense,
he said, they're getting there, and that means a lot
of things. Installation, the players knowledge of it, the players play,
and how their intensity. He said last week, I don't
want to say we have a long way to go,
but we're not there yet. As the fans applaud along
completion from Geno Smith to Jackson Smith INJIGBA. Coming up next,
(34:08):
you're gonna hear from Mike McDonald. You're gonna hear from
his assessment of Saturday's fan Fest practice, his assessment of
Sam Howe, his assessment of Byron Murphy. He loves him,
by the way. You're gonna hear what the noudated comments
about Geno Smith because he's out on the practice field today,
McDonald said Saturday, he expected him back on the field
sometime this week. That sometime is today. Seahawks coach Mike
(34:32):
McDonald coming up next after headlines on ninety three point
three KJRFM.
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