October 25, 2024 • 13 mins
Aaron Levine, Sports Director at FOX 13 joins the program to talk about the Seahawks trading for LB Ernest Jones IV, 7 weeks in with the Seahawks is this where he saw this team being, Jerry Dipoto is back but will he make the changes for the Mariners to be successful, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
The Beacon Plumbing Hotline has Aaron Levine, good friend of mine.
I'd missed him out at some of these road games,
but he joins us talk about all things Seattle sports,
including the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hello, Eron, Yeah, it's too bad there's nothing going on
in sports.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, right, exactly where up?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
To see ow's get a new middle linebacker. We've seen
him get run over in the run the last couple
of years. What do you think Ernest Jones does for
Mike McDonald's defense.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I mean, he can't do anything bad at this point, right,
I mean the last few weeks, the last few weeks,
they've given up over one hundred and fifty yards in
three consecutive weeks. And clearly it wasn't just the defensive line.
It was mostly happening on the second level. And I'm
really proud of John Schneider, and there's something they always
do is looking to improve the team. But clearly it
wasn't working out with Jeron Baker. He had a great
(00:49):
first game, but between the injuries and whatever was happening
back there, he wasn't filling gaps the right way. And
so to go out and get a guy who's hopefully
going to fill the center and then to start him
at middle linebacker, the mike line spot. He's going to
fill those gaps the right way and Drell Doddson. Dodson
can still call the defense though with the green dot
this week, even though they're moving into the outside. Really
(01:09):
looking forward to seeing what this linebacking corps can do
and this defense can do as a whole, especially coming
off the momentum of the second half against last week,
against Atlanta last week and forcing three turnovers.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
With all the newness with this new team, new roster,
new coaching staff, et cetera, et cetera. Where they sit
right now seven weeks in, was this something you expected
or do you expect a little worse regarding their record?
How they're looking.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, overall, big picture, I'm happy because you take a
look at seven weeks in, you have a winning record,
You're in first place in the NFC West. I don't
think anybody would have said, no, we won't take that
after seven weeks with a brand new coaching staff. I
think it was the way that it happened, though that
makes some people disappointed because you start off guns blazing,
you have three the three to zero record, and then
you drop that game to the Giants, which is a
(01:58):
one that really stands out because that as a clunker
and it was a part of the three game losing streak.
You're back to three and three. A lot of people thought, okay, nationally,
the Seahawks going to go the way of the New
Orleans Saints. They start really hot and then they just
kind of fade off into the sunset. Instead of doing that,
they co out and they beat Atlanta by twenty points
on the road. That was a huge statement win for
(02:18):
anybody not paying attention. All of a sudden, the Seahawks
are back in the win column. They really have a
productive game, and they finally get those takeaways, which is
something they hadn't gone all year. And so this is
another statement game to show the rest of the nation
because again this is the top game on Fox on
the weekend, Tom Brady coming it down for the first
time since the U mad Bro game against Richard Sherman
(02:41):
in twenty ten. Twenty twelve. This is a chance to
show the entire country that the Seahawks are on the
right track. And you get to two games over five
hundred and potentially increasing your lead in the NFC WES.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I got to ask you about the Mariners, Aaron, you
have been outspoken about the Mariners' ownership and what they
haven't done. Do you have faith in Jerry to Poto
running it back and actually making the changes that would matter?
I of course talking about the offense and of course
upgrading the lineup and changing hitting approaches. What do you
see happening with the Poto still being in charge.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Where do you think this goes this winter?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I don't know where it goes this winter. Again, this
goes back to the combination of what Jerry Depoto hasn't
done over the last nine years, and that's only making
the playoffs one time in the nine seasons. I think
what Minnesota's GM just got fired after making the playoffs
three out of two years he was there. So this
is a lower standard. I believe that we're holding to
Poto two. And it's sort of a pattern that we've
(03:40):
seen in Seattle with the Mariners organization in particular. You
combine that, though, with the lack of the lack of
willingness to spend money by this ownership group, and it
kind of puts to Poto in a pickle. Also, so
you have the combination of two. I tweeted it the
other day. The World Series starts tonight, Game one on Fox.
By the way, and uh, the Yankees have the number
(04:01):
two payroll in baseball. The Dodgers have the number five
payroll in baseball. I've always said spending money does not
guarantee you success, but it always gives you a better
chance of success. After this year, thirteen of the last
fifteen World Series champions will have had a top ten
pay roll. Eight of the last nine champions will have
(04:22):
had a top five, top ten payroll. This year, the
top five pay roll teams all made the playoffs. And
so when you have the Mariners stuck at number sixteen
in payroll this year as an example, if they had
been in the top ten, that means ownership would have
had to pay fifty eight million dollars more. Imagine what
this team could have done this season with fifty eight
(04:42):
million dollars more in offense with the pitching starting pitching
rotation that they had, you would have had a World
Series contender.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Or even.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Last fifty.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And listen, they could have if Taostar Hernandez wanted to
stay here and got paid what he's paying for the Dodgers.
They're getting paid for the Dodger.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We're afraid they're gonna sign him. He's afraid. Who's gonna spend.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And you keep Geno Suarez. That's thirty four million dollars
right there. You have twenty four million dollars left to spend.
If you're talking another fifty eight million dollars, this team
would have been a World Series contender bar none. So
when John Stanton comes out and says, oh, this team
is committed to winning, I don't believe him, and I
don't believe him for a second because they're not doing
(05:23):
everything they possibly can do in order to provide a
winning team for Seattle. Again, you don't have to spend
money all the time, but it does give you a
better chance of success.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's undeniable that they're doing everything they possibly can to
maximize their revenues. That's undeniable. Bobbleheads and fireworks and everything else.
But you're right, there's a difference between being committed to
revenues and being committed to winning. And you have the
revenues to spend it on winning, yet they're not doing it.
What what do they need to do? They go out
and buy bats. Who's gonna be their hitting coach? How
(05:55):
the hell are they going to get Edgar Martinez to
come back from February to October.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What are they gonna have to offer him?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, it's a good question, But then again, remember Edgar
was the hitting coach you know, back in the day,
and that didn't necessarily work out either. Fortunately, they did
see an improvement by keeping things a little bit more
simple toward the end of the season last year, and
that was certainly promising. But yeah, I don't know what
happens from the end of March until October. Is a
(06:24):
long season, and we've clearly experienced the roller coasters and
the up and downs of a baseball season with the Mariners.
It's just always come up a couple of games short.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You've been in town long enough, Aaron to understand the
nuance of this. There are seventeen, sixteen, seventeen owners of
the marriage, not just John Stanton stands the ma Gjordia
owners off the front of it. How much do you
think that contributes to the inertia in the lack of
fundamental foundational franchise change, that there are sixteen owners at
play here that they're trying to keep everybody happy.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I can't answer that question. All I know is whatever
is happening within that organization isn't working, and it hasn't
worked for at least twenty years at this point. And
so whatever is happening with that ownership group. And I
know they made that transition from Nintendo, however many years ago,
there might be too many what is this saying, too
many chefs in the kitchen, you know, too many voices.
(07:17):
How did the leak of the managerial fire get out?
You know when John stand says it wasn't in our building.
There are certain there are certain things where you just
shake your head, and it is so typical of that
organization and as unique of that organization compared to everything
else we see in the Seattle sports landscape.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, let's shift gears a minute. What do you the
sonic situation. There are some people who are getting a
little nervous that the expansion process for the NBA has
not started yet.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We talked through that a couple of days ago on
the show.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Why that is some of it is the lawsuit that
Warner Brothers Discovery has against the Meteorites deals in the
fact that they said they really did match Amazons.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
The NBA ignored it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Another fact that we didn't talk about to explore was
the fact that Samantha Halloway is in line the Kraken
owner and the daughter of.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, David Bonderman is.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
In line to be the principle of the new Sonics
ownership group. Yet David Bonderman is still tied to the
Celtics who are being sold. Where do you think all
this has to do with the expansion process? And if
you had the forecast, does it look like twenty seven
to twenty eight and a Sonics expansion team could restart,
What does it look like in the longer landscape to you?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah? I thought the original optimistic view would have been
if they you know, tied tied all the knots up
and figured everything out, that twenty twenty six would be
the optimal situation. I think it's looking a lot more
like fall of twenty twenty seven. The idea that they're
waiting for the Celtics sale is valid. I understand that
(08:53):
because that's really going to set the market value for
what a franchise is worth and what the might be
asking for in terms of an expansion price. For a
new team or two. The frustrating part is that Adam
Silver has now come out, you know, last December, and
said we were going to start sometime next year, and
then in April it's going to be when all of
the you know, the TV revenue deal was was was
(09:16):
locked up. And yeah, while there might be a lawsuit
pending there, you're looking at how much seventy some one
million dollars over the course of eleven years, the idea
that thirty ownership group or thirty two, the number of
ownership groups in the NBA, those owners would say, oh,
we don't want to split any more of the pie
(09:37):
with another two. You're getting, however, many billions of dollars
in this TV media deal. I think it's enough, and
I don't think it's a good enough excuse. And the
fact that Adam Silver came out after the Board of
Governor's meeting and said, no, we didn't really discuss expansion,
it would have really been nice for fans NBA fans
in Seattle to have been thrown a bone of some sort,
(09:58):
because then we start to get worried. Already been however,
long since two thousand and nine, since they haven't fifteen
years since we haven't had a team in Seattle. It's
long enough, it's gone on long enough, and it seems
like the never ending saga. So to that point, yes,
I'm confident that there is an ownership group ready to
bring an ex expansion franchise to Seattle to win a
(10:20):
bit ultimately, but remember the NBA has to go through
that process. The expansion committee has to be formed, that
has to go through a process probably another six months
to an entire year also, So yeah, I'm thinking twenty
twenty seven is the optimal timeline to bring the science back.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Maybe what's worth waiting for is worth waiting for it.
Maybe it'll be greater because we're waiting so long for it.
Those expansion fees are likely to be a billion plus
per team.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean the NBA ownership.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We're talking three billion, right, so six billion per they're
going to get a big check. It's offset to have
to split the pie thirty two ways. Of course, owners
don't get rich thinking that way of sharing anything. I'm
going to ask you about college sports too, are and
you're Stanford grad you're a college sport. I just went
on a segment a little bit of a soapbox here
the previous segment about not just football and basketball changes,
(11:09):
but how college sports. This landscape has changed for all sports,
non revenue sports. My daughter's a collegiate rower, my son
is a collegiate soccer player, and those spots are just
going away at some schools. Is this tenable? I mean,
do you see Stanford and col somedays saying you know what,
forget this. We're not traveling to Charlottesville, We're not staying
in the ACC, We're not playing this game outside the
big ten in the SEC. Do I see see if
(11:34):
you agree with me, I see the big ten in
the SEC splitting off and having a super league with
all the revenue and money and rules dumped to their way,
and everybody else plays by a separate set of rules,
with different rules, and they'll be halves and they'll be
have nots. And if you're not in the big ten
in the SEC, you'll have have nots. And that thing's
coming pretty damn soon. And is that watchable, tenable and
supportable if you're a booster of a school.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I already think we're in the land of have and
have nots. I mean, once then n L I began
or anil began. Which one is it? Yeah, an I
l again, Yeah, it's it's it's become, you know, a
professional industry. I mean, you have these are professional sports.
They aren't collegiate sports anymore. I mean, however you want
to define them. You have what's essentially free agency every year,
(12:20):
with the transfer window opening and athletes going from school
to school. So I do I think that is a
possibility that the Stanford's and the Caws of the world
eventually say, I quit, We're not going to do this anymore.
I think there is a definite to talk about that
this past year, and given how badly Stanford is playing
in general, and I hate to just rule focus on them,
(12:40):
but yeah, they can't compete even with what thirty eight
billion dollar endowment.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
They may not even want to compete, right, can't and
don't want that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think that's that's the point there, that you have
these some schools that are just not willing to compete
on that level because they understand the money involved and
they don't see the bigger picture. Also, that is a
very possible situation, but I don't think that it's going
to ruin completely what we're seeing. I mean, you have
(13:10):
super conferences and people are still going to watch, and
you're still going to have the major revenue TV deals.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's just going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Sad for those alumni of these particular institutions that no
longer have major Division I athletics to root for on
a regular basis because either a they're not competitive anymore
or B they're not part of the story.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Aaron, I appreciate your broad brush getting the subjects we
don't always get to cover here on the day to
day with the Seahawks focuses. It is appreciate y'all seeing
a press box probably Sunday in Luminfield.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Thanks a lot, Aaron, Yeah, look forward to that on Sunday,
and then on Monday go Sounders.
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
The Beacon Plumbing Hotline has Aaron Levine, good friend of mine.
I'd missed him out at some of these road games,
but he joins us talk about all things Seattle sports,
including the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hello, Eron, Yeah, it's too bad there's nothing going on
in sports.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, right, exactly where up?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
To see ow's get a new middle linebacker. We've seen
him get run over in the run the last couple
of years. What do you think Ernest Jones does for
Mike McDonald's defense.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I mean, he can't do anything bad at this point, right,
I mean the last few weeks, the last few weeks,
they've given up over one hundred and fifty yards in
three consecutive weeks. And clearly it wasn't just the defensive line.
It was mostly happening on the second level. And I'm
really proud of John Schneider, and there's something they always
do is looking to improve the team. But clearly it
wasn't working out with Jeron Baker. He had a great
(00:49):
first game, but between the injuries and whatever was happening
back there, he wasn't filling gaps the right way. And
so to go out and get a guy who's hopefully
going to fill the center and then to start him
at middle linebacker, the mike line spot. He's going to
fill those gaps the right way and Drell Doddson. Dodson
can still call the defense though with the green dot
this week, even though they're moving into the outside. Really
(01:09):
looking forward to seeing what this linebacking corps can do
and this defense can do as a whole, especially coming
off the momentum of the second half against last week,
against Atlanta last week and forcing three turnovers.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
With all the newness with this new team, new roster,
new coaching staff, et cetera, et cetera. Where they sit
right now seven weeks in, was this something you expected
or do you expect a little worse regarding their record?
How they're looking.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, overall, big picture, I'm happy because you take a
look at seven weeks in, you have a winning record,
You're in first place in the NFC West. I don't
think anybody would have said, no, we won't take that
after seven weeks with a brand new coaching staff. I
think it was the way that it happened, though that
makes some people disappointed because you start off guns blazing,
you have three the three to zero record, and then
you drop that game to the Giants, which is a
(01:58):
one that really stands out because that as a clunker
and it was a part of the three game losing streak.
You're back to three and three. A lot of people thought, okay, nationally,
the Seahawks going to go the way of the New
Orleans Saints. They start really hot and then they just
kind of fade off into the sunset. Instead of doing that,
they co out and they beat Atlanta by twenty points
on the road. That was a huge statement win for
(02:18):
anybody not paying attention. All of a sudden, the Seahawks
are back in the win column. They really have a
productive game, and they finally get those takeaways, which is
something they hadn't gone all year. And so this is
another statement game to show the rest of the nation
because again this is the top game on Fox on
the weekend, Tom Brady coming it down for the first
time since the U mad Bro game against Richard Sherman
(02:41):
in twenty ten. Twenty twelve. This is a chance to
show the entire country that the Seahawks are on the
right track. And you get to two games over five
hundred and potentially increasing your lead in the NFC WES.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I got to ask you about the Mariners, Aaron, you
have been outspoken about the Mariners' ownership and what they
haven't done. Do you have faith in Jerry to Poto
running it back and actually making the changes that would matter?
I of course talking about the offense and of course
upgrading the lineup and changing hitting approaches. What do you
see happening with the Poto still being in charge.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Where do you think this goes this winter?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I don't know where it goes this winter. Again, this
goes back to the combination of what Jerry Depoto hasn't
done over the last nine years, and that's only making
the playoffs one time in the nine seasons. I think
what Minnesota's GM just got fired after making the playoffs
three out of two years he was there. So this
is a lower standard. I believe that we're holding to
Poto two. And it's sort of a pattern that we've
(03:40):
seen in Seattle with the Mariners organization in particular. You
combine that, though, with the lack of the lack of
willingness to spend money by this ownership group, and it
kind of puts to Poto in a pickle. Also, so
you have the combination of two. I tweeted it the
other day. The World Series starts tonight, Game one on Fox.
By the way, and uh, the Yankees have the number
(04:01):
two payroll in baseball. The Dodgers have the number five
payroll in baseball. I've always said spending money does not
guarantee you success, but it always gives you a better
chance of success. After this year, thirteen of the last
fifteen World Series champions will have had a top ten
pay roll. Eight of the last nine champions will have
(04:22):
had a top five, top ten payroll. This year, the
top five pay roll teams all made the playoffs. And
so when you have the Mariners stuck at number sixteen
in payroll this year as an example, if they had
been in the top ten, that means ownership would have
had to pay fifty eight million dollars more. Imagine what
this team could have done this season with fifty eight
(04:42):
million dollars more in offense with the pitching starting pitching
rotation that they had, you would have had a World
Series contender.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Or even.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Last fifty.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And listen, they could have if Taostar Hernandez wanted to
stay here and got paid what he's paying for the Dodgers.
They're getting paid for the Dodger.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We're afraid they're gonna sign him. He's afraid. Who's gonna spend.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And you keep Geno Suarez. That's thirty four million dollars
right there. You have twenty four million dollars left to spend.
If you're talking another fifty eight million dollars, this team
would have been a World Series contender bar none. So
when John Stanton comes out and says, oh, this team
is committed to winning, I don't believe him, and I
don't believe him for a second because they're not doing
(05:23):
everything they possibly can do in order to provide a
winning team for Seattle. Again, you don't have to spend
money all the time, but it does give you a
better chance of success.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's undeniable that they're doing everything they possibly can to
maximize their revenues. That's undeniable. Bobbleheads and fireworks and everything else.
But you're right, there's a difference between being committed to
revenues and being committed to winning. And you have the
revenues to spend it on winning, yet they're not doing it.
What what do they need to do? They go out
and buy bats. Who's gonna be their hitting coach? How
(05:55):
the hell are they going to get Edgar Martinez to
come back from February to October.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What are they gonna have to offer him?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, it's a good question, But then again, remember Edgar
was the hitting coach you know, back in the day,
and that didn't necessarily work out either. Fortunately, they did
see an improvement by keeping things a little bit more
simple toward the end of the season last year, and
that was certainly promising. But yeah, I don't know what
happens from the end of March until October. Is a
(06:24):
long season, and we've clearly experienced the roller coasters and
the up and downs of a baseball season with the Mariners.
It's just always come up a couple of games short.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You've been in town long enough, Aaron to understand the
nuance of this. There are seventeen, sixteen, seventeen owners of
the marriage, not just John Stanton stands the ma Gjordia
owners off the front of it. How much do you
think that contributes to the inertia in the lack of
fundamental foundational franchise change, that there are sixteen owners at
play here that they're trying to keep everybody happy.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I can't answer that question. All I know is whatever
is happening within that organization isn't working, and it hasn't
worked for at least twenty years at this point. And
so whatever is happening with that ownership group. And I
know they made that transition from Nintendo, however many years ago,
there might be too many what is this saying, too
many chefs in the kitchen, you know, too many voices.
(07:17):
How did the leak of the managerial fire get out?
You know when John stand says it wasn't in our building.
There are certain there are certain things where you just
shake your head, and it is so typical of that
organization and as unique of that organization compared to everything
else we see in the Seattle sports landscape.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, let's shift gears a minute. What do you the
sonic situation. There are some people who are getting a
little nervous that the expansion process for the NBA has
not started yet.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We talked through that a couple of days ago on
the show.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Why that is some of it is the lawsuit that
Warner Brothers Discovery has against the Meteorites deals in the
fact that they said they really did match Amazons.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
The NBA ignored it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Another fact that we didn't talk about to explore was
the fact that Samantha Halloway is in line the Kraken
owner and the daughter of.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, David Bonderman is.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
In line to be the principle of the new Sonics
ownership group. Yet David Bonderman is still tied to the
Celtics who are being sold. Where do you think all
this has to do with the expansion process? And if
you had the forecast, does it look like twenty seven
to twenty eight and a Sonics expansion team could restart,
What does it look like in the longer landscape to you?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah? I thought the original optimistic view would have been
if they you know, tied tied all the knots up
and figured everything out, that twenty twenty six would be
the optimal situation. I think it's looking a lot more
like fall of twenty twenty seven. The idea that they're
waiting for the Celtics sale is valid. I understand that
(08:53):
because that's really going to set the market value for
what a franchise is worth and what the might be
asking for in terms of an expansion price. For a
new team or two. The frustrating part is that Adam
Silver has now come out, you know, last December, and
said we were going to start sometime next year, and
then in April it's going to be when all of
the you know, the TV revenue deal was was was
(09:16):
locked up. And yeah, while there might be a lawsuit
pending there, you're looking at how much seventy some one
million dollars over the course of eleven years, the idea
that thirty ownership group or thirty two, the number of
ownership groups in the NBA, those owners would say, oh,
we don't want to split any more of the pie
(09:37):
with another two. You're getting, however, many billions of dollars
in this TV media deal. I think it's enough, and
I don't think it's a good enough excuse. And the
fact that Adam Silver came out after the Board of
Governor's meeting and said, no, we didn't really discuss expansion,
it would have really been nice for fans NBA fans
in Seattle to have been thrown a bone of some sort,
(09:58):
because then we start to get worried. Already been however,
long since two thousand and nine, since they haven't fifteen
years since we haven't had a team in Seattle. It's
long enough, it's gone on long enough, and it seems
like the never ending saga. So to that point, yes,
I'm confident that there is an ownership group ready to
bring an ex expansion franchise to Seattle to win a
(10:20):
bit ultimately, but remember the NBA has to go through
that process. The expansion committee has to be formed, that
has to go through a process probably another six months
to an entire year also, So yeah, I'm thinking twenty
twenty seven is the optimal timeline to bring the science back.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Maybe what's worth waiting for is worth waiting for it.
Maybe it'll be greater because we're waiting so long for it.
Those expansion fees are likely to be a billion plus
per team.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean the NBA ownership.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We're talking three billion, right, so six billion per they're
going to get a big check. It's offset to have
to split the pie thirty two ways. Of course, owners
don't get rich thinking that way of sharing anything. I'm
going to ask you about college sports too, are and
you're Stanford grad you're a college sport. I just went
on a segment a little bit of a soapbox here
the previous segment about not just football and basketball changes,
(11:09):
but how college sports. This landscape has changed for all sports,
non revenue sports. My daughter's a collegiate rower, my son
is a collegiate soccer player, and those spots are just
going away at some schools. Is this tenable? I mean,
do you see Stanford and col somedays saying you know what,
forget this. We're not traveling to Charlottesville, We're not staying
in the ACC, We're not playing this game outside the
big ten in the SEC. Do I see see if
(11:34):
you agree with me, I see the big ten in
the SEC splitting off and having a super league with
all the revenue and money and rules dumped to their way,
and everybody else plays by a separate set of rules,
with different rules, and they'll be halves and they'll be
have nots. And if you're not in the big ten
in the SEC, you'll have have nots. And that thing's
coming pretty damn soon. And is that watchable, tenable and
supportable if you're a booster of a school.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I already think we're in the land of have and
have nots. I mean, once then n L I began
or anil began. Which one is it? Yeah, an I
l again, Yeah, it's it's it's become, you know, a
professional industry. I mean, you have these are professional sports.
They aren't collegiate sports anymore. I mean, however you want
to define them. You have what's essentially free agency every year,
(12:20):
with the transfer window opening and athletes going from school
to school. So I do I think that is a
possibility that the Stanford's and the Caws of the world
eventually say, I quit, We're not going to do this anymore.
I think there is a definite to talk about that
this past year, and given how badly Stanford is playing
in general, and I hate to just rule focus on them,
(12:40):
but yeah, they can't compete even with what thirty eight
billion dollar endowment.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
They may not even want to compete, right, can't and
don't want that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think that's that's the point there, that you have
these some schools that are just not willing to compete
on that level because they understand the money involved and
they don't see the bigger picture. Also, that is a
very possible situation, but I don't think that it's going
to ruin completely what we're seeing. I mean, you have
(13:10):
super conferences and people are still going to watch, and
you're still going to have the major revenue TV deals.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's just going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Sad for those alumni of these particular institutions that no
longer have major Division I athletics to root for on
a regular basis because either a they're not competitive anymore
or B they're not part of the story.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Aaron, I appreciate your broad brush getting the subjects we
don't always get to cover here on the day to
day with the Seahawks focuses. It is appreciate y'all seeing
a press box probably Sunday in Luminfield.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Thanks a lot, Aaron, Yeah, look forward to that on Sunday,
and then on Monday go Sounders.
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