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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't you dare touch that dow or change the channel
because it's Sunday at seven pm and you're listening to
The Hard Truth on WRKO. Good evening, everyone, I'm John
Deaton listened. There is never a slow week in the
news when you have President Donald Trump in office, and
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boy is there big news dropped in the last couple days.
We're going to get to that. We're going to have
a special guest, an independent journalist, on that I want
to highlight. I said I was going to highlight people
in the community, ordinary people trying to do extraordinary things.
We'd like to highlight those folks here at the Hard Truth.
Remember you can reach out and touch me at John
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at Hard Truthshow dot com. John at Hard Truthshow dot com.
Now bombshell potentially of news released yesterday by the Director
of National Intelligence. That would be Tossy Gabert. And basically
we know that there was a huge claim in the
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twenty sixteen election that Donald Trump has summarized as Russia
Russia Russia on whether or not the Russian government had
interfered with the election of an American president in favor
of Donald Trump. There was the Mother Report, there were
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Senate Intelligence Committee investigations, There was a Department of Justice investigation.
There was the Steele dossier. Remember that the Clinton campaign
paid this guy, Christopher Steele, who wrote this intelligence report
where they said that Russia had something on Donald Trump.
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I mean they were talking about things like prostitutes pining
on each other in hotel rooms, and that Ronald Trump
was a Russian asset. He was putin's you know what.
And so ultimately we learned that by the Senate Intelligence Committee,
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the DOJ, and the Muller Report, that Russia didn't end
up having any kind of real impact on the election,
that they were never able to engage America's election infrastructure.
The Intelligence Committee, led by Marco Rubio, did find unanimously
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that Russia attempted to interfere in any ways that they could.
But I'm going to let Tausi Gabbert explain in her
own words what she released as the director of a
national intelligence Okay, so listen to this. This is Tausy Gabbert.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Everyone now, President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper,
James Coby, and others, including their mouthpieces in the media,
knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived narrative that was
created in this January twenty seventeen Intelligence Community assessment with
high confidence as though it were fact. John Brennan, as
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CIA Director, stated in a memo to his agency staff
in December of twenty sixteen, saying, quote, there is strong
consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of
Russian interference in our presidential elected election. This was reported
by NBC News confirming that Brennan, along with James Clapper
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and James Comey, agreed with the CIA's assessment that Russia
intervened to help Trump win the presidency. As Obama's Director
of National Intelligence, James Clapper was tasked with overseeing the
creation of this assessment in January of twenty seventeen by
President Obama, and he expressed confidence in its findings. In
a twenty eighteen interview with the Harvard Gazette, he talked
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about how he provided Trump with the same classified assessment
that President Obama received, which is the high confidence judgment
that putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference. Clapper
then went on to add, I think they, the Russians,
actually influenced the outcome. This is a brief summary of
the details that you'll find within the House Majority Staff's
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report in their investigation into the Obama directed January twenty
seventeen Intelligence Community assessment that leads us to the very
same conclusion that we announced in the release of our
documents on Friday. The implications of this are far reaching
and have to do with the integrity of our democratic republic.
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It has to do with an outgoing president taking action
to manufacture intelligence to undermine and usurp the will of
the American people in that election and launch what would
be a year's long coup against the incoming president of the
United States, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Wow. Basically, the Director of National Intelligence Taulsy Gabbert, has
basically alleged that President Obama, using the CEIA director John Brennan,
the other intelligence operatives like Clapper, Comy from the FBI,
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that they all conspired to indulge, fabricate, whatever words you
want to use, exaggerate this Russian interference and that, in fact,
according to that report that Clapper basically said, Russia did
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influence the election. And the reason this is big news
is because Tauca Gabbert re declassified a memo which was
a presidential briefing brief the Presidential Daily Briefing PDBS, and
they concluded in December. It was a December ninth meeting,
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and this report, this daily briefing had concluded that Russia
did not interfere with the election, meaning that they were
not able to, you know, hack into the dominion election results,
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the voting machines, and that they weren't able to actually,
you know, hack into certain infrastructure of the United States,
and that you know, they might want to, but they
actually weren't able to pull it off. And what ends
up happening is they bury that brief and you know,
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it's called classified information, and it goes gets placed in
a vault, and Donald Trump wins the twenty sixteen election, obviously,
and because these CIA director and FBI director and Director
of National Intelligence and National Security Agent, all under Obama,
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believe that Donald Trump was a threat to democracy however
you want to do it. According to Tausi Gabbert, they
basically were trying to save democracy right by sacrificing democracy
because then they got together, according to Taulsi Gabbert, and
conspired to basically say the opposite of what was concluded
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by the intelligence community, that Russia didn't actually interfere, but
they were going to say no, that Russia did interfere
and that Russia did help President Trump. And now you
have words being thrown out there like treason, and you
have words being thrown out there like indictments are coming down.
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People want an investigation. You have people out there, you know,
like the Jesse Waters of the world, calling for the
arrest and indictment of President Obama. You know, this is
terrible news for the country, there is no doubt about it.
But basically we are at a place and I think
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it all started many ways because of this approach that
the Clintons and the Obama's and all of these other
intelligence agencies. You know, they viewed President Donald Trump as
a threat and they believed that they were going to
do whatever they could to help save America. And so
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we saw a former president and I'm talking about Donald Trump,
get prosecuted for things that other people didn't get prosecuted.
And we've seen President Trump be indicted. We've seen President
Trump be sued by attorney generals. We've seen all that.
And I want to remind people out there that you know,
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Hillary Clinton firm, her campaign, I should say, paid for
the steel dossier, which was all a lie, okay, And
the campaign that Hillary when they paid that law firm
that hired Christopher Stell for that lie, the campaign called
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it a legal expense because they paid a law firm
who paid Christopher Stell. And the election committee, that election
office decided that Hillary Clinton that that was improper and
that violated the law, and her campaign was fined one
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hundred and thirty four thousand dollars. Well, President Trump called
his nda with Stormy Daniels right. His lawyer paid Stormy
Daniels off, and then Trump reimbursed his lawyer, Michael Cohen.
So Trump's campaign then labeled it as a legal expense
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because they paid a lawyer, same thing that Hillary Clinton
did with the Steele dossier. But Trump doesn't, his campaign
doesn't get fined one hundred and thirty four thousand dollars
like Clinton's campaign. He gets indicted, he gets prosecuted for
the same thing. And when we think about it, and
you all know that I wasn't a big Trump guy,
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A lot of you don't like me for that, but
you know, I'm going to call things the way I
see it. What Hillary Clinton did was worse because it
was saying that a Russian foreign government was using a
presidential candidate as an asset. That's treasonous and it was
not true. And they called it a legal expense. Well,
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Donald Trump simply did the same thing over an agreement
with someone he had an affair with, right and a
personal agreement like Okay, I don't want my wife to
find out, I don't want this. I paid my lawy.
I'll call it a legal expense. And instead he gets
a criminal conviction. And now we're going to see if
his administration is going to do to Obama and Clapper
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and Komi and Brennan what the Biden administration did the Trump.
We're going to see if the DOJ listen. It's terrible news.
We have so many things in this country. We have
to deal with important things. I'll touch about this on
next week's show. We'll figure out what's going on. But
when we come back from the break, I'm going to
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bring on an independent journalist. We got a lot to
talk about. Don't touch that dial, change the channel. Know
it is Sunday at seven PM, and you are locked
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everyone Sunday as Usual, it's been a busy week. With
President Trump as the president, there is never a slow
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day in the news. But we're going to start the show,
and remember you can reach me at John at Hard
Truthshow dot com. That's John at Hartruthshow dot com. I
said I was going to bring on regular citizens who
I believe are ordinary citizens doing extraordinary things. I have
a very special guest, that's Jess Machado. I'm gonna let
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her introduce herself, but Jess, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Hey John, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
All right, So why don't you tell us a little
bit what you're doing right now, who you are, where
you live, give us a little background information, and tell
us what you're up to today.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Coore. My name is Justicamashato. I'm an independent journalist based
down in Bristol County, Fall River, New Bedford area. I've
been completely independent, working on my own since January of
this year. But I have a background working for another
local media outlet as well as a radio background, and
primarily what I do is investigative journalism, So I am
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looking at things that mainstream media does not look at
and then digging around, asking questions and then sharing that
with my audience. I covered the Karen Reid trial one
and two, which allowed me to build a really great base,
and post trial, those people stayed, they stuck around. They
were really happy to have people that aren't connected to
mainstream media, legacy media outlets that are funded from god
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knows where, and so I'm completely independent.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I work on my own by myself.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I love a good foyer request, so public records requests.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Are my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Get that information and then make it easily digestible for
readers and listeners, and then share it with everybody. I've
covered extensively the migrant crisis here in Massachusetts for the
past two years, and I've broken several stories regarding that
a location next to me in the Tawton area, at
the Clarion Hotel, which is finally closed, but I uncovered
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a bunch of different stories out of there, as well
as dissecting all of the incident reports that came out
of the Healy hotels across the state and kind of
breaking those down and sharing with regular tax paying citizens
how their tax dollars were being spent. So it's very
rewarding work. I love doing it. It doesn't feel like work,
and as a conservative in Massachusetts. I feel like it's
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my responsibility to share that information with regular voters who
I think really would like to vote or lean to
the right, but they don't have access to the truth
and information. And I've found, especially in areas like Bristol
County where I'm working, when voters hear both sides of
the story, they vote responsibly. And that is why Fall River,
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for the first time in the history of Fall River,
they voted for a Republican president in the majority, and
we've been able to flip some really long term seats
held by Democrats down here because we give people the
truth and they're smart. Voters are smart, so they figure
it out on their own. But we've got to kind
of have more of me and other people like me
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around the state to get that information out to voters.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
All right, there's a lot to unpack. You're in Where
do you live?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm in Somerset, Massachusetts, down in Bristone, all.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Right, and so you're based out of Bristol County. Yes, now,
right now, I want to make sure we do this
a couple of times, but I want you to let
people know how they can reach out to you contact you. Also,
you know, I want people to understand and we're going
to unpack it. But you know, just is an independent journalist,
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investigative journalists covering stories that mainstream media do not cover.
And we're going to talk about that in a minute.
But the only way she's able to do that, you know,
she's got bills right, and we want her the truth.
How can they reach you? How can they donate to
to make sure that we have people like you out
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there digging the truth for us.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
That is an important part of this.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
When I told my family I was going to kind
of go out on my own, I was like, we're
going to be poor for a little while, so like
hang in there.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So my supporters can help in a couple of ways.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
The first is on my x account, so Jess Mashado Show,
and that is my platform everywhere, whether it's on YouTube, x, substack, Instagram,
it's Jess Mahado Show. You can donate right there in
my profile. There's a little money symbol. You can make
a cash donation through Venmo. Otherwise you can subscribe to
my substack. There's a monthly, yearly or like a legacy
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donation option where you can support my writing right on there.
And then advertisers who are interested in advertising with my
show once we get started next next month, they can
reach out to me through those platforms and they can
advertise with me. I always, I know it's crazy. I
put my phone on or out there for people who
want to share stories, tips, or contribute or help out.
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It's posted on my x account and you can find
it on there. It's pinned at the top. But I
let you know, ease of access and communication so people
can reach me through those platforms.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay, And just so you know for the listeners, that's
Jess Machado. So was j E ss M A C
H A d O show Jess Mishadle Show on x YouTube.
Please subscribe? Now? Why don't you did you ever work
in mainstream media at any point? Jess?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
So, I got hired by a AM radio station out
of New Bedford called WBSM, and they are the AM
version of a mainstream media town let's see town Square
Media company. Anybody down here would know it's fun. One
oh seven is their FM version. And I got hired
by that station to do an AM Saturday show for
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three hours to talk politics. And I did it for
about a year and a half. Three hours every Saturday.
The first hour I would talk local politics and news,
the second hour would be state, and then the third
would be national, and I grew a really great following people.
First of all, there's no women conservatives out there other
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than I would say Grace Curley that has her show
with the Howie Carr Network. But there's no women out
there that are talking, especially conservative women in Massachusetts. But
I knew that there were people around me that wanted that,
and so I started there. So not quite mainstream, it
was an AM station and I did that for about
a year and a half and then I started writing
for a very small local media outlet called Full River Reporter.
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It's a veteran owned small media outlet down here in
Fall River and New Bedford. And it was only for
one year, but that's when I really started doing these
investigative pieces. I was a freelance writer, but I didn't
do it for work until I started working for them,
and I just started, you know, digging into stories, things
that were I'm most curious about. Naturally, the migrant crisis
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certainly was getting me aggravated and I needed to know more,
and so I was empowered to write about that. So
that's really it. Nothing really mainstream media. I you know,
I say all the time, if someone from mainstream media
called me today and offered me a job, I would
turn it down. I'm not selling my soul out to
those people, and they have no they have no control
over what they say or do you know. I worked
with a lot of those people on the Karen retrial.
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Great people, really nice, very professional, but they are owned
and their opinion and and the truth sometimes doesn't always
make it out to you know, the main group of
people that subscribe to mainstream media outlets, so never really
worked in it, and I don't envision myself doing it
in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What's your explanation for why we don't see more stories
in mainstream media, whether it's the Boston Globe or whether
it's you know, local television. You know, for example, I'll
give one issue that I don't understand why there isn't
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a significant amount of attention on the failure of the
fact that the state legislature is violating the law and
not cooperating with an audit that seventy two percent of
the voters demanded be the law. I don't see enough
coverage on that. I certainly did not see enough coverage
from mainstream media on what was happening inside these Healy hotels. Sure,
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you know there was a high a bust where they said, yeah,
there was a guy that had you know, fentnoh and
a gun and he was running drugs, and they report
something like that. But you know, you didn't hear about
the six hundred and sixty serious incidents. You know, you
didn't hear that about unless it was from people like you. You
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didn't hear about the seven hundred percent increase in police
cause in Fall River, you know, all because of these shelters.
What you know, I would value your opinion because you're
in news and I'm not so much. Why do you
think they just turn a blind eye to it, Because
I don't think there's any other way to say it
other than turning a blind eye to it.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Well, I have no doubt that politicians and you know,
people with money control the media here. And that's a fact.
I don't know how else to say that. There are
political power players in the state of Massachusetts that have
a direct line to the Boston Herald and the Boston Globe.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
That's fact. I don't know else to say that.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
The other thing too, is these news organizations are slowly
crumbling as mainstream media recognizes that people don't believe them
and they've lost trust in them. And so you see
all the time The Herald News, for example, which has
been a staple news company down here, closed its doors.
It consolidated with other newspapers in the area. They fired
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all their staff. They're not getting the advertising, they don't
have the money, and they can't afford to pay people
to do what I do. And even if they could,
they wouldn't because they're controlled by politicians and you know,
people from not even in this state, to be quite
honest with you, that are controlling what you and I
read in those in those publications. So that's the first thing.
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I mean, Listen, they can't afford the work that I do.
And also I think they're scared. The truth makes people uncomfortable.
It really does you know the truth of the Healy
Hotels and what was happening with those incident reports, for example, John,
it's really difficult things to read, and I spent three
and a half days reading every incident report that the
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Master Goop had requested. I poured over each one. I
read in detail. Although highly redacted. You can't unring that
bell when you see the things that were happening in there.
And I'm just going to tell you reading about that
in a regular news publication or on your six PM
news is never going to happen because the reality of
it is, it's disgusting, it's difficult to hear, and people
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don't want to hear that kind of stuff. The news
doesn't want to give it to them. I find people
do want to hear it. They need to know what's
going on, and if they don't, we have to make
sure they see it anyway so that when they get
to the voting booth they remember these stories and they're like, okay,
we have to make that attachment for them, you know,
like this doesn't just happen. It's your elected officials and
your leaders in the state, and that's how your money's
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being spent and what it's being spent on. And so
I don't know, I feel it's a very important job,
but yeah, mainstream media is not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm telling you, well, you know, you just when you
were saying that they're told what to do. I have
this vision. I'm sure you've seen it where all the
news stations, local stations all across the country. We're reading
the same script on a daily basis. Okay, we're gonna
cut for a break. When we come back, we're going
to dig into some of the stories. I also know
that Jess received an award. We're going to talk about that.
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Come back. You're listening to The Hard Truth on WRKO.
I'm John Deaton with Jess Mushadow. You can reach you
at Jess Shadows Show. Come right back. All right, welcome
back to the Hard Truth. Is John Deet and you're
listening to me interview Jess my Shadow, a independent journalist
working out of Bristol County. And Jess, I understand I
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was present on a night that you received an award,
So I know you're modest, but why don't you tell
us what that warded?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I received a Journalist of the Year Female Journalists of
the Year at a Lincoln Reagan dinner, and first award
I've ever received, to be honest with you, but it
definitely felt great to be acknowledged by you know, first
of all people in my party, but you know, for
the work that I'm doing, it's I would like to
say it's a thankless job. It's not, it's every day
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is rewarding, but it certainly felt great for people to say, hey,
we see you, we really like what you do, we
appreciate the work you're doing, and it's making a difference.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So yeah, I was very excited to receive.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, congratulations, it's well deserved. You know, we're talking about
the the serious incidents reports in the Healy's hotels, and
you know, mainstream media doesn't want to put you know,
this show is called The Hard Truth. Those reports that
you were looking over talked about things like child rape.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Didn't they They did, you know, child rape, a very
serious pattern of domestic violence, child neglect, suicide, suicide of
adults and children, you know, guns, drugs, very unclean conditions,
and there were a lot of them, thousands of reports,
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and so yeah, I mean that's the reality of the
inside of those hotels. I didn't necessarily need those reports
to see that. I've been inside one of the hotels.
I've seen things, you know, by being present, and I've
also had tipsters on the inside for well over a
year that were sending me photos and things, and the
conditions were disgusting, not even temporarily, but for years. You know,
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these people were living in really unkempt conditions with growth bugs, rats, mice.
But then on top of that, you know, the incident
reports themselves detail unfortunately, really uncomfortable human behaviors that have
been brought in across the border and funded by your
tax dollars. And that's the thing that always kind of
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hung in the back of my mind every report I read,
every piece of that report, from the housing to the police,
to the schooling, the transportation, all of it was is
funded by you.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And well, people understand is that you know these hotels,
you're talking about obviously the rent of a hotel and
I've seen the cheapest I saw was, you know, one
eighty one sixty and some hotels, but you're talking about
five thousand dollars a month for a hotel room in
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a lot of these cases where they're catered. Mills brought
to these folks as well.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yes, So you know, a basic operation is you've got
a family, let's just say a family of four. They're
in a hotel and taught. They are getting three meals
a day brought in from outside locations breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
They're also getting food stamps so they're getting a food
benefit that they can use to get food inside their
actual rooms and that they can use. They're getting cash benefits.
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They're getting transportation to and from wherever they want to go.
John So if a parent, for example, wants to go
to a parent teacher conference at their child's school, they
just go downstairs to the desk and say I need transportation,
and they get transportation to go to the school, to
go to the mall, to go to a doctor's office.
The tat in hotel did not have laundry facilities there,
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so they have a company that would come and pick
up their laundry once a week and then do a wash,
dry and fold and it would be folded neatly and
dropped right in front of their hotel room door once
a week. On top of that, you've got health insurance,
You've got legal defense funds you know that are funding
any type of legal def public defenders for the people
that are getting charged and charged with crimes. Health insurance, phones, schooling,
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I mean, you name it, they're getting it. A recent
report just came out and said that the average cost
for a family right now is around thirty eight hundred
dollars a week. I mean, what Massachusetts tax paying family
could not benefit from that kind of money And how
life changing would it be for some people to have
those kinds of funds for a month, a year, two years,
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I mean, And it's perpetuating. I've said this so many times.
I started talking about this weeks ago, well months ago. Really,
just because the hotels are closing doesn't mean that the
funds stop. It's just relocation of these same people to
another place and the money is different. So now they're paying,
you know, for rent in private homes or you know,
private buildings through the home base program, and perpetuating the
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hemorrhaging of taxpayer dollars that way.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And I got I got two theories on that. You
can tell me if i'm you know, you think I'm
whack a doodle or not. But one is she's shutting
down the Healey hotels and moving them a maybe to
help hide them from deportations number one. Number two, she's
got an election. You know, it's election season. We know
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that I've had Brian short Sleeve on my show. I've
had Mike Neely on my show. I believe Mike mcnogue
is going to get in the race soon. I'll invite
Mike on the show. All friends of mine, they're all
going to get equal opportunity. But I'm not sure if
there wasn't an election that she had coming up, that
she would even move them out of the Heeley hotels.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I think your theories can both exist at the same time.
I do think that you know, moving them and getting
them out of there is to hide them. We have
no idea where they are, so only through tips and
through people that have kind of been in these places,
am I able to kind of pinpoint some locations of
where they are.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But we don't know. That's a dangerous thing.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
By the way, So these women who were facing domestic
abuse in these hotels, they had a hotel desk they
could run to downstairs and say, hey, he's hitting me,
or he's doing something to my child, or he stole
my debit card. There's nobody saving you in a private
residence at this point, and there's nobody documenting it. So
these reports, again, the circumstances don't stop, it's just that
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the parameters of it are now gone. So yes, moving
them and hiding them from possible deportation or any type
of ease of access, and also to the optics of
closing these hotels. It drives me nuts when we see
mainstream media say, oh, the hotels all closed by their
final date. It was simply just relocating these individuals. You know,
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you had twenty two twenty three thousand people come into
Massachusetts through the Biden border, you know, infiltration. They they
didn't disappear, and we didn't deport them. They're still here
with the same problems, and we don't hear a lot
about them transitioning to financial independence. We don't hear about
them being self sufficient working. We don't hear any of
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those things. All we're hearing right now is we've moved
them out of the hotels and they've closed, but those
same services and the same funding is still happening just
somewhere where.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
We don't know now.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Now do we know how I read It could have
been something that you wrote, to be honest with Jess,
but I read that in Taunton one car service had
a it was either a six or eight million dollar
contract related. Do we know how these contracts get rewarded,
whether there's multiple bids. Listen, I'm an outsider the politics.
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I ran, Yes, I may run again. We'll see but
I have no trust for these politicians. I mean, I've
already know that Heally rewarded her friend from Blue Hub
and allowed a law where people can't sue this predatory
lender again people in disadvantage and underserved communities. She's already
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done that kind of favor for her donors. So you know,
I believe are these no bid contracts that are just
being handed out or is there any transparency about this process?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
So I'd like to revisit the Blue Hub thing in
a minute, because I broke that story.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Between c That's where I learned it Erry.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
But in regards to these no bid contracts, one of
the things that I should mention is the Massachusetts is
in a state of emergency. That declaration was made by
Governor Heally back in twenty twenty three, and just so
that you know and your listeners now, under no other
circumstances other than a weather related event such as a hurricane,
a flood, or a snowstorm, and that gas explosion that
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we had many years ago, there has never been a
state of emergency in Massachusetts for something like this. So
that declaration and that blanket statement of state of emergency
does give her a certain level of freedom where she
doesn't have to put out bid contracts. She can spend
in ways that you normally wouldn't spend. So I have
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been asking that question, when are we going to see
that state of emergency end? Does it really feel like
an emergency today as it did in twenty twenty three?
Did it even really meet that threshold? She said yes,
But I think it was obvious that she knew that
that was going to give her some sort of blanket
protection to make all of these swift decisions under the
air of secrecy and non transparency, because again, emergency needs.
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Think about this, if you have a fire or something, Hey,
we need to spend money right away. We've got to
help these people. We've got to get them in housing
right away. Boom boom boom. Let's make fast decisions. It's
not meant to last years. I think we've only seen, honestly,
I think the most a week of a state of emergency.
We've never seen one in Massachusetts that's lasted years. So
she's given herself that protection. She just recently extended it
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to November of this year. So she's asking for more
time to have this power, and she's going to use it.
She's very good at it. And as far as transparency,
I put in public records requests to the Office of
Housing and Livable Communities, which is the one part of
our government where we're supposed to be able to get
all information relating to the Heey hotels, and it is
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so hard John to get information from them. If you
you know, I'll ask a question, I'll say, hey, I'm
interested in learning about the transportation costs. We don't know
what you're talking about. You've got to be more specific.
But then they get like another twenty five days to respond.
So it goes back and back and back.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Sometimes it's not very clear. Sometimes the numbers don't add up.
It's hard to get that information. I know that some
people have been doing a good job of kind of
trying to extract that information from the state. I know
that the short Sleeve campaign just put in some public
records requests. I love to see people do this. I
want more of it, but it is very difficult. If
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I could ask for anything to be changed in the
state right now that I think that could really make
change for everybody. It's the ease of access to information,
how your tax dollars are being spent. The public records
request system is archaic, it's lengthy, and it's not transparent.
And we should be able to have right at our
fingertips how our tax dollars are being spent all the time.
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We shouldn't have to ask for it. We shouldn't have
to dig for it. It should be available for you
and me right on our laptops.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Absolutely. Now we're going to take a break. In a minute,
we're going to talk about the Blue Hub. I want
to talk about that, that story that you broke in
thirty seconds. You know you followed Karen Reid one, Karen
read true two. So I'm going to ask you, did
the jury get it right?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
One hundred percent? Definitely got it right?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Got ondred percent?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Different case this time around. They did a great job, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And for the I predicted, I didn't predict that she
would be guilty of a dui or anything like that,
but I obviously it's a former federal prosecutor predicted that
not guilty.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Verdict was I think they got it right.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That made sense. So when we come back, we'll finish
up with Jess Machadow. You listen to the Hard Truths
with John d All right, everybody, welcome back to the show.
You're listening to The Hard Truth on WRKO. I'm John Deaton.
You can reach the show at John at Hardtruthshow dot com.
John at Hardtruthshow dot com. We are talking to Jess
my shadow of the Jessmshadle Show. You can go to
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Jessmshadle Show on YouTube. On x you can donate to
this independent journalist who is doing the investigative work that
the mainstream media refuses to do in the seek of
transparency and truth. Now, I gotta tell you, your Blue
Hub story is something that hits home with me. You
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know a little bit about my background, you know, extreme poverty.
You know, I grew up in welfare and food stamps.
My first year of law school, I lived in Roxbury.
And there was this why don't you tell us in
your own words what Blue Hub was doing and what
you ended up doing a great job of breaking.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Thank you. So this actually started last November.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Governor Heally was at a press conference and she was
talking about I believe, like an economic development package that
she had put together for four billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
And it was just a regular presser.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
And State House media reported that some guy showed up
and started yelling at her about this mortgage situation. And
I remember reading that and I was with my boss
at the time. We were at Starbucks, and we were like,
what is he complaining about? I don't know anything about this,
So we looked into it and that night started digging.
So Blue Hub Capital is a nonprofit company here in Massachusetts.
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The CEO of that company is a Lease Cherry. She
is a longtime Mori Heelly supporter. She financially supports her.
She has held many fundraisers for her, and in news
interviews both of them have spoken very highly and affectionately
about each other. They have a long standing friendship. This
goes back to when Morihelly was the Attorney General and
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so Blue Hub Capital has many different compartments of what
they do, but this particular piece was a mortgage company
that would tell people who were low income that were
facing foreclosure that they could help them. And essentially what
they would do is they would let's just say, John,
you have a house for three hundred thousand dollars and
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you lost your job and you're falling behind, and Bank
of America is your a lender, and they're ready to
foreclose on you. You get a cold call or a letter
in the mail or an email, or maybe you're down
at food stamps and you're trying to get on public
assistance and they offer you this company called blue Hub Capital.
They're going to help you. So you meet with blue
Hub Capital, and what they do is they're going to
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buy your home from you and take over that mortgage
from Bank of America, and then they're going to sell
it back to you right on the same day.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
And that's what they would do.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
So John, you go to this meeting and they buy
your house from you for three hundred thousand dollars, they
pay off Bank of America, you're no longer in foreclosure.
They're going to sell it back to you on that
same day. These transactions occurred on the same day. You
don't have money for closing costs. If you did, you
could be paying your mortgage right So you don't have
the money for these fees or anything. Don't worry. Blue
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Hub Capital is going to just add that into the
new loan. So now you've got a loan for three
hundred and forty thousand dollars with blue Hub Capital. The
interest rate is a little bit higher, but hey, they
saved you right, No big deal. Now fast forward five
years from now, John, You've got a job, you're back
on your feet. That mortgage rate is a little too high.
It's time for you to refinance. So you go to
your local bank in town and you say, I'm ready
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to refinance. They get you all the way down and
they pull the title and they realize that there is
a second mortgage on that property and you don't know
anything about that. They pulled the docs and they realized
that on that day you signed two mortgages. One was
for the mortgage that you've been paying all this time,
but the second is for an appreciation mortgage, which means
that if you're home now today John, is worth five
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hundred thousand dollars, it's gone up two hundred thousand dollars
in the past five years. You have to pay blue
Hub Capital for twenty percent of that appreciation value in
a balloon payment if you want to do anything. So now, John,
you're going to pay eighty thousand dollars to Blue Hub
Capital on that day of that closing. You don't have
that money. And if you do take it out in equity,
for example, now your mortgage payment is going to be
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much higher than what it was supposed.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Than it was before, which defeats the purpose of refinance
and it to begin.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Right, So now you're stuck.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Now you're stuck with it and you can't refinance, and
you go, Okay, First of all, I didn't know anything
about this. Second of all, now I'm stuck. You don't refinance,
So now forever you're stuck paying that let's say seven
point five percent interest rate. Fast forward. Now the loan
thirty years, you're getting twenty five years. It's time for
you to consolidate, make changes in whatever. Now the property
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is worth way more, Blue Hub still gets forty percent
of that appreciation value, robbing your family of an opportunity
to start generational wealth or giving you an opportunity to
use your money to go in, retire or do whatever.
They are being accused of predatory lending practices, and many
of the people who had these extra mortgages have now
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joined together in a lawsuit to sue them. As this
lawsuit has moved forward, nobody has talked about it. But
during that press conference, one of those homeowners started screaming
at Maraheely because in that bill that she was putting
together and signing into law that day was a provision
for companies just like Blue Hub Capital to say that
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they could not face legal action. And the parameters of
that bill and that piece in there actually only fit
one company in the state of Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Plase, I wonder what company it is. Mora Heey's good friend,
her donor her lifelong friend. Oh my god, my blood
is boiling for so many reasons. One, I happen to
be a class action lawyer. I fought for consumers all
my life. I've fought asbestos companies on behalf of asbestos victims,
Melsalthelioma victims, have been fighting corporate greed for thirty years.
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And what drives me insane are these far left liberal politicians,
whether it's Elizabeth Warren or whether it's Mori Heally, who
get up there and they pretend to be for consumers.
They pretend to be for individual working people. They pretend
to care about the poor people, the underserved communities in Roxbury, Mattapan, Brockton, Springfield,
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and the list goes on. And a predatory lender like
this is committing fraud because all that fine print, they
know that those people don't understand what they're signing. They
don't understand that they're selling their soul. They're giving up
forty percent of price appreciation of a period of thirty years. So,
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as Jess said to everybody out there, you know, the
American dream in this country has been defined by owning
your home, and people that's their number one asset and
they work all their life. And if that home has
appreciated to a million dollars in the Greater Boston area
like average homes, now you're gonna get forty percent to
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this predatory lender. And Maura Healy gives her a free
get out of jail card. It is disgusting. It is
corruption at its core. And what else do you got
to say. I'm sorry, I excuse the rant, but I
just I just it drives me insane.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
But go ahead, Jess, Well there, I mean, there is
some good news.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
So actually, two days after that bill has passed and
this provision is put into place to protect blue Hub,
the attorneys for Blue Hub Capital filed a motion to
dismiss these lawsuits against them, and our Attorney General, Andrea
Campbell actually filed an amicus brief on this basically saying, hey, listen,
this may be a new law, but it can't apply
to existing lawsuits, so we think that they were clear there.
(43:48):
The news around blue Hub today and yesterday is that
Andrea Campbell has drafted some sort of new provisions that
would require companies like blue Hub to be more forthcoming
with this kind of information. And but let's be honest,
if you're doing the digging that I'm doing. Blue Hub
Capital hasn't issued any mortgages in Massachusetts for the past
year and a half. They've actually moved on to other
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states where they're doing this across the country. They've tapped
out in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
We're on to them.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
We know what's happening, and nobody is using their services anymore.
The other thing too, John, just so you know, John Featherston,
who was a manager at one of the Heey hotels,
I reached out to him and asked if he was
familiar with this company, and he said one of their subsidiaries,
which is a company that actually helps fund loans to
migrants who are trying to become residents here, was soliciting
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migrants at the hotels. And this is a subsidiarya of
Bluehub Capital. So they've got their hands in everything in
this state. They're preying on the most vulnerable people, and
I love to see that. A democrat, I believe, from Brockton,
where many of these Blue Hub customers were living and
these situations where their houses were occurring, is kind of
getting involved and supporting this new legislation that's going to
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try to help make this more transparent. But in my opinion, John,
it's too little, too late. The damage has already been done.
And by the way, the majority of these people who
lost their homes, their minorities, their black homeowners, and again
sometimes first time homeowners, and you know generations and Blue
Hub capital owns them. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, listen, how come now, why aren't we seeing I
guess you already answered it, but I have to say it.
I think the Boston Globe should have a picture of
Mori Healy with the word corruption in capital letters, with
her and her friend the CEO. But I haven't seen
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anything really on the mainstream. I just don't understand why
that is blatant corruption where you have a politician giving
a friend a free past that says, you know what,
I'm going to just make it unlawful for consumers to
sue you for fraud and misrepresentation. It is in and
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it should boil your blood. And these are the stories
that voters need to hear. And I sure hope that
whether it's Kanneelie or short Sleeve and we Know or
whoever you know, that they talk to you and this
is this is something that should be a centerpiece, I
believe when they're on the debate stage with her more
healing and bringing.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I mean, if these candidates can't bring it out to
the forefront, I'm not sure anybody else will. It's definitely
something I think that can turn a voter in one
direction next year. But again, you just said it. They
have to get that information first. So that's why every
day I wake up John, I'm like, we got to
get out here. We got to keep pushing because you
never know who I mean, I could wake up like
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today and get a call from you and say, hey,
come on my show, let's talk a little bit about this.
Now your audience heard that story, and then maybe someone
else will see it and I'll call in and you know,
call into another show. We've got to get that these facts.
You know, I'm not fabricating this. None of this is untrue.
These are all facts that exist it's just getting that
in information, making it easy to understand and break it down,
(47:02):
just the way you said more heally took care of
her friend. She took care of her bestie to protect
her so she can go and make more money. Alish Cherry,
as the CEO of Blue Hub, makes like one point
five million dollars a year. It's a nonprofit, but she's
profiting for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
One hundred percent. We got forty seconds left. Anything you're
working on now that you want to share, or any
thoughts on politics as we move forward. Anything.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I'm very excited for this gubernatorial election cycle. We've got
some fantastic candidates that have stepped up.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Do you see momentum building for.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Oh yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
People are thirsty for change.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
We've got to get this message out to other pockets
across the state and change voters' minds.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Absolutely. You can reach Jess at Jess Mashadow Show. That's
Jess m a h a d O Show. Donate please
if you can. Every little bit helps. We need people
like her out there pounding the pavement for transparency and truth.
Thank you so much. I'll be seeing you soon.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Okay, Thanks John very much.
Don't you dare touch that dow or change the channel
because it's Sunday at seven pm and you're listening to
The Hard Truth on WRKO. Good evening, everyone, I'm John
Deaton listened. There is never a slow week in the
news when you have President Donald Trump in office, and
(00:20):
boy is there big news dropped in the last couple days.
We're going to get to that. We're going to have
a special guest, an independent journalist, on that I want
to highlight. I said I was going to highlight people
in the community, ordinary people trying to do extraordinary things.
We'd like to highlight those folks here at the Hard Truth.
Remember you can reach out and touch me at John
(00:44):
at Hard Truthshow dot com. John at Hard Truthshow dot com.
Now bombshell potentially of news released yesterday by the Director
of National Intelligence. That would be Tossy Gabert. And basically
we know that there was a huge claim in the
(01:07):
twenty sixteen election that Donald Trump has summarized as Russia
Russia Russia on whether or not the Russian government had
interfered with the election of an American president in favor
of Donald Trump. There was the Mother Report, there were
(01:29):
Senate Intelligence Committee investigations, There was a Department of Justice investigation.
There was the Steele dossier. Remember that the Clinton campaign
paid this guy, Christopher Steele, who wrote this intelligence report
where they said that Russia had something on Donald Trump.
(01:52):
I mean they were talking about things like prostitutes pining
on each other in hotel rooms, and that Ronald Trump
was a Russian asset. He was putin's you know what.
And so ultimately we learned that by the Senate Intelligence Committee,
(02:13):
the DOJ, and the Muller Report, that Russia didn't end
up having any kind of real impact on the election,
that they were never able to engage America's election infrastructure.
The Intelligence Committee, led by Marco Rubio, did find unanimously
(02:36):
that Russia attempted to interfere in any ways that they could.
But I'm going to let Tausi Gabbert explain in her
own words what she released as the director of a
national intelligence Okay, so listen to this. This is Tausy Gabbert.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Everyone now, President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper,
James Coby, and others, including their mouthpieces in the media,
knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived narrative that was
created in this January twenty seventeen Intelligence Community assessment with
high confidence as though it were fact. John Brennan, as
(03:17):
CIA Director, stated in a memo to his agency staff
in December of twenty sixteen, saying, quote, there is strong
consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of
Russian interference in our presidential elected election. This was reported
by NBC News confirming that Brennan, along with James Clapper
(03:37):
and James Comey, agreed with the CIA's assessment that Russia
intervened to help Trump win the presidency. As Obama's Director
of National Intelligence, James Clapper was tasked with overseeing the
creation of this assessment in January of twenty seventeen by
President Obama, and he expressed confidence in its findings. In
a twenty eighteen interview with the Harvard Gazette, he talked
(04:00):
about how he provided Trump with the same classified assessment
that President Obama received, which is the high confidence judgment
that putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference. Clapper
then went on to add, I think they, the Russians,
actually influenced the outcome. This is a brief summary of
the details that you'll find within the House Majority Staff's
(04:24):
report in their investigation into the Obama directed January twenty
seventeen Intelligence Community assessment that leads us to the very
same conclusion that we announced in the release of our
documents on Friday. The implications of this are far reaching
and have to do with the integrity of our democratic republic.
(04:45):
It has to do with an outgoing president taking action
to manufacture intelligence to undermine and usurp the will of
the American people in that election and launch what would
be a year's long coup against the incoming president of the
United States, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Wow. Basically, the Director of National Intelligence Taulsy Gabbert, has
basically alleged that President Obama, using the CEIA director John Brennan,
the other intelligence operatives like Clapper, Comy from the FBI,
(05:25):
that they all conspired to indulge, fabricate, whatever words you
want to use, exaggerate this Russian interference and that, in fact,
according to that report that Clapper basically said, Russia did
(05:47):
influence the election. And the reason this is big news
is because Tauca Gabbert re declassified a memo which was
a presidential briefing brief the Presidential Daily Briefing PDBS, and
they concluded in December. It was a December ninth meeting,
(06:12):
and this report, this daily briefing had concluded that Russia
did not interfere with the election, meaning that they were
not able to, you know, hack into the dominion election results,
(06:33):
the voting machines, and that they weren't able to actually,
you know, hack into certain infrastructure of the United States,
and that you know, they might want to, but they
actually weren't able to pull it off. And what ends
up happening is they bury that brief and you know,
(06:57):
it's called classified information, and it goes gets placed in
a vault, and Donald Trump wins the twenty sixteen election, obviously,
and because these CIA director and FBI director and Director
of National Intelligence and National Security Agent, all under Obama,
(07:19):
believe that Donald Trump was a threat to democracy however
you want to do it. According to Tausi Gabbert, they
basically were trying to save democracy right by sacrificing democracy
because then they got together, according to Taulsi Gabbert, and
conspired to basically say the opposite of what was concluded
(07:44):
by the intelligence community, that Russia didn't actually interfere, but
they were going to say no, that Russia did interfere
and that Russia did help President Trump. And now you
have words being thrown out there like treason, and you
have words being thrown out there like indictments are coming down.
(08:05):
People want an investigation. You have people out there, you know,
like the Jesse Waters of the world, calling for the
arrest and indictment of President Obama. You know, this is
terrible news for the country, there is no doubt about it.
But basically we are at a place and I think
(08:30):
it all started many ways because of this approach that
the Clintons and the Obama's and all of these other
intelligence agencies. You know, they viewed President Donald Trump as
a threat and they believed that they were going to
do whatever they could to help save America. And so
(08:54):
we saw a former president and I'm talking about Donald Trump,
get prosecuted for things that other people didn't get prosecuted.
And we've seen President Trump be indicted. We've seen President
Trump be sued by attorney generals. We've seen all that.
And I want to remind people out there that you know,
(09:16):
Hillary Clinton firm, her campaign, I should say, paid for
the steel dossier, which was all a lie, okay, And
the campaign that Hillary when they paid that law firm
that hired Christopher Stell for that lie, the campaign called
(09:37):
it a legal expense because they paid a law firm
who paid Christopher Stell. And the election committee, that election
office decided that Hillary Clinton that that was improper and
that violated the law, and her campaign was fined one
(09:58):
hundred and thirty four thousand dollars. Well, President Trump called
his nda with Stormy Daniels right. His lawyer paid Stormy
Daniels off, and then Trump reimbursed his lawyer, Michael Cohen.
So Trump's campaign then labeled it as a legal expense
(10:23):
because they paid a lawyer, same thing that Hillary Clinton
did with the Steele dossier. But Trump doesn't, his campaign
doesn't get fined one hundred and thirty four thousand dollars
like Clinton's campaign. He gets indicted, he gets prosecuted for
the same thing. And when we think about it, and
you all know that I wasn't a big Trump guy,
(10:46):
A lot of you don't like me for that, but
you know, I'm going to call things the way I
see it. What Hillary Clinton did was worse because it
was saying that a Russian foreign government was using a
presidential candidate as an asset. That's treasonous and it was
not true. And they called it a legal expense. Well,
(11:09):
Donald Trump simply did the same thing over an agreement
with someone he had an affair with, right and a
personal agreement like Okay, I don't want my wife to
find out, I don't want this. I paid my lawy.
I'll call it a legal expense. And instead he gets
a criminal conviction. And now we're going to see if
his administration is going to do to Obama and Clapper
(11:32):
and Komi and Brennan what the Biden administration did the Trump.
We're going to see if the DOJ listen. It's terrible news.
We have so many things in this country. We have
to deal with important things. I'll touch about this on
next week's show. We'll figure out what's going on. But
when we come back from the break, I'm going to
(11:53):
bring on an independent journalist. We got a lot to
talk about. Don't touch that dial, change the channel. Know
it is Sunday at seven PM, and you are locked
into the hard truth with John Deaton. But even in
everyone Sunday as Usual, it's been a busy week. With
President Trump as the president, there is never a slow
(12:13):
day in the news. But we're going to start the show,
and remember you can reach me at John at Hard
Truthshow dot com. That's John at Hartruthshow dot com. I
said I was going to bring on regular citizens who
I believe are ordinary citizens doing extraordinary things. I have
a very special guest, that's Jess Machado. I'm gonna let
(12:35):
her introduce herself, but Jess, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Hey John, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
All right, So why don't you tell us a little
bit what you're doing right now, who you are, where
you live, give us a little background information, and tell
us what you're up to today.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Coore. My name is Justicamashato. I'm an independent journalist based
down in Bristol County, Fall River, New Bedford area. I've
been completely independent, working on my own since January of
this year. But I have a background working for another
local media outlet as well as a radio background, and
primarily what I do is investigative journalism, So I am
(13:11):
looking at things that mainstream media does not look at
and then digging around, asking questions and then sharing that
with my audience. I covered the Karen Reid trial one
and two, which allowed me to build a really great base,
and post trial, those people stayed, they stuck around. They
were really happy to have people that aren't connected to
mainstream media, legacy media outlets that are funded from god
(13:34):
knows where, and so I'm completely independent.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I work on my own by myself.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I love a good foyer request, so public records requests.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Are my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Get that information and then make it easily digestible for
readers and listeners, and then share it with everybody. I've
covered extensively the migrant crisis here in Massachusetts for the
past two years, and I've broken several stories regarding that
a location next to me in the Tawton area, at
the Clarion Hotel, which is finally closed, but I uncovered
(14:05):
a bunch of different stories out of there, as well
as dissecting all of the incident reports that came out
of the Healy hotels across the state and kind of
breaking those down and sharing with regular tax paying citizens
how their tax dollars were being spent. So it's very
rewarding work. I love doing it. It doesn't feel like work,
and as a conservative in Massachusetts. I feel like it's
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my responsibility to share that information with regular voters who
I think really would like to vote or lean to
the right, but they don't have access to the truth
and information. And I've found, especially in areas like Bristol
County where I'm working, when voters hear both sides of
the story, they vote responsibly. And that is why Fall River,
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for the first time in the history of Fall River,
they voted for a Republican president in the majority, and
we've been able to flip some really long term seats
held by Democrats down here because we give people the
truth and they're smart. Voters are smart, so they figure
it out on their own. But we've got to kind
of have more of me and other people like me
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around the state to get that information out to voters.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
All right, there's a lot to unpack. You're in Where
do you live?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm in Somerset, Massachusetts, down in Bristone, all.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Right, and so you're based out of Bristol County. Yes, now,
right now, I want to make sure we do this
a couple of times, but I want you to let
people know how they can reach out to you contact you. Also,
you know, I want people to understand and we're going
to unpack it. But you know, just is an independent journalist,
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investigative journalists covering stories that mainstream media do not cover.
And we're going to talk about that in a minute.
But the only way she's able to do that, you know,
she's got bills right, and we want her the truth.
How can they reach you? How can they donate to
to make sure that we have people like you out
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there digging the truth for us.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
That is an important part of this.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
When I told my family I was going to kind
of go out on my own, I was like, we're
going to be poor for a little while, so like
hang in there.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So my supporters can help in a couple of ways.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
The first is on my x account, so Jess Mashado Show,
and that is my platform everywhere, whether it's on YouTube, x, substack, Instagram,
it's Jess Mahado Show. You can donate right there in
my profile. There's a little money symbol. You can make
a cash donation through Venmo. Otherwise you can subscribe to
my substack. There's a monthly, yearly or like a legacy
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donation option where you can support my writing right on there.
And then advertisers who are interested in advertising with my
show once we get started next next month, they can
reach out to me through those platforms and they can
advertise with me. I always, I know it's crazy. I
put my phone on or out there for people who
want to share stories, tips, or contribute or help out.
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It's posted on my x account and you can find
it on there. It's pinned at the top. But I
let you know, ease of access and communication so people
can reach me through those platforms.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay, And just so you know for the listeners, that's
Jess Machado. So was j E ss M A C
H A d O show Jess Mishadle Show on x YouTube.
Please subscribe? Now? Why don't you did you ever work
in mainstream media at any point? Jess?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
So, I got hired by a AM radio station out
of New Bedford called WBSM, and they are the AM
version of a mainstream media town let's see town Square
Media company. Anybody down here would know it's fun. One
oh seven is their FM version. And I got hired
by that station to do an AM Saturday show for
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three hours to talk politics. And I did it for
about a year and a half. Three hours every Saturday.
The first hour I would talk local politics and news,
the second hour would be state, and then the third
would be national, and I grew a really great following people.
First of all, there's no women conservatives out there other
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than I would say Grace Curley that has her show
with the Howie Carr Network. But there's no women out
there that are talking, especially conservative women in Massachusetts. But
I knew that there were people around me that wanted that,
and so I started there. So not quite mainstream, it
was an AM station and I did that for about
a year and a half and then I started writing
for a very small local media outlet called Full River Reporter.
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It's a veteran owned small media outlet down here in
Fall River and New Bedford. And it was only for
one year, but that's when I really started doing these
investigative pieces. I was a freelance writer, but I didn't
do it for work until I started working for them,
and I just started, you know, digging into stories, things
that were I'm most curious about. Naturally, the migrant crisis
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certainly was getting me aggravated and I needed to know more,
and so I was empowered to write about that. So
that's really it. Nothing really mainstream media. I you know,
I say all the time, if someone from mainstream media
called me today and offered me a job, I would
turn it down. I'm not selling my soul out to
those people, and they have no they have no control
over what they say or do you know. I worked
with a lot of those people on the Karen retrial.
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Great people, really nice, very professional, but they are owned
and their opinion and and the truth sometimes doesn't always
make it out to you know, the main group of
people that subscribe to mainstream media outlets, so never really
worked in it, and I don't envision myself doing it
in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What's your explanation for why we don't see more stories
in mainstream media, whether it's the Boston Globe or whether
it's you know, local television. You know, for example, I'll
give one issue that I don't understand why there isn't
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a significant amount of attention on the failure of the
fact that the state legislature is violating the law and
not cooperating with an audit that seventy two percent of
the voters demanded be the law. I don't see enough
coverage on that. I certainly did not see enough coverage
from mainstream media on what was happening inside these Healy hotels. Sure,
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you know there was a high a bust where they said, yeah,
there was a guy that had you know, fentnoh and
a gun and he was running drugs, and they report
something like that. But you know, you didn't hear about
the six hundred and sixty serious incidents. You know, you
didn't hear that about unless it was from people like you. You
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didn't hear about the seven hundred percent increase in police
cause in Fall River, you know, all because of these shelters.
What you know, I would value your opinion because you're
in news and I'm not so much. Why do you
think they just turn a blind eye to it, Because
I don't think there's any other way to say it
other than turning a blind eye to it.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Well, I have no doubt that politicians and you know,
people with money control the media here. And that's a fact.
I don't know how else to say that. There are
political power players in the state of Massachusetts that have
a direct line to the Boston Herald and the Boston Globe.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
That's fact. I don't know else to say that.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
The other thing too, is these news organizations are slowly
crumbling as mainstream media recognizes that people don't believe them
and they've lost trust in them. And so you see
all the time The Herald News, for example, which has
been a staple news company down here, closed its doors.
It consolidated with other newspapers in the area. They fired
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all their staff. They're not getting the advertising, they don't
have the money, and they can't afford to pay people
to do what I do. And even if they could,
they wouldn't because they're controlled by politicians and you know,
people from not even in this state, to be quite
honest with you, that are controlling what you and I
read in those in those publications. So that's the first thing.
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I mean, Listen, they can't afford the work that I do.
And also I think they're scared. The truth makes people uncomfortable.
It really does you know the truth of the Healy
Hotels and what was happening with those incident reports, for example, John,
it's really difficult things to read, and I spent three
and a half days reading every incident report that the
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Master Goop had requested. I poured over each one. I
read in detail. Although highly redacted. You can't unring that
bell when you see the things that were happening in there.
And I'm just going to tell you reading about that
in a regular news publication or on your six PM
news is never going to happen because the reality of
it is, it's disgusting, it's difficult to hear, and people
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don't want to hear that kind of stuff. The news
doesn't want to give it to them. I find people
do want to hear it. They need to know what's
going on, and if they don't, we have to make
sure they see it anyway so that when they get
to the voting booth they remember these stories and they're like, okay,
we have to make that attachment for them, you know,
like this doesn't just happen. It's your elected officials and
your leaders in the state, and that's how your money's
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being spent and what it's being spent on. And so
I don't know, I feel it's a very important job,
but yeah, mainstream media is not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm telling you, well, you know, you just when you
were saying that they're told what to do. I have
this vision. I'm sure you've seen it where all the
news stations, local stations all across the country. We're reading
the same script on a daily basis. Okay, we're gonna
cut for a break. When we come back, we're going
to dig into some of the stories. I also know
that Jess received an award. We're going to talk about that.
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Come back. You're listening to The Hard Truth on WRKO.
I'm John Deaton with Jess Mushadow. You can reach you
at Jess Shadows Show. Come right back. All right, welcome
back to the Hard Truth. Is John Deet and you're
listening to me interview Jess my Shadow, a independent journalist
working out of Bristol County. And Jess, I understand I
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was present on a night that you received an award,
So I know you're modest, but why don't you tell
us what that warded?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I received a Journalist of the Year Female Journalists of
the Year at a Lincoln Reagan dinner, and first award
I've ever received, to be honest with you, but it
definitely felt great to be acknowledged by you know, first
of all people in my party, but you know, for
the work that I'm doing, it's I would like to
say it's a thankless job. It's not, it's every day
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is rewarding, but it certainly felt great for people to say, hey,
we see you, we really like what you do, we
appreciate the work you're doing, and it's making a difference.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So yeah, I was very excited to receive.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, congratulations, it's well deserved. You know, we're talking about
the the serious incidents reports in the Healy's hotels, and
you know, mainstream media doesn't want to put you know,
this show is called The Hard Truth. Those reports that
you were looking over talked about things like child rape.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Didn't they They did, you know, child rape, a very
serious pattern of domestic violence, child neglect, suicide, suicide of
adults and children, you know, guns, drugs, very unclean conditions,
and there were a lot of them, thousands of reports,
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and so yeah, I mean that's the reality of the
inside of those hotels. I didn't necessarily need those reports
to see that. I've been inside one of the hotels.
I've seen things, you know, by being present, and I've
also had tipsters on the inside for well over a
year that were sending me photos and things, and the
conditions were disgusting, not even temporarily, but for years. You know,
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these people were living in really unkempt conditions with growth bugs, rats, mice.
But then on top of that, you know, the incident
reports themselves detail unfortunately, really uncomfortable human behaviors that have
been brought in across the border and funded by your
tax dollars. And that's the thing that always kind of
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hung in the back of my mind every report I read,
every piece of that report, from the housing to the police,
to the schooling, the transportation, all of it was is
funded by you.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And well, people understand is that you know these hotels,
you're talking about obviously the rent of a hotel and
I've seen the cheapest I saw was, you know, one
eighty one sixty and some hotels, but you're talking about
five thousand dollars a month for a hotel room in
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a lot of these cases where they're catered. Mills brought
to these folks as well.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yes, So you know, a basic operation is you've got
a family, let's just say a family of four. They're
in a hotel and taught. They are getting three meals
a day brought in from outside locations breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
They're also getting food stamps so they're getting a food
benefit that they can use to get food inside their
actual rooms and that they can use. They're getting cash benefits.
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They're getting transportation to and from wherever they want to go.
John So if a parent, for example, wants to go
to a parent teacher conference at their child's school, they
just go downstairs to the desk and say I need transportation,
and they get transportation to go to the school, to
go to the mall, to go to a doctor's office.
The tat in hotel did not have laundry facilities there,
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so they have a company that would come and pick
up their laundry once a week and then do a wash,
dry and fold and it would be folded neatly and
dropped right in front of their hotel room door once
a week. On top of that, you've got health insurance,
You've got legal defense funds you know that are funding
any type of legal def public defenders for the people
that are getting charged and charged with crimes. Health insurance, phones, schooling,
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I mean, you name it, they're getting it. A recent
report just came out and said that the average cost
for a family right now is around thirty eight hundred
dollars a week. I mean, what Massachusetts tax paying family
could not benefit from that kind of money And how
life changing would it be for some people to have
those kinds of funds for a month, a year, two years,
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I mean, And it's perpetuating. I've said this so many times.
I started talking about this weeks ago, well months ago. Really,
just because the hotels are closing doesn't mean that the
funds stop. It's just relocation of these same people to
another place and the money is different. So now they're paying,
you know, for rent in private homes or you know,
private buildings through the home base program, and perpetuating the
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hemorrhaging of taxpayer dollars that way.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And I got I got two theories on that. You
can tell me if i'm you know, you think I'm
whack a doodle or not. But one is she's shutting
down the Healey hotels and moving them a maybe to
help hide them from deportations number one. Number two, she's
got an election. You know, it's election season. We know
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that I've had Brian short Sleeve on my show. I've
had Mike Neely on my show. I believe Mike mcnogue
is going to get in the race soon. I'll invite
Mike on the show. All friends of mine, they're all
going to get equal opportunity. But I'm not sure if
there wasn't an election that she had coming up, that
she would even move them out of the Heeley hotels.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I think your theories can both exist at the same time.
I do think that you know, moving them and getting
them out of there is to hide them. We have
no idea where they are, so only through tips and
through people that have kind of been in these places,
am I able to kind of pinpoint some locations of
where they are.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But we don't know. That's a dangerous thing.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
By the way, So these women who were facing domestic
abuse in these hotels, they had a hotel desk they
could run to downstairs and say, hey, he's hitting me,
or he's doing something to my child, or he stole
my debit card. There's nobody saving you in a private
residence at this point, and there's nobody documenting it. So
these reports, again, the circumstances don't stop, it's just that
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the parameters of it are now gone. So yes, moving
them and hiding them from possible deportation or any type
of ease of access, and also to the optics of
closing these hotels. It drives me nuts when we see
mainstream media say, oh, the hotels all closed by their
final date. It was simply just relocating these individuals. You know,
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you had twenty two twenty three thousand people come into
Massachusetts through the Biden border, you know, infiltration. They they
didn't disappear, and we didn't deport them. They're still here
with the same problems, and we don't hear a lot
about them transitioning to financial independence. We don't hear about
them being self sufficient working. We don't hear any of
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those things. All we're hearing right now is we've moved
them out of the hotels and they've closed, but those
same services and the same funding is still happening just
somewhere where.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
We don't know now.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Now do we know how I read It could have
been something that you wrote, to be honest with Jess,
but I read that in Taunton one car service had
a it was either a six or eight million dollar
contract related. Do we know how these contracts get rewarded,
whether there's multiple bids. Listen, I'm an outsider the politics.
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I ran, Yes, I may run again. We'll see but
I have no trust for these politicians. I mean, I've
already know that Heally rewarded her friend from Blue Hub
and allowed a law where people can't sue this predatory
lender again people in disadvantage and underserved communities. She's already
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done that kind of favor for her donors. So you know,
I believe are these no bid contracts that are just
being handed out or is there any transparency about this process?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
So I'd like to revisit the Blue Hub thing in
a minute, because I broke that story.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Between c That's where I learned it Erry.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
But in regards to these no bid contracts, one of
the things that I should mention is the Massachusetts is
in a state of emergency. That declaration was made by
Governor Heally back in twenty twenty three, and just so
that you know and your listeners now, under no other
circumstances other than a weather related event such as a hurricane,
a flood, or a snowstorm, and that gas explosion that
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we had many years ago, there has never been a
state of emergency in Massachusetts for something like this. So
that declaration and that blanket statement of state of emergency
does give her a certain level of freedom where she
doesn't have to put out bid contracts. She can spend
in ways that you normally wouldn't spend. So I have
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been asking that question, when are we going to see
that state of emergency end? Does it really feel like
an emergency today as it did in twenty twenty three?
Did it even really meet that threshold? She said yes,
But I think it was obvious that she knew that
that was going to give her some sort of blanket
protection to make all of these swift decisions under the
air of secrecy and non transparency, because again, emergency needs.
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Think about this, if you have a fire or something, Hey,
we need to spend money right away. We've got to
help these people. We've got to get them in housing
right away. Boom boom boom. Let's make fast decisions. It's
not meant to last years. I think we've only seen, honestly,
I think the most a week of a state of emergency.
We've never seen one in Massachusetts that's lasted years. So
she's given herself that protection. She just recently extended it
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to November of this year. So she's asking for more
time to have this power, and she's going to use it.
She's very good at it. And as far as transparency,
I put in public records requests to the Office of
Housing and Livable Communities, which is the one part of
our government where we're supposed to be able to get
all information relating to the Heey hotels, and it is
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so hard John to get information from them. If you
you know, I'll ask a question, I'll say, hey, I'm
interested in learning about the transportation costs. We don't know
what you're talking about. You've got to be more specific.
But then they get like another twenty five days to respond.
So it goes back and back and back.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Sometimes it's not very clear. Sometimes the numbers don't add up.
It's hard to get that information. I know that some
people have been doing a good job of kind of
trying to extract that information from the state. I know
that the short Sleeve campaign just put in some public
records requests. I love to see people do this. I
want more of it, but it is very difficult. If
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I could ask for anything to be changed in the
state right now that I think that could really make
change for everybody. It's the ease of access to information,
how your tax dollars are being spent. The public records
request system is archaic, it's lengthy, and it's not transparent.
And we should be able to have right at our
fingertips how our tax dollars are being spent all the time.
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We shouldn't have to ask for it. We shouldn't have
to dig for it. It should be available for you
and me right on our laptops.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Absolutely. Now we're going to take a break. In a minute,
we're going to talk about the Blue Hub. I want
to talk about that, that story that you broke in
thirty seconds. You know you followed Karen Reid one, Karen
read true two. So I'm going to ask you, did
the jury get it right?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
One hundred percent? Definitely got it right?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Got ondred percent?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Different case this time around. They did a great job, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And for the I predicted, I didn't predict that she
would be guilty of a dui or anything like that,
but I obviously it's a former federal prosecutor predicted that
not guilty.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Verdict was I think they got it right.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That made sense. So when we come back, we'll finish
up with Jess Machadow. You listen to the Hard Truths
with John d All right, everybody, welcome back to the show.
You're listening to The Hard Truth on WRKO. I'm John Deaton.
You can reach the show at John at Hardtruthshow dot com.
John at Hardtruthshow dot com. We are talking to Jess
my shadow of the Jessmshadle Show. You can go to
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Jessmshadle Show on YouTube. On x you can donate to
this independent journalist who is doing the investigative work that
the mainstream media refuses to do in the seek of
transparency and truth. Now, I gotta tell you, your Blue
Hub story is something that hits home with me. You
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know a little bit about my background, you know, extreme poverty.
You know, I grew up in welfare and food stamps.
My first year of law school, I lived in Roxbury.
And there was this why don't you tell us in
your own words what Blue Hub was doing and what
you ended up doing a great job of breaking.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Thank you. So this actually started last November.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Governor Heally was at a press conference and she was
talking about I believe, like an economic development package that
she had put together for four billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
And it was just a regular presser.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
And State House media reported that some guy showed up
and started yelling at her about this mortgage situation. And
I remember reading that and I was with my boss
at the time. We were at Starbucks, and we were like,
what is he complaining about? I don't know anything about this,
So we looked into it and that night started digging.
So Blue Hub Capital is a nonprofit company here in Massachusetts.
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The CEO of that company is a Lease Cherry. She
is a longtime Mori Heelly supporter. She financially supports her.
She has held many fundraisers for her, and in news
interviews both of them have spoken very highly and affectionately
about each other. They have a long standing friendship. This
goes back to when Morihelly was the Attorney General and
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so Blue Hub Capital has many different compartments of what
they do, but this particular piece was a mortgage company
that would tell people who were low income that were
facing foreclosure that they could help them. And essentially what
they would do is they would let's just say, John,
you have a house for three hundred thousand dollars and
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you lost your job and you're falling behind, and Bank
of America is your a lender, and they're ready to
foreclose on you. You get a cold call or a letter
in the mail or an email, or maybe you're down
at food stamps and you're trying to get on public
assistance and they offer you this company called blue Hub Capital.
They're going to help you. So you meet with blue
Hub Capital, and what they do is they're going to
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buy your home from you and take over that mortgage
from Bank of America, and then they're going to sell
it back to you right on the same day.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
And that's what they would do.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
So John, you go to this meeting and they buy
your house from you for three hundred thousand dollars, they
pay off Bank of America, you're no longer in foreclosure.
They're going to sell it back to you on that
same day. These transactions occurred on the same day. You
don't have money for closing costs. If you did, you
could be paying your mortgage right So you don't have
the money for these fees or anything. Don't worry. Blue
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Hub Capital is going to just add that into the
new loan. So now you've got a loan for three
hundred and forty thousand dollars with blue Hub Capital. The
interest rate is a little bit higher, but hey, they
saved you right, No big deal. Now fast forward five
years from now, John, You've got a job, you're back
on your feet. That mortgage rate is a little too high.
It's time for you to refinance. So you go to
your local bank in town and you say, I'm ready
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to refinance. They get you all the way down and
they pull the title and they realize that there is
a second mortgage on that property and you don't know
anything about that. They pulled the docs and they realized
that on that day you signed two mortgages. One was
for the mortgage that you've been paying all this time,
but the second is for an appreciation mortgage, which means
that if you're home now today John, is worth five
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hundred thousand dollars, it's gone up two hundred thousand dollars
in the past five years. You have to pay blue
Hub Capital for twenty percent of that appreciation value in
a balloon payment if you want to do anything. So now, John,
you're going to pay eighty thousand dollars to Blue Hub
Capital on that day of that closing. You don't have
that money. And if you do take it out in equity,
for example, now your mortgage payment is going to be
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much higher than what it was supposed.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Than it was before, which defeats the purpose of refinance
and it to begin.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Right, So now you're stuck.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Now you're stuck with it and you can't refinance, and
you go, Okay, First of all, I didn't know anything
about this. Second of all, now I'm stuck. You don't refinance,
So now forever you're stuck paying that let's say seven
point five percent interest rate. Fast forward. Now the loan
thirty years, you're getting twenty five years. It's time for
you to consolidate, make changes in whatever. Now the property
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is worth way more, Blue Hub still gets forty percent
of that appreciation value, robbing your family of an opportunity
to start generational wealth or giving you an opportunity to
use your money to go in, retire or do whatever.
They are being accused of predatory lending practices, and many
of the people who had these extra mortgages have now
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joined together in a lawsuit to sue them. As this
lawsuit has moved forward, nobody has talked about it. But
during that press conference, one of those homeowners started screaming
at Maraheely because in that bill that she was putting
together and signing into law that day was a provision
for companies just like Blue Hub Capital to say that
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they could not face legal action. And the parameters of
that bill and that piece in there actually only fit
one company in the state of Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Plase, I wonder what company it is. Mora Heey's good friend,
her donor her lifelong friend. Oh my god, my blood
is boiling for so many reasons. One, I happen to
be a class action lawyer. I fought for consumers all
my life. I've fought asbestos companies on behalf of asbestos victims,
Melsalthelioma victims, have been fighting corporate greed for thirty years.
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And what drives me insane are these far left liberal politicians,
whether it's Elizabeth Warren or whether it's Mori Heally, who
get up there and they pretend to be for consumers.
They pretend to be for individual working people. They pretend
to care about the poor people, the underserved communities in Roxbury, Mattapan, Brockton, Springfield,
(42:19):
and the list goes on. And a predatory lender like
this is committing fraud because all that fine print, they
know that those people don't understand what they're signing. They
don't understand that they're selling their soul. They're giving up
forty percent of price appreciation of a period of thirty years. So,
(42:40):
as Jess said to everybody out there, you know, the
American dream in this country has been defined by owning
your home, and people that's their number one asset and
they work all their life. And if that home has
appreciated to a million dollars in the Greater Boston area
like average homes, now you're gonna get forty percent to
(43:02):
this predatory lender. And Maura Healy gives her a free
get out of jail card. It is disgusting. It is
corruption at its core. And what else do you got
to say. I'm sorry, I excuse the rant, but I
just I just it drives me insane.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
But go ahead, Jess, Well there, I mean, there is
some good news.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
So actually, two days after that bill has passed and
this provision is put into place to protect blue Hub,
the attorneys for Blue Hub Capital filed a motion to
dismiss these lawsuits against them, and our Attorney General, Andrea
Campbell actually filed an amicus brief on this basically saying, hey, listen,
this may be a new law, but it can't apply
to existing lawsuits, so we think that they were clear there.
(43:48):
The news around blue Hub today and yesterday is that
Andrea Campbell has drafted some sort of new provisions that
would require companies like blue Hub to be more forthcoming
with this kind of information. And but let's be honest,
if you're doing the digging that I'm doing. Blue Hub
Capital hasn't issued any mortgages in Massachusetts for the past
year and a half. They've actually moved on to other
(44:09):
states where they're doing this across the country. They've tapped
out in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
We're on to them.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
We know what's happening, and nobody is using their services anymore.
The other thing too, John, just so you know, John Featherston,
who was a manager at one of the Heey hotels,
I reached out to him and asked if he was
familiar with this company, and he said one of their subsidiaries,
which is a company that actually helps fund loans to
migrants who are trying to become residents here, was soliciting
(44:37):
migrants at the hotels. And this is a subsidiarya of
Bluehub Capital. So they've got their hands in everything in
this state. They're preying on the most vulnerable people, and
I love to see that. A democrat, I believe, from Brockton,
where many of these Blue Hub customers were living and
these situations where their houses were occurring, is kind of
getting involved and supporting this new legislation that's going to
(45:00):
try to help make this more transparent. But in my opinion, John,
it's too little, too late. The damage has already been done.
And by the way, the majority of these people who
lost their homes, their minorities, their black homeowners, and again
sometimes first time homeowners, and you know generations and Blue
Hub capital owns them. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, listen, how come now, why aren't we seeing I
guess you already answered it, but I have to say it.
I think the Boston Globe should have a picture of
Mori Healy with the word corruption in capital letters, with
her and her friend the CEO. But I haven't seen
(45:40):
anything really on the mainstream. I just don't understand why
that is blatant corruption where you have a politician giving
a friend a free past that says, you know what,
I'm going to just make it unlawful for consumers to
sue you for fraud and misrepresentation. It is in and
(46:00):
it should boil your blood. And these are the stories
that voters need to hear. And I sure hope that
whether it's Kanneelie or short Sleeve and we Know or
whoever you know, that they talk to you and this
is this is something that should be a centerpiece, I
believe when they're on the debate stage with her more
healing and bringing.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I mean, if these candidates can't bring it out to
the forefront, I'm not sure anybody else will. It's definitely
something I think that can turn a voter in one
direction next year. But again, you just said it. They
have to get that information first. So that's why every
day I wake up John, I'm like, we got to
get out here. We got to keep pushing because you
never know who I mean, I could wake up like
(46:42):
today and get a call from you and say, hey,
come on my show, let's talk a little bit about this.
Now your audience heard that story, and then maybe someone
else will see it and I'll call in and you know,
call into another show. We've got to get that these facts.
You know, I'm not fabricating this. None of this is untrue.
These are all facts that exist it's just getting that
in information, making it easy to understand and break it down,
(47:02):
just the way you said more heally took care of
her friend. She took care of her bestie to protect
her so she can go and make more money. Alish Cherry,
as the CEO of Blue Hub, makes like one point
five million dollars a year. It's a nonprofit, but she's
profiting for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
One hundred percent. We got forty seconds left. Anything you're
working on now that you want to share, or any
thoughts on politics as we move forward. Anything.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I'm very excited for this gubernatorial election cycle. We've got
some fantastic candidates that have stepped up.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Do you see momentum building for.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Oh yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
People are thirsty for change.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
We've got to get this message out to other pockets
across the state and change voters' minds.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Absolutely. You can reach Jess at Jess Mashadow Show. That's
Jess m a h a d O Show. Donate please
if you can. Every little bit helps. We need people
like her out there pounding the pavement for transparency and truth.
Thank you so much. I'll be seeing you soon.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Okay, Thanks John very much.
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