Health and Wellness Show 08-05-2023

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Episode Transcript

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Good morning and welcome time now forthe Health and Wellness Show, or good
morning again to those of you whohung out with this last hour and the
home approved we showed the Midlands.We always appreciate that. I'm Gary David
guy. We got a busy hourhere. We'll talk about getting you feeling
better with a therapeutic massage. Allmassages can make you feel better. Sometimes
they hurt, but for a goodreason. We'll be talking about therapeutic massages

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with the owner of Massage Mechanics overin Election and that is Miss Aaron Plot,
who will join us later on inthis half hour. Getting and keeping
your home healthy, the importance ofit and how they can help you.
Brown, the new owner of MollyMay is gonna be joining us to talk
about that, coming up in thenext half hour of this morning's edition of
The Health and Wellness Show. Goodto have you with us this Saturday morning.
We get things going though on theprogram with my friend Jim Snell from

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the Law office of James Snell.Good morning, sir, Good morning.
Letters of a letter of protection willbe our topic this morning. That's right
now. I do want to Ido want to go back just very briefly
A couple of things. First ofall, this I always like your the
introductions, right, hearing about thepeople coming up, because you know,
every everybody, you know, everybodydoes such great work. Just imagine how

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nice it would be to go geta massage and the whole time, you
know, says at your house cleaningit. It's perfect. I'll be the
perfect I'd be with the best days, right. Yeah, and uh so
you know Aarons is so busy.She always joins us by by phone.
Years ago she used to come in. You know, the last time that
Aaron was in the studio with me, she almost the next time she came

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in, she'd give me a massage. On the show that I haven't seen
her in the studio she didn't comeback anyway. I actually we've been over
to Bossage Mechanics a couple of times. They do great work over there.
You're right though, getting a massageand having somebody to clean your house perfect,
fantastic, perfect. And hopefully youdon't need a lawyer at the same

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time, if you do, Iknow a good one. Yeah, hopefully
not you be kind of yeah,imagine you know, having combined all that,
um all right, so other thing, other things, cool, other
thing. So last time I washere, um and for people who don't
know uh, and and who haven'tfigured out obviously this is completely unscripted,
and uh, I don't I'm notup there. Yeah, I don't have

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notes or or you know, umanything. One of the things that came
up was a phrase for a legaldoctrine about um, basically referring to a
rule that exists in some jurisdiction,not South Carolina, that if you have
an accident right that could only becaused by negligence, right um, that

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it automatically creates liability. Okay,you don't have to prove what happened or
prove how it happened. You justsay, hey, look this happened.
Therefore you know you're responsible, rightum. And the doctrine uh. And
I was trying to grasp at whatthe legal phrase is, um, because

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this doctrine doesn't exist in South Carolina, but I remembered it from law school.
And and anyway, what the theLatin was was rapes race absolute low
quitter race. It's a low quitter. So I really screwed it up last
time. It's a dead language,Joe, if you get it wrong that
many people know. It's a deadlanguage. And basically, well, and

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what that really means. I thinkin the context we were discussing it was
in South Carolina. You know,almost always if you have an accident,
Um, you still have to provewhy the other person is at fault,
like what they did wrong or whatthey didn't or they should have. Um.
You can't simply say, well,I got hurt, therefore somebody else

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has to pay. I mean therethere there are a few. There are
a few, you know, exceptions, Um, like dog bites or one
area. Um, you know dogbites are strict liability. You know dog
bites you um, and uh.I think the State Supreme Court years ago
held um, blast mining I thinkas a strict like like you, if

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you get injured into blast mining accident, Uh, so you have a ridge
way be careful. But other thanthat, UM, that's that's you.
You know, it means a lawyer, I've still got to figure out if
my client got hurt, how theygot injured, whose fault, and what
actually led to the injury, likewhat was done wrong or what in convinced

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joe joe jury. That's just theway it has and and right and being
identified. And sometimes it's real selfexplanatory, right, you know, like
you get you get you know,you're stopped at a stop side, you
get rear ended, right, socrystal clear. Other times you do have
to get you know, investigators,expert witnesses, um, you know,
people who can go in it's youknow, with PhDs or something and and

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figure out why the safety system failedor the warnings weren't adequate anyway. But
just just just to say, whatI screwed up was raceips of lowquiter.
So I want to correct that onthe record, race some lowquiter loiter.
Yeah, if I remember correctly,the case from from law school, I
think was a barrel that rolled outof a second story window and like hit

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somebody. So if you're just walkingdown the street and a barrel falls out
of a second story window, Imean it's pretty obvious. Yeah, and
it's i mean obviously something went wrong. But and and that kind of that's
that's how I understood the doctrine wasyou know, described in raceips of your
stiction. That's all you need isthe barrel fell. And maybe in other

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your sticks you st to go alittle further, like actually, what what
pas. Yeah, no, wonderfulmakes sense. Sounds like a three Studies
episode or something. I don't know, somebody slapstick. So letter of protection.
I've had this question. I happened. I happen to know what letter
protection is because before we came on, Jim told me. But this is
a question I've had. We talkabout somebody gets injured in an accident.

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It's not their fault. Uh,they have medical bills piling up. You
know, you've you've retained the servicesof an attorney to try to get the
most money you can from an insurancecompany. But in the meantime, you've
got medical expenses that have racked up. And so this this kind of addresses
that this topic today doesn't not itdoes. And I want to say this

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is what I'm describing is just onetool, okay, and it's and it's
it's certainly something that has both prosand cons Okay, okay. And a
letter of protection is a I'm gonnadescribe it as it's a It's a contract
inured into between the injured party UM, a medical provider and the UM the

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lawyer the law office being responsible forthe case. And what it provides is
that a medical provider will extend creditto the injured person, so they'll provide
evaluations, treatments, therapies, whatever, whatever their field is. Then at
the end of the case, whenthere's a settlement or a recovery um,

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the lawyer then has to pay medicalprovider directly the amount of that bill out
of the proceeds of the settlement beforethey goes to the injured party. You
see this a lot with interest I'msure it being the letter. Actually usually
not, but but it could,I mean you could, you could,
you could, they could, theycould try to put that in there.

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You see this a lot with chiropractorchiropractic care, So a lot of chiropractors
offered to take legal clients, youknow, give them a series of treatments,
wait till the case is over tocollect um. But you also can
see there are some other providers withactual doctors, medical doctors that can provide

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care. Can you know, eveneven provide things such as MRIs or X
rays, um, physical or physicaltherapists. UM. I'm mean aware of
a situation here recently with a veryserious accident that there was an orthopedic um
surgeon going to do a whole surgeryyou know, on a utter protection,

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right, Um, I to assumethese are people that may not have or
could you do that even though you'vegot medical insurance. So you're all supposed
to have anyway. But still yeah, so so so yeah, no,
I don't know insurance, you know, I don't know what insurance covers,
and maybe policies are different about specificallychiropractic care, right yet things like that.

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Yeah, yeah, those situations.But that's okay, that's a good
point. So one of the oneof the risks are, um, if
if somebody does have a lawyer,uh who you know, kind of refers
them to a medical provider that cando it, you know, a bigger
level service under a letter protection,and that person has health insurance. Though

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right here, here's the risk.If you have health insurance, Um,
the health insurance will have a contractwith the medical provider to satisfy the bill
for a lower amount. I'most alwaysright, okay, So so if if
if a hospital builds you a tenthousand dollars oftentimes see the Explanation of Benefits

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form, you know, where aninsurance company paid twenty five or some small
number, right, Um, ina letter protection, you're basically promising to
pay the pay the medical provider thebill, the entire the bill, right,
and so it depending on who theprovider is and what those services are
going to be. UM, thatamount could be more than say, if

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it was paid through insurance. Soyeah, it was a ten thousand dollars,
Say it's one hundred thousand dollar billand the insurance company was going to
pay twenty five thousand, and thatwas going to be it. In this
case, they pay their twenty fiveand then once the case is settled,
there's seventy five thousand dollars coming outof that pot of money before the report
gets anything. Okay, that's that. That's correct. So these can be

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letters. Pection can be useful toolsspecifically get people chiropractors or you know kind
of physical therapists or something where peoplecan not have to deal with copays.
It's handled seamlessly. UM. Alot of those type offices will have you
know, kind of prepackage levels ofservice, like with multiple treatments. UM,

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They'll they'll be able to prepare themedical records or chart treatments in such
a way that it helps explain toan insurance company or a court later,
you know what the course of treatmentwas, so they can be fine,
right, and they have their place. On the other hand, you know,
if if somebody enters into that kindof arrangement at the recommendation or of

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a of a lawyer without knowing whatthey're signing, right, you know,
what's the how much of these billsgoing to be? Is there a cap?
Right? Do I have insurance thatcould pay the bill separate from this
and save me money? Um?You know, if you just kind of
haphazardly enter into it, it itcan be very problematic. You can see

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that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now I doubt it often happens,
but I admit I guess there couldbe situations where all right, the case
gets settled, but didn't really getwhat you wanted out of it, right,
and now you're sitting here not evenhaving enough to cover this letter of

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protection. Now, now what happens? Yeah, okay, so that's got
to be that's got to be covered. Um, you know in the agreement
with the medical provider about what ifthere is no settlement or what if it's
insufficient? Right? Um? Becauseyou're right, there could also be the
issue where you still love the bill, right. Um. And then and

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of course and I have have runningthis issue before. UM. And again
I don't personally my personal practice,I don't do a whole lot of this.
I don't you know, we certainlyhave, We certainly have have done
them and know when to use themand suggest them. Um. But as
as a general rule, UM,you know, I don't. It's I

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don't have a policy of recommending everyclient every time enter into this. Um.
But the other issue is what ifsomebody signs of letter of protection,
goes to say the chiropractor, thetherapist, gets the work done and just
has a miserable experience, right,Um, staff is rude. Um,
they're just problems. Um. Andthen and then at the end they either

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they're like, look, I didn'tget my money's worth. I don't agree
with paying you know, ten thousandin my case now, or it's not
helping me. I don't feeling anybetter. Yeah, yeah, I don't
want to pay for it, right. Um. And when the issues is,
you know, you signed something likea letter protection, like you know
you're you're basically locked in. Yeah. Um, And and really what happens
if if you don't agree, youknow, or you tell your lawyer not

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to pay it, give you themoney the lawyer really can I mean really
the best best your lawyer can dois maybe try to mediate a little bit,
you know, call the place andsee if they can get you a
discount or something, or I meanjust refer everybody to sue each other or
a journey um and um. Soanyway, that's just it's just one tool.

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And again i've you know, likeI have usen very successfully in situations
with people with no insurance who needlike an MARI after a car wreckt the
document they have a herne at adisc um situations like that, um and
uh. And certainly people that thatneed chiropractic care and have no other way
of getting it. Yeah. Um. But that's just one thing. So

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if you ever hear that term,that's what that is. Are the medical
providers or are they typically willing toassume that risk that there's not enough money
to cover that bill done? Orthat's all probably part of the negotiation.
It is. And I'll tell youthis, there are certain medical providers that
will do these um not not everymedical writer obviously will enter into this.

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There are actually some providers that specificallyseek out these arrangements, you know,
and like buy office has had.In the last year, we've had a
couple of different medical practice come andtry to buy lunch from my staff to
tell me explain to us. Youknow, what doctors they have and what
they can do. Isn't they getlobbied on stuff from the pharmaceutical reps um?
But yes, it's obviously not everyevery medical practice, just a specific

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few that do this. I'm gonnaguess I could be wrong, and maybe
everybody that they don't say this upfront, but maybe there's a bit of
a premium in what they're charging tokind of oh yeah, kind of indigate
some of that risk. Yeah,yes, yes, absolutely, Okay,
absolutely that that would make sense thatyou're gonna probably want to pay more anyway.

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Yes, And but again you know, if you if you don't have
money up front to pay and don'twant to pay up front, I mean
it's sort of they will roll thered carpet for you. Um, but
you know, right the bill alwayscomes, you know, just like death
and taxes. Yeah, all right, so letter of protection, letter protection.
All right, Um, there's thegood and there's the bad of it.

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There it is right there. JimSnell Lavas of James Snell injured in
an accident, began remind I know, we hit remind folks every now and
then. You think most people wouldknow it, and you're probably listening,
do, but not everybody does.You're not paying money up front to sit
down and talk to you. No, it doesn't cost any money to see
to come talk to us, findout what we what we can or can't

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do the help. And again,the goal is to get our clients more
money at the end of the endof the day in their pocket. So
you don't take every case, no, no, And there's a lot of
people we talk to that we justwe're not gonna be to add value and
they can they can do just aswell, if not better, on their
own. We only want to helppeople that we can put more money in
their pocket at the end, youknow, after they pay legal fees and

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costs. Yeah, that's very that'sthat's real important to me. Yeah,
should be all right, And Iappreciate you and folks do you're looking at
it that way, all right?So if folks needed your services, whether
it is again a personal injury oryou do defense work, criminal defense work,
yeah, we do do an awfullot of that and view eyes so
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so wonderful to have you with ushere on this Saturday morning. We appreciate
you joining us for the health andwell in the show. I'm Gary David
and now joined by Aaron Plott ofMassage Mechanics. Aaron, good morning to

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you. Good morning is always.How are you. I'm doing good.
I'm doing good. I hope youare too. And I'm you've had some
of the funk going through your householdhere the last couple of days. So
yes, we did, we were. We were a plague cows with Strup
and flew a. Yeah, yeah, okay, thankfully everybody is well again.
Yeah, good, good to know. Well we're here to talk about,

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of course, the therapeutic massages.Aaron the owner of Massage Mechanics over
in Lexington, and this morning's topicsome of the unusual benefits of massage.
Well, do tell where do westart? Well, you know, we've
talked so much about all the things, you know, and we've talked a
lot about like the hormones that arereleased during a massage and all the pain

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benefits that are there. But thereare some things that you know, you
just never really hear about or talkabout that are some really awesome benefits that
I thought, you know, peoplewould like to know about. And one
of those, and you know,I'm gonna go ahead and throw this out
there because we've had so much sickmess here at my house. Um is

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how it boosts your immune function.So there have been studies and there are
studies to back up literally everything I'mgoing to tell you today, But there
there are studies that have shown thatthe regular massage and they're talking when they
say regular, they're talking like weeklyto bi weekly. So a regular massage

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will boost your white blood cells,which are your infection fighting cells, and
boosts your lymphatic system, which isalso known as as your immunity system.
It's what helps to produce white bloodcells and helps to you know, keep
your body well. So that wassomething that a lot of people don't know

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and and a lot of people tendto especially in blue season and you know,
sinus season, strep season, allthat they tend to void getting their
massages. Don't do that. Don'tdo that. You need it. You
need that. I mean boosting work. And if you work in a field
like nurses, any medical staff,teachers where you're in contact with lots of
people, even BMB workers, whereyou have lots of people and lots of

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stress. You know, stress isour number one killer. You know,
it breaks down your body's defenses,It breaks down your ability to get good
sleep in all of this, andmassage suppressed surprise is known to reduce all
of those stress markers and reduce thehormones that are produced when you're having stressful

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situations, like cortisol at the naffronand nor Affer napron. So this obviously
will help you fleep better, itwill reduce your heart rate, it will
reduce your breathing, and it actuallyhas repairing benefits or not for a lot
of things, your muscle tissue,but all so, it helps your prefrontal

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cortex remodel so that you block painreceptors, so things that typically hurt won't
hurt as much once you've done that. So one of the other really cool
benefits, and this is related topaint, is that scar tissues. So
if you've had burns or scars thathave caused itchiness, tightness, discomfort,

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pain, even sandom limb pain,regular massage can help that. And again
it's stretching the skin, it's helpingit become more pliable, but it's also
helping to um redevelop some of thatneuroplasticity where you know your your your skin
doesn't feel as abnormal. If thatis the best way to put back.

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I think many folks post off right, and it is an excellent way to
look at that because you know,and especially in abdominal and joint post stop.
So abdominal that can be anything froma C section to you know,
a heart procedure to I mean likeanything like that, even plastic surgery,

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and then joints, you know,your knee replacements, your hip replacements,
your you know, rotator cuts,things like that where there's areas where a
lot of scar tissue will build upbecause there's a lot of connective tissue there
and when that scar tissue builds up, it limits your range of motion,
which then sets in a waterfall effectthat can affect all of the musculature in

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your body. And you know,there's nerve damage from the surgery and everything
because they've had to cut three thingsand all, and it's typically not permanent.
Those nerves will grow back, butit takes a little bit of time,
and so there's pain associated with therecovery from the surgery, and massage
can help that. Again. Ithelps to you know, keep those pain
receptors at a much lower lower level, and it helps you to avoid too

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many pills. Honestly, you know, we all know that pain medications are
not the best thing for us.There are a lot of side effects things
like that. So you know,being able to get those range emotions back
and you know, keep your bodycalm and keep your bodies inflammation levels low
is really really important in your healingprocess. I'm just curious because my wife

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just went through back surgery here recentlyand incision, and it's not that big
of an incision. Actually, it'samazing when they can do these days.
But anyway, each and I putsome motion on that or just kind of
rub around that to kind of tryto break up a carcass a bit.
But when you have an incision likethat, I mean, do you have
to wait a certain amount of timebefore you can you know, could come
in to get a therapeutic massage.Not typically. I mean we see our

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post surgical plastic surgery patients because wedo lymphadic drainage work, which is a
very gentle form of massage, andagain it's helping to boost that lymphatic system,
so it helps those white blood cellsthat are helping to heal your body
produce and everything. UM, Soit's all between you and your physician.
Um, we've seen people as quicklyas two to three days post stop um

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that haven't had any complications and havea pretty good history health wise. UM.
But then sometimes there are more complicatedsurgeries where you know, there's more
suturing and things like that, andthey want them to wait a little while.
UM. Also, if you havedrain tubes at all, we like
for you to wait until those areout, mainly because we're not a medical

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facility. We aren't trained to dealwith those. If one came out accidentally
or something like that, Like we'renot trained to deal with that. Um.
That's way out of our scope ofpractice. But one of the other
really cool things, and it's funnythat you brought up post surgical stuff too,
because there are also treatments that aren'tsurgical that people have to you know,

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go through a good bit um andand those are cancer treatments. And
you know, obviously we can youknow, massage is going to help reduce
anxiety, and it's going to promotecalm, and it's going to help reduce
some of the pain from that.It also can help reduce nausea from chemotherapy
treatments. Yes, it can.There have been studies that have shown a

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huge reduction in especially women who arehaving breast cancer treatment, that the the
nausea that they feel from those chemotherapytreatments can be reduced down pretty significantly.
And it can also help you havea healthier heart muscle. So the American

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Heart Association actually has done tons ofstudies and everything, and of course we've
talked about stress and how that leadsto you know, hypertension, stroke,
heart disease, all these things.Stress is awful. We all know this.
So there's a large number of studiesthat have found that there's a direct
correlation between getting regular massage and improvedheart help. So it helps to control

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your blood pressure in women that werepre hypertensive, reducing their blood pressure down
for as long as seventy two hoursafter their massage. And you know,
when it's reducing those pain levels andthe muscle tension and the stress and anxiety
levels, you know, that's droppingall those you know, stress hormones down
to manageable levels so that they aren'tyou know, reacting badly with your body.

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UM massage also reduces the production ofcytokines, which are inflammation builders essentially,
UM and a lot of people whohave thyroid problems. They've heard cytokine
storms and things like that, wherethese bodies essentially like developed and they attack
your system. So cytokines are bigno no, and massage goes a long

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way to help reduce the production ofthose. So, depending on what the
goal is you base the type ofthe massage therapy you do. How many
different sorts of therapy massage are there? There are a lot actually, um,
and some are made for like reallyspecific things. Um. But everybody,

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I believe would agree that the mostcommon and probably the one with the
broadest effectum is a Swedish massage.Um. It's the most well known,
it's classic. You can get aSwedish massage anywhere from you know, your
chiropractor's office to a spot to youknow. I mean, this is what

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we learn. This is the veryfirst most you know, general thing we
learn in school is how to doa Swedish massage. And it's main goal
is to relax and improve circulation.So it's to relax type muscles, relax
your body, improve all that circulationso that all of those good general big

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body effects are felt, like thereduction the reduction of you know, blood
pressure, and the you know,instant of insomnia and things like that,
and those are I mean those arenormally so the Swedish massages typically long gliding
strokes m moderate pressure to firm pressure, so it can be very light depending

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on what you prefer. It canalso be very very firm, and a
lot of people get firm and deepmixed up. Yes, so you know,
typically you're not using your thumbs ina pressing motion when you're on a
you know, doing a Swedish massage. And you know there's also uh,

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you know, mobilization massages, andthat's where you're focusing on the spine and
the joints and the muscles to improvemobility. There's a lot of stretching that's
involved with that, um you know, connective tissue. That's when we're really
working on that fashion like we've talkedabout a lot of times before, and
these are really focusing on your connectivetissues like your ligaments and your tendons and

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where they're connecting in with those joints. We've talked about lymphatic massage deep tissue.
So again this one gets kind ofconfused a lot of times, um
you know deep tissue and my esfacialare very very very similar. But my
essacial work focuses specifically on trigger pointso that are developed through your body.

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And these are points they're also calledacupressure point, but they are points that
develop. You can map them,I mean like everybody has them. They're
very specific points and muscle tissue thatwhen they become inflamed, everything tightens up
pretty significantly. Um trigger point isreally great for my grain, my grain
work, and it's also really greatfor you know, have you ever woken

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up in the morning and you're like, oh, geez, I flaps on
my neck wrong and you can't fairlytrigger point is great for that because there's
a trigger point that or two thatare inflamed in that point, and it's
from a sustained position, you know, for too long. So turner point
would be great for that. Butalso we'd mix in various different things.

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But deep tissue is it's it's strongpressure that applies to reach deeper layer of
muscles. So muscles are all layeredon top of each other. There are
many many layers to one single muscle, and then they're also muscles under that
muscle, so you have superficial musclesand then you have deep muscles, so
deep tissue, and so the namegoes and it's looking to reach those deeper,

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deeper layers to realign those muscles andthat fashia because fashia is really sticky
m it's like spider webbing. Itcovers everything in your body and it is
a really strong, really sensitive connectivetissue and so it can get tangled up
and it cantens the muscle and itcan you know, restrict movement and it
can press against nerve endings and thingslike that. So fashia is really,

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really, really important, and that'ssomething that we focus on a lot.
How many guests that you probably ishas happened before. Somebody's come in for
a therapyt of massage for a specificreason and maybe they've never had a massage
before, but they think everything islike you mentioned the sweetest massage, which
is the most popular, but becauseof what they're there for, it requires
something different and they may think,well, this isn't the massage that I'm

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aware of. That's got to happen, right, Yeah, it happens a
lot. And you know, wework with our clients like you know,
there's people always laugh because you know, we encourage you to talk to us
during your session. We're gonna alot of times talk with you because of
the integrative way that we do things, So we want you to understand what

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we're doing. Now, if you'vesomebody that come in a bunch of times
before and everything, you've got apretty good idea. But if it's your
first time coming in with us,yes, and especially if you're really new
to massage, we're going to makesure that you understand what we're doing and
why we're doing it, because educatingour clients is one of the most important

(32:59):
things that we can do, becauseeverybody empowering people to take better care of
themselves creates a healthier community. Absolutely, so that's that's something that we really
strive towards, you know. Andof course if somebody comes in and they're
like, I don't want you totalk to me today, we altely.
We don't make offense of that atall. Sometimes people just really do need

(33:19):
to distress and they don't, youknow, and that's fine. Yeah,
yeah, Well, since I changethe topic on you and we've got about
a minute left here, quickly,what when do the rocks come in to
play? What are they for?So hot stones are a thermal treatment,
and the heat, of course helpsto relax out muscles, and it also
is really great producing circulation, sowe typically will use those as sort of

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an enhancement to what we're doing.I personally use hot stones in almost every
treatment that I give, whether it'sbeforehand because I'm going to go real deep
and I need to kind of loosenup those upper layers and get some good
circulation going, or it's host medoing something. So if I've gone you
know, pretty deep and everything,and I'm like, you know, I'm

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going to be really nice for asecond, and I want to like warm
this and love on it and youknow, make it feel a little bit
better. But that blood circulation alsohelps to heal, you know, tissue
that may be damaged and things likethat. So if we're going in and
we're you know, really working deep, that blood coming to that can really
help that tissue feel better. Itmakes sense, Aaron. Thanks as always,

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It's Massage Mechanics. How can folksreach out to you to set up
an appointment? So the best wayto do it is to go online to
our website which is www dot MassageMechanics sc dot com. We have a
booking app there that you can goon. You can see all of our
schedules, or you can call ouroffice eight oh three five two zero six

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two nine one up. So weusual leave a voicemail if we don't grab
it because we probably have our handson a client. But we're, like
you said before, we're located inLexington and we're just really happy to help
as many people as we've been ableto. It's been awesome. Yeah,
I know it has, all right, Aaron, thank you so much.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.Absolutely, Gary, you do the same,
I certainly do intend to. Allright, Thanks again. I say

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this all the time, but I'mI'm always amazed every time we stay that
and talk with Aaron about all ofthe benefits that you can can get from
a therapeutic massage. It really isamazing. All right, Thank you Aaron
and Jim who is with us afew minutes ago talking about letter protection and
the pros and cons of that.If you're injured in an accident and don't

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really have the money for those medicalbills yet you're waiting for a settlement,
you're between a rock and hard place, right all right, Still to come,
We'll be right back with Mike Brown. Mike is the new owner of
Molly made here in the Midlands andwhere it is. He's got a special
he's gonna lay out on us aswell, so stand by for that.
Next it's the Health and Whaler Showon one h three point five FM and

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That's eight z row three seven threeone twelve twelve or go to mollymade dot
com. Welcome back to the HellaBona Show on one of three point five

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FM and five sixty eight m wBOC. They started voice point are you
in the final segment as we welcomein Mike Brown, Welcome, I want
a point to do. Fairly newowner, fairly new Gary about Molly Made.
Good to see you again, brother, Good to see you. Thanks
for having us our pleasure. Wefirst sat down a couple of weeks ago

(38:34):
talking about the service at Molly Made, which I didn't know this you you
enlightened us as to where that nameactually comes from. It does. It's
actually the British term for a maid, Molly Molly, now Molly. I
never knew that. I didn't either, and it's Molly Made, not Molly
Maids. That's correct. I madethat mistake about a dozen times. I
have to and I've been corrected manytimes myself. We we we discussed a

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few weeks back the process and whatthe services y'all offer, and and also
just in general just the importance ofa clean home man um For example,
as I mentioned, my wife,she's a stickler. I'm a guy you
know, I'm a guy whatever,but she's one of these that is a

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stickler for a house being clean.And I've mentioned her the other day that,
yeah, we're kind of an anomalreally I think, uh, you
know you listening, you may bea stickler for a clean home too.
But I've mentioned how often we'll gosomewhere and visit somebody and I and it
doesn't occur to me at the timenecessarily, but until we get back home,
I go, oh, wow,wow, my wife, this is

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great. Uh. Not saying Idon't pitch, you know a bit,
but well, the truth of thematter is, again, I'm a guy,
I've been for for her, theplace wouldn't look like it does right
now. But most and for alot of folks, it's just a question
of time. That's right time.You know a lot of busy professionals,
young families with new children, theyjust can't keep up. They need a

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little help. And there's clean andthen there's clean. That's right. Um.
And with with the money made experience, I know you told us a
couple weeks, it starts with thatvery first visit. We call the initial
deep clean. Deep clean. It'swhere we get all your old dirt,

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so then we can start to maintainyour new dirt. Your death can take
a while. Yes, yeah,I look at my my parents. My
dad will be ninety one next month, my mom will be uh she's closing,
gonna ninety herself. And yeah,I in a situation like that,

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I mean, a service like thisis perfect. It really is. We
have a lot of senior clients,um that not only need a little help
around house, but they also likea little company having our teams come by
and yeah, you know, maybedo a little you know, help them
around the house with something extra.But justum, knowing they're going to come
by on a regular basis, itmakes them happy all around. Sure,

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no, no, what is thatregular basis? Yeah, they can choose,
I mean, how does this Absolutelywe have all kinds of different services.
We have a weekly service, wehave every other week service, and
we have a monthly service. Butthen if you don't want to be on
a regular schedule, we also doyou know, one time cleans. A
lot of times moving out we needto clean, moving in, you want
your new house clean, or specialoccasion cleaning, so we can cover you

(41:35):
any any scenario you may have.Now, um, again, as you
mentioned, and this is the importance. It's kind of like when we on
the other show, on the HomeImprovement show, we talk to Trey Pallo
or Mosquito Joe. Yeah, andhe was on with us earlier this morning.
Um, and with a mosquito forexample, they could come out and
do a one time spray and knockoff a bunch of mosquitoes, but it's
much more effective when they come outon a thing every three weeks as they

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do. This is the same kindof thing. That's right, that's right,
and you know, the more timeswe come out, the better it's
going to be. And it's alsoa little cheaper because we're all we're not
going to have a lot of thatolder dirt to catch up with. It's
funny you mentioned mosquito Joe and thepest because we've ben't run into a lot
of this lately, coming into homesthat have a serious pest problem. In

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South Carolina, we have roaches,fruit flies, bed bugs, and it's
becoming a considerable problem. And it'sthat's from not maintaining your home and that's
when those pests can start to grabhold and create a problem. So having
that regular maintenance is a good wayto eliminate and not allow those pests to

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call themselves to call your home theirhome. Right right, And again you
got a surface clean, then yougot below the surface guy, and this
is this is where the bug problemcomes in. Yeah, the house might
look clean, it might um,but there are things, for example,
on that that first deep clean oneof the one of the things that you
all looking forward and what are youattacking? I mean one are the things
that we may not think of onour regular daily basis as home. What

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we like to think of is calledtop down cleaning. So we're gonna start
at the top where all those moldingsup there, that from the ceiling to
the wall, where the cobwebs startto build, the places that you can
never reach to clean. And thenwe move our way down to the baseboards,
so everything in between we're gonna dustand clean pictures, furniture down to
the base boards. Uh. Andthen you know we're going to then with

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a microfiber system dust get all thatbacteria that's building up in the dust off
the furniture. Uh. Then we'regonna do a vacuum upholstery floors, and
then a microfiber three step mop processfor all your floors. Well, oh,
so we're gonna be able to getall that unseen bacteria that causes illnesses,

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that could create a mold problem,and it eliminates allergies and just creates
a better wellness environment for everybody.That's a big problem. Run here to
the allergy it is. It is, absolutely and a lot of that I
think probably maybe I don't know quickif I'm wrong, comes from old Absolutely,
yeah, right, we know that'sgot serious ramifications for a lot of

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folks, right, And you don'talways see that though, Right, you
don't see it. And you knowa lot of times that you know starts
in the showers, one of themost commonplaces, but then it can build
up anywhere. So we use productsto at least kill that mold and keep
it maintained. And you know,I never really thought of the health and

(44:30):
wellness benefits of a clean home.I really started, you know, getting
into some of the research behind it. I always thought having a nice maid
service was just a convenience, Butthere's just so many benefits to the health
and wellness of your family having aregular cleaning service. Absolutely. I want
to go back for a second.You mentioned a three step mop process.
Yeah, yeah, I know what'sthat all about. Well, we first

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have to vacuum and get all theall the dirt and tidbits off the floor,
and then we you will use awet mop with our solution uh to
microfiber mop the floor proprietary. Absolutely, we use a single microfiber mop reach

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room, so we're not going tocamp you absolutely. You know you see
those old the janitor mops where theyring out in the bucket and that cross
contaminates. Would you want that samemop in your bathroom as in your kitchen?
Of course not right, So we'regoing to change out those mop hits
every room to eliminate any cross contaminations. Good idea. Once we then mop

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the floor with our solutions, thenwe'll come back by with another dry microfiber
mop then then dry that so there'sno streaks, no stickiness residue, which
a lot of I have a lotof complaints from other cleaning companies. Hey,
you're my floors are sticky? What'swrong there? And that's just simply
the cleaning companies not deluting their productscorrectly and then not doing that third step.
It's kind of like you know,if you're if your neighbor's got a

(45:58):
lot of weeds in there yard.You don't want somebody uting your yard with
the same law more they cut theiryard with. Obviously something's wrong there,
Gary. Yeah, so that againthe deep clean you're looking at things like
well again, it's the things wedon't normally think about, maybe like the
like the who's that trim up atthe top right there? As such,
I'm gonna guess a lot of timesprobably spending in places like the bathroom,

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in the kitchen, that's yeah,absolutely, bathroom, the kitchen, you
know, you know, maybe youhave to get into the oven. We
haven't cleaned the oven in a longtime. How about the refrigerator. Um,
you know, we always want tohit the inside outside the microwaves,
that's where it gets used the mostand splatters and things like that. We
do inside and out every visit.And uh, you know, then you've
got to disinfect and sanitize all thosesurface areas, which you know, throwing

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some wind as on or throwing someyou know some some store ball cleaning solution
doesn't have the dwell time, whichmeans the product's not sitting on the surface
long enough to kill these scary diseases. Like it or you know, any
other kind of virus or bacteria.So our products have a quicker dwell time,

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which means we're going to kill thosethose bad, harmful things faster and
more effectively than any kind of storeballproducts, because let's face it, I
mean, none of us are wipingoff a countertop and then letting it sit
and sit and sit right, reallydo what that cleaner could do before we
wipe it off for example of that, No, no, you don't have

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time. You wouldn't even think ofit. If you're using a mister Clean
product. I'm just you know,pulling one off the shelf. Sure you
know it very conveniently says on thebottle kills ninety nine point nine percent of
bacteria or viruses. What they don'ttell you is it has to sit there
wet forever thirty minutes, you're kidding, yeah, minutes, thirty minutes.
So no one's going to put thaton the thirty seconds exactly. And that's

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just that's kind of just misleading tothe consumer. Any other little uh secret
industry insider tips you can that,Oh my gosh, I tell you there's
you know, I'll trying to getall all trade secrets. Yeah, but
I mean just just kind of somehelpful you know, do it yourself kind
Yeah, what's kind of fun fromI've kind of created my own home as
my little laboratory where I like toexperiment with different products, different cleaning techniques.

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I travel the country. I justgot back from Chicago, uh out,
you know, meeting with other cleaningprofessionals, and I live to tell
about it. Um the dwell timewas short, nobody got sick. Uh
and just learn little tidbits from uhprofessionals around the country. Um more.
You know, what, what arethe best products in the line. You

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know, there's a big debate aboutgreen cleaning versus you know, you know,
are these harmful to my family usingthese kind of other solutions that wouldn't
be classified as green, And that'sjust not true. We've survived all these
years absolutely green products, right,Yeah, you know, And there's this
old sayning in the business that greendoesn't clean. And sometimes you're going to

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need a little something stronger. Butwe want to make sure that it's pet
and family friendly, so we don'tuse anything that would be harmful to our
families. So you don't have toworry about getting kids or pets out of
the house. Well, absolutely not. Nope. I'd say you have to
move around a little bit while you'retrying to get the job, but we
have got to banish him to theoutdoor. We have customers that their their

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pets are right there with us.We've got all kinds that we have.
We have clients with parrots, dogs, cats, ferrets, you name it,
we do it. This is alittle touchy, yeah, but I'm
sure you run into the situation,you know, because you know, we
talk about a clean home and notclean out, but then you have those
homes where it's bordering on borders.Yeah, which probably you probably don't really

(49:45):
get called into homes like that withsomebody who maybe keeps their house like that.
But I'm supposed that there may besituations where you go in to clean
a home and there are some impedimentslike that and some things you got to
work around. I guess you haveto have that kind of that conversation at
a point with a home. Absolutely, and that you know, in a
true horder situation that becomes more ofa mental illness. Yeah, absolutely,

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that the cleaners need to be trainedon how to handle that situation. Um,
it's actually quite common and we getthose calls all the time. Um.
You know, in that kind ofa case, we have to we
have to rely on some of oursome of our strategic relationships in the market
and you know, maybe somebody thatcan help haul things out. Maybe maybe
we need a professional organizer to comein and help. And we have all

(50:29):
those experts, um that we workwith, and because it's hard for our
cleaning companies to come in if you'vegot you know, ten years of things
piled up in the corner. Um. So we do rely on these other
relationships to help help clients through thoseissues. You know, those situations where
you're not talking about a hoarder,but I mentioned my parents early for example.

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They yeah, they've been around fora long time now, you know,
and they've built up stuff over theyears. Really, you know,
I mean, let's just say clutter. Yeah, you know, sometimes you
just have to I guess kind ofhave those conversations like we're gonna get you
clean here, but you know,it could be helpful if we could kind

(51:12):
of do this or do that.Yeah. We actually have a case today
with a lady who's a caretaker fora mother who has unfortunately Alzheimer's and she's
been collecting a lot of things andshe just needs help. And she's like,
I don't have time. I havea full time job. I'm her
full time caretaker, and can youplease help us? So we're gonna send

(51:32):
a team in to help her kindof organize and get caught up. She
has family coming in next week,so she's like, I got to get
the house in order for visitors.So we're like, you know what,
let's go help her. Sometimes that'sa little bit out of our scoop of
work, but we like to tryto get the extra mile to help clients
if we can. Full that's beautiful, all right. So it all starts

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with the first deep clean, andI think you want to lay out a
special on this one, don't you. We are today for all the listeners,
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