"Superman" is BETTER than you thought! CEO inspired cheating comeuppance movies and more!

On this week's episode: James and Jamie dive deep into "Superman" spoilers and rebut criticism! Inspired by the alleged cheating CEO, looking at movies where cheaters get their comeuppance, AMC pulls favorite movie theater snack, and more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Hub on Hollywood and iHeartRadio podcast. I'm
your co host James Rojas, and.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm the other co host, Jamie Blanco.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Nailed it on this week's episode. Hey buddy, here we
are diving deep into the new Superman movie with full
on spoilers. This was quite the ride, and I'm ready
to talk about every little awesome thing about it and
every critique that is wrong about it. Yeah, take them down,

(00:37):
taking everybody down. Speaking of taking people down, Coldplay catching
a CEO allegedly cheating at his concert with someone who
is not his wife, which has inspired us to look
into movies where cheaters get their come uppance. I think
it's a very fun.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Or get caught, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Or get caught or you know, yeah things things don't
end well for those people.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And of course what we're watching. But first, Jamie, Jamie,
Jamie has a big bone to pick with big AMC
theater chains.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Right, James, you know how movie theaters are trying to
not go out of business.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yes, I do know that. Yeah, we take the wrong decision.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We talk about it a lot, right, And how has
AMC been doing with that?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
They?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Not?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Right? No, noo.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Between the you know forty five minutes of commercials now
the insurance ads and trailers ahead of the movies. And
I want to go see Superman. You want to go
see Superman. And whenever I go to the theater, I
have to have like my go to snacks, my go
to drinks, like you know, that's what gets me into
the theater. It's part of the experience, is part of

(01:52):
what I love most.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's a treat that goes along with the with a
great movie.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Exactly, absolutely, So what do you think that AMC did
to to reward their loyal fans, and they are loyal
AMC moviegoers.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
What do you think they did? Did they do they
install new couch cushions?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Did they rain in crazy movie theater talkers and people
who act disruptive?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, I'll give you hands. It involves a knife to
the back. Oh okay, stabbing their fans in the back.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
This might be I can say, knives out, the knives
are great. Movie, You're back.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
He might recognize these hands. But listen, James listening. The
curly fries, the curly change the menu. They changed the menu.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I feel like people are not talking enough about this injustice,
about this travesty about this betrayal.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It is a betrayal.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
AMC. Again, we love you like in aery. Apparently we
are both AMC stub Hub members. We want you to succeed.
We're giving you advice, and you, you folks, are not listening.
Listen up, listen up. You're going in the wrong direction.
So what are my curly fries? So so, so what
do they? What do they do? Because we both experienced this,

(03:17):
We both experienced this, both like the curly exactly because
I like to go all out when I get movie theaters.
I turned into a monster. That's I'm so glad the
lights turn off low because I don't want anybody to
see me because I get my my impossible nuggets, which
are bombed. If you lose those nuggets, I don't know
what I'll do. And then I want to dig into
my curly fries, big old box of curly fries, my

(03:38):
my large soda and and all that stuff. I'm like
a I'm like a griblin or like a gnome, just
like yeah in the dark. And and so I went
recently like yourself, to to go see a movie and
one impossible orders please, and one order of curly fries please.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh sorry, we only have waffle fries.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now, who do you call them waffle fries or are
they cris cut fries? Cross criss cross, criss cross, criss cross,
criss cross fry.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I've never heard them cold criss.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, I call them waffle fries, but I heard, I
think I've heard. Unless I'm having a stroke, they can
go by chris cut. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's hard to say.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Curly fries is so easy to say.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, and they're delicious and they're fun right because you've
got the big curls and the little curls and I.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Always see sometimes you get that rogue monster curl. It's
just like a rope of curly fry. Those are the best,
and you, like.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Savior, do you do this or am I just insane
where you save like your favorite curl, your favorite curly fry.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
For the end?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I do, just because you have to have the best.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Of course it depends though, so see setting does matter
because if you are in a movie theater for a while,
then like, okay, maybe you want you don't want that
one to get cold because they're gonna be sitting down
for a while. So there's there's some strategy, but no
longer do we need to worry about this, no.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Longer taking it away from us. And here's my here's
my other bone to pick.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, I get it.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You want to update the menu. You want to be
like cooler and have more options. Fine, have waffle fries
on the menu. Cool, but don't take the curly fries away.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You think they're more expensive, Like how much more? How
much money are you saving by not going curly and
going Chris cut or waffle fries?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
But like, what was there like a consensus? Did they
do market research? Was there a protest like why waffle
fries over curly? Like I needed to be a part
of that market research because I would have like, you know,
burned the conference table down and be like, no, curly
fries are here to stay, and now what where can

(05:41):
I get my curly fries? The only place I can
do go get my curly fries is Hooters. Okay, And
everybody thinks that likes I'm like a proverb or whatever
because I go to her. I go to Hooters for
the curly fries. I really like Hooters.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
No one invites me, No one invites me to go
to Hooters. So the thing is as a California guy,
You guys don't have Jack in the box over here.
If you do, you know, have you heard of so that? Yeah,
in California they have Jack in the boxes everywhere. And
their curly fries. I will take over McDonald's fries over
in and out fries over any other fries out there,

(06:20):
because they're so gush darn good. Yeah, and so over here. Yeah.
The closest equivalent to that was the AMC curly.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Fries popular, So why eliminate them entirely?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
So this is our public service announcement. Are our free
advice to AMC again. I know we want you to
stay in business. You're making decisions. You think maybe our
logical and good business moves. Let me tell you right now,
they're not. Get rid of the those extra commercials and
and and ads in movie theaters before the movie. And

(06:52):
also bring back the curly.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Fries hashtag, curly fries.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Matter hashtag or something.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, back back the curly, bring back the curl, bring
back the curls, save the curls, save the world.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, So we're going to start all of those hashtags.
We're gonna make this happen. You know what, else you
shouldn't do.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
What should you not do?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
You should not if you are at a concert out
in public with your mistress with your side piece, allegedly allegedly. Okay,
h no, I think he came up with a statement
and everything admitting it. But still and the kiss camra
is on. You think you might like, hey, let's separate
for a minute here, let's not stand so close together. No, no, James, No,

(07:40):
you know what you shouldn't do? What what this CEO
guy did in Boston at the Boston Cold Play concert.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I have the correct pass because folks, some folks in
the newsroom are taking issue with national media calling it
getting busted in Boston. It's in Foxborough. It's at your
Lette stadium. I know, I know for us, for us,
you know, I understand, or you know, or for people
that are outside. You know, Boston is the biggest city nearby.
So people say, oh, it happened in Boston. Folks in
the newsroom they're like, can you believe it's no, it's Foxborough.

(08:10):
To be easy, to be technical, but yes, in the
in the Boston area will be yeah, yeah, we'll be
loose with that. But yeah, so apparently this this CEO
of what was astronomer astronomy astronomer. I didn't even know
what they do. They do something with like data. Yeah,
the the main CEO allegedly got busted on the jumbo

(08:32):
tron on the biggest of screens in the world by
Chris by Chris Martin. Yeah, it was like, yeah, the
kiss cam and then it shows them to and then
like they're in full embrace canodling, and then you know
the moment, you see the moment exactly when they realize,
oh shoot, and then the guy just dives into like

(08:54):
the dives on the floor and then the woman just
like turns around, like the memes are in saying on
this like somebody did the Homer Simpson backing into the bushes.
I had an idea of, like, you know when Ralph Wigham,
like when Lisa breaks his heart for Valentine's Day and
Bart's replaying it on the TV. It's like, right, here's

(09:14):
where you see his heartbreak. That's like, this is right here.
You know they they're they are and so this is insane.
Everybody loves a billionaire getting busted for doing bad stuff,
and this is one bad thing of many things that
they are accused of doing so, Yeah, the internet's having
a heyday about this. So we figured, hey, let's let's

(09:36):
make the most let's make the most of this this uh,
this event and talk about the bit to make it
relatable to the podcast, of course, and so why not
talk about movies where characters get the karma they deserve,
movie cheaters get the karma they deserve. I have a
good list. I feel like we may have overlapped on
some of these. I haven't checked yours, you haven't checked mine,

(09:56):
But I'll go with I think what many people, especially
if you grew up or were alive in the nineties,
would would think of. First is the First Wives Club?
First Wives Club? Yeah, Starrying Goldiehan I love Goldiehan Bett, Middler,
Diane Keaton, Sarah, Jessica Parker, and Maggie Smith. It's about
after being reunited by the death of a college friend.

(10:18):
It's three divorced women seek revenge on the husbands who
left them for younger women. So that's like a nineties classic.
It's such a good, good movie. And I remember a
movie that my parents would replay like like on repeat
on VHS because like it's it's one of those fun again,
you know, people getting their come up ins and and women,

(10:38):
you know, standing up for themselves and getting the last laugh.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, see, I feel like I've picked some movies that
were like cheaters getting caught but maybe not necessarily getting
their come up ins.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Okay, this is so this is a diverse list.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Is yeah, this is a diverse list.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
You're like, this is actually a list of word cheater
is actually a win at the very end, and you're
rooting for we misunderstood the assignment.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
But American Beauty. I don't know if that's on your list.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I know, I know it's considered on the lists, but
that one I actually haven't seen.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
No, Okay, it's really disturbing.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I've heard the disturbing things about it. Yeah, I feel
that alone.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes, Kevin Spacey, oh my god, doing his kid Kevin
Spacey thing and just the whole movie like over sexualizing
the high school friend, the girl you know who's friends
with his daughter, and it's just h yeah, it's very,
very creepy. And at the end he gets his come
upp and does he not He's I don't know, Yeah,

(11:45):
things go badly for him at the end.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Is that the one where the plastic bag is blowing
in the wind, and then they're like, that's that's the
real American beauty.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know if that was like from a parody.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Maybe I think that was from That's the real American
beauty right there. That's what else is on your American
A classic, A classic comedy from the from the two thousands,
Forgetting Sarah Marshall. One of the when I talk about
movie experiences, like great movie theater experiences, Forgetting Sarah Marshall

(12:19):
was one where I remember the entire movie theater just
laughing their asses off. It was such a good movie,
great comedy, of course. The story follows a devastated Peter
played by Jason Siegel. He takes a Hawaiian vacation in
order to deal with the recent breakup with his TV
star girlfriend Sarah Marshall played about Kristen Bell. However, Sarah

(12:41):
is traveling to the same resort as her exes and
bringing along her new boyfriend. It stars Mila Cuna's and
Paul Rudd as well and Jonah Hill. It's a hilarious movie,
like solid comedy.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I remember, do you remember the advertising for this? For
this the campaign for the movie, No, I don't so.
I was in LA at the time, so two thousand
and eight, driving around like probably my internship, so driving
through Hollywood and stuff, and and there were there were
billboards that just said I hate you Sarah Marshall and everywhere,
and like at this point, no trailers were out, just
like just billboards and signs and posters everywhere where. It

(13:20):
looks like somebody hand wrote, like in big letters like
I hate you Sarah Marshall, and everyone's like, who the
hell is Sarah Marshall. And then sure enough, Latela, we
found out this is a movie campaign and it was
It was brilliant because people were talking about it, right.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I love that real quick question, Jane, Yes, quick questions. Okay,
there's a movie that just popped up in my mate
in my brain. I love how you're so prepared and
I'm not, like not at all.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Go on, Julia Gulia.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Julia Gulia, Like, okay, Adam Sandler movie.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, Drew Barrymore, Oh yeah, wedding Singer fifty fifty first States. No, no,
they were, they're both in it. Fifty firsts Okay, yeah,
the wedding singer.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yes, but I'm thinking about the wedding so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you know, he's in love with Julia, and Julia
is marrying the dude whose last name is Gulia. He
read Julia Gulia, and he's cheating on her. He's cheating
on her the whole time. Adam's character finds out and he's,

(14:23):
you know, desperately in love with her. He thinks that, okay,
well she wants money, she wants all of these things,
and they sort of go back and forth. But true
love wins out. Of course, true love wins out. Bad
guy gets exposed. So that's a really good one and
full of heart. And I love the wedding singer.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
So I've probably seen it once and it was like
twenty five years ago, so like I know little to
nothing about it or remember. I just know like a
couple of scenes. What's his name is in it? I'm
forgetting his name, but he's like the heavier set guy.
He's a very famous comedian. But I'm blanking on his name.
But yeah, I need to rewatch that movie. Watch he's
gonna make a wedding scene.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Her part two like Happy Gilmore too, exactly Happy Gilmore
Part two coming out filmed here in New England, so
be sure to check that out. We had casting calls
for it here on the Hub on Hollywood. So that's
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Speaker 1 (16:09):
Here, So, of course we have the classic fatal attraction.
When anybody thinks about a cheating movie gone wrong, this
is as worse as bad as it gets. Fatal attraction.
A married man's one night stand comes to it comes
back to haunt him when that lover begins to stalk
him and his family. Starring Michael Douglass and Glenn Close.

(16:31):
Nothing more to say. It's just a If you haven't
seen the movie, watch it. It will give you nightmares
and make you cuddle your rabbits, your pet rabbits even more.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, but your mistress now your mistress exactly. So I
just a couple of honorable mentions here for me. Broke
Back Mountain, Okay, Broke Back Mountain.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, that's such a weird movie to think about because
they're both cheating on their their girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Or wives and their spouses.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
But you're also like, you're rooting for them because they're
gay men in a in a in an area in
a time where it's really bad and dangerous and wrong
quote you know, for the community to be gay, and
so you like seeing them being open and finally being
who they are. At the same time, that's that's still

(17:22):
still cheating. That's terrible.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
The same time they're still hurting everyone around them. Yeah,
you know, I always I will always remember the scene
where the wife.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Catches them, the window scene.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, roa out and it's like, what do you even do?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Your eyes just melt in that at that point and
just fall back. Oh my god, You're.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Just like, well, I'm just gonna pretend that never happened.
But yeah, it's one of those where you're actually like
rooting for them because they don't one of them die.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, at the end, which one, Heather or.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Jake it wasn't it was Heath Keith dies and then
Jake is like comes around to the families like, you know,
I want something to remember him vibe.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
They're like, no, God damn, get out of here. He's like,
I just wanted bell buckle. I was near his belt.
I was very familiar with his bell buckle, if you
know what I mean. I know why he'sund like Ford there,
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
But also on that vein, on that vein Titanic.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yes, yes, technically it's a cheating that Rose is cheating
on her fiance.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
But she doesn't want to be a fiance.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, the thing is also it's a weird thing because
she's not in the relationship willingly, because her mom is
the one who's kind of really is setting this up
and pressing her to marry him because they, unknownst to,
unbeknownst to everybody else, Rose and her mom are basically poor.
Like they're putting on this facade of like, oh, we're
still a high class society, but we really need your

(18:49):
Rose to you know, pull one for the you know,
take one for the team and and marry this guy
who's who was a jerk, handsome dude, rich and hanson
but also a jerk and uh narcissah for me, for me, daughter,
please do that for me. And so that's a weird.
That's a weird on the technical level, it's cheating, but

(19:10):
the Rose is also being cheated out of her life. Yeah,
and her choice.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That's right. So maybe the cheaters that got their come
up and were the ones who were cheating Rose out
of her future and her life. Yeah, and her freedom.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, so there we go. Take that Rose's mom.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, Titanic'll come and get you.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Speaking about sinking and water, well, that is beneath the
Harrison Ford movie. Michelle Pfeiffer, the horror film I believe
it came out in nineteen nineteen ninety nine or if
not two thousand and one, round that era. But the
wife of a university research scientist believes her lakeside Vermont
home is haunted by a ghost or that she's losing

(19:50):
her mind, starring Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer. One of
my favorite Harrison Ford movies of all time and one
of like my if you made me put a top
fifteen list of my favorite scary movies, this would be
on that list. That's so good. Harrisonport's character real jerk
in this film. But also I don't want to spoil
it because it's such a good movie, but it's been

(20:11):
out forever, like but the thing is, yeah, I know,
but like the twist of him being like a loving
and a trusted husband to like, oh your the devil?
Oh yeah, so like so this is a good movie.
While lies beneath? Should I just finish my list yet?
My list?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Harry Good Double Jeopardy another. I love this movie. I
haven't seen any years, but I remember years ago watching
it like so many times. This stars Ashley Judd, Tommy Lee,
Jones Bruce Greenwood Libby played by Ashley Judd. She's convicted
of murdering her husband, Nick, whom she later discovers faked
his death and framed her. Her husband was actually cheating

(20:54):
on her with with the actually Judd's best friend in
that film. And so when after spending time in prison
for allegedly killing her husband, she eventually gets released because
it's one of those murders, right, the body's never found,
and so like you go and hold her for so long,
and when she gets out, she realizes, this guy's freaking alive,
and you framed me and put me in prison. So

(21:15):
her plan is to actually murder him again, murder him again,
and she can't be convicted because that would be count
that would count as double jeopardy, and you cannot be
convicted twice for the same crime. I think the real
lawyers have talked about this and said, technically, that's not
exactly how this will work. But in the movie it
makes perfect sense and you just go along with it.
It's perfect So double jeopardy, Go murder if you haven't

(21:36):
if you've murdered and been framed for it. Before my
last cheating movie where people get their comeupp ins Star Wars. Yeah,
hear me out, hear me out.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Emperor Palpatine basically cheats on Darth Vader in the end
by bringing Luke in, hoping Luke will kill Vader and
replace him as his own apprentice. But Vader he ain't
having that. So Palpatine cheated on Darth Vader. Yeah, and
try to bring in them much younger. What Potter Skywalker

(22:08):
into the picture.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
What the hell are you talking? What what are you
saying about Vader here?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying they had a
type of relationship, a partnership. You could say, there are partners,
not lovers per se. But there was cheating there. That's
a that's a a Sith and his apprentice. That's a
real relationship. And imagine breaking that by by by trying
to bring in a new apprentice to replace them. That

(22:34):
counts as cheating.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
And it's his son.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
And yeah, ye, think about it, guys, think about it.
Don't think about it too hard, think about it long
and hard.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh god, oh my gosh, that's just never mind. You're
you're you haven't been to the Star Wars burlesque? No, no, no,
But I've been several times. Yeah, and there's there's a
part at the end where Palpatine is comes in swinging
on a wrecking ball. But the wrecking ball is like
his giant testicals.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's art. So yeah, if you wait, wait, giant testicles.
I was imagining it would be the Death Star.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
No, no, that would probably make more sense.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
That would make way more sense.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It's a burlesque film.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Okay, still, okay, I guess, okay, sure the.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Balls to like cheat on Vader, don't, don't, Jamie.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
This is going in a good direction and then you
just come in with swinging balls and uh taking us
off track again not sexual, not sexual, but uh okay anyways, Hey,
comment down below. What is your favorite movie cheater getting
their come up in film? Out there? Comment? And uh,
compare with ours?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
And what do you think about? Uh, dude Ski Ceo
who got caught on the JumboTron. Honestly, if they hadn't
had that extreme reaction.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, no one would notice. No one would look at
it twice I care.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Nothing would have happened.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Because people film those jumbotrons all the time and then
they just look at him and delete them because like, okay,
what I don't care. Somebody somebody was saying, man that
LinkedIn his LinkedIn page is going to be on fire
for a bit.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, I'm sure. I think they got rid of a
lot of their social media is maybe make a movie.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Do you think do you think if the CEO moves
a different company and he's interviewed for it, you know,
when they ask you, tell me when has when have
you ever you know, faced an obstacle or challenge and
and overcome it at work, it's like, well, yeah, I
got caught cheating with the HR with the head of
HR and and he.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Had he had the nerve in his statement. I don't
know if you saw to like sort of quasi blame
Chris Martin, dude, like violating the privacy.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Concert you if that's accurate. That's if that's accurate.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
You that's the only appropriate response to Wow. Anyways, you
know what we're.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Not saying, you two what Superman?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Superman was fantastic, fantastic. He is the model for goodness,
the American way, he's the human way, the human way,
and he's a you know, he's a one lady guy.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, Loyle, Dude, that was one of the best moments
of the the the entire movie, like Lois Lane and
Clark KNT slash Superman having that that interview in the apartment,
that was fantastic. There's so many fantastic things about this movie.
I will say, like, you know, it's not a perfect
movie quote, but it's a I would say near perfect

(25:44):
Superman movie.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Okay, Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
It's it's it's it's fantastic. It's mister Fantastic. It's fantastic,
mister Fantastic. The stand mister terrific. This one over here,
mister terrific.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Was the stand up. Look. I am a little bit dyslexic, okay,
so in my mind the tea is an f Okay,
so anytime I see the tea, like, I know it's
a tea.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
But I say f Like and when you see the
actor's face, do you see Pedro Pascal's face? Did you
see Pedro Pescal's face on every Man? You're like, that's Pedro,
That's Petro.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Every man, woman and child. I see Pedro everywhere. So yeah,
I may or may not have texted him like, oh
my god, mister Fantastic was so amazing in Superman.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Not only that you said, don't you love the quote
or something, but you said, I'm mother in mister fantastic,
And I'm like, I'm pretty sure they did not drop
an F bomb in Superman.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm goddamn mister terrific.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, yeah, so good. And again, no movie is perfect,
but I feel like there are critiques and criticisms being
lobbed at this film and some of the choices. And
I'm here to defend Superman as we all should. Every
body just that Superman because yeah, because he has our back,
and I'm here to have his back. That's what I say.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So James Gunn David Corn sweat all of them.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
All of them. So Superman. The plot, Superman must reconcile
his alien Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as reporter
Clark Kent as the embodiments of truth, justice, and the
human way. He soon finds himself in a world that
views these as old fashioned. Again, overall, not perfect, but
one hundred percent of fantastic Superman movie. It accomplishes everything

(27:31):
that you want. I think they gave audiences everything they
were expecting and things that they were not expecting, and
a little twist turns and everything in between, and and
swishing scene you notice a lot somebody swishing see camera movements.
But yeah, I really enjoyed this film.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I absolutely adored this film. I've already seen it twice.
And I think that the themes of optimism and goodness the
hope in an era where not only is the world
a dark and cynical place, but movies are dark and cynical,
and Superman movies are dark and cynical, I think in cartoons,

(28:13):
and I think that this is just a breath of
fresh air. It's just it's like you're breathing life back
into a character and it's the original essence of that character.
I don't know how Superman got sucked down this like dark.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Road, but from like the Dark Knight stuff, because yeah,
though Tim Burton's Badman was also dark and grittier and whatnot,
and then it really went into more comicy or like
silly cartoony with the other you know, George Clooney or
Bell Kilmer and all the other movie sequels until The
Dark Night. But yeah, so yeah, I think, but I

(28:49):
think The Dark Knight really pushed like people into thinking,
let's make this as real and gritty as possible. So
with the Zack Snyder stuff. They're making it as real
and gritty and even like colorless as possible.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Dark you can't even see the movie. But this is
a bright pop you know, bright poppy, aesthetic, punky, you
might say, But you know what the real punk rock is.
It's that kindness and seeing everything is beautiful and having

(29:21):
that that that that just beautiful outlook on life and
being a good person in the world that we live
in now. To think that that's radical, you know, to
be the optimistic one, to see things as good, to
see people as good.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
And using power for good and strength to belittle or
to take away or diminish.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Or to decide whether or not you're going to use
your power based on whether people deserve it. And I
feel like I watched a really good breakdown of this
James Gunn Superman versus the Zack Snyder Superman, where like
the Zack Snyder Superman takes this, you know, he makes

(30:13):
them very like godlike and christ Like, and a lot
of the conflict around it is whether or not he
should choose to help people, or whether people deserve to
have his power and to have his help, and whether
humanity just deserves to just die. And in this one
it's like he is there to help people because that
is who he is, and that is what he loves,

(30:35):
and that is what makes him get up in the morning,
and he is giving freely of himself. And even when
people hate him right and turn on him in this movie,
he's still doing the right thing, and he's still moving forward,
and he's still giving freely, and he's still he's just
looking for his dog.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, I think, sorry to interrupt, but I think with
Zack Snyder Superman, it's a burden to be Superman, or
it's a burden to be to to choose to help people,
where in James Gunn's version of Superman, it's a gift.
It's a gift to be able to help people.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I love to be Superman, yes, absolutely. And just that
very subtle change in messaging alone, I think is why
this movie is exploding and doing so well. And it's
just something very very beautiful that people are connecting with,
that people are really deeply connecting with from from lines

(31:32):
that are just so so small and so simple but
to mean so much that that punk rock line, you know,
maybe that's the.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Real that's the new punk rock, or the yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
That maybe that's the real punk rock. It's just amazing
how that's become like a lightning rod.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, so many people have gra gravitated. Yeah, ex it
and it's it's true, like it it takes more effort
to I think, be mean, to to c and to
do that, where I think it often is an easier
choice to to to be good and to show kindness
and to show empathy or to allow people to be,

(32:11):
you know, who they are without judgments.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
And exactly because he's very you know, this version of
Superman is who he is. He's kind of naive, he
likes to get Yeah, he's a big blue boy scout,
but you know, he's authentic and he has compassion and sincerity,
which are apparently these very radical things. And he's kind
of a dork, but he's optimistic and and yeah, and

(32:38):
it's just it's really it's really wonderful and delightful. He
is himself, right, he's just being himself, so is mister Terrific.
Mister Terrific is his badass. But at the end of that,
he's he's like mad at people for not being as
smart at.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Him as he's like, you know, exactly, like he's just
tired of everybody not as smart as him. If we
are all smartest me we solve all the problems really quickly.
But you're making it difficult. I this version of Superman
is my favorite live action iteration of Superman. Like David
krn Sweat nailed, absolutely nailed what it means to be Superman.

(33:18):
James Gunn did as well, of course, but like but
in writing it and directing it. But but David corn
Sweat is the was the perfect person for this role.
And the entire cast from the from the Justice Gang
to to Side characters, you know, Jimmy Olsen, Lois Lane,
everybody was cast perfectly. Yea, like you couldn't ask for
like this. I think is there a casting a ward

(33:40):
now with the oscars a frontrunner because there's nobody who
is out of place?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
No, Absolutely, Jimmy what's his name, Jimmy Olsen. I just
love that he's the Riz King. He's like just you know,
he's just a cool, regular guy and somehow he's just
you know, he's pulling all the baddies.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
No, I agree, I agree on the casting. Let's get
through some of your points, yeah, and then I want
to go into like some of the details and talk
about some of the characters because yeah, there's just so
much to get through.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
We'll hop in and out of my mind depending Superman points.
But some people were saying that they didn't like how
the beginning of the movie started started, how it felt
we were entering like the third act of the film,
because when the movie starts, there's the intro of like
three hundred years ago, sup meta meta humans or metahuman
meta humans were first first arrived to Earth thirty years ago. Uh,

(34:38):
the Superman the crash landed on the on the planet
three minutes ago Superman lost his first fight. Yeah, and
then and then so and then we are given the
backstory of like, okay, he just got his his butt
kicked by like Ultraman who turns out to the Ultraman.
And this was after he interfered with another country, attempting
to invade another country, right, so he stopped a and

(35:00):
so people were complaining about like, oh, I would really
have loved to have got the setup because you're kind
of just kind of thrown into like the action and
the story that felt like it began already. This reminded
me of like the The Justice League Unlimited cartoon series
on WB where each each episode sometimes you're like, that
is not always chronological, because there are random episodes throughout

(35:21):
the entire arc of the season or seasons, and sometimes
you're thrown into an episode where you have no idea
who the characters are, who the superheroes are, the villains are.
But you're but you're you're given enough information where you're like, Okay,
this is who you are, you are you are, and
this is what's going on, and you're and you're you're
on the ride and you follow that. And so this
movie reminded me of one of the of many of
those cartoon episodes, which Justice League Unlimited. If you haven't

(35:44):
seen it, watch it. There's a great one of my
favorite iterations or versions about the these characters great stories.
So this felt like that. So I don't I don't
feel like I was missing a beginning of the movie
because we were caught up and we got right into it,
like did you did that bother you?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
No, it didn't bother me all. I actually really liked it.
I enjoy that, and I enjoyed it in the the
new reboots of the Spider Man movies, the Tom Holland
Spider Man, where we're skipping the right exactly, you're you're
skipping the origin story. The only thing that kind of
annoyed me a little bit that that I would have

(36:20):
liked to have seen is that we're walking in on
Clark and Lewis in an already established relationship. I would
have I love watching the beginning of Superman relationships, like
the moment they discover the identity and them getting together, Like,
I really love that stuff. I'm sappy, I love that stuff.
But it's fine. It's fine for what it is. It
doesn't bother me that much that we're dropping in in

(36:42):
the middle of the action because we're going on this
journey right away. We don't. You don't need all that
precursor stuff. It's bloat. It's like, look here we are.
Superman is having a really tough time. And that's what
I loved too, and we talked about this a little
bit before, is this is a human story. This is
a story about Superman being human, and what makes us

(37:05):
human is that we fail, right, is that we fail.
We were sad, we're down. It happens, and we had
to pick back up and keep going. And that's what
I really really really love about where we're starting in
the story here is we're not getting you know, just
him at his highest, We're getting him at his at

(37:27):
his lowest. Like you know, I've I've been this amazing
superhero and now I just got beaten to a pulp,
you know, by this whatever and the dog. So it
is a human story the way that they've told it
and where they've begun it and where they started it.
So whatever, people get over it. That's that's where the

(37:47):
movie starts.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, that's where it started. And I wasn't confused or
lost or felt like I had to get caught up,
like did I miss Like no, they they tell you
what's going on, and so that didn't bother me. I know,
some people said, like, oh, Lex Luth, they're having an
interdimensional prison was hard to believe, and like, no, it's not.
If you was again, it reminded me of like the
The Justice League animated version, because like Lex Luthor and

(38:10):
in that universe, they have all these gadgets. They have
time warp, they have like going through like yeah, dimensions
or teleporting all this other gadgets and like oh yeah,
of course Lex Luthor has a ray gun that can
shoot ice and make you free, like all all this
stuff like, of course he's Lex Luthor. Of course he
has that thing. And so when when they had like

(38:30):
this big interdimensional prison and these kind of teleporting you know,
devices or machines to jump from one place to another, Yeah,
of course Lex Luthor would have that like that. That
didn't bother me at all.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, yeah, no, didn't bother me at all either. I
felt like, and I want, maybe this is on your
list or maybe not, but just you know, since we're
on the topic of Lex Luthor, best.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Nicholas old fan fantastic ever. He was so good the
auditioned to be Superman, but he was perfect as as
Lex like the way he carried himself, his anger, his pompousness,
his like ego. Every he nailed it, nailed it.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Listen this Lex Luthor. I mean, there have been how
many Superman movies iterations shows. I feel like this is the.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Jeez.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I know that was not a good I feel bad,
but I really was afraid of him. I felt like
this Lex Luthor really had a holdover Spider Man. That's
the next crossover. That's the next crossover. He had this

(39:45):
like real power over Superman, and every step of the
way you felt like he can really kill him, he
can really destroy the world, he can really obliterate everyone
that he cares about, like he was actu truly intelligent,
Like he really showcased that he is one of the
most intelligent people on the planet. And instead of using

(40:07):
that for good, he's going to use that to destroy
Superman because he's jealous or envious And that whole scene
at the end where he talks about being envious and
why he does what he does, and then when he
finally gets stopped right and it's like, yeah, Superman is
the good hero that we thought he was, and Lex

(40:28):
just coming to terms with his failure in every possible
way and how he's tearing up and everything, like Nicholas Holt, my.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Goodness, and he got his money.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Okay, he was the highest paying actor on this film.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Oh yeah, for sure, two million for.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Nicholas Holt, while David Corn Sweat and Rachel Rosenbaum Rosenbum
No Brosnahan Brosnahan each got seven to fifty and fifty.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Numbers change.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, but amazing, amazing, amazing Lex.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Luthor, So yeah, that was great. I love that he's
actually in my super Love's list. Also, Another thing that
people were complaining about were saying that the conflict in
the movie with the two countries at odds with each other,
one invading the other, people were saying that it resembled
real world events that we're looking at right now, like
the war in Gaza. James Gunn has said this is

(41:25):
not based on the incidents and Gaza, but to go
back and to counter people being upset like, oh, you're
using something that's similar to what's going on, or people
who believe like what's happening in the real world, like
I just want to watch a movie to escape the
real world and watch them that's fantastical and that's you know,
make believe or whatever. Then if you believe in that stance,

(41:46):
either either because you don't know the history much of Superman,
or you do and you're just trying to make a point,
I think it's wrong because if you look at Superman
through the years, from the comics to television shows to movies,
every current modern day social issue or problem Superman has addressed.
If you go back to the Great Depression era Superman

(42:08):
in the comics, he focused on social problems like unsafe
working conditions and minds, child labor, poor housing, and corruption.
During World War Two, he became a patriotic symbol promoting
war bonds. I'm not sure if he punched Hitler or not,
but you know, he became like an American hero supporting
the war effort. During the civil rights movements, Superman often

(42:31):
confronted white supremacists, including the KKK. He promoted tolerance, acceptance
for diverse groups, and he stood up against intolerance based
on religion, race, and national origin. During the Cold War,
Superman wanted to get rid In one of the Christopher
Reeve movies, he wanted to get rid of all the
nuclear weapons on Earth and he threw them all into
the sun. And that's again during the Cold War where

(42:52):
all the nuke drama and fears were going on. And
then today this movie addresses things like, you know, immigrations, enophobia,
uh being having a more sympathetic stance to immigration. And
so these are just a short list of many other
things that Superman the character has, you know, whatever, writers
have decided to use him to highlight for and to

(43:13):
advocate for, and so to say, oh, this this real world,
this movie is resembling a real world conflict. And I
don't like that when when did you When did you
start not liking that? Because this has been a something
that writers have used Superman for for almost one hundred years.
So I don't agree with that.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Take no, and any good story is based on even
if it's you know, it's fiction. If it's based it's
based on humanity, it's based on history, it's based that's
how you formulate your char as it relates to character exactly.
So they're complaining about nothing. It's the Internet. James Hater's
gonna hate hate, hate, hate hate. We're just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake,

(43:55):
shake exactly, shake them off, super shake them off.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Can you believe this? Next ones people were complaining that
there was too much Crypto, So this is the super Dog.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
This to me sounds like those you know, those monkeys
that they yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what this sounds like
to me. Well, you don't like dogs, now you don't
like dogs.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I love Crypto.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Crypto is like one of the best parts of.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
The wild Card. He's the wild card in the bunch
because yeah, Crypto, we need to follow those balls. Oh no,
he's destroying them. Stop it. And at the end is like, okay, good,
destroy those balls. Those robotic flying things, and so he's
the The funny thing is, so this is one of
my super love or my super fun facts. James Crypto
is based off of James Gun's own dog, who Ozu,

(44:43):
who's like it was also like the same similar breed
because during you know, when he got Ozu as a pup,
trying to train him, like he was just a monster,
just not paying anything anything. It's a bad dog. And
James Gun across his mind like, man, this would be
so much worse if he had superpowers and so and
so he's like ratting Crypto to the movie rating Crypto.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, and that humanizes him even more.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Right, he's more of a foster.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
He's not even a good dog.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
But but but he's out there alone and he might
be scared.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Why. You know, when you when you're writing a book
or you're writing a movie or anything like that, they
tell you write what you know right from your experiences,
based characters on people that you met, an evil teacher,
that you had, a pet that you have, because those
are real human stories that people connect with. And you know,
how boring would it be if he was just a
super dog and he was just a great super dog everything,

(45:36):
and he knew how to do everything, and he was
just always there like a merry sew of dogs. Like, no,
he's a bad dog. He's not really good at following directions,
but you know he'll come through.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
You're a good dog, or you know how orders.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I like how he's he brings Crypto to the to
the climax or whatever, and mister Terrific's like, you brought
that dog man. He's like, I didn't want to. I'm
killing my parents' cows.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I love the scene where mister Terrific is writing Crypto
because at that point, mister Terrific's like own flying machine
was damaged and so he can't fly anymore, and so
Superman's flying into the scene and then you just see
mister Terrific holding Crypto, and that is like so awesome,
Like the smartest man in the world or universe is
like is forced to ride a dog, right at the
back of a dog. Like I thought that was perfect.

(46:23):
Somebody said, uh, mon paw cans their moments didn't feel
like they had enough emotional weights. I was tearing up.
I was tearing up when when they had that one
on one father's son talk like that, Yeah, it was good.
They didn't drag it on long? Was it fit perfectly?
I My eyes were starting to water. I thought it hit.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
That was Another beautiful theme was the theme of choices. Yeah,
you are you know the choices that you make. And
Clark has made X, Y and Z choices and Lex
has made his choices and that's what makes you who
you are and takes you where you go. And but

(47:05):
he isn't Superman, isn't what his Kryptonian parents wanted him
to be. He is who he is.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, based on what he.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Wants, what he wanted that message to mean. Right, that's
what the dad.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Said, and that was you said, parents are not here
to tell you what to become or what to do,
like like, you make your own choices. So that was beautiful.
So I thought it worked. So pooh pooh on the
mom pa haters.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Someone was cutting onions.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I also liked. And this one I saw a lot
of people agree with this one, this criticism. But they
said eve so Lex Luthor's girlfriend. They said that they
didn't like how she was the one kind of responsible
for or like, you know, leading to Jimmy Olsen and
Lois Lane getting the information which would eventually be released
and showing Luther's plan and whatnot, and like how she

(47:53):
you know, was taking selfies and she was the one
to like betray Luthor and that kind of led to
that downfall, that angle outside of that downfall, and I
thought it words, I love I love the character. I
love that jimy Olsen was like this riz Master. Yeah,
but also like that, like you know, we've seen this
before in other movies and like comics. Also like in
this in the Christopher Reeve a movie. I don't know
if it's the first one or second one, but Lex

(48:15):
Luther's wife or girlfriend save Superman. Like Superman is drowning
in a body of water with a Kryptonian like chain
around his neck, and Superman begs her, like, please help me.
You can't let all these people die, and she goes,
maybe I can say please, like people, people are gonna
be hurt, and you know this is gonna be the
worst thing. And then she, you know, she says, oh,

(48:37):
you know, do you promise to save my wife, my mom?
And then he's I will, I will. She goes, you
have to promise, And because she makes some promise, because
she knows that Superman will tell the truth and be
true to his word. So so basically, the point is
we've had characters before side with Superman. Yeah, and and
and help them and help you know, the main people,
So this isn't This doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Listen, you gotta have one or two plot conveniences, right,
you gotta have one or two plot conveniences. And yeah,
Jimmy Elsen, Riz Master and Eve happened to be that.
But that's okay. I feel like it really works in
this circumstance.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
And I feel like I've seen that in a lot
of Superman movies also, besides the example that you gave,
where you get to that point where the person who's
with Lex or the villain of the day is like
realizes how terrible this is and how terrible it's fine
it's going to be, and how many people are going

(49:37):
to get hurt, and they finally make the decision at
the last second to help Superman. Like we've seen this before,
so it doesn't bother me. Yeah, And I love her
portrayal of Eve and the starkery vibe going on, and
I don't understand it, but it was fun. It was

(49:57):
definitely fun.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
And Jimmy Elson and those are all my my defending
Superman points.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Okay, I do have one criticism. Yeah, that's not on
the list.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Okay, is let me defend Superman one more time.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Defense Superman one more time against my crew. Well, it
would be the the costume designer. I think that would
have to be defended not for what Superman or the
main characters are wearing, but the background extras.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Okay, there's this this.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Color palette that's going on back there. It's like all
orange and brown and plaid like and and everybody in Metropolis,
which is like New York, is in this color palette
and wearing these sweater vests and things and khakis and
things like that. I'm like, there is no way on
earth that you're in this modern city and everyone is

(50:49):
dressed like like farm people like and in this weird
color palette and these weird clothes choices like it. Just
that part didn't feel real to me. Like if I
was a background extra, I'd be kind of pissed, like
I don't want to wear this orange sweater vest in
these khakis, and like everybody's in the same So I
just I didn't like the color palette of the background.

(51:12):
That's my only complaint.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Oh, well you know that you're wrong wrong. No, no, yeah,
I don't have a really big argument against that. I
didn't really notice it. I didn't really notice it.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
So as a background extra, I intend to notice that
you the things. So yeah, I'm like, oh, I wouldn't
like to be dressed.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
You're still wrong, but I don't know how to defend
against Okay, well you.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Think about it. Yeah, you get back to me on that.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Okay. So going on to my super love's again favorite
iteration live action version of Superman David Corn sweat perfect
perfectly cast. I love the earnestness of being good for
goodness sake. Again, going back to like what makes people
love Superman like I love Superman. I here's a little
story about James. But back in high school, actually wanted

(51:56):
to dress one year for Halloween as Superman. I was.
I did not because my friend at the time he
said like, oh, you can't be Superman. You're Mexican I know,
or they said, or you could be Mexican Superman. I'm like, no,
I just want to be Superman now. I just want
to be Superman. And so like I did not dress

(52:18):
a Superman because of that. So anybody, thank you anybody
can be Superman. And this reminds me of of The
Iron Giants. Have you seen that movie Iron Giant? Check
it out? Watch it? Okay, watch it with Nikki. Basically,
there's a character the Iron Giants who comes from space,
comes from space that doesn't know his back because he
bomks his head, doesn't know his history or why he's there.

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And then the main messages you choose who you are,
who you choose to be. And at the very end
he saves the day by choosing to be Superman. And
I won't spoil anything, but at the end he goes,
I am Superman and then he does this heroic action.
I'm gonna tear up right now. It's such a it's
such a a full movie. The Iron Giant one of
the best movies ever made. Watch it, watch it, watch

(53:04):
it promising Oh yes, this weekend, this weekend.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Okay, yeah, I promise. I'm not as trustworthy as Superman.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Okay, okay, all right. I think nick you will love it.
I think I think Nicky will love I'll text you.
I think I think Nicky and you will love it.
It's a great movie. The same director did The Incredibles.
If you love then see The Incredible.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yes, the Incredibles, Yes, I love the INDI.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah, no, but like yeah so yeah James Bird Bird
something so the director and writer. Yeah, anyway, watch Iron Giant.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
We're going to be a fanex for Boston. Yeah, coming up?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Should Justice Superman suggestion a right, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
To make up for for Yeah, and I hope you're
not friends with that person. I'm not, or at least
they've maybe changed. I'm okay, good, there were.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Good, Okay, so Justice Gang. I love I love the
Justice Gang. I want to see their own movie. I
want to see them in the They were great in
this movie. Some people were saying, oh, there are too
many characters, you didn't really need them, and why they
had so much screens time. It took away from Superman.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I thought I thought it was good. I thought I
was balanced. I I loved everything I got with Superman.
I loved everything I got with them. But Guy Gardner
got so great. Isabellamer said as Hawkgirl and Eddie Cathegie
as Mister Terrific that I loved the scene where you know,
after Alex Luthor reveals the full message that that Superman's

(54:33):
parents left them Basically saying take over the world and
and take as many women as you as you can
to repopulate or whatever. The first thing, Guy Gardner comes in,
he storms in kind of angry and says, you have
a harem of women. That's what he was worried about.
He wasn't worried about like this man taking over the world.
It's just like, you didn't tell me that you had
a harem of women. Yeah, that was like like perfect.

(54:55):
It was so funny there they were stee every scene
one of them scene Steeler. Everybody in this movie is
a scene Steeler.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
They were all standouts. They were all stand outs. Yeah,
And it was not a scene Steeler in a bad
way where it overshadowed the movie or the main characters.
It was like everything was so much fun every time
that they were on screen. You loved every single one
of them. But Nathan Fillion in the hair perfect. I
love how James gunn has this special relationship with Nathan

(55:25):
Fillion and likes to embarrass him. But the haircut was worked.
The haircut was Nathan's idea, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Against your vows that haircut?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, what what.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Was so good like And the fact that you had
these many characters. Again, if you watch it, going back
to the Justice League Unlimited cartoon series, if you're not,
if you haven't seen it, watch it because again hence
the Unlimited name, there are countless superheroes in that. On
that show and in that in each episode, you could
have up to ten superheroes all like being a Justice

(56:00):
League team doing stuff and missions and whatnot, and you
don't lose track of anybody. Everybody has their moment to
stand out, everybody has a role like it. It works perfectly.
And so this movie reminding me of that. Speaking of reminding,
I watched the Mac and Goo review of Superman, and
I have the same feeling that Goo had. He said
that near like the halfway point of the movie, he

(56:22):
remembers thinking to himself, like, man, I'm having a good time.
I'm having a lot of fun watching this movie. I
had that same thought in that in that in that film,
watching it halfway through, I'm like, this is fun. I mean,
this is a fun, fun movie. I'm really having a
good time. And there aren't that many movies where you
kind of like stop and like take it in, like, man,

(56:43):
this is a good this is a good one. This
is a good one. I'm having a good ride.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think that I liked it more the
second time I watched. Yah, Yeah, I went to go
see a second.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Time or like Dolbey surround Sound. I want to see Adobe.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
See the Imax me though they don't have like reclining seats,
so that's why I always do the Adobe. But yeah,
we got to see it in imaxby is good.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, Guy Gardner confronts Superman about his heremo women. Oh,
one thing I love about this movie, and we mentioned
a lot of people gravitating towards the message of like
being kind and nice is like the new punk rock
and so I love a bunch of memes that are
popping up. It shows a little bit of pictures of Superman,
and the at text over it says positive the masculine

(57:30):
urge to be a better person, the masculine urge to
help others in need, the masculine urge to treat others
with kindness, the masculine urge to love and defend those
different than you, basically showing the difference between like toxic masculinity, yeah,
and positive masculinity. And this isn't just like you know,

(57:51):
a masculine or a Man feature. Obviously women are right
there with you and feeling the same you know, uh,
emotions to be good and watching this and leaving a
very good, very happy and wanting to be a better person.
So this isn't just like a masculine thing. But I
think this is an important thing to show younger generation
because there's a weird turn with like gen was alpha

(58:13):
or gen Z gen Z gen Z right now they're
like they're late teens or early twenties. Yeah, where there's
a lot of like weird misogynistic kind of like alpha
male stuff attitude behavior and people encouraging that. And when
people talk about toxic masculinity, those alpha leaders are often

(58:36):
talking about like, oh look at they hate men and
they hate strong men or whatever, and this is why
you need to be more like this. When no one's
saying there's anything wrong with being masculine, it's the toxic
part in front of that that's really bad, because you're
being told as a man, you can and should use
your strength to do what you want, get what you want,

(58:58):
treat other people however, whatever you want poorly, poorly oftentimes
where in this movie, again Superman is using his strength
as a gift in order to help people, to lift
people up, to give people a voice, to to comfort people,
and that's positive.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah, and so I guess what, he's still manly.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
And he's the man. He he does that great line
of being a very masculine, manly character but also a goofball,
someone who's fun, who can crack jokes on himself. Yeah,
and not not insecure.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yeah, there's a lot of those toxic bots out there. Yeah,
as far as the masculinity thing thing goes. But like
you're saying, I just wanted to read this, this tweet
that is trending. Also on the same vein, this person writes,
I went and expecting a superhero movie. I came out

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realizing that this Superman film whispers a quiet rebellion. Kindness
is punk rock, truth telling his power. Billionaires are the villains.
Borders can't divine define our worth. We are all human
and we all belong James Gunn a job well done,
and it's got Superman with Crypto overlooking the earth. So yeah,

(01:00:20):
that not only is kindness punk rock, but being good
is manly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Yeah, being good is good for anybody exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, all human.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So hopefully this message this movie gets spread so because
not only is a fun movie, it's a great messaging
for everyone of all ages. So Lois Lane her relationship
with Clark Kent and Superman fantastic. Again. I love the
interview scene and Lois Lane is not a damsel in distress.

(01:00:52):
She's actually doing her own thing. She's doing journalism.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, speaking of which, Clark Kent is a terrible journalist. Yeah,
because he's quoting himself as Superman ethics. There, that's wrong.
I'm to ding you that on, ding you on that.
Clark can'tson that that's that's on your journal in character
accurate like in the comics and everything. But as a journalist,

(01:01:15):
you gotta reevaluate what you're doing, uh Clark. Uh Nicholas
Holt again great Supergirl introduced She's a Drunk Party Girl,
which is a based off a comic series where Supergirl.
Do you know the backstory of this not not too
very much long story short when when uh the hit
crypt Krypton, it was a planet called because Kyton Krypton

(01:01:38):
was destroyed when exploded, Super Clark Kent Superman call he
was launched on in a rocket as a baby went
But but Supergirl she was already a teenager at that age.
But the thing is Superman showed up on Earth first
and then grew up and then at one point as

(01:02:00):
a teenager through some time warp. I don't know how
the comics work exactly, but through some time warp, she
shows up on Earth as a teenager. So she was
alive and had her teen years living on Krypton and
seeing it destroyed, seeing her people be eviscerated, and seeing
her culture gone. And so when she's on Earth, she

(01:02:22):
is messed up, messed up, she's mourning, she loves, she
prefers to drink alcohol and get drunk to hide and
numb the pain. And so this is that kind of character. Why,
you know, some people were like, I don't like how
she's a drunk Supergirl and this must be a James
Gun thing. Now it's from the comics from like, you know,
twenty twenty five years ago or something. So this was

(01:02:45):
in the comics where like, this is the story about
the Supergirl and how she's dealing and coping with being
alive to grow up on this planet and seeing it
destroyed and everyone you love die and then how would
somebody react? And so that's the differences between how Clark
was raised is on this Earth to be wanting to
be more human and and kind, where Supergirl has a
has a deeper conflict of like this is my adoptive

(01:03:06):
planet or like my my what's called? Like she's a
refugee refugee planet And I know I could I could
care less. I'm gonna leave this planet and go drink
super alcohol on this other planet because I can't get
drunk on Earth. Yeah. So, so I love I love
the story that they're gonna be using for a Supergirl.
That was cool. Anything else you want to add before

(01:03:27):
we get to my super fun facts, super fun facts?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Just that Hawk Girl, the full commitment to the screech.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Yeah, to the screeching at one point, this is ridiculous,
and I was like, oh, this is great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Actually it was really great. It was really great. I'm like, yes,
more more so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I love the mister Terrific fight scene. I love the
fighting at the end Guy Gardner, Oh, I love the scene.
I love the scene with Lois Lane and Clark are
talking in his apartment and in the background you see them.
You see this just this game and you just see
this big like green bats, just like bunking in like that.
I love it. That's that's fantastic. Yeah. So super fun

(01:04:07):
facts we already mentioned, uh, Crypto the Dog and how
it was inspired by James Gunn. Let's see. Uh oh yeah,
this is cool. Apparently the opening weekend a Superman after
that there was a five hundred and thirteen percent boost
and people googling rescue dog adoptions near me, so or

(01:04:30):
it was an adopted dog near me, And then there
was the phrase rescue dog adoption rose one hundred and
sixty three percent. So this movie maybe leading to a
lot of dogs finding new homes, forever homes. So that's
cool because I think Crypto is like a like a
mixed breed. Yeah, it's not a pure bred dog. A
lot of perfect dogs out there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Or imperfect or imperfect that which makes it perfect exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Yeah. My last super fun fact James Gunn says Paddington
Too is one of the greatest movies ever made.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
You just had to get a Paddington reference.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Hey, if I can do Paddington and Superman in one episode,
there you go. Every episode life is complete, my complete.
So James Gunn, you have great taste. He had a
great name.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to everything that that is coming
down the pipe with the d CU. That was gonna
be my other question for you, d CU versus new
d c U.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Okay, what do you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Think this is? This is this is relaunching the DC universe, right, Are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
You the new one better? Yeah? I like this one
much better. I love I love this one ten times
more than the old d c EU. So that's good.
I love that they're keeping John Cena as Peacemaker. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah, that was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
I hear that Soolo Mari Duana, he played Blue Beetle.
I have heard rumors that he's going to be brought
into this universe because you know, people really like that
movie and won him in every thing, and I want
everything too. But but you know, I think he didn't
get a fair shake because it was a good movie.
I think you saw it right. He said it was
a good movie. People really enjoyed it. So like, hey,

(01:06:10):
let's bring bring him over. He's he was good. He
was one of those good movies in that weird DCEU
swamp thing, which is another DC character.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
And I liked Sean Guns.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
As Maxwell Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Two second, his obligation, his obligatory inclusion in any James Gun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Movie exactly, exactly, all right, go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Watch Superman as you can tell. We loved it and
I want to see it again. Let us know what
you think. Do you do you disagree with any of
my my rebuttals for any of these Superman?

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
And why are you so wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
And why you are super wrong? And why you are
in fact a monkey typing on the computer right now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
We don't believe it, don't believe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
It, but please type as many words as possible. It
helps the algorithm, I'm sure like and also subscribe, Jamie,
what we are watching other than Superman? Some good stuff more.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Superman, honestly. Yeah. So this got me back into small though,
because I remember watching that as a kid and really
enjoying it and going back and just you know what
the best part about Smallville is, besides Tom Welling, who's
just beautiful and so good at what he does, the
music the early two thousands, like rock music that's in

(01:07:27):
like all of these episodes, is just giving me so
much life. I'm just enjoying it so so very much. Yeah,
it's ridiculous. The premise is kind of silly, and it's
way over dramatic and it's early two thousands and it's silly,
but it's it's really fun and I'm hooked. I'm already
dreaming about it, like it's just it hooks you quick.
So yeah, I'm having fun with that, just revisiting like

(01:07:50):
spider Man, Superman, Superman stuff. It's Tom Holland, you know
what I mean. He's got Tom Holland on the frame,
the two of them. It's just you know, ping ponging
back and forth in there, and you're also watching something supermo.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah. So I also reviewed like the first episodes of
My Adventures with Superman the animated cartoon on HBO Max.
Actually I nearly finished the first season, but then I
discontinued HBO Max because I had way too many streaming services.
I recently got it again because I started watching something
else I forgot, but I got HBO Max again. So
I finished the last two episodes of season one. Great show.

(01:08:27):
Season two is out, so I'm gonna be binging that
of course. So we're back on the Superman train and
you're on the Sandman.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Oh listen, I love Sandman season one. We've got half
of season two out right now, the second half of
The second season comes out July twenty fourth, and so
far is it putting you to a sand is a snoozefest.
It cannot get out of its own way. And the

(01:08:55):
thing with stories and storytelling, James, is that when you
create a story and you start telling it to the
audience and you introduce your characters, you create certain promises.
You promise adventure, you promise, oh there's gonna be a battle,
there's this person wants this, or this is what you know,
this is all leading towards correct something like that. But like,

(01:09:17):
if you take away those promises, you got to replace
it with something else, something more exciting, that you more
want more sand, right exactly. But they revoke their promises
and they leave you with nothing. Right this this if
Anticlimactic was an anthropomorphized character, it would be the show.

(01:09:40):
It would be the show. So at the very beginning
light spoilers here, you promise this battle with Hell against
Lucifer to get back this person who is trapped in Hell.
And he's ready and there's you know, millions of demons
waiting for him, and he gets to Hell's doors step
and they're all gone. And when he gets there, Lucifer

(01:10:03):
is like really depressed, and she's like, you know what,
I quit, here's the key to Hell. Now it's your
job to figure out who's going to inherit Hell. Everyone's
going to becoming to your doorstep. And you think, okay, well,
everybody's coming to his doorstep because they want the key
to Hell, and it's going to be this big battance.
It's going to be this really cool, interesting thing. No,

(01:10:23):
he invites them in. They're like, okay, we're all gonna
have interviews and then I'm gonna decide who inherits the
key to Hell. And then he picks someone and then
it doesn't It's not relevant for the rest of the
entire season. It doesn't matter. It's like, what the hell
was all of this? It was all just talking.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
No, that's exactly it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
It's like they ran out of a budget. It's like,
so the promises are all revoked and then what you
get is like, I don't know, like when you go
to court to deal with someone's like you know, inheritance
or something like that, it's so freaking boring. It's like
watching a court proceeding.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Does it feel I feel bad because I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Really loved I really loved the first season of this
show and the character and the actor.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Does it feel like somebody kicks sand in your eye?

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
It does, though, it does.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yeah, it's not like grinding feeling goodness. Well, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Less of a sweet dream and awful poetic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Isn't that ironic?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yes? Don't you think we're hopefully hoping, hoping, hoping that
the second half of this second season will be uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Well, it seems like it seems like you've been mentally
scarred and you have a lot of trauma that you're
holding back or you're unleashing on our on our audience
right now. But you know what, it's always good for
treating trauma. What therapy? Yeah, therapy specifically. I bring it
up because I came across this YouTube channel that's been
around for years. I just learned about them. You apparently

(01:11:50):
have watched them stuff Cinema therapy. Yes, where there there's
a there's a filmmaker, professional filmmaker who needs therapy, and
a therapist who loves movies. And I love the premise
of this YouTube channel. Basically, they pick movies and they
look at it through two different lenses. They look at
characters or the plot or trope of what's going on,

(01:12:13):
and they dissect it with the therapist's expert opinions and analysis
and also looking at it from a filmmaking and how
to approach it from a filmmaker's perspective. And the movies
I've watched so far which are perfect to like the
dissect mentally are like Misus Doubtfire, Yeah, which one? Another

(01:12:34):
one was The Road to El Dorado A Friendship and
Feuds and Relationships. Another one so many I've already watched.
I'm been movies. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
A really good one if you haven't seen it yet
is they analyze the relationship between Hiccup and Astrid and
how to Train Your Dragon. That was a really good one,
talking about all the strengths, whether that it's actually a
good and healthy relationship, which is kind of rare in
what you see in media. Yuh So, Yeah, no, I
I enjoy them too, Uh for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
My wife loves What about What About Bob with uh
with Richard Dreyfus and Bill Murray. And in that movie,
Richard Dreyfus is a therapist and Bill Murray is like
the guy who is in desperate need of help. He
has a lot of mental problems, and it's a it's
a it's a classic. And so that's we're probably gonna
watch that tonight because she's like, oh my god, see

(01:13:24):
they have what about Bob? So I looked it up, like, oh,
sure enough, it's there and so yeah, so this is
a new thing that my wife and I can binge on.
And oh also, we watched The Eternal Sunshine have a
Falls Smile, Yeah, and my wife had very strong she
loves that movie, and so she had very strong opinions
against the therapists interpretation of their relationship. So shout out
to to Cinema Therapy. Uh, you guys are doing a

(01:13:46):
great job. And I don't know, we'll reach out to
you because I want to say Hi. Yeah, I think
you guys are fantastic. So I'm glad to have this
year's long backlog of content.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
To catch up on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Speaking of content, we also have a year's a lot
of six.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Years, five years.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Six years. I think it is about six years. Wait
a minute, I moved here six years ago. It was
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
We're in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Yeah, oh my god, on Hollywood, and we're nearing six
hundred subscribers. It's been a long road, but we're ramping
up thanks to you guys who are watching and listening,
either watching us on YouTube or listening to us on iHeartRadio,
Apple podcasts, or Spotify wherever you get your podcasts. So
what was my point? Thank you so much for watching
and listening. We're going to be back next week with

(01:14:34):
you know, more insights. Maybe another CEO will get busted
in the act in Boston in Boston and we'll get
another list out there. Yeah. Yeah, this is a fun
episode coming down below. We want to hear all your
thoughts about our thoughts on Superman.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Yeah, we'll do an inception of thoughts on Superman. What
kind of therapy do you need? I guess we'll hook
you up with the movie therapy guys. But yeah, I
had just so much fun watching super that'll be a
great one for them to analyze. Oh yeah, yeah, so
that's that's gonna be fantastic looking out for that. I
don't know why we're we're I'm plugging like a different

(01:15:11):
YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Hey, game respects game, that's right, that's right exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I don't know if the youths say that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
They're saying Sigma and Skidy be the toilet or whatever.
You know what it is skimbity be sky.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Skimmitty, skimvy skivty toilet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Just want to throw up? What does it mean? I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
You know, it's just well, skimvity is bad. Wrizzlers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
You got the risk the toilet? I got, I got that.
What's toilet? What's a toilet thing? I know it's as
a video game or YouTube of a head and a toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
No, it's just like a meaning, it's just a video
of a toilet, like ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
What did I just say? The head on the head
and the toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
But now that's old news now, Ohio, the toilet, that's
all old news. Now it's all about the Italian brain
rot Now, it's all tung tung tung shor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
And you need to stop. My brain is rotting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Right now and and all of those. So that's where
it's at.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
If you can hear me right now, suck me out
of this podcast right now, please, no, please, please, somebody
help me right now. No, no, no. The Internet does
not exist in my child's eyes, oh goodness, but it
does in yours. And we appreciate you using the Internet
to reach out to us. But goodness, I need therapy
right now. I need therapy desperately.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Conclusion is that absolutely therapy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
This is that one Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I'm James, I'm Jamie Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Bye bye Skimmity, Do da.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Skimmity do give it. We need therapy today