Knox Joins Us In The Dunkin Lounge

Knox stops by the Dunkin Lounge to tell us who didn't think "Change Your Mind" was a good idea, what else girls have left behind in his room, and what happens when he eats olives. 

Episode Transcript

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There you go. Hey, thankyou guys. Thank y'all. All right,
now's our now's our chit chat.Now's the time, let's go.
I wanted to get dehydra. Ijust I just killed me. Did you
get your aminos today? I did? Actually I had a actually no,

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yeah, normally I wake up,I ripple a couple. We're just gonna
keep that here. There we go. Hey, there we go, professional
professional, you know, come on, what's up? Man? Hey?
Run over plus for no, thankyou, thank you, dude. I've
got to say I I was postedabout it over the weekend. I was
researching. It was just consuming yourcontent, and thank you. I became

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a genuine fan, thanks bro.Just like I dig the vibe. I'm
a big elder millennial guy, soI like the the pop punky vibe.
Yeah, dude, super emo.I know you're big. Follow up boy,
dude, I like genre and everything. Yeah, yeah, I got
it. So I also read youlearn you taught yourself to play guitar?
Right, yeah, dude, Ilived. Uh. I don't know if

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anybody's been to Greenville, Ohio.Anybody anybody ever been there? You've been
there? Why what were you reallydoing? Bro? Come on? No,
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Uhyeah, there's not a whole lot
to do out there, so Ijust got like I got really bored,
and now I'm here, I don'treally know what's happening. Bro. That's
like that goes to that you've heardthat ten thousand hours thing, right?

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Oh yeah, So like, whatwould you tell, you know, a
non knock someone else who just pickedup a guitar? What what's the not
what's the secret? But what whatkeeps you going the next day to keep
playing it until you get to you'reI mean, it just depends on how
much you love music. Like Ijust loved music so much that I was
like, I'm gonna figure out howto play this thing. And like I

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really I really started playing it becauseI had nothing else to do after high
school. And when I went tocollege, I was like, this is
gonna be the thing that makes melike cool. But then in college I
was I wasn't at all, butI was trying to. I was really
just a guy that sang a bunchof Ed Sheeran songs in college is really
embarrassing, but all right, Iwas gonna pretend like I memorized all this,

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but I'm that's okay. I alwaysgot paper, dude. I love
how we've been like kind of waitis this recording? I think so.
I love how we've been just backback there talking, but now we're in
like work modes, so like,yeah, let me get my professional paper.
This guy he's a he's a pro. This guy, where's the mullet
go? That's the first question Ihave for you. Nice dude. It's

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retired and it's gonna stay there forever. I don't know who let me have
that. Have you guys seen anyof the pictures where I have like the
full blown Jerry Seinfeld cut. It'sso bad, Like yeah, like I
I have a I have a musicvideo for my song NYC and I had
to shoot it and it's in thathaircut, and I like watch that video
and I'm like, holy shit,dude, what if? What did I

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do? I thought it was great. I appreciate that different. It's a
different level. It's a yeah,different level white trash for sure. It's
awesome. Dude. Sorry, we'vebeen We've been talking music a lot before
all this has happened. But theone thing I wanted to ask you is
when you're recording music, Yeah,what do you have a hack when you're

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recording that you love to go toor some some technique or effect you'd love
to put on? This is mainlandfor me. I don't care. Yeah,
I love learning about this stuff.Is there one that you like?
Dude? I do like it whenuh, like a lot of people when
they record in a studio, theylike to like they're like, make sure

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there's a bunch of reverbs, soit sounds like you're I like to do
the opposite where I like it ifit sounds like I'm like singing in your
ear, you know what I mean, Like it sounds like you're like right
there. So I don't know ifthat's a hack. I don't even know
if it's like good, but Ithink I like it. It works,
Yeah, I guess. Jeff overhere told me like five minutes, I
got like a full page of stuff. So come on, run it up,

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dude, we're like doing a podcast. Well here's the one thing what
I love about your songs at theirhappy sad songs? Does that make sense?
Hell? Yeah, they're upbeat sadsongs. Yeah. What made you
make that choice to make the upbeatsad songs opposed to the sad sag I
mean I would say, you know, you don't yeah, sad songs.
But well, so everything that Iwrite like starts on acoustic guitars, so

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it always like sounds sadder. Butthen when you start recording it, you're
like, wait a minute, likea breakdown would go hard right here,
and it's like it's pretty like Idon't know, it's pretty rogue decision making,
but it all starts on like itall starts very like singer song right
Like love Letter, for example,was like a full blown like just me
and a guitar sitting on my bedall just like yeah, you know,

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yeah yeah. But then when weput electric guitar, we're like, wait,
this kind of like goes hard,you know. And plus I want
people to if you come to ashow, it's like I want it to
be a good time even though we'reall drowning in our sorrows and sadness,
Like you know, it's still funthough. You know what you write all
the time? Are you constantly writing? Yeah, dude, it's like kind

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of a problem. But you writeanything today this morning? Like I did
no nothing, no, no,but I did I got a song that
I wrote a couple days ago sentto me, and I think it's I
think there's gonna be like a countryartist that it got sent to all these
like country people and they were like, yeah, they want to sing this
song. You know. It's like, oh, how does that work?
Do you? Did you record asong and you're like, let's send it
off to people to see who wantsto collapse type of thing. Yeah,

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well, dude, I probably makelike ten songs a week, and typically
like zero point five of those songsend up being my own, Like it's
like one every two weeks, Iget a knock song like every other.
Like, I just love making musicand I hate like like, I was
a staff writer for Sony before Iwas an artist, so I was writing
for other artists, And the onething that I don't like about the artist

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world is that I feel like I'mconstantly doing sessions where people are trying to
write songs for me, where Ijust like making good music like whatever it
is. Like, so every dayI'm just kind of making I always try
to make something that I've never madebefore, and then if it ends up
like like, for example, hasanybody heard my song? Change your mind?
You've heard that song? Oh,of course you have. But I

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have a song called Change your Mindthat's like very like it's like a folk
song. It's like almost like noeconic. When we made that song,
that was not supposed to be asong for me, I just wanted to
make something random that I hadn't madebefore. But then when we made it,
I just loved it so much thatI was like, I'm gonna keep
this one. So yeah, yeah, did you know Knox is a gelatine?
Is what? It's a brand ofJello? Did you know this?

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No? I would love some though. We were sitting Me and Jeff were
sitting here talking about it, andhe's like, Knox is a brand of
Jello. This is a fun factI have yet to hear. I love
that. That's not again that Ilove entertaining as much as in the world.
That you know you've got to.We should have hooked it up.
Dude, tone to send me somestuff. Yeah, I got a po
box, Dude, send in thep O box please. What I want

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to talk about dumpster fire because there'san interesting lyric in it. Okay,
you talk about a girl's hair ties, I do finding them. What else
have you found in your room?From other women. I mean, you
know, well, no you wantyou want a prime example of a married
man hair in the shower all thetime. No, dude, I feel

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like that was actually like a truething though, Like I feel like I'm
still finding like in my socks.I'll be like, what the hell,
dude, and then my girlfriend's like, who's is this? Dude? I'm
like, does your girlfriend steer yourclothes? Yeah? Yeah, all of
them. I love it when shewhen I get stuff. So I actually
don't like shop. I don't.I don't know how to do. Like

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if I shop, I'm going toTarget and getting like a Marvel T shirt
or something. But when I goand shoot music videos or do something for
like press, there's always like astylist and typically I get to like bring
the clothes home, which is prettysick. And uh, every time I
bring something home, she's like,oh my god, thank you for getting
this for me. And yeah,it's not not cool. If you get
married, that doesn't change. Yeah, I look better though, dude,

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is this that? No? I'mkidding. We asked if we talked about
gelatinm gelatinin we expand into pat Yeah. So I've asked artists before like,
how, what's your process in writing? You showed me a few things.
Yeah, just as the example,how did change your Mind start? Oh?
Dude, Uh dude, Change yourMind was random because uh, I

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actually, uh okay, I'm gonnaI'm gonna kind of name drop here.
And I hope he doesn't hear thisbecause I don't want to, like,
I don't want him to get mad. But I was. I had a
session. Do you guys know whoMickey Echo is. He sings Stay with
Rihanna. You know the song.So I had a session with him,
and I was really stoked, andI had this idea for I was like,
dude, should write a song calledchange your Mind and it's I can

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change all these things about me,but I can't change yours. And like
that was like the thing. AndMickey, this guy who I like kind
of look up to, uh,he was like, yeah, dude,
I don't know, I don't thinkit's that good. And I was like,
I was like oh, And sowe ended up doing something else.
And then the next day I waswith my best friend who I write like
I wrote not the ninety seventy fivewith him and love Letter and all these

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songs, you know, I waslike, yeah, dude, Mickey,
I Chris told me this wasn't cool, but I think we can make it
cool. And so uh we werelike, no, we're gonna make this
song today. We're gonna make itawesome. And then it just like came
from that Mickey. Yeah, yeah, Mickey, if you're listening, I
love you, though, I reallydo. Hot take. What food do
you hate? What food do Ihate? Uh? I'm not a big

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onion guy. I don't like onionsand I only like fried pickles, like
covered in ranch, but I don'tlike regular pickles. Though. How do
you feel about olives? Oh?You want to hear a fun fact?
I swear to god this is atrue story. I was when I was
a senior in high school. Iwas dating this girl and I went to
her family Christmas and she we wereat that we were at I can't believe

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I'm about to say this. Wewere at the table like eating her Christmas
family whatever lunch, and she waslike, come on, eat this olive
and I was like, no,you don't understand, Like I'll puke if
I eat this all of like they'redisgusting, and she made me eat it,
so I put in my mouth andI started eating it and I vomited
at the table in front of it, and I like just matter family,
and I like puked on myself.I was like, I told you,

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yeah, I was, Yeah Iwas. I'm mortified from that. That
relationship last after that, not long, not long now it's bad. Speaking
of food, do you have ago to Taco Bell order? Oh?
To be honest, I've actually retiredfrom Taco Bell. I haven't had it
in like three years, I know. But they that the the uh,
I mean the uh, what's thatnew? I've had the grilled cheese burrito.

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I mean, if you eat thosetoo many of those, you're not
gonna live very long. But likethey're pretty good though. Why just because
on the road, right, yeah, you're probably not eating you know,
healthy salads. There's a lot ofgas station dude, you'd be surprised actually.
So the two guys that I thatare in like my band that play
with me, Johnny and Christian likeguitarist and drummer, they're like health freaks

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and they're like so fit. SoI've been trying to like do what they
do because I'm sick of being theworst for looking person on stage. It's
like pissing me off. So they'relike because they look amazing, Like Johnny's
gonna take his shirt off and hangout fest this weekend. Now I'm gonna
be so mad because I cannot dothat. You should mullets, Yes,
you should have. I don't know. I feel like that would make it,
made it work. They may havecalled the police if I haven't pull

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it on the stage. Dude,did we go over our time? Yeah?
Time to revet? One more question? Okay? What question did I
not ask you that you wanted meto ask you? Oh? God,
did we talk about this? No? Oh? Is there a question like
you you would love for me?Oh? I don't know. I mean
this has been pretty fun. You'vedone pretty good. Thank you, sir.
Yeah, I think it's what's that? Oh yeah? Oh yeah yeah

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yeah yeah yeah. Ask me aboutthe tour, say, ask what I
have going on? There going onin your world? Dude, you're not
gonna believe it. I have.I'm going on tour in July with a
band called the band Comino. Ilove to have anybody listening to them.
Anybody know the band Camino? Lovethem? Yeah, I'm going on tour
with them. We're playing the Agoraand Uh on July twenty seventh. Right
lends it. Yeah, July twentyseventh, We're gonna play a show with

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the I will be out in thecrowd crying with all of you because I
love the Banker, you know somuch. So it's gonna be ethic.
Please come, I'm begging you.Tickets are live right now. Knocks.
Everybody makes some noise for him.Hey, there we go.