Gov. Newsom Flip Flops on Medi-Cal for Illegal Immigrants

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
A lot of my work and a lot of my writing,
more than I ever would have anticipated, has focused on
medical medical. The part federally funded, part California funded, the
California version of the federal Medicaid program, which was in

(00:21):
its original conception health insurance for certain kind of classes,
categories of persons, pregnant women, people with certain kinds of disabilities, etc.
But which, as a result of Obamacare, really morphed into
something very different. It morphed into health insurance for lower

(00:41):
income people, health insurance just for people under a certain
income threshold. I think the income threshold it's something like
if you're at or under one hundred and thirty eight
percent of the federal poverty line. It's now at a
point where it's something like half a Fresno county is
covered by some version of medical, and huge percentage of

(01:02):
people in rural counties are covered by medical. So it's
now this enormous pool of people. And the amount of money,
the amount of reimbursement that doctors get for providing a
service to a medical patient, the money that they get
from medical for providing a service to a medical patient

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is often inadequate. There just isn't enough money. And this
is in spite of the fact that the Medicaid program,
the federal Medicaid program is growing, growing, growing, to such
a degree that it's going to be a one trillion
dollar a year program. As far as how much it costs,
just the massive overexpansion of Medicaid to able bodied adults,

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even able bodied adults without dependence has been exorbitant, and
that has led to exorbitant costs, and it leads to
this really sort of unbalanced system where some of the
original kinds of groups that the program was supposed to
help cover, like, for example, pregnant women aren't getting very

(02:07):
good care and aren't getting very good reimbursement. The fewer
and fewer obgyns want to take care of medical patients
for their obgyn care because you lose money, and this
has led to big time problem unless you get like

(02:29):
special state subsidies for their care, which are very hard
to get. So basically it's a it's a whole mess.
It's a whole mess. Gavin Newsome, however, needed to utilize
medical in order to sort of kind of rationalize one

(02:51):
of the most obvious acts of hypocrisy from his time
as Californi governor, his abandonment of single payer healthcare, of
universal single payer California healthcare. So let's go back to
twenty eighteen. Gavin Newsom is running for governor. Gavin Newsom

(03:11):
talks about his desire to have universal California healthcare and
the idea is a single payer system. So, by the way,
I think single payer healthcare is one of those political
terms or terms that people here all the time and
probably don't really know what it means. Right now, we
have a system where we have multiple payers. A payer
just means either an insurance company or a government manage

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or a government run insurance plan, an insurance company providing
health insurance, or a government run health insurance plan. So
right now in the healthcare market, there are multiple payers.
I have Blue Cross, I have a blue Cross or

(03:55):
Blue Shield, and some people have Kaiser, and some people
of this, and some people of that. Some people have
met and then some people have this and blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah, and then some people are
on medical older folks are on many older folks are
on Medicare, et cetera, et cetera. All right, so we
have a system with multiple payers. A single payer healthcare system,

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as you see in Canada, as you see in the
United Kingdom, means no, we get rid of all of
the payers and we only have one payer, one person
providing the coverage, providing the funding that goes to the doctors,
the government. That's what a single payer healthcare system is.
Gavin Newsom was promoting a single payer healthcare system for California.

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That's what he was pushing in twenty eighteen when he
ran for governor. And in fact, he has some quotes,
some really embarrassing quotes from that time from twenty eighteen
when he said, all these liberals they run for office
pledging that they're going to push for single payer healthcare,
and then when the rubber meets the road, oh, they
chicken out and they kick the can down the road

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and it's never the right time, and I'm not gonna
be like that. Well, and then he proceeded to do
exactly precisely that. He becomes governor. The insurance companies lobby
him and they're like, hey, please don't do that, and
he chickens out and he doesn't actually pursue single payer
health care. So what does he do to kind of

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rationalize this obvious betrayal of his campaign promise. Well, what
he does is he utilizes medical. He uses medical in
order to achieve the goal of universal coverage. He wants
everybody in California to have health insurance. Now, the quality

(05:52):
of that health insurance, the financial sustainability of that health insurance,
all of those factors be damned. Gavin Newsom is going
to accomplish his goal of getting everybody covered. That's the
focus for him. So what does he do. He expands
and expands and expands and expands medical eligibility, crowning it
off a couple of years ago by opening medical eligibility

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to illegal aliens, people who are in the country unlawfully,
people who are in the state of California unlawfully. They
are eligible to receive medical coverage. Well, here's the problem.
Even before illegal aliens were eligible for medical medical was

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in horrific shape. Again, in spite of all the money,
there are too many people getting too many services, and
the pool of money to help pay the doctors for
providing those services is too small. The reimbursement that go
to doctors are too low. Doctors lose money. In some

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cases they barely cover their costs through medical reimbursements. Why
did Madeic Community Hospital go out of business? There were
a lot of reasons why. This wasn't the only reason,
but one of the big reasons is sixty percent of
their patient population was medical and they weren't making money
off of those patients sixty percent. And even now Madeira

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Community Hospital's reopening but guess what they're reopening with no
maternity ward. Why because obgyn services is one of those
areas where medical is particularly not profitable for doctors taking
medical patients, getting a medical reimbursement for a service to
a patient, for a delivering a baby to a medical

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patient pregnant woman who's covered by medical, you lose money.
So so that was a problem before illegal aliens. We're
eligible for medical and here you're gonna add So here's
we have only a certain pool of money to pay

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for reimbursements for medical patients. And Gavin Newsom's gonna add
every illegal alien in California to the pool of people
eligible for medical without proportionally expanding the pool of money
to pay for services for them. That's not gonna work.
The math doesn't make sense. And lo and behold The

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cost to the state for providing medical coverage for illegal
aliens has been billions of dollars, more than Gavin Newsom anticipated,
than California anticipated, and it's so much more that. According
to this story from the Los Angeles Times written by
Tarren Luna, facing a budget deficit, Governor Gavin Newsom is

(09:09):
proposing changes to California's program to provide free healthcare coverage
to low income undocumented immigrants. The cost of coverage for
immigrants has exceeded state estimates by billions of dollars. Gavin
Newsom is maybe wanting to roll this back. Governor Gavin
Newsom's twenty twenty five twenty twenty six revised budget proposal
renegs on his signature policy to provide free healthcare coverage

(09:31):
to all low income undocumented immigrants as costs exceed expectations
and the state anticipates challenging economic times ahead, Newsom's office
said the Governor's spending plan, which will be released late
Wednesday morning, you know that this article was I think
written very very early this morning, which will be calls

(09:53):
for requiring all undocumented adults to pay one hundred dollars
monthly premiums. To receive medical coverage and for blocker all
new adult applications to the program as of January first.
So we're gonna make We're gonna make adults adult illegal immigrants.
They got to pay one hundred dollars premiums, and we're not

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gonna admit any new applicants after January first. No adult
applications to the program as of January first. The costs
share will reduce the financial burden on the state and
could lower the total number of people enrolled in the
healthcare program if some immigrants cannot afford the new premiums.
Freezing enrollment may prevent the price tag of the program

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from continuing to balloon after more people signed up for
coverage than the state anticipated. Why would the state of
anticipated that a ton of people weren't gonna sign up.
I guess I'm baffled by why they're baffled. You're offering
free health insurance to people who aren't supposed to be
in the country legally. You're telling hey, come on it.

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I remember seeing the billboards, billboards in Spanish proclaiming that
you know coverage regardless of your immigration status. The governor's
office said the changes will save a combined five point
four billion dollars through twenty twenty eight twenty twenty nine,
but did not detail the cost savings in the upcoming

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fiscal year that begins July first. Newsom has expected Wednesday
to project a deficit for California in the fiscal year ahead,
which includes higher than expected medical costs and more significant
shortfall estimates in the following years.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
This is such another massive failure for Gavin Newsom, and
it shows just the the approach that the Democrats have
taken healthcare.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Has just not really been a sustainable one. It's almost
sort of that there's this the half rear rendered approach
as opposed to the whole rear rendered approach. If you will,
if you're going, at the very least you know, say

(12:11):
what you will about single payer healthcare systems. And I'm
more than happy to say what I will about single
payer healthcare systems. I think there are a lot of
real serious risks with single payer healthcare systems, having the
government completely control it, the kinds of perverse incentives that exist,
and there's all kinds of problems with single payer healthcare systems.
We don't need to detail them all here.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
But.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
At least from a financial perspective, there's a certain kind
of sense to it. You eliminate all the extraneous costs
that are associated with lots and lots and lots of
other individual payers. You have one single payer. Everyone is
paying a significant tax burden hiring come people or paying

(12:55):
a significant tax burden in order to pay for the
costs for everybody. Rather than everyone paying premiums, people are
paying that money in taxes. You have to accompany a
single payer system with a tax increase that there's a
certain kind of mathematical sense to it. Everyone's going to

(13:18):
pay more in taxes, but everyone's going to be covered.
That's the system we have. Okay, it makes mathematical sense
now on the ground realities of life within the National
Health Service in the UK or the Canadian model not
all sunshine and roses. But at the very least there's
a certain math that adds up. Newsom has basically because

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this is about Newsome and advancing the greater glory of
Gavin and Newsom trying to do this sort of cya
for his campaign promise of universal health care. He's gone
about this in a way that just makes no math sense,
because what else is he supposed to do increase taxes

(14:05):
on Californians, were already the most heavily taxed state in
the Union. Newsom knows he can't increase taxes further to
pay for medical, but he has to fulfill these campaign
promises that he made of health care for everybody, health
care for all, universal health care. So he pushes this

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policy and everyone, certainly everyone from the Republican side of
the aisles like medical is already in disastrous shape, and
you're because it's too many, it's too small a pool
of money covering health care for too many people, and
now you're going to add illegal aliens to the mix,
Like this is gonna be a disaster, and lo and behold,
that's exactly what it is. Because again, the point of

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this was not actually to do something that made any sense.
The point of it was to advance Gavin Newsom's greater glory.
When we return, why I kind of suspect that Gavin
Newsom's presidential aspirations are cooked. That's next on the John
Girardi Show, before I really dig into Newsom's presidential aspirations,

(15:19):
the bigger picture, so that the highlight from the revision
of the state budget is the need to step back
medical eligibility for illegal aliens. But let's talk more broadly
about Gavin Newsom and his laying out to the state

(15:41):
of just how bad California's budget problems are. Senator Brian
Dolly's Republican state senator in California. He tweets out the
state is going to be facing deficits of twenty to
thirty billion dollars per year. This is from Brian Dolly

(16:07):
Newsom is so Newsom's reporting like, we are going to
face enormous, enormous deficits and he's going to try to
blame Trump. He's going to try to blame uh Trump's tariff. Oh,
there's so much revenue we're losing out on. This is
going to be wildly overstated, but we just need to

(16:31):
acknowledge this is Newsom's last year. This is not year
one of Newsom. It's his eighth year. Okay. We are
going to have an election for a new governor in well,
I guess it's his seventh year. Okay, We're going to
have the governor election is going to take place in

(16:51):
November of twenty twenty six. It's on him now. At
this point, if California was doing all right, we wouldn't
be facing deficits at this If California had been managed
well for the prior seven years in spite of COVID,

(17:16):
we would be doing really well right now. We could
be okay right now, we might not be engaged in
deficit spending right now. Why are we? It's because of him.
He's been the captain of this ship for over six years.
He at a certain point he cannot deflect the blame,

(17:38):
and he's going to try to deflect the blame on Oh,
it's Donald Trump's tariffs, so have cost us all these
billions of dollars. Florida's got budget surpluses and their budgetary
situation is doing just fine. Are tariff's impacting them more
so than California? I don't think so. They got plenty
of international shipping in Florida. So the it's on him

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at this point. It's on him at this point. The
fact is it's the most overtaxed state in the Union.
It's the most overtaxed state in the Union, and it's
super reliant on this incredibly small number of super high income,
super high net worth taxpayers who get a ton of

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money in capital gains taxes and for who get a
lot of money in capital gains that are paid to
California in the form of capital gains taxes, and a
lot of that crowd left. A lot of that crowd
left the state over the last four or five years
over Newsom's tenure, in no small part because of how

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he managed the state, because of how he ran the
state during COVID, because of how he has run the
state this whole time. It's on him period end of sentence.
We're facing enormous budget deficits, so you know he can't

(19:10):
escape that. So now when we return, we're going to
talk about his presidential ambitions and why I'm getting more
and more confidence that JD. Vans is going to be
our president starting on January twentieth of twenty twenty nine.
That's next on the John Girardi Show. I am getting
more and more convinced that JD. Vance is going to

(19:31):
be the next president of the United States of America.
Here's why. So his two chief opponents, the two most
likely opponents from the Democrats side, are at least two
of the most heralded opponents from the Democrats side. Maybe
I'm overstating their chances are Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris.

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Newsom's going to run, Harris is going to run. Now,
maybe both of them will lose the Democrat primary. I
don't know. They've got a lot of money behind them.
They might have a lot of donors, a lot of
money behind them. I am looking though, at all this
Gavin Newsom news that's coming out now that he has

(20:16):
to roll back one of his signature things, his promise
to give medical coverage to illegal aliens. But he's having
to roll back because it was way more expensive than
he anticipated. I think Gavin Newsom's never going to be president.
I think his chances of being president are just cooked.

(20:40):
I think the last even just the last year, between
the fires in LA and now this. I mean, let's
just look at Gavin Newsom's career. Look at Gavin Newsom's
time as governor. Homelessness has become this huge problem in California.

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He hasn't really done anything to fix it. In fact,
he spent billions of dollars on it. The problem hasn't alleviated,
which follows a trend throughout his whole career. He was
mayor of San Francisco for seven years, spent all his money,
time and attention to help address homelessness in San Francisco,
and the problem got way worse when he was mayor. Okay, wildfires, okay,

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we had the bad wildfires in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,
said oh, I'm going to do stuff to work on it.
And then we had the worst fire in history this
past January in Los Angeles, and we can't get permitting
for rebuilding this enormous number of houses that got built down,
that got burned down. Okay, that's also really bad. Well,

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we got our high speed rail, the high speed rail,
which still has exactly zero inches of operable track. It
had zero inches of operable track when he started as governor.
It continues to have zero inches of operable track. We'll
probably have zero inches of operable track when he leaves governor.
Over the course of eight years, he didn't ban, he
did not do a kind of sunk cost analysis. He

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just let it linger. He embraced this stupid Merced to
Bakersfield plan. It's a disaster and it's indefensible. Now he's
got budget deficit after budget deficit after budget deficit, because

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and what's the dynamic there. The dynamic is California was
when he started as governor, and he knew this. When
he started as governor, he knew California was super reliant
on a very small pool of very high value into
the individuals who pay a lot in taxes, and they
were propping the whole state government up with their tax revenue.

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And the way he governed in no small part during
COVID resulted in a bunch of them moving away and
taking billions of dollars in annual revenue from their capital
gains taxes and other tax revenue with them to Nevada
to Arizona, to Idaho, to Florida, to Texas, and we're
never getting them back or not anytime soon anyway. So

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and that's on him. A lot of that was on him.
It was because of how he governed things during COVID,
and we had the one year we had twenty twenty
two where we thought where everyone in Sacramento seemed to
have this false optimism that oh, everything's wonderful because we
had a budget surplus. Why well, we had this huge
influx of federal cash, and we seem to think that,

(23:46):
you know, blue skies and sunny days were here to stay.
And here's Gavin Newsom palain around with Jerry Dyer and
so here, Jerry, here's you know, two hundred and fifty
million dollars for helping with the infrastructure in downtown Fresnoe. Oh,
thank you, mister governor. That's so sweet of you.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
And that money ain't coming, Jerry. I just don't know
that that money's gonna come. I mean I don't. I
don't be grudge Jerry Dyer for trying to get the money.
Good for him, he's the mayor of Fresno. He wants
to help help, you know, build up Fresno. Good for him,
But I don't know that that money's coming. We got
the first installment of it, and and it keeps getting

(24:30):
pushed back a year, keeps getting pushed back a year.
I don't know that it's ever coming, especially when we're
facing these massive year over year deficits. So our fiscal
outlook is a train wreck. And Knewsome just is like, well,
all the teachers' unions were mad that they didn't get

(24:51):
enough money for schools in the budget last year. Oh okay, well,
I guess we're gonna do a statewide bond measure. What
was that? That was Prop two, I think or it
was one of the one of the propositions that we
voted on in November. And then every local school district
does a bond measure. Okay, we're just adding more bond debt,
just more and more bond debt. Who cares as long

(25:14):
as the teachers' unions are happy, So our fiscal outlook
is a disaster. He's now having to roll back his signature,
you know, one of his signature big promises of universal
healthcare coverage, because he gave even while we were facing
these horrible budgetary situations. He then proceeded to add illegal

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aliens as being eligible for medical which has cost the
state billions more than we anticipated. Why didn't we anticipate
it would cost that much? I don't know. I was
anticipating it was going to cost a lot of money.
So I just feel like I don't understand how Gavin

(25:58):
Newsome is kin to go on a debate stage and
say vote for me. What literally, what does he have
to point to? He can talk all you want about all.
California is one of the fifth leading economy in the world.
California was one of the leading He always talks about

(26:19):
that California is the sixth largest economy in the world. Like,
if you treat California as its own country, it stacks
up as it's the fifth or sixth leading economy in
the world. Okay, great, good job by us. It was.
That's always been the situation with California. That's been the
situation with California for years and years and years. That

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it has the biggest economy because it has the largest
population of any individual state in the United States. It
has several major industries, it has great geography. Shipping goes
through California. Hollywood is located in California. Yeah, of course,
but that's not a thing News can take any credit

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for with any sense. Every single aspect of California governance
has gotten worse. Our fiscal situation is worse. Public safety
is not better. He's trying to sort of claw back
after the ridiculous sorts of ballot initiatives that he himself

(27:24):
helped pass. Public safety is worse, Homelessness is worse. He's
blown billions of dollars trying to fix homelessness and it
hasn't fixed anything. The high speed rail is a total waste.

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You just go on and on and on and on.
And I just don't understand how Gavin Newsom's going to
be able to stand on a debate stage and credibly
make the case that people should vote for him him
to be president. I don't understand how it's gonna work

(28:08):
he has. I don't see what accomplishment he has to
point to. Now when you look at the field of
likely Democrats. Though Newsom will be a formidable person. He's
got the Nancy Pelosi California donors. He may well have

(28:30):
a lot of them behind him, and money means a lot.
The dons. Donors really run things on the Democrats side,
don't believe me. Look at poor old Joe Biden, who
got tossed out unceremoniously because the donors basically told him
you gotta go. I mean that the donors really run
the show. That they they don't mess around. If they

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really want somebody or really don't want somebody, they can
make that happen. So it seems as though Newsom has
been trying to placate that donor class his whole tenure
as governor of California to set himself up for a
presidential run in twenty twenty eight. But there's there are
other challenges he's going to face. So first of all,

(29:15):
I think it's more and more likely that Kamala Harris
is going to run for president again. So if she
runs for president also, that might sort of block up
the lane that he wants to pursue. She has a
lot of the same donor base. She's also from California
that you know, she's the one person who could run

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that has better name recognition than he does on a
national level. You know, that could be tricky. But then
you've got to look at other states who have governors
that are, you know, better, more successful. Look at Josh
Shapiro in Pennsylvania his governor. No other governor who runs

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will have the catalog of catastrophic failures that Newsom has.
Josh Shapiro won't have it. Andy Basheer from Kentucky, he
won't have it. Pete Botagig won't have it. I mean,
Pete Buotagige has the advantage of having worked a basically

(30:21):
useless job for four years under the Biden administration and
not really done much of substance, so he doesn't have
as much to criticize. But he won't be subject to
the kinds of attacks that Newsom will be. Newsom just
has this long, extensive track record of horrific failures that

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I think are I don't understand how he can escape
it and realistically think he's got a shot at being
president if his fellow Democrats are willing to be vicious enough,
as vicious as they need to be for these highly
ambitious people who want the ultimate prize, if they're gonna
be the level of ambitious that they should be, they're

(31:08):
gonna point out on the debate stage, Look, you promised
single payer, you promise universal health care, and you whimped
out on it. You said you would deal with forest
fires and you didn't really deal with forest fires. You
made this commitment to the high speed rail, it's still
not there. You uh, you know, on and on and
on and on. You you are delivering budget deficits. What actually,

(31:35):
what actual accomplishments does Newsom have to run on. I
don't know that he's got any. And now again, let's
let's talk about Kamala Harris wanting to run. She she
is really wanting to run. I think a lot of
what's happening right now, you've got this Jake Tapper book

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that's coming out about Joe Biden and about how old
the cover up that happened there was, what are you
talking about? There was no cover up. Everyone knew Biden
was too old and senile. All you had to do
was just watch video of him, which is what everyone
in the country was doing. Let's let's not forget sixty

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percent of the country thought Biden was too old to
run for president before the CNN debate, sixty percent of
the country. So the idea that, oh, they deceived us
all in the met No, there was nothing to deceive.
Just believe your eyes. Anyway, A lot of that, this

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whole sterm and drong over this book that Jake Tapper's
releasing about oh how old, how old? The Biden people
orchestrated this horrific cover up and deceived us all. A
lot of it, I think is that there are at
least some people who are participating with it who are
Kamala Harris, people who are trying to rationalize and justify

(33:05):
her loss and try to say, no, she's not a
terrible candidate. She was just dealt an impossible situation. She
was saddled to this loser Joe Biden, and no one
could have won with a one hundred day campaign. That's
the big thing they keep saying that, Oh, it's how
could we have expected Kamala Harris to beat Donald Trump

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with only one hundred days to campaign? Because you know,
it was only about one hundred days before the November
election that the big switch aeroo happened. So a lot
of this media circus is it's a Kamala Harris rehabilitation thing.
So I think she's going to be back. I think
she's going to be back in twenty twenty eight. And

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let me I'll just say this, if the ultimate contest
for the Democrats is between Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom
to be the next president, then JD. Vance is gonna
cruise to victory because one I don't think. I think

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Kamala Harris was a really bad candidate the last time,
and she's gonna be a really bad candidate again this time.
It's not like she's all of a sudden gonna be
good at talking. It's now all of her her problems
are not going to go away. And it's clear that
the like the Trump tariff stuff, it seems like this
is kind of getting drawn back wound down. That stuff's

(34:29):
going to be in the rearview mirror by the time
the twenty twenty eight presidential election rolls around. I would
anticipate some kind of tax cuts are going to happen.
I bet the economy is going to be doing better
by the time Jade Vance is running. I think Vance
would crush Harris. And if it's Gavin Newsom, Vance has

(34:53):
so much AMMO to use against Newsom. Again, all of
the things that Newsom has done that have just been
massive failures, and we're topping it off now with the
disaster of his expanding medical eligibility to people who aren't
supposed to be in the country, who aren't in the

(35:13):
country legally. That's just gonna be the cherry on top
of this turd. Sunday, I think Vance will just be
able to rip Gavin Newsome limb from limb and just
demonstrate he has nothing to run on when we return.
I told you guys the story about how we're dealing

(35:34):
with drugies outside of a homeless shelter. Apparently we have someone,
a well known figure, a well known gadfly in Fresno
politics is involved. I'll tell you all about it. Next.
This is the John Girardi Show. I came on the
show yesterday and I talked with you guys. Actually, I
might writing an obet about it. I might submit it

(35:56):
to somebody telling you about my experience that are are
building it right to life. Where we're located across the
street from the back part of a parking lot of
what used to be a motel six but is now
a homeless housing entity. And how basically now people can
enter an exit from the back part of this parking lot.

(36:19):
People living at this homeless housing entity, they're coming out
of there, and drug dealers are just sort of or
very much seems to be drug dealers anyway, are just
camping out right next to the exit to sell their
wares to people as they leave the housing unit. As
they leave this homeless housing they're selling drugs right there

(36:44):
in full view of the employee or at least the contractors,
the security people from the homeless housing entity, selling drugs
to them right there. And then they're sitting on basically
right up against my property to loiter around all day
using drugs, ambling what looked kind of like soliciting prostitution.

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You know, cars stopped in the middle of the road
with ladies leaning into the windows, et cetera. Well, I
learned that apparently this entity is being managed by none
other than Terrence Fraser. Terrence Fraser the head of the
nonprofit that runs the Granite Park Sports complex that has

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been a massive thorn in the city side for all
kinds of fun, paid bills and lawsuits, all kinds of
things like that. So the plot thickens for your boy,
John Girardi, and I'm going to dig into this a
little more. I'm hoping I can write something about this
and maybe write a little op ed and maybe send

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it to Bill McEwan and the guys at GV Wire.
That'll do it for the John Girardi Show. Thank you
all so much for listening. We'll see you next time
here on Power Talk.