Gavin Newsom's Last Shot at Relevance

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've been talking for weeks how I think Gavin Newsom's
presidential prospects are done, over cooked, finished, cutput. I still
kind of think that, But I think this most recent
crisis in Los Angeles could be his last shot. It

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could be his last shot at least forgetting the Democrats
to nominate him, and maybe to cover up a host
of sins. So let me describe for you all the
real problem, I mean, the situation Gavin Newsom found himself

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in circa two weeks ago before these riots really started,
all right, before the riots started in Los Angeles happening
now and respond to ice raids and general lefty lawlessness

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and lunacy. Before the ice raids started and these protests began,
Newsom has been in the worst shape politically he's been
in in a very very long time. He is confronting
the fact that he's now been governor for six and
a half years and that he has his ability to

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blame someone else for his problems is becoming less and
less weaker and weaker. He cannot really blame Jerry Brown anymore,
which was the big instinct for the entirety of his
first term as governor. He wasn't sure what to do
with this knife, so he thought he would stab it

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in Jerry Brown's back. He would constantly blame Jerry Brown,
he would constantly blame factors outside of his countrol. I
just became governor twenty eight months ago. I think that
was an actual, an actual argument he posed over two
years into his term as governor. You know, like he's
an insane parent talking about they're twenty eight month old,

(02:18):
as you know, just say your two year old, that's fine.
And his failures were so obvious. California is in such
bad shape in so many areas that aren't really politically coded,
and that was the big thing I kept sort of
banging home about that. Gavin Newsom's problems, his failures are

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bipartisanly acknowledgable. They are acknowledgable from both sides. It's just
objectively bad things. It's not like he's done a bunch
of things that liberals really like and conservatives really hate.
He has some of that, okay. He's massively expanded medical
eligibility and some Democrats think that's wonderful, and some Republicans think, well,

(03:03):
do we have the money for that? And you know
that's leading to other kinds of problems. But that's not
the kind of problems I'm talking about. The kind of
problems I'm talking about with him are just things that
everyone acknowledges are bad. He came into office with California

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not building enough, not having enough new home construction. We're
six and a half years in, there's still not enough.
He came into office with high speed rail having zero
inches of operable track and no real game plan for
how to get enough money to finish the project. He's
six and a half years in with zero inches of

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operable track and no real game plan for how to
get the money to pay for the thing, And now
the federal government is gonna clawback four billion dollars. Homelessness
was a problem when he started. It is a worse
problem now, and a worse problem after having spent I

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think it's something like twenty four billion dollars on the
problem of homelessness that California budgetary officials are saying had
no means attached to that funding for measuring its effectiveness.
We don't even know if it worked. We're pretty sure
it didn't. It seems to have had no effect whatsoever

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on fixing homelessness. After we spent twenty four billion dollars.
Now he can try to shift the blame for that
all he wants to local governments, and he is actively
trying to do so, but it's not going to look
good on him. After wildly expanding medical eligibility, Gavin Newsom

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now has to embarrassingly roll back medical eligibility for illegal aliens,
a initiative that cost way more money than he anticipated,
something like ten billion dollars more than he anticipated. Fiscally,

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the state is in terrible shape. You know, we inherited
a pretty good fiscals He inherited a pretty good fiscal
situation from Jerry Brown, and we are now at the
point where again various state auditors and state budgetary analysts

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are reporting that California now faces structural deficits of ten
to twenty billion dollars a year. Structural deficits mean it's
not like it's a one off that this year we're
going to have a five billion dollar deficit, but next
year we might have a five billion dollar surplus, you know,
just the shifting winds and tides of financial change and

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et cetera. No structural deficit means the state has committed
itself to spending levels on programs and initiatives that are
going to cost ten to twenty billion dollars more than
what we bring in in tax revenue. And a lot

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of that has to do with how Newsome. Under Newsome,
for what cause will We'll leave that up to you.
Under Newsome, a bunch of people have left California and
taken their tax revenue with them, including a lot of
very wealthy people who took billions and billions of dollars

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worth of capital gains tax revenue, income tax revenue. California
is I think losing or about to lose congressional seats.
I think lost a congressional seat in the last census.
So you have issue after issue after issue. All those

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things I mentioned, they're not really politically coded. Not building
enough new homes to meet up with demand, that's not
a Republican problem. That's not a Democrat problem. It's just
a problem structural deficits. That's not a Republican problem. It's
not a Democrat problem. Everyone acknowledges that's a problem. It's
a big problem for state governments, much bigger problem for

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state governments rather than federal governments. Because state governments can't
spend into the red like the Feds can. They can't
print money. They need people to loan them money. So
on issue after homelessness is not a Republican problem, Democrat,

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it's just a problem. Everyone acknowledges it's a problem. The
high speed rail not being built. Everyone acknowledges it's a problem.
Him having to roll back his own policy on illegal
immigration on excuse me, on medical eligibility for illegal immigrants.
That looks embarrassing no matter which way you do it.

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If you're a Republican, you're like, well, you shouldnt ever
done in the first place. If you're a Democrat, you say,
why did you do it? If you didn't have the funding,
Now you look like a moron. Wildfires. I didn't even
mention wildfires. We had horrible wildfires in twenty nineteen and
twenty twenty. He says he's going to do stuff to
fix it. We have the worst wildfire in California history

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in twenty twenty five, and the rebuilding process for the
homes that were destroyed in January twenty twenty five is
going at a snail's pace, And it's all the fault
of the government. The government's permitting et cetera, is moving
at a snail's pace, and Donald Trump is rightly able

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to point and make fun of and harshly criticize California
for that. So Newsom's got problems. He's got so many
problems that, frankly, I'm at the point of saying, I
don't see how it's possible he can run for president

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because he's gonna get roasted. Any other Democrat on the
debate stage can criticize him for all of those things
that I just mentioned to you, homelessness, wildfires, new housing construction,
the high speed rail not getting done, blah blah blah.
You know, the list goes on and on and on,

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him having to roll back structural deficits, him having to
roll back medical for illegal aliens. Other Democrats could criticize
him for all those things, and he doesn't have great
answers for him. It's all on him at this point.
He can't just push it off and blame someone else.

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Gas prices are about to explode in costs because he
passed under his watch. Now the reasons why maybe he
can more argue more politically. He passed a law last
year that resulted in a bunch of California's oil refineries

(10:03):
moving out, just closing down operations, which is going to
cut our supply of gasoline by about eighteen percent in California,
which is going to lead to prices skyrocketing. Now, partisan
me says Newsom's actions directly led to that result, and
he's one hundred percent to blame. Liberals might argue, oh,
it's the evil oil companies, Okay, whatever. Regardless, under Newsom's watch,

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gas prices are going to skyrocket to unheard of levels.
So in short, Newsom's future political prospects I think look
unbelievably bleak, and you need to actually be looking at
California politics. I think there's just this conventional wisdom that
everyone's believed for the last eight years that someday Avenusom

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is going to run for president. And now now we
have these riots in Los Angeles. I think the Democrats
could be willing to overlook all of that if Newsom

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is able to do something to stop Donald Trump or
to make him look silly. This is why you have
Newsom making this Syria that's a major address to the
California people, where he kind of pretends to cry, pretends
to show real human emotion past his lizard skin and

(11:31):
says that Donald Trump is assaulting the foundations of democracy.
Assaulting the foundations of democracy how by calling in the
National Guard to put down a protest. So Newsom filed
a request for a temporary restraining order yesterday in federal

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court to stop President Trump's activation of the National Guard.
Most of the time, the now National Guard gets activated
at the request of a governor, and the governor and
the president are on the same page with it. This
is a weird case that Newsom doesn't want the National
Guard activated, Trump does, and so Newsom has filed. Newsom

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filed this temporary restraining order request to stop it. By
the way, where did Newsom file this temporary restraining order request?
You might think that he would have filed it in
a federal court in Los Angeles, right, since the riots
are in Los Angeles. Incorrect, Amundo. Newsom filed this request

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for temporary restraining order. Filed this lawsuit in the Northern
District of California. Why, which is located in San Francisco,
to stop Trump from activating California National Guard to suppress
riots happening in Los Angeles. Why. Well, because every federal
judge in the Northern District of California is a Democrat

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president appointee. That's why it was ridiculous. Just bear blatant
forum shopping and the idea that you're going to tell
the president of the United States that he can't tell
his own military what to do is insane, and I

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hopefully judges will not want to wade into this, although frankly,
I think a lot of times conservative legal movement people
will say things like, well, the Thoreral judge would never
want to get involved in this, you know, some insane
hair brained left wing scheme, and then a Democrat appointed

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federal judge says, yes, I would very much like to
involve myself in this insane left wing hair brain scheme
because I'm a super left wing federal judge. I think
conservative legal movement people, federalist society types, that they still
all of them clerked for a federal judge, so they
all have this like all all of the sort of
leaders within their movement, they're all like superstar law students

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who all clerk for federal judges, So they have this
like outsized level of respect for federal judges, and it's
I think it's often not merited. Uh, and so they
will all you will often hear them express these opinions, Well,
judge would do something that ridiculous, and then the judge
one hundred percent does something that ridiculous. Why Well, because

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federal judges can't get fired other than impeachment and removal,
which has only ever happened like a handful of times
in all of American history to a federal judge. And
it's only like when a judge was like openly accepting bribes,
was convicted for accepting bribes, then he get he can
get impeached and removed. Short of that, federal judges are fireproof.

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They have lifetime appointments, that they're basically little gods in
their domain. They can do whatever they want and no
one's going to criticize them. So I was in spite
of certain folks saying, well, it would be astonishing to
think that federal judges would want to involve themselves in

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this and to interfere with the executive branch in this way. Really,
why do you think that would be astonishing? They're going
to deliberately forum shop to find a judge like that
in the Northern District of California, And what does it
matter to this guy if he sets off some national firestorm,
constitutional crisis. These judges hate Trump more than anybody does.

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They hate Trump more than your most liberal neighbor hates Trump.
Any federal judge nominated by Biden or Obama hates Donald Trump.
Probably a lot of them appointed by Trump himself or
George W. Boysch. They hate Donald Trump more than you do.
They hate Donald Trump more than you most liberal neighbor does.

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Some of these guys, I'm sure, are willing to do
anything humanly in their power to stop Donald Trump, including
maybe tell the President of the United States that he
can't activate a National Guard force to put down a riot,
a riot that the mayor of Los Angeles described as
quote out of control at various times. Karen Bass do
unintentionally giving Donald Trump a huge favor. But again, if

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Gavin Newsom can actually stop Donald Trump, it gives him
possibly the opportunity to win the Democrat nomination. That's why
he's so all over this. He realizes that maybe this
is his last shot. When we return, Moron, how could

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Newsom capitalize on this? Next? On The John Girardi Show,
Gavin Newsom, I think is viewing the riots in Lassitelis
and the possibility that he could stop Donald Trump as
his last shot, his last throw to possibly become the

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Democrat nominee for president. Up until this point, I think
his prospects looked horrible. I think his prospects are still horrible.
I think his track record as governor is terrible, and
that was the main reason why I thought he had
little to no shot at actually winning the presidency or
even getting the Democrat nomination. He has too many failures

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that are non partisan type failures that other Democrats could
point out and exploit. And I feel like this could
cover a multitude of sins. Why first, this is a

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high This is a nationally higher profile thing than almost
anything else Newsom has dealt with. Certainly the Los Angeles
wildfires were much higher profile, but Newsom could serve you know,
I'd laid out in the first segment the long list

(18:15):
of sort of non partisan failures that Newsom has to
deal with. Problems that are not It's not problems like, oh,
you did a thing that makes Republicans mad but Democrats happy.
It's just things that are failures. Not building enough new housing,
gas prices, going to explode, not addressing wildfires enough such
that we had the horrible wildfires in twenty twenty five,

(18:37):
high speed rail not getting any movement, and with no
plan for funding structural deficits in the California budget. Any
one of those things individually, I feel like Newsom could
have survived to be a credible challenger for the presidency.
The combination of just boom boom boom boom boom, issue
after issue after homelessness, being continuing to disaster in spite

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of twenty four billion dollars spent on god knows what
by the state. He's just got issue after issue after
issue like this, and it's such a long list. But
there's no issue, no issue Democrats care about more than

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internally among hardcore Democrat primary voters, there's no issue they
care about more than the sense that they can stop
Donald Trump. Threat to democracy registered trademark, and that's everything.
Newsome's like coloring this with that that Trump wanting to
send in National Guard and other military troops, Marines and

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National Guard troops to stop riots, that that is a
direct illegal assault on democracy. Somehow it's not okay the president.
There's plenty of legally embedded within the law, grounds precedent,

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et cetera. For the American president to send in federal
forces for stopping out of control riots when local authorities
can't handle it, out of control riots that are impacting things.
It's just not outside of his control. And it's not
a threat to democracy for the democratically elected president to
do that. But that's the theme that that's the theme

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Democrats have been running with this, this notion that Donald
Trump is a fascist, Donald Trump is a threat to
democratic institutions, Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. That
January sixth is the unforgivable event that they can that
they one percent blamed Trump for, and which I think

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causality is a bit tenuous there, but anyway, regardless, and
so that but that's the narrative. That's the narrative that
hardcore Democrat primary voters all believe. And Newsome sees this
and instead of taking the attitude of this is a
really bad riot and it needs to stop. Okay, let's

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work with the Trump administration. You know, let's you know,
if we need National Guard to come out there because
this is out of control, yes, let's do that and
coordinate that. That would be the responsible thing to do.
But Newsom doesn't want to do that. Why because these
protests initiated in response to ice doing raids. They hate

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Trump's immigration enforcement policies. So Newsom can't. He cannot bring
himself to be seen cooperatively with Donald acting cooperatively with
Donald Trump. He cannot do that politically. I think other
Democrats will look at him, and right he's not very

(22:12):
popular with Democrats right now. His latest budget revision that
he just proposed last month. Democrats and the legislature are
mad at him. Democrats in organized labor are mad at him.
That social liberals are mad at him. Everyone is mad
at Avenuism right now on the left. And this is
the one thing that can maybe bring them back onto
his side in the short term and maybe in the

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long term. In the long term, if he can get
a federal judge to tell Donald Trump, no, you can't
send in National Guard or military first. I think it
would be horrible for the country because I think it
would precipitate a real constitutional crisis about the roles of
judges and their ability to stop an American president from
doing something that's within his scope, like the military. Like

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that just seems to me insane. And the rule by
judges that it would precipitate blah blah blah. So I
think it would be terrible for the country. But from
Gavin Newsom's perspective, if he can walk into the Democrat
primary process and say California was doing nothing but saving

(23:17):
this country from Donald Trump. When Donald Trump was trying
to goose march his you know goons, from his trying
to put marines onto the streets of Los Angeles to
impose martial law, I stopped him. I was the guy
who stopped him when he was trying to do all
this insanity with ice. I was the one who stopped him.

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You know, forget if that narrative is true, Forget if
that narrative is honest, forget if that narrative is fair.
That I mean, such petty concerns have never stopped Gavin
Newsom before. That's the message he can market. Look, you
guys are talking to me about budget deficits and whether
you know we have horrible homeless and the high speed drafts.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Hey, the high speed rail is progressing, and hey, we've
made great progress on homelessness. And I was the one
who stopped Donald Trump. That's what Newsom is going to do.
That's why this is such a big deal for Newsom.
When we return.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Fresno County spent five thousand dollars on the Pride Parade
this past weekend on lube and condoms. Next, on the
John Girardi Show, I received a tip that I might
want to watch the Fresno County Board of Supervisors meeting
that happened yesterday. So I was at work and I

(24:34):
pulled up their YouTube feed and watched the live video.
Gary Brettefeld and Nathan Magzig both wound up spoking on this,
and I think it's important topics that touch on broader
problems I see, particularly with Fresno County governance problems that
I'm hopeful Gary Brettefeld's arrival onto the council, onto the

(24:56):
Board of Supervisors will address. Now, before you get actually,
I should just preface this because I think a lot
of people here County Board of Supervisors and they don't
actually know what it is. So we have city governments
in California, individual cities. Every city has its own city council.

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We have state government in California. So at the state
government level, you have the executive Gavin Newsom, you have
the legislature, members of the State Assembly, and the State Senate.
County government is sort of its own separate thing. This
is the certain kinds of regional issues handled by the

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county and the chief officers overseeing, supervising various services that
the county provides, various kinds of law enforcement services like
the Sheriff's department. The Sheriff's department also oversees the county jails.
It oversees certain kinds of public health functions, It oversees

(26:01):
a variety of different things. County government is governed by
a couple of different elected folks, the elected county sheriff
who oversees law enforcement issues, the elected county district attorney
who prosecutes crimes. And then you have the county Board
of Supervisors, the Board of Supervisors, which supervises county services.

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So that's what the Board of Supervisors is. The Board
of Supervisors has five members, Gary Brettefeld, Nathan Magzig, Buddy Mendez,
Brian Pacheco, and Luis Chavez. All Right, just I realize
I talk about the County Board of Supervisors. I know
what it is, but I'm sort of realizing I think

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probably a lot of people couldn't really define for you
what the County Board of Supervisors is. Think of the
County Board of Supervisors as basically it's the city council,
but instead of it for a city, it's for the
whole county. It's overseeing various kinds of issues at the
county level. All right, So at the County Board of
Supervisors meeting, Gary Brettefeld brought up, hey, this past weekend

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was the Fresno Gay Pride parade that happened in the
Tower district, and Brettefeld said, look, not my cup of tea,
but you know, First Amendment is operative, and they can march,
they can do what they want. He then brought up
he did not understand why Fresno County participated in this event.

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He said, Fresno County, and specifically the Department of Public
Health was present, that they were handing out condoms, rainbow
packaged condoms, and lubricant, lubricant, your tax dollars at work,
specifically about five thousand of your tax dollars at work.

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Brettefeld pointed out that for expenditures over a certain limit,
I believe it was over a thousand dollars, that basically
they should have kicked it up to some higher level
of authority before just doing that. Fresno County Department of
Public Health isn't shouldn't just be going off on their

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own freelancing it to support gay Pride March now. Brettefeld
also pointed out, Listen, the Board of Supervisors passed a
resolution a couple of years ago to fly no flags
at county buildings other than the American flag California flag,

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specifically so that President County wouldn't involve itself in controversies
discussions about gay pride stuff. Why was Presno County Department
of Public Health there without asking the Board of Supervisors.
Why were they spending a bunch of money on it
without running it by someone at the level of the
Board of supervisors. Why were they spending taxpayer money on lubricant? Now?

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Nathan Magzig and Gary Brettefeld both brought up the question
of you know, in general, what kinds of things, including
like holidays like Gay Pride month. So Brettefeld brought up
the fact that there are Presno County libraries that have
big gay pride displays up now for the whole month

(29:46):
of June, and Brettefeld said, well, why are they doing that.
I don't want county institutions to be celebrating Pride Month,
Like who decided that? Who decided that, Yes, this is
something that the county is going to be promoting. And
so between Brettefeld and Magzig they propose the idea, well, look,

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we should come up with like a list of like
you know, these are county institutions. They represent the elected,
you know, they represent the people of Fresno County, and
they are under the control of the County Board of Supervisors.
And here's likely a majority of the Board of Supervisors
that doesn't really want to be involved. You know, there

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are three Republicans on the County Board of Supervisors, Mendez, Magzig,
and Brettefeld. Pachaco's a very moderate Democrat. Luis Chavez is
probably the most liberal person on the county Board of Supervisors.
Was relatively moderate on the Presno City Council. You know,
I don't know, if you put it to a vote,

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do you want Fresno County institutions to celebrate Pride Month?
You might not get three votes. It's at least a
debatable question, but no debate at the level of individual libraries.
And I see this at are the clost branch of
the President County Library, which I go to all the time,
big old pride display there. Why And I think, wow,
this is a pretty interesting display for an institution under

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the control of a board of supervisors that has three
out of five of its members are Republicans. So Magzig
and Brettefeld propose we should have like, you know, kind
of a list or something of like what are like
causes or events that, yes, the county does want to
endorse or promote through county institutions. And the pushback from

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other members of the board was, well, it's gonna you
want a list of every single holiday or event that
they can and can't celebrate. That's going to be ridiculous,
all right, this and this touches on a topic that
has infuriated me about county government. Fresno County government is

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in many ways and I'm more and more convinced of
this seems like a microcosm of Washington, d C. It's
a much smaller scale, many fewer employees, think Presne County
employees something like three thousand people, I think they said
during the meeting. It's a much smaller scale. But what's

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the problem of quote the swamp. The swamp. Another brilliant
Trump is Trump, who has this uncanny ability to say
things that enter into our common discourse. The idea, the
problem of the swamp, as has been identified by Trump

(32:46):
and other Republicans, is that Republican presidents even may come
and go, but the permanent bureaucracy of Washington, d C.
The career hired employees of the federal government, are overwhelmingly
left wing, and when a president tries to fire them,

(33:10):
he is met with enormous pushback, even though the president's
trying to assert a very basic executive principle that executive
power rests in one person at the federal level, the president,
and that executive government employees are exercising the president's delegated authority.
If they are going to stemy the president's will, they

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need to go. It's fundamentally undemocratic to have a permanent
bureaucracy that is going to fight what the president wants
to do or hashtag resist it from within. That is
a genuine violation of democratic principles, a threat to democracy,

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if you will. I think it's really similar at the
level of presno county government. How many years and years
and years for how many years has Fresno County had
a Republican majority, a conservative majority on the Fresno County

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Board of Supervisors For forever, We've had a conservative majority
on the Board of Supervisors, Republican district attorneys, Republican sheriffs
for forever. At the level of Presnoe County government, Why
are the permanent employees of Fresno County so left wing?

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Why are county librarian employees so left wing? Why are
folks at the Department of Public Health so left wing?
And why does the Board of Supervisors let it happen?

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Why do they allow these extremely left wing people to
get hired. Why do they allow these left wing policies
like the needle exchange program that's still ongoing that I
know Brettefeld wants to eliminate, and I certainly hope he does.
Why did they allow the most liberal people possible to
oversee everything with Fresnoe County's response to COVID Why, I

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honestly kind of think fear that Fresnoe County officials were
more or less asleep at the wheel and that they
just sort of, well, you know, these people work here permanently,
and you know, we don't want to fire people, blah
blah blah when it's like, well, listen, like you know

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this response that oh, you're going to decide every single
holiday that the county can or can't support or endorse all.
That's going to take a lot of work. Yes, if
you you're not gonna have We believe in this country
that authority flows from the people. That's how the whole

(36:09):
system of our government works. Okay, I would say it
comes from God first, but at a practical level, political
authority in this country ultimately derives from the people. County government,
the authority of county government derives from the people. It's
the people who elect the county supervisors, who in turn
govern the county oversee supervise county services. So you're gonna

(36:37):
tell me that policy for like the kinds of things
promoted and endorsed within presment county libraries, that's gonna be
set not by the elected board of supervisors, responsive to
the people, accountable to the people. It's gonna be determined
by the unelected flunkies who work at the library. Be

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not democratically accountable librarians who work at the library. They're
the ones who are gonna set policy. No, No, it's
a fundamental misunderstanding philosophically of what we're doing here. Yes,
do the work to decide what kinds of things the
county will and won't celebrate within the context of libraries

(37:18):
and other county institutions. Presno, county shouldn't be celebrating Pride month.
The end when we return, a little great moment from
Pope Leo that warms my Italian heart. Next on The
John Girardi Show, one of the best scenes in The
Sopranos is this scene where Tony's at a restaurant and

(37:40):
he looks across. It's a nice Italian restaurant, and he
sees a guy wearing a hat and this is a
thing that ticks me off so much. And Tony goes
over to the guy and says, hey, take off your hat.
This is a nice restaurant. They don't serve hot dogs here.
Pope Leo just did this to a bishop who went
up to him at a papal audience, since he's like

(38:00):
gonna take a photo of him, and he's wearing this
like sloppy like kind of fisherman hat, and Leo says, hey,
take the hat off. We're going to take a picture here,
so leopop Leo is continuing to earn a high spot
in my good graces. That'll do it. John Girardi Show,
See you next time on Power Talk